Democracy Was a Mistake

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  • Опубліковано 9 жов 2023
  • Linus is unhappy with the results of the poll for what phone he should use next.
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  • @xlumyn
    @xlumyn 8 місяців тому +2299

    asking internet to do democracy = boaty mcboatface

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 8 місяців тому +2

      The Adolf Hitler School of Friendship and Acceptance

    • @randomcrandoface2363
      @randomcrandoface2363 8 місяців тому +67

      and a certain mountain dew flavor that shall not be named...

    • @crazyguywatchnu
      @crazyguywatchnu 8 місяців тому +19

      Yeet cannon 9

    • @allenellisdewitt
      @allenellisdewitt 8 місяців тому +5

      Or a bridge @@randomcrandoface2363

    • @kiwikemist
      @kiwikemist 8 місяців тому +3

      Ok that's a great name

  • @cman2270
    @cman2270 8 місяців тому +1918

    He nailed his own grave by telling them to do something. They'll 100% go wing

    • @wordsmith451
      @wordsmith451 8 місяців тому +31

      Nailed his grave? 🤔

    • @Valkross9
      @Valkross9 8 місяців тому +15

      It's like he doesn't know a thing about the internet.

    • @mishradwait
      @mishradwait 8 місяців тому +60

      Dug his own coffin, I say.

    • @Redwan777
      @Redwan777 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@mishradwaithow tf do you dig a coffin?

    • @quantuminfinity4260
      @quantuminfinity4260 8 місяців тому +18

      @@Redwan777With a Shovel-axe

  • @kyleCorbeille
    @kyleCorbeille 8 місяців тому +530

    Luke: "It's because they think it'll be horrible"
    Linus: "That can't be the only reason!"
    So cute seeing a UA-cam star's first day on the internet.

    • @Internatube
      @Internatube 6 місяців тому +1

      LG wing is needlessly over engineered and I fucking love it.

  • @fragmen52_47
    @fragmen52_47 8 місяців тому +1113

    A series of Linus and Luke just trying weird phones for a month in the style of the intel/amd gpu switch videos would be great

    • @agc2801
      @agc2801 8 місяців тому +12

      Yes, buy Luke a phone Linus you’ll definitely make your money back.

    • @Eragonnogare
      @Eragonnogare 8 місяців тому

      Yeah lol

    • @daddie212
      @daddie212 8 місяців тому +1

      there is some old video like this with lumia and blackbarry

  • @getpoked2498
    @getpoked2498 8 місяців тому +422

    Luke gets the Fairphone, Linus gets the wing

  • @malexander6367
    @malexander6367 8 місяців тому +328

    He actually got Lucky. The Unihertz Jelly Star was also quite far up in the rankings.

    • @TylerFurrison
      @TylerFurrison 8 місяців тому +22

      Honestly that would've been funnier

    • @TheOmegaRiddler
      @TheOmegaRiddler 8 місяців тому +18

      That sounds like a sex toy. WTF is that?

    • @TylerFurrison
      @TylerFurrison 8 місяців тому +16

      World's smallest Android 13 phone@@TheOmegaRiddler

    • @allenqueen
      @allenqueen 8 місяців тому +1

      Oh wow! This looks like something I'd like. Thanks for bringing it up

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 8 місяців тому +2

      I’ve been considering that one since smaller Android phones are becoming quite rare these days, but 3 inches are overkill, lol. Their battery is also a little difficult to replace, simply due to the form factor.

  • @themegjake4000
    @themegjake4000 8 місяців тому +418

    After over a decade of doing this, Linus should have damn well seen this coming from light years away.

    • @Optimise247
      @Optimise247 8 місяців тому +1

      He did, he even planned it in advance

  • @samk2407
    @samk2407 8 місяців тому +318

    Linus was really like "with these rules there's no way I can lose" to THE INTERNET 😂

  • @notme222
    @notme222 8 місяців тому +302

    Oh I did vote Fairphone and saw it winning. But LG Wing might be too funny NOT to support. I'm going to go change my vote.

    • @iitchyVee
      @iitchyVee 8 місяців тому +7

      Wing won-g

    • @trs5127
      @trs5127 8 місяців тому +1

      Same really

  • @tyrannicpuppy
    @tyrannicpuppy 8 місяців тому +229

    I love how Dan delivered that argument. The organs of younger phones.

  • @cratlass5
    @cratlass5 8 місяців тому +264

    Linus expecting his community to take this seriously and not immediately try to make it a joke is actually so funny

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 8 місяців тому

      it's democracy right?
      .
      .
      .
      /s

    • @Optimise247
      @Optimise247 8 місяців тому

      People falling for Linus pretending he didn't want the community to jump in on this to get him extra clicks is so funny

  • @Trithis2077
    @Trithis2077 8 місяців тому +144

    Okay, but the Wing is genuinly a Phone I was strongly considering at one point. I think the only reason I didn't get it was because of like carrier support or something like that (or possibly price).

    • @khylee72
      @khylee72 8 місяців тому +4

      I actually really liked it except for some of the complaints about right at the hinge (connection? where it swings out?). Honestly, I wish they had continued to work on it, but I suppose folding phones can do some of the same, plus others (but have problems with foldables, too)

    • @agc2801
      @agc2801 8 місяців тому +6

      LG still makes phones?

