Ngl, I feel like the Spanish Democratic path should've had a focus similar to one in the francoist Tree, where nationalist Spain demands control over French North Africa, it could be changed around to like be a "protection for Morocco" or something where you make a deal with France and the Allies to Join them in return for getting control over North Africa For another Worst democracy, one of the most pointless ones I'd say is Canada independent, since you just have a few naval bounus, screwing the Uk for having America in the allies, and not being able to get control over Newfoundland.
I agree with you mostly. For a lot of democracies, the issue that makes them unfun is that while the game bars you from military aggression, it usually gives you nothing in exchange. You should be able to politic and negotiate your way into new deals and pacts. At best, you’ll get a couple focuses for joining the allies and maybe politely asking for land and not getting to fight for it if they say no. They should do something for democracies like the HRE in EU4. You’re heavily restricted in fighting wars in it, but can use diplomacy, strategy and manipulation to worm your way into becoming the emperor, and even making everyone your puppet. It’s a different playstyle, but it’s unique and can be pretty fun. Maybe as a democracy you get a whole new diplomacy system where you can pressure other nations to sign treaties and agreements that can target key issues, like one nation giving back a core in exchange for giving them factories for X years, or working together on a coup against a third nation.
@@althereq3656you can just set justification to free in the pre game settings. That way no ideology has any world tension restrictions on justifying wargoals
"It wasn't looking really good, at some points I was just losing all of the south, but it should be over very soon" *"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make"* - Mountain General, probably
I always thought democracies should be able to declare war on at least fascist and communist countries under the excuse of liberation. Perhaps even non-aligned if their sub-ideology is despotic or oligarchic.
"Also it's very democratic of us to ban other parties" Say what you want, but contrary to what the media says, we don't ban other parties. Within the Supreme People's Assembly besides the Workers' Party, there are also the Social Democratic Party, Chondoist Chongu Party (followers of Chondoism which is a Korean pantheistic religion), Chongryon representatives (for the interests of Zainichi Koreans in Japan), as well as two Independents. In China's National People's Congress besides the CCP, there are also the Jiusan Society, China Association for Promoting Democracy, China Democratic League, Taiwan Democratic Self-Government League, Revolutionary Committee of the Chinese Kuomintang, Chinese Peasants' and Workers' Democratic Party, China National Democratic Construction Association, and the China Zhi Gong Party (for the interests of Overseas Chinese)
I am so glad Stellaris has the Democratic Crusaders option, and wars of liberation. Makes it somewhat enjoyable to play some form of democratic. Otto Skorzeny as a Republican Spanish spy? Was not expecting that. I hope you have no pain in Spain!
The Spanish Civil War is no joke the worst war in the game, the first few weeks are fun, but if you haven't basically won by that point BOY OH BOY IS IT GONNA BE FUN I love it when I get arbitrary modifiers that tell me "you won't push unless you go out of your way to push a button, but it will only work for a few days in one state" because historically the war lasted 3 years and the game couldn't do it without the worst bandaid in the history of the game (especially when this war is hardcoded so that encirclements can't cause the enemy divisions to starve, truly magnificent game design, I love when major mechanics get arbitrarily ignored like) It does not improve the gameplay, it just makes for a piss poor experience and I am sure that more people played Spain before the update than after
@@sephikong8323 I have played as Communist Ukraine once and declared war on Nationalist Spain, sent about 50 divisions to Republican Spain and from there crushed the nationalists in two weeks.
honestly I feel Rep Spain can be a cool playstyle but the focus tree kills it. You have the choice of either becoming a Soviet puppet or having a horrible industry for the rest of the game, if you go with the independence war you lose the soviet aid one of the few pros of going that path to begin with, every other focus is just better than Rep Spain's branch. The anarchists can core every state in the game, the Carlist's get buffs that give them the power of god on their side, Franco makes the civil war easier, join the allies and get steal some of France's land, and build industry. Multiplayer Stalinist spain is actually pretty good because the soviet player can buff spain with soviet aid, and in single player the independence war is pretty easy. The Spanish directory you gain free south American puppets and get a some easy wargoals.
Yeah, democracies in sp can be pretty boring depending on certain things (unless you just want to play against germany.) but in mp I always try and go a democratic minor, because gosh dang it, someone has to lest the world fall to literal chaos! Democracies are required to jeep balance to a non-hist game, but nooo, everyone wants to go fascist because that’s apparently the only “fun” way to play..
in Kaiserreich you could prevent the civil war from happening at all and I think that is good game design rewarding game knowledge with not having to fight the same war for the 20th time
If I see it right,it seems that you successfully prevented future conflict between Russia and Ukraine over Crimea... by taking it yourself, nice. Crimea is Spain!👌
Why close every pocket? On capitulation you get half their gear, when you encircle you get nothing unless you have maintenance companies. Because Paradox.
