Baby Jessica and Robert O'Donnell | Dangers of Media Attention for Heroes

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Robert O’Donnell, who was one of the paramedics who rescued Jessica McClure (aka “Baby Jessica”)?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 693

  • @whodey2112
    @whodey2112 2 роки тому +341

    As someone who is claustrophobic, I consider his act to be heroic and could understand how doing this could be very traumatic.

    • @Hollylivengood
      @Hollylivengood 2 роки тому +16

      Hell yes. Some people wouldn't even have done it, just from freezing.

    • @pamelajordan2890
      @pamelajordan2890 2 роки тому +15

      Yes if your not claustrophobic you can't imagine how brave he was... though I wouldn't wish it on anyone...do you also experience agoraphobia?

    • @dyshawnshine3644
      @dyshawnshine3644 2 роки тому +7

      I understand that part. But I don’t see how it led to him thinking he would be a movie star and then being that upset that it didn’t turn out that way.

    • @pamelajordan2890
      @pamelajordan2890 2 роки тому +7

      @@dyshawnshine3644 sometimes when you have a lot of fears... people feel isolated ..and many of these .. disorders stem from trauma ... mainly childhood abuse..so you find yourself looking for something to fulfill that need.,. doesn't always turn out so good😿😢

    • @pamelajordan2890
      @pamelajordan2890 2 роки тому +7

      Peaple can be so cruel...and the cruelest are usually the one's who are looking for the same thing.
      Sad world sometimes

  • @rachelv9408
    @rachelv9408 2 роки тому +230

    Dr. Grande- I’ve been meaning to tell you this, but I appreciate that when you speak of suicide, you use the term “bringing an end to one’s life.” I feel that is the most respectful way to speak about that topic. My mother brought an end to her life eight years ago and it is still fresh to me, but your respectful words are truly touching as a suicide loss survivor. Thank you, Dr. Grande 💜

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +17

      I'm very sorry for your loss. Dr. Grande really is very respectful, when it's called for. ❤❤❤

    • @jkgent4087
      @jkgent4087 2 роки тому +21

      My daughter did the same 30 years ago. She was 14. At that time the expression “died by suicide” was just starting to be used. Now it is always used in the media, and I really appreciate that. This phrase replaced “committed” or “successful attempt” or “killed self”.
      Thank you Dr. Grande for referring to suicide in such a comforting manner.
      The most egregious uncaring, ignorant reference i hear people say is how selfish the act is in light of the pain left behind. Oh, boy, how I wish my daughter had been feeling selfish instead of the overwhelming drive to escape severe, overwhelming mental anguish. There is no room for ANY other thought. The analogy I find most apt is that one is in an overheated room with no way out and no end in sight.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +6

      @@jkgent4087 I'm sorry for your loss. ❤
      You make so many good points. Most people are clueless about this. Perhaps you should put this comment in the main area. You could help educate a lot of people.
      It's not selfish. It's stopping the never ending pain. ❤❤

    • @jkgent4087
      @jkgent4087 2 роки тому +2

      @@LDiamondz Thank you.

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 2 роки тому +1

      I am so sorry 😞.

  • @JaimeMesChiens
    @JaimeMesChiens 2 роки тому +69

    Thank you. That was a wonderful synopsis and analysis.
    Of note: Jessica has grown up to be a lovely woman. She’s married with a few children and is a pre-school teacher.
    Her husband seems devoted to her, she’s really smart and pretty, and the children seem happy and well adjusted.
    I think one reason she’s done so well is that she has moved on from being that famous Baby Jessica.

    • @dalehoward3704
      @dalehoward3704 2 роки тому +8

      It's great the adult Jessica is doing well. Thanks!

    • @morticiaheisenberg9679
      @morticiaheisenberg9679 2 роки тому +5

      Thank you for her update. That is so great to hear. Good for her❤

    • @JuanSoto-ws5ch
      @JuanSoto-ws5ch Рік тому

      Jesus Christ loves you repent from all sins amen

  • @noelleknuth6819
    @noelleknuth6819 2 роки тому +222

    It’s sad he didn’t get the help he needed. If he’s tried a few times already, He should have already been receiving mental help. He was a firefighter and paramedic, regardless of saving a baby from the well, he already was a hero.

    • @louniece1650
      @louniece1650 2 роки тому +23

      It's a straight lie that if a person tries multiple times to get the mental health care that is needed......that it will happen. Unfortunately, there are many factors that are involved. I am currently living this reality. It's frustrating. Many people genuinely have NO CLUE about the 'realities of life' that exist.😪🤷‍♀️

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +7

      @@louniece1650 I agree. There are many factors that prevent someone from getting the right help, despite how hard they try. I've seen it happen with a loved one. It is a nightmare. I wish you well. ❤❤

    • @DH-ve5bl
      @DH-ve5bl 2 роки тому +6

      @ Norlle Knute. I agree that Mr. O’Donnell was already a hero by his choice of career. It seems like he must have had low self esteem to be so captivated by fame. And what about his sons? He left two boys fatherless.

