EcoFlow DUAL FUEL 1800w Gas / Propane Smart Generator Review
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The Professor reviews the EcoFlow dual fuel (gas & LPG) 1800w smart generator designed with auto stop start function and remote APP to charge EcoFlow Power Stations.
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UPDATE: This generator does NOT require Internet access to run. It's a one time setup only!
Thanks for the good report on ecoflow generator
discount code seems to not work anymore unfortunately...
The electric ignition was painful to watch, but, as always, an excellent review! I’m impressed with the power output under a high load, throttling down is better than tripping off.
You are starting it in the wrong place. lol. You turn the knob till it is just off from the OFF spot when you are using propane.
I wonder how long a 20lb tank would last at say….1000watts of charging a EcoFlow Pro.
I second this recommendation.
And since we are taking about HoBo’s Time and Dime 😂
It’s an even better idea.
I’ll watch the whole video too.
I apologize for hammering you with comments, but I’ve been using dual fuel gens for 20+ years. They are all harder to start on propane because the demand regulator can’t get sufficient vacuum without a good pull, and it’s worse at altitude. That’s probably why yours won’t electric start. If your viewers want a reliable & cheap-ish dual fuel generator of this size, I recommend the Champion 2500 ($550 street). I have one & it works great.
hi thanks for another great video. I was just wondering if anyone ever ended up calculating how long EcoFlow's dual-fuel generator ran on a full propane tank? (at full output wattage of around 1600W. Thanks again
It almost sounds like the flow safety valve on the tank was tripped just turn gas off remove the hose and replace fully then slowly turn gas on you should hear a click.
The added convenience of using oripane or gasoline is undeniable. This is something I can really use.
Weird.. when I click on your link it’s 1299, not including your percent off code. But when I go to the Black Friday page it’s 999. Ah.. dual fuel or not. That makes sense.
Hopefully at some point they will make it work on the delta 2 also
One thing I do love about the Smart Generator is that I can also monitor it by using the same Ecoflow App that I use to monitor my Delta power station.
13:54 the electric start worked…maybe you need to let the engine run and charge the battery inside the generator first?
If that cable to connect to the Delta Pro is Ecoflow proprietary then it is way too short, obviously it needs to be outside and Delta PRO inside, that is the deal breaker for me as mine are in my basement by my panel and Generator would be outside, would need a 50ft cable for sure as the generator should be a good 10+ ft away from the home IMO.
Wow! At my age I can't be yanking that starter rope. I'll take a hard pass on this one.
Great video tho! Glad you reviewed it.👍
Exactly. And you pay a premium for the honor of pull starting it. 🤑
I just bought an electric start dual fuel 65lb 3500w generator for several hundred dollars less than what this 1800w one costs. At the start of the video I was afraid I had missed out on an opportunity but by the end of the video no such worries.
It's always a good idea to have a standby power source and the EcoFlow Dual Fuel Smart Generator fits that purpose quite well...
So happy to see this review this morning - thank you! This gen is next on my list. I have Max/Wave and solar is not really a good option at 48North (NW Montana) on wooded property. I have watched EcoFlow's video on how to operate and maintain the gen, but always good to see your review. And I guess I've not been paying attention ... I did NOT know that propane lived forever :) ***Edited to add that I love the EcoFlow app and found it worked very well. I ran the Wave in my home office (10x11ish) mostly from house outlets but some testing from the Max. Even though I was very close to the unit, the app is easier to use and info at a glance.
48 north, nice I’m at 58 north, nice to meet you 👋🏼
Most owners with dual fuel generators know that the trick is so do 5 to 10 quick pulls of the cord to prime the system, works every time
I watched Echoflow video on this gen … didn’t go back this morning, but I do remember there was at least 1-2 slow prime pulls in their video.
Liked the video.
PS: When using recoil starter, do NOT just jerk the handle. 1st softly pull to engage the recoil to the flywheel, then give it a steady pull. This procedure will extend the life of the recoil starting system.
