QD-OLED May Have Solved This Longstanding OLED TV Problem FOREVER
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2022
- Based on a dark-room demo of the Sony A95K QD-OLED vs last year's A90J OLED TV, it seems QD-OLED may have solved a longstanding problem of conventional OLED TV.
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2:50 “I pay more attention to down below”. Just cracking. The way you implement your humor is top notch.
Originally I was looking hard at the G1... but that eventually slipped to the G2.. but damn.. the longer I wait, the better the options become. I'm Totally excited for the A95K now. It's a long road to Black Friday...
Looks like that’s the one to get!
Or the next year 2 nd Gen?
😆
Don't they also discount some TVs during July "back to school" sale season in the US?
@@blue4059 deepest discount is always black Friday.
I honestly don’t think the TVs will be on black Friday before the C1 G1 will be marked down lower than 1K.
@@BrendenChase77 actually its the best buy employee discount that's the biggest
Thanks again Vincent for the clear and concise descriptions. And lack of hyperbole (including the title), as you explain why with no fanfare. And yes "down below"!
He made me burst out laughing
why have hyperbole when you can have innuendo - Vincent, probably
When the video about the samples is so good it got embargoed as a proper review 👏 can't wait to see the s95 review!!
Only Vincent can discover and tell us these improvements. May you live long and continue to educate us.
My Sony XR-65A90J does have this problem. Not as intense as shown in the examples but still prominent enough to be seen very easily.
that reference monitor is beautiful
I am so going to get (the 3rd generation of) this product.
I'm very much looking forward to your review of the Samsung S95B. I've pre-ordered and expected delivery is early May. Always respected your opinions and reviews.
I own the Samsung S95B and in my brief testing(2 days) I have not seen any chrominance overshoot. Most of my testing was done with Game of Thrones. Also, the uniformity down to 1% is the best I have ever seen on any OLED. Even a 100% white pattern was clean with no tinting.
@petmic10: Thanks for the info!
@@hdtvtest No problem. Eagerly awaiting your review!
I think you made a huge mistake and should have bought the Sony A95K. There is no doubt it'll be better. But at least S95B is top 2.
@@profitfever I made a huge mistake? lol
I think I'll decide what to do with my hard earned money. The Sony very well may be better but I just didn't want to spend the extra $1,000 dollars for it. It's okay to be second. It's only a television. lol
@@petmic10 And be happy that you are not having to pay UK prices. Congrats on your purchase 👍
really enjoy geeking out with you boi - another great post - you are the best
Great video, Thank you! I am really excited of the technology advancements that are being made! I cannot wait 3 to 4 years down the road where this technology becomes affordable mid range standards right before 8k Tvs become a popular choice!
I don't know if it's something you're trying to do, but I think your English is getting better. Thanks for the reviews. 👍
The main reason i went Panasonic two years ago was for the superior handling of this issue. The MAIN reason i switched to OLED was because i fucking love my contrast and my dynamic range, and for me it was vital to have phenomenal dark/blacks handling. I couldn't care less about HDR, i just wanted fantastic "lows" in the range. Still surprised it took this long and with a new tech, to get it widely solved on the global industry scale.
Just to be clear - you don't care about peak brightness, but you DO care about HDR. HDR =/= brightness. The "R" in HDR is "range". The black/near black performance is just one half of the equation. Now we're getting closer to having both!
@@nathanddrews You both are forgetting color gamut. HDR is about *all* of these things. Saying "I don't care about HDR" is practically equivalent to saying "I'd rather listen to radio instead". Might as well go back to analog black and white.
@@getsideways7257 I'm going to be a bit pedantic here: dynamic range and color spaces are related, but different things. If we're talking about Rec. 2100, then yes, the marketed "HDR" is a specific combination of both.
@@nathanddrews Of course I was talking exactly about the marketed "HDR", which should have been called something like "luminosity range extension" instead.
Also, if we were really pedantic, we would be talking about "dynamic" range only in context of, say, human vision or hearing. HDR10 - by design - is static with the range of "near zero" to 10,000 nit. HDR10+, on the other hand, is supposed to cram all of that into the actual physical range of a given consumer device.
You love your dynamic range and contrast but don't care about HDR. HIGH DYNAMIC RANGE ????? You realize HDR is about giving you the biggest spread in darks to brights? Which is Contrast and dynamic range.