    • @JuanSoto-ws5ch
      @JuanSoto-ws5ch Рік тому +1

      Jesus Christ loves you repent from all sins amen

    • @livingnatural4295
      @livingnatural4295 5 місяців тому +1

      He has suffered from migraines since he was a kid and after this event, they got worse. No dr could figure out why they happened. Imagine trying to figure out an issue that affected every aspect of your life, finding no answers, then having yourself thrust into the limelight for a while, only to be dropped just as quick. He was a hero who had his own demons.

  • @OisO8
    @OisO8 2 роки тому +95

    I liked this analysis. Sounds like he transferred all his PTSD into hopes of stardom as an escape. There's a euphoria after completing something you thought you couldn't. Him being claustrophobic and still going down a second time to help her and he succeeded! No doubt that euphoria, the PTSD, and the sudden attention was very confusing for him.

    • @sunnydelight5255
      @sunnydelight5255 Місяць тому

      I think you summed up what happened to him the best. It’s complex and strange why he acted the way he did afterwards.

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku 2 роки тому +12

    So many people remember that story of Baby Jessica, but it was incredibly interesting to learn about how that famous rescue mission so badly affected one of the main rescuers!
    Very sad that he let the fame consume him so badly that it literally destroyed his life!
    Great video Dr. Grande!!

  • @CherylFlynn1
    @CherylFlynn1 2 роки тому +26

    This case reminds me of Chesley Sullenburger the pilot who landed a plane load of passengers on the Hudson River. When I see news clips of reunions of the people on board that flight all I can imagine is that people need heroes, need to believe in something. Sully is perceived as a hero even though it was just a circumstance in which he found himself. When he’s interviewed I get a sense he is simply playing along with the perceptions of himself as a hero, but he appears to have retained his humbleness and authentic sense of self. I can see him and his family walking to the car shaking their heads at the absurdity of the media attention and public perception .

  • @brianpratt3224
    @brianpratt3224 2 роки тому +231

    Oh yes Jessica McClure, you may remember her from films like "baby Jessica" and "the rescue"

    • @rg6310
      @rg6310 2 роки тому +15

      Damn the Simpson creators are aliens

    • @beckiehubley5798
      @beckiehubley5798 2 роки тому +2

      I remember hearing updates on the news as it happened.

    • @beebeelicious
      @beebeelicious 2 роки тому

      Brilliant

    • @michaelm7422
      @michaelm7422 2 роки тому

      Or the age myself/ all the media attention and the the nonstop 24 hour live news feed

    • @Karmen2010
      @Karmen2010 2 роки тому

      I remember when it was covered on the news at the time and the movie. They're memorable titles for some of us.

  • @jessa.4529
    @jessa.4529 2 роки тому +5

    I remember praying for her at dinner time as a child some 30 yrs ago

  • @ChristinePerez903
    @ChristinePerez903 2 роки тому +20

    Media attention can be fickle. They love it but get bored eventually
    Great analysis Dr Grande!!!

  • @muellerphyllis
    @muellerphyllis 2 роки тому +10

    I remember sitting in front of the TV the whole time watching her rescue. We all prayed and cried for that baby. I will never forget it.

  • @lynncrf
    @lynncrf 2 роки тому +9

    This is one of the saddest cases you have ever done. Poor Robert. ♥️

  • @VegemiteQueen1
    @VegemiteQueen1 2 роки тому +176

    'I'm a hero for staying awake for 48 hours!' Ma'am, sir, please don't ever have children.

  • @MichelleonaHike
    @MichelleonaHike 2 роки тому +4

    Rescue 911 was my absolute favorite show- I was glued to this story and rescue! I didn’t think I could love you anymore- but I do!! Thanks for doing this - It was heartbreaking to watch these men!

  • @GGiblet
    @GGiblet 2 роки тому +37

    I watched the rescue with the rest of the world but had no idea about all this until now and it's so sad! I wish things had gone differently for him. I think your analysis is spot on Doc, and migraines can be so debilitating. Fabulous video on a sad topic💙👏💙

  • @LDiamondz
    @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +37

    I'd consider Robert a hero. Despite being claustrophobic, he went down a narrow opening and saved the little girl. That could have been one reason he may have had PTSD from the rescue. It's a shame he valued media attention above all else after this. A true hero, lessened by pride. I feel very sad in the way this played out for him. On top of the world briefly, only to crash back down just as quickly. He may have had issues before this incident that played into his need for hero worship. Thank you for this very thoughtful, and respectful analysis, Dr.Grande. You're really the best. ❤

  • @lisab6547
    @lisab6547 2 роки тому +7

    I remember all of this including when she was rescued. My dad pointed out the hand signals that one man was giving to the winch operator. It's so sad that Robert didn't get the mental help he needed. And migraines are pure evil!!! They can be absolutely debilitating but people tend to think they are just a bad headache. I haven't had one since June of 2020 but before that I would get them 2 or 3 times a week. R.I.P. Robert

  • @glendasully
    @glendasully 2 роки тому +2

    I remember being glued to the TV during this rescue, but I had no idea of what happened afterwards. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for the rest of the story.

