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Have a look for the Generator that Costco sales for $999 the (A-iPower GXS7100iRD 7100W Dual Fuel Inverter Generator) I have it and it is about the same size and weight of this predator.
All depends Do you need 240v ? The warranty and return for the predator will be pretty easy if something happened. The 7250 is a nice unit and I would grab that over the the 6000 but it’s a lot more money and does weight more but not by much. So far the 7250 is getting good reviews overall. But again it’s a lot more money. But if you want 240v then it’s not a question
Just purchased 8/26. 3500 6mo. Old 2567hrs starter drags, hour meter stop @1990. Break in oil changes every 25hrs to 100hr. New DF im doing the same. @13amp plus on a 20lb LP tank ran for 10.5hrs. 30lb tank 21hrs happy so far
I’m checking out this review because I’m sitting at my bar having a beer and someone just drove in with a new one in the box strapped to the back of his car. 😂. I have the 3500 , great generator. Served me well during all the power outages here in CA the past few years.
I have this same generator it’s been running for 6 months. I had the 3500 x2 first this 5000 is the way to go. I use amsoil and change monthly but highly recommended
@@jasonmarkesteyn3665 How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
I am also a product reviewer - albeit written, not video - for a national chain, and as such must compliment this guy for an OUTSTANDING review. I already have one of these (which I like), but if I didn't, this would make me very inclined to get one.
It’s to make sure the generator is running optimally with the right fuel mixture. M when you go up in altitude there is less air air. So less air, less fuel.
I would love to see you do a high hour test on some generators. We have about 1200 hours on our Predator 3500 that we bought last September. Ran it 6 weeks at 24x7 at a place impacted by the hurricane. Thing is still running like a champ
I would as well…😂 but with all the units I have I run each a few hours here and there as i rotate around. Plus the fuel expenses would be nasty….would have to start a go fund me 😂. I may just lend them out more so people can put hours on them and see what they do.
I got a Ryobi 2300 watt generator that has about 7000 something hours on it still fires right off I think a big part of it comes down to oil changing and the kind of oil did you run in it I run a oil that is for air cooled engines and has heavy zinc content in it generally change my oil every hundred to two hundred hours
At 110 lbs it's just a few pounds heavier than two predator 2000 suit case generators, plus an additional 1000 watts on top of that. Sweet 5000 watt generator
Thank you for taking the time to do such a great review!! My wife and I were looking to purchase this generator/inverter for our rv and this was so informative!! Thanks again!
Dual fuel, remote start, wheels and handle!.... I am impressed! You should show us how to convert it to natural gas and what parts you need for that conversion :) :) :)
Agreed. I live in Montana and my generator seems to work fine right now at this elevation I live at (3300ft) but there are alotnof places around me I wanna go camp that are up to 6500ft of elevation. So I’m gonna order the jets for my unit just in case I run into any issues
I live at 3200' but travel to the ocean and to the mountains alot and use my generator every trip. I can change jets no problem but fuel injection would be perfect for the people that don't possess the mechanical knowledge or just don't want to worry about it. There are a few gens out there with fuel injection or an "altitude adjustment lever" but it's not wide spread across small engines. We got away from carburetored engines in 1987 "GM", why are small engines so far behind?
Great information! During the hurricane season these are so important to have. We were without power over a week in Houston. I can't even imagine what those hit by the recent hurricane are going through right now.
I just picked this Generator up tonight. It's a backup for my Glitchy Onan 5500 that came with our 5th wheel. This is a great video that I wish I would have seen this before. Yes , this unit looks easy to use and work on
This is an excellent new release! I really like the 3500 Predator, but have consistently been looking for dual fuel options like Champion. I'm planning on warranty return a malfunctioning 3500 with about 500hrs and upgrade to this one. The features are top notch additions!!
I wonder if this unit is as quiet as the 3500 If it is I'm buying it. I have a 3500 right now I love it but this new model is super nice and has more power
I think it’s a pinch quieter honestly because it doesn’t rev as high at the same load. If both are at 1500 watts the 3500 will be running a lot more rpm. This does just kinda purrr lol. I’ll have to see if I can get another 3500 predator
I think I just found my new bow fishing generator. It would be nice to have that remote start. Not having to run to the back of the boat to start it everytime would be pretty awesome!
Thanks for the video! I'm new to generators and your video was helpful! Picked one up this past weekend for $799. Added oil and works great on propane. 🖖
Yours is the second review I Have watched on this unit. Both units have made the noise of a failing Bedix in the starter. That wail would drive me crazy! Nice review. Thanks
I would say not really a failing bending but more of where the motor is in relation to the compression stroke or exhaust stroke. If it fires real quick the bendix will free spin once engine is started because its a set time for activation. I have started this several times and it does this about 2 out of 10 starts I would say. And thank you. 😀👍🏼
The lead acid battery is actually a plus. You don't have to worry about it running too hot or cold. - which can seriously damage lithium when charged/used. Lead acid isn't obsolete yet. ;)
We have a Champion 3600 and 4600 watt Dual Fuel inverter/generators and love them. We always take the 3600 watt one because it's lighter and a lot quieter for some reason. We get about 10-11'ish hours on a 20lb propane bottle at half power.
I like the specs. The sound is not too bad but well above my Westinghouse @52 dB, however, I keep it under the house and it rarely is heard at all. I like that it is much easier to service. If I was buying a new generator, I would definitely consider this one. Dual fuel is really nice. I have a 100 lb propane tank which would be very convenient.
It’s definitely a nice unit. Wish it was a pinch smaller and lighter but again seems to be built tough. Although I have tested the Westinghouse as well, in a db test video and it was one of the louder units in the same tests with other gens. You can’t go off of the stated of what’s on the box. It’s still a quiet unit and they are all pretty close. But where you have it is great as long as properly vented and exhaust is pumped out..👍🏼
I have the 3500 Predator generator for my RV needs I've had it now for about 2 years and I'm really happy with it but I want this new 5001 so wishlist LOL
Just bought the same exact one been looking for a long time this one fits all my needs and I love that. It’s the dual fuel and it has electric start right video and this is definitely an awesome generator.