Thank goodness. It was the near black handling and flashing artefacts that put me off the previous generations. Hopefully the full review confirms this is still the case on consumer models. If that's sorted, then for me the only thing left is that the TV does not suffer the APL delay as seen in the LG C2. Fingers crossed.
Something to consider:
There is a trend in new movies that are coming out more and more. Movies are getting darker in many scenes. Be it Batman, Mandalorian, Runaways or other series or blockbusters, the trend of black crushing and DSE is increasing. That is why it is important when doing the gray test, not to just start from 40% where everything is already ok, but from 5-10%, which is the level reached by many new productions.
Vincent, I hope you will consider that aspect in the next tests and reviews.
@Rob 700: We have already been testing near-black chrominance overshoot on every single OLED TV we've reviewed since late 2018, when we first described the issue:
ua-cam.com/video/KjObx--Oq8g/v-deo.html
@@hdtvtest And these issues are becoming more and more relevant. 👍
So the Sony Oled is getting interesting although apparently in the LG Oleds the white pixel can be controlled. Now the black scale has to be finer to avoid black crashing, but that will surely be in future TVs eventually with 12 bits. 🤔🤷♂️
@@RSV9 I understood that on Sony 2021 models WRGB Oleds is problem mittigated more like on LG models from 2021 for instance. I may be wrong. Actual message all WRGB Oleds will have som quirk with white subpixel chrominance overshoot issue regardless model, only difference is as Vincent mentioned mittigation level of an issue variating dependable on WRGB Oled model, TV release date - model year and on TV maker. As all models are doing different things. But no ideal WRGB Oled exist avoiding this white pixel chrominance overshoot issue totally.
@@milanklco You are right👍
The movies are getting darker and darker because DP's think that once they're shooting movies with digital cameras they no longer need to care about lighting their scenes properly.
Crushing Black does not help to eliminate the overshoot. It merely moves the overshoot to a different place. It always happens whenever the white subpixel is engaged.
Thank you for posting this video. Finally got the answer as to why my OLED did this. Didn’t know it was an OLED flaw
I have never experienced it with my 55" Panasonic HZ1500.
Panasonic not available in US
Excellent work Vincent!
Hi Vincent, I really like your videos and adjusted my tv mostly towards your great recommendations.
What would be your ideal settings for watching standard definition DVDs on an LG Oled c9 or higher?
Thanks soooo much for your help! 🙏
I noticed this WRGB glitch for the first time while watching Malignant with my LG CX. That film has severe crush problem, and HBO Max’s Dolby Vision treatment seemed to make it worse.
Hey!
Really appreciate your videos. I do wish that they did not contain innuendos. It would make it easier for me to watch more of your channel more consistently. Great work though!
Vincent is The Man*!
* for video tech.
The same thing could be found more prominently in oled phone displays specifically @dimmed brightness. I was so far clueless why no body talked about it
Exactly, scrolling through a dark mode twitter for instance at night, any pictures you scroll past you could easily see this issue. I noticed it a lot on an iPhone Xs, but improved dramatically on an iPhone 12 Pro, so good to see OLED tech is improving as we go through the years. Hopefully the LG C2 is improved as I plan to pick that up later in the year.
But the phones dont use wrgb. They used rgb oled
@@xfire9233 well, the exact same problem happens. So unless there is a different underlying cause for it.
@@xfire9233 Yes, but most OLED phones/tablets use a pentile matrix that shares adjacent subpixels (usually green), so it's not true RGB either. You're still at the mercy of that adjacent green subpixel being on when you don't want it to be.
Haven't noticed anything like that on my Huawei P30. All I could wish for is to have this exact same display as a standalone monitor/TV. I'd be fine with 60 Hz limitation and no HDR even. It seems to be calibrated almost perfectly OOTB (confirmed by notebookcheck measurements), in contrast to the majority of current OLED monitors and TV's, especially when it comes to EOTF tracking.
I see no point in OLED technology with these kinds of issue and awful calibration which are defeating their main benefits (apart from the fast pixel response times)...
0:13 I notice a whole section of the panel (say a third section of the monitor vertically including that area) which is like a strip that's brighter? Not sure if that's just the video or this display
You are the cooles and funniest tech reviewer out on UA-cam!
I would wish that you also review near field beamer, because in my opinion they have to be considert as alternative as soon as you want to go over 75 inch.
