Wow I had never heard of this before. It sounds like Kathy absolutely wanted the man to attack and sexually assault Janice. She went as far as to say for him to continue with the act even if she was saying no. That is horrible.
For a person to be able to continue with that level of hatred for that length of time is terrifying, if she hadn't been caught I think she would have just escalated her behaviour, I think she could have been capable of murder.
I'm not sure murder is necessarily a likely progress for such a pattern, but it leaves me wondering what other sorts of manipulative/coercive/abusive behaviors she might have done in the past that never were made public to a comparable extent. I'd imagine it would be somewhat more of a pattern (and this case hopefully its extreme), to some degree, rather than a one-time thing that came completely out of nowhere.
How could Kathy's solicitations be consensual? SHE'S not the one who has to give consent here. There's a third party here that was NEVER ASKED FOR THEIR CONSENT and that's the only part that should matter. What the heck was that judge thinking?!
It sounds like he wasn't thinking at all. That was the worst thing she did. Then, she buys a house just a mile away from them? That's so wrong, too. The judge was incompetent.
@@LDiamondz The most that could've happened through the court would've been the judge issuing a temporary restraining order. It wouldn't have blocked her from buying the home -- just not living in it until the TRO expired. Permanent ROs are hard to get.
I have been diagnosed with GAD, adjustment disorder, and I suffer from insomnia. I don’t even have the energy to be angry most of the time. 😂 This lady scares me - she’s got a lot more going on than what her defense was claiming. I feel badly for her current neighbors. Can you imagine sharing a property line with such a loose cannon?!
Good afternoon Dr Grande. I feel sorry for the disabled daughter, but that woman was cruel and appalling behavior. I feel there are no stress, just one angry woman, who couldn't get what she wanted. I hope the young couple can finally get the peace and quiet life they needed . Thank you Dr Grande. Great topic
What the heck?? How does the mom of a disabled person have time for all of this hateful stuff, let alone WHY would she do so much of it to a couple innocent people?
And apparently she had a job with the county (!) hatred takes a lot of energy. This woman was not tired- she was wound-up. The magazine subscription purchases… where is all that additional money coming from? Might she be embezzling? Life is so stranger than fiction. 😳
They became her target. They were the physical representation of all life had/was/would deny her. She may have convinced herself that if she could just get that house everything would be ok… or at least one thing, since sooo much was wrong. I can imagine the reason she wasn’t sleeping was because she was dwelling on those thoughts. At some point she might have tried to “re-empower herself” with fantasies about her getting even… the more she obsessed about it, and the less she slept, the more possible it all seemed. Till she got caught. That’s just how I feel it could easily have gone. No idea
Regular people have murdered for love too remember, who knows what _you_ are capable of if you were ever severely thwarted or maybe humiliated, we're all apes after all.
@@TheVideoLounge Actually, our closest genetic relatives are pigs. Hence the reason why pig organs can be transplanted into humans with minimal rejection - and it’s possible to get a better match from a pig and it is other people.
She's a narcissist. Can't fix that. They care only about what THEY want and they never change. Their tactics just get more clever, as they reap the negative consequences of their sadistic behavior. I've known two, was married to one (horrubke 4 years!) and watched the other nearly destroy the lives of his wife and sons - my daughter and grandsons. He died of a drug overdose.
I haven’t slept more than 2-3 hours a night for the last 7 years due to horrible insomnia. I can barely focus some days enough to keep up normal life activities let alone finding time to harass anyone. She didn’t do this without an emotional payoff.
That sounds rough. I'm sure you've tried just about everything but check out Andrew Huberman's videos on sleep and the SleepTube channel. I swear by those relaxing sounds with different frequencies on SleepTube and Huberman is a Neurobiologist with a lot of scientific info that can help
Same... Insomnia and chronic pain. I'm constantly sleep deprived and it contributes to my early retirement due to disability; I couldn't remain organised and coherent so there is no way I'm buying her ability to do what she did due to sleep deprivation. I'd, at best, believe it if she just kept showing up to their home and crying whilst saying they were ruining her life. How did didn't get a harsher sentence is shocking.
Wow that first Judge was an idiot; if it were his Wife in that situation those charges would have not been dropped. This woman was a sick nut case who was probably going to be a danger to whoever even slightly upset her.
Why would it only be 10 years that she has to stay away from these people she terrorized!?!... Also it's a verifiable lie that she didn't know someone wouldn't show up after someone DID and then emailed her an out the failed attempts... TWICE. Can't believe they didn't put her away for longer and didn't keep the people safe for ever
@@LDiamondz Very true. She should have a restraining order for a distance MANY miles away. Those e mails where the guy showed up could have resulted in something WAY worse. Then she keeps e-mailing him to go back !! This woman is a vindictive menace that is probably very used to getting what she wants. Like the "Fatal Attraction" of the real estate world.
@@peggypeggy4137 I agree. The judge knew she would still be looking for a house. He could have added she couldn't buy a house within X number of miles from their house. I really wish she had gotten years in jail for this. Like you said, the woman could have been hurt badly. "There was consent for the s activity." Yeah, between the 2 guys and the stalker! That ruling made NO sense at all. She must have played the sympathy card. Wonder who she's harassing now? smh.
@@LDiamondz I saw somewhere in this comment section which said that she won "Mother of the Year Award", a few years earlier. That may have been due to the fact that she had a daughter with disabilities, which can takes a lot of strength and patience. (All those things that make a good parent). Unfortunately, she doesn't make a good person. I wonder if the fact that she had a disabled daughter and the logistics of her care, had something to do with the very light sentence.
@@peggypeggy4137 Yes, the judge probably took all of those things into consideration, when sentencing her. She may have been the best mother, but a horrible person. None of that should have led to such a light sentence, though. It didn't fit the crime. Perhaps the judge was thinking of the child? Being disabled, who would take care of her. If you have a disabled child who needs you, why would you do something like she did? She wasn't thinking of the child. This is a strange case.
Thank you for not giving the stalker a pass because of her life challenges. I watched the victims and the stalker on Dr. Phil and after her claim of sleep deprivation and her life stresses she was basically given sympathy and a degree of understanding. This was one of the last times I watched the show as I empathized with the couple and the terror they endured. I thought the stalker got off easy as she definitely deserved prison time.
Why can't we have sympathy for more than one group? I mean I can have empathy without justifying or being permissive. Isn't that the whole process that stops an individual from doing wrong?
I remember watching her being interviewed on some major network. This woman is absolutely ridiculous! She gave me serious killer vibes. Can’t wait to hear your view on her because she is a very scary person.
She should be in an apartment not a house. She’s a threat to her neighbors and I bet she’s waiting for her husband to die to pay off the house she’s in now.
