They weren’t prevented. They were discouraged. Personal responsibility is good. As an adult you make decisions of whom or what to follow. If they were minors it would be different.
A little note- Danny didn’t join Scientology after he was a celebrity. He was born into the church, and groomed to be a celebrity. My guess is that fuelled a deep, deep narcissism.
“If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion.”- L. Ron Hubbard, as quoted in a1980 Reader's Digest.
The reality from the beginning man touched earth. They know in order to makes tons of money is to make people believe in religion. People are never going to be upset with religion. These is why religion is being preached all over. Religion was made by men to keep people in their place.
The Office, Creed - "I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader."
I do too!! I live about 5 miles from the Int'l Base/Golden Era productions. And I understand. There are only 5 or 6 roads that leave town (one over a mountain) & it's AT LEAST 1/2 an hour to a major fwy. Do you watch Aaron Smith-Levin/Growing Up In Scientology?
Celebs in Scientology have a different experience than everyone else, he knew the church would encourage them not to report anything. The fact the LA cops are paid off by Scientology doesn’t help.
the Church of Scientology will probably drop Danny Masterson like a hot potato, if they haven't already. He was only of use to the Scientologists when he had celebrity status
It seems the “church” of Scientology ought to be able to be sued as accomplices to masterson. How can the Catholic Church be sued for protecting abusers but not Scientology church???
I don't attach any weight to the fact that Masterson's wife filed for divorce days after his sentencing. That may just be a way of shifting assets out of the reach of victims who are now free to file claims for civil damages. His family are very tight-knit, with his wife, mother, and all siblings members of Scientology. If they all remain close, the divorce may not mean much of any substance.
@@MrsDAllan62The trust would not have included the majority of his money and assets though, would it? Also after being convicted, which he probably did not think would happen, would he be allowed to go in and just transfer assets like that?
This case really deminstrates that rape is about the power and control much more than the sex. When Masterson committed his crimes--the ones we know about, anyway--he was a young, wealthy, attractive, reasonably famous actor. In short, he was a man at the height of his attractiveness to women, and that attractiveness was considerably greater than most men could ever hope for. If the dude wasn't knee-deep in women then surely could have been if he'd wanted to be--getting more ass than a toliet seat, to borrow an evocative if indelicate phrase. And surely at least some of those women would have been game for whatever proclivities Masterson was into, inlcuding rape fantasies and/or having sex with an unconscious person. Masterson could have had any consensual experience he'd wanted, but there's the rub: he wanted to indulge his power fantasy by having the experience without the consent. And because he was a member in good standing of a creepy little cult, which, like all high control religions (or "religions," as the case may be) provide a structure seemingly tailor-made to protect predators, Masterson felt empowered to do as he pleased.
Rape is always about power and control over sex. If its regular sex there is no sexual excitement in gaining control over someone else to violate them. In regular sex thats abhorrant.
Well, I don't see how the heck he was "attractive". 🙄 He comes across as a complete a-hole and entitled. Never liked him. Glad that he finally has to pay the piper.
@@petert2481 You're wrong. Those victims reported the rape when it happened. It was covered up and they were told to shut up. At least one even went to the police but the cult was protecting him. One of the victims was his live-in gf at the time of the rapes so, he could've had consent. However, he CHOSE to drug her and rape her because he liked it. OP is absolutely correct.
@@duraniegal79they didn't know that at the time. Statistically he likely has at least 1 doppelganger and that person could be the exact opposite. That person would be more attractive
There have been many more women who have been assaulted by Danny. He's a serial rapist that's been protected by the "church" of scientology which he is still a member in good standing.
It started small, scientology let him get away with the trivial which then escalated as Danny faced no consequences and instead was met with praise. I think much of the truth is still being covered up, scientology is truly one of the most evil groups
Who is sicker, Scientologists or the society that doesn’t quash them completely? You can’t even be one in Germany, due to their bad experience with “parallel societies.”
Germany is an authoritarian hellhole. In America, we accept personal responsibility for our actions. You can be a part of whatever goofy religion or cult you like, as long as you don't infringe on anyone else's rights.
Perhaps the wildest thing the trial brought to light is that in California act of drugging someone and having your way with them is not considered a “forcible” non consensual act 🤯
there was a state where the DA said a woman couldn't press SA charges because, while she initially consented, her partner proceeded to choke her and do terrible things to her, so she couldn't say "no" to it.
Why didn't they talk about being drugged in the first trial? They changed their story in the second trial... that's weird. Also why is there no police records of the one who claimed she went to the police?
Guilty. He has been found guilty. That some people need to still act like it wasn’t wrong because it was such a long time ago. He got away with it long enough that’s the difference
once the two other Jane Doe’s came forward, statute of limitations were off the table bcuz multiple sexual assaults turns it into a felony. no SOLs for felonies. Had it remained only one victim, it would’ve been a misdemeanor. I hope this pos gets whats coming to him and his buddy Kutcher too
The HBO documentary 'Going Clear' is an excellent resource about the cult of scientology. Glad a violent serial rapist is locked up. Thanks for the wonderful presentation Dr Grande!
Scientology has a long way to go to get as objectively bad as Christianity, or Islam. There's as much evidence to disprove scientology as there is to disprove an invisible all powerful sky god that watches you sleep and knows what you are thinking. Bananas is bananas. The ruling faith-based religion(s) get to call it a "cult" without evidence. Islam insists that Christianity is a cult that insinuates Allah had a son. Are they wrong? Nobody can prove it is wrong. Wokism is taking presumed innocent people down and enjoys a lot of power today. It seems to be winning the war of ideas, so this tells us that fact finding doesn't matter when it comes to the spread of dumb ideas; it only matters how many people are behind it. This is why democracy is dumb, because mass amounts of people can be convinced of really stupid ideas.
Some people believe just because a person portrays himself as genuine, caring, and honest they must actually be that way. As if were incapable of being misled-by an ACTOR no less.
@@LDiamondz But it's not even as if Masterson tried to act the way Kutcher and Kunnis have described him in those letters. How do I know this? Because way back in the 2000's, Rosie O'Donald interviewed these two and asked them how the set handled their first kiss in that 70's show considering that he was 20 while she was 14 at the time. And they said that he was gonna try to not make it weird at first but then, Masterson told him "Dude, I'll give you 20 bucks if you deep tongue kiss her" and so, he did. They knew Masterson was a creep(and also an alcoholic). So why did they describe him as a nice, sober guy in the letters? Because they were both scientologists at one point in time(I think Kutcher still is one but Kunis left). Regardless, the cult still got dirt on them because scientology makes you reveal your most embarrassing secrets to them and they're obsessed with all of its active members having a clean reputation. So they forced these two to write these letters and make Masterson sound like a great, innocent guy who got framed, otherwise they will expose all the dirt they got on them.
@@dork7546 Really? I hadn't heard that story, but if that's how it was, then yeah, I could see the church of scientology telling people to write letters of support. And they would. Thanks for the info. 👍
@@LDiamondzif it helps, there are videos of this online. I think Growing Up In Scientology has posted them. Creeps me out thinking, what if this were my 14 yo goddaughter?
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a rapist with a hokey religion gets prosecuted and imprisoned like this.
Anyone that feels like they have to ask permission to report a crime, needs to think about why they feel the need to ask at all. And cut ties with the person and/or organization that would advise them not to report a crime.
There's a thing called brainwashing. Google it. The victims were born into a cult that had strict laws against reporting crimes committed by other members to police. Each victim reported the assaults at the time, and scientology has documents and documents, including testimony from DM, from their own investigation. These docs were used in the 2nd trial, where he was convicted. In his own words, DM admitted in writing everything the victims described were true, it just wasn't rape. The auditor who evaluated DM for this matter officially determined he has a criminal moral code. The church only protected him because he was a high profile, celebrity scientologist and the serial rapist thing would have looked bad for them. Also, one victim went to police and reported it just a year after the assault because of how scientology was handling it. Imagine being raped and having "therapy" sessions to explore your past lives and see what YOU did to deserve what happened, and being threatened with being declared a suppressive person (an enemy of the church, who can be fair gamed, and you get cut off from any loved ones in the religion and much more. It's a cult so your whole life is this thing. Everyone you associate with, work with, do business with is in the cult. Being declared SP literally means you lose everything and probably will get harassed and stalked.)