  • @logicalblackman8228
    @logicalblackman8228 2 роки тому +8

    Such a sad outcome. He literally saved that baby’s life.

  • @jamesgoward5687
    @jamesgoward5687 2 роки тому +44

    Irrelevant aside: The Simpsons parodied the Baby Jessica event in an episode. The public turns its back on Bart when they discover he has been pretending to be a younger child

    • @michaelcallaghan3070
      @michaelcallaghan3070 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, I think it was the 'Timmy o' Toole, down the well ', episode. I watched that many times. 👍😎

    • @MinPinSteve
      @MinPinSteve 2 роки тому +8

      This is one of my favorite episodes, especially where’s Kristy and Sting write a song together. “Sending our love down the well.”

    • @TJDious
      @TJDious 2 роки тому +9

      @@MinPinSteve This isn't isn't about show business, it's about some kid down a hole, or something, and we've all got to do what we can.
      -Sting

    • @johnjohnmcclane1818
      @johnjohnmcclane1818 2 роки тому +2

      ..and we're sending out love down that well DOWN THAT WELL

  • @lonewanderer480
    @lonewanderer480 2 роки тому +12

    Great analysis Doc. I didn't know that one of The rescuers eventually killed themselves. I feel a little sad for the guy. It's a shame that he couldn't just move on with his life and do other things. This is a good lesson for anyone who provides a service to the people. Keep doing the job you love and don't feed on praise.

  • @charlesduboise5198
    @charlesduboise5198 2 роки тому +20

    This reminds me of Melvin Purvis he was an FBI agent from back in the 30s he became famous for bring down gangsters like John Dillinger and after the spot light was off of him he shot himself with a revolver that they said was given to him by J Edgar Hoover
    When fame fades your only left with your own thoughts

    • @sandrasanders706
      @sandrasanders706 2 роки тому +5

      Hoover treated Purvis like garbage. Because Purvis was getting more publicity than his boss, Hoover destroyed his career. Pathetic man Hoover was.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +4

      @@sandrasanders706 Yup. Hoover was horrible to him. Hoover was many things, but a good man was not one of them.

  • @karenmazzacone5906
    @karenmazzacone5906 2 роки тому +9

    This was crazy when it happened!! I remember staying glued to my TV the whole time. I can only imagine the emotional toll it took on everyone. 😔

  • @melodi996
    @melodi996 2 роки тому +43

    It's sad that it seems nobody helped him with his problems, he bragged about his heroism, but he also was using painkillers and his wife just sent him away from their house? Why does it always happens so nobody cares about those people until they're dead?

    • @PapaBrejj
      @PapaBrejj 2 роки тому +8

      Tbf it isn't that simple to get a loved one with addiction help. He'd been sent to rehab multiple times as well, so it wasn't like they didn't try addressing it clinically.
      If he had 2 sons, why would their mother want them to see their dad passed/strung out? I don't think you can blame her for removing him from their household, I've been in the same situation with my Dad who eventually commited suicide. It just isn't that simple unfortunately.

    • @shelleybradford3395
      @shelleybradford3395 2 роки тому

      His wife left him because he stayed depressed all the time once his fame died down and he became a drug addict. His coworkers couldn’t stand his constant bragging. My heart goes out to his kids. Even his little boy said why couldn’t he wait till I turned 11? He was fixing to have a birthday. This man died of an ego problem.

  • @joshthemediocre7824
    @joshthemediocre7824 2 роки тому +44

    This is one that has affected me my entire life. This happened when i was a child, i remember watching it all play out as a kid. At some point of pulling her out they mention they pulled her hip out of place, being a kid i had no idea where the hip was on the body, but that statement about her hip made me think about my foot for some reason, everytime i seen anything about this story or even thought about it i would get that same sensation in my foot. This went on for long after i knew where the hip was on the body, i never had that happen with anything else in my life but to this day just seeing this makes my foot feel weird, it's the strangest thing.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +7

      You must have been a very empathetic child. ❤

    • @lyzzlyzzy1023
      @lyzzlyzzy1023 2 роки тому +3

      Sorry but lol

  • @uralbob1
    @uralbob1 2 роки тому +4

    This is so 'friggin sad. I had no idea this happened. Thank you for this episode.