    • @acoolrocket
      @acoolrocket 8 місяців тому +1

      I'm on the same, I mostly watch videos anyways and having not handle my phone in horizontal anytime I want to watch and switch been vertical apps would be amazing. Unfortunately since its a 2020 phone its pretty much long gone and detoriating in Android support.
      I really want someone else to make a flip phone like that.

    • @AresTheDragon
      @AresTheDragon 8 місяців тому

      ​@@agc2801not anymore

    • @Shuroii
      @Shuroii 8 місяців тому +2

      @@acoolrocket fairly sure there's a lineage build for it

  • @Devkel15
    @Devkel15 8 місяців тому +24

    Linus hasn't watched Internet Historian's video on polls.

  • @LoyalSage
    @LoyalSage 8 місяців тому +137

    I'm sitting here thinking, "Wow, that sucks that Chrome OS is becoming the default for the next generation of kids." Then Linus mentions the year of Linux on the desktop, and I'm immediately like, "Oh, maybe this could be a good thing."

    • @chunye215
      @chunye215 8 місяців тому +23

      Sure let's make sure they grow up becoming complete tech reta*** 😂

    • @crashdude7589
      @crashdude7589 8 місяців тому +12

      ​@chunye215 yeah if chromeos became standard

    • @Redwan777
      @Redwan777 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@chunye215already are.

    • @zybch
      @zybch 8 місяців тому +20

      @@crashdude7589 In a LOT of schools, they already are. Despite many of the one's I've seen being freaking MORE expensive than a good mid-level i5 PC notebook.

    • @iclonethefirst
      @iclonethefirst 8 місяців тому +22

      I don't think it is a good thing. We already have a huge problem with Google leading the browser market with chrome. Now imagine they put the act together and provide a reliable ChromeOS which is standardized and really developer friendly. All the software would be made for it and probably on some proprietary libraries of Google.

  • @Coaster42
    @Coaster42 8 місяців тому +356

    Am I the only one that unironically kinda likes the LG Wing? It's more interesting than most other phones out there

    • @petrical8460
      @petrical8460 8 місяців тому +34

      When it launched its specs were years behind the competition. But I agree, way more interesting than anything else

    • @Coaster42
      @Coaster42 8 місяців тому +77

      @@petrical8460 Yeah but the screen go whee

    • @AntonioCunningham
      @AntonioCunningham 8 місяців тому +24

      You're not. I get *so many responses* when I'm out and about when people see my LG Wing.
      It's perfect when I'm traveling or on vacation.

    • @skeezixmccat
      @skeezixmccat 8 місяців тому +7

      You are not alone! The Wing was my last phone and it was my favorite in a LONG time. I still have it and even use it for games sometimes! It's sooooo nice to be able to have oldschool runescape on the big screen and a quest guide on the small one!
      Honestly the only reason i upgraded was the lower end hardware. I could BARELY play Pokemon ORAS on Citra on the Wing, while my galaxy s23 gets like 3x the framerate and does it without getting warm

    • @SkylordDuck
      @SkylordDuck 8 місяців тому +2

      I'm still rocking mine! The reactions I get are hilarious.

  • @Exilum
    @Exilum 8 місяців тому +133

    The fairphone definitely didn't feel like the interesting option. We already know what to expect and we can pretty much already imagine the video it will result in, which will be something like 'love the repairability but would've benefited from a few modern features'. Meanwhile, who knows whether by using it Linus could find an use for the LG Wing, or get used to its shape. It'd definitely make for a way more interesting review & retrospective because it has chances, though still weak, of deviating from the expected 'this is bad and that's all there is to it' video.

    • @MorganTheGorgon
      @MorganTheGorgon 8 місяців тому +12

      That’s where I’m at, and why I voted for the wing. I think it’s a little odd for some people to act like the wing is uninteresting, when at the end of the day the Fairphone boils down to being like, a solid midrange with great repairability, while the wing is a legitimately unique form factor

    • @MrDummyisDumb
      @MrDummyisDumb 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@MorganTheGorgon Fairphone isn't even solid low range imo. It's SOC is an industrial chip, not snapdragon. Good for longevity, poor on everything else. All its got going is repairability and long support lifespan. But the phone will probably barely function by its 8th year of support

    • @dennisp8520
      @dennisp8520 8 місяців тому +3

      @@MrDummyisDumbI was interested in Linus trying to daily drive one of ASUS ZenPhones personally or a iPhone 15 Pro Max unironically.
      Fairphone I also didn’t care about personally

    • @jacquesfourie2158
      @jacquesfourie2158 8 місяців тому +4

      I’m also looking for a new phone, fairphone was high on my list. I was sooo excited to see he may do a proper daily driver review on it, but yall had to run it

    • @furdiburd
      @furdiburd 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@MrDummyisDumbits SOC is GOOD. its just an enterprise editon for longer support. it have a very good midrange perfomance

  • @cooldog8856
    @cooldog8856 8 місяців тому +37

    I had an LG Wing for 2 years. It was easily the best phone I had. Urgonomics were on point, the ability to have two screens was a game changer, and the gimbal mode with the camera was great if you knew how to utilize it. I encourage Linus to try this phone given how overlooked it was as it truely was something completely unqiue and something like it will probably never be made again. Also, content wise the Wing makes for some good content as I personally couldn't give a ___ over another brick as someone who has been watching for years. At least the wing is different and from someone who had it, it was truely an underrated device.

