What’s happening in the health industry is beyond alarming-it’s manipulation at its core. I urge everyone to read 'Health and Beauty Mastery' by Dr. Julian Bannett. It completely transformed how I approach my health!
I eat ruminant meat and non-starchy vegetables. I don't worry about fat since doing that I have lost about 30% of my body weight Ten lbs of fat to go. I gained a little muscle strength. Hip, back, knee pain greatly reduced.
Whenever I say that I eat a lower carb diet, people always assume I mean keto or Atkins. On the daily, I get around 120-180g of carbs some is from fruits. I eat some grains, but keep the servings small. I'll up those carbs if I'm out hiking, but that's for immediate energy use during activity. All my friends eat way, way too much added carbs and sugar while thinking it's part of a "healthy diet"
Same with me - I eat about 95-110 carbs (from sweet potatoes, berries & small amount of oats) - everyone I know eats just as your friends - way too much refined carbs (pasta, bread, etc).
I love Dr. Layman's point about the Dietary Guidelines eventually needing to view (essential) amino acids like vitamins with their own specific requirements. That will quickly solve, or change, defining plant-based "protein equvalents". I see the saturated fat conundrum in a similar light. There are short-chain, medium-chain, and long-chain saturated fats. Lumping them all together, as if they all have the same physiological effects, has never had scientific underpinnings (as a growing body of research on full-fat dairy and reduced risk of diabetes has shown). Beyond that, of course, saturated fats have long been part of the human diet, whereas polyunsaturated seed oils are an invention of industry. Great episode; thank you!
Wow, that's a lot to digest. As a male in my late 40s with a family history of heart disease. The ever changing information on nutrition feels like playing Russian roulette. I'm trying to dodge heart issues that might be brought on by personal food choices.
The information isn't ever changing if you look at physiology textbooks they state the same things as Donald Layman mentioned. For example, that eating carbohydrate raises insulin hormone level in the blood. Insulin inhibits fat mobilization and promotes fat storage. This is known for decades now. I suggest to check this popular science book on human metabolism: "Understanding Human Metabolism" by Keith Frayn, Emeritus Professor of Human Metabolism at the University of Oxford.
@@ScienceAppliedForGood Layman is not a centenarian with a proven long term track record in anything. High carb centenarians. 2010 study title: "Discovery of Novel Sources of Vitamin B12 in Traditional Korean Foods from Nutritional Surveys of Centenarians." These Korean centenarians consume a high carb diet with 87% of plant foods and 13% from animal foods. They have almost no access to synthetic vitamins, supplements or fortified foods. Centenarian men take in about 1700 calories per day and about 300 grams of carbs per day. These people are set in their ways they do not play games with diets or experiment with any type of money making fad diet.
Just listened on my morning walk. 69 YO postmenopausal victim of women's health study. Bordering on obesity, fighting osteopenia and working one on one with a personal trainer to help in all regards. Having upped protein goal to 125 grams / day carbs 125 /40 grams s pushing my limits on calories to lose weight. First objective is muscle and bone. Yes the fat is about total calories for me. I could set carbs lower but she says you do better with building muscle with adequate carbs (so still working on understanding that one)--I know Dr Layman often says 130 grams a day so a bit confused there if I even need that much. Years of vegetarian eating and knowing for a while that the only way I am going to get adequate protein is animal protein or processed plant proteins. It is a challenge when you get to be this age and don't need so many calories. Going with lean animal proteins vs processed plant proteins. Dr given go ahead to work with compounding pharmacist for bioidentical hormones. I don't have time to wait for all the studies and guidelines have let me down before. Glad I found Dr Layman and then you. Oddly many years ago there was an early 70s book called Diet for a small planet where (other than the protein levels recommended at the time) she was all about balancing the essential amino acids in proteins and she was widely panned for this. That said, with a degree in biochemistry, that morphed into another career field, I have full appreciation. Study area was lipid metabolism and so much that is coming out today was spot on wit with my undergraduate thesis director (though the metabolic roles of many of the lipids were still being fully developed). Love your podcast. My personal trainer who has a degree in exercise science is in line with your recommendations. The nutritionist at the doctors office is another story. How one gets a degree in nutrition and says leafy green vegetables are bad (oxalates) and beans are bad (phytates) has no idea of how to prep them and the nutritional roles they can play in terms, mainly, of vitamins and minerals. But whey isolate is a part of my daily life. My morning protein as well as post weight training. Love to use Cronometer though know even the RDAs are a stab in the dark as the food/fiber matrix all play roles in absorption of said nutrients etc.