This is the worst, most unsettling and disturbing incident I've ever heard: The Court would have been prudent to order one year in psychiatric facility
I kno right.... I skipped passed those videos 🙄..... Y on Earth would reading everything that was said ( basically) on the show be something ppl actually enjoy🤔😒? I clicked the video off so fast I had 4gotten about it until you mentioned it here 😄😄😄 .... LoL I totally understand why they have to read it to their viewer's, 🙄 however I'm not with all that .....
Ive had sleep insomnia my entire life since i was a young girl - While i admit that it makes you feel really off sometimes, ive never once considered doing anything remotely close to this sick to someone. This lady is just spoiled and weird.
When you're sleep deprived it feels like your brain is in a fog. She couldn't have planned all those things because of that. The woman though of everything! She knew what she was doing. How've you been doing, Bucket Head? ❤
@@yasuke9317 yes. I use an Indica (White Widow, or Mac, for appetite and sleep..) It helps more than drugs, because I can drive the next morning, and it helps me keep weight on. But, when I went thru decades of cyclic controlled chaos and had no hope of any real help - i still didn't do stuff like this lady did. Shes a scary weirdo, and sleep had nothing to do with this! Lol (I love taking a hit, having a snack and cold drink on my night table, with true crime stories in my cue, snd all three of my kitties laying on the bed all over me.. and falling asleep. Its a wish come true
@@BucketHeadianHagg Hey! You know, I should try using the 'Devil's lettuce' to help me sleep, too. It's probably the only thing I haven't tried. I'm doing ok. Hope you are, too. Love to you, and some extra hugs. ❤💚💙💜💛💟
This woman is mean, jealous, hateful and dangerous. Obviously, the "sleep deprivation" excuse is nonsense. But I accept that she is crazy. I loved your final sarcasm, Dr. Grande ;)
What a lame lawyer!! He probably charged her a Bunch too, since he realized she was willing to pay 100 grand over asking price for the house....he or she got 375 bucks/hour for that sleep deprivation idea, which probably more than 50% of all adults have on a normal/ongoing basis
@@gigi9301 true. My brother suffers from sleeping problems and he has the kindest heart. Those who have sleep deprivation can't focus too much. This woman had planned such an evil scenario.
@Mekehl Yeah, I'd like to hear more about why she did not get the house after offering 100 grand over asking price; what is the break down on that situation in the first place. Perhaps her anger was just misdirected and she should have been ordering magazines for the stupid real estate agent or title company?...Or just use that 100 G for a fantastic trip for herself and her daughter, then regroup...IDK. Being angry is so much Work!!
This. I mean, you're allowed to fall in love with a house or what the house looks like, but to obsess about it and then make things difficult for the new owners who bought it because they also fell in love with it is rather alarming behaviour. There are other houses that will look exactly like your dream house or have the same concept that you want, all you have to do is keep looking. One house falls through isn't the end of life for future homeowners.
Carmel Valley being an upscale neighborhood is an overstatement. However, it's a good place to raise your kids because most schools have the highest rating. There are tons of single-floor houses and something doesn't add up about how exactly Kathy Rowe was house-hunting by visiting a hundred open-houses. You don't need a real estate agent working for you to visit an open house, that's the whole point. Swimming pool is not a luxury in Carmel Valley, we were actually looking for a single-floor house without a pool and had difficulty finding one. She probably saw a house she liked but it could already have offers and then an offer was accepted and the sale was pending. She missed out. From there on, she went full psycho.
As someone that has a debilitating mental illness as well as having studied to become a clinical psychologist I find your videos really informative and interesting, and I can't wait for another episode every day, but what gets to me most is your sense of humour. I swear if sarcasm was a grain of sand, you'd be the Sahara desert. Thumbs up from me!
Dr. Grande, you seem to have a plethora of fascinating topics to examine. Her sentence seems so light, given, as you pointed out, her organized and methodical strategy. More videos please and ThankYou 👍❤️
How Evil ! She could have focused that energy in a positive way and had a home built EXACTLY like the one she lost or even better & in less time than she spent harassing (but I think it's more like terrorising) the poor couple. Great review Dr. Grande.
4:10 Wait, WHAT?!??!! 4:23 Oh, thank God! I know we can't diagnose the first judge, but can we speculate about what the heck was going on in his situation?! We GET that the men thought the emails were about consensual activity; THAT IS THE PROBLEM. The actual person who would have been the victim of said activity not only didn't consent; she wasn't even aware of the impending activity! So glad that was addressed through appeal.
Oh thank you, thank you for this second one of the day!! You don’t know how much I needed it, sitting hopefully in my recliner, headphones on, about to give up on finding something just right, after a minor burn--drawing a nonsensical oppositional uninformed comment re the Rittenhouse case. This gal is so ready for your dulcet tones to wash out the hurt. I haven’t even checked out your shirt yet. You been rocking some nice ones this week, dear. ❤️
Yes. How about Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy? Her “extremely disabled” daughter with over 150 appointments a year. Very good practice for the deception, lying, and manipulating required to pull off this kind of stalking. Also the ability to completely snow the psychologist. She also looked a little too pleased with herself-like she knows no one will ever really figure it out. She’s not done.
I like your award suggestions 😆. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your humour. It makes me feel better about my warped sense of humour! 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the content.
I watched the movie “Aftermath” which apparently wholesale borrowed from this true story for part of its storyline. In the movie, one family is trying to get another family to move out of a house and harasses them in the exact same way. Very weird…
❤️❤️❤️Love seeing a notification from you at this hour! Perfect timing, Dr. Grande! Wow, this lady was unbelievably relentless in her actions 😢 Those poor, innocent homebuyers…….so glad Kathy Rowe was stopped before driving them crazy. Thanks again for the post Dr. Grande!
I saw a piece on this quite a while ago, but it’s always stuck in my mind. It just seemed utterly unbelievable. Thanks for a story on it. edit: holy cow. I don’t even know what to say about the follow-up from when I heard about it. I cannot BELIEVE she got off on that rape charge. She purposely worded it as a RAPE, not just come on over, guys. Unbelievable. I’m gobsmacked. 🙈
That was so dangerous! Those men could have (don't think I can write the word on youtube) Janice thinking it was a roleplay. There is no excuse for Kathy.
Wtf....stalkers need to go to jail. Sometimes I wish I lived in the USA as things get taken serious in the courts. I've been stalked and harassed for 5+ years and doesn't look like its slowing down anytime soon. The woman is calculated, manipulating and deranged.
Get her in position she had no wiggle room. Then document how you have tried every legal avenue to keep her away from you. Never befriend or forgive, just stay away. If she approaches you again, you have all the permission to finally give her a permanent rest.