    • @mcqueenm1226
      @mcqueenm1226 7 місяців тому

      I'm still using it and the v60

  • @johnnooyen461
    @johnnooyen461 8 місяців тому +34

    If people can see the numbers before the vote closes, they are more likely to tag along joke votes, same if you can vote on multiple options.

  • @towo7100
    @towo7100 8 місяців тому +100

    I voted for the LG Wing. Didn't even do it as a meme, I just legitimately thought it was a really unique and interesting phone. I also had an LG V20 as my second-most-recent phone and liked it.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 8 місяців тому +3

      LG was good while it lasted... last phone LG G2 (after i got Pixel 3XL --> Samsung S22 (partly due to local telecom non-availability and QA issue rumors for pixel 6 ) )
      IMO LG was relatively bloat free, but damn does it have some QA issues... ( and also a PITA to root, like most android OEMs. tho that one is a true PITA, since you need a particular model and software to be able to root (IIRC) )

    • @Vortexcube
      @Vortexcube 8 місяців тому +2

      I wish the last LG dual screen accessory phones could've made the list, like the G8x or the V60

    • @itsbekenotbecky
      @itsbekenotbecky 8 місяців тому

      I had the LG V10 and loved it until it bootlooped on me and couldn't root it anymore after sending it in for repairs

    • @2dozen22s
      @2dozen22s 8 місяців тому +1

      V20 goated
      LG really had some nice designs

    • @DantevanGemert
      @DantevanGemert 8 місяців тому

      I'm sharing Linus' opinion about the note 9 but for my LG G6. I can't find anything today with the same features for a reasonable price... ❤LG

  • @KAINREDIC
    @KAINREDIC 8 місяців тому +14

    Luke's story about his dad at the altar is one of the funniest LTT moments I have ever heard. I genuinely laughed out loud completely uncontrolled at work. That sounds like something I would do. Thanks, Luke.

  • @ClassicRedEye
    @ClassicRedEye 8 місяців тому +32

    Honestly, I want to see Linus daily drive the wing. The phone is unique and cool and deserved some more recognition.

    • @elijahcabacungan2915
      @elijahcabacungan2915 8 місяців тому +1

      having seen Marques Brownlee's review of it yeah i wanna see it too.

  • @homogeeks
    @homogeeks 8 місяців тому +6

    I've seen news articles about school districts moving away from chrome because of the security implications

  • @AlteredCreation
    @AlteredCreation 8 місяців тому +16

    Honestly I think a good compromize would be to do the Wing for a month or so and then switch to the Fairphone after.
    The Wing was an interesting phone, but it feels somewhat pointless to spend too much time with it since LG is out of the phone market. So, it would be kind of interesting to have a retrospective on what was good and interesting about it and then go into the Fairphone to see how that device is for a daily driver.

  • @saoka_
    @saoka_ 8 місяців тому +7

    Modern Xperia phones are pretty close to what linus loke from the note 9. No notch/cutout, headphone jack, dual sim/sd+sim. Also run a pretty clean version of Android. My Xperia 5 ii is my favorite phone ive owned since the galaxy s5

    • @techcommentlooker3951
      @techcommentlooker3951 8 місяців тому

      i rotate between a few phones (some from work) but my 1 ii has been absolutely solid.

  • @notme222
    @notme222 8 місяців тому +15

    Luke should get whatever comes in second in that thread.

  • @noconz0727
    @noconz0727 8 місяців тому +19

    LG wing was the first phone I thought of for this review because it's a phone I was genuinely interested in getting but never pulled the trigger on and is like to know your take

  • @yannikhecht5861
    @yannikhecht5861 8 місяців тому +17

    Microsoft losing an entire generation is such a valid point. I teach ComputerScience at a normal german school. None of them can execute basic tasks on Windows. Especially for office work, that will be really interesting!

    • @jpxyUA
      @jpxyUA 7 місяців тому

      Not just the young generation. I've been hesitant to jump on Android, with absolutely 0 experience with it - I daily drove Symbian till it's last device, since it was a pretty much a pocket PC once rooted.
      But my point is, ever since I went with Oneplus, no bloat etc, I have barely touched my laptop.

    • @reappermen
      @reappermen 4 місяці тому

      To be fair that is nothing new. I went to school in germany around 15 years ago, and 80%+ of my classmates had no idea about doing anything on pc as well.
      And I wouldn't be to sure if Microsoft is loosing to much there. Once those kids go into the workforce, they'll get stuck with Microsoft products for office again, and possibly Windows or MacOS for whatever specialised software that is in use.
      Plus chromebooks kind of have the problem of shops that only focus on beeing cheap. Chromebooks are so basic and simplyfied, anyone who uses one can easily switch to something else as they usualy use no specialised features that would lock them in. They can cost to an extend on people beeing used tl them, but the moment something comes up that encourages them to switch there is no stickyness to chromebooks.

  • @valegory
    @valegory 8 місяців тому +10

    I'm a cs major and am occasionally surprised to see chromebooks in the wild at my university. One of my friends (non-cs major) has gone through a couple during her degree, and just keeps buying new ones b/c they do what she needs and aren't expensive. I met at least one CS major who had a chromebook for taking the class, the chromebook worked fine for class and any time they needed to do something more intense they'd just remote into their home PC or the university's linux server.
    Linus and Luke are absolutely right in how the introduction of Chromebooks in schools has led to a generation of casual (and sometimes more than casual) computer users just sticking with them. It's the same approach Texas Instruments took to get everyone using TI-84s rather than the much faster casios.

