Ranking ALL 7 Spanish Focus Trees in Hearts of Iron 4
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2023
- Today in HOI4 we will be ranking every single path Spain has to offer, not just the Nationalists and Republicans, but the Carlists, Anarchists and so on they will all be put to the test to determine which one is ultimately the best of them all.
We will evaluate everything, national spirits, potential, how hard or easy the civil war is for each tree. No stone will be left unturned.
Music used from:
A Hat in Time:
Hearts of Iron IV:
Actually used Krakow for the first time in ages with this one.
25/02/2023. - Ігри
Start making this video and I figure it'll be like 10 minutes, nope double that lol. No matter, takes as long as it takes. you know in 2022 I visited mainland Spain for the first time since 2004, stayed in Santiago de Compostela and did A Coruna on a day trip. Never would've either otherwise if not for how much I played them in hoi4, was nice.
Did you remember naval invading UK from La Coruña Port at the end of the trip?
That was a different timeline.
Hey, A Coruña's my city :D
Was there a Spanish civil War while you were there
@@lynx2 JAJAJAJJAJA un coruñés más viendo esto, viva el Depor!
I remember once trying to avoid a civil war by not doing either focus.
The 1936 election event still happened, and about a year later all 7 spawned leaving me with Madrid and the surrounding area.
Shortly afterwards the game crashed because the Nationalists tried to join the Axis via focus (for some reason the modifier which blocks them joining factions didn't get attached to them),
However Germany had done "Oppose Hitler" and so there was no Axis to join which is probably why it crashed.
I believe this was around the time Battle For The Bosporus came out so perhaps it's been patched since then.
wtf
@@jorgeigualbonilla9998 I had no idea what happened, games are just strange sometimes, after Man The Guns came out and let you set AI player focuses I would get Germany to do the Oppose Hitler focus so that Europe wouldn't get swallowed so quickly and allow other nations to do their focuses to liven things up a bit, maybe some code fired incorrectly.
@@edspace. I think somebody became the crisis and wiped out the galaxy.
@@something1600 Most likely, come to think of it I've not played HOI IV since December 2021, when I got Stellaris for Christmas.
@@edspace. I stopped playing after paragons :( it was a real shame
Paradox should really do Republican Spain justice and expand their post civil war options. They should also give the Republicans their own plane models, as it makes no sense for them to fly planes with the Nationalist markings! Also, it is weird how the Spanish socialist party belongs to the 'conservative' sub ideology of democracy, and not the socialist one...
What are "Nationalist markings"? Do you mean some colours? Because the design will be technically Spanish anyway.
@@mariano98ify I mean that the Republicans had a purple, yellow, and red roundel: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Republican_Air_Force
The nationalists had the one in game (but for both sides), that is the black cross on a white background. It is the one spain uses to this day:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviaci%C3%B3n_Nacional
@@mariano98ify they had symbols on them which were nationalist symbols
@@mariano98ifypre-war republican spain planes use the condor legion insignias
I'm starting to work on a completed rework mod for Spain. Starting with cringe ideologies popularity and adding Manuel Portela as head of goverment.
It would be nice if the republican focus tree would be centered around fighting the allies of Franco (eg. Italy and Germany) by giving it some ways to support the allies, especially France or acting as a more allies aligned Switzerland, being able to support them in a fun and involving way whilst officially staying neutral (like with spies and volunteers, something barely possible with the devastated Spanish economy after the civil war)
I think you could do that with the new economy system
Irl Franco was supported by Axis and Allies and US to give an f u to the Soviets trying to get a Western European country to be communist that is too close to the UK
The irony that the 2 “main” sides of the civil war(Republican and Nationalist) are the least interesting parts of the Spanish focus tree.
It kinda makes sense, those already have historical precedent, so PDX doesnt have as much artistic liberty to create paths for them. The rest let PDX run wild.
The thing with Global Defense Council is not that it can Core Everything, but that you get to choose what to core (once you get the needed compliance).
This means for instance that you make great gains, for instance, by taking on the USA and coring their more productive zones for some major boosts to your economy when taking on the rest of the world.
Exactly that. I was able to get the most populated states in India very early and core them by 1942 which solved the only problem I had on my way to world dominance - manpower.
@@AndresGrelan Nicely done! I've seen people do similar things with China, by invading them alongside Japan for some nice chunks of land.
@@AndresGrelanGood example! Generally defeating the US is pretty much an ultimate objective of the end game
@@pannik_lucasir early to avoid dealing with Big Papa America
I played the Falangists once and reconquering the New World was very fun.
How did you deal with the USA?
@@comandantepepperoni8104 All I got out of Canada was British Columbia but with enough micromangement and encirclements I was able to decimate their armies and take every noteworthy VP in the west. And when pushing on there was no longer worth it and their entire army was well and truly invested there I used the stolen british fleet to naval invade the eastern sea board and rush enough big VP's for them to surrender. Collabs also helped.
@@eisbergsyndrom5010 What date? I've heard that the US becomes unbeatable at cerain point
@@comandantepepperoni8104 Can't remember. 1941, I think.