Horrible. It's a terrible feeling. I have been watched, accosted multiple times, monitored by an older woman who lives across the street! She has taken an unhealthy interest in me. I'm disgusted, angry, uncomfortable, feel invaded and vulnerable and she is only doing 1 percent of what these people went through. Stalking is an awful crime. No one has the right to invade anyone's privacy & autonomy.💀
This case really puzzles me. If she found that house, she could have easily found another one. She terrorized this couple, and then found a house a mile away from them? Talk about adding insult to injury! She knew exactly what she was doing, and that someone could get hurt. I don't believe a word she or the mental health professional says. She was too organized and did it for way too long. She should have been barred from buying a home that close to her victims. Thanks for the midnight video for your night owl crew! I hope you got some sleep! ❤
She could have! She had money. She offered to pay them more for the house than what they originally paid. It had to do with winning and her feeling slighted.
I live in San Diego, and I’ll bet that, if she lived only a mile away from that house, her house now is probably close to identical. So many of those developments are cookie cutter neighborhoods. After buying a house here in San Diego a couple of years ago, though, I can say that it is _hard_ to find a place. There is always tough competition between buyers, and there are a couple of places we lost that we were really interested in. That really sucked. We dealt with it by griping to each other for a while, then focusing on looking at more houses. I can’t believe that woman used all that energy to torment the family when she was seriously interested in buying a house. And supposedly sleep deprived. 🙄
@@mkuti-childress3625 Yes, when you're looking in a desirable area, there's going to be competition. When we bought our first house, we had to look at about 40 houses before we bought one. Like you, we made offers for quite a few, and were outbid. We were frustrated, a bit, and complained about it. Then just kept looking. It's not personal! It's a sale. This woman took it personally and really went off the deep end. I could never see myself doing any of the nonsense she did. Just keep looking! SMH.
You had me for a minute when she sent missionaries to the house (I did that to a close friend once), but my chuckles stopped after that. That poor couple
I remember watching this woman on the Dr Phil show and just being stunned and disgusted by her atrocious behaviour and the way she was trying to defend and excuse herself. She tried to mess up the lives of two people that were innocent and just bought a home, and instead of being able to celebrate this achievement, they were instead terrorised in their own home by somebody who was jealous and spiteful and just plain evil. She even sent men to terrorise the woman of the house and one had shown up at the home to try to force his way into the home because he thought that like her ad said, that she was playing hard to get. This woman is foul and I am happy that she was called out by the media and the public.
Sleep deprivation must improve Dr. Grande’s cognitive functioning because I can’t imagine he gets much sleep when producing videos at this unmatched pace! Two in one day… that is unusual behavior!
Never underestimate the need to redress real or perceived injustices. Wars have been fought over perceived slights. Be polite. Let it go if it is a lost cause.
I do not subscribe to magical thinking but… I sure am a fan of your content Dr. Grande! In case I forget to tell you a happy holiday season! You are so dedicated! 🤔❤️🇺🇸
If Kathy Rowe of San Diego had been a man, with a sick child and spouse, he would have spent time in jail. No question. She and those around her CONTINUE to excuse, blame, play the victim, and marginalize the hateful and potentially deadly harm she perpetrated on innocent people. She still deserves prison time. Apparently, the fine she paid was not enough! She was able to purchase a home and move less than a mile away from the family she tortured.
I'm not even 4 whole minutes in, & I feel compelled to pause the video to look through other comments & post one of own. So er, Wtf & Omfg(??!!) is all I find myself being able to say. If Kathy were a business, she could be known as "Re-vengeance is Mine Saith Kathleen". Seriously, that was some creative twisted shit. No wonder she was sleep deprived, sitting up nights dreaming up bent punishments & retribution to inflict on this poor couple. Can you imagine, if whatever she used to contact the couple had failed & they were never even aware of her desire to purchase their property?! Mind-boggling!
Wouldn’t you think if this lady were going to go BSC on someone it would’ve been to the seller of the house or her realtor? This couple had nothing to do with how and who’s bid was picked. She should’ve had to do real time for this, maybe the same amount of time she physiological abused them for
I am a true insomniac. I have had it for 23 years and my record is 10 days without sleep. My brother had the same insomnia as me and took his life in 2008. I have never, ever been spiteful in my day to day interaction. If anything insomnia has made me extremely compassionate. Kathy Rowe should have gone to prison for a long time! Those are hateful acts she did. Sleep deprivation is not a reason for hateful behavior.
One of the things I appreciate about you Dr. Grande is your humorous understatement. Seriously, stalking is a dangerous action in all it's elements.I believe that at the basis of stalking is obsession and obsessional thinking and behavior and deep desperation. Once someone feels they are being thwarted in their efforts to achieve something which they feel is necessary for their very existence, there's no telling where that could end. The stress of a disabled child can make one feel desperate and helpless. She probably feels she is a lifeline to her child. Stressors can break down the resistance to irrational thinking and actions. Lack of sleep is very difficult and can result in dire health consequences. BUT, it cannot be used as an excuse for an organized, onslaught of behavior which can lead to violence and death. Obsession, not letting go of something/someone, is very powerful. It takes on a life of its own. She needs treatment for her mental health and thinking. Vengefulness and contempt cannot be underestimated. Authorities should also take this stalking behavior very seriously. Great treatment of this case, Dr. Grande, as usual.
If she felt so desperate to help the child and be there for them always, her behavior would have focused on the child. NOT the two strangers who happened to buy the house she wanted.
'The John Edwards Psychic Medium Award' lol - we used to get his show over here in the UK years ago, but haven't heard about him in a long time now, I presume from this he's been outed for fraudulence or similar then ?
"Gets crazy" is my favorite clinical diagnosis. 😂 Edit: How did I miss this case right in my own city?! 😶 Thank you for covering the case and bringing me up to date.
My husband’s co-worker at a previous job did something like this. She went to a hook-up website for gay men and posed as my husband. She wrote a post soliciting a sexual encounter at his place of work. So, a random dude showed up at his office in response to the posting looking for him. She didn’t get in trouble because he couldn’t prove she did it. In fact, his boss completely blew the whole thing off. It was a toxic work environment and I’m glad he got out of there.
@@GravyGoodbread We never officially found out, but there was a lot of animosity between she and him. There was no one in our private lives that would have done something like that. Her body language was also very telling when he brought it up around her. Nothing came of it because, like I said, his asshole boss didn't follow up with anything. He basically told my husband to suck it up and drop the issue.
@@GravyGoodbread I should mention, the guy who came in knew to go in back of the office and where to find my husband. So, it had to have been done by someone who knew about the office layout.