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 8 місяців тому

      At my university, I’ve probably not seen more than one Chromebook. The most popular laptops seem to be M1 MacBook Airs and Frameworks, which kinda makes sense for CS students.
      Also, how short-lived are Chromebooks that you can get “through a couple” during a degree? My last laptop lasted me 5 years.

    • @valegory
      @valegory 8 місяців тому

      @@ThePC007 I think it's less that the Chromebooks are short lived and more that non-tech people (especially in college) are just less careful with their tech, and since Chromebooks are cheaper, they actually have the funds to replace them when they get damaged instead of just rolling with a cracked screen or whatever. For me personally I could never do this, like you I've been using the same Macbook for last 4 years and plan to keep using it for as long as I can.
      It's wild to me that you've seen frameworks out in the wild, though. Even as a CS major, I've never encountered one. Most CS majors here use a gaming laptop or a Macbook of some kind (unix backend + native ms office support probably informs this).

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 8 місяців тому

      ​@@valegory Yeah, admittedly I don’t really like upgrading my tech unless I have to. I’ve just recently upgraded my smartphone to an Xcover 5. The previous phone was a ten-year-old Galaxy Note II, lol, and I only upgraded because WhatsApp is dropping support for Android 4. I understand that I’m very much an outlier in that regard. Still, I’d expect someone to not go through more than two laptops during a single degree. But yeah, maybe their low price makes people careless with them.
      Frankly, I was somewhat surprised to see Frameworks in the wild as well, given that it’s such a small company, but at the same time, if Linus from LTT invests in it and absolutely everyone who studies CS knows him, you’d expect them to be pretty popular among tech literate people.

    • @PaperReaper
      @PaperReaper 7 місяців тому

      I actually did the same remoting in from Chrome OS. It was.... an experience. I would not buy another. The amount of time the Linux environment would just break....

  • @chrommob
    @chrommob 8 місяців тому +5

    The chromebooks thing in schools is mainly America. For example here in Czechia and I am pretty sure in other countries in Europe too still use Windows desktops. Windows is required because Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Corel (cheaper Photoshop) are still teached which don't exist or exist in worse form on chromebooks.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 8 місяців тому +1

      word, excel, and powerpoint all have great alternatives on chromeOS. Google docs, sheets, and slides are REALLY fully featured, and ever since switching fully to them i havent found anything wanting, despite growing up with only MS products my entire life.
      However, the single only reason schools in America and Canada use chromebooks is becuase google gives them out like candy. I helped teachers order new ones when i was a tech support assistant back in high school, and each chromebook we got was insanely cheap. we had these pretty nice i3 models from dell with touchscreens and ruggedized casings, and they cost a grand total of 25 dollars a piece. You cant pass that by as a publicly funded school that is basically ignored by the government when it comes to anything beyond "do they have chalkboards? yes? good enough"

  • @Sylkis89
    @Sylkis89 8 місяців тому +22

    it's the 1st time I hear of LG Wing and it's actually looking nice, I like this form factor and would genuinely be interested to see it tested out. It makes more sense than foldables to me actually

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude 8 місяців тому

      I've been using one for over 2 years at this point, and in truth a folding phone is (book style) would be much more useful. That said, the main use I've found with the swivel screen is being able to hold your phone normally while viewing videos and pictures in landscape. Highly underrated feature. The whole multitasking thing is not as useful as people made it out to be in the marketing.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 8 місяців тому +4

    I think the school thing is a double edges sword. the school will buy the cheapest thing they can to save money.
    chromebooks in schools on average are crazy slow, super cheap feeling, and will die in 5 years. students HATE chromebooks because they're slow and cheap from their experience. it especially sucks because some schools will take away the perfectly functioning laptops that are actually faster running windows, and replace them with cheap crappy chromebooks, as well as the teachers not really liking them because they have to completely upend their teaching plan to something different, sometimes mid-simester.

  • @provideddeath1017
    @provideddeath1017 8 місяців тому +7

    I use the LG wing,
    Linus is here refusing an old phones from a closed company. But he did not even cover it when it did come out, nor have i personally seen him ever mention or give it a chance.

  • @Davixxa
    @Davixxa 8 місяців тому +2

    1:52 - In the words of a famous Internet Historian: Any poll's a goal.

  • @dfdedsdcd
    @dfdedsdcd 8 місяців тому +8

    "... probably because it's dumb."
    "That can't be the only reason"
    It's [Social Network].

  • @Cwronaga216
    @Cwronaga216 8 місяців тому +2

    I've been using the LG wing for years and it's my favourite phone I've owned especially as an Uber driver. The second screen being used for media while the main is used for navigation has been a godsend considering how annoying the Uber app can be as it takes up the entire screen

  • @richardchantlerrico
    @richardchantlerrico 8 місяців тому +1

    Bloody called it that he wanted the Fairphone to win!