Great information! The problem is not the guideline recommendations. Unfortunately, too many, if not, majority of people disregard the guideline and overeat in excess on junk food and UPF's and can easily get into caloric surplus. Guidelines will never incite people to take responsibility and to be accountable for their own body and health. The food industry just responds to the demand by making hyper palatable and calory dense food that people purchase. We are almost at a point, where the government has to step in and force the outcome by regulating the food industry to limit access to unhealthy junk food and UPF's to the people.
I have come to appreciate the content and perspective Dr. Gabrielle Lyon brings to the table. As an outsider (of the US), I am surprised that more discussion on the health of the animals conventionally raised for food in the US is not a major point to consider. I am often gobsmacked at the poor health of the average American living in the outskirts of major cities, and I imagine this is an unnatural phenomenon that arises beyond just not moving enough and having access to a lot of food. This is becoming more common globally, but Americans are unique in the extent of metabolic disease that is evident. I scrutinize all dairy products when visiting the US to ensure that that production was hormone- and antibiotic- free. The animals themselves raised for food have diabetes - so what do you expect those that eat this meat to develop? So, before advising to eat meat freely - perhaps there ought to be some advice on the quality of the food one is recommended to ingest.
Excellent conversation with some important , yet easy to digest topics. Thanks for clarifying the origins and difference between food pyramid and dietary guidelines/myplate. 👍
Follow the centenarians. High carb centenarians. 2010 study title: "Discovery of Novel Sources of Vitamin B12 in Traditional Korean Foods from Nutritional Surveys of Centenarians." These Korean centenarians consume a high carb diet with 87% of plant foods and 13% from animal foods. They have almost no access to synthetic vitamins, supplements or fortified foods. Centenarian men take in about 1700 calories per day and about 300 grams of carbs per day. These people are set in their ways they do not play games with diets or experiment with any type of money making fad diet.
I feel like I’ve been brainwashed my whole life, especially about eggs. I’ve only recently resumed eating eggs nearly every day. I was told years ago by a registered dietitian that eating two eggs a day is too much cholesterol and that a healthier option is oatmeal. Don’t get me wrong, I love oatmeal, but eggs are good for you and it’s wrong to tell someone to replace them with carbs.
Advertising campaigns connected fruits and vegetables together like there one word and then bumped up the sugar in the fruit that are available. The Department of Agriculture And the snack food industry Melded together too.
I'd love to see sources for the studies mentioned around 0:27:00 Ronald Krauss Co-authored a lot of papers and the closest one I could find based on your claim had the opposite conclusion to what you said.
It was a very good talk. Carbs are the main problem just as David Ludwig's Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of obesity postulates and which is supported by mounting evidence.
Seriously one of the comments was eating isolates is not good in diets , was talking about dark green lettuce . THAT IS TALKED ABOUT WITH seemed with an all meat dieters Say also I wonder if you doctors could comment , thank You !
”Protein restriction down to recommended levels is the only intervention I could find that slows down all the aging pathways.” / Michael Greger, author of How Not to Age
1) people don’t follow the dietary guidlines, they eat mostly ultraprocessad junk. 2) the solution is not to eat lots of red meat and butter. The solution is to eat Fruits, vegetables , whole grains, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds, mushrooms, herbs, spices, olive oil and maybe some fish.
The concept of health in "The 23 Former Doctor Truths" book completely explains this. I wish I read it sooner.
What’s happening in the health industry is beyond alarming-it’s manipulation at its core. I urge everyone to read 'Health and Beauty Mastery' by Dr. Julian Bannett. It completely transformed how I approach my health!
I got it, truly a good book
Link please!
@@chrissyyankeejust Google it
Have you read, Good Energy, by Casey and Calley Means!? 🤯
always look forward to dr layman as a guest
Dr Don Layman is a G!!
I eat ruminant meat and non-starchy vegetables. I don't worry about fat since doing that I have lost about 30% of my body weight Ten lbs of fat to go. I gained a little muscle strength. Hip, back, knee pain greatly reduced.