Also not fair to take a dB reading from a unit in a garage that acts like an amphitheater. True test would be in open surroundings at your measured distance. Grass and other plant life will also reduce true readings.
Owner of many Honda EU-series generators sets. Quietest in the business. Looking very hard at the new battery back-up systems and this unit is "smart" for generator b/u to the battery system for extended outage. In fact, I just ordered the unit you are testing for personal review and ease of use for my mother as it has electric start. (had to get EU3000 at 130+lbs to get electric start.)
P-Chi this feature).
This generator is meant to auto-start when it detects the low battery level on your ecoflow.... if the electric start doesn't work reliably then it's useless. Needing to pull the cord a couple times makes this no better than every other generator.
my thoughts exactly, disappointing.
So about $1300 with discount and taxes on the black Friday sale. I guess it's an ok deal when you consider the features and the capacity on propane. I have a propane only generator that is much smaller and I think I paid 550 with shipping and tax. Starts up first go every time but only outputs 850 watts at 6000+ feet where I tend to use it. I would like a model that could handle a bit more but with a battery array as a buffer it will do fine.
Aside from being able to use propane and gasoline. This Smart Generator would look good beside the Delta Pro.
I get that they added a bunch of electronics to the generator but 1300 dollars (on sale) for a generator that produces 1600/1800w depending on the fuel you use, is kinda lame TBQH. You can pick up a champion dual fuel inverter 2500 that is basically the same running watts for around 500 dollars on sale. I am not sure the electronics added are worth a 145% increase in price. Are the auto features worth 145% increased cost?
Yes that’s what I was thinking. I got a wen 3800 for 600.
Remote monitoring would be nice but not sure what the extra smarts really do.
Lot of electronics but I agree. This is for somebody who's looking for seamless integration with their existing EcoFlow system.
Too much money otherwise. 2 cycle 800 watt Harbor freight generators $100 😂😂😂😂. You can definitely do better on price. Not same thing but there's definitely cheaper options.
Did you ever Figure out why the electric start wouldn't work for such a expensive generator
Because propane (especially if cold?), and the new line, with partially charged battery, lack of priming. Once he had it going for awhile it started back up immediately… which means the main kinks in the connection were removed and battery was freshly charged, etc. Pulling the cord a few times slowly with the system powered down can help prime it-from what I gather… then turn on and try starting. Presumably, it will start more easily later on if it hasn’t been disconnected or let to sit a long time.
Thanks for another thorough review. Great information, as usual.
I depend a lot on UA-cam reviews, on your channel for this subject, and many others. If I may, what would be super helpful is a brief summary at the end.
Here's why: Although I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos, front to back, and you're usually my first stop, I'm often seriously considering a purchase and want to gather as much data about the product as quickly as possible. Yes, sorry, I do stray to other UA-camrs from time to time 😊and I'll wager a lot of your loyal viewers do the same.
If I can jump to the end of your review and get a quick summary, I can collate it with a couple other trusted experts (if they include summaries), and come to a relatively quick buying conclusion. Then, as time permits, I'll go back and watch the whole video to pick up more detail.
I hope this helps.
Thanks again. Your Facebook group is wonderful as well. I'd urge anyone who hasn't visited it to go there immediately. Lots of well informed members will jump in to help solve problems. Tremendous resource!
Can you think of an easy way to direct the exhaust to the outside?
It would be nice to be able to have a Delta Pro and this generator close by/indoors.
There are videos on how to do it
Did performance mode (aka full throttle) allow it to start on propane each time?
Seems like eco mode was not happy starting on propane. Looks like a firmware update is needed to fix that :)
Thanks Tom for another great video
Settings made no difference.
I assume the 12 volt wasn't charged enough out of the box
This is WAY too expensive compared to other generators. WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. This is Honda/Yamaha pricing but probably made by the same companies that make champion, a-ipower, and pretty much every other non Honda/Yamaha store bought generator. Just go to generator bible and you can buy 2 - much more powerful inexpensive honday/yamaha clones for the same price as this one. This makes me think you are more interested in getting kickbacks from your links then actually giving an in-depth review
Just got this generator and was unable to do the electric start on propane as well. Ran the unit for an hour for break-in. Will try electric start again tomorrow
It started just fine after it ran for a while.
