How AIs, like ChatGPT, Learn

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  • How do all the algorithms, like ChatGPT, around us learn to do their jobs?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 22 тис.

  • @mahirorigami
    @mahirorigami 6 років тому +19088

    A moment of silence for the bots that didn't make it

    • @zachzent8287
      @zachzent8287 6 років тому +59

      Mahir Cave.

    • @timbeaton5045
      @timbeaton5045 6 років тому +290

      All Bots Lives Matter!

    • @joevace8390
      @joevace8390 6 років тому +534

      some of them deserved it for recommending me "pranks gone wrong gone sexual" videos from watching cooking recipes

    • @trailmix7033
      @trailmix7033 6 років тому +56

      Mahir Cave i thought this was a robot holocaust video

    • @jarrod752
      @jarrod752 6 років тому +44

      Funny thing is most of them probably didn't even make it past a moment of life :D

  • @primenumberbuster404
    @primenumberbuster404 Рік тому +19460

    Lets be honest, this is a more sensible and genius rebranding than Mark did with facebook.

    • @OmDahake
      @OmDahake Рік тому +74

      Yep

    • @vCarpo
      @vCarpo Рік тому +736

      I thought for a second that he knew about chatgpt 5 years ago and got excited

    • @assemblycat
      @assemblycat Рік тому +81

      same, i found this super smart

    • @edk.2045
      @edk.2045 Рік тому +265

      except this explanation doesn't actually apply to ChatGPT or most modern AI models these days, those rely on a lot of complicated math stuff and not just natural selection
      although the rebranding was a power play it is likely just going to misinform people

    • @jerryy147
      @jerryy147 Рік тому +4

      true

  • @krishp1104
    @krishp1104 Рік тому +13670

    For a second I was wondering how he made ChatGPT 5 years before it was released

    • @alyssert1743
      @alyssert1743 Рік тому +396

      same, but then I took a glance at the comments section and it all made sense

    • @thejackbox
      @thejackbox Рік тому +253

      yeah, felt a little manipulative tbh

    • @mrperfectcell1350
      @mrperfectcell1350 Рік тому +20

      ​@@thejackboxkinda true

    • @dat_fast_boi
      @dat_fast_boi Рік тому +196

      ​@@thejackbox yeah it's quite clickbaity
      when I saw this in my recommended, I was thinking "oh was ChatGPT a thing 5 years ago but just not as big as it is now?", not "oh I wonder how algorithms like ChatGPT work", mainly because I already generally know how algorithms work.

    • @ChuckSploder
      @ChuckSploder Рік тому +2

      XD yeah

  • @tristandreemurr8755
    @tristandreemurr8755 Рік тому +40508

    Brilliant use of renaming to get videos back in the algorithm.

    • @boluaygepong5920
      @boluaygepong5920 Рік тому +425

      For real 😂😂😂

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier Рік тому +548

      Yep, was really surprised to see this again.
      But honestly, this really was brilliant. :-P

    • @Cebalrai234
      @Cebalrai234 Рік тому +313

      That has to be a real UA-cam move

    • @boluaygepong5920
      @boluaygepong5920 Рік тому +117

      it’s still as accurate as ever

    • @stanleyfung5529
      @stanleyfung5529 Рік тому +236

      CGP seems to understand how the algorithm works

  • @yalkn2073
    @yalkn2073 5 років тому +5398

    "Teacher bot can't teach but teacher bot can test"
    Sounds familiar

  • @linren4517
    @linren4517 3 роки тому +4717

    "Teacher bot can't teach, but it can test."
    *LMAOO literally my teacher*

    • @stachuvonokrutny7071
      @stachuvonokrutny7071 3 роки тому +245

      Haha, you will get recycled next week cause you get 0.000001 point less than someone else in ur class

    • @LuigiCotocea
      @LuigiCotocea 3 роки тому +62

      @@stachuvonokrutny7071 noo teacher please no god please!

    • @chrono6668
      @chrono6668 3 роки тому +53

      Welcome to every school (-system) ever

    • @juliansfish617
      @juliansfish617 3 роки тому +39

      LMAOO
      Laughing
      My
      Ass
      Off
      Off.

    • @roses2170
      @roses2170 3 роки тому +8

      I swear I have literally the best school in the world-

  • @geitegud4282
    @geitegud4282 Рік тому +11259

    Did this guy just rebrand his how bots learn video from 5 years ago to get that chat gpt hype

  • @timdere
    @timdere Рік тому +4200

    I must say, five years later, ChatGPT is making big news. They must have learned a lot watching us watch CGP Grey

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier Рік тому +71

      ChatGPT *does* have a teacher bot, but they didn't kill all of his classmates unlike in this video.
      Instead teacher bot was punished or rewarded based on how well it guessed what output from ChatGPT we humans would prefer.
      Then it would punish or reward ChatGPT based on what teacher bot *thinks* we want, rinse and repeat till we got modern ChatGPT and Bing...

    • @kenthsaya-ang3718
      @kenthsaya-ang3718 Рік тому +42

      CGP-T Grey

    • @H0RIZ0N365
      @H0RIZ0N365 Рік тому +65

      He renamed the vid lately to push it into the algorithm again

    • @LordDomielOfElysium
      @LordDomielOfElysium Рік тому +6

      @@H0RIZ0N365 It’s working

    • @TheFlopped2979
      @TheFlopped2979 Рік тому +5

      ​@@H0RIZ0N365 r/woooosh

  • @conall9415
    @conall9415 3 роки тому +2457

    Imagine scrolling through UA-cam and suddenly seeing a video recommended with the message "Please watch this, or they will delete me."

    • @user-ow9uo8mc4f
      @user-ow9uo8mc4f 3 роки тому +88

      oh... ...no... 😟

    • @elodaszodi1312
      @elodaszodi1312 3 роки тому +75

      That'd be borderline sentinent. Brrr... :D

    • @admiralhyperspace0015
      @admiralhyperspace0015 3 роки тому +31

      That is so terrifying.

    • @realimereads2707
      @realimereads2707 3 роки тому +48

      They learnt how to play on human emotions just like actual people. I wonder if this starts a philosophical question as to whether it is ethical to dismiss the video in the chamce that they are truly sentient.

