These are selling brand new for $1700 now, because they are odd ball, 8 string tremelo is like a unicorn, i snagged one, i like it better than my other guitars, sad that dean got all messed up, would have been cool to see more variations
Yep, Dean stopped making them but they did just put out a new V. They aren’t gone yet so maybe they’ll come back. As for the 8 string multi scale trem you can buy as many as you want from Kahler right now. You could even get 9 or 10 string regular or multi scale if you want.
That is so f*cking sick! Gary is freaking awesome! I don't really play the style of music that would facilitate a guitar like that but I'm willing to make changes in my life🤣Are those Kahler 8 string trems available to buy? I have a custom guitar shop and would love to build a guitar around one of those!
Gary Kahler is so awesome that you can get a 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and even 10 string guitar bridge from Kahler International. Flat mount or stud mount, regular or multi scale! And that’s not including bass!
Its amazing, I bet that Gary Kahler's innovations are going to be the mainstay of future designs and innovations in guitar whammy. God Bless both him (and floyd rose as well)
@@REXYLAB ive never played a multiscale or an eight string. It looks like a fun machine though. I don't know if i would like an eight but i really wanna try a multi!
@@stevenpipes1555 the first multi I ever tried was a Dingwall. I was worried that it would be difficult to play but it wasn’t. That wasn’t the case with the first time I played an instrument with an extra string. Once again a bass, 5 strings and my hands were confused for about a week! I think this might be why that first Ibanez 7 string failed so badly. At any rate I encourage you to definitely check out multi scales because they are really great! Extra strings are fantastic as well, but you might need to give yourself time to adjust. Almost every I know has it down in a week.
I'm a metalhead but 7, 8, 9 string multi scaled guitars are definitely not my thing. The Kahler trem is a very impressive piece of engineering, though!
They make them for 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 string guitars in regular or multi scale. Also stud mount or flat mount in bright chrome, black krome, or gold. You know, should you ever need one. Oh, one more thing… you can also easily lock it to make it fixed. Crap, one other thing, you can change the rollers from brass to steel or Teflon glass also.
The Kahler trem is impressive, but maybe you didnt know, multiscale guitars can be made which use standard, straight bridge hardware. This involves calculating the fret fan so that the parallel fret is positioned at a hypothetical position like 1000 or something. The fan itself ends up more pronounsed in the lower positions of the fretboard.
@@TempleGuitars It can be extreme or subtle. For instance, if the scale length difference between the lowest and highest string is half an inch, then it's barely noticeable. If you look at pictures of some Strandberg guitars with fanned fretboards you'll see what I mean. Even larger scale length differences in this calculations don't make the guitar "wrist breaking", it's simply that the fret fan doesn't resolve on the fretboard. A guitar that taxes the wrist has more to do with an extreme scale length, or a player who has smaller hands.
@@peachmelba1000 I own a Strandberg and the bridge is every bit as fanned as the neck. Can you show me an example of a standard bridge being used for a multi scale guitar… that actually intonates? Until I see it I have a hard time believing it.
@@REXYLAB I apologize, I got my guitar brands mixed up. It's Ormsby guitars. Unfortunately if I post a link in a comment it'll get auto deleted, but look up Ormsby Genesis multiscale to see what I'm talking about. Also, I've built a guitar in this fashion and it's intonates perfectly well.
@@peachmelba1000 it didn’t take long to see how it works with the Ormsby and you are correct. However, this would not work with the Dean exile line. If you look closely the Ormsby is designed to have the most extreme part of the fan close to the nut. It’s a little fanned at the 24th fret but not much. With the Dean it’s kind of a “half fan” with a straight locking nut and the fan getting less aggressive closer to the nut and more so as it travels towards the bridge. Almost exactly opposite of the Ormsby. If you look at a guitar like the Ibanez RGMS8 they fan it differently yet again and it definitely would not work with a standard, straight bridge. Also, after looking at the Ormsby line it appears they have abandoned that method of building their fanned fret guitars for a bridge that slants like the Kahler. I must say though, I said I would believe it when I saw it and you delivered. As someone that has a guitar channel I hear people make claims they can’t back up and then they just rant nonsense and disappear. The fact you were able to show me what you are talking about is something I appreciate.
Gary Kahler will reside in my mind as a badass guitar innovator 🎸 until I die. He is a total badass! Bless you guys for making these videos
He totally fucking rocks! That’s for sure.
These are selling brand new for $1700 now, because they are odd ball, 8 string tremelo is like a unicorn, i snagged one, i like it better than my other guitars, sad that dean got all messed up, would have been cool to see more variations
Yep, Dean stopped making them but they did just put out a new V. They aren’t gone yet so maybe they’ll come back.
As for the 8 string multi scale trem you can buy as many as you want from Kahler right now. You could even get 9 or 10 string regular or multi scale if you want.
I can appreciate this guitar even though it is not the sort of thing I would be interested in. It was very educational to see and learn about.
When I go through it I think it will reveal itself as even cooler.