How's the electric start now?
It's only a smart generator in warm weather. Once it's 32° or below you need to warm it up for 3 minutes before you can apply any load to it including your Delta pro unit, so it needs to remain unloaded and therefore isn't smart at all in cold weather.
Thats y i have a room built just for the ecoflow and equipment. As i live in northern mn
That initial propane startup is interesting and concerning..
Definitely want to run through the break-in period before relying on it in an emergency.
Just remember to slowly open propane tanks valve and keep full bottles, will last for ever
A couple of late comments to this great video. Generator mfg’s state the oil capacity in the manual, so if you measure it out first you won’t get any mess. Run for 10 hours to break-in and change the oil! After that change oil @ interval in manual. Over 40+ years I’ve found it best to use 5W-30 (any decent brand) if you live where it gets cold. If temps rarely go below freezing 10W-30 is fine. I prefer synthetic but it probably doesn’t matter.
Flow points of 10w synthetic is significantly better than conventional. You usually see same flow results for 5w and 10w the same until your like down to -10f..
The Dual-Fuel Generator with a brain. 😗 I also read these generators can start automatically to recharge your power station based on your settings on the mobile app. Very cool 😎 (Except, they will not ship these to Commie-fornia addresses).
Not true, I purchased one on the EcoFlow website 3 weeks ago and it arrived in San Jose, CA. without issue. I recall that on Amazon they will not ship to CA.
Hi and thanks for posting, does it work without having a smart phone and has it been tested to recharge other branded power stations for example a Bluetti AC180p. Cheers Glenn v
Air in the empty propane hose?
ANOTHER GREAT informative video, Tom .... "THANK YOU" !!!! 👌👍👍👍
WOW ... 7000 ft elevation ? Are the winters tough in that area , ? Snow ?? (I'm at sea level in Massachusetts so not bad in the winter months here ) ..
The weather is great. We do get some snow during winter but it doesn't get crazy cold.
Its the Propane bro, It will never get its full rated watts on propane. I have a DF gen as well, mine is 4500 watt so the power loss is not a issue for me. If you used regular gasoline It would be close to max watts.
Another another comment, lithium starting batteries are just dumb. They don’t work when it’s winter cold, it’s stupidly difficult to find replacements, and they only last for a few years. Lead acid still has its place. Interesting how the only people to use custom lithium as a starting battery are Chinese companies that make lithium batteries…
I found out from that Scotty guy on the auto channel that as long as the codes on the oil jug meets the application you’re good. Wow 8 pulls. And a great number’s of cranking. No joy 🎉. The 7000’ is a issue but understand it and working it and knowing why is a good heads-up. Thanks again for your review their a great service. Tom all that stuff in your van. Just saying.
I'd rather have a gas can than a propane tank. my truck runs on gasoline. Lot easier to siphon gas out of that, than constantly fetch propane somewhere in an emergency. On the other hand, my 7000 watt gen set at home is hooked up to a natural gas line.
The added convenience of using oripane or gasoline is undeniable. This is something I can really use.
Oops.. let’s see what anonymous support call (if there is a call center) or email chain gets Hobo to correct the electric start issue. How long, if the people were American, and what it took to get the issue resolved. As usual, great exam/test. Informative.
I have an ecoflow Delta Pro. Had an issues with a Open Ground issue when hooked to my home. Sent an email and by the end of the day I had a reply with a way to resolve the issue. So hope they will do the same for all products.
@@joshc606 good to know. Thanks.
@John Ross I bought Delta Pro/wave bundle and was missing a cable. Customer Svc responded immediately. Supply chain issue but CS kept me informed until ship.
@@johnross6314 And a correction ... I have the Max/Wave bundle not Pro.
when I had watched another review .they couldn't start because the proppane tank was low on propane
Thank you for taking the time to make this review and actually test this in a way that helps us understand how this thing works. I really like the bundle that they have (with the power station included) but it's still at least $2,000 and tough to spend that money. The problem is when we really need it will probably be happy if we can get one at Double the price.
