Ran mine for the first time today for about 5 hours, no load. Really excited about this thing. Ironically, the power went out this evening. But only for about 20 seconds. Just long enough for my wife to realize I truly am a walking, talking genius. 😂
Use a3 inch small windshield washer hose and push it on to the top of the spark plug then use it to finger start the spark plug. If it doesn’t go in easily then back it all the way out and try it again. Your chances of cross threading the plug is next to impossible. A thin film of nickel anti seize on the threads will help you the next time you change the plug. Be sure to keep the first couple of threads dry. This will prevent the anti seize from getting into the combustion chamber.
@@Suds649 I find that setting in place and then gently turn it in the "wrong" direction to feel the threads when the plug drops. That's when the threads are lined up. Then, carefully, turn it with my fingers to ensure I don't cross thread it. After it's fully seated, by hand, I then use a socket to fully set it.
Thank you sir. I usually don't make comments such as this but your video was cut and dry about the points that you were making and your speech is nice and clear. Thanks for the info and have a good day. I tried watching another video (not yours) earlier about my generator but the first several minutes were a parody of Chris Hansen's "To Catch a Predator" TV show and i just couldn't get through it...smh
Thanks for posting your video and giving us new guys tips. Don’t worry about all the no it alls and their comments. I don’t see any them posting videos to help anyone.
Your welcome, yea I see all the know it all’s but I ignore them. I have been a mechanic for 40 years and I know what I’m talking about. There is always people who pretend to know but I just do my thing because I know what’s right. Thanks for watchin
Not me, I put a NGK in, oiled air filter, removed spark arrester, Installed a small, paper gas line filter between shut off and carb before ever starting my two 2020 model 3500's. Factory plug and spark arrester are zip tied inside unit if needed in the future. Great, reliable outfits if used as intended and not modified by people that don't know what they are doing. Don't make oiling air filter such a fuss. Simply place a few drops of oil on it and squeeze as B&S said in the 60's. The oil will migrate to all areas just fine. Good video.
@@Woodzman After looking inside and the tons of reviews by many having thousands of trouble free hrs. I bought a second one. Love them here on the farm as they are before the CO sensors. Just bought a 2000 W on sale for the heck of it and have to figure out how to disable the CO sensor before starting it up. Pretty sure I know which wires to bypass it. You did a great video with good advice.
I just bought this Im using penzoil 5w 30 full synthetic I run full synthetic in all my small engines.I wouldnt use regular oil especially in a generator that is running around the clock.
Have run 1 HF 5000. For over 3600hr. Oil change started every 25hrs to first 100. Then 100hr after. Only straight 30w. Ele. Starter issues now. Traded in for a new one last Saturday
you want to use traditional oil during the break in period to make sure the piston rings seat correctly. Synthetic is too slick and the engine wont break in properly. After a couple oil changes you can switch to synthetic.
@bansheerider619 I can oil every 25hrs till 100hr. Only standard 30w. Have over 3600hr on my 5000 HF . Had 1 with about same hours starter went out and slight oil burning no enough to add between oil change . HF ext. Warranty. Np
@ 5 or 10 it doesn’t matter. What’s important is that you use 30w. I’m using 10w30 non synthetic to break in the engine. After the break in period I will switch to 10w30 synthetic
I'm finally buying my first ever generator. Since i want to use a PC during an outage, i found out about these inverter types. This model is cheap enough and has great reviews. I read that it will run 18.2 hours under a 25% load on a full tank. "25% load" That's talking about 1/4 of it's total output? I have no math skills. How many hours will it run under a 100% load on a full tank? I'd just be guessing. Thanks to anyone who knows. Thanks
25% load is 975w (25% of 3900 running watts using gasoline). Another UA-camr did a gasoline and propane run test and got about the same for both fuels. He pulled about 1500w and got 12 hours on a tank of gasoline (~2gal) or about 12 hours on a 20lb propane tank.