This reminds me of that old Sharon stone movie, cold manor. Sharon and her husband buy an abandoned house only to find that the previous owner lost it when he went to jail. He begins harassing them and I forget how it ends. It’s just as well
We _all_ have a lot of stressors in our lives, but we don’t go around maliciously destroying the lives of an innocent family who were complete strangers. I always knew my clients very well when selling or purchasing in real estate, albeit I’m now retired. I made sure to get the home if there were multiple offers, and I knew my clients wanted it that badly. I prided myself on making people happy, and that showed in constant referrals. I’ll bet she lowballed the house, and then regretted her decision. Too bad. Live with it lady! To literally invite rape on a mother of two young children is the most heinous thing I’ve ever heard. I’ve known much tragedy and sorrow in my life . I took care of my gorgeous model mother who ultimately died of ovarian cancer at the age of 47. I was an only child, and my mother divorced when I was little, so it was just her and me. It only gave me more compassion for other people. What this woman did is who she is, because she premeditated events over the course of many months. She had plenty of opportunity to stop, but did not.
As a mother of two disabled children, I think you are completely forgetting her isolation, overwhelming amounts of appointments, lack of sleep, and worry she went through. What she did was wrong but to say she is evil is a bit much. She had serious daily chronic stressors, which could lead to psychosis and obsession.
No! This is the behavior of somebody with a serious personality defect. This is not simply a case of venting frustration. If a normal person were so overwhelmed, they would have NO ENERGY for this level of bollocks!
I really wonder what happens in a person's mind like this, regardless of life stress. A long time ago, my wife worked with a woman who lost her mind and thought we were 'meant to be together'. Told my wife and I she was pregnant by me and she was waiting for me to come get her, etc. Which would be a neat trick - I can't have kids of my own. Long story short: I'd never even met this person face to face. Apparently she saw me at the store once. Basically a nightmare of calls, emails, following, etc. Resorted to a restraining order that she kept breaking until she was finally arrested. I think she is still in a mental facility now. She was never even pregnant by anyone it turns out! Just so strange. I feel bad for her, but I always wondered - why me of all people? Why wasn't it somebody she knew at work, or someone she actually knew in her life? How can you be obsessed over someone you've never even met? I'm just a dude, not some rockstar.
Dr. Grande has discussed the common traits among people who become obsessive, and mental health problems seem to be key. Also, if I had guess, I'd say that it was easier for her to idealize someone she didn't know but found attractive. Of course, I'm only speculating.
Horrible. What that woman did was horrible and, as you said, "malicious". Then she found a lot of excuses for hersel, denying the depth of her doing. Poor couple!
Listening to this wonderfully succinct and erudite analysis, thanks as always, it occurred to me that our criminal justice system would make a giant leap forward if Dr Grande could explain any necessary psychological evaluation to the court. Imagine how helpful that would be for a jury. I bet it’s baffling trying to evaluate how a condition you don’t fully understand might impact upon a behaviour you don’t fully understand. Dr Grande could single-handedly ensure fairness for all, he just needs to become omnipotent! No pressure, Doc!😄👍
The fact that she did not go to prison shows that the court system is totally corrupt. She is truly evil and the judge who gave her such a light sentence is an idiot.
The headline reminded me of a UA-cam series of videos about new homeowners receiving harassing letters from unknowns who claimed the house was actually set to be inherited by the perpetrators. I don’t recall the details.
Wow I had never heard of this before. It sounds like Kathy absolutely wanted the man to attack and sexually assault Janice. She went as far as to say for him to continue with the act even if she was saying no. That is horrible.
She's really twisted. I feel sorry for her daughter, and her neighbors.
For a person to be able to continue with that level of hatred for that length of time is terrifying, if she hadn't been caught I think she would have just escalated her behaviour, I think she could have been capable of murder.
There are malicious people like this woman, sad but true
@@cht2162 Yes, individuals like this DO kill the spirit of some. This in addition to turning to murder in certain situations.
I'm not sure murder is necessarily a likely progress for such a pattern, but it leaves me wondering what other sorts of manipulative/coercive/abusive behaviors she might have done in the past that never were made public to a comparable extent. I'd imagine it would be somewhat more of a pattern (and this case hopefully its extreme), to some degree, rather than a one-time thing that came completely out of nowhere.
I don't know if she would have done it herself but I can see her manipulating someone else into doing it.
How could Kathy's solicitations be consensual? SHE'S not the one who has to give consent here. There's a third party here that was NEVER ASKED FOR THEIR CONSENT and that's the only part that should matter. What the heck was that judge thinking?!
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It sounds like he wasn't thinking at all. That was the worst thing she did. Then, she buys a house just a mile away from them? That's so wrong, too. The judge was incompetent.
She sounds like a psychopath. Absolutely inexcusable behaviour, she needs therapy in a safe place, not a year in an ankle bracelet.
@@LDiamondz The most that could've happened through the court would've been the judge issuing a temporary restraining order. It wouldn't have blocked her from buying the home -- just not living in it until the TRO expired. Permanent ROs are hard to get.
I have been diagnosed with GAD, adjustment disorder, and I suffer from insomnia. I don’t even have the energy to be angry most of the time. 😂
This lady scares me - she’s got a lot more going on than what her defense was claiming. I feel badly for her current neighbors. Can you imagine sharing a property line with such a loose cannon?!
Good afternoon Dr Grande. I feel sorry for the disabled daughter, but that woman was cruel and appalling behavior. I feel there are no stress, just one angry woman, who couldn't get what she wanted. I hope the young couple can finally get the peace and quiet life they needed . Thank you Dr Grande. Great topic
What the heck?? How does the mom of a disabled person have time for all of this hateful stuff, let alone WHY would she do so much of it to a couple innocent people?
And apparently she had a job with the county (!) hatred takes a lot of energy. This woman was not tired- she was wound-up. The magazine subscription purchases… where is all that additional money coming from? Might she be embezzling? Life is so stranger than fiction. 😳
They became her target. They were the physical representation of all life had/was/would deny her. She may have convinced herself that if she could just get that house everything would be ok… or at least one thing, since sooo much was wrong. I can imagine the reason she wasn’t sleeping was because she was dwelling on those thoughts. At some point she might have tried to “re-empower herself” with fantasies about her getting even… the more she obsessed about it, and the less she slept, the more possible it all seemed. Till she got caught. That’s just how I feel it could easily have gone. No idea
Regular people have murdered for love too remember, who knows what _you_ are capable of if you were ever severely thwarted or maybe humiliated, we're all apes after all.
@@TheVideoLounge Actually, our closest genetic relatives are pigs. Hence the reason why pig organs can be transplanted into humans with minimal rejection - and it’s possible to get a better match from a pig and it is other people.
@@ArtU4All My understanding was she used cards in magazines to subscribe them, so no money was required upfront.
When harassing someone feels good for you, you need some deep therapy.
I am honestly not sure therapy Will alleviate anything in cases like this.
She's a narcissist. Can't fix that. They care only about what THEY want and they never change. Their tactics just get more clever, as they reap the negative consequences of their sadistic behavior. I've known two, was married to one (horrubke 4 years!) and watched the other nearly destroy the lives of his wife and sons - my daughter and grandsons. He died of a drug overdose.