  • @notme222
    @notme222 8 місяців тому +3

    Cheer up Linus, maybe the Wing won't win. Maybe it will be the Jelly Star. 😂🤣

  • @UnIockables
    @UnIockables 8 місяців тому +13

    In defence of people voting for the Wing, I don't think the lot of them are meme votes.
    To compare it to something similar, I think there's a reason that videos on foldables do so well. It's is because they're such a wildly different form factor from what we expect from smart phones, and it is interesting to see how they operate, even if it's something that most people wouldn't use themselves. Seeing how you used your Fold 3 was interesting because you used it for longer than just a short review window, and gave updates on use in the long term. People wanna know things like: How does it hold up structurally? Are the features actually useable in day-to-day life or are they just flashy gimmicks? And is it more or less convenient compared to a normal phone?
    I think these reasons are why it would be cool to see someone daily drive the Wing. Sorry it had to be you though 😆

  • @Lanevodge
    @Lanevodge 8 місяців тому +1

    I was tempted to get a wing when my phone (G8x with dual screen case) was up for replacement shortly after it came out, but then LG announced they were pulling out of the phone business, and I ended up going for a fold 3 (Since moved to a fold 5).

  • @Probelx
    @Probelx 8 місяців тому +2

    Note 9 was truly perfect phone it came with everything you needed and had every feature that now is taken away

  • @darcsyde345
    @darcsyde345 8 місяців тому +11

    Linus please give the form factor a chance. It genuinely looks super cool to use

  • @Zer0_Smith
    @Zer0_Smith 8 місяців тому +5

    I LOVED my S9. I was so bummed when I broke it and switched to an S21

    • @Zer0_Smith
      @Zer0_Smith 8 місяців тому

      @@GH0STST4RSCR34M Same. I have a S23 Ultra now and don't get me wrong I like it, but it still just doesn't feel the same. The 8 and 9 series were the best phones ever produced.

  • @renchesandsords
    @renchesandsords 8 місяців тому +2

    I expect to see this on the next "Serious Business" from InternetHistorian

  • @SyntheticFuture
    @SyntheticFuture 8 місяців тому +1

    13:00 my first PC was from my dads work. They where replacing their old computers for newer models and unlike these days the old ones would just be sold of to the employees at a substantial discount. After all they where already written off as a business expense anyways. That's the only reason we could afford a pc somewhat "ahead" of the curve.

  • @Sylkis89
    @Sylkis89 8 місяців тому +4

    You should do Sony Xperia V 5 (or VI 5 if it's out by the time you do it) or a Nokia XR21 or its successor (the ones made in Europe)

  • @AshAshAshAshAshAshAshAshAshAsh
    @AshAshAshAshAshAshAshAshAshAsh 8 місяців тому +3

    My dream phone was the LG wing and I got laid off from LG shortly before I got my new free work phone. So for a long time I wanted the wing (honestly still do but software ups to kill it).
    I wish a new company would make a wing like phone

  • @rebane2001
    @rebane2001 8 місяців тому

    The random notification shade dropping down is a fingerprint sensor gesture

  • @ZombieTechie
    @ZombieTechie 8 місяців тому +1

    Incredibly small Unihertz Jelly Star would be pretty funny.

  • @JustQzen
    @JustQzen 8 місяців тому +6

    Back in the early 2000s I think most people I knew at least had 1 PC in their household. And at the time the "nerds" often had multiple PCs but instead of having a ton of screens it was common with KVM. So both me and my dad had multiple PCs but we only had one monitor each. Quite the contrast with todays statistics. I think everyone I know today has one PC per person in the household laptops included and now the nerds often have more screens than PCs.

    • @Rexhunterj
      @Rexhunterj 8 місяців тому

      Screens only take up a fraction of the physical space that desktops do these days, desktops are bigger, but not always by much, eg; my case is ATX but similarly sized to the old off-white towers I used to use in the 90s (lighter than them as well)
      When it became cheaper to manafacture and to buy these screens and they were more space efficient than the desktop is when we shifted from KVM to multi-monitor setups.
      I honestly wonder why we don't design the iGPUs for handling multi monitor set ups more and leaving the dedicated/discreete GPU for purely 3D rendering and encode/decode.

  • @playstak
    @playstak 8 місяців тому +7

    This is such a good idea, love that the Wing might win. Used to love LG and remember linus notoriously disliking LG in the past haha. Would be great to see him use their last phone. Was considering to buy a Wing for £280 just for the sake of it lol

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude 8 місяців тому

      It wasn't their last phone, that was the W41 pro. However we can say that the Wing was their last decent phone.

    • @playstak
      @playstak 8 місяців тому

      @@CockatooDude I don't think that launched anywhere else but India, hence most won't know about it.

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude 8 місяців тому

      @@playstak Oh I see, now that I didn't know. Fair enough.

  • @TiagoTiagoT
    @TiagoTiagoT 8 місяців тому

    22:03 I've had those phantom touches happen on a few phones because of bad chargers, sometimes it doesn't even have to be the phone charger, but some other wall-wart plugged on the same extension or even just nearby; oh, and I had an USB fan that also caused similar issues just being nearby. I've had that happen a few times on a phone that got moist (used it with wet hands, or in the rain, or left it in the bathoom during a shower in weather that made the bathroom extremely misty etc); in those cases, it got better after drying (not just outside, I imagine moisture got inside or at least underneath the screen protector).

  • @clairekholin6935
    @clairekholin6935 8 місяців тому +1

    One thing I need to say, is that my OnePlus n200 has never had any if the issues you talk about, the only problem is the fingerprint sensor not recognizing or the phone slowing down when running some apps, but not really that bad.