    • @kimberlysmith7311
      @kimberlysmith7311 2 роки тому +1

      I didn't either. I like watching notable things on this channel because he delivers it with maturity, and objectively . He doesn't dramatize sad things for entertainment. Very sad story, yes.

    • @missnellaful
      @missnellaful 2 роки тому +2

      He acted on human nature as an emergency responder, and sadly, was turned into a HERO. WITHOUT ACTING LESSONS, OR MUSICIANS TO BACK HIM UP. We must guard our privacy.

  • @beautifullysaid8370
    @beautifullysaid8370 2 роки тому +281

    This is really sad. Robert overcame his claustrophobia to squeeze down the well to attempt to rescue Jessica, twice. He was a hero. I agree he had PTSD.

    • @dyshawnshine3644
      @dyshawnshine3644 2 роки тому +6

      But why would he be so bent on being a moviestar? And be so devastated when it didn’t happen? I understand the media attention getting to his head but never has recusing led to superstardom at least not from what I’ve seen over the years.

    • @hamsterama
      @hamsterama 2 роки тому +11

      @@dyshawnshine3644 This guy really should have enjoyed his 15 minutes of fame and moved on. The rest of the world moved on. He should have just gone back to being a nobody. There's nothing wrong with being a nobody. I agree with you, just because you rescued someone, doesn't mean you can be a big Hollywood movie star. Seems like Robert was totally disconnected from reality.

    • @piperjaycie
      @piperjaycie 2 роки тому +4

      People with PTSD don’t voluntarily and repeatedly expose themselves to the thing that gave them the trauma. They avoid it at all costs which is one of the reasons it is so hard to treat even in therapy.

    • @Melinda8162
      @Melinda8162 2 роки тому +5

      @@dyshawnshine3644 Well, it seems to me that 'evidently' (maybe) that was a ' taste' of fame he never could imagine and he got really enamored with it and wished it could go on!
      I don't know for sure and I can't name anything right now but, I do think there have been a couple instances where someone did come into a situation where they did something outstanding and it did lead to some opportunities of offers!
      I mean, you just can't tell and why some people all of a sudden do attain some noteriety over something and 'someone' just pops up and offers them something lucrative because they are simply 'known' for some outstanding achievement.
      And, yeah they are able to milk it for a time! If you get what I'm saying, hard to explain because most of the time it is amazing that it happens!
      But, I wouldn't mind being famous for at least a day!!! 😁. 🤸. 💃

    • @Gitn2it
      @Gitn2it 2 роки тому +8

      What Robert lacked was humility. There were many heroes involved in the rescue of baby Jessica. It was a TEAM effort. The other heroes went home quietly, unrecognized for what they contributed but happy that they helped save a life. No one member of a sports team wins a championship alone. Even when singled out as the MVP, that player makes sure to credit the efforts of his teammates for his success. I am not blaming Robert for his misfortunes, he was simply naive and caught up in a whirlwind. The media loves to create heroes and then tear them down. Unfortunately, Robert was still looking for confirmation from people who didn't even know him.

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 2 роки тому +27

    Please Doc, please give me a chance to catch my breath! I’m behind three episodes now!

    • @mrs.reluctant4095
      @mrs.reluctant4095 2 роки тому

      Same here. 🙂 👍

    • @thelocalmaladroit8873
      @thelocalmaladroit8873 2 роки тому +3

      @@mrs.reluctant4095 He’s a machine! 😂

    • @thelostronin
      @thelostronin 2 роки тому +4

      Speak for yourself I need him to double his output LOL!

    • @jonnybyrne989
      @jonnybyrne989 2 роки тому

      Also an episode were bart is trapped down a well,

    • @lg316
      @lg316 2 роки тому +3

      He's like the Eminem of mental health. He can't stop spittin' dope insights, but definitely not diagnoses. 🤣

  • @sarahhollister150
    @sarahhollister150 2 роки тому +34

    I think he felt very special in that moment and it gave him a real high. I would bet it’s the same way some people become addicted to gambling. I had a friend who used to go to Atlantic City occasionally to party. One time she went and she won $5000. She said it felt amazing and then she was always trying to capture that

  • @damesaphira9790
    @damesaphira9790 2 роки тому +61

    The "Baby Jessica incident" was horribly traumatic for me. My son was the exact age as she was. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, I prayed constantly and paced. I didn't know her, I didn't know any rescuers, I was in East Texas, they were in West Texas. I cried so hard in joy when I watched them pull her out of that shaft. To this day, I don't understand how this hit me so hard when I have lived thru many other traumas in my life with much more resilience.