Great video. Question as I'm not spark plug "knowledgable": Is the factory spark plug gapped smaller because it runs on propane, or does that make any difference given the less dense fuel? Thanks...just got one of these for our new NO-BO 20.3, so looking forward to getting it right the first time. GOD Bless
I don’t remember the gap, but I actually measured the gap on the factory plug and set the NGK to the same. I should have shown it in the video but forgot
just saw on another channel that there is a spate of fake NGK spark plugs being sold on-line. This guy said only buy them from an auto-parts store to assure it is authentic.
The Predator 5000 is Recalled and out of stock. If anyone bought one, check out serial number and take it back if a bad unit. Many complaints that they shut off under substantial, but within specs, loads. Until they get this one correct, the Champion 4650 w/ dual fuel and remote start is the ticket. Just as quiet. No issues. If you really want a Predator 5000 they apparently will be restocking a 'fixed' unit Dec 21st.
@@Woodzman thank you! I wanted the 5000 but they didn’t have one, said they was on recall and I needed something cause I didn’t want to go throw the holidays with out something.
@@Woodzman the 3500 I bought is still in the box. I’ve never had to use it……I’m thinking about seeing if I can return it for the 5000….I got what I thought was a good price $681.96 out the door but I still feel like the 5000 would be a better fit for my needs.
This video has dang near the same exact wording as another video I watched. Regardless good info. When changing the jets in mine today I noticed the air filter was dry as a bone
Thanks for the response. So you connect it to your RV PROPANE? using the quick connect? I got the same unit and now trying to figure out how to connect use it with my RV propane. Thanks!!!
@Shumaxer714 I have two propane bottles on my RV so I connect the generator to one of them using the quick connect. The propane is not actually connected to the RV
Will this generator run a window unit, fridge, deep freezer, lights, and fans? I’m trying to determine whether I can go with the 5000 or if I need the 9500.
Today is August 27, 2024, bought mine on June 13, 2024 and it’s a piece of Junk! Ran good for the first month and then running the same load it would shut down because it was showing an overload. It now does this even with nothing plugged in! I’m extremely disappointed! Now I have to drive almost 2 hours to harbor freight to exchange it.
You should be putting filter oil on the air filter. Not motor oil. Filter oil will actually tac up and stop the dirt instead of motor oil being sucked into the intake because it never gets sticky...
That is absolutely not true. Engine oil works fine, I like many others have used it for years on foam filters it it does a fine job of stopping the dust, and if you are sucking the oil into the intake then you have put to much on it.
dont know why you think you need to oil the air filter , if dust can get through that foam you have a very bad filter , you dont need to oil the filter
lol yes you do need oil on the filter. Yes a dry filter will stop a lot of the dust particles but with oil on the filter for the dust to stick to does a lot better job
"Air Filter OIl " ? So where do ya find that Einstein? A few drops of oil on a foam type air filter has been done since at least the late 1950's by many engine manufacturers and it was always a few drops of the engine oil and squeeze out excess.
I must apologize as at 69 and working on engines all my life I never saw Air Filter oil in owners manuals or had anyone mention it. A simple Google search finds it. I just may look into it but only needing a few drops even a small botttle would last a lifetime.
What viscosity do you recommend for the air filter oil? I ONLY use Liquimoly, so I’m a real stickler for these things? Also, I noticed the date code on those tiny tires are a few years old. What an outrage for a brand new generator. I’m sure thinking either Pirelli or Bridgestone. I don’t want to loose the generator on that curve on my walk way.
Ran mine for the first time today for about 5 hours, no load. Really excited about this thing. Ironically, the power went out this evening. But only for about 20 seconds. Just long enough for my wife to realize I truly am a walking, talking genius. 😂
Hahaha
I read somewhere it was bad to run the generator with no load for prolonged periods of time. At least a light for breaking it in, I remember reading.