Because TV's get then realy expensive. And near field beamer als possible for every home and you don't have to mount such huge case on your ceiling.
Maybe you consider it, would love it.
I'm so unsure if it will be again a LG OLED or a Near field beamer this time.
65" A95K pre-ordered!
Arrival was such a good movie
@Nick K: Agreed.
It’s definitely going to come down to the s95b vs a95k, one is getting my money for sure
I'm going with Samsung because of that incredible color volume and saturation.
@@AllDayErrDay. You like unrealistic oversaturated colors.
Gotcha. 👍
@@PSYCHOV3N0M if only you are picking a samsung with lower contrast ratio with poor colour saturation, or a WOLED what duilts colours, nothing is realistic in them terms.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M definitely, especially for gaming. I have enough reality during the day so when I'm on my TV, I want an escape.
@@AllDayErrDay. Here we can see a guy with no taste for quality.
@hdtvtest Vincent, any schedule for reviewing the Samsung or Sony QD-OLEDs? I was going to buy the 77" LG C2, but now I"m seriously contemplating waiting a year for a 75 or 77" QD-OLED. The reviews I've seen have been amazing so far, but I'm waiting to hear from you!
Is this different from the VRR gamma bug? or does it fix that too?
Feeling big fomo
Just moved into my new house and got a 65inch A90j at really good price
Can't wait to see a proper review of the A95k
Hope the A90j isn't beaten to badly!
This is actually the biggest leap in oled since it was introduced on TVs
Well, we should hope it's beaten to death, and the same for QD-OLED by microLED in a few years. That will just drive prices down for everyone, and eventually us poors will be able to buy the next best thing.
This TV came out of nowhere and was planned to paperlaunch end of 2022.. 😐
@@carlmclemore6104 I was caught between a rock and hard place. I was able to get the A90j with Sony staff discount. And I did have my eyes on the A95k but there was no realese date and I needed a TV urgently
Stars haven't aligned this time around!
You still have one of the best TVs that money can buy. As long as you didn’t buy a QLED, you’re fine. Still blown away by my LG CX after a year and a half of owning it. Samsung’s S95B sounds like it is absolutely phenomenal and I’m glad that Samsung will stop pushing FUD about OLED, advancing the TV panel technology even faster now. I will say that I’m curious to see how the S95B performs with longer term usages.
So, it was my 2017 LG OLED E7 flickering the dark escenes of episode 10 of the Second Season of For All Minkind on Apple TV + and not the Apple TV itself.
Good to know.
Hello Vincent,
I just wanted to take time and thank you for all your efforts in what you do . You are Truly the Best UA-cam Reviewer of Television’s PERIOD ! . You Expose it All . No flaw in Tv technology escapes you . You have saved myself and I’m sure many other’s a lot of money by telling the whole truth . I have compared you to the top television reviewers on UA-cam and you are number one . Keep doing the PERFECTION you do . :)
The improvement to near blacks is the biggest for me. I love how dark my C7 OLED gets, but it definitely does crush some dark greys to black and without a completely blacked out room the reflections make it harder to watch. Sadly my C7 has pretty bad burn in now, but i've been using it as a monitor for 5 years, and often for 15+hour sessions. The burn in isn't any kind of static image like a windows taskbar (i have everything set to auto-hide) its three blue dots in the top-left corner that i can only see when the screen shows red/orange in that corner of the screen. And on Red there is also a MASSIVE angled rectangle going through the bottom of the screen and overall the screen has this look like its dirty.
RGB is the biggest difference.
you will notice it right away when you see this tv.
Pure Whites and Pure Colors
My C7 is toast too. 11K+ hours and the red pixels in the center of the screen are worn out, creating a big green blob on yellowish backgrounds. Backlight was very conservative, so I expected it to last longer. I've preordered an A95k....
@@TheZagabogMan Yeah I kept my oled brightness on 45-55 so i expected mine to last longer as well. I am also going for an A95K, if it doesn't last very long though it might be my last OLED. Don't get me wrong i am super happy with the OLED quality, its just tough forking out so much money all the time for me.
@@TheZagabogMan My C9 is at 12,000 hours and is still perfect… guess the 15 minute compensation cycles introduced in the C9 do make a difference.
