What Does Shogun Japan Actually Allow You to Do? - Hoi4

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
  • Today in Japan, following a successful coup by the Young Officers the country will be transformed back into a Shogunate, which will choose to follow the Northern Strike doctrine. The Land of the Rising Sun must put itself into position to be capable of taking on the Soviet bear.
    Along the way new alliances will be found, old grievances will come to end as new friendships are founded. But will it be enough, will the modern Shogunate ready for when duty calls.
    Music used from:
    A Hat in Time [2017]
    Team Fortress [2007]
    Hearts of Iron IV [2016]
    02-09-23.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 77

  • @BubblesZest
    @BubblesZest  Рік тому +35

    I heard something about this path being alright in mp, so I decided to see what it's like in sp. Two different gamemods I know, so let's say your results may vary.
    Anyway, this was another video where it's production was a rollercoaster. But in the end, it's here. So I can rest easy with that.

  • @koperekhabsburdzki43
    @koperekhabsburdzki43 Рік тому +240

    Ah yes, my favorite "Shogunate" with emperor as head of Govarment

    • @animeXcaso
      @animeXcaso Рік тому +28

      Japan needs some rework

    • @b0tty18
      @b0tty18 Рік тому +39

      I mean even with historical wasn’t Tojo running the country with the Emperor as figurehead or something

    • @Shiny49GER
      @Shiny49GER Рік тому +39

      @@thebuttonman9901 Yeah, but in the Shogunate Era, the Emperor was more like a powerless figurehead. Would be cool if "Modern Shogunate" gives you a Shogun as leader and Hirohito as national modifier for stability (+60%) like the democratic path does.

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому

      There’s some mods that rework that path and let’s you put the Tokugawa family back in charge

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому +2

      @@thebuttonman9901more like emperor under shogun

  • @colBoh
    @colBoh Рік тому +105

    Here's an interesting idea: Divide the Shogunate and Emperor Showa focuses into their own separate sub-branches. Maybe "Modern Shogunate" could be similar to Ethiopia's "Federal Empire" focus, dividing Japan into puppet states that develop on their own faster than they would united, and "Emperor Showa" simply gives Hirohito new traits for extra PP, extra daily Compliance gain, or to remove the debuffs from the Army/Navy balancing mechanic.

    • @bltsevdallarfanclub641
      @bltsevdallarfanclub641 Рік тому +14

      Ngl dope idea. The only thing that could go worse is dockyard output. Because you gave your dockyards to puppets it would be impossible to make a navy to rival USA. If you code so it does not give dockyards to puppets it could be awsome.

    • @muhteremhayalett
      @muhteremhayalett Місяць тому

      @@bltsevdallarfanclub641 Maybe special puppet type for Japanese Shogunate? You can't use their factories (or maybe half of them) but you can use their dockyards manually. When a war happens, which will only be triggered by a major nation declares war on us, we can use their armies without them commanding.

  • @danielgloyd4529
    @danielgloyd4529 Рік тому +78

    You ignored the main benefit of going this path. Getting the wargoal on China without the Marco polo debufs. You can steamroll Mao and China. Then turn your focus on the Soviets. They will still have tons of debufs. Mongolia and Tanu Tuva will have supply depots so you connect it to your rail road and then push to cut the 1 main soviet railroad and all there troops in the western half will be on low supply. You can mop up that whole side and just push along the railway until you get to Stalingrad.

    • @BubblesZest
      @BubblesZest  Рік тому +49

      Fair enough, didn't think of the Marco Polo stuff. Tho those provocation wargoals can appear with any path so they aren't a benefit unique to this tree.

    • @seanm241
      @seanm241 Рік тому +11

      Fighting in Siberia is still fighting in Siberia

    • @SmashingCapital
      @SmashingCapital Рік тому +5

      Yeah but the chinese united front doesnt form

  • @aidenbooksmith2351
    @aidenbooksmith2351 Рік тому +67

    I feel like each nation should have a unique bit, and Japan having a free Total Mobilization is definitely important, and not even enough to make Japan stand out among majors. If you factor in bicycle battalions, sure.

    • @austria-hungary7680
      @austria-hungary7680 10 місяців тому +1

      Japanese focus "The Zero" allows you to produce the plane without it being researched.