But that is common amongst church goers. Go to the clergy first. When people are conditioned to believe everything in their life revolves around their church they don't think outside the walls..
It has a long way to go to get as objectively bad as Christianity, or Islam. There's as much evidence to disprove scientology as there is to disprove an invisible all powerful sky that watches you sleep and knows what you are thinking. Bananas is bananas. The ruling faith-based religion(s) get to call it a "cult" without evidence. Islam insists that Christianity is a cult that insinuates Allah had a son. Are they wrong? Nobody can prove it is wrong. Wokism is taking presumed innocent people down and enjoys a lot of power today. It seems to be winning the war of ideas, so this tells us that fact finding doesn't matter when it comes to the spread of dumb ideas; it only matters how many people are behind it. This is why democracy is dumb, because mass amounts of people can be convinced of really stupid ideas.
As a former victim of sexual assault and DV, I want to say that it takes years to come forward….if we feel safe at all! In private, we are often threatened and do not feel supported enough to do it. I’m asking people to understand this dynamic.
It unacceptable. If a person is going to come forward it needs to be immediate or never except in the case of children. It’s completely unacceptable to expect people to believe charges stemming from an undocumented act a decade or more in the past. Nobody needs to understand that sort of cowardice. Come forward or stay silent
@@barbarastrayhorn4667 seriously. Like we don’t have enough shame to deal with. I was telling a friend yesterday that the sexual assaults, trafficking and DV for years was BAD…but the treatment AFTER that by the public was equally terrible 😞
The scene in the movie "FaceOff" where John Travolta's characters daughter was in a car and got assaulted by a guy after a date was actually cast by Danny. (In the scene "john" saved her from "danny" and taught her to use a knife afterwards). It obviously had nothing to do with these cases but I just found it ironic he even played the kind of person he actually is... Makes the scene even creepier.
That is definitely the best analysis I’ve seen on this topic. You clearly captured all of the complexities of this case. The fact that Danny was a swell guy to some people makes his offenses even worse. He had the ability to form very profound relationships. He not only had superficial charm, he conveyed genuine caring and concern for others. In some cases, he convinced them to avoid self destructive behaviors. However, his narcissism would not allow him to have any care or concern for his victims. I love that you’re objective about the case. You don’t care that he’s a rich famous actor (unlike some commentators who claim to be very anti crime but are defending him)
Sex offenders who get closely examined almost never match the implied and even explicit claims of the Pop psychologists. Stuff like "lack of empathy" is almost always refuted quickly and easily despite claims that seem non-falsifiable like that "narcissist psychopaths" come with the ability to realistically imitate empathy they don't have. The evidence also doesnt match the feminist ideology pop psychology explanation that sex offenders are motivated by oppressing women and far left indoctrination of youth is the only acceptable solution. These guys have urges that are common, but are willing to do it to boot. They are very much let off the hook by being portrayed as zombies or androids with no empathy and just responding to irresistible urges and/or the programming by whatever exaggerated bad times their defence lawyer brings up to convince people "he didnt do it, his trauma did it". The "no nonsense" explanation is the one that matches the evidence.
He has a lot of defenders. There are criminal defendants who are sympathetic and deserve defending. He’s not one of them but because of his status, he gets it
I don't think people defend him because he ios rich or famous but because he was prosecuted and convicted so many years after the alleged crimes that he had no way of defending himself anymore. What if this was a case of a sexual partner convincing herself that she was raped only after she got dumped by him?
Which is why beyond "That 70s Show", there aren't many folks who can describe other roles he's had. And why the reboot was so important to everyone involved (and why this is issue is gonna tarnish it badly).
Crazier/weirder still is that Masterson's now ex-wife's father, John Phillips of the 1960's music group _The Mama's And The Papa's_ faced allegations of drugging and "S.A." against her older half sister and others. When her sister went public with the allegations, much of their family denied it, said she was making it up out of whole cloth and said "it's not consistent with his charachter." Although several people admitted the suster had told them about her allegations many years before while their father was still alive. _Including_ Masterson's wife=John Phillips's younger dauggter from a later marriage. She said she was told when she was 13 and tgat it had a profound effect on her teen years, effectively ended jer childhood and made her weary of her father. Then after he died and her older half sister went public, she stated she'd asked her family "all the hard questions" and eventually decided for herself that her sister is "lying." Although many of his friends, peers and his own bandmate suppirt her allegations and those of others. With that much smoke around someone, its hard to believe there's no fire. Again, it's just crazy. What a coincidence that this woman has a father accused of drugging and "S.A.'ing" victims - allegations which she said she could not reconcile with the memories she knew of her father and thus, claimed to disbelieve - only to end up marrying a celebrity who himself ends up being accused and ultimately _convicted_ of the same crimes which her father had been accused. It's all quite strange and heavy. Especially when you add in Masterson's association with the cult of Scientology and the Mama's and the Papa's close friendship and association with Sharon Tate, Roman Polanski, Jay Sebring, Voltek Frykowski, Abigail Folger, the rumors of hedonistic sex parties at the Cielo Drive home of Tate and Polanski, Tate-LaBianca murders and the Manson cult. Lots of heavy weirdness. Hollywood is a cesspool.
I don’t know, if he thought he was a deity, but his wife dumped him the day he was sentenced. He should have gotten her to sign a 1 billion year contract with him!
Rape is possible in a relationship. If your partner rapes you, or forces you to do sexual things, this is still rape and it is never ok. It is serious abuse. Please never let your partner or anyone convince you otherwise and keep yourself safe ❤ Leave this person.
It's a shame because this truly ruins the warm and fuzzy memories I too have from growing up in the 70s as so well depicted in That 70s Show. Steven Hyde was a favorite character. Amazing how so many people and even his church stood by this convicted creep but immediately turned against him right after his conviction by redacting their testimonial support and even divorcing him. Now, that was great acting especially by Ashton and his 70s wife. Now they are stranded with the Masterson stigma!
"this truly ruins the warm and fuzzy memories I too have from growing up in the 70s" - You Win ... *Ludicrous Comment of the Day* ... Congratulations Jim!
And that's why acting is called acting. Sad that most people can't distinguish between the role and the actor. And don't get me started on politicians...
What always gets me about cases like this, is that millions of other women go through the same thing but never think of going to the police. If they do, NO ONE can afford the lawyers to prove anything. So just because your perpetrator is a celebrity you get justice?? I'm sorry... it just makes me sick
I’m sure you can be a Scientologist and a good person. But if you are a very bad person who nevertheless still wants to stay out of prison, you can’t pick a better religion.
@@stt5v2002 All the good people who joined scientology ultimately left or will leave eventually if they haven't already. And that's because pretty much everybody who left has confirmed Scientology is a cult that teaches narcissism and also believes all laws are bullshit and will gladly break them to achieve their goals. For example, this is a cult that will disregard all laws to stalk you, vandalize your property and even kidnap and torture you if you attempt to leave. Do you think this kind people really appeal to people like say, Leah Remini or Neil Gaiman or to the biggest scumbags at Hollywood like Dan Masterson?
As I recall one of the reasons the Beatles (for a short time) and Mike Love of the Beach Boys were big followers of the Maharishi in the 60's was that he assured them that wealth was something to be celebrated (by giving some to him). It seems like the same MO for Scientology.
Ugh, as someone who was drugged and assaulted and not believed as a child, the repeating of the word "alleged" over and over is starting to make me feel ill.
How do you defend yourself in a he said / she said when the current rage is "believe all women"? Women are not magical beings that are incapable of telling a lie.