    • @rebelliousraven
      @rebelliousraven 2 роки тому +15

      I was pregnant with my first child during the rescue. I too remember the whole thing...where I was, the news coverage etc.

    • @mustangnawt1
      @mustangnawt1 2 роки тому +8

      It was traumatic. Have heard a ton of horrible things as a true crime fan. I was 9 when it happened and know I will never forget it

    • @beckiehubley5798
      @beckiehubley5798 2 роки тому +4

      I was 13. I remember worrying and listening to media coverage.

    • @vrjanice2
      @vrjanice2 2 роки тому +13

      @@SpecialBlanket It sounds like empathy.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 2 роки тому +1

      Do you think you were processing those other traumas vicariously through this one?

  • @alexisalexi5161
    @alexisalexi5161 2 роки тому +18

    This and the Dooms Day Clock updates were some of my earliest news memories.
    Thank you for the reminder I am now a middle-aged lady.
    It's unfortunate when anyone feels they need to take their life. Our lives are more than one singular event & everyday is an opportunity for new experiences and healing.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 2 роки тому +1

      What are Doom day clock updates?

  • @TecOneself
    @TecOneself 2 роки тому +8

    You're the best Doctor Grande, thank you!!!!!! Time never fails when you're there.

  • @KeltonODonnell
    @KeltonODonnell 8 місяців тому +1

    This is my grandfather, I unfortunately never got to meet this amazing man. It is very interesting to hear all these videos from others who don’t know the real story of this amazing man he was. I love this man even though I never got to meet his amazing soul. Robert from your grandson you never met you are my hero no matter the outcome u made ur decision and I live with it everyday. If people only knew the real story of you, all these videos and documents would be so much brighter. Thank you dr for making this video to see my grandfather’s name still lives on really makes me happy. And thank you to everyone who watches and reads about my grandfather he was an amazing person and father.

  • @mamashanshan2772
    @mamashanshan2772 2 роки тому +1

    Oh wow, it was on local news even, my oldest was 1 1/2, that grab the world’s attention. When you said the fireman and baby Jessica it all came flooding back.

  • @jbw53191
    @jbw53191 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this analysis, Dr. Grande. It sounds like Robert became addicted to the euphoria of being a hero and when the euphoric recall couldn't be sustained, cross addiction to narcotics took place.

  • @misse7154
    @misse7154 2 роки тому +13

    Interesting story… I remember seeing this in the news but it's been a long time. Thank you Doctor Grande for sharing!

  • @lv7118
    @lv7118 2 роки тому +1

    When Dr Grande lists the ludicrous gifts Jessica received, the dryness physically burns.

  • @lindsayantwine1097
    @lindsayantwine1097 2 роки тому +3

    Of course everyone has heard of Baby Jessica but I had never heard about this guy. This is so incredibly sad. Another life lost because someone didn't have any recourse for failing mental health. Just the saddest thing. 😢

  • @angiedixon8017
    @angiedixon8017 2 роки тому +6

    The ego, sometimes we must work extra hard to keep it corralled, where it belongs.
    I wish there was an easy way to prevent suicide.
    Thank you for sharing this story.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +1

      I wish the same.

  • @joemunguia1228
    @joemunguia1228 2 роки тому +1

    I love how you just keep on furthering the information of their lives even after the “Rescue” it’s interesting to see how there lives have changed from such a brief event .. even to a man that once was a hero .. crumbled & became a shadow of his own self. How someone could do such a good thing from one moment & have their life just shattered in the next ..

  • @DenaDeniseRush
    @DenaDeniseRush 2 роки тому +3

    I remember this. It was such a victory to get her out of the well. Then it later became so tragic. There wasn’t really any sort of mental health support offered back in those days for first responders. 🚒💔

  • @LUCKSREVENGE
    @LUCKSREVENGE 2 роки тому +5

    I watched this on our very old tv. So suspenseful!

  • @thisxgreatxdecay
    @thisxgreatxdecay 2 роки тому +3

    Hey Dr. Grande, can you do a video not diagnosing, but speculating in what might be happening in the case of somebody like Max Landis, and analyzing his response to the allegations against him?

  • @Alex_Penjamin
    @Alex_Penjamin 2 роки тому +21

    Dr G! You should do a video on Rachel Dolezal

    • @mariagabrielle6383
      @mariagabrielle6383 2 роки тому +2

      Oh, yeah. The culturally-appropriating, black-face & afro-wearing imposter. It's sad when you have to impersonate a minority to get the privileges everyone says whites have. What a mess!

    • @uralbob1
      @uralbob1 2 роки тому

      He has.

    • @Alex_Penjamin
      @Alex_Penjamin 2 роки тому

      @@uralbob1 show me the link. I couldn’t find it

    • @uralbob1
      @uralbob1 2 роки тому

      @@Alex_Penjamin ok.

