Maester Aemon Targaryen Knew The Truth About Everything? - The Biggest Mystery in Westeros! (Theory)
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2021
- Welcome back for another Game of Thrones and A Song of Ice and Fire Theory video. In this video, I will be talking about one of the biggest secrets and/or mysteries in A Song of Ice and Fire. I will also tell you why I believe Maester Aemon knew the truth about everything. I think Maester Aemon and Brynden Rivers, also known as, Bloodraven, stayed in contact with each other over the years. After joining the Night's Watch together, Maester Aemon and Bloodraven served at Castle Black together for over a decade. During this time, I believe Maester Aemon not only learned of Brynden Rivers' plans for the future, but I think he agreed to help him as well. Check out the video to find out why. Thanks for watching!
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When talking to her granddaughter Margery, Lady Elena Tyrell tells her she was meant to marry 'some Targaryen'. I always wondered if it was Maester Aemon.
I think it was Egg she was meant to marry because the way she describes how he looked
Neither. Easy to findout who she was actually supposed to marry, though. Google it.
@dmoss409 easier/quicker for sure. But I sometimes choose to forego just googling something for engaging with new ppl. Especially in formats like this.
It was Prince Daeron, son of Aegon(5th of his name) that she was betrothed to.
Its Duncan Targaryen
“I didn't know until this day that it was Bloodraven all along.”
-Don Vito Corleone
When he said it?
😆😆😆
I love the intro because it reminds me of when GoT actually had good dialogue
I miss those days 😭
It went from that to "you are my queen. I don't want it."
I memba those days
It was good untill they decided they no longer wanted to follow the books.
@@Livingshadow2009 the books? You mean the ones that still aren't written?
No one was more kinder nor gentler than him
He was the blood of dragon
Maester Aemon, you won't find a single hater of this character
Also in the books when Maester Aemon was lying sick and dying, he said to Sam that cold preserve and leaving the wall affected his health. Perhaps he sailed too far away from Bloodraven for his magic to keep 'preserving' Aemon's life?
Good catch.
Nonsense. Aemon wouldn’t need magic to stay alive. Silly theory
@@ericcheltenham7001 No? And what makes you come to that conclusion? What's silly is the fact that we are still required to postulate about a story that should have been finished years ago.
@@ericcheltenham7001 to YOU!
@@ericcheltenham7001 I'm just adding that info since it wasn't mentioned in the video. In the books aside from Bloodraven, Maester Aemon was one of the most oldest man in Westeros IIRC.
Glad this channel is keeping GOT alive!
Having read the books I’m impressed that you have taken the time to pick out these clues/hint/foreshadowing. That’s a lot of work. 😀
Dayne's Dawn is Lightbringer imo. Ticks all the boxes- forged from a comet by people who look very similar to Targaryens, so of a race somewhere in that region. The sword is pale like milkglass, pale like the White Walkers' ice swords, but Dawn is of fire. It has been forged in fire of dying star. It's the only sword that saw the previous Long Night. Furthermore, the name Dawn. Dawn comes after night. Dawn brings light.
Even from the literal pov, the fact that Dawn has been described and attributed so much importance to, more than any other sword in ASOIAF, can't be a coincidence. Dawn is Lightbringer.
The words are probably “we bring the dawn” or bringing the light or something along those lines. It could also be why Dawn is supposed to wait for one who is worthy…instead of just being an expert swordsman you need to be the one that was promised but the tradition got changed up over the thousands of years.
Who wields it?
Your season 8 rewrite was absolutely brilliant. Season 9 is also going incredibly well. I'm deeply hooked with the story progression and curious about how things will unfold. My only objection being the irregular release of the s09 episodes.
Where can i read his rewrites?
@@filipcrnoja5385 it's one of his previous videos. He narrates the scenes. Our imagination does the rest.
In which platform he writes
@@RomeluParez doesn't matter anymore. It's been more than a month since he last uploaded.
There has been some crap written about G.O.T but this little clip made sense, was entertaining and fun to watch, while opening my eyes to things I have watched, but not seen! Post more please 😊
Love this channel! And def one of the best accents/voices on youtube!
Well done to work that out . It really makes sense when you lay it all out like that .
Always love your commentary.
Bloodraven continued to live because he merged with the weirwood. Once Maester Aemon left the wall (and therefore probably got out of Bloodraven‘s influence) he fell sick and died. Makes you think if Bloodraven somehow had a hand in keeping him alive through magic since 104 years in such a harsh environment is quite noteworthy.
Also there was a scene in the books (don’t remember if it was in the show as well) where Maester Aemon quoted the "the dragon has three heads" line. If he knew Jon was a Targaryen as well, they would be the two other heads for Daenerys.
It would make sense. Perhaps the bloodraven was even keeping the wall unbroken?