Glad to see this. I'm in the market, and I was looking at the WEN DF451i Super Quiet 4500-Watt Electric Start Dual Fuel, which is just about $750 on the jungle site. This compares very favorably. Perhaps if HF puts it on sale, which I'm sure won't be long, this would be hard to pass up.
Nice review Johnny. Thank you! It looks like a nice generator but I can't figure out why Harbor Freight only has 90 day warranties on their generators. That has to be the shortest warranty of any generator.
no real warranty cause they are made in communist china from cheap communist china export junk. no they just want you to buy another unit when the first, second, third, forth, etc fail. buy then you have paid more than a very reliable honda unit. that you can buy things like filters and spark plugs for. honda's must be chained and bolted down, as like assault weapons, they can walk away on there own. and the honda units are much quieter than any of the "other" brands. these communist chinese made harbor freight units must be in a enclosed box to get down to the dbi required in ALL national parks. honda's can be in the open. but it is good they are including a rv plug on them.
I never buy their warranties because their generators seem to out perform the competition. If they fail after a few years of my fairly heavy use, I can replace it (with updated version) and still be under the Honda price gouge. My 3500 is a superstar
Your videos are super helpful, I'm looking for a generator and thought I'd get a 2000 one, but your sound measurements for 1500 watts on the smaller units vs. this. The Predator 5000 will be 10+ db quieter, which is a lot. Now I have to watch 20 more of your videos so I can figure out which brand to get.
At 04:47 when you were talking about the charcoal canister what did you mean when you said when you said especially when you over fill the Generator just curious
@@SlowJamminJames i use it while camping about once a month and have never changed the jets or anything, ran on gas only and i’d say it does good, not great. it still overloads occasionally, which I think is due to the AC kick-on with no soft start. the last camping trip I was running it for 8 hours at a time with the AC in dry mode (compressor cycles on for 10 mins off for 5) 3 days in a row and only got the overload error once. all in all i’d say it’s a solid step up from the 3500, the remote start is awesome, it’s quiet, reliable, fuel efficient, just wish I would have gotten the most recent version and not the original but otherwise wouldn’t hesitate to run a new one when this one dies (if it ever does)
@@SlowJamminJames another issue for me with the overload error is i don’t always have fresh gas in it, and i don’t change the jets at elevation like you’re supposed to so im running it in stock configuration at 6-9k elevation which probably isn’t helping. could probably mitigate some issues by switching to propane or swapping jets. lastly, i noticed it runs a lot better if you have it in the shade. but we also get crazy temps here. we had some crazy run this summer of hot days, hell it was 98 degrees here today in late october.
I lost power yesterday and decided on the 3500 today. I went to HF and the GM of the store was working the floor and gave me a presentation on the 5000 and told me not to buy the 3500 as its just $100 more.. I was absolutely sold.. His next words were we are sold out... I found one at another HF 10 miles away.. Great buy. Lets see how the longevity is..
Minus the dual fuel, they pretty much added the same mods as I did on my 3500 mod video. Just bought this today. My little 3500 was just at the brink of hitting all my power needs. I think this one will give me a little more breathing room. Plus the Pure Sine Wave is huge
Not always a option though for many. I have one station now and its $9 a gallon 🙄. So not worth it when Lucas has served me well for over 15 years. Also just dont let things sit for ever and you’ll be fine. Wish ethanol free was easier and cheaper to get, but it just gets worse as time goes on…😐
@@johnnysweekends yep. I read a few more comments after I posted mine and saw that for some people, ethanol free is no where near them. In the PNW, a few stations actually have it at every pump, which is overkill. It’s been running about 80 cents more then 87 octane unleaded
Nice upgrade and price for what it is, I was holding out for this for our camper. I wish they would of added a L14-30R 120/240 outlet so I could use it for the house or camper
Thank you for making this video you really helped me make my mind up about buying this generator I need this generator for my food truck it's going to be perfect for me thanks for this great video✌🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Glad I could help, butttttttt 2 things. Does your food truck need 220/240v? Also buy the warranty it is worth it and it’s a write off anyway since you have a business. And a few of these are having issues. Mine is back and forth but many of them are doing just fine. I would say 5 out of 100 are doing a over rev which it shouldn’t be doing but again many others are fine. I plan to do more testing but I also bought the warranty and may swap it out.
Seems like a nice little quiet genny. Only issue, or downfall, is the lack of a 30A 120V/240V selector outlet. For an extra $50, they could install a 240V/30A outlet to plug into a house, to run both sides of the household electric panel. I have a small 3500 watt Duromax (12 years old) that has that capability. Extremely noisy, but quite capable. Would love to see HF add that to this unit. If they did, this unit would be a home run. The Predator 9500 has that option, but it's so massive and heavy.
@pinkiepie1656 open frame type gens at that level can have 240 but not much else. Unless over seas type. Enclosed inverters are going to be larger. About 5500 or so.
@chrism8013 yea open frame unit. Also not inverter correct? Not that a inverter is needed all the time but depending where you are it’s nice to have the quiet ones
@@johnnysweekends Correct, open frame. I'm in a canal neighborhood. Only time we lose power is during a coastal storm, and the municipality shuts the grid down to protect the energized electric panels in the basements from getting flooded. Neither myself nor my neighbors care about noise of generators, as we care more about each others houses. Pumps & more pumps working are a must. I do have multiple lithium battery banks to power the house at night, but yes a small quieter inverter with a 30A/240V option would be nice. Or even the ability to run two small decently priced inverters in parallel with 30A/240V would be a good option.
awesome review! Harbor freight definitely paid attention to their customers with the release of this. Might pick one up before they decide to charge the accessories separately.
