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PREDATOR 5000 GENERATOR PROBLEMS
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2023
- Predator predator 5000 inverter generator super quiet inverter generator
“YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE A EMAIL UNLESS ITS A TRUE RECALL “ After talking with several stores I was able to gather some info to get you the latest scoop. Hopefully these are back soon. Let me know if your has issues if you own it! #Predator #generator #recalled #harborfreight
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Really excellent, articulate, and technologically adept reviews...very impressive.
You are always the first one to push these updates, thank you!
You’re welcome..👍🏼😀
Was just going to buy one
Thank-you so very much I had one in box still in the garage and returned it yesterday. They didn't say a thing to me about a recall. I showed them the PO on the box and they looked it up and guess what? Disaster averted. I bought a Champion and extended warranty. Thanks again!
Awesome !! Yup mine goes back tomorrow.
Seemed like such a good unit but it happens
Thank you for the update the harbor freight in my area does not even have the 5000 on their website anymore. I have the older 3500 with the other engine still doing very well only have 100 hours on it I did buy one of their open frame 4550 inverter. It’s doing well. It has the 223cc engine it is just slightly louder than the 3500. The only problem out of the newer one is the carbon monoxide sensor went out, so it kept shutting off every 20 minutes of runtime, but it is fixed now
Great video with the updates from HF, and also - revealing that the Champion 4500 has the same engine as the Predator 3500, (and is slightly quieter and cheaper!) Hopefully once the bugs are worked out of the Predator 5000, that will be a great unit too. It would nice if HF offered the 5000 at a super discounted price, to show good will towards the issues they are having. Also, I have an idea for a future video for you - discussing the different brand generators and which companies make which units. There are so many clones, and clones of clones, it's hard to keep them straight anymore.
Uhh there are so many made by the few manufacturers out there. It’s hard to keep up. I have mentioned it before in some videos much like this.
And thank you btw ..👍🏼😀
Made me smile at the end of the video. I returned 2 5000 generators because of problems I was having. Ended up with the Champion 4500. And while a couple of hundred less output on propane, it has been humming along perfectly. Propane is a must for me. :)
Also, you get 60 or 90 days warranty with the predator, Champion gives you 3 years.
Awesome glad you liked. Champion still one of the best! 👍🏼😀
HF gives a 2 year warranty on their Predator Gens
This is their warranty from HF site under warranty information "We guarantee this product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship 90 days from the date of purchase. Limitations apply." Not sure where the 2 years comes from.
@@davidmorcos1463 I stand corrected, your 100% right. That leads me to another point then; Why would ANYONE in their right mind but any generator with a 90 day warranty?
You sir ask a very good question.
Great report can’t go wrong with a champion. I own it doesn’t other dual fuels various models. They have great support Harbor freight’s been good sport also.
Thank you 👍🏼😀
Reference the predator 5000: I was told by HF customer service the serial numbers affected are 230615xxxxx thru 230628xxxxx. Harbor Freight will replace these units when new units become available . Estimated time is december or january . The serial number is located behind the starter embossed on the side of the engine.
I tried to get serial numbers but they had no info on that. I asked well what if people got rid of the boxes then what……..silence lol.
Looks like GM7250iEDC is also good choice for this range.
Told any shipping 12/20 or later are good.
Just bought a Predator 5000 in Arizona a few weeks ago and been running it at home for a break in period before camping and using it with the RV. I do have the box still, so will check with my local HF store to see if it may be a problem.
One advantage for the propane I want to mention is that I camp at high altitude (9,000 ft.) and the ability to run propane negates the need to re jet the carb...although at least they do provide different jets with the unit which is nice! Still gonna lose some capacity at that altitude though....instead of 3600 watts, probably be more like 3200 or so...
About 3% loss for every 1000ft
The generation 2 version of this generator is in stock now at most stores. The UPC code on the updated units ends with 16077. The UPC code is located on a label below the muffler exhaust port.
Wondering what they changed….