General got a question for you How did Communist Yugoslavia annex Bulgaria? Did you play with historical focuses off? Did you have player led peace conferences on?
My favourite meta focus is german puppet as czechoslovakia. Btw good video and don't forget to give transylvania to Hungaria xd (I'm proud of u giving austria to hungary 🤝 -Your Hungarian Ambassador)
Hello. Road to 56 ➡️ Game rules ➡️ Türkiye focus tree ➡️ normal focus tree 🔁 road to 56 focus tree ➡️ go to the fashist and complete all fashist focuss please.
Favourite Democratic paths for me 1. Spain ( since the video is about it, but its pretty straight forward: >Civil War >Rebuild >Germany 2. Interventionist USA: 100% war support just by saying "Italy and Germany bad" 3. Japan: free territories just by being the paragon of anime power of friendship 4. Germany: get fucked Soviets, and good day Eastern Europe 5. Churchill's UK: same as USA, but its the UK flavour 6. I still wish that PDX did democratic Russia in a proper way since they have Rodzaevesky, and tsarist Russia somehow
What other democratic nations do you love?
None :troll:
Yugoslavia
Usa
Democratic British Malaya, fun and historical, truss me, I'm an Engineer
Mexico
“Because Morocco” should be another shirt. Thanks for reminding me why I don’t play as Democracies in Hoi4.
I love my Conques- i mean Vacation in Morocco ;)
I mean Democratic USA is pretty darn fun
UK is less so but there is a fair amount of enjoyment in forming the imperial federation
W Morocco L spain
Average hoi4 player….
Agreed
Ngl, I feel like the Spanish Democratic path should've had a focus similar to one in the francoist Tree, where nationalist Spain demands control over French North Africa, it could be changed around to like be a "protection for Morocco" or something where you make a deal with France and the Allies to Join them in return for getting control over North Africa
For another Worst democracy, one of the most pointless ones I'd say is Canada independent, since you just have a few naval bounus, screwing the Uk for having America in the allies, and not being able to get control over Newfoundland.
Independent New Zealand is even worse
@@alwarado Honestly all the Commonwealth ones are awful
@@User262-x6z no bruh, look at their focus tree, it's more pleasant to play it with a generic focus tree
@@User262-x6z exactly, especially that you have debuffs that make it similar to the manpower of an average country!
"Why are you declaring war on Vichy France?"
"Because Morocco"
"But you're still recovering from your brutal civil war-"
*"DID I STUTTER?"*
-"So, why did you kill him?"
-"Morocco"
Remember kids democratic spanish Morocco is always more important
I agree with you mostly. For a lot of democracies, the issue that makes them unfun is that while the game bars you from military aggression, it usually gives you nothing in exchange. You should be able to politic and negotiate your way into new deals and pacts. At best, you’ll get a couple focuses for joining the allies and maybe politely asking for land and not getting to fight for it if they say no. They should do something for democracies like the HRE in EU4. You’re heavily restricted in fighting wars in it, but can use diplomacy, strategy and manipulation to worm your way into becoming the emperor, and even making everyone your puppet. It’s a different playstyle, but it’s unique and can be pretty fun. Maybe as a democracy you get a whole new diplomacy system where you can pressure other nations to sign treaties and agreements that can target key issues, like one nation giving back a core in exchange for giving them factories for X years, or working together on a coup against a third nation.
Sounds too fun. Come up with something boring and infuriating and paradox might copy it and charge you 9.99 for it.
I Wish there was a mod which allowed democracies tò justify
@@althereq3656 Best you can do is the allow_diplo cheat.
@@althereq3656you can just set justification to free in the pre game settings. That way no ideology has any world tension restrictions on justifying wargoals
@@althereq3656you can as democratic Italy if you do rome focus or italian iretism
"It wasn't looking really good, at some points I was just losing all of the south, but it should be over very soon"
*"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make"* - Mountain General, probably
Lol, does not expected Kazan gangs meme at 9:29. Cheers from Kazan
3:52 Mountain General's "divide and conquer" is done by dividing his own country
I always thought democracies should be able to declare war on at least fascist and communist countries under the excuse of liberation. Perhaps even non-aligned if their sub-ideology is despotic or oligarchic.
"Also it's very democratic of us to ban other parties" Say what you want, but contrary to what the media says, we don't ban other parties. Within the Supreme People's Assembly besides the Workers' Party, there are also the Social Democratic Party, Chondoist Chongu Party (followers of Chondoism which is a Korean pantheistic religion), Chongryon representatives (for the interests of Zainichi Koreans in Japan), as well as two Independents. In China's National People's Congress besides the CCP, there are also the Jiusan Society, China Association for Promoting Democracy, China Democratic League, Taiwan Democratic Self-Government League, Revolutionary Committee of the Chinese Kuomintang, Chinese Peasants' and Workers' Democratic Party, China National Democratic Construction Association, and the China Zhi Gong Party (for the interests of Overseas Chinese)
Best Korea does it again.