@@johnnysweekends yeah absolutely. I remember when the 3500 was about 700ish. Now 899.. so the same could happen if these start flying off the shelves.
Thank you for the excellent breakdown. I learned a lot from you. I'm brand new to generators, and don't spend a lot of time maintaining engines. Can you give me an idea how much maintenance this model needs? Am I going to have to get under the hood and adjust stuff and swap parts all winter long? Can I keep this outside all winter out in the open, or does it need some weather protection around it? Last winter we had an ice/wind storm, drove us and others out of our homes for several days, million$ in fallen trees and other damages around the county. Is a machine like this up to that sort of thing?
Love your videos. Just picked one up as it checks all the boxes. Is it possible to use the 30A plug with an interlock and generator inlet box to feed a home panel? It has a floating neutral whereas the home panel is bonded.
I have gone through 3 Westinghouse igen 4500 dfc and 1 I6500 Genmax in the last 2 years. The Genmax sucked as well as their customer service so bad that I threw it away. The Wesinghouse's have had different problems as in cant get parts for them because customer service is too stupid to understand what I am telling them. The only reason I bought those others was because I needed remote and HF didn't have a remote unit. Finally they have!! I love their warranty and replacement policy and the fact that I can actually look someone in the eye when I have a problem. I'm going to buy one this week. Thanks for the review. Subed and liked!
Thanks for the review of this. It looks great. I need a unit to replace my old Onan on board generator as it's too costly to repair and this looks pretty good. It is heavy but I suspect bigger ones are heavier and so long as it can run the fridge and one AC unit, I'm good with that.
There are a few other units you could look into that are a little lighter and will do the same. Like the champion 4500/4650 Or the wen 4000. A lot of options. But this thing is built more like the old Honda eu3000is just big and heavy duty. Very curious how this will hold up. It is quiet for sure
Has Predator done anything about the malfunctioning CO monitor system? I would love to give this one a shot, but need to know if they've fixed that system in this new generator, otherwise I'll be voiding the warranty like so many others have had to do by deleting that system. For those that may be curious, go look up that problem and you'll see how many are out there ... bought two 3500's on the same day because of it. Then learned it was a massive problem.
Another great video. I'd like to see a comparison between this one and the Champion 5500 dual fuel. I've had some reliability issues with the Predators and spending the extra $ for extended warranties can become an issue after using the warranty the first time. The Champion comes standard with a 3yr warranty and is priced at $1099.00 at Cabela's. I agree that Predator put some thought into the layout and maintenance for this one. Time will tell and I hope they've improved the display monitor. Happy camping and testing and thanks for another great & informative video Johnny.
@redSnowplow7985 the original predator was great but they made a change about half way through a couple years in changing the manufacturer. This is when they were no longer as tough as the first runs or original models. I think they went though 3 changes in total. Will be interesting to see how long this lasts
@@johnnysweekends agreed. I carry a pair of Honda 2200’s for my 30a Grand Design though I can get by with one since installing the MicroAir east start.
We picked one up a few days ago when a storm knocked out the power. It kept the AC on in our 30amp travel trailer without any issues and only used about 5 gallons of gas. Power was out for about 16 hours. My main complaints would be they could have included a small bottle of oil and the stickers on the top curled up and came off the first day of it running out in the sun. There was also an e clip missing on one of the side door knobs and I have requested a replacement. Yes I know I can just go pick one up but it's a good test of their customer service I think. I think it'll be a good generator.
Got a response from HF customer service. They said they don't carry the part but I could return it under warranty which is just ridiculous. They sell the clips in the stores.
@@SlowJamminJames it's been great. We have only needed to use it a couple times. I did have an issue because I may not have drained the carburetor completely after use or it could have just been bad gas which made it hard to start but that's all really. I have switched to using propane for when I start it periodically to make sure it's working. Also started using Lucas stabilizer in the fuel. I would definitely buy another one.
Just bought one two days ago. Edison is doing maintenance and will have no power for 12 plus hours on a few separate days. Right now I have a refrigerator, portable A/C unit, wifi, and a 75" TV. 3 hours in and everything good !
I want to run a 3500 w heater on this for my carpet cleaning extractor. Would that be too much for this unit to handle? Or will it stress the generator out too much?
Great review. They definitely upgraded the older 3500. Did they fix the surging issues? I returned my 3500's (2) due to them running rough without a major load on them. They still worked great just didn't want to find out if they would last. Ended up with (3) 2000's instead and like the redundancy. Fuel/oil changes can be done one at a time without interrupting power. Plus they use less fuel and I can use 1, 2, or 3 at a time depending on load/fuel conservation needs.
Surging issues who knows until they have been out for a while. But yea your setup seems fine if it’s working and you can parallel all 3 at once if you need to..👍🏼
I had one unit start surging at 15hrs of use, idk how to fix it so I gave it back and got new one that wasn’t starting and when it did it shut off in 15 secs. 0hr use, so now I’m back on 3500, idk what the deal is, wish it was a good unit I had because all the features is really nice and worth the price
Outstanding review Johnny.... I was going to buy the Westinghouse 4500 DF..... but now after seeing this video, I'm not so sure now.... I just may buy this one....
Nice 👍🏼 thankyou. I got it 🤣so i can run my portable amplifier though it . Guitar 🎸 electric drum kit 🥁 portable keyboard 🎹 PA system ect. Musician 🎵😂❤.
I wish the 3500 wasn’t so expensive now days. I’m thankful I managed to grab the champion 2500w dual fuel generator for 385$ shipped on prime day!! Generators now days have went crazy on prices lately.