Excellent video. Just discovered your channel a few minutes ago. I'm getting ready to see The Northman in a about an hour from now,but when I get back home I'll watch more of your videos. Just a question. Any word on 8k blu-ray players? I'm hoping that they will be made. 📺 🇺🇸
Please provide any settings for Sony A80J to minimize this issue.. i know it cannot be eliminated completely due to the panel type used, but I'm sure there are some settings to fine tune. Currently, I'm using settings by RTings and this glow issue is very prominent..
Vincent. I have a few WRGB OLEDs now.. I tested the Arrival movie you mentioned in both SDR 1080p, as well as HDR 4K... And noticed none of that yellow ringing/smearing artifacting mentioned at 0:23...
@bliglum: Yes, as mentioned at 2:14 in this video, most OLED brands have implemented a combination of mitigation measures, so you'll rarely see it in real-life content. The mitigation measures may lead to other side effects though... again all explained in the video.
Do you know what the new update for the Samsung S95B was for Vincent?
Would love to see you review the Xiaomi C2 UST with Dolby Vision.
I love your videos because it's always precise and technical 👌
an important topic, thx fore the info
Have you got a qdoled TV to review? I can't wait for your review
Have you got any solutions for flickering on dark scenes like in Dune? Im running LG G1 and that movies flickering was the worst I've ever seen and couldn't find a fix to adjust flickering. thanks
So with which TV/monitor you check the reference monitor so you know the reference how good it is? :)
Ohhh! Nice Red Bull cap! :D
Hey Vincent, notice any venitian blind effect on the QD OLEDs?
On my sony something that I noticed and can be improved is where should be gray, there is blue light and gray has some blue in it
When you stop the movie, zoom in 400% and comparing it to the reference monitor - you can see slightly a 3% difference in picture quality. ^^
S95B when ? :D
I'll still be getting a 83" g2, but i would have gone with the QD-oled if they were in like sizes (even 77) - hopefully next year. (Maybe next year LG will have a qd-oled screen option or others will open up 3dlut auto cal. (no interest in getting a Samsung TV tho. their panel yes, but not a tv made from them.))
I'm waiting a year or two myself. Sticking with my 77 g1 for now.
Those of us who like large TV's should definitly hold out for a 77" or 75" QD-OLED next year.
@@jonasz6962 true. Might give it even two years tbh. Let it mature a little.
I loved this video🙏😍
Anyone know what settings are best for the 4k chromecast? Specifically the display resolution, options are 4k 60hz / 4k 50hz / 4k 30hz / 4k 25hz / 4k 24hz and lastly 4k smpte. I know he's gone over refresh rate for movies but just want to know what's BEST for watching movies across multiple apps
High ISO doesn't cause the noise, it only amplifies it. It's the sensor's low SNR that causes it.
Keep your hands down, Vincent! This isn't a bank robbery.
The only negative is size and possibly the price when the bigger sizes show up one day.
Was this video made before you got your S95B? It's slightly weird IMO that you don't mention the QD-OLED you have on hand at all.
Really weird.
Most likely. He was actually probably almost done editing this one when the Samsung came in. He probably quickly shot, edited, and posted that one because that was the most exciting one.
Then he took the time to finish this one, and then probably started on the review that he's working on now. It takes a while for a thorough review so he published this one in the mean time because it was already done.
@@GameBoiye that's understandable but he could have at least put a pinned comment to say that he will test it further on the S95B and conclude if is really fixed by QDOLED or it is just sony processing. He could also have addressed if that video was shot and edited before getting the S95B just to make it clear. By that video it looks like sony is the only TV producer in the world.
@damnKris: This long-overdue video was based on the Sony A95K vs A90J demo we attended back in February, and our Samsung S95B retail unit crushed some shadow detail out of the box, so we're running it in for 100 hours to see if it corrects itself, or can be calibrated out.
@@hdtvtest Unfortunately, the problem with the S95B is big as calibrating a window of 9% will spoil the window of 10% for the EOTF but why not try calibrating a window of 9% and see if it makes it worse or better EOTF
This trick made it hard to make it better I guess because it tracks the EOTF in the 10% window correctly while it doesn't do the rest of the window
Good findings
I'm always affraid to watch one of your videos, as you tell me exactl, what to look for and then I can't unsee it. You ruined non QD OLED for me 😅
Really looking forward to seeing those reviews and comparisons! I am really curious to see how the QD TVs compare to the G2. Also curious if it is known if LG has any plans of using QD displays, or something similar in the near future.
you can calibrate my oled then when finished i take hammer and smash my lg 65 oled in front of you to show what real power of ha. te is . i ha. te rich class people
In other words, if LG will plagiarize Samsung anytime soon??