I know peoples gut reaction when hearing things like 13 yrs after the incident happened charges were filed makes you think it's just someone out to hurt another celebrity etc but in the case of the cult of Scientology they are ruthless and relentless when harassing people they paint a target on, for whatever reason they deem an offense to them. I don't think people even realize how powerful an organization these guys are and how far they go to dominate peoples lives. I fully understand why some of these women were terrified to press charges initially.
Scientology has actually tried to frame reporters for m-rder to stop them revealing the truth. And if you listen to some of the interviews from those who escape, they absolutely revictimize r-pe victims through torture (sleep deprivation, starvation, manual labor, degredation) and brainwash that everything bad that happens to them is their own fault. There's been a bunch of unalivings (su-cide or otherwise) that the "church" (and local law enforcement) have swept under the rug as "accidents" because of the inhumane conditions the members are subjected to. One young woman, maybe 18 or 19yrs, electrocuted herself after being continuously denied access to her parents.
But 13 years also means a long time to destroy or lose physical evidence. Also Scientology isn't on trial, Danny is. I think he did it but because his attorney did a lousy job defending him (no witnesses?) and thus I'm worried about him getting out on appeal.
“Did Scientology make that 70s show star violent and entitled?” Yes. I don’t need to see the whole video there’s proof right now all over the internet that shows ideologies can make people violent and entitled.
Thank you, Dr. Grande! It's notable to mention that the victims were required by the "church" to undergo intense auditing, holding those stupid soup cans on the E meter, and were convinced by their auditor that the Sa's happened to them because the women themselves committed the same offense to someone in their multiple past lives. 🙄😮
Masterson was not recruited into scientology, he was born into it. That distinction is relevant in my opinion. He didn't adopt scientology as a means to conceal or abet his alleged sexual deviance.
@LOSTfan420Locke I took it the opposite. Danny Masterson was not newly introduced or born again, he was 100% a product of being raised in scientology. That idea doesn't seem to paint scientology in anything but a negative light.
@@skachor you misunderstood my comment. He was born into a family that is scientologist. That is not being 'Born Again" not a small distinction. Yes... he was raised to be a scientologist... by the people who are his biological parents.
I think it's possible for a person to be a predator but maybe they don't do much because they are afraid of getting caught. Then they join a group that makes them feel protected, so now they start to act out on their predatory impulses. They think they have a safety net. If this goes on for any length of time, then they will be SURE they have a safety net and their behavior will get worse. Then one day it's so bad that they get caught and not even their group can save them.
How do people not understand that someone can be (or simply seem) warm, genuine, and generally pro-social, but have darker behaviors they hide? I understand the cognitive dissonance, but "He can't be a predator because he's warm and funny and was nice to me personally," is just not realistic.
In my personal experience (I had a former friend convicted of a violent crime after he got completely hooked on opoids), most people who initially say these things eventually come around to the trutth. It's just an initial defense mechanism to their own selves...they don't want to believe they could have loved a bad person, so they have misplaced protest against the whole idea of it. Not necessarily defending this, just offering some perspective.
That is probably, in my opinion the most concise definition of Scientology I have come across. Your clarity in explaining the topic at- hand, quite simply …nailed it ….again.
I've always been confused about why perps attack those they see as inferior. Like, why not attack a superior, so you could prove your power. But, no, they hit the easy target. I guess this means rape and child sex abuse are primarily about entitlement and anger for not being to take whatever they think they deserve. I always thought of my dad as insecure and self-hating. But, that didn't stop him from feeling entitled to his daughter's private parts. Mom always told us to tolerate and support him because of his inferiority complex. It's different to think of them as entitled, but that's obvious now.
People DO what they're allowed to get away with. Period! Anyone with knowledge and not acting should be charged in my opinion. It's disgusting how these bums escalate unchecked 🤨😡
It is strange that the accusers that have come forward are all reporting incidents between 2001-2003. Strange because if he has a history of this type of behavior, did it just stop after 2003. Was he on something. Was he just power hungry during that period then it subsided. That’s rhetorical. Doesn’t require an answer. Just food for thought. But the timeline that these reported incidents occurred when Danny Masterson was years into working on “That 70’s Show”. He was riding sky high on that fame. The peak of his fame actually. Since he was never as famous as he was while on that show. He took his power hungry fame and took advantage of people with it. While these victims were drawn to his famousness at the time only to realize he was a dangerous person. I’ve had horrid incidents done upon me in the past ages ago. It’s never occurred to me 15 years later to go, “You know what, I’m gonna report this. I want justice.” I honestly just don’t care. It was so long ago in the past. I’ve moved on and healed and grown since then. The glowing letters about Danny talking about how amazing he is can very well be true. He can be all of those kind and amazing things. He can also have this other side to him that did these horrible things during an earlier part of his life. People aren’t just one type of person. They are complicated. Granted we can all be kind and not be as horrible as he was in those rape instances. But we all certainly have less than desirable characteristics as well. No one is all wonderful. He may be a nice person now and has changed since then, but this is a perfect case where his horrible behavior in his past has come back to not only haunt him but take him down.
Scientology has a long way to go to get as objectively bad as Christianity, or Islam. There's as much evidence to disprove scientology as there is to disprove an invisible all powerful sky god that watches you sleep and knows what you are thinking. Bananas is bananas. The ruling faith-based religion(s) get to call it a "cult" without evidence. Islam insists that Christianity is a cult that insinuates Allah had a son. Are they wrong? Nobody can prove it is wrong. Wokism is taking presumed innocent people down and enjoys a lot of power today. It seems to be winning the war of ideas, so this tells us that fact finding doesn't matter when it comes to the spread of dumb ideas; it only matters how many people are behind it. This is why democracy is dumb, because mass amounts of people can be convinced of really stupid ideas.
Hi Dr G! I hope all is well. I never miss your videos..I've seen every one. I appreciate the timeliness of your posts. You're always on top of current affairs and culture.. Keep up the good work!
Theres a relatively small list in comparison to how many celebrities there are and other than tom cruise and masterson i wouldnt call any of the others A list celebs, perhaps Travolta but i mean lets be real travolta isnt relevant anymore
@@Happycat8385 Regardless of how one defines “a celebrity,” I’ll wager that Scientologists are represented in Hollywood more than in the general population.
You nailed it yet again. I'm glad justice was served in this case. I don't know the intricacies, but I felt divorce proceedings would start shortly after the conviction though solely for protecting his money. Speaking of money, isn't it high time churches started paying taxes?
It'd be great to see all the evidence behind these crimes, it would be quite the forensic series, could be really informative. I remember a series called medical detectives where they would take an hour to break down how some crimes were solved.
@@frakismaximus3052 It's actually surprising how long evidence can last especially the digital kind. There are many sub fields in forensics. Forensic video analysis is the scientific examination, comparison and evaluation of video in legal matters. Mobile device forensics is the scientific examination and evaluation of evidence found in mobile phones, e.g. Call History and Deleted SMS, and includes SIM Card Forensics.
Thrilled to see your video 4 mins after posting!!! Post Watching: I feel the jury may have felt his crimes were more serious as they were hidden by the “Church of Lurch”… to me it seems like these women were not only abused/attacked by Masterton and then they were further degraded and made felt Valueless through the ‘church’ who should have cared and supported them.
soon as I heard that the church of scientology believes a boyfriend can't rape a girlfriend, that rape is not an act that's possible between a couple, I was reminded of how the Catholic Church used to say similar like husbands can't rape wives because wives must submit to their husbands. hard to say which church is worse, the Catholic Church or the church of scientology.
From what I see of Scientology from reading the book "Dianetics" and watching several channels about Scientology, Aaron Smith-Levin's in particular, I see very little in the way of spirituality or religion with respect to Scientology. With respect. I think you really should watch some of those channels to see the Scientology modus operandi.
Your conclusion regarding this case and the background of the cult of scientology was very interesting and raised a number of points I had not considered. Thank you for posting this Vid Dr Grande, very thorough and inciteful as always.