As a Spanish citizen myself,Spain is Pain
I am so glad Stellaris has the Democratic Crusaders option, and wars of liberation. Makes it somewhat enjoyable to play some form of democratic. Otto Skorzeny as a Republican Spanish spy? Was not expecting that.
I hope you have no pain in Spain!
The man worked for the Jews IRL, why are you surprised he is in Spain
par for the course for the man
I actually found Democratic Spain quite enjoyable when it’s trying to break free from the Soviet Union.
You know you are a normal person when:You play carlist fascist or anarchist spain
you know you are an insane person if you:Play a democratic spain
What about Francoist, Stallinist, and Independent Communist Spain?
@@12D_D21 It means you are a boring person
Anarchist is never normal
@@12D_D21 they don't exist
IT is sad that people Don't usually play Spain bcs of civil war and after u need to wait until u recover :(
Bruh I finish civil war in middle 1937 and I start conquering world by 1939
The Spanish Civil War is no joke the worst war in the game, the first few weeks are fun, but if you haven't basically won by that point BOY OH BOY IS IT GONNA BE FUN
I love it when I get arbitrary modifiers that tell me "you won't push unless you go out of your way to push a button, but it will only work for a few days in one state" because historically the war lasted 3 years and the game couldn't do it without the worst bandaid in the history of the game (especially when this war is hardcoded so that encirclements can't cause the enemy divisions to starve, truly magnificent game design, I love when major mechanics get arbitrarily ignored like)
It does not improve the gameplay, it just makes for a piss poor experience and I am sure that more people played Spain before the update than after
Just go Anarchist and core China lmao
@@sephikong8323 I have played as Communist Ukraine once and declared war on Nationalist Spain, sent about 50 divisions to Republican Spain and from there crushed the nationalists in two weeks.
civil war mechanic with those debuffs is just boring, sure it is unique but it's waaay to slow if you play normaly or for the first time
honestly I feel Rep Spain can be a cool playstyle but the focus tree kills it. You have the choice of either becoming a Soviet puppet or having a horrible industry for the rest of the game, if you go with the independence war you lose the soviet aid one of the few pros of going that path to begin with, every other focus is just better than Rep Spain's branch.
The anarchists can core every state in the game, the Carlist's get buffs that give them the power of god on their side, Franco makes the civil war easier, join the allies and get steal some of France's land, and build industry. Multiplayer Stalinist spain is actually pretty good because the soviet player can buff spain with soviet aid, and in single player the independence war is pretty easy. The Spanish directory you gain free south American puppets and get a some easy wargoals.
For me it could be a fun nation to play if you want small run, of winning the civil war and then ending the game there.
Hearing the obi wan quote in a Slavic accent is hilarious to me for some reason
Glad to see that you started uploading more often again. I hope it will stay that way. Great video Slovak gora man.
Me too man I hope too
The best paths for spain are the anarchist and carlist ones
ОНИ ДЕРЖАЛИ В СТРАХЕ КАЗАНЬ 4 ГОДА
Worst Democratic HOI4 Nation?
2 words
Independent Zealand
The spanish republic just has this great vibe, wish theyd made it better
Yeah, democracies in sp can be pretty boring depending on certain things (unless you just want to play against germany.) but in mp I always try and go a democratic minor, because gosh dang it, someone has to lest the world fall to literal chaos! Democracies are required to jeep balance to a non-hist game, but nooo, everyone wants to go fascist because that’s apparently the only “fun” way to play..
Ey man, spanish sub for a while now, glad you chose Spain for your vacation I hope you enjoy it🤙
I love Kazan part 🤐
I appreciate very much that there is no border gore after the final conference
Greece, the US, Japan, France (Little entente) and Britain have pretty good democratic paths
in Kaiserreich you could prevent the civil war from happening at all and I think that is good game design
rewarding game knowledge with not having to fight the same war for the 20th time
Based general is back at it with a reliable upload schedule!to bad im at the gym and cant watch the video
While this doesn’t seem like the most thrilling play-through, it’s still interesting.
If I see it right,it seems that you successfully prevented future conflict between Russia and Ukraine over Crimea... by taking it yourself, nice. Crimea is Spain!👌
Daily reminder Odessa was founded by a spaniard
2:51 "Loveable Clusterfuck" was my nickname in prison.
I haven’t slept all night so this is a great way to get up for the day.
I actually think democratic spain is more enjoyable when you become a soviet puppet, i had a lot of fun doing that campaign
The king is back
I am glad you are back! I just started college today, and your suffering gives me determination!