They have been releasing the same broken WOLED WRGB panel during the last decade.
Glad Samsung came in to show the way. If LG tries to rip them off as the scam artist, they will have to show up in court.
... Ever heard of Patents?
Rip LG
RIP WOLED
Rip WRGB
RIP LG consumers.
Does QD-OLED also have Better brightness and no need for ABL? I love my LG OLED TV but when I’m playing bright games on my Nintendo switch, ABL kicks in and dims the screen and it’s so distracting.
There's still abl but it's also way brighter
@@theanimerapper6351 yeah the QD-OLED does look awesome and way more brighter. Sucks about the ABL but oh well, nothing is perfect
OLED ABL always problem for bright games
Call me crazy, after owning a Samsung Q8FN and LG C1, ABL just seems like an improvement, I hate being blinded by a 500 Nits Full Field screen, any time I see the screen dim on the OLED I just feel a sense of relief that my eyes aren't being scorched by the HDR.
When I was playing bright games for extended periods of time on the Samsung I would dim the screen to 50% brightness just to reduce eye strain, no need for that with OLED.
@@budthecyborg4575 I agree, that is exactly how I feel too 🤷♂️ idk if some people just aren't bother by bright screens like me
Every time I commit to the A80J 77, I see something else. Its driving me nuts !
Finally something about near black tones again
Is the subpixel arrangement of this year QD-OLED TVs a type of PenTile Matrix? And how this type of subpixel arrangement affects image clarity?
NO PenTile totally independent subpixel, subpixel arrangement affect text sharpness not image clarity
Does calibrating your TV help with this problem? I have a Sony A8H and I’m definitely seeing quite a bit of this
Nah. Think of it like when you have an older car which the dashboard vibrates loudly only between say 1100 and 1200 RPM, but otherwise it's quiet. Same thing here, in that particular area of brightness OLED TV's just can't 'feather' the effect well enough without tricks like was mentioned in the video.
I have an lg CX and raising the brightness gets rid of it. In my experience slightly elevated black is better that the white outline. If you see it occurring, pause and raise brightness till it disappears.
I didn't know about this OLED issue. Seems like QLED is the choice now
Vincent! Please connect with the boys over at My Life in Gaming!! They just asked for help re: LG OLED CX/C1/C2 for retro gaming, and you would make the best reference imo!
Wondering about Vincent's opinion on the bluray player vs xbox comparison done by LTT.
And so the black crushing secret was out!
@HDTVTest Could you include Monster Hunter scenes in your detailed Samsung QD-OLED review.
Of course. :-)
QD OLED seems to be better in every way? This is crazy!
Evolution of technology is amazing
My biggest concern is the fact that it uses blue OLEDs for blue sub-pixels as well as to illuminate the red and green quantum dots. Blue OLEDs have the worst lifespan of all OLED colors. They only last about 10,000 hours before they start to have a noticeable loss brightness as well as color shift. That's exactly why Samsung abandoned the idea of true RGB OLED TVs for the commercial market several years ago. I have no doubt that QD-OLED looks great and better than WRGB OLED when brand new but what will it look like 3-5 years from now? I'm not willing to spend the money to find out for myself. I have a Sony A80J and I'll be keeping it until either micro LED (one LED per sub-pixel) or QDEL are $2,000-2,200 for a 65".
@@jimv1983
You are literally quoting numbers from back in the day, not to mention, that you completely ignore the fact that a missing red and green sub-pixel also means missing chemical and heat transfer interaction.
The lifetime of blue shouldn't be a problem anymore since modern blue pixels, depending on the compounds have theoretical brightness limits of around 3000 nits. These TVs don't come even close to that number and if you assume it would still degrade about 5 percent(the rate at which the pixel would be declared end of its life) in 10.000 hours (which isn't the case anymore), you could multiply that number by at least 11 until this panel would show a difference in specular highlights.
@@jimv1983 keep your a80j while the the rest of us enjoy qd oled
@@jimv1983 Planned obsolescence most likely. Pay out the ass, it lasts a handful of years and then the issues show up.