  • @Nedlius
    @Nedlius 8 місяців тому +15

    Google's coping hard if they think I'm buying a temperature sensor over a headphone jack

    • @skeezixmccat
      @skeezixmccat 8 місяців тому +11

      Lmao right like i already HAVE a temperature sensor...its called fucking skin 🤣

    • @Nedlius
      @Nedlius 8 місяців тому

      @@skeezixmccat 💀

    • @smallbutdeadly931
      @smallbutdeadly931 8 місяців тому +1

      I too check my water to see if it is boiling temp by sticking my hand in

  • @minikame2272
    @minikame2272 8 місяців тому +8

    The thing about classrooms resonated with me too. We had Macs and Windows desktops at my school, but the Macs just felt like they were from the future while the Windows machines had all the XP themeing disabled plain blue backgrounds etc. and who would've guessed it, I'm now a software dev who uses Apple...

    • @furdiburd
      @furdiburd 8 місяців тому +2

      i used windows 11. its was a s### show. run 2 differen python version? sorry choose its location manualy. copy a file? NOPE i will just crash. drivers? more like drive away. now i use debian

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 8 місяців тому +1

      @@furdiburd MS is just throwing darts and see what sticks these days and to see what they could get away with...
      ever since Win 8, they are on tightropes balancing between going mobile and desktop, before switching to open source, and then going all in on the TPM

    • @zybch
      @zybch 8 місяців тому +1

      @@furdiburd If you're dumb enough to not drive 11 adequately, then debian is going to be way beyond you too. 11 has issues (the whole new UI for one) but seriously, what you described simply isn't an issue if you have any idea of what you're doing. You ought to run a mac, they will hold your hand so tightly you can't do anything.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 8 місяців тому

      @@furdiburd yeah sorry, thats a you issue, not a windows one. functionally 11 and 10 are barely different. Yes you have to chose a different location if you want to run 2 versions of the same damn program... THEY WILL INSTALL TO THE SAME PLACEv BY DEFAULT. As for the fle system crash, Lol, Lmao, cope harder, thats a hardware issue, you probably forced win 11 onto some pc that can barely run it. 99% of similar crashes are due to BS like that.

    • @furdiburd
      @furdiburd 8 місяців тому +2

      @@marcusborderlands6177 maybe right with same program. but cmon i just want something that dont crash and dont uninstall its drivers every time its update.
      actualy my pc is a ryzen 7 5800x3d with a rx 6700. i think that can "run" winblows 11

  • @JPK1337
    @JPK1337 7 місяців тому

    the s9/note9 combined face recognition/iris scanner unlocking feature was amazing. worked in all lighting conditions

  • @Donivar
    @Donivar 8 місяців тому +1

    In a previous podcast I had wondered why Linus' phone looked to beaten up. In this podcast I have seen him either smash it against the table or throw it theee times. Now I see what happened.

  • @chrisblack4836
    @chrisblack4836 8 місяців тому +7

    I think you might be pleasantly surprised by the Wing. It was an actual shame LG left the market after this.
    Would have liked to see a surface 2 duo also.

  • @amazingdrewH
    @amazingdrewH 8 місяців тому +7

    The fairphone is not the most interesting option because we already know that the review will end uplike the early framework laptop reviews whereas the Wing was a genuinely unique phone that will provide an interesting set up for the review

  • @barryyourdad6984
    @barryyourdad6984 8 місяців тому

    Talking about the late 90s/early thousands makes me miss computer shows at the Pontiac silverdome and Gibraltar trade centers

  • @azenyr
    @azenyr 8 місяців тому +1

    23:00 - The older Samsung S7 and above aged really well in terms of hardware quality. Their build quality is so premium that even to this day they feel extremely premium. Not my main phone but I have a small S9 with custom ROMs Android 13 with Pixel UI on it and its stupidly smooth and the screen is still so damn beautiful, it's still a joy to use. If you get into custom roms, old galaxy S phones are amazing as a cheap good phone to get.
    I'm sure that any S22 Ultra and newer will still feel amazing to use in 10 years. Those screens will just forever be beautiful. And now Samsung updates them for a long time too.

    • @richiemohanty5107
      @richiemohanty5107 8 місяців тому +1

      Can relate to this. My Note 8 has aged fairly well, still holds a decent charge. It's not my main anymore but I'm planning on changing the battery and installing a custom rom to make it a backup auth device.

  • @paco_rms
    @paco_rms 8 місяців тому +3

    16:00 Mr Luke's Dad... Sir, I don't know you, but you have all my respect and admiration 😂

  • @miniman567
    @miniman567 8 місяців тому +4

    Can't wait to see it the video on it. It will be great to see how broken a phone gets when the company stops supporting it. Even more so with the wing since how unique it is and how many apps don't support the feature anymore.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 8 місяців тому +1

      i mean, they still update it? it got android 13 recently...

    • @miniman567
      @miniman567 8 місяців тому

      I am talking about Second Screen apps, AKA the major selling point of the phone. Most apps UI are completely broken in it now. Spotify is completely unusable on the second screen and many apps are like that now.

  • @chosenone3137
    @chosenone3137 8 місяців тому +2

    I love the LG Wing. I miss that phone

  • @piefpv3233
    @piefpv3233 8 місяців тому +1

    I hope we get 2 phone reviews now. really interested in the fairphone, but nothing like a good ol' "make Linus angry with terrible tech" video too

  • @spikeimperial
    @spikeimperial 8 місяців тому +3

    if the lg wing is what i think it is. I cant belive you linus. the lg wing is literally the phone that Iron man used in the 1st movie before he got exploded by the IED's he helped make but like Futurised's for us.