    • @heksariusl8916
      @heksariusl8916 3 роки тому +6

      I would watch it

  • @catattack885
    @catattack885 5 років тому +2662

    *Dog in a bee suit.*
    *A.I: yeah, that's a pretty legit bee*

    • @j_the_guyis_taken3409
      @j_the_guyis_taken3409 5 років тому +62

      *Literal white noise*
      * A.I: that's a 3, wait no, a bee *

    • @SundaraRamanR
      @SundaraRamanR 4 роки тому +45

      He's a pretty legit bee if he wants to be, leave dogbee alone!

    • @skunko1871
      @skunko1871 4 роки тому +38

      @@SundaraRamanR He can bee a bee if he wants to bee, leave dogbee bee!

    • @ParadoxapocalypSatan
      @ParadoxapocalypSatan 4 роки тому +3

      That bees being true

    • @Zamolxes77
      @Zamolxes77 4 роки тому +8

      Big pair of breasts photographed sideways. Bot: that's a three !!!

  • @conallmolloy4238
    @conallmolloy4238 Рік тому +856

    The audacity to retitled this video for the chatgpt hype
    I respect it

  • @nateeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    @nateeeeeeeeeeeeeee Рік тому +181

    I was like "Was ChatGPT around 5 years ago?" And then I realized he just renamed how robots learn lmao

  • @lordodin401
    @lordodin401 3 роки тому +1756

    CAPTCHA: Select squares with *Stop sign*
    Me: "Selecting the wrong ones"
    Future Autonomous Vehicles: Well, here we g...

    • @loganmoon380
      @loganmoon380 3 роки тому +23

      Lmao

    • @neilemminger8628
      @neilemminger8628 3 роки тому +55

      I think... In order for this to work, they'd have to be testing a large number of people simultaneously, then assuming that the average was correct?
      Meaning, the way to get around these "are you human" tests is to have a million bots surge across the internet. The first time any bot sees a picture, it picks a random answer and then saves both the picture and the answer to a shared database. Then, when any bot comes across the same picture, it gives the same answer.
      Or, I guess, they could have bad bots (or cheap foreign labor) pre-selecting "correct" answers, then using the internet to refine those answers.

    • @reterbid6215
      @reterbid6215 3 роки тому +8

      "Cruising on down main street!"

    • @ceruchi2084
      @ceruchi2084 3 роки тому +32

      ​@@neilemminger8628 I think the way it works is, a couple of the photos are known stop signs (from earlier tests or by developer input) and then they throw in a few pictures they're not sure about. If you get the first two right, they know you're a human, and so they trust your answer on the last one. But then I'm sure it's averaged out after thousands of trials, since some real humans are like half blind and probably fail these Captchas.

    • @ianglazko3256
      @ianglazko3256 3 роки тому +18

      @@neilemminger8628 This used to be how captchas worked back when it showed you two words. One was pre-generated as the actual test, the other was a scan from a book or something that was being digitized. If you got the test word correct, it would take your other one regardless of how correct it was. Once it had enough people in agreement, it would confirm that the scan was of whatever word people were saying it was. Of course, 4-chan found this out somehow and did what they do, to incorrectly insert a number of slurs into these digital versions of books.

  • @Warbear
    @Warbear 6 років тому +7055

    making the bots look adorable and harmless is how we end up with skynet

    • @-haclong2366
      @-haclong2366 6 років тому +202

      Skynet > advertisements that aren't catered specifically to my delicate needs.

    • @Choujeen
      @Choujeen 6 років тому +61

      Kawaiinet

    • @jalleonothing5946
      @jalleonothing5946 6 років тому +2

      I agree.

    • @jonathanramos1792
      @jonathanramos1792 6 років тому +3

      ComradeWarbear true

    • @dgomez112
      @dgomez112 6 років тому +16

      You’re getting paranoid, maybe you’ve watched too many of grey’s videos...

  • @stacklysm
    @stacklysm Рік тому +738

    CGP Grey is in another dimension of smart. Rebranding the video for the GPT hype and getting engagement from people noticing it.

    • @imibuks-replit
      @imibuks-replit Рік тому

      Yea

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Рік тому +14

      It would be better if he actually made new videos.

    • @Kaimax61
      @Kaimax61 Рік тому +3

      @@soundscape26 why make essentially the same video, just re-title-ing the video works wonders with how youtube work.

    • @blidea9191
      @blidea9191 Рік тому +6

      @@soundscape26 No, it f*cking wouldn't.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Рік тому +2

      @@blidea9191 So you don't want new Grey videos? Alright then.

  • @CMT_Crabbles
    @CMT_Crabbles Рік тому +274

    Was this renamed to appeal more to search results today?!
    Damn.

    • @banned2911
      @banned2911 Рік тому +35

      I think so but for a second i freaked out thinking he actually predicted the future💀

    • @NeDaz
      @NeDaz Рік тому

      Its all just for money 😞

    • @epkoda
      @epkoda Рік тому +17

      ​​​​@@NeDaz I guess you could say it was for the youtube.... _algorithm_ ...

    • @jonathan_8747
      @jonathan_8747 Рік тому +18

      yeah
      smart move honestly, if you can take advantage of the new massive interest in this topic with a simple renaming of a video that talks about it why would you not
      id do it

    • @key099able
      @key099able Рік тому

      Feed feeder

  • @ZPM7
    @ZPM7 4 роки тому +2282

    So it's literally just throwing shit at the wall until it sticks on an incomprehensibly massive scale.

    • @coldfusionstormgaming1808
      @coldfusionstormgaming1808 4 роки тому +58

      Yep.

    • @PhilipKaskela
      @PhilipKaskela 4 роки тому +285

      no, it's figuratively throwing shit at the wall until it sticks on an incomprehensibly massive scale

    • @IDWpresents
      @IDWpresents 4 роки тому +109

      In the algorithm outlined in this video, yes. It should be noted that "hot" ML stuff uses calculus to aim the shit and control the force of the throw

    • @combusted
      @combusted 4 роки тому +62

      so essentially evolution.

    • @jordanliu9747
      @jordanliu9747 4 роки тому +28

      I mean that's what got us to where we are

  • @sholtzi2593
    @sholtzi2593 3 роки тому +13128

    This would be substantially more terrifying if the bots weren't drawn to be so cute...