I would add a filter to your propane line. Rubber hoses can deteriorate from the inside and send tiny particles into the fuel system and clog it. Propane does take a while to fill up the lines. Is there a primer button like you’d find on a Mr. Heater propane heater? That would be a nice feature.
Just make a copper whip and eliminate the rubber line.
thanks if you start the generator with no load at all will it run at high idel like a Honda and only speed up when the load is applied Thanks
It looked like you open the gas cap air port after the 7th pull so it appears to me it started technically on the 1st pull once gas cap was in on position.
Its running propane, dude.
Have you considered loading it with Aspen fuel ? - that is ethanol free, burns cleaner, does not degrade quickly - and does not destroy rubber and about 5 times as expensive as E5 from the gas station.
They sell ethanol free gas at gas stations in AZ. That's all I use in my small engines.
who makes the engine ?
Is it fuel injected or carb?
Carb
It doesn't come with the adapter you have to order that separate. So you will spend basically between this and the pro model roughly 4 grand and you still can't use it. Geez just throw in the adapter and add it to the price. It would cost another 70 bucks hardly something that would change ones mind when they are already spending over 4 grand. My other criticism of this is why not have some outlets on it in case the pro goes down?
It does have an outlet. Did you watch the review?
@@HOBOTECH Yup one outlet so a 1200 dollar one outlet generator? That doesn't come with all the parts. At the end of the day its just constructive criticism. I was hoping eco flow would consider it in the future because it would make an okay product into a great product. Considering the wonderful tech ability they already show us I can't imagine it would be to hard to do.
@@johnmal5975it’s one outlet, as it’s only providing one full circuit =1800 watts =15 amps. Obviously they expect you to put whatever plug divider/power bar you want-but if they put two outlets on it then someone would expect it to supply enough for two full circuits, when it just splitting one. Therefore it’s better for you to do it.
@@GMC-qo9xi That person would no nothing about generators or power stations. None of eco flows power stations work like that or the competitions . Gas/propane generators normally have at least 2 120 outlets The price of this thing it should also. Sorry its lame just an opinion to each his own.
@@johnmal5975 exactly regarding the opinions. My opinion is the single plug actually makes more sense, as it keeps the front clean and simple and I’d rather have one cord coming out the front instead of like 6! Lol… one cord that feeds the rest of them from the ground. But having said that, for many it already is 2 outlets, as the DC out to an EF power station must be used to make sense of buying this machine in the first place… BUT what is an even more important point is that you can then leave everything plugged into the power station while it is charging through the DC port. IF you don’t generally use it for EF products-you would (probably) be wise to not buy it, as you can get remote start machines that are cheaper, lighter and much quieter than the EF.
I was tempted to buy it today, as the price after multiple discounts was the lowest it’s ever been (in Canada), but I decided not to based on the noise factor considering the relatively low output-as it needs to run full bore/volume to get the needed output. Can get a lighter, quieter, higher output package for the same price as their best possible price.
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ECOFLOWAFF works perfectly fine
I don't get why you don't use the wall socket
Use the dip stick on the oil fill cap, don't just fill to top. Also open propane valve all the way, use a hand levered ball valve between line and bottle if you need quick shut off.
Hello. I'm asking you for help. We have a war in Ukraine. All infrastructures are constantly bombed. There is no light. Our gas boiler works in the house from the light. It's cold in Ukraine. There is no other heating in our house except the boiler. It's cold in the house. If you have the opportunity to help us, we will be very grateful to you. We don't have the opportunity to buy such a device in our family. Please help. I apologize for my request. I'm sorry.
That unit is too expensive for 1 outlet, and electric start that leaves alot to be desired. The battery sounded healthy in the beginning. I bought an ALP generator/inv. 100% propane. It does take 4 pulls to start. Also, has a purge valve for the propane. There are plenty of dual fuel units out there, too bad ECO flow is the last one in the parking lot
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What other sub 2000 Watt electric start high efficiency inverter generator do you know of? Also, ever hear of a plug strip?