@@johnnysweekends right?! I had originally bought the genmax 3300i for 499 with a coupon then the next day I saw the prime deal on the champion 2500 dual fuel and immediately bought it. It was a hassle to return the genmax cause Amazon said they usually don’t allow returns of generators but since I didn’t open it and I begged them they allowed me to return it😂😂🙏🙏 Fair warning Amazon could deny your return if anyone ever tried to return a generator. I had no clue there were exceptions to their amazing return policy until 3 days ago 😂😂😂😂
@@johnnysweekends you don’t mind me asking (this is my first ever generator) but I was curious if I had to move the fuel cap vent on or off if I’m only using LP?? I know you move it when you use gasoline but I’m only using a 20lb propane tank and I read the manual and it never mentioned moving that on off switch on the fuel cap when using Lp lol. Figured I’d ask as I’m on your 2 of the 5 hour break in. Also I followed your load break in first and then changed the oil! Just running low loads for 5 hours now until another oil change haha
Yea it’s odd because they just started that I guess but I think because they have no way to tell if fuel and oil has been added so then it’s a hazardous material thing
I agree. The Champion 4650 is the closest competitor to the Predator 5000. I don't consider the extra starting watts on the Predator 5000 or even the Champion 5500 to really matter, since 4650 watts (30A @ 120VAC) is the absolute maximum that the 30A line can handle. I suppose you could have the 30A socket tied into your RV or home's transfer box, plus a couple items plugged into the 5-15 outlets...but I am not sure many people run their generators like that.
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Have a look for the Generator that Costco sales for $999 the (A-iPower GXS7100iRD 7100W Dual Fuel Inverter Generator) I have it and it is about the same size and weight of this predator.
I like that unit but its no longer at the costcos here….actually dont think it ever was.
@@johnnysweekendsso would you recommend this Predator 5000 or the Genmax 6000IED/7250IEDC?
All depends
Do you need 240v ?
The warranty and return for the predator will be pretty easy if something happened.
The 7250 is a nice unit and I would grab that over the the 6000 but it’s a lot more money and does weight more but not by much.
So far the 7250 is getting good reviews overall.
But again it’s a lot more money. But if you want 240v then it’s not a question
@@johnnysweekendsdid you put link up for cleaning the jet?
Just purchased 8/26. 3500 6mo. Old 2567hrs starter drags, hour meter stop @1990. Break in oil changes every 25hrs to 100hr. New DF im doing the same. @13amp plus on a 20lb LP tank ran for 10.5hrs. 30lb tank 21hrs happy so far
Nice thanks for the info and keep us up to date.
I’m checking out this review because I’m sitting at my bar having a beer and someone just drove in with a new one in the box strapped to the back of his car. 😂. I have the 3500 , great generator. Served me well during all the power outages here in CA the past few years.
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I have this same generator it’s been running for 6 months. I had the 3500 x2 first this 5000 is the way to go. I use amsoil and change monthly but highly recommended
@@jasonmarkesteyn3665 How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
I am also a product reviewer - albeit written, not video - for a national chain, and as such must compliment this guy for an OUTSTANDING review. I already have one of these (which I like), but if I didn't, this would make me very inclined to get one.
Wow thank you so much. Appreciate the positive feedback 😀👍🏼👊🏼
This is a SOLID release! I'm not sure what I love the most, but the easily replaced and included jets....I'm impressed.
Yea that’s definitely a bonus they included them. Very surprised by that.
I don't get what the jets are for.
It’s to make sure the generator is running optimally with the right fuel mixture. M when you go up in altitude there is less air air. So less air, less fuel.
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
They knocked this out of the park. Absolutely crushed it.
Hands down one of the top 3 video producers on UA-cam! WELL DONE!
Wow!!! Thank you! 😀👍🏼👊🏼🙏🏼
I would love to see you do a high hour test on some generators. We have about 1200 hours on our Predator 3500 that we bought last September. Ran it 6 weeks at 24x7 at a place impacted by the hurricane. Thing is still running like a champ
I would as well…😂 but with all the units I have I run each a few hours here and there as i rotate around. Plus the fuel expenses would be nasty….would have to start a go fund me 😂.
I may just lend them out more so people can put hours on them and see what they do.
I have 5100 hours on my predator, I had to replace the battery and one outlet went bad,other than that is fine
I got a Ryobi 2300 watt generator that has about 7000 something hours on it still fires right off I think a big part of it comes down to oil changing and the kind of oil did you run in it I run a oil that is for air cooled engines and has heavy zinc content in it generally change my oil every hundred to two hundred hours
Wow that would be a record for that little guy. What are you powering? Constant load?
@@johnnysweekends Max 625 watts, window ac ,small regrigerator
Excellent review! Love the carb drain option! Just bought the 5000 today. I think this will be exactly what I needed.
Back to the comments one year later, and now a Predator 5000 owner. Thanks Brother
At 110 lbs it's just a few pounds heavier than two predator 2000 suit case generators, plus an additional 1000 watts on top of that. Sweet 5000 watt generator
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Thank you for taking the time to do such a great review!! My wife and I were looking to purchase this generator/inverter for our rv and this was so informative!! Thanks again!
You’re welcome, I do recommend a warranty as well it just makes it easy
Dual fuel, remote start, wheels and handle!.... I am impressed! You should show us how to convert it to natural gas and what parts you need for that conversion :) :) :)
I have the stuff….😀👍🏼
Fuel injection would be great, I'm tired of changing jets everytime I travel.
There is stuff coming…🤫
Agreed. I live in Montana and my generator seems to work fine right now at this elevation I live at (3300ft) but there are alotnof places around me I wanna go camp that are up to 6500ft of elevation. So I’m gonna order the jets for my unit just in case I run into any issues
I live at 3200' but travel to the ocean and to the mountains alot and use my generator every trip. I can change jets no problem but fuel injection would be perfect for the people that don't possess the mechanical knowledge or just don't want to worry about it. There are a few gens out there with fuel injection or an "altitude adjustment lever" but it's not wide spread across small engines. We got away from carburetored engines in 1987 "GM", why are small engines so far behind?
There are more in the works. Hoping to see them soon.