Oooh this why the picture on my lg c1 looks so off to me I come from plasma and I am guessing it does not have those issue.My eye keep telling smt off with c1
Can we assume the QD-OLED monitors (such as the AW3423DW) also solve that issue? I don't recall you mentioning it in your review, I'm guessing the Sony demo just highlighted it to you?
Really curious about this as well!
2:33 - I can't believe you missed out on a dark room joke 😂
How does qd oled handle motion?
Will the QDOLEDmonitor from Alienware be a good choice for PC monitor for multimedia consumption? I don't care about video gaming. Unfortunately there's no QD OLED TV that's below 55 inches.
I'm just bummed that there will be no qd-oleds bigger than 65 inches this year.
We still dont have dts:x support and this is a big audio missing feature problem! LG add DTS:X back to your oled lineup TVs!!!!!!
The only solution to get DTS:X is to go through a receiver. They’re unlikely to bring DTS support back.
If you simply want lossless 5.1-7.1 from DTS:X tracks you can set your player to PCM instead of bitstream. Just remember to switch it back to bitstream for Dolby Atmos content.
Speaking of qd-oled... Verstappen or Checo?
Enough of a reason to replace my Sony A8F. Hate that weird flickering which I guess is gone forever on QD OLEDS
0:34 did you add an effect to make it more noticeable teoh? Or is that how it actually looks in person?
That's how it looks in person for me. It's a very difficult problem to capture because it only happens in dark scenes/areas. By far the biggest problem with my CX and incredibly distracting in certain scenes. I tried contacting LG but they told me it was 'within spec'. Annoys me that this is apparently a longstanding issue with OLED but it rarely got brought up in the reviews I read...
@@geggiiis I think it was brought up now since the arrival of QDOLED side by side comparisons are shining a light to these issues that were otherwise neglected as newer technology often highlights the flaws of older tech that nobody noticed till we see the next significant jump in panel display. It's a shame LG didn't bother to attempt to understand your issue as you've described.
@@TheSlyDragon93 I honestly noticed it immediately because no other TV I've had has exhibited such a horrible effect. I've had DSR and uniformity issues in the past, dead pixels and obviously 'raised' blacks because of LCD and LED tech, but this is one of the more uniquely obnoxious problems I've witnessed, and with the most expensive TV I've bought too. Basically if I can see it in streamed and disc-based SD/HD/4K content, and in videogames, then I don't think there's much excuse for tech reviewers, unless of course I got a dud unit but LG seem to think otherwise! It's a pain because everything else about the TV is excellent---I couldn't go back that's for sure!
Downbelow?? Uh oh! LMAO Great review!
S95b vs a95k.
Curious who will win.
I really should stop watching these videos after getting my C1 last Black Friday after saving up for so long...
SAME
It’s an awesome TV, just enjoy it and don’t bother with these reviews Talk
I’m in the same boat. I purchased a C1 around Black Friday as well. Make no mistake we still have an excellent TV. The QD LED would have been out of my price range anyway. I still don’t like no Dolby Vision support. I never noticed what’s he talking about. Now I might. lol. Just think of how good your next TV will be. In 5+ years it’s going to be even better. Your next TV may even be the legendary Micro LED.
Don’t sweat it. It’s how this stuff goes, always something better around the corner. It’s foolish to stay on top of it unless you have stupid amounts of f you money, even then it’s foolish lol
@@MidnightWhiteKnight You're right of course. I've always had difficulty with that unfortunately.
Why do you use refence clip as renice
Everyone wants the QD - OLED while I’ll be that random person buying the 77 inch LG C2 OR the 77 inch Sony A80K
Does QD-OLED tv use PWM backlight?
It's interesting that I've just started watching your videos but no one in my family at home actually has a 4K or OLED tv. We're all still with 1080p plasma TVs which are still doing the job very well to be honest, however my old and much cheaper Panasonic 42 inch suffers from quite noticeable burn in now where the others don't suffer from it at all it seems. Monitor wise my newest monitor is nearly 7 years old at this point and my oldest is over 10 years old in my triple monitor setup, and somehow I actually prefer the washed out look at least for gaming as I am able to spot everything in the shadows and this also goes for watching content too to some respect. Looking forward to making some upgrades over the next few years, my main PC monitor probably this year but the ultrawide QD-OLED doesn't seem a good fit for me. If there was a regular 16:9 though, and not sure if they can do it at 27 inch size then oo
I miss the plasma tv era. Still have a Panny S60 rocking along, but my G25 and Sammy 8500 have died..