They didn't have that information.@@johnnysweekends
@mancavechronicles2139 yea I wouldn’t think they would. Guess I have to dig for info lol
thanks! saved my day
The Honda $$$ and the GenMax units with Electronic Fuel Injection really have my attention now. Carb/fuel maintenance less of an issue. Plus the GenMax is the light weight winner in the 4500watt or so weight class at under 60 lbs.
nah. your gas tank will still rust out. just dont be lazy and not do proper maintenance
My genmax with efi lasted 15 hours, and now it won't run. Hopefully they will fix it under warranty
@diverdarrell what happened? Curious? Keep us updated
@johnnysweekends will do, just put in a support ticket. It's really an awesome generator when it was working. I'm sure it's because I bought one if the first ones. Just sucked because we're at a music festival, and are thankful that today isn't as hot, and we have enough juice in the batteries to make it one more day.
Good job😮
I have the older 3500 with a Loncin engine. Probably, they went fore cheaper options in later versions. Unfortunately, almost all HF products have gone down in quality and up in price lately.
Im on my 2nd Predator 5000 with the overloading issue. Im gonna take this one back today and see.
Wow interesting, thanks for the feedback back.
Just picked up the 5000. Hopefully it doesn’t have issues. I’ve seen many videos on it and it seems to be a good item.
I think most are fixed. Get the warranty
@@Oharsh0928 recently picked one up. So far so good, perhaps the issues they had were fixed?!
I've had 3 champion generators. All of them are broke down. Didn't get one season out of any of them. I have 2 predators for years and they still run. Thinking of upgrading to the predator 5000.
3…!! Wow what are you running 🥲? What models were they? Pretty crazy to have 3 die and not last a year. Considering the model the predator uses the same engine….sooo curious as to what models failed and why.
I was one of the first to purchase back in July. box is long gone. no email from HF, but i have seen/heard that whine before the soft start was added to my RV.
I have a soft start on both ac units. Lol it does that whine 50 percent of the time. ECO on or off doesn’t matter lol
Reference the predator 5000: I was told by HF customer service the serial numbers affected are 230615xxxxx thru 230628xxxxx. Harbor Freight will replace these units when new units become available . Estimated time is december or january . The serial number is located behind the starter embossed on the side of the engine.
@@mancavechronicles2139 is the number on the box somewhere?
I don't know . I don't have my box any longer.@@joey24698
Always keep your box!
I'm going to test it this weekend. Like you I have two 15,000 BTU AC units in my toy hauler. I don't have the wine. But the unit did stall with the second AC load.
Make sure eco is off
@@johnnysweekendsi went camping this weekend. Only issue I had was a hot restart. That took a few attempts one time. I did not use more than 2,800 Watts at one time. It was raining all day Saturday. No issues.
@philip600rr thanks for the feedback 👍🏼
I just swapped the old unit out. In the end The starter would intermittently hang up and it blew up my Keurig.
@philip600rr whoa… thanks for the feed back. I never went back to get one
Harbor Freight is getting a little too pricey for being a budget tool store. Got a PG2300IS for a couple hundred cheaper than the Predator 2000. 30 day on the PG2300IS vs. Predator on 90 day if you can show its defective. Both are Ducar gensets.
longcin makes pretty good motors
I told you so 😂
I will keep my firman for the time being and let others be the guinea pigs. Can’t wait for the new generator. That’s supposedly getting released around the end of the year but I won’t buy the first batch until the bugs get fixed.
An updated 5000 watt model? Or a whole new model?
Mine wood sut off after about 1 hour took back got a honda
Have you replaced the battery yet in the 5000? Can’t seem to find a replacement and it looks to be different sized than the 3500.
Purchased one the first week they came out (per the store). Mine often struggles hard when my air compressor kicks on (the only item I am using it for) and occasionally throws the breaker. It also just shuts down occasionally when at idle. Lately, I seem to be going through propane quicker, and can sometimes smell gas, but all connections are good. Really like the unit, just worried about these issues and it’s longevity. Didn’t buy the warranty.☹️
It doesn’t not like inductive loads that’s for sure. Much like my ac and your air compressor it sometimes will have no issues and other times yes
Reference the predator 5000: I was told by HF customer service the serial numbers affected are 230615xxxxx thru 230628xxxxx. Harbor Freight will replace these units when new units become available . Estimated time is december or january . The serial number is located behind the starter embossed on the side of the engine.