There are a couple other models out there just not well known though
Any diesel inverter generators yet?
Great information! During the hurricane season these are so important to have. We were without power over a week in Houston. I can't even imagine what those hit by the recent hurricane are going through right now.
Really great review. Good value for the money especially with the thoughtful upgrades.
Thank you!! And yes not a bad job at all and will fit most people’s needs. Now let’s hope they last..👍🏼
After window shopping for a couple weeks i pulled the trigger. Thanks for the review.✌🏻
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
Great review. These will be $800 on HF's Black Friday sale this year.
Thank you for the great review man. You make it so much easier to decide on whether it is worth purchasing.👍
I just picked this Generator up tonight. It's a backup for my Glitchy Onan 5500 that came with our 5th wheel. This is a great video that I wish I would have seen this before.
Yes , this unit looks easy to use and work on
This is an excellent new release! I really like the 3500 Predator, but have consistently been looking for dual fuel options like Champion. I'm planning on warranty return a malfunctioning 3500 with about 500hrs and upgrade to this one. The features are top notch additions!!
I wonder if this unit is as quiet as the 3500
If it is I'm buying it.
I have a 3500 right now I love it but this new model is super nice and has more power
I think it’s a pinch quieter honestly because it doesn’t rev as high at the same load. If both are at 1500 watts the 3500 will be running a lot more rpm.
This does just kinda purrr lol.
I’ll have to see if I can get another 3500 predator
I have the champion dual fuel and love it!
@@dirtydigger3218 Which Champion model do you have?
I think I just found my new bow fishing generator. It would be nice to have that remote start. Not having to run to the back of the boat to start it everytime would be pretty awesome!
Thanks for the video! I'm new to generators and your video was helpful! Picked one up this past weekend for $799. Added oil and works great on propane. 🖖
Awesome deal!!! 👍🏼
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
@SlowJamminJames I've only turned on for maintenance purposes. Hopefully will use it in the future.
This is a nice upgrade for the Predator line. Will def pick one up to run my 26ft trailer when I can't get a 30amp hookup.
Yours is the second review I Have watched on this unit. Both units have made the noise of a failing Bedix in the starter. That wail would drive me crazy! Nice review. Thanks
I would say not really a failing bending but more of where the motor is in relation to the compression stroke or exhaust stroke. If it fires real quick the bendix will free spin once engine is started because its a set time for activation. I have started this several times and it does this about 2 out of 10 starts I would say.
And thank you. 😀👍🏼
Fantastic overview! You just sold me one. I typically buy much smaller things from HF but your review makes the choice much easier. Thank you.
The lead acid battery is actually a plus. You don't have to worry about it running too hot or cold. - which can seriously damage lithium when charged/used.
Lead acid isn't obsolete yet. ;)
We have a Champion 3600 and 4600 watt Dual Fuel inverter/generators and love them. We always take the 3600 watt one because it's lighter and a lot quieter for some reason. We get about 10-11'ish hours on a 20lb propane bottle at half power.
Champions are good units
Well thought out generator.
I agree not bad. There are others that are good but this one does rank up there for sure.
I like the specs.
The sound is not too bad but well above my Westinghouse @52 dB, however,
I keep it under the house and it rarely is heard at all.
I like that it is much easier to service.
If I was buying a new generator, I would definitely consider this one.
Dual fuel is really nice. I have a 100 lb propane tank which would be very convenient.
It’s definitely a nice unit. Wish it was a pinch smaller and lighter but again seems to be built tough.
Although I have tested the Westinghouse as well, in a db test video and it was one of the louder units in the same tests with other gens. You can’t go off of the stated of what’s on the box. It’s still a quiet unit and they are all pretty close. But where you have it is great as long as properly vented and exhaust is pumped out..👍🏼
The little details are amazing
I have the 3500 Predator generator for my RV needs I've had it now for about 2 years and I'm really happy with it but I want this new 5001 so wishlist LOL
Not sure why they didn't up the wattage slightly and make it 240v capable? I need one of these around 7000w with 240v.
I did a review and still have this. Haven’t heard tons of bad and so far still doing good…amzn.to/46TEKCN
First time I've seen one of your videos. Really good...a lot of uesful information and reference links...thanks!
Thank you so much! Glad it helped and hope to see you around more 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Just bought the same exact one been looking for a long time this one fits all my needs and I love that. It’s the dual fuel and it has electric start right video and this is definitely an awesome generator.
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
Glad to see this. I'm in the market, and I was looking at the WEN DF451i Super Quiet 4500-Watt Electric Start Dual Fuel, which is just about $750 on the jungle site. This compares very favorably. Perhaps if HF puts it on sale, which I'm sure won't be long, this would be hard to pass up.
predado is better i use the 3500 for 1000's of hrs
For the cost
You can’t beat it
Great informative video ✌️
I think this vid clinched my decision, Thanks!
Having the propane option is a game changer along with the 18 hour run time on one tank of gas.
This works great I’m in the food truck business it power everything on the food truck
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
Nice review Johnny. Thank you! It looks like a nice generator but I can't figure out why Harbor Freight only has 90 day warranties on their generators. That has to be the shortest warranty of any generator.
Yea I always wondered that. Only thing I can think of is they want you to buy the warranty which means you almost have to..😕
no real warranty cause they are made in communist china from cheap communist china export junk.
no they just want you to buy another unit when the first, second, third, forth, etc fail.
buy then you have paid more than a very reliable honda unit. that you can buy things like filters and spark plugs for.
honda's must be chained and bolted down, as like assault weapons, they can walk away on there own.
and the honda units are much quieter than any of the "other" brands.
these communist chinese made harbor freight units must be in a enclosed box to get down to the dbi required in ALL national parks. honda's can be in the open.
but it is good they are including a rv plug on them.