I would like to hear about how Danny Masterson treated the camera guys, production assistants, and food services staff on the set of, "That 70s Show." Let them tell their stories about Danny. I bet Danny was a monster to the "help" too.
Scientology is the complete opposite of Christianity. Christianity teaches that serving and loving others is what makes you a person of great character. No one is greater than anyone regardless of their wealth and popularity. We are all equal!
Equal. Right... Except for the subjugation of women and the endorsement of slavery. Don't be silly. Christianity isn't morally superior to scientology. They're both a collection of nonsense faerie tales used to control people and keep them ignorant.
I always look forward to your analysis’, this was another great assessment of the justice system, culture of Scientology (& it’s parishioners,) and the person/psyche of Matterson
Keep in mind the irony of a couple of other roles that Masterson played. A Date Rapist in "Face/Off." And in a cancelled TV show called "Good Girls don't..." he played a fictional version of himself, being a self-proclaimed victim of sex addiction. He made a quote played for laughs, "Nothing worse than being a guy with a 24/7 erection." The he was portrayed all through the short lived show, made you feel like he was someone you did not want around any of your lady friends.
I know right? That dude wasn’t just any ole Nazi like the Wehrmacht. No, this cat was in the Waffen SS. Even one of Hitler’s top general, Rommel would not let the SS serve with his troops in Africa.
It's a bit more complicated. He was a 17 yr old Ukrainian who was conscripted or volunteered into a German SS group (regular army didn't take non Germans) because he wanted to fight the Soviets after they genocided millions of people in Ukraine during the Holomdomore the previous decade. That said it's horrible optics are the Canadian gov is beyond stupid for not vetting.
I feel the law should investigate those who prevented the victims from reporting.
They weren’t prevented. They were discouraged. Personal responsibility is good. As an adult you make decisions of whom or what to follow. If they were minors it would be different.
Why bother investigating events that happened decades ago? The court of public opinion has already reached a verdict.
Not going to happen with that, "church", it has so much money made through real estate...and therefore, sway.
It was a whole system of a law unto itself community pressure as part of a "religion" they were encouraged to put ALL their faith in...
@@D1it4FN Something something the justice system doing it's job?
A little note- Danny didn’t join Scientology after he was a celebrity. He was born into the church, and groomed to be a celebrity. My guess is that fuelled a deep, deep narcissism.
Wow somebody actually questioning dr Grande
I wondered how he was getting TV adverts since the age of 5 😅
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@@johnnypapito4070I know.🤢😰
Makes me wonder how many other celebrities were created. (also inverted from birth)
“If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion.”- L. Ron Hubbard, as quoted in a1980 Reader's Digest.
He said this or started saying this in the 1940s and he founded the church in 1952 (I think?)
@@marlyd Yes, and his book Dianetics was published in 1950, so two years later he invented a new religion.
The reality from the beginning man touched earth. They know in order to makes tons of money is to make people believe in religion. People are never going to be upset with religion. These is why religion is being preached all over. Religion was made by men to keep people in their place.
I guess he took his own advice
The Office, Creed - "I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader."
The Church of Scientology needs to be investigated.
and it needs several psychiatrists
It's not a church
@@TyrellaChantelle Don’t play semantics with me. You know what I meant lol
Good luck. Even the IRS are afraid of them
@@Trtevoorryu They have that Illuminati backing huh?
Scientology is an endless font of insanity. Anytime I see a video related to it, I watch. It’s always scary, but entertaining.
I do too!! I live about 5 miles from the Int'l Base/Golden Era productions. And I understand. There are only 5 or 6 roads that leave town (one over a mountain) & it's AT LEAST 1/2 an hour to a major fwy.
Do you watch Aaron Smith-Levin/Growing Up In Scientology?
Scientologist OT 8 Wally Hanks beating a kid 1988 is a good video.
I think SouthPark had it right 👍 ..
Just know they're watching you too. It goes that deep with them.
I was targeted by a Scientology family. Scary evil.
Celebs in Scientology have a different experience than everyone else, he knew the church would encourage them not to report anything. The fact the LA cops are paid off by Scientology doesn’t help.
Encourages, they downright forbid it.
the Church of Scientology will probably drop Danny Masterson like a hot potato, if they haven't already. He was only of use to the Scientologists when he had celebrity status
@@rodolfoerdogan4983 Nope, they still love him & his whole Scientology family. They'll distance. But...
Agreed
No proof whatsoever about police involvement.
It seems the “church” of Scientology ought to be able to be sued as accomplices to masterson. How can the Catholic Church be sued for protecting abusers but not Scientology church???
The victims in the Catholic church were mostly children.
Danny should be transferred to a different parish.
They are being sued, and there is an investigation into whether they obstructed justice in the case and the trial.
Better lawyers 🤷♂️
They are.
I don't attach any weight to the fact that Masterson's wife filed for divorce days after his sentencing. That may just be a way of shifting assets out of the reach of victims who are now free to file claims for civil damages. His family are very tight-knit, with his wife, mother, and all siblings members of Scientology. If they all remain close, the divorce may not mean much of any substance.
I think this is the same reason why the wife of accused Gilgo Beach killer filed for divorce.
Totally agree, they are in self preservation mode. Besides, she needs to do everything she can to secure their daughter's financial future.
Damn. That is a whole new level of evil.
They don’t need to shift assets that’s why there are living family trusts.
@@MrsDAllan62The trust would not have included the majority of his money and assets though, would it? Also after being convicted, which he probably did not think would happen, would he be allowed to go in and just transfer assets like that?
Every time I hear about Scientology all I can think of is Tom cruise’s crazy face in that Matt Lauer interview
That's all?
jumping on the couch in the Oprah interview for how much he loves Kate?
Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt, you're glib, you don't even kbow what Ritalin is
Or his jumping onto Oprah's sofa 😂😅😂
I also think of the Oprah couch jumping moment.
Good for you for calling out Scientology. Hope their lawyers don't try to harass or sue you.
Yes, that IS a valid concern, seeing as so many other people have become victimized by that crime org. Nothing religious about it.
But, he's just speculating about what COULD be happening in a situation LIKE this. Nothing wrong with that.
@@robswystun2766 Scientology people are bullies and have no reservations about abusing anyone. Cults do this kind of thing. Yes.
I bet the Scientologists are already in his DMs threatening his family. 😂
@@robswystun2766wait til he finds an actual poisonous snake in his mailbox 😢
This case really deminstrates that rape is about the power and control much more than the sex. When Masterson committed his crimes--the ones we know about, anyway--he was a young, wealthy, attractive, reasonably famous actor. In short, he was a man at the height of his attractiveness to women, and that attractiveness was considerably greater than most men could ever hope for. If the dude wasn't knee-deep in women then surely could have been if he'd wanted to be--getting more ass than a toliet seat, to borrow an evocative if indelicate phrase. And surely at least some of those women would have been game for whatever proclivities Masterson was into, inlcuding rape fantasies and/or having sex with an unconscious person. Masterson could have had any consensual experience he'd wanted, but there's the rub: he wanted to indulge his power fantasy by having the experience without the consent. And because he was a member in good standing of a creepy little cult, which, like all high control religions (or "religions," as the case may be) provide a structure seemingly tailor-made to protect predators, Masterson felt empowered to do as he pleased.
Rape is always about power and control over sex. If its regular sex there is no sexual excitement in gaining control over someone else to violate them. In regular sex thats abhorrant.
Well, I don't see how the heck he was "attractive". 🙄 He comes across as a complete a-hole and entitled. Never liked him. Glad that he finally has to pay the piper.
@@petert2481 You're wrong. Those victims reported the rape when it happened. It was covered up and they were told to shut up. At least one even went to the police but the cult was protecting him. One of the victims was his live-in gf at the time of the rapes so, he could've had consent. However, he CHOSE to drug her and rape her because he liked it. OP is absolutely correct.
@@duraniegal79they didn't know that at the time. Statistically he likely has at least 1 doppelganger and that person could be the exact opposite. That person would be more attractive
@@duraniegal79young people and damaged people overlooked a lot of flags, red or green.