@@eisbergsyndrom5010 That's actually crazy.
So, pocket and naval invade, right?
I have always noticed that the paths in Hoi4 that provide a possible manpower modifier that invalidates needing to put women in the workforce or going up to service by requirement almost by default is a better path for the simple fact having fewer and fewer maluses applied to your nations, even though they may be minor.
You've gotten a bit of an error at @15:57 saying that it costs 150 political power to core a territory. It's is true that it's 150 if you don't have any neighboring cores, but if the province neighbors one of your core territories (such as in southern France), it only costs 50 political power to core it. If it's somewhere else like in India, it means you can first core one province for 150 and then all of it's neighboring provinces for 50 each.
Apart from that, the real drawback for Anarchists I've seen is that they're non-aligned, meaning they cannot justify wars unless world tension is at 50%. I ended up in a non-historical game where world tension didn't increase to that before 1945, which was annoying and a bit odd that anarchists would follow rules that strictly....
Yeah, I think anarchism knows no borders should’ve given a -50% tension limit for wargoal justifications to counter that
True, but combined with the -1pp a day and the limited amount of pp gain they get. Is still far too expensive.
@@BubblesZest I think the limited pp gain is balanced out by the fact that you can finish the focus tree relatively quickly, omitting some focuses (like the fortification ones) and getting 1.80 pp per day with that one advisor. But yeah, biggest hurdle for me with the Anarchists is the justification limit since it makes it difficult to snipe some early conquests before WW2 takes off.
I love the carlist path just because "Crusade Against Democracy" is so mentally broken. It makes games fun and memeable to the point I just fry my brain.
But what I do Next, I win Portugal, but when im going VS with 100 africano divisions but OP african divisions, I loss
Anybody who desperately wants to core the whole world, is better off just using the state transfer tool mod.
I mean there is a mod for making anything easy. Some people want the struggle of it. I myself wouldn't have the patience, but some seem to.
Finally, A ranking i can trust
i really like playing as the anarchists, however the -20% production efficiency cap really turns me off. it is propably the worst economic malus you can have, although it doesn`t decrease naval production, which is nice. the -10% research speed is annoying aswell, although not that bad.
I discovered yesterday that you can become a monarchy as Franco, just as the carlists do (Restore the Monarchy focus), with the difference that Alphonse XIII is the only option (idk if Jaime IV can succeed Alphonse when he dies). Overall, great vid buddy, you got a new sub!
you know a seperate Alfonsoist brance would be cool
@@aguy6771 Yeah, like France does. A rework for the Alfonsoist path would be needed as Jaime IV wasn't the heir to the throne
Alphonse dies in 1940/1941 and will be replaced by Jaime yes.
nice format, waiting for same video for Soviet Union or italy
Seconded. Though knowing Bubbles it’ll be the right opposition for the soviets.
For Poland
@@HydroHemp yes, poland has 1 million paths
Amen
I think Anarchist is best just by it’s uniqueness, at least to me
L Pfp
@@FalangeRevolutionary986 says the dude who has a hate symbol as theirs
@@kiesarisunny13 Hate symbol? You mean a love symbol for God, tradition, and workers?
@@FalangeRevolutionary986 sure. what’s Falangism
@@kiesarisunny13 Since I am one myself, I'll explain it. It is a revolutionary idealogy that advocates for total authority, militarism, nationalism, and imperialism. It is Catholic and non clerical, meaning seperation of church and state, but not faith and state. It is a very workerist version of Fascism alongside being much more conservative and Catholic then Italian Fascism. Good enough?
Please, more of these rankings!!
Carlist ftw ✌️
Should be noted that the anarchist recruitable pop boost is so huge to compensate for the fact they can't have conscription, a Stalinist regime on service by requirement will have a bigger bonus than the anarchists (but they'll also have the penalties that come with that and they don't have the coring quirk, so)
Ngl I hope you do more of these like maybe rate more countries focus tree like maybe poland
Ah, the quintessential video of my favorite Spanish civil war connoisseur!
Yeah, my main complaint about the Spanish focus tree is that it all about the civil war.
My fav foucus tree is the one where you restore the Byzantine Empire or what I like to call "Waluigi wild greeek shanenigans"
You can’t actually core EVERY state in the game, just the ones that some country has cores on (you need there to be a foreign core in order to have the compliance mechanic) the only state I can think of with this issue is south Sakhalin
And alaska if us forgets to grant statehood
@@jorstar4131 there’s also still probably a few islands that have no core, like Bermuda and Kerguelen
@@pocketmarcy6990 yah exact
You are the guy who makes spain without pain
The skylander soundtrack is beautiful
The easiset thing to do with anarchist spain in regards to the political cost - buy one province that touches many others for the base 150pp, then after it cores you store up enough pp to buy all the cores around it at the same time. You can't go below 0pp, so if you spend it all on 6-8 provinces (300-400pp) you get a lot of cores for pretty much nothing.