I never buy their warranties because their generators seem to out perform the competition. If they fail after a few years of my fairly heavy use, I can replace it (with updated version) and still be under the Honda price gouge. My 3500 is a superstar
Your videos are super helpful, I'm looking for a generator and thought I'd get a 2000 one, but your sound measurements for 1500 watts on the smaller units vs. this. The Predator 5000 will be 10+ db quieter, which is a lot.
Now I have to watch 20 more of your videos so I can figure out which brand to get.
No matter what you get a warranty is always a good idea.
And stay away from the small generac 2200 and Westinghouse 4500 👍🏼
At 04:47 when you were talking about the charcoal canister what did you mean when you said when you said especially when you over fill the Generator just curious
just picked one up this week! sold my faithful 3500 which was sad but this one was too good to pass up
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
@@SlowJamminJames i use it while camping about once a month and have never changed the jets or anything, ran on gas only and i’d say it does good, not great. it still overloads occasionally, which I think is due to the AC kick-on with no soft start. the last camping trip I was running it for 8 hours at a time with the AC in dry mode (compressor cycles on for 10 mins off for 5) 3 days in a row and only got the overload error once. all in all i’d say it’s a solid step up from the 3500, the remote start is awesome, it’s quiet, reliable, fuel efficient, just wish I would have gotten the most recent version and not the original but otherwise wouldn’t hesitate to run a new one when this one dies (if it ever does)
@@SlowJamminJames another issue for me with the overload error is i don’t always have fresh gas in it, and i don’t change the jets at elevation like you’re supposed to so im running it in stock configuration at 6-9k elevation which probably isn’t helping. could probably mitigate some issues by switching to propane or swapping jets. lastly, i noticed it runs a lot better if you have it in the shade. but we also get crazy temps here. we had some crazy run this summer of hot days, hell it was 98 degrees here today in late october.
@@its-andrew-y thank you
Cool new generator an a very nicely done review...better than many!
Thank you 😀👍🏼
I lost power yesterday and decided on the 3500 today. I went to HF and the GM of the store was working the floor and gave me a presentation on the 5000 and told me not to buy the 3500 as its just $100 more.. I was absolutely sold.. His next words were we are sold out... I found one at another HF 10 miles away.. Great buy. Lets see how the longevity is..
I bet the prices go up soon. $1199 I bet
$1099 as of 1/10/2024.
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
@@SlowJamminJames haven't had to use it since.. Murphys Law...
@@johnv9854 thank you
Minus the dual fuel, they pretty much added the same mods as I did on my 3500 mod video. Just bought this today. My little 3500 was just at the brink of hitting all my power needs. I think this one will give me a little more breathing room. Plus the Pure Sine Wave is huge
I need to get 2 of these for my food truck
Fantastic video. Thank you!
Thanks for the video! Solid info
I was thinking of buying the Ecoflow but not anymore. This one is so much simpler, especially the direct connection for LP
The dual fuel ECOFLOW? That’s more specific if you have ECOFLOW products and want to utilize this as part of the ecosystem
5:20 A good practice is to only use Ethanol free fuel in power equipment. It reduces the likelihood of fuel related problems.
Not always a option though for many. I have one station now and its $9 a gallon 🙄. So not worth it when Lucas has served me well for over 15 years. Also just dont let things sit for ever and you’ll be fine. Wish ethanol free was easier and cheaper to get, but it just gets worse as time goes on…😐
@@johnnysweekends yep. I read a few more comments after I posted mine and saw that for some people, ethanol free is no where near them.
In the PNW, a few stations actually have it at every pump, which is overkill. It’s been running about 80 cents more then 87 octane unleaded
Ahh that would be nice!!! But CA and it’s ways… lol. Why am I here again 😂
Nice upgrade and price for what it is, I was holding out for this for our camper. I wish they would of added a L14-30R 120/240 outlet so I could use it for the house or camper
Yea would have been nice but there are several other options now
@@johnnysweekends what other options have the 240 outlet?
@Rimfirelvr you would have to step to like a genmax or pulsar 6000 or 7250 but the 7250 is a much better unit. See here amzn.to/3Sr8L7X
Thank you for making this video you really helped me make my mind up about buying this generator I need this generator for my food truck it's going to be perfect for me thanks for this great video✌🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Glad I could help, butttttttt 2 things.
Does your food truck need 220/240v?
Also buy the warranty it is worth it and it’s a write off anyway since you have a business.
And a few of these are having issues. Mine is back and forth but many of them are doing just fine.
I would say 5 out of 100 are doing a over rev which it shouldn’t be doing but again many others are fine.
I plan to do more testing but I also bought the warranty and may swap it out.
they nailed it with this one👍👍👍👍
When they release a diesel I'll get excited.
Don’t think they will in a small portable. It will be to expensive and to heavy.
Use Lucas Oil extender! It is amazing!
I am all in for this. I hope that I can use a 2 wire start from my solar system inverter.
Looking at getting one of these for my school bus conversion.
Seems like a nice little quiet genny. Only issue, or downfall, is the lack of a 30A 120V/240V selector outlet. For an extra $50, they could install a 240V/30A outlet to plug into a house, to run both sides of the household electric panel. I have a small 3500 watt Duromax (12 years old) that has that capability. Extremely noisy, but quite capable. Would love to see HF add that to this unit. If they did, this unit would be a home run. The Predator 9500 has that option, but it's so massive and heavy.
What 3500 watt generator has 240 volt?
@pinkiepie1656 open frame type gens at that level can have 240 but not much else. Unless over seas type. Enclosed inverters are going to be larger. About 5500 or so.
@@pinkiepie1656 I have a Duromax 3500 that I bought 11 years ago when Sandy hit. Has a 30A 240V outlet.