  • @jennylee5003
    @jennylee5003 2 роки тому +5

    They took him out of the movie wtf

  • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
    @Gunners_Mate_Guns Місяць тому

    If only there had been someone there for Robert to rescue him from the comedown after his incredible bravery.
    RIP, hero.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 2 роки тому +4

    I think it’s quite difficult to separate the concept of heroism from morality. We want heroes who not only perform extraordinary acts but also who possess fine qualities such as kindness, patience, compassion and modesty. Obviously that’s not feasible in real life.
    Fantastic analysis Dr. Grande. I truly enjoy discussions about heroes, it is one of my favorite topics.
    Thank you so much.❤️

    • @cottontails9003
      @cottontails9003 2 роки тому +1

      Rejane, if you get the time can you please read my comment on the Collapse of two miners, in Tasmania, who when the mine collapsed, one man died, and two others were trapped in the mine, for two weeks. Thank you😘

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 2 роки тому +1

      @@cottontails9003 Oh ok, reading now…

    • @cottontails9003
      @cottontails9003 2 роки тому +1

      @@rejaneoliveira5019 Thank you so much Rejane 😜

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 2 роки тому +1

      @@cottontails9003 Great stories Julianne, thanks for sharing!😉

  • @davidmenke7552
    @davidmenke7552 2 роки тому +2

    ❤💗💓 This was my question!!! This was my question!!! THANK YOU Doc!!!

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 2 роки тому +2

    Baby Jessica is 35-36 years old now.
    It would be ironic if they made a movie of Robert O’Donnell's life now, and how it ended.

  • @Slayyer420
    @Slayyer420 2 роки тому +2

    I really appreciate you analyzing this case because it's actually some one that at least I could slightly relate to. This is a normal guy choosing to work a very honorable job. This incident gave him a taste of something he never had, and it sounded to me like that rescue was pretty important and traumatic in a unique way to him. I feel alot for this guy. He definitely sounds like he was being arrogant about himself a little, but for the media to work their "magic" and then everyone turn on him for seeing himself as a hero along with them is pretty sucky. Maybe the real lesson to be learned is that nobody is " a hero" but everyone has the ability to be heroic. Take the media out of the situation, they ruin everything for everyone.

  • @lorirees4248
    @lorirees4248 2 роки тому +5

    Sounds like he may have had some major stress before the rescue - Migraines since age 8, underweight, and drug addiction - If he had poor self esteem and then had this positive attention that can be very appealing for someone who craved and needed validation. A person who has suffered trauma can become obsessed with chasing attention and validation.

  • @lisasmith7
    @lisasmith7 Рік тому

    We watched this continuously. It was amazing that they saved her.

  • @mmike1492
    @mmike1492 2 роки тому

    Never would have thought of any of this. Great work and insight and very informative.

  • @whoaaudio
    @whoaaudio 2 роки тому +1

    I was there. I was fifteen. I attended Lee Freshman in Midland. My Baby Jessica poem was published in the newspaper. My younger brother later attended Midland Christian his senior year of high school. Jessica was in sixth grade there.
    I hate to hear this. The media circus is idiotic. All of that noise over a kid falling into a hole.

  • @DigitalNeb
    @DigitalNeb Рік тому

    I'm so claustrophobic it was hard for me to listen to this. What an unbelievable heroic act.

  • @tammyblack2747
    @tammyblack2747 2 роки тому +1

    This reminds me of that episode of The Brady Bunch where Peter saved a girl from being hit by a toystore shelf that fell. He got all conceited about it and bragged to everyone how he was a hero.

  • @Terri_Hugs
    @Terri_Hugs 2 роки тому +3

    I didn't know anyone that wasn't distraught about little Jessica!
    Isn't it ironic that someone like 'Oprah' cashing in on people's tragedy and grief! Really hit home now!
    So sad that someone would let a moment in time like this become what define and eventually end their lives.

  • @willj1598
    @willj1598 2 роки тому +1

    Such a shame, so many first responders get stuck in a cycle where they need help but they are so afraid to talk about what's going on because they could be put on leave or retired and lose a big piece of their identity. One more area where we need to change the culture and stigma around mental health care.

    • @louniece1650
      @louniece1650 2 роки тому

      Not going to happen. Unfortunately.

  • @Mauirunner
    @Mauirunner 2 роки тому +5

    Dr. Grande, could you look into the case of Isabella Ariel Kalua’s death on the Big Island of Hawaii?

    • @theredrover3217
      @theredrover3217 2 роки тому

      Yes, please Dr. Grande, it is close to home (culture) and I would appreciate your insight.

    • @DirtySanchez943
      @DirtySanchez943 2 роки тому

      They prayed 2 big kahoona.