I use this when I play anarchist by attacking china right after the civil war is done and I control all of portugals former provinces, as I have land access now to guanxi clique. You can have some insane manpower pools, resources, and factories/build slots from doing this early on guanxi.
nice format nocap
Id like to argue a case for playing maintain second republic. You skip prep and finish by 1938, you dont do expand Soviet aid and just stay democratic. You build up a full army od 9/1 divs to save france after belgium falls. Then some to help at the italian border. And then some to mop up africa. Then you invade italy, and then germany. I had loads of fun playing that way, on historical. Also managed to outdo french industry thanks to total mob, which was nice I guess. And also, you have cores on most of spain, so its easy to recover.
Then I guess you could go fight russia. Well anyway, you start from zero and build a powerful country with a good army, navy and perhaps airforce. It feels really rewarding and worth it
U just really never can go wrong with monarchist paths
The monarchy wins again
They can’t keep getting away with this!
@@skeletonjanitor clasic republican l
Ew
carlist spain has an advisor that lets you form spanish spain by 1940
10/10
I really like these videos but you should put time stamps for each entry in the video
Ive wanted to try a Carlist run for awhile now. Anyone have any tips? Im not the best at micro so any tips are appreciated
Micro for the civil war and be sure to hold the states that flip Carlist. Microing is really important since as the Carlists you end up having to fight both German and Soviet tanks. Once you get really good at it you can actually defeat the leftoid factions as the rightoids before the monarchist-fascist war starts making it much easier. Unfortunately it's all about the practice. Don't be afraid to play on slow speeds to get better at microing.
@@DrewPicklesTheDark I need to practice micro bad, i might just do a few Nationalist runs so i can just focus on the Republicans and the Anarchists
best one the anarchist one
profile picture checks out
Based anarchist?????
most stabilized anarchist country
Spanish empire gaming
Maybe, but PCE or POUM better imo
In my opinion the Francoist path is incredibly frustrating when dealing with the carlists
The falangists were quite easy tbh but I can’t manage to do the carlists
I know perfect how win civil wsr and pre civil war
It is easy to win the war as the Nationalist side bc it was easy to win the war for the Nationalist side, as you say: republican spain sabotages itself which wasn't something that only happened in game
It wasnt easy at all. Took 3 years and won only due to support from outside. The whole coup would totally fail without the transport help right away from africa.
My game is broken there's no option to crown "Ralladura de Burbuja I" king of the Spain after the war send help
amogus
Probably a DLC required or yes it is broke
I've tried setting the AI to do Carlist route and the anarchist route, but the AI always fails miserably, either resulting in Portugal taking over, or the falangists or republicans winning.
W Falangists
@@FalangeRevolutionary986 ew
@@trafichat Ew what? Falange is the best faction.
Carlist Spain has the best colour in the game
gigachad carlist enjoyer vs gdc fan
Carlism = 🤮
I wish that they made the Spanish empire a formable nation. That way we get cores on central, north and South America.
My favorite Is the anarchist
my main question is how to build the economy after the civil war
Time to launch the Crusade.
I like that the right wing part is on the left side and the left wing part is on the right side
I really wanted to win the civil war as Republican Spain and eventually join the effort and invade Vichy France to create another front from Iberia for the Allies to get some relief from
After a million tries, I finally won the damn war, only to realize I genuinely can’t fucking do ANYTHING for years, and when I’m finally in a position to join the war, France is already liberated. I played 99% of my game in the first year lol
Republican Spain needs a buff, you're stuck with the choice of either being a soviet puppet or have horrible industry for the rest of the game, they should have something like the nationalists where you can have land in Africa in exchange for joining their side.
Not only you have horrible industry but your whole path ends up suddenly and you have nothing to do
What mod is this??
Vanilla.
how does every hoi-youtuber has the same voice?
JESUS CHRIST. I never played as Carlists (cause fuck monarchy) but that shit is insane, bonuses from that one spirit are basically equivalent to a whole doctrine group, like, that's not even an exaggeration, it basically gives you the whole Mass-Assault-Right doctrine, minus tactics ofc, and army-wide stat bonuses on top of it.
Paradox really needs to rework the carlist spain tree basically there should be an option to puppet former south american countries that were colonized by the spanish and established hispanic america and also basically imo it's a bit small then the full on fascist tree
Anarchist ftw
Spain deserves a re-work, most of it feels like it was done on a hurry
Ya but I would rather have the Commenwealth nations, Germany, Britain, and the US reworked :(
Are you kidding me? The Spanish one is one of the extensive focuses. If so only Republican Spain be democratic or socialist need some content.
@@yoshihammerbro435 japan too
@@mariano98ify Republican trees end in 1941 so yeah there's something wrong, and de facto after civil cuz there's nothing to do excluding the anarchists.
You know? I think "core any place in the world" can be quite op: conquer the weakest chinese country and voilá, you get 20-30 million recruitable pop! XD
Spin
No resin, no fuel, no factories, destruction after cw - good luck
It’s irrelevant because the gameplay after the civil war is horrible. Complete waste of time