@chrism8013 yea open frame unit. Also not inverter correct? Not that a inverter is needed all the time but depending where you are it’s nice to have the quiet ones
@@johnnysweekends Correct, open frame. I'm in a canal neighborhood. Only time we lose power is during a coastal storm, and the municipality shuts the grid down to protect the energized electric panels in the basements from getting flooded. Neither myself nor my neighbors care about noise of generators, as we care more about each others houses. Pumps & more pumps working are a must. I do have multiple lithium battery banks to power the house at night, but yes a small quieter inverter with a 30A/240V option would be nice. Or even the ability to run two small decently priced inverters in parallel with 30A/240V would be a good option.
I don't really need another generator, but this one is really nice!
This is a very good video. A lot of great information
Thank you.
You’re welcome and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
awesome review! Harbor freight definitely paid attention to their customers with the release of this. Might pick one up before they decide to charge the accessories separately.
Or raise the price. I feel it’s a entry price and will go up in 6 months unless it’s not popular
@@johnnysweekends yeah absolutely. I remember when the 3500 was about 700ish. Now 899.. so the same could happen if these start flying off the shelves.
Yup guess we will see in 6 months or so
@@johnnysweekends Do you happen to know if the ag timber tax exemption might apply to this?
You would have to ask your accountant but equipment used for the purpose generally is a write off
Excellent information! Thank you
You’re welcome 👍🏼😀
Awesome review thank you
Excellent review and video. Thank you.
Thank you 😀👍🏼
Johnny: "I'm gonna pull the rope in super slow-mo to get gas to the carb and circulate the...'
Predator: Starts
😳😂
Lol yea that was unexpected 😂
Thank you for the excellent breakdown. I learned a lot from you. I'm brand new to generators, and don't spend a lot of time maintaining engines. Can you give me an idea how much maintenance this model needs? Am I going to have to get under the hood and adjust stuff and swap parts all winter long? Can I keep this outside all winter out in the open, or does it need some weather protection around it? Last winter we had an ice/wind storm, drove us and others out of our homes for several days, million$ in fallen trees and other damages around the county. Is a machine like this up to that sort of thing?
Would love to see a video of changing the jets for different altitudes!
As you wish…! Predator 5000 Inverter Generator Jetting Change Easy DIY And Do You Need To?
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@@johnnysweekends that was quick! Guess I should have just looked myself 🤣
@benolmstead4 👍🏼😁
Excellent review. Thanks Johnny.
You’re welcome and thanks for watching 😀👍🏼
Love your videos. Just picked one up as it checks all the boxes. Is it possible to use the 30A plug with an interlock and generator inlet box to feed a home panel? It has a floating neutral whereas the home panel is bonded.
Yes this will work fine as NEC says only one bonding point which is your home 👍🏼
Another great review! My “want” list is growing! 🤠👍🇺🇸
Thanks Jeff and right 👍🏼😂
Wow, great Improvement’s!!!
Thanks!
I have gone through 3 Westinghouse igen 4500 dfc and 1 I6500 Genmax in the last 2 years. The Genmax sucked as well as their customer service so bad that I threw it away. The Wesinghouse's have had different problems as in cant get parts for them because customer service is too stupid to understand what I am telling them. The only reason I bought those others was because I needed remote and HF didn't have a remote unit. Finally they have!! I love their warranty and replacement policy and the fact that I can actually look someone in the eye when I have a problem. I'm going to buy one this week. Thanks for the review. Subed and liked!
Nice, and true the Hf return is Tough to beat like Costco…Thanks for watching 👍🏼😀👊🏼
Thanks for the review of this. It looks great. I need a unit to replace my old Onan on board generator as it's too costly to repair and this looks pretty good. It is heavy but I suspect bigger ones are heavier and so long as it can run the fridge and one AC unit, I'm good with that.
There are a few other units you could look into that are a little lighter and will do the same. Like the champion 4500/4650
Or the wen 4000. A lot of options.
But this thing is built more like the old Honda eu3000is just big and heavy duty. Very curious how this will hold up.
It is quiet for sure
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for the insight. I'll look around to see what fits best for us. Love your reviews of these, it really helps!
Awesome glad I can help and thanks for watching 😀👍🏼
Has Predator done anything about the malfunctioning CO monitor system? I would love to give this one a shot, but need to know if they've fixed that system in this new generator, otherwise I'll be voiding the warranty like so many others have had to do by deleting that system. For those that may be curious, go look up that problem and you'll see how many are out there ... bought two 3500's on the same day because of it. Then learned it was a massive problem.
Another great video. I'd like to see a comparison between this one and the Champion 5500 dual fuel. I've had some reliability issues with the Predators and spending the extra $ for extended warranties can become an issue after using the warranty the first time. The Champion comes standard with a 3yr warranty and is priced at $1099.00 at Cabela's. I agree that Predator put some thought into the layout and maintenance for this one. Time will tell and I hope they've improved the display monitor.
Happy camping and testing and thanks for another great & informative video Johnny.
@redSnowplow7985 the original predator was great but they made a change about half way through a couple years in changing the manufacturer. This is when they were no longer as tough as the first runs or original models. I think they went though 3 changes in total.
Will be interesting to see how long this lasts
@@johnnysweekends agreed. I carry a pair of Honda 2200’s for my 30a Grand Design though I can get by with one since installing the MicroAir east start.
Ahh yea popular choice and yea once the ac is up and going one doesn’t do bad. Are you running a 15k ac unit ?
@@johnnysweekends my Honda 2200 runs my 15k on my 33' forest river
Mine will as well but when at some altitude and a really hot day it’s maxed
That’s nice. My 3500 just gulped.
DOH!!!!!
We picked one up a few days ago when a storm knocked out the power. It kept the AC on in our 30amp travel trailer without any issues and only used about 5 gallons of gas. Power was out for about 16 hours. My main complaints would be they could have included a small bottle of oil and the stickers on the top curled up and came off the first day of it running out in the sun. There was also an e clip missing on one of the side door knobs and I have requested a replacement. Yes I know I can just go pick one up but it's a good test of their customer service I think. I think it'll be a good generator.