  • @ghadamamdouheskarous
    @ghadamamdouheskarous 2 роки тому

    People interest change. Very true Dr.Grande . Very understanding as usual

  • @noth1ng5id
    @noth1ng5id 2 роки тому

    I was born in 1979 and baby Jessica was the first news story I remember paying attention to

  • @michaeldundee8300
    @michaeldundee8300 2 роки тому

    I was thinking who on the crew , cleaned the station and mopped the bay floors that day. I always use this simple illustration to help rookie would be heroes.

  • @anonsaku39
    @anonsaku39 Рік тому

    One of my favorite Grande videos.

  • @willelliott5052
    @willelliott5052 Рік тому +1

    I think that with the media attention, he began to view his previously common life to be less than gratifying. He thought that he saw an opportunity that would rescue him, as he had rescued Jessica, and elevate him to greater status. He came to feel entitled to that greater status. He didn't understand how his immodesty alienated others. Then, psychologically, he had a long fall back to earth.

  • @Mr_Case_Time
    @Mr_Case_Time 2 роки тому +3

    “I’m not diagnosing anyone with a soda preference, merely speculating on what his soda preference might be in a situation like this.”

  • @SandyRiverBlue
    @SandyRiverBlue 2 роки тому +2

    Dude should have gotten an agent or several agents. He wasn't bad looking just unwise. His fire chief should have mandated a mental health screening and treatment because he was obviously suffering.

  • @queenreg7
    @queenreg7 2 роки тому

    Out of curiosity, I watched a recent update on Jessica’s life. Didn’t mention Mr. O’Donnell at all. I am so sorry he couldn’t move on and live a healthy life.

  • @DeannaCooney
    @DeannaCooney 2 роки тому +1

    I love your videos and you have the most calming voice:)

  • @Potionette81
    @Potionette81 Рік тому

    What a tragic story. Rest in peace Mr O'Donnell.

  • @grumpyoldlady_rants
    @grumpyoldlady_rants 2 роки тому +1

    My youngest son is about six weeks older than Jessica so I was riveted to my TV the whole time. I tried to imagine how it would be if that were my baby and I couldn't. I had no idea Robert went through all of this. Too bad he couldn't get the help he needed. What a sad ending.

  • @defundhollywood3259
    @defundhollywood3259 2 роки тому +4

    Dr Grande, if you ever want to revisit the issue of media heroes, you should do the Faron Hall case. I don't believe I've seen anyone cover it outside of Winnipeg. He was a homeless man who saved someone from drowning in the Red River. Tragedy ensued. I have a special hatred in my heart for Gordon Sinclair Jr, he's a local columnist who led the brigade crowning Hall a hero. It was sad to watch and the predictable outcome was just disgusting. It's like he's more valuable to the media as a dead hero than he was as a live, struggling human being.

    • @cottontails9003
      @cottontails9003 2 роки тому

      That is a tragic story.

    • @EloiseIsNotMyDog
      @EloiseIsNotMyDog 2 роки тому

      Never heard of this. Will Google it. Thanks!

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому

      Sounds like a very sad story. Interesting too.

  • @skajohncarter
    @skajohncarter 2 роки тому +2

    There was an entire Simpsons episode inspired by this incident. Bart faked a similar scenario and wound up actually trapped in the well. Only to be rescued by Sting.

  • @Iconoclasher
    @Iconoclasher 2 роки тому +1

    I remember when this happened. I also remember thinking, there's no better place for this to happen. Midland TX, right in the spot with about 10,000 oil wells. Some of the best well drilling technology in the world was right in the neighborhood.

  • @TheLurker1647
    @TheLurker1647 2 роки тому +2

    "Robert noted to his mother that the first responders would need years of counseling"
    Oh, so he found his true calling counselling first responders, right? What a happy endin-
    "...Robert retrieved a .410 gauge shotgun-"
    OH NOOOOOOOOO

    • @Oona707
      @Oona707 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly...that ending would have been MUCH better in my opinion lol

  • @leahhart3585
    @leahhart3585 2 роки тому +8

    I was ) years old when this happened. I remember my whole family just watching the news until they got her out. It’s the first new story memory I have.

    • @mariagabrielle6383
      @mariagabrielle6383 2 роки тому +1

      You were ) years old!?
      Very impressionable age, I'd say.

    • @leahhart3585
      @leahhart3585 2 роки тому

      @@mariagabrielle6383 lol 6 years old

  • @Jane-gh7er
    @Jane-gh7er 2 роки тому

    Being from San Angelo(just 90 miles away) this story was huge news.