  • @Aviationlord7742
    @Aviationlord7742 Рік тому +44

    “Mine furhur, Warsaw has fallen!”
    “excellent was it our tanks that took it?”
    “Ah actually…..”
    Somewhere in Berlin 1939

  • @michaelmutranowski123
    @michaelmutranowski123 Рік тому +18

    the way to fix this branch is to lock it behind Japan's Inter-Service Rivalry decisions. The Imperial Army wanted to attack the USSR while the Imperial Navy wanted to attack the USA and European possession in Southeast Asia so picking the Prioritize Steel For Guns Decision should send you down this branch. This branch should have big buffs for the Army while having massive debuffs for the Navy and should lead to the Navy starting a civil war if you start loosing against the USSR or don't beat the USSR in a certain amount of time. There should also be an option to peace-out with the USSR if you take specific provinces and hold them for a set amount of time. Or, you should switch over to this branch if you win the Test The Soviets Decision border conflict.

  • @MaxHammerleaf
    @MaxHammerleaf Рік тому +9

    Japan: Occupies a large part of China.
    Zest: Is surprised China isn't happy.

    • @BubblesZest
      @BubblesZest  Рік тому +4

      I mean atleast you understood the joke, so I must be making progress.

    • @shashwatsinha2704
      @shashwatsinha2704 11 місяців тому

      Manchuria is not Han Chinese

    • @maozedong69420
      @maozedong69420 5 місяців тому

      ​@@shashwatsinha2704And Pakistan isn't Indian

    • @thatonedudenextdoor7840
      @thatonedudenextdoor7840 2 місяці тому

      ​@@shashwatsinha2704 Not Han Chinese but Manchu Chinese. Its still Chinese 😊

    • @shashwatsinha2704
      @shashwatsinha2704 2 місяці тому

      @@thatonedudenextdoor7840 Well, thanks to the Chinese, Manchu language and culture is dead.

  • @I_Hate_YouTube.
    @I_Hate_YouTube. Рік тому +10

    For some reason ahistorical japan always does the shogunate.

    • @yoshihammerbro435
      @yoshihammerbro435 Рік тому +3

      In my manchuria achievement run they went communist.

    • @Shiny49GER
      @Shiny49GER Рік тому +5

      They sometimes also go democratic, but when they go democratic, most of the time they lose against fascist Japan in the civil war or the civial war takes until like 1944.

  • @theCharmoftheSeer
    @theCharmoftheSeer Рік тому +9

    I usually pick this path over the historical one. It gives you 3 things you want more of as Japan, PP, research and civs. You still get China and you can get a good piece of the ussr (best I've done is as far west as the line Astrakhan/Kaukasus) before going to war with allies. The only downside is not getting french indochina.

  • @dystop_
    @dystop_ Рік тому +8

    I wasn't aware of the declare war decision for shogun Japan but unless they've patched it you should also be able to use the coordinated strike mission to get around the NAPs

  • @Das_war_Kenny
    @Das_war_Kenny Рік тому +6

    The japanese focustree needs a rework just like italy got. with balance of power system between Navy and Army. This system would be also nice in the german tree, between SS and Wehrmacht.

    • @maozedong69420
      @maozedong69420 5 місяців тому +5

      Hoi4 player when their parent commit domestic abuse (it just like Hoi4 balance of power between their dad and mom)

  • @DarthFhenix55
    @DarthFhenix55 Рік тому +9

    Honestly, all the Japanese paths except communism are fun in a way. But they really need more focuses.

  • @romulusnuma116
    @romulusnuma116 Рік тому +17

    So much of this path is so weird like how you don't get a Shogun or that you don't go after China and instead Russia

    • @Shiny49GER
      @Shiny49GER Рік тому

      But won't come China after Japan anyways because China as well as Communist China get a "go to war with Japan" focus which the AI will do anyways?

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому +8

      Yea especially since Hideyoshi’s dream was to conquer China and become the new heavenly emperor. Maybe a larpy japan-China empire formable? We already have Byzantines and Rome why not a cursed Sino-Japanese empire lol

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 Рік тому +3

      ​@sto1238 that would be too powerful. You'd have all the benefits of being china, whilst also having the japanese military and research slots and wouldn't face any resistance.

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому +7

      @@mappingshaman5280 yea that’s kind of the point lol

  • @yaldabraxas
    @yaldabraxas Рік тому +3

    The only good thing about the japanese focuses is getting a Zero production variant: you get a free (well, you exchange a lot of time for it) Improved Small Carrier Airframe with tier-3 engine. It's 1940-s tech that you can get really early. Also you can easily convert it to CAS, lol.