@@patriciaphillips1449 I always thought that the Night King couldn't get through the wall until after the dragons were flown over it since they have magic. Don't forget, when Daenerys was in the Undying lands, the Warlocks did say their powers came back once the dragons came to the city.
I am thinking that Master Aemond knew that Jon was a Targaryan as well. Targaryans can sense other Targaryans
The fact that John wasn’t made king after everything still makes me mad
Wow, this is why this show is loved.
Such videos will keep coming, and things will keep being so much fun always, as I hope.
I wish they would do season eight over. They could’ve done so much more with it.
If they redo it they have to extend it a few more seasons
When Maester Aemon lay sick, he called Jon Snow “Egg” a few times. They just thought it was dementia!
Or is it that Master Aemond was saying that Jon has a dragon egg somewhere. Those Targaryans made sure that their children had a dragon egg when they are born to bond with the dragon.
Oh so awesome!! I loved it, can't wait to hear more, thank you!!! Take care and stay safe, peace and love to you all!!!
its really a good thing that people like u had kept this got memories alive
That opening literally explains the whole backstory of the throne. I love it🥰.
I have thought about this forever. Reading the books, knowing they served together for all those years, there had to have been many very interesting conversations. I follow many ASOIAF channels. Of all the deep dippers, I don't recall anyone else even bringing this up except you.
This video was very good and I thank you for it. There is so much rehashed, same old stuff being put out just because. It was good to think about this.
Nice use of Beyond the Black Rainbow sound track! And awesome video as usual!
Thanks!
I LOVE your videos. You are a very in depth thinker. l love your offerings, great insights and ideas. Can't wait for the next episode of Season 9. :)
Always amazed by your analysis.
I could watch you’re videos all day every day. I wish I had time to read all the books but like many others family, job ect… makes it hard. Thanks for the work you put into this 👍🏽🙏🏽🔥
Great video !!!
When Jon died, that was the perfect time for him to hear of his parentage from Ned himself. YOu know the usual "I will tell you of your past, but your time has not come, Lord of Light wants to send you back) trope. Ithink it would have led well into Jon's character progression from Lord Commander of the NIghts Watch to his building of forces to take backhis homeland. I also think the war to recalim house Stark should have gone on longer. Maybe even destroy a Lanister army tryijng to come North to cull them. I can just see that scene when Cersy says to him, Who in the hell are you that you think you might have a right torule? YOu are a bastard you have no Right to the Iron Throne!"
to which Jon gets to unleash his Russel Crow in Gladiator
"I am Aegon Maximus Targaryyean, Commander of the Armies of the NOrth, Genreal of the Barbarian Legions. Son fo Murdered Parents,, Cousin to more murdered cousins, Owner of a one eared Doggo, and Nephew to a fine piece of a$$, and I will ahve my vengeance in this life or the next)
Cercy: "Ugh.... You bang your family members" (Jaime is heard to the side uncomfortably coughing)
hahahahahaha
Thank you for all your research and information 🙏 ❤️. It is so helpful to me. Since my brain is like a sieve , your explanations are always appreciated. You really help me remember, what was written about the characters in the book.
I’m dying for the next episode in Season 9. Can’t wait to see what happens to my Queen Daenerys, Jon, Tyrion, Brianne, and Pod! Hope you are doing well TT❤️
I cant wait either im treating his rewrite like canon its that good 😂
Same here! I check everyday hoping it will be there.
Same here
they all die 😈😈😈 horribly
Same!!
Thank you for that, it came at just the right time for me, as I’ve actually just read that part in the books. Your explanation absolutely makes sense to me. By the way, you most probably can guess now that I’ve watched the show before reading the books 😉
Hey where have you been? Good to see you back!! Eagerly awaiting next episode of season 9
i miss the times when i loved GoT❤️
I liked this analysis, but it was all over the place. You didn't include the years-long research that Maester Aemon did because of his brother's prophetic dragon dreams and how all of it came to conclusion, and how significant Daenerys is and her dragons to the storyline. This wasn't just about Jon and the fight in the north. This is also about unlocking Targaryen mysteries. At Maester Aemon's deathbed, he was CONVINCED that Daenerys is the Prince that was promised, "Dragon" being a gender neutral term in Valyrian.
Muh quen
When Jon first arrived at the wall, Aemon was saying ''Aegon... little Aegon''
And that was the moment I knew Jon was Targarian
Aemon knew who Jon was right from the start
Oh wow! I did not catch that. O need to see ot again. And yes Targaryans know other Targaryans
Great video
Very insightful thank you.
HBO SHOULD OF HIRE YOU AS A WRITER!!YOUR TALENTED MANE
my dude im freaking dying for the rest of your season 9!!!!
Great video! But.....please continue season 9. Your doing an impressive job ser!
Please remember that The Three Eyed Crow is what Bran called him. He was actually unfamiliar with the term, which means either he doesn't know how he appears to people in visions or it wasn't him.
nope
My man as much as I enjoy the rest of the videos, it's killing me waiting for the next episode, PLEASE release it soon 🔥❤️
So good!