  • @phyllisdevries5734
    @phyllisdevries5734 2 роки тому

    I watched this live on the news, for many days. I really felt for everyone

  • @redsloane9905
    @redsloane9905 2 роки тому

    How sad! I remember that event and had no idea this is what happened to Robert. Thank you for this!

  • @stanhankins3175
    @stanhankins3175 2 роки тому +1

    Moral of the story Do NOT save anymore from anything or you will be ruined and destroyed

  • @adrianjanssens7116
    @adrianjanssens7116 2 роки тому +1

    Him being cut from the movie reminds me of the two princes (William and Harry) who were cut as well from a Star Wars movie.

  • @petitio_principii
    @petitio_principii 2 роки тому

    Sad story. I hope therapists can prevent this kind of thing in the future. Although there may be something to be said about the role of media itself.

  • @burprobrox9134
    @burprobrox9134 2 роки тому +1

    I was 12 or so when this happened. Absolutely EVERYONE watched it on TV, it might be the first huge event in the cable tv era. Probably not, but the first I remember. After that was the wall coming down, then desert storm.

  • @sk8razer
    @sk8razer 3 місяці тому

    1:23 It's wild hearing this, considering how many cities have combined fire & EMS service now. Meaning that all of the government paramedics in those cities are also firefighters.
    It's also just super common for fire departments to train a portion of their fire fighters as paramedics. And most fire fighters are _at minimum_ certified EMTs. Though the EMR certification is still sometimes the minimum requirement.

  • @trialgoddess
    @trialgoddess 2 роки тому +2

    That was fascinating. It is a topic I would never have considered were it not for you, Dr. Grande. Thank you for more enrichment.

  • @cess4089
    @cess4089 2 роки тому

    So sad for baby Jess. Honestly her parents divorcing was worse than falling down a well. The family needed support and love and got handed a load of stress that ultimately hurt baby Jess for her entire life. So sad.

  • @birdworldist
    @birdworldist 2 роки тому +3

    Hugs 4 all

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 2 роки тому

    People, some people, can’t seem to just do things to be good humans. They’ve gotta be recognized. I’m glad you’re doing stories on both sides of the hero syndrome. Some people just do it because it’s the right thing to do!

  • @lozencolorado3326
    @lozencolorado3326 2 роки тому +1

    So sad. He was probably already a hero to his son and didn't see it.

  • @vikramgupta2326
    @vikramgupta2326 2 роки тому

    Really well stated. Sad story.

  • @ktwiri4443
    @ktwiri4443 Рік тому

    Thus is sad 😢....very sad.
    May his poor soul rest in peace 😢

  • @nozrep
    @nozrep 2 роки тому

    wow, never knew all the other details of what happened after. Terrible indeed. But oh man, what a throwback ‘childhood’ memory! My parents recorded the tv movie that was made on VHS and for a time I watched it over and over as a small child. I think that maybe I was enamored of it, or something like that, because I was almost the same age and just coming to understand in childhood awareness what being the same age is. Wow, what a childhood memory trigger!

  • @thelostronin
    @thelostronin 2 роки тому +3

    Great video as always Doc. I was unfamiliar with this case aside from the name as I was a child myself when it happened. By the way Ian Curtis video?

    • @thelostronin
      @thelostronin 2 роки тому

      Dude your gonna do it! I'm gonna be so happy!

  • @meagles1333
    @meagles1333 2 роки тому

    Excellent analysis Dr Grande. Very apt. Such a sad story about a man who made a very positive contribution to someone's life at a crucial moment. I agree, I think his obsession with fame was to some degree a distraction from the pain

  • @Big_Tex
    @Big_Tex 2 роки тому +9

    5:40 reminds me of last week when CNN tweeted on Veterans Day, sure, let’s honor veterans today but mostly let’s honor journalists ….

  • @kevinmoore2929
    @kevinmoore2929 Рік тому

    KMID reporter Rodney Wunsch was on site the longest of any local media. He was very humble about that experience. He did get therapy for the experience. He was the executive producer of the TV movie.

  • @TT-wx4tg
    @TT-wx4tg 2 роки тому +1

    Well done.

  • @christinley5213
    @christinley5213 2 роки тому +1

    I like how you mentioned about the Simpsons and how you noticed that.. i pay attention to stuff like that lol!! Thats a kool shirt doc.. diggin it!:)

  • @done805
    @done805 2 роки тому

    What such a sad heartbreaking story! I didn't know about this side of it and breaks my heart!

  • @morningcrimetime
    @morningcrimetime 2 роки тому +5

    Dr. G, how in the hell do you upload so much I would love to know your scripting and research process ❤️ absolutely love the videos.

  • @verityzhu6447
    @verityzhu6447 2 роки тому +2

    If only he had been ten years older. After a person turns forty an awareness mortality becomes a part of daily existence and fame seems like a big, annoying distraction from life.