I haven’t slept more than 2-3 hours a night for the last 7 years due to horrible insomnia. I can barely focus some days enough to keep up normal life activities let alone finding time to harass anyone. She didn’t do this without an emotional payoff.
That sounds awful I hope you can find something to help you sleep!
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That sounds rough. I'm sure you've tried just about everything but check out Andrew Huberman's videos on sleep and the SleepTube channel. I swear by those relaxing sounds with different frequencies on SleepTube and Huberman is a Neurobiologist with a lot of scientific info that can help
Same... Insomnia and chronic pain. I'm constantly sleep deprived and it contributes to my early retirement due to disability; I couldn't remain organised and coherent so there is no way I'm buying her ability to do what she did due to sleep deprivation. I'd, at best, believe it if she just kept showing up to their home and crying whilst saying they were ruining her life. How did didn't get a harsher sentence is shocking.
I have insomnia but not that bad. 😳
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves"
~Confucius~
Yes, that's a true statement. Confucius was right about many things!
Confucius said a lot of dope stuff 😎
"I am not diagnosing anyone in this video"- Also Confucius 😁
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Erik - Always thought-provoking!🤔
Wow that first Judge was an idiot; if it were his Wife in that situation those charges would have not been dropped. This woman was a sick nut case who was probably going to be a danger to whoever even slightly upset her.
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Absolutely!
Why would it only be 10 years that she has to stay away from these people she terrorized!?!...
Also it's a verifiable lie that she didn't know someone wouldn't show up after someone DID and then emailed her an out the failed attempts... TWICE. Can't believe they didn't put her away for longer and didn't keep the people safe for ever
True. I don't believe a word she says. AND she bought a house just a mile away from these people! That should not have been allowed.
@@LDiamondz Very true. She should have a restraining order for a distance MANY miles away. Those e mails where the guy showed up could have resulted in something WAY worse. Then she keeps e-mailing him to go back !! This woman is a vindictive menace that is probably very used to getting what she wants. Like the "Fatal Attraction" of the real estate world.
@@peggypeggy4137 I agree. The judge knew she would still be looking for a house. He could have added she couldn't buy a house within X number of miles from their house. I really wish she had gotten years in jail for this. Like you said, the woman could have been hurt badly. "There was consent for the s activity." Yeah, between the 2 guys and the stalker! That ruling made NO sense at all. She must have played the sympathy card. Wonder who she's harassing now? smh.
@@LDiamondz I saw somewhere in this comment section which said that she won "Mother of the Year Award", a few years earlier. That may have been due to the fact that she had a daughter with disabilities, which can takes a lot of strength and patience. (All those things that make a good parent). Unfortunately, she doesn't make a good person. I wonder if the fact that she had a disabled daughter and the logistics of her care, had something to do with the very light sentence.
@@peggypeggy4137 Yes, the judge probably took all of those things into consideration, when sentencing her. She may have been the best mother, but a horrible person. None of that should have led to such a light sentence, though. It didn't fit the crime. Perhaps the judge was thinking of the child? Being disabled, who would take care of her. If you have a disabled child who needs you, why would you do something like she did? She wasn't thinking of the child. This is a strange case.
Thank you for not giving the stalker a pass because of her life challenges. I watched the victims and the stalker on Dr. Phil and after her claim of sleep deprivation and her life stresses she was basically given sympathy and a degree of understanding. This was one of the last times I watched the show as I empathized with the couple and the terror they endured. I thought the stalker got off easy as she definitely deserved prison time.
Life in the nut house…..
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I stopped watching the Dr. Phil show for those reasons.
@@carolbenson6524 When he comforted the woman who slept with his own biological son I felt sick. Because anyone could see her tears were manipulative.
Why can't we have sympathy for more than one group? I mean I can have empathy without justifying or being permissive. Isn't that the whole process that stops an individual from doing wrong?
I remember watching her being interviewed on some major network. This woman is absolutely ridiculous! She gave me serious killer vibes. Can’t wait to hear your view on her because she is a very scary person.
Yep. I saw her on Dr Phil and felt the same way.
She should be in an apartment not a house. She’s a threat to her neighbors and I bet she’s waiting for her husband to die to pay off the house she’s in now.
"Justareminderimnotdiagnosinganyoneinthisvideo" The longest word on UA-cam! Lol, I 💜 you Dr. Grande!
That would make a cool t-shirt lol
@@karmeluful Or an email address 😂 --But seriously, tee shirt is a great idea 👍
@@karmeluful Then on the back-"ooonlyspeculatingaboutwhatcouldbehappeninginasituationlikethis."
Yeah I laugh every time, he probably has to say that or he could get sued.
@@watermelonwishes4193 Yes! Wonderful idea! 💡👏❤
Why am I not surprised that she worked for the county?
The amount of time she spent of harassing she could fine a right house. This is obsession in sick way
This is terrifying. Thank God she was caught.
But mostly, thanks to Police.
Yes, but then she moved to a house only a mile away from them. I'd sleep with one eye opening, if it was me!
And given 1 year of house arrest...
@@kevinsargent Yes, and a mile away. Unbelievable.
And not only that she went to their house with her child on Halloween and acted like she wasn't stalking them.
This is the worst, most unsettling and disturbing incident I've ever heard: The Court would have been prudent to order one year in psychiatric facility
No. This menace should have been behind bars for ten years, at least.
I used to get this case confused with the "watcher" case. Which is unsolved. Happy to have a video about this that doesn't contain Dr. Phil.😁
I kno right.... I skipped passed those videos 🙄..... Y on Earth would reading everything that was said ( basically) on the show be something ppl actually enjoy🤔😒? I clicked the video off so fast I had 4gotten about it until you mentioned it here 😄😄😄 .... LoL
I totally understand why they have to read it to their viewer's, 🙄 however I'm not with all that .....
Omg the watcher case is so terrifying!!! The podcast “Strange and Unexplained” with Daisy Eagan has a really great episode about it.
The Watcher case is fascinating!
Adjustment Disorder?? As if.
The Watcher is less scary than a woman using men to actually attempting the rape of another woman. This case is horrible and disgusting.
Ive had sleep insomnia my entire life since i was a young girl - While i admit that it makes you feel really off sometimes, ive never once considered doing anything remotely close to this sick to someone. This lady is just spoiled and weird.
When you're sleep deprived it feels like your brain is in a fog. She couldn't have planned all those things because of that. The woman though of everything! She knew what she was doing. How've you been doing, Bucket Head? ❤
@@LDiamondz oh hey, whats up Diamondz! You KNOW I'm sending love your way, my friend!
Have you tried Medicinal marijuana? Puts me to sleep.