Whenever I say that I eat a lower carb diet, people always assume I mean keto or Atkins. On the daily, I get around 120-180g of carbs some is from fruits. I eat some grains, but keep the servings small. I'll up those carbs if I'm out hiking, but that's for immediate energy use during activity. All my friends eat way, way too much added carbs and sugar while thinking it's part of a "healthy diet"
Same with me - I eat about 95-110 carbs (from sweet potatoes, berries & small amount of oats) - everyone I know eats just as your friends - way too much refined carbs (pasta, bread, etc).
Excellent conversation. Great questions and great, thorough answers.
Such a shame that dietary guidelines are more about politics and dogma than they are about nutrition and the health of the public😢
I love Dr. Layman's point about the Dietary Guidelines eventually needing to view (essential) amino acids like vitamins with their own specific requirements. That will quickly solve, or change, defining plant-based "protein equvalents". I see the saturated fat conundrum in a similar light. There are short-chain, medium-chain, and long-chain saturated fats. Lumping them all together, as if they all have the same physiological effects, has never had scientific underpinnings (as a growing body of research on full-fat dairy and reduced risk of diabetes has shown). Beyond that, of course, saturated fats have long been part of the human diet, whereas polyunsaturated seed oils are an invention of industry. Great episode; thank you!
Wow, that's a lot to digest. As a male in my late 40s with a family history of heart disease. The ever changing information on nutrition feels like playing Russian roulette. I'm trying to dodge heart issues that might be brought on by personal food choices.
The information isn't ever changing if you look at physiology textbooks they state the same things as Donald Layman mentioned. For example, that eating carbohydrate raises insulin hormone level in the blood. Insulin inhibits fat mobilization and promotes fat storage. This is known for decades now. I suggest to check this popular science book on human metabolism: "Understanding Human Metabolism" by Keith Frayn, Emeritus Professor of Human Metabolism at the University of Oxford.
@@ScienceAppliedForGood Layman is not a centenarian with a proven long term track record in anything. High carb centenarians. 2010 study title: "Discovery of Novel Sources of Vitamin B12 in Traditional Korean Foods from Nutritional Surveys of Centenarians." These Korean centenarians consume a high carb diet with 87% of plant foods and 13% from animal foods. They have almost no access to synthetic vitamins, supplements or fortified foods. Centenarian men take in about 1700 calories per day and about 300 grams of carbs per day. These people are set in their ways they do not play games with diets or experiment with any type of money making fad diet.
Just listened on my morning walk. 69 YO postmenopausal victim of women's health study. Bordering on obesity, fighting osteopenia and working one on one with a personal trainer to help in all regards. Having upped protein goal to 125 grams / day carbs 125 /40 grams s pushing my limits on calories to lose weight. First objective is muscle and bone. Yes the fat is about total calories for me. I could set carbs lower but she says you do better with building muscle with adequate carbs (so still working on understanding that one)--I know Dr Layman often says 130 grams a day so a bit confused there if I even need that much.
Years of vegetarian eating and knowing for a while that the only way I am going to get adequate protein is animal protein or processed plant proteins. It is a challenge when you get to be this age and don't need so many calories. Going with lean animal proteins vs processed plant proteins. Dr given go ahead to work with compounding pharmacist for bioidentical hormones. I don't have time to wait for all the studies and guidelines have let me down before. Glad I found Dr Layman and then you. Oddly many years ago there was an early 70s book called Diet for a small planet where (other than the protein levels recommended at the time) she was all about balancing the essential amino acids in proteins and she was widely panned for this.
That said, with a degree in biochemistry, that morphed into another career field, I have full appreciation. Study area was lipid metabolism and so much that is coming out today was spot on wit with my undergraduate thesis director (though the metabolic roles of many of the lipids were still being fully developed). Love your podcast. My personal trainer who has a degree in exercise science is in line with your recommendations. The nutritionist at the doctors office is another story. How one gets a degree in nutrition and says leafy green vegetables are bad (oxalates) and beans are bad (phytates) has no idea of how to prep them and the nutritional roles they can play in terms, mainly, of vitamins and minerals. But whey isolate is a part of my daily life. My morning protein as well as post weight training.