Got a response from HF customer service. They said they don't carry the part but I could return it under warranty which is just ridiculous. They sell the clips in the stores.
Lol wow that is weird. You should return it and just get a new one to just prove a point 😂
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
@@SlowJamminJames it's been great. We have only needed to use it a couple times. I did have an issue because I may not have drained the carburetor completely after use or it could have just been bad gas which made it hard to start but that's all really. I have switched to using propane for when I start it periodically to make sure it's working. Also started using Lucas stabilizer in the fuel. I would definitely buy another one.
@@risbill1 Thank you for the response
Great video. Glad i didn't buy the 3500 for 899$ much better deal now.
I have a feeling this is a entry price and it will go up to about $1099-$1199
So will see in a few months or so
I am buying one today!
Thank you for sharing this! Question. Will only running this on propane make the motor last longer?
I just bought a 3500 2 weeks ago... wish I new this was coming 😂😢
It’s like when buying a new phone lol
Just bought one two days ago. Edison is doing maintenance and will have no power for 12 plus hours on a few separate days. Right now I have a refrigerator, portable A/C unit, wifi, and a 75" TV. 3 hours in and everything good !
Nice !! Keep the group updated 😀
How has the Predator 5000 performed since you posted this comment? How much have you used it and would you purchase another predator 5000?
I want to run a 3500 w heater on this for my carpet cleaning extractor. Would that be too much for this unit to handle? Or will it stress the generator out too much?
Great review. They definitely upgraded the older 3500. Did they fix the surging issues? I returned my 3500's (2) due to them running rough without a major load on them. They still worked great just didn't want to find out if they would last. Ended up with (3) 2000's instead and like the redundancy. Fuel/oil changes can be done one at a time without interrupting power. Plus they use less fuel and I can use 1, 2, or 3 at a time depending on load/fuel conservation needs.
Surging issues who knows until they have been out for a while.
But yea your setup seems fine if it’s working and you can parallel all 3 at once if you need to..👍🏼
I had one unit start surging at 15hrs of use, idk how to fix it so I gave it back and got new one that wasn’t starting and when it did it shut off in 15 secs. 0hr use, so now I’m back on 3500, idk what the deal is, wish it was a good unit I had because all the features is really nice and worth the price
Outstanding review Johnny.... I was going to buy the Westinghouse 4500 DF..... but now after seeing this video, I'm not so sure now.... I just may buy this one....
Do not buy the WF4500 anything lol. That one is still having problems. Read the reviews on the choke fix. Still to this day it is having issues.
@@johnnysweekends , what about the refurbished one that have been sent back to Westinghouse, one year warranty and a couple hundred cheaper?
From everything I get for info on these just stay away. I dont really see issues with the onan model.
@@johnnysweekends Thanks, I’ll take your guidance on this.
Be nice if it had battery terminal jump post 👍👍👍
Nice 👍🏼 thankyou. I got it 🤣so i can run my portable amplifier though it . Guitar 🎸 electric drum kit 🥁 portable keyboard 🎹 PA system ect. Musician 🎵😂❤.
Wish this came in a natural gas version. I have a NG quick connect hookup I use for my grill and fire table.
This I bet will be a easy NG conversion.
They make kits but I bet only a partial is needed.
Guess I’ll have to dig around and do it lol
@@johnnysweekends Very Interesting!! I'm thinking you might only need the NG regulator and the bigger orifice/jet.
I wish the 3500 wasn’t so expensive now days. I’m thankful I managed to grab the champion 2500w dual fuel generator for 385$ shipped on prime day!! Generators now days have went crazy on prices lately.
Yea many units went up in price. But are trickling back down especially with competition coming.
But you grabbed a smoking deal.
@@johnnysweekends right?! I had originally bought the genmax 3300i for 499 with a coupon then the next day I saw the prime deal on the champion 2500 dual fuel and immediately bought it. It was a hassle to return the genmax cause Amazon said they usually don’t allow returns of generators but since I didn’t open it and I begged them they allowed me to return it😂😂🙏🙏
Fair warning Amazon could deny your return if anyone ever tried to return a generator. I had no clue there were exceptions to their amazing return policy until 3 days ago 😂😂😂😂
@@johnnysweekends you don’t mind me asking (this is my first ever generator) but I was curious if I had to move the fuel cap vent on or off if I’m only using LP?? I know you move it when you use gasoline but I’m only using a 20lb propane tank and I read the manual and it never mentioned moving that on off switch on the fuel cap when using Lp lol. Figured I’d ask as I’m on your 2 of the 5 hour break in. Also I followed your load break in first and then changed the oil! Just running low loads for 5 hours now until another oil change haha
Yea it’s odd because they just started that I guess but I think because they have no way to tell if fuel and oil has been added so then it’s a hazardous material thing
4:44 you mention "overfill the generator" here. what, overfill with oil, fuel, or whiskey? Can you elaborate on this issue?
Buying one today thanks
awesome and informative video, really helpful
So when using propane you don't have to prime? impressive. Great video, Thanks
The LP tank is pressurized so really it’s just turn it on give it a few slow pulls to get the air out of line then a quick one and away it should go
Impressive! I would love to see a shootout between this, the Champion 4650, Genmax, 4500 and any others in that class.
My friend has the 4650 and it’s getting used a lot 🤔
I agree. The Champion 4650 is the closest competitor to the Predator 5000. I don't consider the extra starting watts on the Predator 5000 or even the Champion 5500 to really matter, since 4650 watts (30A @ 120VAC) is the absolute maximum that the 30A line can handle. I suppose you could have the 30A socket tied into your RV or home's transfer box, plus a couple items plugged into the 5-15 outlets...but I am not sure many people run their generators like that.
Not in stock till Dec20-21
But I’m definitely gonna get one when available
Someone in your family works in a Operating Room huh?? I instantly recognized the pitcher and blue towels lol
That would be me… almost 20 years 🤫😂👍🏼