How do you check the fuel leveel? I'd hate to run out of gas.
I hope the newer Champion generators are better than the older ones. I bought a 7500-watt duel fuel several years ago and at 64 hours of run time, it started shutting down on low oil level in less than a tank of gas. By 80 hours it was shutting down at about 2 hours of run time. I will never own another champion product again.
Every manufacturer can have bad units for sure. Doesn’t matter the brand but normally over all the champions tend to do pretty good
When is Champion coming out with newer generators? I need a 5,000 + model that has remote electric start and uses propane.
@samuelonthewall idk but you can grab a pulsar or a GenMax model
So we purchased one for my RV and we are excited about it. What sort of tests should I do before we actually take it out?
I’ve ran my ac on full with all other appliances. The engine does rev a bit with multiple appliances
There is really no testing needed except to see if it runs correctly up to full load. The problem was starting ac units when temps were warmer. Or any type of inductive load really. Hair dryers and such no problem, small compressors or a ac unit would have issues constantly. The new version is due out anytime. They updated something supposedly
Hi… I was just about to grab this predator 5000 until HF pulled it off the shelf. I’m still very interested in this unit. However, have you had the chance to review the Wen DF452iX. It’s very similar to the predator 5000. Just curious about your thoughts. Thanks
I’m hoping to review the power smart version, should be an exact copy. Will see soon
Harbor freight will not be able to send emails to those people who have affected units if those people have never given Harbor Freight an email address.
What are the PO numbers that are affected? We bought ours about 3 weeks ago and it’s running good just want to check.
Call harbor freight
My upc starts with 1931 is that a good one? Bought a few weeks ago
I dont know what the new ones are. I would call with that number or just return it if it acts funny
what can you recommend, for an outside generator that work in the rain and snow. thanks
Either a home-back up unit or build get a gen shed /dog house made for it. They can be super simple to as nice as you want.
@johnnysweekends i own a trucking company, i'm looking for a small generator that's good in most weather conditions. Need to start it to the back of a semi truck.
@mrragnarokk7415 have you looked at adding one of these for the harsh weather. A little moisture is fine but being down poured on is not so good.
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The only NGK I can find is the one with resistor.
it's back on their website again, it says available Dec 20th
I noticed that 👍🏼
After talking with several stores I was able to gather some info to get you the latest scoop. Hopefully these are back soon. Let me know if your has issues if you own it! #Predator #generator #recalled #harborfreight
Alternative gens……..
Champion 4500 Dual Fuel: amzn.to/45fM21A
Wen DF 4500: amzn.to/3F35CmV
Pulsar 4000: amzn.to/46aqfcT
Direct Questions for fast response ...asqme.com/@johnnysweekends
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Reference the predator 5000: I was told by HF customer service the serial numbers affected are 230615xxxxx thru 230628xxxxx. Harbor Freight will replace these units when new units become available . Estimated time is december or january . The serial number is located behind the starter embossed on the side of the engine.
Not all units "AFFECTED"
My predator 5000 kept cutting off around 3000 watts. I took it in and replaced it, same thing. It’s supposed to handle 5000 start up, I’m starting at 0, then working my way up and it cuts off at 3000 when it says it’s supposed to hold 3900 watts continuously. I’m using mine for my mobile grooming trailer and I need to be able to run my a/c with the dryer. That’s when it reaches the 3000. I don’t know what to do at this point. Maybe get a higher wattage?
Yea sounds like you need two gens or a bigger single
The 5000 dual fuel will just quit and say overload when you restart it and will not start on propane, this thing is not working for me need a new one but can't get one till after Christmas some time
This first run is definitely having issues
Hi Jonny, I purchased the predator 5000 from Harbour freight in Detroit last week. When it’s running, mostly at idle sometimes it will stumble a little bit. Not like it’s going to stall just a change in sound. Doesn’t seem to do it as much under load. Is this a normal occurrence and will it stop after the break-in period? I changed the oil today after eight hours of runtime and there was metal flakes in it.