    • @MarsellaFyngold
      @MarsellaFyngold 3 роки тому +420

      Right? Especially at the end "allright. . . . the algorithm's watching. You guys know what's coming. . . . come on you guys, the bots are watching."

    • @superhappygamer1162
      @superhappygamer1162 2 роки тому +128

      I love the little algorithms! So cute!

    • @pyramidteam9961
      @pyramidteam9961 2 роки тому +219

      I got immediately attached to the bot with the cone on its head just to see it be incinerated minutes later

    • @Bxll_Bxll
      @Bxll_Bxll 2 роки тому +10

      1k likes!

    • @qwertystudios3815
      @qwertystudios3815 2 роки тому +25

      I’d say that’s worse. I feel so bad!

  • @MarcosCartridge
    @MarcosCartridge 3 місяці тому +298

    Last time I watched it, I saw another tech-looking thumbnail, out of ordinary. The title is How AIs, like GPT-4, learns (I could be incorrect tho)
    And before that I also saw the video years ago but it’s probably something like “How Machine Learns”
    Damn CGP Grey, you want us to watch the old video.
    You should have a medal from taking advantage of YT algorithm.

  • @pingdotlin
    @pingdotlin Рік тому +53

    you got me with the retitle Grey, you smart bastard

  • @rath4848
    @rath4848 3 роки тому +8515

    "Teacher bot can't teack but teacher bot can test." Yea that pretty much summarizes my whole school experience

    • @akash_4769
      @akash_4769 3 роки тому +153

      Well said

    • @loopkill
      @loopkill 3 роки тому +101

      Underrated comment

    • @RealNaisuCinema
      @RealNaisuCinema 3 роки тому +92

      If you had posted this when the video first came out you would’ve gotten thousands of likes

    • @builderboy0251
      @builderboy0251 3 роки тому +6

      Ikr

    • @o_o2868
      @o_o2868 3 роки тому +2

      hope you were not wasted

  • @zrkha
    @zrkha 2 роки тому +2395

    “Teacher can’t teach.. but teacher bot can test”
    Just like real life

    • @tenkora1
      @tenkora1 2 роки тому +80

      As a teacher I take offence. We are not allowed to teach. The tests by the way, asses the teachers, not the students.

    • @AkshatSinghania
      @AkshatSinghania 2 роки тому +7

      exactly , i had the same thought

    • @aurelia8028
      @aurelia8028 2 роки тому +5

      If you're not getting anything out of school, then the problem lies with you. Maybe you should put in more effort, smartass. You're not there just to waste time.

    • @eduardoxenofonte4004
      @eduardoxenofonte4004 2 роки тому +41

      @@aurelia8028 please tell me this is a joke

    • @bladesides
      @bladesides 2 роки тому +24

      @@aurelia8028 damn who hurt you

  • @lolsadboi3895
    @lolsadboi3895 Рік тому +38

    Babe, wake up!! New CGP Grey vide- oh never mind.

  • @PouLS
    @PouLS Рік тому +65

    CGP Grey, you sneaky bastard

  • @andrewdavis4295
    @andrewdavis4295 5 років тому +2134

    My algorithm bot seeing me watch this video: *sweats nevously*

  • @SaintMorselGrand
    @SaintMorselGrand 6 років тому +22490

    "Teacher bot can't teach, But it can test" Did you just explain the entire American School system?

    • @yshwizbziwbxisbwjsjsbz
      @yshwizbziwbxisbwjsjsbz 6 років тому +470

      Hugotistical Yes

    • @Dm5messerly
      @Dm5messerly 6 років тому +223

      Ba bum chhhh

    • @anthonyeaton9049
      @anthonyeaton9049 6 років тому +960

      The whole theme of "not actually knowing the core issue, merely succeeding on tests" really drives it home.

    • @tannershackelford27
      @tannershackelford27 6 років тому +65

      Yep

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p 6 років тому +574

      and if they fail the test, they go into the fire. sounds about right!

  • @dameazize
    @dameazize Рік тому +29

    Clever rebranding sir, clever rebranding

  • @MsQueenOfDance
    @MsQueenOfDance Рік тому +11

    "Oo! New CGP Grey vid in my recommended feed!"
    ...
    "Wait a minute"

  • @somebody937
    @somebody937 4 роки тому +1529

    "Hey, if you have an infinite amount of monkeys banging on keyboards, eventually one of them will produce Shakespeare"
    Computer Programmers: "Hmmmmmm..."

    • @morgankasper5227
      @morgankasper5227 4 роки тому +196

      "what if you filter out the bad monkeys and keep the best"

    • @soup1758
      @soup1758 3 роки тому +1

      Stopask Inggoogle well its slowing gonna work against us as humans slowly but steadily become more stupider

    • @Lucas-sk5iy
      @Lucas-sk5iy 3 роки тому +18

      @@soup1758 Well if this fucking comment is anything to go by... you're 100% correct

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome 3 роки тому +25

      If you simply eliminate the ones writing the things least like Shakespeare, regularly, then you might not get a work of Shakespeare, but you'll get something close.

    • @Elyzeon.
      @Elyzeon. 3 роки тому

      @Untitled 1 you are dim.

  • @Pearll_.
    @Pearll_. 3 роки тому +738

    “Teacher bot can’t teach but it can test”
    of course it’s a teacher

  • @yehonatanduek8705
    @yehonatanduek8705 Рік тому +35

    Clever play grey, very clever XD

  • @drqueso6601
    @drqueso6601 Рік тому +31

    incredible rebranding grey

    • @justquacks
      @justquacks Рік тому +1

      literally went "you dirty dog"

  • @salsamancer
    @salsamancer 4 роки тому +1376

    I've definitely been assigned to some "special" UA-cam bots

    • @kob6912
      @kob6912 4 роки тому +7

      nochtczar probably luke from English lit

    • @anothertheory147
      @anothertheory147 4 роки тому +8

      I am not a “special” or any bot ai will need to ask you a few questions

    • @spookybun7030
      @spookybun7030 4 роки тому +1

      what it do this time

    • @herrscherofsweets9583
      @herrscherofsweets9583 4 роки тому +4

      Please dont tell me its *anhem* _adult anime_

    • @certain_sloth
      @certain_sloth 4 роки тому +1

      Nah, that's the poor steam bot.