I still remember watching the 2014 world cup final on a plasma at a sports bar. It was the best sports content I have ever seen. I could never quite point at what made it look so good until recently, but it was the motion clarity of the plasma that hasn't been matched by LCD or even OLED to this day. Only CRT has better clarity in motion than plasma.
I was going to get a 77” C2 or G2 but now I’m leaning towards a 65” A95K.
Definitely go bigger if it's a living room tv.
Half the price no name 85" LED is better than 65" QD-OLED.
Any 77" OLED is better than 65" A95K.
Top Samsung 85" QLED and 77" OLED are as good.
83" OLED is best of them.
@@kiisseli1337 if I’m 6-7 feet away 65 or 77 inch?
@@kiisseli1337 "
Half the price no name 85" LED is better than 65" QD-OLED."
What? No, contrast will be worthless and many other things as well
I'm in the exact same boat. Might just wait till next year because supposedly Samsung has already gotten it's yields to 75% on 55"-65" QD-OLED so I don't see how they wouldn't release a 75"+ next year. Plus I never like 1st gen anything.
@@Hirnlego999 I’ve got a 65” c9 and sit about 10ft from it. I would feel comfortable going up to a 77” at my viewing distance. But I think it would be too big if I were sitting 6-7 feet away. That’s just my preference. I’ve read that with 4k, the rule of thumb is to sit as far away as the screen size. Or up to 1.5x the screen size so 6.4-9.6 feet.
The wonder woman issue presented in this video is not present in my LG 55CX Oled via HBO MAX in Dolby Vision...
Good evening from New York.
@Stein Mauer Yes, good evening.
Vincent, would you say the S95B is brighter than the Q60T? I’m thinking of upgrading but brightness is my biggest concern.
The Q60T maxes out under 500 nits, but it can do 500 nits full screen. The S95B is gonna be around 200 nits full screen (which sounds like a bigger difference than it is, your eyes would perceive that as like a 30% difference). However the S95B can hit a thousand nits on a 10 percent window and 1600 on a 1 percent window. So bright sections of the screen, especially specular highlights, would be much brighter. If the Q60T isn't bright enough for you in SDR, then I'm guessing you have a lot of ambient light in your room and you'd probably want to go with a higher end LCD vs any kind of OLED.
Thanks for the useful information. The Q60T is very bright in SDR even in a well lit room. I don’t find it bright enough in HDR and it gets a lot of backlight bleed. I think I’ll stick with LCD. Probably go QN90B next.
@HDTVtest @Vincent So I’m confused now. For those of us with CX 77’s purchased on your recommendations not long ago, what is the best setting to use in the latest firmware 04.35.20…Smooth Gradation “High” and Noise Reduction “Auto” to minimize the effects that you speak upon in this UA-cam video???
Noise reduction auto, keep gradation off. It scrubs away detail more than it fixes banding.
@arashjahn: LG OLEDs since 2019 have suppressed near-black chrominance overshoot quite well. If you don't see any flashing/ glowing artefacts in normal content, just use [Smooth Gradation] "Low" and disable [Noise Reduction].
on my CX I raised brightness to 61, all other stuff off. Does not happen anymore. Find an example of it, pause and raise brightness till disappears
Remember the hype for x900h? Me too. I bought one. Now stuck with a bug-riddled TV. Sorry, no matter the tech, I have zero trust in $ony.
Ouch. Yeah that is unfortunately not a very good TV all the way around.. sorry to hear bro.
Did it ever get VRR?
@@paulcox2447 It did get VRR. Along with not one, but two new framerate bugs. 6 months later and Sony engineers are "aware of the issue." Half-res 4k120 still going strong, too!
I need to know if I should buy a G2!!!! We need the answers Vincent haha great video!
so they put the W pixel there to pump the brightness so it looks good in a showroom and fuck it up... great.
Ahh good news but doesn't help me much on my CX that I bought at the end of 2020. Oh well, I did get the 5 year best buy warranty so I can hopefully use that to upgrade when LG puts out their TV that fixes this. I don't want to move away from LG.
Does Best Buy provide upgrade paths through warranties??
How often does this happen?
Super, sir
what about screen burn in ?