The metal looking flakes could just be assembly grease which has a silver tint. After a couple oil changes that will be gone. The stumble is probably because they come lean from the factory so when no load its just free spinning really and not drawing in much fuel.
I just watched a bunch of your videos they are very informative I thank you for posting them. Should I return this unit and exchange it for a different one because of the rough popping idle and the slight whine when I put a load on or am I overthinking this? It would be a hassle to exchange because I am in Canada. Otherwise it seems to work fine I’ve had it at max load and it hasn’t overloaded.
I just tried running the generator on propane and it doesn’t do the stumbling on idle like it does with gas. What could it be?
@garycossar3577 I would call first because I don’t know how long the return window is. I’m sure it’s still good and probably will be for months.
If it’s having issues and say dies in 8 months well then maybe you will wish you had returned it.
So up to you.
If it isn’t running right out of the box, then it’s not right.
If it was a lawn mower or a dirt bike or something else that wasn’t running right would you return it?
@garycossar3577 carb issues probably maybe internal or stepper motors…clean small speed jet…
They replaced mine with a po# that wasn’t affected and it still acts up
That’s not good. Yea I think there is more than what they are thinking. The whole Line is gonna be pulled
@@johnnysweekends yea I hope they do something. I was gonna just return mine for a refund but they wanted to charge me 200 restocking fee
@jonathanramirez2896 did you have a warranty?
@@johnnysweekends I’m still within my 90 day return policy but no i didn’t buy the extended warranty
@@jonathanramirez2896wow...see...that's the biggest problem with Harbor Freight, that dishonest and extremely variable Customer Service response we get that differs from store to store seemingly at the whim of the local manager, or maybe regional manager...we're at the mercy of whatever lie they want to invent to avoid covering defective garbage while they're raking in our money. 🤬
Bought one turned it back in what a failure.
It had such promise to
what about the pred 9500
That’s been doing good from most the reviews I have seen and in the groups
Have you tested this generator Johnny WEN DF452iX?
I have looked at it and may get it but pretty sure it’s a champion 4500 dual fuel. Electronics could be slightly different but everything else looks the same
Okay, Thank you!@@johnnysweekends
My son is happy with his Champion 4500 which he uses as backup power for his bar & grill which runs mainly on propane. 🤠👍🇺🇸
Johnny has there been any updates on the Predator 5000? Are the latest current models fixed?
The new ones are out. Most are having no problems, but unfortunately there are a few that still do. So left overs ..????
One thing with HF is a good return policy. Especially with the warranty .
@@johnnysweekends Okay thank you. I'm preparing to purchase. They have a sale coming next week.
what is the PO that is bad?
They didn’t give me that..🤷🏼♂️
...they also yanked the 5000 off the website.
Yup, more then what they are saying
@@johnnysweekends I've not received an email. mine was purchased 7/21.
@_emanon you won’t unless it’s a real recall. If having problems return it
@@johnnysweekends I got an email about quality control. It's dated August 31st. I'm going to fill it out after the weekend. They want to know if you use propane or gas. How many hours I've been running it. And any additional feedback.
@@johnnysweekendsaccording to the manager i spoke with the other day the recall is due to handles breaking.
Just opened up my Predator 5000 will not run longer then 10 min
Take it back now…there are still duds out there !!
Glad I didn’t end up buying 5000. Their replacement warranty is nice, but it is good for nothing if you need to use generator for backup and it doesn’t work… Then of course local HF stores don’t have them in stock.
Mine broke in one day..
It could have been so good. Hopefully the revised model is fixed
This thing is a piece of crap. I bought one and it worked fine for a day (24 hours). Now it’s just crap (35 hours). Problem is I’m on a week long hunting trip in FL and it’s 0209 am messing with this generator. This is ridiculous
Yea unfortunately its having issues
Honda
Ask the Honda boys how the eu7000 is doing with the fuel pump and more going out at 500 hours and less
Honda may have good quality parts, but they don't make a single generator that uses propane. Terrible!
Junk