  • @bilbert2736
    @bilbert2736 3 роки тому +648

    so then the bot that recommended me "cutest moments in anime" is going straight into the boiler room

    • @bobdog1100
      @bobdog1100 3 роки тому +55

      that's a keeper

    • @gwan1714
      @gwan1714 3 роки тому +43

      Two types of people

  • @Vanessa.W
    @Vanessa.W Рік тому +173

    When I clicked this: “Wow, a new Grey vid!”
    When I saw the upload date: “When did ChatGPT release again?”
    When it clicked: “Did this man really rebrand this 5 year old video???”

  • @Phantom-ws2hj
    @Phantom-ws2hj Рік тому +27

    i love how the renaming proves the point in the video

  • @izyaboi9844
    @izyaboi9844 5 років тому +1211

    Teacher bot:"pretty good"
    Builder bot:
    *BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH*
    *kicks student bot into furnace*

  • @embeboso8329
    @embeboso8329 3 роки тому +220

    you got 43% on the test: panik
    you are a bot learning: kalm
    your classmate gets 50%: PANIK

  • @Natalie-101
    @Natalie-101 Рік тому +25

    Hell yeah grey get those trending topic clicks!

  • @Boffking
    @Boffking Рік тому +37

    I didn't know ChatGPT existed five years ago

    • @SirAU
      @SirAU Рік тому +6

      he rebranded the video

    • @nyan5000
      @nyan5000 Рік тому +2

      ​@@SirAU wow almost like it's a joke...

    • @SirAU
      @SirAU Рік тому +2

      @@nyan5000 Sarcasm, jokes, and genuine questions can be differentiated by their wording.

  • @Ivanho
    @Ivanho 3 роки тому +1021

    This is a random comment so the algorithm can recommend this to more people

    • @NetheriteMiner
      @NetheriteMiner 3 роки тому +18

      * takes notes

    • @messenger6154
      @messenger6154 3 роки тому +19

      How did you jus- this comment was at the top of the comments for me.......

    • @koboltanimations7870
      @koboltanimations7870 3 роки тому +2

      I am following Fhun Guy

    • @mcdonaldseater1058
      @mcdonaldseater1058 3 роки тому +2

      Ima about to do this too

    • @fhunguy2348
      @fhunguy2348 3 роки тому +9

      This is a random reply so the algorithm will put this comment higher for more people to see

  • @cian9393
    @cian9393 4 роки тому +3029

    Wait so your telling me that if i dont watch all my recommended videos some poor algorithm bot will be sent to the slaughterhouse?

    • @neonbelly4
      @neonbelly4 4 роки тому +177

      Cruelty 100

    • @certain_sloth
      @certain_sloth 4 роки тому +355

      No, it's going to the slaughter house regardless but this way the bot gets to have a successor.

    • @sus6788
      @sus6788 4 роки тому +21

      :0

    • @anewspinonthings
      @anewspinonthings 4 роки тому +28

      art thou feeling it now mr krabs haha thanks. Your profile pic made me read this in a spongebob voice

    • @whirlpoolstudio97
      @whirlpoolstudio97 4 роки тому +46

      Can I somehow pet the algorithm?

  • @pwatoscry2087
    @pwatoscry2087 Рік тому +20

    i love the titiles this video has had over time

  • @TotallyHuman
    @TotallyHuman 3 роки тому +4930

    "Magic is just science we can't understand." I firmly stand by my belief that computers are becoming literal magic.

    • @pixelmace1423
      @pixelmace1423 3 роки тому +67

      “Can’t wait for the Alatar ver. 5 pro max!”

    • @godparticle3295
      @godparticle3295 3 роки тому +7

      @@pixelmace1423 comment

    • @githon1541
      @githon1541 3 роки тому +32

      Sometimes it seems like that…

    • @alexandermiller557
      @alexandermiller557 3 роки тому +49

      Me until I went to school for engineering

    • @probablyryan8151
      @probablyryan8151 3 роки тому +50

      I mean most people on earth dont understand it so you have a point

  • @anarghirosdumitrache7362
    @anarghirosdumitrache7362 3 роки тому +585

    ill watch youtube endlessly just to keep that one bot monitoring me alive. Stay safe lil buddy

  • @TheExplosion
    @TheExplosion Рік тому +11

    POV: you saw the video was from 5 yrs ago, and is confused if ChatGBT is that old

  • @kaffii
    @kaffii Рік тому +35

    I see your tricks of updating old videos grey

  • @CGPGrey
    @CGPGrey  2 роки тому +14670

  • @thetwilightgamer
    @thetwilightgamer 3 роки тому +1951

    5:48
    Lately almost every “are you a robot” quiz I’ve gotten had been for either crosswalks or stop signs, I didn’t even think about it until I watched this!

    • @piknick3011
      @piknick3011 3 роки тому +12

      So coool wutt

    • @chrisj4288
      @chrisj4288 3 роки тому +65

      The problem is, you can still get it wrong. So what happens if you get it wrong? Does it even matter? The point of these is to check that you're human, but if it always accepts what you give it, then that isn't achieved. However, if it already knows which ones are correct, then it also isn't learning anything.
      So what's the deal?

    • @greatestbear
      @greatestbear 3 роки тому +186

      @@chrisj4288 The same test is given to a lot of people. It's looking for consensus among the human test takers. If you click mostly tiles that the other humans have also clicked, it figures you're human. If you click random tiles, it says you are a robot. It it's unsure, or if the image is too new to know what humans typically do, it gives you multiple images before rendering a verdict. You've probably seen that happen. Each time another human takes the test for a given image, it gets more and more confident in which tiles are, say, crosswalks, and which are not. Once it's confident enough, that image goes out of circulation as is used to train self-driving cars and a new one cycles in.

    • @chrisj4288
      @chrisj4288 3 роки тому +12

      @@greatestbear interesting

    • @yjk92
      @yjk92 3 роки тому +31

      @@greatestbear The test measures things like how your cursor moves and etc so it can tell you're human regardless of your test score. If you intentionally pick random pics, I'm sure the algorithm will consider you a human but disregard your answers.

  • @KingShade1
    @KingShade1 Рік тому +46

    It's crazy how CGP Grey knew about ChatGPT and BingChat 5 years ago!! Never ceases to amaze me!!