So it doesn't work automatically on propane💩💯
If you watch the whole video you see it auto start twice
I wouldn't touch a generator with computerized controllers - especially not a screen and Bluetooth and the like.
A generator is a last ditch device. It's like having a fire extinguisher with an OLED screen and a tactile switch for the trigger.
What I would totally buy is a smart add-on for a Honda generator.
I have the Hutchmountian propane kit for my Honda 2200i and it does work well, but I do have to pull it about 3 to 4 times for it to start on propane & 4 to 5 times for the natural gas to start but it runs nice.
Also customer service is incredible with them I kid you not.
I like the auto stop-start-charge. I will wait for Bluetti and others to come out with theirs. Hopefully the price will come down.
Did you charge the 12-volt battery? It probably arrives too weak to start it on its own. And after you ran it for a while it charged enough to start it....
1:17 I wonder if Honda sends you that stuff if you buy one of their generators. No king of the hill reference? No LaForge in engineering reference? Edit: Does it tell you time to empty for the gas and propane? Like time reference or a countdown rather than showing the percent of your fuel? Does it always show fuel percentage? What about oil life percentage since oil isn't really consumable like fuel is?
Smart generator that can't figure out to hide fuel level reading when connected to propane. Now they did say the generator is smart, they never said the same about whoever designed it, right?
Btw battery most likely was low, should've let it run for at least an hour anyway. No one tests generator out of the box. It needs to work for a few hours, then oil change, only then use/test.
But I bet you know all that, so no idea why you did what you did.
Hi Hobo
Can I use an Ai-Power 2000 inverter generator to recharge my Delta Pro with its electrical AC cable plugged into the Delta Pro? What port do i use or do i need an adaptet?
Thanks for another great review professor hobo. By the way I'm sure you probably know this already but you are seriously nerdly 🤭 my property in Colorado is at 6800 ft. Where are you in Arizona that's 6800 ft just curious
It would cheaper to make your own battery bank (2x 100ah in series) and power it with a portable generator
Is there an adapter to use the Ecoflow Dual Fuel to charge up my Growatt Infinity 1500 that I just bought last month?
Just plug it in.
@@HOBOTECH How long will it run on a full tank of propane?
@@DaveSimcik 12.5 hours
Any idea what the LPG fuel consumption is at 1500W output? About how many pounds does it consume per hour?
I'd buy a few raffle tickets for it.
Raffles are illegal
Gross that a generator needs internet access.
It doesn't require Internet. It only needs setup the first time with your mobile an that's it.
And either wifi or bluethoot,, I’m using bluethoot.
Let me see you have to get a EcoFlow generator to charge a EcoFlow delta pro, why not just but a generator big enough to power the house and skip the whole EcoFlow system
It would probably choke at 1500 too after a few minutes. Believe me I know.
If you have already gas in the generator , how can you switch tp LPG ?
I would love to see someone present a creative solution for their battery cable thats "proprietary" and FAR too short to be safe for a generator so close to your home. I cant find anyone with any videos that openly address this issue and truly potentially fixes it.
Hi thanks for a great channel ! Do you have any info when ecoflow is releasing Delta 2 MAX Delta PRO ?
can this generator charge a delta 2 w Xtra smart battery?
also can it charge my delta 2 max?
Yes
@HOBOTECH thank you sir.
My gas only EcoFlow generator won't electric start when the battery is low, such as after months of storage.
Good review, however if I needed a dual fuel generator I'd get a traditional one. Then use that to run the loads, and maybe charge some batteries.
The point of this generator is to save up to 40% on fuel by DC to DC charging other Ecoflow products. No other generator can do that.
@@HOBOTECH While that is something, it's not been perfected yet. Why buy a generator for a purpose that kinda works? Especially one that's brand new and no service parts are available?
Call me crazy or whatever, I don't care about the CCP feefees. Either make it right or don't leave the factory should be the rule.
I understand your alliances, and understand your argument.