True
Use a3 inch small windshield washer hose and push it on to the top of the spark plug then use it to finger start the spark plug. If it doesn’t go in easily then back it all the way out and try it again. Your chances of cross threading the plug is next to impossible. A thin film of nickel anti seize on the threads will help you the next time you change the plug. Be sure to keep the first couple of threads dry. This will prevent the anti seize from getting into the combustion chamber.
Good tips! Thanks
@@Suds649 I find that setting in place and then gently turn it in the "wrong" direction to feel the threads when the plug drops. That's when the threads are lined up. Then, carefully, turn it with my fingers to ensure I don't cross thread it. After it's fully seated, by hand, I then use a socket to fully set it.
Thank you sir. I usually don't make comments such as this but your video was cut and dry about the points that you were making and your speech is nice and clear. Thanks for the info and have a good day.
I tried watching another video (not yours) earlier about my generator but the first several minutes were a parody of Chris Hansen's "To Catch a Predator" TV show and i just couldn't get through it...smh
Well thank you for watchin and thanks for the comment. I always like when people make comments and I always answer them!
NGK plugs are awesome...👍👍💪
Thanks for watchin Dan
Thanks for posting your video and giving us new guys tips. Don’t worry about all the no it alls and their comments. I don’t see any them posting videos to help anyone.
Your welcome, yea I see all the know it all’s but I ignore them. I have been a mechanic for 40 years and I know what I’m talking about. There is always people who pretend to know but I just do my thing because I know what’s right.
Thanks for watchin
For the break-in period, I would just run the factory plug. After the break-in, put the new quality plug in the same time you do the first oil change.
That is fine also
Not me, I put a NGK in, oiled air filter, removed spark arrester, Installed a small, paper gas line filter between shut off and carb before ever starting my two 2020 model 3500's. Factory plug and spark arrester are zip tied inside unit if needed in the future. Great, reliable outfits if used as intended and not modified by people that don't know what they are doing. Don't make oiling air filter such a fuss. Simply place a few drops of oil on it and squeeze as B&S said in the 60's. The oil will migrate to all areas just fine. Good video.
@jefffrayer8238 👍
@@Woodzman After looking inside and the tons of reviews by many having thousands of trouble free hrs. I bought a second one. Love them here on the farm as they are before the CO sensors. Just bought a 2000 W on sale for the heck of it and have to figure out how to disable the CO sensor before starting it up. Pretty sure I know which wires to bypass it. You did a great video with good advice.
How long is the break in period for this ?
Purchased my 5000 on 8/13/24 and the foam filter was pre-oiled.
But yes always check the foam air filter before first use!
Definitely
I use K&N oil in an aerosol. Comes in a kit with the cleaner product as well.
That would work also
Was thinking the same thing. Sounds good.
came here looking for this comment! I ride so I have plenty of K&N filter oil
I just bought this Im using penzoil 5w 30 full synthetic I run full synthetic in all my small engines.I wouldnt use regular oil especially in a generator that is running around the clock.
Have run 1 HF 5000. For over 3600hr. Oil change started every 25hrs to first 100. Then 100hr after. Only straight 30w. Ele. Starter issues now. Traded in for a new one last Saturday
you want to use traditional oil during the break in period to make sure the piston rings seat correctly. Synthetic is too slick and the engine wont break in properly. After a couple oil changes you can switch to synthetic.
@bansheerider619 I can oil every 25hrs till 100hr. Only standard 30w. Have over 3600hr on my 5000 HF . Had 1 with about same hours starter went out and slight oil burning no enough to add between oil change . HF ext. Warranty. Np
@@bansheerider619thanks. The sales person told me 5w non-synthetic.
@ 5 or 10 it doesn’t matter. What’s important is that you use 30w. I’m using 10w30 non synthetic to break in the engine. After the break in period I will switch to 10w30 synthetic
Great tips. Thanks. I plan to buy a Predator 5000 soon and will keep these great tips handy.
Thanks for watchin
Im in my camper for 4 days amd run the whole unit with the 5000. Sips fuel, relatively quiet. No problems yet.
That’s good to hear
Love your honda videos, just bought one of these and this popped up! Keep up the good work!