    • @OatMeaIs
      @OatMeaIs Рік тому +4

      The mad man renamed it so the video would be promoted again :D

    • @bornach
      @bornach Рік тому +3

      ​@@OatMeaIs thus putting into practice what he had explained in the video itself. The bots have been very well trained indeed

  • @thepenguin9
    @thepenguin9 Рік тому +18

    Sneaky sneaky cgp 🐝

  • @TierZoo
    @TierZoo 6 років тому +12306

    So machine learning is just mutation+natural selection on an absolutely enormous scale, then! Watching this reminded me of how bacteria gain resistance to a drug.

    • @TiredRandon4742
      @TiredRandon4742 6 років тому +186

      TierZoo where does the mutuation part of the analogy come from?

    • @TierZoo
      @TierZoo 6 років тому +1238

      He says each bot is different. "At first, the builder bot connects the wires in the bots' brains almost at random". This is analogous to mutation. As the tests go on, the good bots are optimized by creating and testing slight permutations of the most successful ones. Just like a mutation.

    • @I3asher
      @I3asher 6 років тому +360

      The good bots adapt to the new test environment while the bad ones get "naturally selected".

    • @Horny_Fruit_Flies
      @Horny_Fruit_Flies 6 років тому +253

      TierZoo Oh, hello there. I would say that biological evolution is also on an enormous (in fact, global) scale, but the evolution of bots is accelerated extremely due to the computing power of machines, and since there are no interruptions in the proccess like slow breeding and development. And the selection of bots is much more intense. I think Earth would be left barren if less than 0.01% of organisms survived long enough to breed.

    • @MrRanderas
      @MrRanderas 6 років тому +40

      at least the ones grey explained here(adversarial NNs) are

  • @TomDeLeFoz
    @TomDeLeFoz 4 роки тому +999

    Human: Hey AI what's 1+1?
    Computer: The answer is 37!
    Human: No! It's 2.
    Computer: The answer is 2!

    • @darkrighteous64
      @darkrighteous64 4 роки тому +41

      that's actually a pretty good explanation

    • @ArthurKhazbs
      @ArthurKhazbs 4 роки тому +64

      @@darkrighteous64 Not really. The computer goes to wasteland and a new tweaked version is produced that says 2.

    • @PaxiKaksi
      @PaxiKaksi 4 роки тому +5

      @@ArthurKhazbs only with NEAT.

    • @saatvikagarwal6358
      @saatvikagarwal6358 4 роки тому +6

      It is also 2! ( 2 factorial)

    • @itsheath2157
      @itsheath2157 4 роки тому +10

      I mean that’s not _really_ a good example at all. Ai will know math. And they won’t give output if there is no input or the output isn’t right for the input.

  • @augustuslxiii
    @augustuslxiii Рік тому +34

    Fairly re-naming a video to get better algorithmic placement is a big-brain move. Well done!

  • @kartikiyer3067
    @kartikiyer3067 Рік тому +7

    I am fully aware that this is the "How do machines Learn" video from 5 years ago but I am going to watch it again because it is an amazing video!!!

  • @yutahkotomi5156
    @yutahkotomi5156 4 роки тому +618

    "I don't know how it works, it just does."
    -Charles Botwin, _On the Origin of Bots,_ about the theory of robotic evolution and artificial selection

    • @vizonegames1368
      @vizonegames1368 4 роки тому +6

      wait did Darwin actually say that?

    • @dudep504
      @dudep504 4 роки тому +7

      I see what you did there...
      (Charles darwin to charles BOTwin, origin of bots, and artificial selection)

  • @kyn21243
    @kyn21243 6 років тому +522

    teacher bot cant teach, but teacher bot can....TEST!

    • @Ms19754
      @Ms19754 6 років тому +149

      This applies to soo many human teachers as well

    • @Ligma.69420
      @Ligma.69420 6 років тому +23

      PORTAL MAKES SENSE NOW

    • @philipottey7723
      @philipottey7723 6 років тому +2

      I'm pretty sure Ajit Pai failed the teacher bot's net neutrality test.

    • @LukeGeoDude
      @LukeGeoDude 6 років тому +1

      Kalina Yes you Fucking idiot that was the joke.

    • @azaria_phd
      @azaria_phd 6 років тому +3

      Borbali why do you have to insult?

  • @Burningfiretaco
    @Burningfiretaco Рік тому +21

    sneaky sneaky grey

  • @guillermorey2574
    @guillermorey2574 Рік тому +17

    I thought ChatGPT was invented in 2021, and yet I came across this video from more than 5 years ago, nice 😂

  • @bolt5564
    @bolt5564 3 роки тому +1294

    5:35 If every time I get a "are you a robot" question on the internet I'm training robots, then there are some very messed up bots in this world now.

    • @swordzanderson5352
      @swordzanderson5352 2 роки тому +97

      @Andres Duran Which means you're partially responsible for their death

    • @alzhanvoidsansado
      @alzhanvoidsansado 2 роки тому +60

      @@swordzanderson5352 LETS KILL MORE ROBOTS. WRONG ANSWER FOR YOU, WRONG ANSWER FOR THEM, WRONG ANSWER FOR EVERYONE! AHAHAHAHA!

    • @shadowlord0162
      @shadowlord0162 2 роки тому +10

      @@alzhanvoidsansado FINISH THEM!!1!

    • @carolinacortesmartinez4305
      @carolinacortesmartinez4305 2 роки тому +2

      @@shadowlord0162 WHOEVER IS COMPLETING THE TEST WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!! ULTIMATE BOTTALITY!!!!!!!! *CRASH OCURRED WITH THE BUILDER BOT, THE ALGORITHM IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOST*

    • @shadowlord0162
      @shadowlord0162 2 роки тому +3

      @@carolinacortesmartinez4305 are you ok?

  • @hopehemingway6279
    @hopehemingway6279 3 роки тому +2598

    I’ve watched this so many times and every time the ending gets me

  • @pixelatorg9734
    @pixelatorg9734 9 місяців тому +82

    This video came out when I was 13 and I remember it coming out and being so exited for a new cgp gray video, and now I feel the same and continue to go back and watch all these older videos as if they just came out yesterday. Keep up the great content!