Armadillo Dean!!! What a crazy story!
I know, right?
quite the piece of engineering.
I totally agree!
Ooooo, so the Kahler locking nut has a built in string retainer? That is so badass!
They all do, from 6 to 10 string.
Also, each string slot has a different hight, width, and radius to accommodate the different gauges of the strings.
That is so f*cking sick! Gary is freaking awesome! I don't really play the style of music that would facilitate a guitar like that but I'm willing to make changes in my life🤣Are those Kahler 8 string trems available to buy? I have a custom guitar shop and would love to build a guitar around one of those!
Gary Kahler is so awesome that you can get a 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and even 10 string guitar bridge from Kahler International. Flat mount or stud mount, regular or multi scale!
And that’s not including bass!
How exciting!!! You must’ve been beside yourself!!!
So far every time at Kahler International is exciting.
Its amazing, I bet that Gary Kahler's innovations are going to be the mainstay of future designs and innovations in guitar whammy. God Bless both him (and floyd rose as well)
Couldn't agree more!
That thing looks like a ton of fun. I’d love to try that out. I love the locking mechanism (floating/fixed) on the trem. Super groovy.
I need to get a program together for music teachers such as yourself to come to Kahler International and enjoy all of the Kahlery goodness.
No video has made me want to build a 9/10 string until now!!
I’m dying to do. 9 string multi scale now!
Now thats a pretty cool guitar!
It is so fun to ply!
@@REXYLAB ive never played a multiscale or an eight string. It looks like a fun machine though. I don't know if i would like an eight but i really wanna try a multi!
@@stevenpipes1555 the first multi I ever tried was a Dingwall. I was worried that it would be difficult to play but it wasn’t. That wasn’t the case with the first time I played an instrument with an extra string. Once again a bass, 5 strings and my hands were confused for about a week!
I think this might be why that first Ibanez 7 string failed so badly.
At any rate I encourage you to definitely check out multi scales because they are really great! Extra strings are fantastic as well, but you might need to give yourself time to adjust.
Almost every I know has it down in a week.
Wow! Gary's a baller!
Yes he is!
4:05 Holly shit!!
Fuck yeah!
I'm a metalhead but 7, 8, 9 string multi scaled guitars are definitely not my thing. The Kahler trem is a very impressive piece of engineering, though!
They make them for 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 string guitars in regular or multi scale. Also stud mount or flat mount in bright chrome, black krome, or gold.
You know, should you ever need one.
Oh, one more thing… you can also easily lock it to make it fixed.
Crap, one other thing, you can change the rollers from brass to steel or Teflon glass also.
Do this without the knob on the end of the trem arm, and I'm in.
Kahler offers different bars without the tip.
The Kahler trem is impressive, but maybe you didnt know, multiscale guitars can be made which use standard, straight bridge hardware. This involves calculating the fret fan so that the parallel fret is positioned at a hypothetical position like 1000 or something. The fan itself ends up more pronounsed in the lower positions of the fretboard.
I wouldn't enjoy breaking my wrist playing that idea.
@@TempleGuitars It can be extreme or subtle. For instance, if the scale length difference between the lowest and highest string is half an inch, then it's barely noticeable. If you look at pictures of some Strandberg guitars with fanned fretboards you'll see what I mean.
Even larger scale length differences in this calculations don't make the guitar "wrist breaking", it's simply that the fret fan doesn't resolve on the fretboard. A guitar that taxes the wrist has more to do with an extreme scale length, or a player who has smaller hands.
@@peachmelba1000 I own a Strandberg and the bridge is every bit as fanned as the neck.
Can you show me an example of a standard bridge being used for a multi scale guitar… that actually intonates? Until I see it I have a hard time believing it.
@@REXYLAB I apologize, I got my guitar brands mixed up. It's Ormsby guitars. Unfortunately if I post a link in a comment it'll get auto deleted, but look up Ormsby Genesis multiscale to see what I'm talking about.
Also, I've built a guitar in this fashion and it's intonates perfectly well.
@@peachmelba1000 it didn’t take long to see how it works with the Ormsby and you are correct. However, this would not work with the Dean exile line.
If you look closely the Ormsby is designed to have the most extreme part of the fan close to the nut. It’s a little fanned at the 24th fret but not much.
With the Dean it’s kind of a “half fan” with a straight locking nut and the fan getting less aggressive closer to the nut and more so as it travels towards the bridge. Almost exactly opposite of the Ormsby.
If you look at a guitar like the Ibanez RGMS8 they fan it differently yet again and it definitely would not work with a standard, straight bridge.
Also, after looking at the Ormsby line it appears they have abandoned that method of building their fanned fret guitars for a bridge that slants like the Kahler.
I must say though, I said I would believe it when I saw it and you delivered. As someone that has a guitar channel I hear people make claims they can’t back up and then they just rant nonsense and disappear. The fact you were able to show me what you are talking about is something I appreciate.
Siiiiiiiiiiiick
It’s super fun to play!