@@yasuke9317 yes. I use an Indica (White Widow, or Mac, for appetite and sleep..) It helps more than drugs, because I can drive the next morning, and it helps me keep weight on. But, when I went thru decades of cyclic controlled chaos and had no hope of any real help - i still didn't do stuff like this lady did. Shes a scary weirdo, and sleep had nothing to do with this! Lol
(I love taking a hit, having a snack and cold drink on my night table, with true crime stories in my cue, snd all three of my kitties laying on the bed all over me.. and falling asleep. Its a wish come true
@@BucketHeadianHagg Hey! You know, I should try using the 'Devil's lettuce' to help me sleep, too. It's probably the only thing I haven't tried. I'm doing ok. Hope you are, too. Love to you, and some extra hugs. ❤💚💙💜💛💟
This woman is mean, jealous, hateful and dangerous. Obviously, the "sleep deprivation" excuse is nonsense. But I accept that she is crazy. I loved your final sarcasm, Dr. Grande ;)
What a lame lawyer!! He probably charged her a Bunch too, since he realized she was willing to pay 100 grand over asking price for the house....he or she got 375 bucks/hour for that sleep deprivation idea, which probably more than 50% of all adults have on a normal/ongoing basis
@@gigi9301 true. My brother suffers from sleeping problems and he has the kindest heart. Those who have sleep deprivation can't focus too much. This woman had planned such an evil scenario.
@Mekehl Yeah, I'd like to hear more about why she did not get the house after offering 100 grand over asking price; what is the break down on that situation in the first place. Perhaps her anger was just misdirected and she should have been ordering magazines for the stupid real estate agent or title company?...Or just use that 100 G for a fantastic trip for herself and her daughter, then regroup...IDK. Being angry is so much Work!!
When I can't sleep, Dr. Grande comes through. Thank you.
1st lesson of house-hunting: don’t let yourself obsess on any one single home, as it may be purchased by another first.
This. I mean, you're allowed to fall in love with a house or what the house looks like, but to obsess about it and then make things difficult for the new owners who bought it because they also fell in love with it is rather alarming behaviour. There are other houses that will look exactly like your dream house or have the same concept that you want, all you have to do is keep looking. One house falls through isn't the end of life for future homeowners.
Carmel Valley being an upscale neighborhood is an overstatement. However, it's a good place to raise your kids because most schools have the highest rating. There are tons of single-floor houses and something doesn't add up about how exactly Kathy Rowe was house-hunting by visiting a hundred open-houses.
You don't need a real estate agent working for you to visit an open house, that's the whole point.
Swimming pool is not a luxury in Carmel Valley, we were actually looking for a single-floor house without a pool and had difficulty finding one.
She probably saw a house she liked but it could already have offers and then an offer was accepted and the sale was pending. She missed out. From there on, she went full psycho.
As someone that has a debilitating mental illness as well as having studied to become a clinical psychologist I find your videos really informative and interesting, and I can't wait for another episode every day, but what gets to me most is your sense of humour. I swear if sarcasm was a grain of sand, you'd be the Sahara desert. Thumbs up from me!
2006, she's one of San Diego's "Best Mom" award winners. In 2011 this. I guess absolute power really does corrupt absolutely.
Didn’t gypsie rose blanchards mom get the same award -
Dr. Grande, you seem to have a plethora of fascinating topics to examine. Her sentence seems so light, given, as you pointed out, her organized and methodical strategy. More videos please and ThankYou 👍❤️
How Evil !
She could have focused that energy in a positive way and had a home built EXACTLY like the one she lost or even better & in less time than she spent harassing (but I think it's more like terrorising) the poor couple.
Great review Dr. Grande.
4:10 Wait, WHAT?!??!! 4:23 Oh, thank God!
I know we can't diagnose the first judge, but can we speculate about what the heck was going on in his situation?! We GET that the men thought the emails were about consensual activity; THAT IS THE PROBLEM. The actual person who would have been the victim of said activity not only didn't consent; she wasn't even aware of the impending activity! So glad that was addressed through appeal.
Oh thank you, thank you for this second one of the day!! You don’t know how much I needed it, sitting hopefully in my recliner, headphones on, about to give up on finding something just right, after a minor burn--drawing a nonsensical oppositional uninformed comment re the Rittenhouse case. This gal is so ready for your dulcet tones to wash out the hurt. I haven’t even checked out your shirt yet. You been rocking some nice ones this week, dear. ❤️
I agree. Been following the Rittenhouse case too. This video was a pleasant diversion.
An old Etruscan proverb says, "Where bug is, bugs are." Generally speaking, when behavior goes beyond a certain point, I'd look for prior instances.
Yeah! In the case of a stalker, you need to scan your home thoroughly for the electronic sorts of bugs!
@@dianefarley37 Right. That too. It takes special equipment, and you need enhanced anti-virus software for your compooter, as well.
Yes. How about Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy? Her “extremely disabled” daughter with over 150 appointments a year. Very good practice for the deception, lying, and manipulating required to pull off this kind of stalking. Also the ability to completely snow the psychologist. She also looked a little too pleased with herself-like she knows no one will ever really figure it out. She’s not done.
I like your award suggestions 😆. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your humour. It makes me feel better about my warped sense of humour! 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the content.
I think a warped sense of humor is required on this channel. It certainly helps! 😆
I watched the movie “Aftermath” which apparently wholesale borrowed from this true story for part of its storyline. In the movie, one family is trying to get another family to move out of a house and harasses them in the exact same way. Very weird…
❤️❤️❤️Love seeing a notification from you at this hour! Perfect timing, Dr. Grande! Wow, this lady was unbelievably relentless in her actions 😢 Those poor, innocent homebuyers…….so glad Kathy Rowe was stopped before driving them crazy. Thanks again for the post Dr. Grande!
I saw a piece on this quite a while ago, but it’s always stuck in my mind. It just seemed utterly unbelievable. Thanks for a story on it. edit: holy cow. I don’t even know what to say about the follow-up from when I heard about it. I cannot BELIEVE she got off on that rape charge. She purposely worded it as a RAPE, not just come on over, guys. Unbelievable. I’m gobsmacked. 🙈
That was so dangerous! Those men could have (don't think I can write the word on youtube) Janice thinking it was a roleplay. There is no excuse for Kathy.
Another award that would be synonymous with the best or worst mother award would be the Norman Bates Loving & Conscientious Son Award.
Wtf....stalkers need to go to jail. Sometimes I wish I lived in the USA as things get taken serious in the courts. I've been stalked and harassed for 5+ years and doesn't look like its slowing down anytime soon.
The woman is calculated, manipulating and deranged.
Get her in position she had no wiggle room. Then document how you have tried every legal avenue to keep her away from you. Never befriend or forgive, just stay away. If she approaches you again, you have all the permission to finally give her a permanent rest.
... oh. You think this gets taken seriously in the US courts.
This case happened in the USA. Stalking doesn't get taken seriously by law enforcement until the stalker commits a crime against their victim.