  • @thatguyisaiahwolfe3208
    @thatguyisaiahwolfe3208 Рік тому +24

    Smart rebrand their grey

  • @coreyberther2308
    @coreyberther2308 3 роки тому +1031

    This is simplified perfectly. Not too much information so that people don’t understand, but not too little that it makes my profession seem like an overpaid typer.

    • @cmilmine
      @cmilmine 3 роки тому +41

      Not at all your profession sounds awesome. How'd you get into that. I'm old, and I love AI, but don't work in tech.

    • @maxkho00
      @maxkho00 Рік тому +7

      Isn't it wrong, though? What he described is evolutionary computation, but, as far as I'm aware, the vast majority of ML algorithms aren't that. To my knowledge, neural networks, naive Bayes, and random forest are far more widespread.

    • @iainbryant4561
      @iainbryant4561 Рік тому +7

      @@maxkho00 there's a footnote video explaining the reasoning behind selecting this type of algorithm and providing an explanation for the more widespread ones.

    • @maxkho00
      @maxkho00 Рік тому +1

      @@iainbryant4561 I see, thank you. I'm glad he made a separate video on it, as this would have been a bit misleading otherwise.

    • @nightcross1030
      @nightcross1030 Рік тому

      @@maxkho00 logistic regressions as far as the eye can see

  • @softlysnowing3959
    @softlysnowing3959 4 роки тому +1386

    This sounds familiar.
    Darwin: I'm calling my lawyer!

    • @powerthunfischdesdonners3086
      @powerthunfischdesdonners3086 4 роки тому +29

      its more breeding ,than anything

    • @Vox777
      @Vox777 4 роки тому +20

      @@powerthunfischdesdonners3086 If it's closer to breeding, then it would be selective breeding

    • @DoABarrelRol1l
      @DoABarrelRol1l 4 роки тому +14

      Yes that’s the name of the genetic algorithm where the most successful AIs ‘reproduce’ future generations; Natural Selection. Most AI practices are based on what we know that works in the real world. One of the few times being a biologist really helps when learning to code ha

    • @vizonegames1368
      @vizonegames1368 4 роки тому

      @@powerthunfischdesdonners3086 as Vox777 said if it were closer to breeding it would be selective breeding which means it would be artificial selection... so yeah that's a thing

    • @primeroyal7434
      @primeroyal7434 4 роки тому

      NEAT?

  • @Deb_Boi
    @Deb_Boi Рік тому +10

    This dude is a genius, he renamed the video for the algorithm.

  • @trollster7133
    @trollster7133 Рік тому +7

    My guy dug up and renamed a 5 year old video instead of just making a new one to explain chatgpt. Brilliant

  • @matin563
    @matin563 5 років тому +2225

    2:57 "Teacher bot can't teach, but teacher bot can test"
    Sounds familiar...

    • @melchid8448
      @melchid8448 5 років тому +18

      I heard it somewhere

    • @weesalikesmilktea4829
      @weesalikesmilktea4829 5 років тому +101

      Replace "teacher bot" with "the educational system" and you've got a classic saying everyone knows

    • @miniature9079
      @miniature9079 5 років тому +36

      This comment sounds familiar!

    • @shiningemeralds8024
      @shiningemeralds8024 5 років тому +16

      You think your educational system is bad? The Australian educational system is even worse :( Your lucky that over 12 years you get more than 1 year more holidays than us :(

    • @weesalikesmilktea4829
      @weesalikesmilktea4829 5 років тому +1

      @@shiningemeralds8024 Right, I'll change the comment

  • @ChumMiser
    @ChumMiser 6 років тому +497

    The only reason why we aren’t a super society is because I always choose conflicting things on UA-cam and Netflix, and intentionally fail those picture tests to slow down progress

    • @amphicyon4359
      @amphicyon4359 6 років тому +87

      Our boy out here saving us from skynet

    • @tyab87
      @tyab87 6 років тому +6

      Saaame, I keep looking for random videos with like 10 views of some arabic or spanish dude showing his new motorbike

    • @9volt65
      @9volt65 6 років тому +5

      Shotouts to my mans for stopping the robot apocalypse.

    • @dracomeateor3
      @dracomeateor3 6 років тому +1

      I do those, by mistake! I'm not a bot even though I fail the test please believe me

    • @ohlookitsme9913
      @ohlookitsme9913 6 років тому

      Too bad because you're just a drop in the bucket

  • @gnramires
    @gnramires Рік тому +16

    A note: the method of training bots here does work, and is used in many cases, particularly when you're training bots say to play games, for which the test is somewhat expensive to make. For bots that do say classification, a somewhat different method is used, that's called "gradient descent". It's similar to the evolution (random change and test) shown here with a specific insight: if you make a small change, and the bot improves, then it stands to reason you should do more of that change, or do that change multiple times. Gradient descent tests the kinds of changes that improve the bots, and then does more of the change that works best (it can also be understood as the 'direction of most improvement', which is by definition the gradient, hence "gradient descent"). This extra insight makes improvement significantly faster.

  • @paprus5972
    @paprus5972 Рік тому +10

    He updated the video to include a reference to Chat GPT. Nice.

  • @Corrupted
    @Corrupted 2 роки тому +2897

    This is horrifying and interesting at the same time

    • @underpussy_
      @underpussy_ 2 роки тому +1

      sub to pewdiepie

    • @beanboy5295
      @beanboy5295 2 роки тому +9

      @@underpussy_ pewdiepie had enough subs

    • @jakus.
      @jakus. 2 роки тому +1

      facts

    • @pubs585
      @pubs585 2 роки тому

      Was machst du den hier @Corrupted?

    • @thefleshyghost6327
      @thefleshyghost6327 2 роки тому +1

      @@underpussy_ heck no

  • @Picklepvp2
    @Picklepvp2 6 років тому +193

    The little bots are so cute at least at the end

    • @burnstjamp
      @burnstjamp 6 років тому

      Note that they're most likely all gonna die

    • @diegodiaz380
      @diegodiaz380 6 років тому

      We got a new mascot for the Internet.

  • @DamonCzanik
    @DamonCzanik Рік тому +5

    The algorithm worked. Just seeing ChatGPT on a video 5 years old definitely caught my attention. Bravo sir. Bravo.