  • @Teal182
    @Teal182 Рік тому +4

    10:37 honestly its pretty easy, as belgium i once capped both france and the uk without using paratroopers for france (i didnt set them up correctly, i did paradrop britain tho) before germany capped poland

  • @pc_suffering6941
    @pc_suffering6941 Рік тому +2

    It makes no f-ing sense not just because of the Shogunate being led by an emperor, but also because Kodoha didn't like the idea of Shogunate AND were much, much more Nazi than Toseiha.

  • @krasnamerah1926
    @krasnamerah1926 Рік тому +54

    The thing about Militarist Japan easily having Total Mob and Spiritual Mob really reflects IRL Japan.
    Should've added a Shogun tho', Sadao Araki would suffice. I like Showa Restoration path more.

    • @AdmiraHax
      @AdmiraHax Рік тому +9

      Yeah, Araki as the leader of the Kodoha faction would be the perfect choice, even though he clearly wanted power for the Emperor, not himself.

    • @krasnamerah1926
      @krasnamerah1926 Рік тому +11

      ​@@AdmiraHax, Hagakure is a real good mod to properly represent Imperial Japan, IMO. They even have several Shogun options depending on which part of the military who are dominating.

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Рік тому +8

      I just want a Tokugawa larp path with modern samurai lol

    • @maozedong69420
      @maozedong69420 5 місяців тому

      The dude who wrote JoJo?

    • @vault6242
      @vault6242 4 місяці тому

      ​@@maozedong69420He's been around for a long time, drinking blood has its benefits!

  • @FogoPQ
    @FogoPQ Рік тому +4

    I think they should remake the Japanese focus tree

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss Рік тому +1

    Japan could really do with the Balance of Power mechanics, since the Army and Navy had a serious rivalry.

  • @christiaanstrydom2051
    @christiaanstrydom2051 4 місяці тому

    I played this path recently. Used the provocation to invade China without marco debuffs which meant I was done by late 38. Only then joined the axis so all my troops and navy were in position to invade UK as soon as Danzig or War fires. Dealt with the allies. Invaded the Soviets was pretty easy. Waited around for US to declare war since I can invade from Canada but it was mid 42 and they still hadn't declared so I called it there.
    Although I share the sentiment that this path really needs to be expanded.
    The entire Japanese focus tree needs a rework in my opinion. After By Blood Alone they now have the worst focus tree of the major powers in my opinion.

  • @holyflink3764
    @holyflink3764 Рік тому +2

    I believe modern shogon focus changes militerism national spirit

  • @disasterratio1388
    @disasterratio1388 Рік тому +3

    Could you try to make a video where you do the russian focus tree to become a puppet of japan and beat them? Like a war for Independence challenge

  • @erwinrommel2972
    @erwinrommel2972 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a Italian guide. Love these videos

  • @lukas54cz71
    @lukas54cz71 10 місяців тому

    I understand Showa Restoration, Hirohito was pacifist, that is why the war support debuff.

  • @Spiterman488
    @Spiterman488 Рік тому

    Please rank all the french paths next

  • @hajden123player
    @hajden123player Рік тому

    Shogun japan mor like shotgun japan

  • @7rashbag785
    @7rashbag785 Рік тому +1

    can you rank every french path?

  • @avrgbritishguy
    @avrgbritishguy 2 місяці тому

    Yoooo I was the exactly 1000th person to like the video

  • @leosharman8630
    @leosharman8630 9 місяців тому

    have you stopped making videos? I hope not.

  • @jackgamz4512
    @jackgamz4512 Рік тому

    japan focus tree needs a rework
    uk whats the point: decolinization if you are not going communist
    poland whats the point: fascist poland and doing the beck-Ribbentrop pact and for communist poland, surrendering the east and being a puppet of russia

  • @tagus100
    @tagus100 Рік тому

    You sound so zesty when you say ‘zest’

  • @BlackManLover
    @BlackManLover Рік тому

    Play as yugoslavia😊

  • @xendos3446
    @xendos3446 Рік тому

    Why do I hear tf2 music?😭

  • @rjagad
    @rjagad Рік тому +2

    First.

  • @royale7620
    @royale7620 Рік тому +6

    Too bad the Showa path gives you a new country name plus new color plus flag 😢.

  • @gregorgerzson1767
    @gregorgerzson1767 Рік тому +2

    So, you smashed the whole Allies in 1939, but the Leauge of Nation ended with Stalin attacked Finnland :DDD

  • @tenanaciouz
    @tenanaciouz 9 місяців тому

    the japanese tree is in desperate need of a rework. It's the most poorly aged major now that italy was reworked