Horrible. It's a terrible feeling. I have been watched, accosted multiple times, monitored by an older woman who lives across the street! She has taken an unhealthy interest in me. I'm disgusted, angry, uncomfortable, feel invaded and vulnerable and she is only doing 1 percent of what these people went through. Stalking is an awful crime. No one has the right to invade anyone's privacy & autonomy.💀
I cannot imagine what this couple has gone through. I would move as far away from this woman as possible.
Ikr? The woman bought a house only a mile away from them! Yikes!
She should’ve spent several months in jail, minimally. Home confinement is no punishment.
The theoretical awards ceremony at the ending had us truly LOL 😂
The Kathy Rowe Award... how inspirational 😄 Much appreciation as always Dr Grande 🌵
This case really puzzles me. If she found that house, she could have easily found another one. She terrorized this couple, and then found a house a mile away from them? Talk about adding insult to injury! She knew exactly what she was doing, and that someone could get hurt. I don't believe a word she or the mental health professional says. She was too organized and did it for way too long. She should have been barred from buying a home that close to her victims.
Thanks for the midnight video for your night owl crew! I hope you got some sleep! ❤
She could have! She had money. She offered to pay them more for the house than what they originally paid. It had to do with winning and her feeling slighted.
I live in San Diego, and I’ll bet that, if she lived only a mile away from that house, her house now is probably close to identical. So many of those developments are cookie cutter neighborhoods.
After buying a house here in San Diego a couple of years ago, though, I can say that it is _hard_ to find a place. There is always tough competition between buyers, and there are a couple of places we lost that we were really interested in. That really sucked. We dealt with it by griping to each other for a while, then focusing on looking at more houses. I can’t believe that woman used all that energy to torment the family when she was seriously interested in buying a house. And supposedly sleep deprived. 🙄
@@mkuti-childress3625 Yes, when you're looking in a desirable area, there's going to be competition. When we bought our first house, we had to look at about 40 houses before we bought one. Like you, we made offers for quite a few, and were outbid. We were frustrated, a bit, and complained about it. Then just kept looking. It's not personal! It's a sale. This woman took it personally and really went off the deep end. I could never see myself doing any of the nonsense she did. Just keep looking! SMH.
"Jodi Arias safe girlfriend award." I'm wheezing lol
I was waiting for Dr Grande to add "the Nobel Peace Prize".
Thank you for the late night upload, Dr. Grande 💜
When I was sleep deprived due to stress, I had hallucinations and was not able to think straight, but to think of something so devious even less
Dry, stark, delivery of good humor is always a +++!!
Dr. Grande has a compelling way of telling stories that are hard to listen to - this was one of them
You had me for a minute when she sent missionaries to the house (I did that to a close friend once), but my chuckles stopped after that. That poor couple
Dr. Grande, You're Very Calming to me. Thank You!🤗☺️ Love your "awards"!
I wish I had her energy and dedication for this and apply it to literally ANYTHING else
I remember watching this woman on the Dr Phil show and just being stunned and disgusted by her atrocious behaviour and the way she was trying to defend and excuse herself. She tried to mess up the lives of two people that were innocent and just bought a home, and instead of being able to celebrate this achievement, they were instead terrorised in their own home by somebody who was jealous and spiteful and just plain evil. She even sent men to terrorise the woman of the house and one had shown up at the home to try to force his way into the home because he thought that like her ad said, that she was playing hard to get.
This woman is foul and I am happy that she was called out by the media and the public.
Sleep deprivation must improve Dr. Grande’s cognitive functioning because I can’t imagine he gets much sleep when producing videos at this unmatched pace! Two in one day… that is unusual behavior!
I'm so sorry but I laughed all the way through this. That woman was amazingly creative in her harassment. Wow, just wow.
Grande finally speculating on a situation that could be like the Carmel Valley Freakshow!
Congratulations on 900K Dr Grande!
Wow.. Thanks the videos today are both interesting and I never heard of them.. Keep up the good work
This is a great topic for analysis. Thank you.
Omg clinician opened the case and was like "yep she crazy"
Never underestimate the need to redress real or perceived injustices.
Wars have been fought over perceived slights.
Be polite.
Let it go if it is a lost cause.
Wish there was a "Dr. Grandes best dry humour on you tube award" this vid wins it 🥰
Well, there’s a plot for a Lifetime movie.
Kathy is scary, she would literally go to any lengths to get what she wants.
Dr.Grande, I thought I had heard it all. Very interesting video, thank you.
I do not subscribe to magical thinking but… I sure am a fan of your content Dr. Grande! In case I forget to tell you a happy holiday season! You are so dedicated! 🤔❤️🇺🇸
If Kathy Rowe of San Diego had been a man, with a sick child and spouse, he would have spent time in jail. No question. She and those around her CONTINUE to excuse, blame, play the victim, and marginalize the hateful and potentially deadly harm she perpetrated on innocent people. She still deserves prison time. Apparently, the fine she paid was not enough! She was able to purchase a home and move less than a mile away from the family she tortured.
I'm not even 4 whole minutes in, & I feel compelled to pause the video to look through other comments & post one of own. So er, Wtf & Omfg(??!!) is all I find myself being able to say. If Kathy were a business, she could be known as "Re-vengeance is Mine Saith Kathleen". Seriously, that was some creative twisted shit. No wonder she was sleep deprived, sitting up nights dreaming up bent punishments & retribution to inflict on this poor couple. Can you imagine, if whatever she used to contact the couple had failed & they were never
even aware of her desire to purchase their property?! Mind-boggling!
Late night Dr. Grande video! Yay. Thanks Doc, its a good way to unwind. ❤️ I've never heard of this case 😳 how bizarre
Wouldn’t you think if this lady were going to go BSC on someone it would’ve been to the seller of the house or her realtor? This couple had nothing to do with how and who’s bid was picked. She should’ve had to do real time for this, maybe the same amount of time she physiological abused them for
She wanted them to be scared and leave. Whoever who had won the bid would have gotten the exact same treatment.
I strongly suspect she had more than one real estate agent. Most agents would have dropped her after she'd seen 15 to 20 homes, max.
Back on pastel Dr Grande! Love it 😍🇬🇧
I am a true insomniac. I have had it for 23 years and my record is 10 days without sleep. My brother had the same insomnia as me and took his life in 2008. I have never, ever been spiteful in my day to day interaction. If anything insomnia has made me extremely compassionate. Kathy Rowe should have gone to prison for a long time! Those are hateful acts she did. Sleep deprivation is not a reason for hateful behavior.
Those awards! Fabulous Dr. G!