There have been many more women who have been assaulted by Danny. He's a serial rapist that's been protected by the "church" of scientology which he is still a member in good standing.
Why do you make allegations about Danny DeVito? Poor Danny😂
@@salex9482Take your meds.
Imagine an organized religion protecting serial predators and treating women as sub-human! Unthinkable until now!
@@salex9482 I thought he meant Danny Kaye!
Uhhh, proof?
It started small, scientology let him get away with the trivial which then escalated as Danny faced no consequences and instead was met with praise. I think much of the truth is still being covered up, scientology is truly one of the most evil groups
He acted in a Scientology training film where he portraid a man who did what he was later convicted of in real life. Ironic & sick
Really? Wow😮
Holy cow.
Life imitates art!
And in Face/Off.
But, some say that 1st one might have triggered something in him.
Who is sicker, Scientologists or the society that doesn’t quash them completely? You can’t even be one in Germany, due to their bad experience with “parallel societies.”
Germany is an authoritarian hellhole. In America, we accept personal responsibility for our actions. You can be a part of whatever goofy religion or cult you like, as long as you don't infringe on anyone else's rights.
Meanwhile the Falungong cult is banned in China but the US says they're being persecuted for religious issues.
@blingfire1850naw, we can go after their absurd belief system too. Lord Zenu 😂😂😂
Go after ideologies you don't agree with? That doesn't sound fascist at all and I can't think of any possible unintended consequences.
This is the kind of mentality that leads to totalitarianism. I’m a free country you are allowed to
Worship anyone.
Perhaps the wildest thing the trial brought to light is that in California act of drugging someone and having your way with them is not considered a “forcible” non consensual act 🤯
WTF?!
there was a state where the DA said a woman couldn't press SA charges because, while she initially consented, her partner proceeded to choke her and do terrible things to her, so she couldn't say "no" to it.
Why didn't they talk about being drugged in the first trial? They changed their story in the second trial... that's weird. Also why is there no police records of the one who claimed she went to the police?
@@pamelapamper1) because of a court ruling 2) ask the lapd
Because there is no force or coercion involved. Whether it is rape therefore depends on whether the statute requires rape to be forcible.
Guilty. He has been found guilty. That some people need to still act like it wasn’t wrong because it was such a long time ago. He got away with it long enough that’s the difference
once the two other Jane Doe’s came forward, statute of limitations were off the table bcuz multiple sexual assaults turns it into a felony. no SOLs for felonies. Had it remained only one victim, it would’ve been a misdemeanor.
I hope this pos gets whats coming to him and his buddy Kutcher too
We need people to make that same argument to get copyright law shortened significantly
Yeeeeeeeah, just let a serial rapist walk free. What possibly can go wrong?
@@NatBKyivserial rapist in ur fantasy
The HBO documentary 'Going Clear' is an excellent resource about the cult of scientology. Glad a violent serial rapist is locked up. Thanks for the wonderful presentation Dr Grande!
Scientology has a long way to go to get as objectively bad as Christianity, or Islam. There's as much evidence to disprove scientology as there is to disprove an invisible all powerful sky god that watches you sleep and knows what you are thinking. Bananas is bananas. The ruling faith-based religion(s) get to call it a "cult" without evidence. Islam insists that Christianity is a cult that insinuates Allah had a son. Are they wrong? Nobody can prove it is wrong. Wokism is taking presumed innocent people down and enjoys a lot of power today. It seems to be winning the war of ideas, so this tells us that fact finding doesn't matter when it comes to the spread of dumb ideas; it only matters how many people are behind it. This is why democracy is dumb, because mass amounts of people can be convinced of really stupid ideas.
Some people believe just because a person portrays himself as genuine, caring, and honest they must actually be that way. As if were incapable of being misled-by an ACTOR no less.
True. We all know people who would be described the way Danny was, by friends and co-workers, who are the total opposite at home.
@@LDiamondz But it's not even as if Masterson tried to act the way Kutcher and Kunnis have described him in those letters. How do I know this? Because way back in the 2000's, Rosie O'Donald interviewed these two and asked them how the set handled their first kiss in that 70's show considering that he was 20 while she was 14 at the time. And they said that he was gonna try to not make it weird at first but then, Masterson told him "Dude, I'll give you 20 bucks if you deep tongue kiss her" and so, he did. They knew Masterson was a creep(and also an alcoholic). So why did they describe him as a nice, sober guy in the letters? Because they were both scientologists at one point in time(I think Kutcher still is one but Kunis left). Regardless, the cult still got dirt on them because scientology makes you reveal your most embarrassing secrets to them and they're obsessed with all of its active members having a clean reputation. So they forced these two to write these letters and make Masterson sound like a great, innocent guy who got framed, otherwise they will expose all the dirt they got on them.
@@dork7546 Really? I hadn't heard that story, but if that's how it was, then yeah, I could see the church of scientology telling people to write letters of support. And they would. Thanks for the info. 👍
@@LDiamondzif it helps, there are videos of this online. I think Growing Up In Scientology has posted them. Creeps me out thinking, what if this were my 14 yo goddaughter?
@@LDiamondz🎯
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a rapist with a hokey religion gets prosecuted and imprisoned like this.
😂😂😂
It's not a religion
Anyone that feels like they have to ask permission to report a crime, needs to think about why they feel the need to ask at all. And cut ties with the person and/or organization that would advise them not to report a crime.
There's a thing called brainwashing. Google it. The victims were born into a cult that had strict laws against reporting crimes committed by other members to police. Each victim reported the assaults at the time, and scientology has documents and documents, including testimony from DM, from their own investigation. These docs were used in the 2nd trial, where he was convicted. In his own words, DM admitted in writing everything the victims described were true, it just wasn't rape. The auditor who evaluated DM for this matter officially determined he has a criminal moral code. The church only protected him because he was a high profile, celebrity scientologist and the serial rapist thing would have looked bad for them. Also, one victim went to police and reported it just a year after the assault because of how scientology was handling it. Imagine being raped and having "therapy" sessions to explore your past lives and see what YOU did to deserve what happened, and being threatened with being declared a suppressive person (an enemy of the church, who can be fair gamed, and you get cut off from any loved ones in the religion and much more. It's a cult so your whole life is this thing. Everyone you associate with, work with, do business with is in the cult. Being declared SP literally means you lose everything and probably will get harassed and stalked.)
But that is common amongst church goers. Go to the clergy first.
When people are conditioned to believe everything in their life revolves around their church they don't think outside the walls..
@@tessaducek5601 Same thing happens with child abuse in the Catholic church.
@@jkjives1786 Right? Its awful. I understand but there are situations where one needs to take drastic measures.
Its a sad truth.
This is why I am spiritual and not religious.
Echo chamber of nonsense One of the best descriptions of Scientology to date
sounds like any religion to me, no more crazy than the old ones
It has a long way to go to get as objectively bad as Christianity, or Islam. There's as much evidence to disprove scientology as there is to disprove an invisible all powerful sky that watches you sleep and knows what you are thinking. Bananas is bananas. The ruling faith-based religion(s) get to call it a "cult" without evidence. Islam insists that Christianity is a cult that insinuates Allah had a son. Are they wrong? Nobody can prove it is wrong. Wokism is taking presumed innocent people down and enjoys a lot of power today. It seems to be winning the war of ideas, so this tells us that fact finding doesn't matter when it comes to the spread of dumb ideas; it only matters how many people are behind it. This is why democracy is dumb, because mass amounts of people can be convinced of really stupid ideas.
As a former victim of sexual assault and DV, I want to say that it takes years to come forward….if we feel safe at all! In private, we are often threatened and do not feel supported enough to do it. I’m asking people to understand this dynamic.
It unacceptable. If a person is going to come forward it needs to be immediate or never except in the case of children. It’s completely unacceptable to expect people to believe charges stemming from an undocumented act a decade or more in the past. Nobody needs to understand that sort of cowardice. Come forward or stay silent
@@lostandfound5145well, thank you for adding an extra layer of shame and guilt. We don't carry enough pain.