Love to use Cronometer though know even the RDAs are a stab in the dark as the food/fiber matrix all play roles in absorption of said nutrients etc.
Great information! The problem is not the guideline recommendations. Unfortunately, too many, if not, majority of people disregard the guideline and overeat in excess on junk food and UPF's and can easily get into caloric surplus. Guidelines will never incite people to take responsibility and to be accountable for their own body and health. The food industry just responds to the demand by making hyper palatable and calory dense food that people purchase. We are almost at a point, where the government has to step in and force the outcome by regulating the food industry to limit access to unhealthy junk food and UPF's to the people.
I have come to appreciate the content and perspective Dr. Gabrielle Lyon brings to the table. As an outsider (of the US), I am surprised that more discussion on the health of the animals conventionally raised for food in the US is not a major point to consider. I am often gobsmacked at the poor health of the average American living in the outskirts of major cities, and I imagine this is an unnatural phenomenon that arises beyond just not moving enough and having access to a lot of food. This is becoming more common globally, but Americans are unique in the extent of metabolic disease that is evident. I scrutinize all dairy products when visiting the US to ensure that that production was hormone- and antibiotic- free. The animals themselves raised for food have diabetes - so what do you expect those that eat this meat to develop? So, before advising to eat meat freely - perhaps there ought to be some advice on the quality of the food one is recommended to ingest.
Excellent conversation with some important , yet easy to digest topics.
Thanks for clarifying the origins and difference between food pyramid and dietary guidelines/myplate.
👍
Fantastic episode 🔥
With the guidelines needing changes, where is the best source of food examples to plan meals?
Follow the centenarians. High carb centenarians. 2010 study title: "Discovery of Novel Sources of Vitamin B12 in Traditional Korean Foods from Nutritional Surveys of Centenarians." These Korean centenarians consume a high carb diet with 87% of plant foods and 13% from animal foods. They have almost no access to synthetic vitamins, supplements or fortified foods. Centenarian men take in about 1700 calories per day and about 300 grams of carbs per day. These people are set in their ways they do not play games with diets or experiment with any type of money making fad diet.
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I feel like I’ve been brainwashed my whole life, especially about eggs. I’ve only recently resumed eating eggs nearly every day. I was told years ago by a registered dietitian that eating two eggs a day is too much cholesterol and that a healthier option is oatmeal. Don’t get me wrong, I love oatmeal, but eggs are good for you and it’s wrong to tell someone to replace them with carbs.
Advertising campaigns connected fruits and vegetables together like there one word and then bumped up the sugar in the fruit that are available.
The Department of Agriculture And the snack food industry
Melded together too.
Except for that high level of maltodextrin I quit using lmnt
Try SaltT from keto chow
🤣 400 mg
I'd love to see sources for the studies mentioned around 0:27:00 Ronald Krauss Co-authored a lot of papers and the closest one I could find based on your claim had the opposite conclusion to what you said.
You didn’t offend me 😀 great discussion
Actually x number of drinks will raise alcohol blood levels …. Based on body weight… absolutes tend to be somewhat rare in nutrition/life…
Top ov the morning to ya gabrielle the king is back few technical problems 😘☝
It was a very good talk. Carbs are the main problem just as David Ludwig's Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of obesity postulates and which is supported by mounting evidence.
It is disproved day after day after day. Youre choosing to believe select malinformation at best, or believing in unscience at worst.
Seriously one of the comments was eating isolates is not good in diets , was talking about dark green lettuce . THAT IS TALKED ABOUT WITH seemed with an all meat dieters Say also I wonder if you doctors could comment , thank You !
Excellent
No money in a cure...
Absolutely. Nothing like a pharmacologically dependent repeat customer who starts as a child on ozempic.
The shirt😂❤
”Protein restriction down to recommended levels is the only intervention I could find that slows down all the aging pathways.” / Michael Greger, author of How Not to Age
First of all, would following the plate or pyramid help someone lose weight and stay healthy?
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@ ty
1) people don’t follow the dietary guidlines, they eat mostly ultraprocessad junk. 2) the solution is not to eat lots of red meat and butter.
The solution is to eat Fruits, vegetables , whole grains, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds, mushrooms, herbs, spices, olive oil and maybe some fish.
Bluebird