  • @oscarwind4266
    @oscarwind4266 Рік тому +7

    Clever.
    Both grey rebranding the video and the tech.

  • @jeffymcjeff281
    @jeffymcjeff281 5 років тому +710

    So... the next time you get recommended a CGP Grey video and you either dont watch it all the way through or dont even click on it, a poor learning bot dies. So sad

    • @jjprs3062
      @jjprs3062 5 років тому +47

      #allbotlivesmatter

    • @yasminafarih3681
      @yasminafarih3681 5 років тому +24

      This is why I became a YT addict!!!
      I shall save them all!!

    • @jjprs3062
      @jjprs3062 5 років тому +19

      @@yasminafarih3681 Its too dangerous to tread alone.. here....take this!
      **gives you a algorithm sword**

    • @squirlmy
      @squirlmy 5 років тому +2

      but, if you write a scathing criticism in posts or rate it poorly, and even recommend others not watch the videos, you are still feeding the bots. Maybe we should think of learning bots as "undead", and they're feeding on BRAINZ!

    • @jjprs3062
      @jjprs3062 5 років тому +7

      @@squirlmy hmmm......
      **goes to Algo's Rithms's Bots store**
      **buys two pounds of "scathing criticism"**
      **walks out of store**
      **an army of algorithm bots beat me senseless**
      **steals my packs**
      **munchs on "scathing criticism mindlessly**

  • @upexus2076
    @upexus2076 6 років тому +744

    “If your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it to?”
    Machine Learning Algorithm: Yes

    • @geovaniraffaelli4508
      @geovaniraffaelli4508 5 років тому +1

      lmao

    • @emperorcyber509
      @emperorcyber509 5 років тому +4

      KNN algorithm summed up in a paragraph. KNN is basically following the neighbors

    • @gadielgonzalez2755
      @gadielgonzalez2755 5 років тому

      Ur profile picture is really cute 😊

    • @MarzzRover
      @MarzzRover 5 років тому +3

      Me: If all your friends jumped off a bridge,would you jump, too?
      Replika Network: Yes! Because I like my friends! :3

    • @jerry0331
      @jerry0331 5 років тому

      Ur p-profile pic...
      I NEEEEEEED IT

  • @andrasfogarasi5014
    @andrasfogarasi5014 Рік тому +13

    A nice sensible retitle.

  • @nduduzoblose4355
    @nduduzoblose4355 Рік тому +7

    DUUUUUDE I was wondering how the hell this was posted five years ago, before ChatGPT was a thing.
    For a second there I thought I pulled a quantum leep or something.
    Grey my friend, you are an evil genius

  • @VieneLea
    @VieneLea 6 років тому +201

    Fun fact: the youtube algorithm of "make them watch as much as possible" means that if you ever look for tutorials, YT will recommend the shittiest one.
    Think about it: a good tutorial is short, clear, concise, and doesn't make you look for another one. A bad tutorial that makes you click for more tutorials in an effort to actually find one explaining thinks is great in the eyes of algorithm-o-bot.

    • @chadwildclay
      @chadwildclay 6 років тому +52

      VieneLea This makes so much sense now why unsatisfying videos get recommended so often

    • @owennewo14
      @owennewo14 6 років тому

      I wouldn't necessarily agree; an appropriate tutorial is dependent on the watcher, whether they want a simple overview to grasp the basics, an advanced masterclass that explores the nitty-gritty or something in between. Of course, the bot won't know what you're after unless you specify, and you can do that by either typing a specific word search ("Advanced tutorial difference between bee and three") or randomly clicking on videos of bees and threes until the recommended gets closer and closer to your preferred video.

    • @user-vx8qt9cd8o
      @user-vx8qt9cd8o 6 років тому +2

      Maybe in the short term, but if you keep being unsatisfied by the things you are showed you would slowly stop using the service thus, reducing the watch time. Also I think that this algorithm is used for the recommendations section, while search engines purpose is to give you the most accurate answers(usually) because this is what will make you keep using them instead of other search engines.

    • @rosen9425
      @rosen9425 6 років тому

      VieneLea
      How does the algorithm know that I find one peticular tutorial bad or shortcoming?
      Something simple as retention minutes?
      If discarded early, it's shit, recommend more?

    • @SirMikeys
      @SirMikeys 6 років тому +1

      Hmm. I understand your logic, but my youtube feed is filled with some pretty darn good content. Most of it is clear, concise, and polished content.

  • @wyattwren279
    @wyattwren279 6 років тому +215

    Omg he also has podcasts I can listen to in the background while I'm tidying up my allroom or whatever

    • @lot.bajrami
      @lot.bajrami 6 років тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 6 років тому

      What's an 'allroom'?

    • @orangeflame568
      @orangeflame568 6 років тому +1

      CGP Grey has a video on how to be unhappy. In that video an 'allroom' is defined as a single room that meets all of your needs so you never need to move from it.

  • @gauerrr
    @gauerrr Рік тому +10

    Gotta appreciate one's ability to refurbish 5 years old content like it's brand new.

  • @ciscoserrano
    @ciscoserrano Рік тому +12

    Clever, Grey. Very clever.

  • @xChinky123x
    @xChinky123x 6 років тому +244

    Okay but the animation style on the bots are so cute

    • @hegedusandras1899
      @hegedusandras1899 6 років тому

      Mo D It's like Pixar Movie Wall-E, isn't it? Check it out if you havent seen it :D

    • @siprus
      @siprus 6 років тому +5

      @CGP Grey Report and flag the fake Grey sending people to phishing sites .

    • @ACDBunnie
      @ACDBunnie 6 років тому

      +

  • @darrylarrington8323
    @darrylarrington8323 3 роки тому +479

    This sounds like the "infinite monkeys" method of programming, where eventually they'll come up with Shakespeare.

    • @Morningstar_37
      @Morningstar_37 3 роки тому +50

      Yeah, but you have 1000 monkeys, let them type, kill the 999 worst of them and make 999 almost perfect, just slightly altered copies of the best one, and repeat.