    • @samk2407
      @samk2407 8 місяців тому

      It's not that phone you think it is. Google it lol

  • @KyuketsukiRei
    @KyuketsukiRei 8 місяців тому +4

    I want Linus to get the LG Wing and Luke to get the Fairphone for review on Linus' tab. I went and voted for the LG Wing. We need a Luke poll.

  • @fauzirahman3285
    @fauzirahman3285 8 місяців тому +1

    My rant with big phones is that while I don't mind flagships use them, the fact that it's hard to find even a normal quality smaller phone is annoying, and also the fact that they took away the phone jack because of the lack of space should be invalidated with phones getting bigger.

  • @ChristianStout
    @ChristianStout 8 місяців тому +1

    I can't believe Linus is now a monarchist.

  • @raviddog
    @raviddog 8 місяців тому +9

    If the Wing wins the poll fair and square and Linus finds some loophole out of it, I'm unsubscribing. We didn't expect this phone to win because it (and LG) have just fallen by the wayside in terms of media attention. You can talk about the reasons why it failed endlessly, but as a standalone product, it tickles my enthusiast brain like no other. It's a phone with extra screen real estate, but it doesn't have a plastic folding screen, its full glass all the way. It functions perfectly as a regular slab when closed, yet is still one-handable when open. My use case was to watch fullscreen UA-cam videos while on Discord and it performs that role admirably. One of the absolutely unique selling points is that you can have the keyboard on the bottom screen with landscape content on the top, and it does not cover up anything at all. It's a brilliant remote desktop device, and I would be very unhappy if Linus passed over it simply because he thought it was "a meme".

    • @imgladnotu9527
      @imgladnotu9527 8 місяців тому

      shouldeve unsubbed ages ago.... people forgotten about the poll that happened for the linux challenge where gentoo was pinned to be a potential choice......

    • @crashdude7589
      @crashdude7589 8 місяців тому

      ​@imgladnotu9527 gentoo is a completely unacceptable choice lol, he would've picked it and claimed linux was terrible and no one should use it.

  • @WhatAboutRC
    @WhatAboutRC 8 місяців тому +3

    Review the phone that seems like it would be better for you, and those watching the channel in the long run. Dont review the wing because of views and people voting for it because they think it will be bad.

    • @DerZocker2000000
      @DerZocker2000000 8 місяців тому +1

      as someone who just saw the fairphone 4 at my local electronics store and getting the 5 on backorder i'm really interrested in the fp5 review, just for the fact that he's gonna complain about the back button which can't be switched from left to right

    • @furdiburd
      @furdiburd 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@DerZocker2000000i bought a fp5 too

    • @DerZocker2000000
      @DerZocker2000000 8 місяців тому +1

      @@furdiburd how is it?
      does the battery leave the phone after it is dropped?

  • @joshuadrop6435
    @joshuadrop6435 8 місяців тому +1

    “I love democracy” Chancellor, Palpatine

  • @Zairin.
    @Zairin. 8 місяців тому +1

    ive got an LG V60 with the dual screen, and i absolutely love that phone. such a good phone. i wish they'd keep on that design and just refresh with new hardware.

  • @jarkkehhh213
    @jarkkehhh213 8 місяців тому +3

    Fairphone is wayyy to fucking dull, LG Wing might of flopped but at least it was trying to do something different amongst the sea of laziness. 🤷‍♂️

  • @bbking006
    @bbking006 8 місяців тому

    I had the Fairphone confused with the Purism Phone this whole time

  • @FARBerserker
    @FARBerserker 8 місяців тому

    The LG Wing is in the new Blue Beetle Movie

  • @opraiderman904
    @opraiderman904 8 місяців тому +1

    LG should have teamed up with Red Bull to give people wings

  • @Anarchistcowboy
    @Anarchistcowboy 8 місяців тому +1

    I switched to Linux recently and I'm here for all of the advancements happening through proton

  • @KimboKG14
    @KimboKG14 8 місяців тому

    Cant wait for the Internet historian to Do a poll Part 2
    Linus Sebastian discovers the interwebs

  • @Anubis1101
    @Anubis1101 8 місяців тому

    I've been using a Fairphone for a few months now, it's pretty good.
    Biggest complaint is it's barebones Android, which means some fancy options aren't there, like being able to place icons and widgets wherever on the home screen.

  • @oceanlnr9414
    @oceanlnr9414 8 місяців тому

    Admittedly it’s been a couple years since I graduated high school (2020) but when I was there school provided chromebooks were already very common and everyone hated them

  • @pesoen
    @pesoen 8 місяців тому

    i upvoted the fairphone and the wing. the fairphone since its neat, and would likely work for years to come, and the wing because it's really cool, and i think the swing out display could be great to have, considering your usecases.

  • @dustojnikhummer
    @dustojnikhummer 8 місяців тому +1

    ChromeOS might have a generation of adults in the US, but not in Europe or Asia.