Dr Grande is SAVAGE and I’m here for it! 😂
One of the things I appreciate about you Dr. Grande is your humorous understatement. Seriously, stalking is a dangerous action in all it's elements.I believe that at the basis of stalking is obsession and obsessional thinking and behavior and deep desperation. Once someone feels they are being thwarted in their efforts to achieve something which they feel is necessary for their very existence, there's no telling where that could end. The stress of a disabled child can make one feel desperate and helpless. She probably feels she is a lifeline to her child. Stressors can break down the resistance to irrational thinking and actions. Lack of sleep is very difficult and can result in dire health consequences. BUT, it cannot be used as an excuse for an organized, onslaught of behavior which can lead to violence and death. Obsession, not letting go of something/someone, is very powerful. It takes on a life of its own. She needs treatment for her mental health and thinking. Vengefulness and contempt cannot be underestimated. Authorities should also take this stalking behavior very seriously. Great treatment of this case, Dr. Grande, as usual.
If she felt so desperate to help the child and be there for them always, her behavior would have focused on the child. NOT the two strangers who happened to buy the house she wanted.
Dr Grande
You are a hoot!
More Videos, Please; Dr. Grande. Can't get enough!
'The John Edwards Psychic Medium Award' lol - we used to get his show over here in the UK years ago, but haven't heard about him in a long time now, I presume from this he's been outed for fraudulence or similar then ?
"Gets crazy" is my favorite clinical diagnosis. 😂
Edit: How did I miss this case right in my own city?! 😶 Thank you for covering the case and bringing me up to date.
Do you live under a rock? This case got NATIONAL attention, was even on the Dr. Phil show. I live in Florida and had heard about it for years.
@@brucejohnson9696 apparently so
@@sdsurfgirl60 The ocean and 🏄 surfing are better ways to spend your time than following the news anyway.
what a morning. two vids from Dr G
Haven’t watched yet but I know I like it 👍
My husband’s co-worker at a previous job did something like this. She went to a hook-up website for gay men and posed as my husband. She wrote a post soliciting a sexual encounter at his place of work. So, a random dude showed up at his office in response to the posting looking for him. She didn’t get in trouble because he couldn’t prove she did it. In fact, his boss completely blew the whole thing off. It was a toxic work environment and I’m glad he got out of there.
How did they find out who did it and why did they do it?
@@GravyGoodbread We never officially found out, but there was a lot of animosity between she and him. There was no one in our private lives that would have done something like that. Her body language was also very telling when he brought it up around her. Nothing came of it because, like I said, his asshole boss didn't follow up with anything. He basically told my husband to suck it up and drop the issue.
@@GravyGoodbread I should mention, the guy who came in knew to go in back of the office and where to find my husband. So, it had to have been done by someone who knew about the office layout.
You know you've watched too many of these videos when you understana all the award references at the end. Bravo
This reminds me of that old Sharon stone movie, cold manor. Sharon and her husband buy an abandoned house only to find that the previous owner lost it when he went to jail. He begins harassing them and I forget how it ends. It’s just as well
We _all_ have a lot of stressors in our lives, but we don’t go around maliciously destroying the lives of an innocent family who were complete strangers.
I always knew my clients very well when selling or purchasing in real estate, albeit I’m now retired.
I made sure to get the home if there were multiple offers, and I knew my clients wanted it that badly. I prided myself on making people happy, and that showed in constant referrals.
I’ll bet she lowballed the house, and then regretted her decision. Too bad. Live with it lady!
To literally invite rape on a mother of two young children is the most heinous thing I’ve ever heard.
I’ve known much tragedy and sorrow in my life . I took care of my gorgeous model mother who ultimately died of ovarian cancer at the age of 47. I was an only child, and my mother divorced when I was little, so it was just her and me. It only gave me more compassion for other people.
What this woman did is who she is, because she premeditated events over the course of many months. She had plenty of opportunity to stop, but did not.
Thank you very much for your analysis of this woman's outrageous behaviour. I cannot feel pity for Cathy.
Thank you!
Your upload rate is astounding
As a mother of two disabled children, I think you are completely forgetting her isolation, overwhelming amounts of appointments, lack of sleep, and worry she went through. What she did was wrong but to say she is evil is a bit much. She had serious daily chronic stressors, which could lead to psychosis and obsession.
No! This is the behavior of somebody with a serious personality defect. This is not simply a case of venting frustration. If a normal person were so overwhelmed, they would have NO ENERGY for this level of bollocks!
Disagree Diane. It's hard to understand something you haven't gone through.
I really wonder what happens in a person's mind like this, regardless of life stress. A long time ago, my wife worked with a woman who lost her mind and thought we were 'meant to be together'. Told my wife and I she was pregnant by me and she was waiting for me to come get her, etc. Which would be a neat trick - I can't have kids of my own.
Long story short: I'd never even met this person face to face. Apparently she saw me at the store once. Basically a nightmare of calls, emails, following, etc. Resorted to a restraining order that she kept breaking until she was finally arrested. I think she is still in a mental facility now. She was never even pregnant by anyone it turns out! Just so strange. I feel bad for her, but I always wondered - why me of all people? Why wasn't it somebody she knew at work, or someone she actually knew in her life? How can you be obsessed over someone you've never even met? I'm just a dude, not some rockstar.
A dude with the kavorka. The lure of the animal.
Dr. Grande has discussed the common traits among people who become obsessive, and mental health problems seem to be key. Also, if I had guess, I'd say that it was easier for her to idealize someone she didn't know but found attractive.
Of course, I'm only speculating.
@@markbryant4641 lol. Yeah well, what can I say. We were a lot younger back then.
@@MandrakeDCR I hear that.
Projection of the animus.
Horrible. What that woman did was horrible and, as you said, "malicious". Then she found a lot of excuses for hersel, denying the depth of her doing. Poor couple!
I laughed more at the end of this video than any of Dr Grande’s other videos 😂
Thanks, Doc.
What she did was absolutely extremely dangerous and vile for her victim, but you did have me laughing at the end there! 😄
So glad I saw this video
Listening to this wonderfully succinct and erudite analysis, thanks as always, it occurred to me that our criminal justice system would make a giant leap forward if Dr Grande could explain any necessary psychological evaluation to the court. Imagine how helpful that would be for a jury. I bet it’s baffling trying to evaluate how a condition you don’t fully understand might impact upon a behaviour you don’t fully understand. Dr Grande could single-handedly ensure fairness for all, he just needs to become omnipotent! No pressure, Doc!😄👍
As always, I laughed my head off at those awards lol
The fact that she did not go to prison shows that the court system is totally corrupt. She is truly evil and the judge who gave her such a light sentence is an idiot.
I saw her interviewed on Dr. Phil. It was obvious she had zero remorse for her actions. I’m stunned by her lack of punishment.
The headline reminded me of a UA-cam series of videos about new homeowners receiving harassing letters from unknowns who claimed the house was actually set to be inherited by the perpetrators. I don’t recall the details.
That was the absolute, best ending punctuation I have ever heard. The deserts of Arizona send love and peace to you.✌️ out boyscout ❗