@@lostandfound5145 are you calling me a coward because it took me 7 years to feel safe coming forward?
@@barbarastrayhorn4667 seriously. Like we don’t have enough shame to deal with. I was telling a friend yesterday that the sexual assaults, trafficking and DV for years was BAD…but the treatment AFTER that by the public was equally terrible 😞
@@lostandfound5145 You are a stellar example of why victims do not report. This right here!
This is a masterclass in clearly saying what you need to say without using any of the words that youtube no likey. Impressive!
Dr Grande definitely has a way with words. UA-cam guidelines are ridiculous, but he is a wordsmith of descriptive analogies 😅👍
@@BackyardButcher Exactly what I meant.
@@PeasGraveny 👍♥️
@@FlymanMS Or being de-platformed. But it’s not your channel, so who cares, right?
The scene in the movie "FaceOff" where John Travolta's characters daughter was in a car and got assaulted by a guy after a date was actually cast by Danny. (In the scene "john" saved her from "danny" and taught her to use a knife afterwards).
It obviously had nothing to do with these cases but I just found it ironic he even played the kind of person he actually is... Makes the scene even creepier.
Maybe he wasn’t entirely acting.
@@Ketowski He wasn't
@@MrAlbalto You know him personally?
Abusive predators belong in prison. Bye, Danny!!
Byeeeee‼️☠️☠️☠️
Don't drop the soap Mr. Love God.
That is definitely the best analysis I’ve seen on this topic. You clearly captured all of the complexities of this case. The fact that Danny was a swell guy to some people makes his offenses even worse. He had the ability to form very profound relationships. He not only had superficial charm, he conveyed genuine caring and concern for others. In some cases, he convinced them to avoid self destructive behaviors. However, his narcissism would not allow him to have any care or concern for his victims. I love that you’re objective about the case. You don’t care that he’s a rich famous actor (unlike some commentators who claim to be very anti crime but are defending him)
Sex offenders who get closely examined almost never match the implied and even explicit claims of the Pop psychologists.
Stuff like "lack of empathy" is almost always refuted quickly and easily despite claims that seem non-falsifiable like that "narcissist psychopaths" come with the ability to realistically imitate empathy they don't have.
The evidence also doesnt match the feminist ideology pop psychology explanation that sex offenders are motivated by oppressing women and far left indoctrination of youth is the only acceptable solution.
These guys have urges that are common, but are willing to do it to boot. They are very much let off the hook by being portrayed as zombies or androids with no empathy and just responding to irresistible urges and/or the programming by whatever exaggerated bad times their defence lawyer brings up to convince people "he didnt do it, his trauma did it".
The "no nonsense" explanation is the one that matches the evidence.
Yes, people need to remember that even Ted Bundy was nice to his friends and coworkers.
Because he's famous makes no difference. Why commit adultery anyway. I guess he mustn't be a good lover cos why would want someone unconscious?
He has a lot of defenders. There are criminal defendants who are sympathetic and deserve defending. He’s not one of them but because of his status, he gets it
I don't think people defend him because he ios rich or famous but because he was prosecuted and convicted so many years after the alleged crimes that he had no way of defending himself anymore. What if this was a case of a sexual partner convincing herself that she was raped only after she got dumped by him?
I don't even think Danny was that good of an actor
Didn't he basically just play "grumpy dude" on that show? I don't think he needed much range.
Which is why beyond "That 70s Show", there aren't many folks who can describe other roles he's had. And why the reboot was so important to everyone involved (and why this is issue is gonna tarnish it badly).
He gave me the creeps on that show
He's so scruffy
@@robswystun2766 he's a zombie
Crazier/weirder still is that Masterson's now ex-wife's father, John Phillips of the 1960's music group _The Mama's And The Papa's_ faced allegations of drugging and "S.A." against her older half sister and others. When her sister went public with the allegations, much of their family denied it, said she was making it up out of whole cloth and said "it's not consistent with his charachter." Although several people admitted the suster had told them about her allegations many years before while their father was still alive. _Including_ Masterson's wife=John Phillips's younger dauggter from a later marriage. She said she was told when she was 13 and tgat it had a profound effect on her teen years, effectively ended jer childhood and made her weary of her father. Then after he died and her older half sister went public, she stated she'd asked her family "all the hard questions" and eventually decided for herself that her sister is "lying." Although many of his friends, peers and his own bandmate suppirt her allegations and those of others. With that much smoke around someone, its hard to believe there's no fire. Again, it's just crazy. What a coincidence that this woman has a father accused of drugging and "S.A.'ing" victims - allegations which she said she could not reconcile with the memories she knew of her father and thus, claimed to disbelieve - only to end up marrying a celebrity who himself ends up being accused and ultimately _convicted_ of the same crimes which her father had been accused. It's all quite strange and heavy. Especially when you add in Masterson's association with the cult of Scientology and the Mama's and the Papa's close friendship and association with Sharon Tate, Roman Polanski, Jay Sebring, Voltek Frykowski, Abigail Folger, the rumors of hedonistic sex parties at the Cielo Drive home of Tate and Polanski, Tate-LaBianca murders and the Manson cult. Lots of heavy weirdness. Hollywood is a cesspool.
Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande. I feel that those who discouraged the women from reporting Masterson's actions should be held accountable, as well.
I don’t know, if he thought he was a deity, but his wife dumped him the day he was sentenced. He should have gotten her to sign a 1 billion year contract with him!
I think she did that so that they can quickly move assets into her name ahead of upcoming civil damages cases.
❤
He wasn't on a diet from the information I found on Google. Yw
The wife is in Scientology. She is just shielding assets from future civil suits.
She only did that for the assets
Rape is possible in a relationship. If your partner rapes you, or forces you to do sexual things, this is still rape and it is never ok. It is serious abuse. Please never let your partner or anyone convince you otherwise and keep yourself safe ❤ Leave this person.
What an archaic attitude, right? From the policies by someone with questionable history in relationships.
That poor Danny boy, it must be terrible to go from deity to prisoner convict.
It's a shame because this truly ruins the warm and fuzzy memories I too have from growing up in the 70s as so well depicted in That 70s Show. Steven Hyde was a favorite character. Amazing how so many people and even his church stood by this convicted creep but immediately turned against him right after his conviction by redacting their testimonial support and even divorcing him. Now, that was great acting especially by Ashton and his 70s wife. Now they are stranded with the Masterson stigma!
I liked him and Donna the best. Yikes
Me too!💞
"this truly ruins the warm and fuzzy memories I too have from growing up in the 70s" - You Win ... *Ludicrous Comment of the Day* ... Congratulations Jim!
And that's why acting is called acting. Sad that most people can't distinguish between the role and the actor. And don't get me started on politicians...
Steven Hyde looked about 40 years old in the show. He was misogynistic and a jerk. The story line that he and Jackie got together was laughable.
What always gets me about cases like this, is that millions of other women go through the same thing but never think of going to the police. If they do, NO ONE can afford the lawyers to prove anything. So just because your perpetrator is a celebrity you get justice?? I'm sorry... it just makes me sick
You can rarely prove rape. It happens in private.
Hey, Dr. G! Thanks for covering this case. I've been falling down the rabbit hole of scientology for a while now.
😮
Maybe it's time you climb out.
i don't think it's possible to be a good person and a Scientologist at the same time.
DO NOT “LIKE” THIS COMMENT PEOPLE.
FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY.
No
I’m sure you can be a Scientologist and a good person. But if you are a very bad person who nevertheless still wants to stay out of prison, you can’t pick a better religion.
@@stt5v2002 All the good people who joined scientology ultimately left or will leave eventually if they haven't already. And that's because pretty much everybody who left has confirmed Scientology is a cult that teaches narcissism and also believes all laws are bullshit and will gladly break them to achieve their goals. For example, this is a cult that will disregard all laws to stalk you, vandalize your property and even kidnap and torture you if you attempt to leave. Do you think this kind people really appeal to people like say, Leah Remini or Neil Gaiman or to the biggest scumbags at Hollywood like Dan Masterson?