"rip bozo, you wont be missed". This is why I watch mountain general
4:45 mountain general conquering My house, epic
Blessed is the day our general uploads
most spanish paths actually are bad besides carlist and anarchist
Keep up the videos, love your vids
Why close every pocket? On capitulation you get half their gear, when you encircle you get nothing unless you have maintenance companies. Because Paradox.
Its about those casualities, I want to see big numbers in my war tab
Democracy? More like driving me democrazy.
The way you pronounce Morocco is so satisfying. That's how I'm pronouncing ot from now on.
When Alex has monarchies
Islovak has democracies
Wow thanks for uploading on my birthday
Happy bday
I appreciate that you do chapters for your videos.
Np bro
Daamn, maan, i am from Kazan, thx for capitulating my hometown, comrade General
Good Video man greetings from czech republic!
Nice video, mountain гeneral
Nice grammar @L. named comrade
@@donpablitojuarez4640 Am just from east Europe, and I dont speak English really good
And Г, г means g în russian lang.
@@l.namedcomrade6568 Then it’s understandable, have a good day sir
@@donpablitojuarez4640 Thank you sir
The funni Slovak man has brought us another video, praise be
General got a question for you
How did Communist Yugoslavia annex Bulgaria? Did you play with historical focuses off?
Did you have player led peace conferences on?
Player led, I like nice/interesting borders
*reads title*
Slovak man has been asleep since 1918 I guess
Challenge: 1939 Slovakia but you have to turn democratic and defeat Germany
My favourite meta focus is german puppet as czechoslovakia. Btw good video and don't forget to give transylvania to Hungaria xd (I'm proud of u giving austria to hungary
🤝 -Your Hungarian Ambassador)
You're an awesome Hoi4 player!
Thanks
Mountain general is the greatest hoi4 youtuber
Play as spanish carlist
when we have been waiting for him for a long time, he has come back
I love it when you upload
YAY Mountain General posted , today is a Happy day
You should try playing the mod "On the Clounds of Heaven: Rise of the Vatican", it's very fun!
yes
Ah, the great Spanish Democratic Sitskrieg
Those democraries really can be terrible!
As a galician I feel proud to see Galicia as the last bastion of the Nationalists
ok pero no te folles a ninguna vaca que te encuentres por ahí 🙏
I think that USA and uk has a great democratic focus tree than othera
France got Lombardy in the peace deal? that's surprising
GOOD STUFF UPLOAD MORE I DEMAND!
Funny thing, I have been playing democratic Spain in hoi4 recently
Incredible
I have two questions:
Why Slovaks have an accent so similar to that of Italians?
Why does this channel only have 105.000 subs?
P.D.: I am Spanish
Italian brudas, Slovakia is da 4th Rome!
And UA-cam is just a grind man, I took it more chill this Summer
Well, surely not the best nation but the gameplay was nice, good video
i love ur english accent (and obv ur gamplays :D) greetings to słowacja from poland
If you dont get any focus on spain civil war never happend:D
Yes, I see that "slavic accent"!
I understand you so perfect!
Kazan has been mentioned, uraaaaa.
Communist spain was the first thing I tried to do when I got the game
It did not go well
Mountain General, Can you play TNO as Novorsobirsk ? the Russian Federation visily Path. I would really like you Making this video
I love Spain with A!
Man i frickin love your post-war borders
Democracies seem boring in hoi4 you make no land in a long time.
My favourite and most based hoi4 content creator
Can you make video about Germany opposes Austrian painter and switch sides with commands
Man why do I have to be at school rn
Someone make this man a Democratic Hispanic Union Mod right now!
Expands Equatorial Guinea.
Great Success!!!
I have a 78 in my chemistry class but 560 hours on HOI4
every democracy is the worst one
Some have better trees
Wait but this is Russian meme with kazan. Now I have a lot of questions
Top worst moments of anime: N°1. Second Republic win civil war :(
Hello.
Road to 56 ➡️ Game rules ➡️ Türkiye focus tree ➡️ normal focus tree 🔁 road to 56 focus tree ➡️ go to the fashist and complete all fashist focuss please.
Сводка из криминальной России... прекрасно...
Favourite Democratic paths for me
1. Spain ( since the video is about it, but its pretty straight forward: >Civil War >Rebuild >Germany
2. Interventionist USA: 100% war support just by saying "Italy and Germany bad"
3. Japan: free territories just by being the paragon of anime power of friendship
4. Germany: get fucked Soviets, and good day Eastern Europe
5. Churchill's UK: same as USA, but its the UK flavour
6. I still wish that PDX did democratic Russia in a proper way since they have Rodzaevesky, and tsarist Russia somehow
Democratic Nepal is lit
when Morocco?
Idk why but when I clicked on this videos I thought it was an ISP vid then I was met with a slavic man
this looks fun tho