Awesome! Thanks for watchin
I'm not sure if all of them are dry because I purchased mine and it had oil already on the filter. Not sure if they started doing them.
Coat the spark plug thread's with anti seize compound to ensure the head threads never get stripped.
Thanks. Did not know it has a foam filter . 😎
Thanks for watchin
I sprayed some of my K&N Filter Oil on it. Yeah, I know that one is "gauze" not foam, but figured it should still work OK.
@flash8051 I would think so
Once you smell get up, turn it a half turn especially a spark plug with a collapsible washer
Should also consider adding a magnetic drain plug or dip stick prior to first fire up if it didn’t come with one
That's a great medthod for soaking the air filter. Thanks.
Yea and it takes very little oil
Is it easy to drain the fuel out of the tank? Can you do a video of how to do it if it’s possible?
Wouldnt K&N oil work better? Being it's designed for this exact purpose.
It will definitely work, I have always use motor oil with no problem
Thank you! I'm gonna change the spark plug on my 3500.
Your welcome! Thanks for watchin
I'm finally buying my first ever generator. Since i want to use a PC during an outage, i found out about these inverter types. This model is cheap enough and has great reviews. I read that it will run 18.2 hours under a 25% load on a full tank. "25% load" That's talking about 1/4 of it's total output? I have no math skills. How many hours will it run under a 100% load on a full tank? I'd just be guessing. Thanks to anyone who knows. Thanks
25% load is 975w (25% of 3900 running watts using gasoline). Another UA-camr did a gasoline and propane run test and got about the same for both fuels. He pulled about 1500w and got 12 hours on a tank of gasoline (~2gal) or about 12 hours on a 20lb propane tank.
@@andrewmathias52 Great! good to know. thanks for that.....still haven't decided on a generator yet :)
Thanks for watchin, I bout this to run my RV and it does a great job , it will run everything including the ac under and microwave at the same time.
@@Woodzman nice. very cool
Great video. Question as I'm not spark plug "knowledgable": Is the factory spark plug gapped smaller because it runs on propane, or does that make any difference given the less dense fuel? Thanks...just got one of these for our new NO-BO 20.3, so looking forward to getting it right the first time. GOD Bless
I don’t remember the gap, but I actually measured the gap on the factory plug and set the NGK to the same. I should have shown it in the video but forgot
@@Woodzman no sweat brutha - good info - thanks! GOD Bless
just saw on another channel that there is a spate of fake NGK spark plugs being sold on-line. This guy said only buy them from an auto-parts store to assure it is authentic.
@sandypidgeon4343 you definitely have to be careful
...and as the manual says:
You want to do a 30 hour break-in under a 25-50% load...
Then change the oil.
What plug would you use for the 3500?
I would take it out and have your auto parts store match it up with an NGK, it may be the same as the 5000 but I don’t know
@@Woodzman thank you
Your so welcome
@@Woodzman your smart
I recommend NGK 4055 for the 3500.
The Predator 5000 is Recalled and out of stock. If anyone bought one, check out serial number and take it back if a bad unit. Many complaints that they shut off under substantial, but within specs, loads.
Until they get this one correct, the Champion 4650 w/ dual fuel and remote start is the ticket. Just as quiet. No issues. If you really want a Predator 5000 they apparently will be restocking a 'fixed' unit Dec 21st.
Yea mine is not in the serial number range
They are back in stock and running fine.
Great video, thank you. I just got mine and glad I saw this before I fired it up for the first time.
Thanks for watchin
Awesome - thank you so much for this information.
Thanks for watchin
I have a predator and like it but it certainly is not super quiet.
Mine is pretty quiet
😂They sure aren't!
Are the 3500 inverters good units?
Oh yea I have heard a lot of good about them
@@Woodzman thank you! I wanted the 5000 but they didn’t have one, said they was on recall and I needed something cause I didn’t want to go throw the holidays with out something.