Substitute the word
" scientologist" for " theist" and you're 100% correct.
Thank you Dr. Grande. I always gain so much insight into the subtleties of human nature from your presentations.
I have a feeling he might bring an abrupt end to his prison sentence.
mark your words
Let's hope so.
As I recall one of the reasons the Beatles (for a short time) and Mike Love of the Beach Boys were big followers of the Maharishi in the 60's was that he assured them that wealth was something to be celebrated (by giving some to him). It seems like the same MO for Scientology.
Nicely done, Dr. Your work is consistently informative, reasoned, fair, and full of good things to learn.
Thanks!
I was waiting for a DM video from doc G. And the thumbnail title alone did not disappoint!
Dr Grande - your daily posts are the bread and butter of my life - thank you for your services 😌
LOVE your wordplay Dr. Grande! Continue bringing the public your intelligent, insightful, and humorous views!
Ugh, as someone who was drugged and assaulted and not believed as a child, the repeating of the word "alleged" over and over is starting to make me feel ill.
I know how you feel
You'd feel differently if you'd been accused falsely it's innocent until proven guilty
@@Virtualfantasy1999 no one should be falsely accused...and no one should be too ashamed and afraid of not being believed to report it
@@Virtualfantasy1999 I also agree that it's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
So sorry that happened to you. ❤
30 years in prison for something that happened 20yrs ago, with no physical evidence, sounds like crap to me
Sounds like you’re one of the few people in here with common sense and basic logic to me.
@@scottlayne7558
😂 Incels gonna incel, bruh.
How do you defend yourself in a he said / she said when the current rage is "believe all women"?
Women are not magical beings that are incapable of telling a lie.
I know peoples gut reaction when hearing things like 13 yrs after the incident happened charges were filed makes you think it's just someone out to hurt another celebrity etc but in the case of the cult of Scientology they are ruthless and relentless when harassing people they paint a target on, for whatever reason they deem an offense to them. I don't think people even realize how powerful an organization these guys are and how far they go to dominate peoples lives. I fully understand why some of these women were terrified to press charges initially.
Scientology has actually tried to frame reporters for m-rder to stop them revealing the truth. And if you listen to some of the interviews from those who escape, they absolutely revictimize r-pe victims through torture (sleep deprivation, starvation, manual labor, degredation) and brainwash that everything bad that happens to them is their own fault. There's been a bunch of unalivings (su-cide or otherwise) that the "church" (and local law enforcement) have swept under the rug as "accidents" because of the inhumane conditions the members are subjected to. One young woman, maybe 18 or 19yrs, electrocuted herself after being continuously denied access to her parents.
But 13 years also means a long time to destroy or lose physical evidence. Also Scientology isn't on trial, Danny is. I think he did it but because his attorney did a lousy job defending him (no witnesses?) and thus I'm worried about him getting out on appeal.
I bet he did something that angered some Scientology big wigs and they threw him under the bus
“Did Scientology make that 70s show star violent and entitled?” Yes.
I don’t need to see the whole video there’s proof right now all over the internet that shows ideologies can make people violent and entitled.
I never thought of why celebrities might go for Scientology, so thanks for the insight!
Thank you, Dr. Grande! It's notable to mention that the victims were required by the "church" to undergo intense auditing, holding those stupid soup cans on the E meter, and were convinced by their auditor that the Sa's happened to them because the women themselves committed the same offense to someone in their multiple past lives. 🙄😮
Masterson was not recruited into scientology, he was born into it. That distinction is relevant in my opinion. He didn't adopt scientology as a means to conceal or abet his alleged sexual deviance.
He was raised into it
@@tracym8952Semantics
That distinction isn’t relevant at all. You sound like you’re trying to cover for that cult
@LOSTfan420Locke I took it the opposite. Danny Masterson was not newly introduced or born again, he was 100% a product of being raised in scientology.
That idea doesn't seem to paint scientology in anything but a negative light.
@@skachor you misunderstood my comment. He was born into a family that is scientologist. That is not being 'Born Again"
not a small distinction.
Yes... he was raised to be a scientologist... by the people who are his biological parents.
Thank you Dr. Grande, your perspective, as usual, was concise and illuminating.
I really like your little cactus candles. 🌵🌵Thanks for all your hard work in bringing these cases to us.
Thank you for covering this Dr. Grande 🙏
Danny just couldn’t shrug off them pesky body thetans! Why on Earth Xenu?
🧌 Because you are suppressive!
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Awesome! I was looking forward to Dr. Grande’s analysis on this one! ❤
I think it's possible for a person to be a predator but maybe they don't do much because they are afraid of getting caught. Then they join a group that makes them feel protected, so now they start to act out on their predatory impulses. They think they have a safety net. If this goes on for any length of time, then they will be SURE they have a safety net and their behavior will get worse. Then one day it's so bad that they get caught and not even their group can save them.
How do people not understand that someone can be (or simply seem) warm, genuine, and generally pro-social, but have darker behaviors they hide?
I understand the cognitive dissonance, but "He can't be a predator because he's warm and funny and was nice to me personally," is just not realistic.
In my personal experience (I had a former friend convicted of a violent crime after he got completely hooked on opoids), most people who initially say these things eventually come around to the trutth. It's just an initial defense mechanism to their own selves...they don't want to believe they could have loved a bad person, so they have misplaced protest against the whole idea of it.
Not necessarily defending this, just offering some perspective.
Scientology was passed to mortals by angels who profit from the common sense observation that not all the rich and famous are even intelligent.
Don't you mean demons.
In the USA it is recognised as a genuine religeon and receives significant tax concessions 😉
Jacqueline, indeed! That was just a backhanded joke.@@jacquelinewilliams5661
Master son was born into it. It’s not about intelligence or common sense. Ever heard of the Stanford experiment?
That is probably, in my opinion the most concise definition of Scientology I have come across. Your clarity in explaining the topic at- hand, quite simply …nailed it ….again.
I've always been confused about why perps attack those they see as inferior. Like, why not attack a superior, so you could prove your power. But, no, they hit the easy target. I guess this means rape and child sex abuse are primarily about entitlement and anger for not being to take whatever they think they deserve. I always thought of my dad as insecure and self-hating. But, that didn't stop him from feeling entitled to his daughter's private parts. Mom always told us to tolerate and support him because of his inferiority complex. It's different to think of them as entitled, but that's obvious now.
I'm sorry for what you had to endure and keep quiet about when you were just a child. I hope you've been able to heal.
🤢🤢🤮🤮😡🤬🤔 May you be safe and heal.🙏❤️
Thank you for discussing this case. It saddens me that Danny’s victims had to fight for so long to get justice and in some ways still are.
Scientology recruits celebrities because of the revenue, legitimacy and public sway...
He's got a new show...
That Jail Till My 70's Show! 😊
I NEVER EVER understood his appeal. he's not exactly a sex symbol.
Hey, neither was Charlie Manson.
For a lot of women, it could be simple as he’s rich and famous. It’s funny how looks and personality take a back seat when you have money.
@@michaelperez9966Just as funny as how personality and intelligence take a back seat to youth and beauty. 😜
But he was a known actor with a pretty steady career and a lot of wannabees would be happy to attach themselves to him for professional exposure.
@@ponygirlusa That’s true too! People are shallow.
People DO what they're allowed to get away with. Period! Anyone with knowledge and not acting should be charged in my opinion. It's disgusting how these bums escalate unchecked 🤨😡
They do what they want. Some people don’t WANT to rape people
It is strange that the accusers that have come forward are all reporting incidents between 2001-2003. Strange because if he has a history of this type of behavior, did it just stop after 2003. Was he on something. Was he just power hungry during that period then it subsided. That’s rhetorical. Doesn’t require an answer. Just food for thought. But the timeline that these reported incidents occurred when Danny Masterson was years into working on “That 70’s Show”. He was riding sky high on that fame. The peak of his fame actually. Since he was never as famous as he was while on that show. He took his power hungry fame and took advantage of people with it. While these victims were drawn to his famousness at the time only to realize he was a dangerous person.