Without completion all brands suffer, and if they can't handle criticism then tell them to grow thicker skin, no offense intended 🤣😂🤣
What do you mean kinda works? It works just fine. I show it more than performs at elevation. The hard start I show went away after it ran. So I don't understand the criticism. If you don't like it don't get one.
@@HOBOTECH Okay, well said. Calm down, I watched the video, I don't think it's ready for prime time. Does eco flow have a state side repair center or spare parts?
It's a great design,I'll give them that.
And they came close.
I've been running generators for about as long as you have, we're pretty close in age, and you and I both know that parts or service are a critical item to have with this investment. Eco flows aren't cheap.
That said if they had parts or a USA service center or fully stocked, 3rd party service centers available then the decision to buy one, two etc would be that much easier.
I'm sure you are aware where this world is at, and Eco flow is not made stateside. C lock downs, wars, transportation/ supply chain issues and the like can and have happened. Having a brand new generator perform like it did in this video might not be a high probability, however that doesn't bode well for a new unit.
Until Eco flow has either a parts department or a USA based service center, buying into their ecosystem is off my table.
If on the other hand one can find parts in ten years then I'd buy a few.
I've got 25 year old eu2000 Honda's that run like champs. And all of their part's are available.
So if comparing apple's to apple's the Honda's win, presently.
Thanks for the conversation.
I’ve got two Delta Pro’s and the first one fought me for some time to connect to a iPhone or iPad 😡 the second unit I bought connected just fine.
After running these units hard (charging & discharging) they are great.
One tip for max charging is to only plug into a 20amp circuit and as close to the breaker as possible other wise you will get some voltage sag and not get a manny watts in.
The most I’ve gotten is 1740 watts into the Pro at a plug right below my panel (about 5’ of wire length) @ 122V unplugged.
If you need someone helping out on your projects, I would to it for a place where I can sleep in the warehouse.
I like it!
Mobile one . Valvoline . Quaker City is probably work
Hi Tom,, the screwdriver turns to either flat or Phillips.. just hold the handle and pull the metal part away to switch it.
Seems decent at most. I’ll stick with my Champions :)
So the generator guy doesn't like the smell of gas interesting?
"and you can start this by swiping" erararararrara.......nope.
I scrolled thru the ecoflow website page at your link. I used their search engine to try and find the word "warranty". I scrolled up and down the page, watched the video, no warranty info. I clicked the help button in chat, to express my concern. They wanted my name and email address, said they would get back with me in 1 to 2 working days. ANY BODY KNOW HOW LONG THE WARRANTY IS?
Answered in the video ...
I kinda wanted to see like a plain white oil bottle with only the word “OIL” on it
Propane makes 10% less power than gasoline overall
I like the electric start. And the delivery was good
I assume this can be converted to run on natural gas, yes?
Do you have the length on the DC to DC cord. I have the Delta Pro for my RV and am looking at the placement possibilities for both if I go with the "smart gen". I can't find it listed anywhere. TY - Al
5 meters
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Does this solar generator or any other have generator support mode 🤔👍
So what are the benefits you get from this vs more powerful propane generators that are half the price like the pulsar. Is it just integration with their battery systems (auto start/stop, etc)?
First, it's Yamaha engine. Second, it fully integrates with many of Ecoflows systems with auto stop start functions.
Strange that in all of the UA-cam review of this generator, the generator do not start itself with the electric start on propane... Did you figure out why or did Ecoflow provided you the solution?
Elevation might have played a part in his difficulty, and probably fact that it was less than half full and regulator. But even more likely was since the line was brand new, full of air (and hadn’t been running). Once it was running for a while the electric start then worked immediately. Generally speaking, if it hasn’t been running already on propane, you should pull the cord a few times (slowly) to prime it, then turn the system on and start by whichever method you want.
Alibaba and Solar panels that's all you need
I never heard of oil Karen's before! 😅😂
Could this run off methan?
My bet is on zero pulls electric start
your starting problems is because you didn't open up the propane all the way.
Nope. I opened all the way too made no difference.