@tomc8930 the best part about the 5000 in my opinion is the dual fuel
@@Woodzman the 3500 I bought is still in the box. I’ve never had to use it……I’m thinking about seeing if I can return it for the 5000….I got what I thought was a good price $681.96 out the door but I still feel like the 5000 would be a better fit for my needs.
If it wasn’t to long ago maybe they will
This video has dang near the same exact wording as another video I watched. Regardless good info. When changing the jets in mine today I noticed the air filter was dry as a bone
Thanks for Watchin
Thank you so much for this video I learned a lot
Thanks for watchin
How do you hook it up to run your RV?
The Generator already has a 30 amp outlet so my RV plugs right into it
Thanks for the response. So you connect it to your RV PROPANE? using the quick connect? I got the same unit and now trying to figure out how to connect use it with my RV propane. Thanks!!!
@Shumaxer714 I have two propane bottles on my RV so I connect the generator to one of them using the quick connect. The propane is not actually connected to the RV
Got it! thank you for all the useful info about this unit. 👍
Did you have to install the AC soft start to run the AC with this generator?
Great tips thanks u sir I'm just getting started
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the info. Have you had any problems with unit turning off due to co2 detector
Non at all
Good advice
Thank you very helpful
Thanks for watchin
Will this generator run a window unit, fridge, deep freezer, lights, and fans? I’m trying to determine whether I can go with the 5000 or if I need the 9500.
It should, that’s basically the same thing I run in my RV with it
I need to tell you this, but a non resistant plug is a lot better than a resistant plug
I ageee for some applications, but in some applications not having a resistor spark plug can cause interference in some electrical components
THANKS A LOT GREAT VIDEO
Thanks for watchin
Today is August 27, 2024, bought mine on June 13, 2024 and it’s a piece of Junk!
Ran good for the first month and then running the same load it would shut down because it was showing an overload. It now does this even with nothing plugged in!
I’m extremely disappointed! Now I have to drive almost 2 hours to harbor freight to exchange it.
There was a recall on a certain lot of these....I am unboxing mine which I bought around the same time.
You should be putting filter oil on the air filter. Not motor oil. Filter oil will actually tac up and stop the dirt instead of motor oil being sucked into the intake because it never gets sticky...
That is absolutely not true. Engine oil works fine, I like many others have used it for years on foam filters it it does a fine job of stopping the dust, and if you are sucking the oil into the intake then you have put to much on it.
dont know why you think you need to oil the air filter , if dust can get through that foam you have a very bad filter , you dont need to oil the filter
lol yes you do need oil on the filter. Yes a dry filter will stop a lot of the dust particles but with oil on the filter for the dust to stick to does a lot better job
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Thanks so much
Wrong type of oil used. That won't work well. Air filter oil would be a better choice.
lol it will work just fine, I have used standard motor oil on foam filters for years and it does a fine job.
"Air Filter OIl " ? So where do ya find that Einstein? A few drops of oil on a foam type air filter has been done since at least the late 1950's by many engine manufacturers and it was always a few drops of the engine oil and squeeze out excess.
You are correct! They actually do make air filter oil but standard motor oil works just fine.
I must apologize as at 69 and working on engines all my life I never saw Air Filter oil in owners manuals or had anyone mention it. A simple Google search finds it. I just may look into it but only needing a few drops even a small botttle would last a lifetime.
What viscosity do you recommend for the air filter oil? I ONLY use Liquimoly, so I’m a real stickler for these things?
Also, I noticed the date code on those tiny tires are a few years old. What an outrage for a brand new generator. I’m sure thinking either Pirelli or Bridgestone. I don’t want to loose the generator on that curve on my walk way.
The plug thing is unnecessary
You are correct
1. You didn’t put oil.
2. No gas
3. You didn’t start it.
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Uh ok lol
I saw 5 videos on the 5000 dual, inverter generator, BEST VIDEO, 0 THANK YOU
Thanks for watching
What about different brands of generators should put oil on air filters on different brands of generator?
Yes any of them that have a foam filter