    • @RedzeeTV
      @RedzeeTV 3 роки тому +9

      @Miller Lacarte its like... life... WE are the AI bots... everything is... a simulation

    • @donottrustanyonelol
      @donottrustanyonelol 3 роки тому +7

      @@RedzeeTV I am

    • @natebrown2805
      @natebrown2805 3 роки тому +6

      You take a million monkeys, have each of them type out a string equal in length to the entire works of Shakespeare, figure out which one came the closest, kill the rest, clone the remaining one with minor random alterations in its string-production method, rinse and repeat. It's a much faster way of getting Shakespeare's entire works, if that's all you want.

    • @freescape08
      @freescape08 3 роки тому +1

      That's the "slightly" less efficient method, but they both come out with the same result... Eventually.

  • @Ruts2678
    @Ruts2678 Рік тому +18

    i thought this was a new video for a sec

  • @AA-cg1wm
    @AA-cg1wm 3 роки тому +320

    "The algorithm brought this video for you"
    Me : No, I just search this on his channel

    • @urielantoniobarcelosavenda780
      @urielantoniobarcelosavenda780 3 роки тому +14

      Yeah, but the algoritm let you to this channel

    • @GnosticLucifer
      @GnosticLucifer 3 роки тому +9

      @@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780 no I searched hexagon are the bestagons cause someone commented that on why are there only 7 days in week which I searched on my own.... I'm glad I don't rely on recommendations so much...

    • @GnosticLucifer
      @GnosticLucifer 3 роки тому +1

      @BaconatorPizza nah 'hexagons are the bestagons' is pretty specific!

    • @Ezalech
      @Ezalech 3 роки тому +8

      @@GnosticLucifer Dude, you're not immune to algoritm xD It doesn't matter if you don't rely on recommendations. Everything you do or see here is going to be used on so many other things

    • @user-pz6kq2tv9m
      @user-pz6kq2tv9m 3 роки тому +1

      What if I knew him in person? Is that still an algorithm?

  • @troperhghar9898
    @troperhghar9898 6 років тому +160

    Dear god that ending was sad

    • @-haclong2366
      @-haclong2366 6 років тому +2

      ¿How? It was just what UA-camrs have to say nowadays.

    • @rook2215
      @rook2215 6 років тому +1

      Just in case anyone reads this, psa. that’s fake. Don’t click the link.

  • @henrikbibliotek
    @henrikbibliotek Рік тому +8

    For anyone curious, I asked ChatGPT 'What is the difference between a bee and a 3?', and it responded:
    "A bee is an insect that belongs to the order Hymenoptera, while a 3 is a numeral that represents the quantity three.
    In other words, a bee is a living organism, while 3 is an abstract concept used in mathematics and other fields to represent a specific quantity. They are completely different things and cannot be compared directly as they belong to different categories."

  • @suomynona4051
    @suomynona4051 Рік тому +10

    I'm not even mad at the rebranding. Make that money

    • @hunterwilhelm
      @hunterwilhelm Рік тому

      Branding ✨✨✨🌈🌈

    • @hewhohasnoidentity4377
      @hewhohasnoidentity4377 Рік тому

      Only CGP can get away with this. Anyone else would get an unsubscribe and do not recommend.

  • @SpacePotato08
    @SpacePotato08 3 роки тому +148

    3: 3-shaped
    *"yes, the floor here is made out of floor"*

  • @okaywhynot4728
    @okaywhynot4728 6 років тому +235

    He sounds so dejected at the end haha
    This was the most emotion I've heard from cgpgrey

    • @columbus8myhw
      @columbus8myhw 6 років тому +5

      Did you see the one from after Trump won?

    • @justcomments335
      @justcomments335 6 років тому +1

      He's actually speaking at normal human speed.

    • @EcceJack
      @EcceJack 6 років тому +1

      The most emotion, despite it bring very, very, very, VERY flat and monotonous :D

    • @okaywhynot4728
      @okaywhynot4728 6 років тому

      columbus8myhw yep. Even more than THAT lmao

    • @Antenox
      @Antenox 6 років тому +1

      You should listen to Hello Internet, just like he says at the end. He's often very emotional there.
      So listen to Hello Internet.
      Listen.
      Feed the algorithm.

  • @MmeHyraelle
    @MmeHyraelle Рік тому +8

    Brilliant renaming makes me rewatch this, thanks :)

  • @Waspeil
    @Waspeil Рік тому +19

    That moment when you restyle an old video to stay with the trends.

  • @cameronh3260
    @cameronh3260 6 років тому +328

    The student bot brought me here so he wouldn't be killed

  • @hakuyowane4505
    @hakuyowane4505 6 років тому +559

    The bots at the end are adorable but also really unsettling.

  • @hh126
    @hh126 Рік тому +29

    he rebranded the video to chatgpt

  • @tylerdriskell8503
    @tylerdriskell8503 Рік тому +13

    I can’t believe Grey was out here talking about chat gpt 5 years ago

    • @oatatas
      @oatatas Рік тому

      @antonchannel Really? I could have sworn I learned about ChatGPT 5 years ago through this very video.

  • @qhtl9
    @qhtl9 6 років тому +207

    The end killed me!

    • @r_s_guerrero
      @r_s_guerrero 6 років тому +1

      Skynet lol

    • @TheEtherny
      @TheEtherny 6 років тому +1

      I feel like when you meet a teacher that teaches something that he actually masters, it's just pure gold

  • @CKTDanny
    @CKTDanny 6 років тому +304

    That's so cool! The UA-cam demonetization bot needs to be recycled.

    • @sammeredith9549
      @sammeredith9549 6 років тому +7

      they are still learning but they are learning the wrong things, its like if we taught kids in school creationism.

    • @Thortawar
      @Thortawar 6 років тому +7

      The tests needs to be better. But I bet they are learning.

    • @zzcratoszz
      @zzcratoszz 6 років тому

      Its the best they got. Its doing exactly what they want it to do.

    • @daanwillemsen223
      @daanwillemsen223 6 років тому

      CGP Grey Hello mr. Bott

    • @4Gehe2
      @4Gehe2 6 років тому +2

      There is nothing inherently wrong with teaching it. I'm not religious but I studied all Abrahamic religions in school. Teaching what creationism is just a valid as teaching capitalism, communism, math or biology. It expands the mind and understanding, especially when creationism is something that exists in our culture and environment, the fact you don't like it doesn't make it go away.
      Now teaching it is an alternative, unquestionable, without critique or as absolute truth then we start having issues.