I’ve had horrid incidents done upon me in the past ages ago. It’s never occurred to me 15 years later to go, “You know what, I’m gonna report this. I want justice.” I honestly just don’t care. It was so long ago in the past. I’ve moved on and healed and grown since then.
The glowing letters about Danny talking about how amazing he is can very well be true. He can be all of those kind and amazing things. He can also have this other side to him that did these horrible things during an earlier part of his life. People aren’t just one type of person. They are complicated. Granted we can all be kind and not be as horrible as he was in those rape instances. But we all certainly have less than desirable characteristics as well. No one is all wonderful. He may be a nice person now and has changed since then, but this is a perfect case where his horrible behavior in his past has come back to not only haunt him but take him down.
This video is a perfect example of why I come here to watch Dr. Grande.
I come here primarily for the puns and then the analysis.
I come here primarily for the comments.
Scientology: Making adult fairy tales somehow crazier than virgin births.
Scientology has a long way to go to get as objectively bad as Christianity, or Islam. There's as much evidence to disprove scientology as there is to disprove an invisible all powerful sky god that watches you sleep and knows what you are thinking. Bananas is bananas. The ruling faith-based religion(s) get to call it a "cult" without evidence. Islam insists that Christianity is a cult that insinuates Allah had a son. Are they wrong? Nobody can prove it is wrong. Wokism is taking presumed innocent people down and enjoys a lot of power today. It seems to be winning the war of ideas, so this tells us that fact finding doesn't matter when it comes to the spread of dumb ideas; it only matters how many people are behind it. This is why democracy is dumb, because mass amounts of people can be convinced of really stupid ideas.
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As usual you got it exactly right.
Hi Dr G! I hope all is well. I never miss your videos..I've seen every one. I appreciate the timeliness of your posts. You're always on top of current affairs and culture.. Keep up the good work!
I'm beginning to see why so many celebrities are drawn to Scientology.
So many?
@@CrookDanny even the other comedians in that 70s show (Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis)
Theres a relatively small list in comparison to how many celebrities there are and other than tom cruise and masterson i wouldnt call any of the others A list celebs, perhaps Travolta but i mean lets be real travolta isnt relevant anymore
@@Happycat8385 Regardless of how one defines “a celebrity,” I’ll wager that Scientologists are represented in Hollywood more than in the general population.
@@nicknico4121and Donna Prepon
Dr Grande...I appreciate your opinion ❤
Totally appreciate your dry sense of humor ❤❤😊
Agreed. Many predators have kind, ethical personas used to deceive others.
First time on this channel. I’m a longtime Scientology watcher, and your summarising of the cult is admirably correct if not the best I’ve heard!
Echo Chamber of Nonsense. Sounds like Dr. Grande has a title for a new book.
Great title for his memoirs or auto biography.
You nailed it yet again. I'm glad justice was served in this case. I don't know the intricacies, but I felt divorce proceedings would start shortly after the conviction though solely for protecting his money. Speaking of money, isn't it high time churches started paying taxes?
Danny sounds like a real piece of work. He won’t be treated like a star in jail/prison 😂
I like how your studio background has evolved!
It'd be great to see all the evidence behind these crimes, it would be quite the forensic series, could be really informative.
I remember a series called medical detectives where they would take an hour to break down how some crimes were solved.
Still watch that show
I don't see what real forensic evidence their could be after such a long time
@@frakismaximus3052 he is implying that the victims are lying
@@frakismaximus3052 It's actually surprising how long evidence can last especially the digital kind.
There are many sub fields in forensics.
Forensic video analysis is the scientific examination, comparison and evaluation of video in legal matters.
Mobile device forensics is the scientific examination and evaluation of evidence found in mobile phones, e.g. Call History and Deleted SMS, and includes SIM Card Forensics.
@@darkheartsartccollective No , it would just be nice to see how these high profile cases are solved.
Hi Dr. Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos.
Thrilled to see your video 4 mins after posting!!!
Post Watching: I feel the jury may have felt his crimes were more serious as they were hidden by the “Church of Lurch”… to me it seems like these women were not only abused/attacked by Masterton and then they were further degraded and made felt
Valueless through the ‘church’ who should have cared and supported them.
My pastor didn't protect me, but he did help my abuser.
soon as I heard that the church of scientology believes a boyfriend can't rape a girlfriend, that rape is not an act that's possible between a couple, I was reminded of how the Catholic Church used to say similar like husbands can't rape wives because wives must submit to their husbands. hard to say which church is worse, the Catholic Church or the church of scientology.
From what I see of Scientology from reading the book "Dianetics" and watching several channels about Scientology, Aaron Smith-Levin's in particular, I see very little in the way of spirituality or religion with respect to Scientology.
With respect. I think you really should watch some of those channels to see the Scientology modus operandi.
Most people already know how cults work.
The crazy thing is that if he would have taken account when it happened he would be out now
Wouldn’t know him if I was introduced to him.
Your conclusion regarding this case and the background of the cult of scientology was very interesting and raised a number of points I had not considered. Thank you for posting this Vid Dr Grande, very thorough and inciteful as always.
No church should discourage a woman from reporting abuse! Thank you Dr. Grande for your insightful look into this!
I like how you unnecessarily gendered that statement....
I would like to hear about how Danny Masterson treated the camera guys, production assistants, and food services staff on the set of, "That 70s Show." Let them tell their stories about Danny. I bet Danny was a monster to the "help" too.
Scientology is the complete opposite of Christianity. Christianity teaches that serving and loving others is what makes you a person of great character. No one is greater than anyone regardless of their wealth and popularity. We are all equal!
I take it you haven’t heard of Christian prosperity gospel.
Doesnt seem like it is these days or at least not with the Christian trump thrumpers
@@jonalynreynolds8122please which gospel is this? As a Christian & quite a poor one I need to find this!
@@susanross1651😂😂😂❤
Equal. Right... Except for the subjugation of women and the endorsement of slavery. Don't be silly. Christianity isn't morally superior to scientology. They're both a collection of nonsense faerie tales used to control people and keep them ignorant.
I always look forward to your analysis’, this was another great assessment of the justice system, culture of Scientology (& it’s parishioners,) and the person/psyche of Matterson
Keep in mind the irony of a couple of other roles that Masterson played. A Date Rapist in "Face/Off." And in a cancelled TV show called "Good Girls don't..." he played a fictional version of himself, being a self-proclaimed victim of sex addiction. He made a quote played for laughs, "Nothing worse than being a guy with a 24/7 erection." The he was portrayed all through the short lived show, made you feel like he was someone you did not want around any of your lady friends.
This is such a strange story. They had some more information about this on the "dont watch this podcast" the episode titled "staring contest."
It’s a cult that protects its own…if they’re rich and famous.
It was nice knowing you Dr Grande
Waiting for a video about the canadian parliament nazi scandal😊
I know right? That dude wasn’t just any ole Nazi like the Wehrmacht. No, this cat was in the Waffen SS. Even one of Hitler’s top general, Rommel would not let the SS serve with his troops in Africa.
@@Alpha_Omega_1541How old is this person?
@@LDiamondz- 98
It's a bit more complicated. He was a 17 yr old Ukrainian who was conscripted or volunteered into a German SS group (regular army didn't take non Germans) because he wanted to fight the Soviets after they genocided millions of people in Ukraine during the Holomdomore the previous decade. That said it's horrible optics are the Canadian gov is beyond stupid for not vetting.
Trudeau is such an incredible sleazebag
It’s fascinating the accusers went to the “church” to not only report the allegations, but seek permission to contact law enforcement
Wow
He was a creep in the movie face off too! Must’ve been an easy role for him.
Thank you so much for this analysis ❤