  • @someoneelse00
    @someoneelse00 8 місяців тому +1

    Had a hardware issue with my Pixel 7 where the glass for the back camera got blown in. Luckily I was able to get my money back from google. I got lucky through their RMA, but I don't think I'll trust a pixel for another few gens (at least until the back design of the cameras changes)

  • @NexusGamingRadical
    @NexusGamingRadical 8 місяців тому +1

    My pixel 6 pro was very broken on release. The camera has always been super amazing but man the signal & data issues made it unbearable to use. That said, i havent noticed problems in a long time now so Google does eventually get round to it.

  • @shadow105720
    @shadow105720 8 місяців тому +1

    Watching on my Note 9 and i agree. I wish there was just a newer internal version of this phone. I wouldnt mind a bigger screen but this one is basically perfect, plus the headphone jack for cars that have aux but no bluetooth and kinda unique use case but not really my guitar amp has an aux input, the sd card, the fingerprint sensor location is great. My only problem is its so old Whitestone stopped making the screen protector for it. The camera is old but I hardly take any pictures anyway. Could i get a bluetooth dongle thingy? Sure but then i have to worry about keeping it wherever i might need it and presumably charging it. I dont use the stylus much but when i want to use it its right there in the phone.
    I could see myself switching to a folding phone if the large screen wouldn't break from just opening and closing it and if the closed proportions were like my note 9 instead of a skinny screen. And if it had a headphone jack. Like one of the large appeals is watching video or movies but no headphone jack? Youre stuck with bluetooth delay and headphones that might not last a full 2-3 hour movie or integrated speakers? Thats fine for youtube but if im going to actually try to watch a movie say in a car or on a plane i would just want wired headphones, plus all my other non watching use cases like cars and music equipment that takes 3.5mm. I dont use it every day but often enough i wont get one without it any time soon.

  • @Nater_V
    @Nater_V 8 місяців тому

    This is insane because after your original video came up, i got MULTIPLE ads from T-Mobile and att for the lg wing

  • @AnnCatsanndra
    @AnnCatsanndra 8 місяців тому +1

    Direct Democracy is only practically functional when all participants also have direct accountability. And the Internet happens to be very bad at accountability.

  • @Thoringer
    @Thoringer 8 місяців тому

    Yes, on iPhone 15 for iPhone 7 replacement. Well, I had the X (the one that came parallel to the 7) - still works, got new battery for it in May - it's now a backup.

  • @nickd412
    @nickd412 8 місяців тому

    @12:22, my highschool had iMac’s and Mac Pro’s for the CAD/MultiMedia computer rooms. They were light years better than the Vista-laden Dell laptops. It is 100% the reason why I bought a Mac for undergrad and beyond.

  • @MarisaClardy
    @MarisaClardy 8 місяців тому

    That screen turning off when typing in a call issue, Luke, is something I also have with my Galaxy S20. I think it's an Android issue more than a Pixel issue. Because both my Galaxy S20 and my phone before it had this exact same problem. It is so difficult to keep the screen on when I'm in a call.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr 8 місяців тому +1

      Just avoid covering the proximity sensor. Keep it clean and avoid cases that cover it. Note that many modern phones especially Samsung ones (even cheap ones!) now have the proximity sensor under the display, invisible. Try to find the exact location of this sensor on your phone (either by hovering your finger over the display without touching it during a call to find where the sensor is, or turning off the display and having a very bright light pointed at it but its very difficult to see this way, or searching for it on the web) and then you will know where you should avoid covering during a call, and avoid cases who cover or get too close to this area.

  • @AresTheDragon
    @AresTheDragon 8 місяців тому +1

    I want Luke to either be stuck with Linus using a wing or use the fairphone and do a review on it just so Linus has to deal with the torment that he's not using the wing

  • @murdercom998
    @murdercom998 8 місяців тому +1

    I've been wanting to buy a wing for two year but I just can't justify it when the price hasn't budged much

  • @Sam_on_YouTube
    @Sam_on_YouTube 8 місяців тому

    This isba clip of Linus' first day on the internet. Welcome Linus. It is a hellscape.

  • @HeavyMetalGamer78
    @HeavyMetalGamer78 8 місяців тому +2

    Okay I actually liked my LG Wing. It was a good form factor, well built, and didn't have soft screens that could get damaged.

  • @phantomzero906
    @phantomzero906 8 місяців тому +1

    Man this kind of stings, I have an LG wing. It’s great when I’m studying or running games and want to watch UA-cam at the same time.

  • @halkon4412
    @halkon4412 8 місяців тому +1

    The only problem with the LG Wing was that it was a 1st generation device without a laptop t of thirs party support. The idea itself is actually really cool and had a lot of potential.

  • @majstealth
    @majstealth 8 місяців тому

    i used my lumia 950 from launch at christmas 2015 until may 2023. my wife uses my 920 for the navigation when she drives somewhere unknown to her. both work fine, apart the usual windows problems, like random crashes, or no gps until reboot and such..^^

  • @Mike322161
    @Mike322161 8 місяців тому +1

    Headphone jack? My battery lasts more than long enough to just use wireless, and wired just fits with an adapter I got with my phone. It doesn’t leave my headphones.

  • @coreyrunyon7678
    @coreyrunyon7678 8 місяців тому

    I've had the LG Wing for two years now and I love it!! The second screen comes in handy when you want to reply to someone without going out of your video. Plus other things but I don't wanna sound like an ad.

  • @technerd9655
    @technerd9655 8 місяців тому +1

    25:16 I have the same issue with earbuds as Luke. Luke should do a review of the best earbuds for people that can't wear earbuds that insert into the ear canal.