We need the next episode of season 9!!! Im dying over here... Positive note you're still beating GRRM pace.
Aemon, in the end, believed Daenarys to be the Prince that was Promised/Azor Ahai reborn, not Jon. So much so that Aemon wanted to go to her and guide her, while warning Jon that Stannis specifically isn't Azor Ahai via the Jade Compendium. Also in the books, before learning about Dany, Aemon was convinced he was the last living Targaryen. Aemon attributes his long life to being at the Wall and the power or magic there; Melisandre backs this claim by specifically calling the Wall a "hinge of the world" where her power is stronger there than even when she was in Asshai. Further, Aemon made a point of showing that he didn't care who became Lord Commander of the Night's Watch in the books, stating firmly that he wouldn't favor one contender over the other.
Sorry to sound harsh, but almost everything you cite as support for this fan theory comes from the show adaptation (which got MANY things wrong), not the actual books. It is a fun thought, but the only way it works is to ignore so much stuff from the novels.
It’s tru me they are using show stuff and just coveted danys vision
I missed these videos. Nice!
Talking Thrones thank you so much for this interesting information you made alawys good video and not predictions.
Im Always saying the words along out loud as Little Finger speaks them during your videos Intro’s 😆
I still believe that Meera Reed is Jon's twin sister. Howland Reed was at the tower of joy that day and witnessed what took place. He was ever loyal to the Starks and would have obeyed Ned's command to raise one of Lyanna's babies under a false name, as he did with Jon.
Meera was always different than Jojen, who was tiny, sickly, and resembled the children of the forest. Meera, however, was always strong, great with weapons, and has Stark features. I know the show didn't go that route (and completely abandoned her story line), but I believe this is the truth in GRRM's storyline.
What do you guys think?
Really interesting theory, apparently they are the same age in the books so it’s not impossible. I also checked that it’s not uncommon for Targaryen children to have dark hair; I can’t find a good source on the fact but the silver-blonde hair appears to be recessive. The only problem with this theory is that we’d need to find some actual book-content, like actual quotes and implications pertaining to this
Possibly she disguises herself with dye like Sansa while her true hair color is white.
Perhaps she's Lanna and Rhaegars only child. Lets not forget that Jon looks exactly like Ned. Maybe bringing her to bloodraven was the point and not Bran.
@@basquat76 why would bloodraven have her be slowed down by bran in the first place, it would make more sense for him to just have her and jojen go behind the wall if bran wasnt needed
@@sombersensei9119 you make a good point. Maybe bran is his replacement and meera is out there
This is amazing! Thank you for making this video! I love everything GOT lore, especially Jon Snow!
I wish I could like this video over and over again ❤️❤️ thank you
😁
I guess ive always known that Meister Amon knew who John was and the number 1 reason Eddard let him go to the wall! Because he will be watched over by his family. Dan and Dave messed up so much when you realize the tie in with Meister Ammon and John Snow as well as Blood Raven.
he let him go to the wall as Starks go to the wall anyway .... plenty of Starks have gone there before Jon
@@randomcallum Thats true, however Jon was not a Stark and also John would have been a possible target if he wasn't watched over.
@@princeofdorne3415 Well if we're going by R+L=J, then he's as much a Stark as a Targaryen
I think it's interesting now with dance of dragons hearing the perspective that they conquered westerose and must maintain leadership specifically to help humanity survive the dark night. They needed family at the wall and beyond.
It was a prophecy why they left. And a Dream that created Ice and Fire. You find this out in House of Dragon so.... awesome theory
14:03 what he does mean is that the dragon king always needs his or her council within the family, you could see in the new show house of dragon. An alone Targeryen in the world will lead to crazy act, even king has small council but they are pack just like wolf, they tend to listen to one another.
There are probably a lot more people who knew. At a minimum, Rhaegar would have arranged for a midwife and a wet nurse. Also supplies would have been needed. House Dayne was probably where this came from and probably explains the Willa rumors
Indeed
One of my favorite characters💕
I've been reading (audiobook) A Song of Ice and Fire, the books are great!!! Your deep dives are wonderful! I really wish they would have left in The Story of the Smiling Tree Knight.
I appreciate the video of course. But with subtitles it is so much easier 🙈
Same for me xD
Well hit the subtitles icon
Then laugh as YT struggles with the names
Rhaegar wasn’t a swordsman, then Summerhall tragedy happened and he received some sort of message either from that or from reading something about the prince that was promised- he says it seems I must become a knight to I think Arthur Dayne of the master at arms who trains him
Rhaegar didn't know about the prophecy of fire and ice. Like 4 people knew in the books and daemon only knew because rhanerya told him when she thought he knew
I have my hands all four the five books and I have started the first book and love it its exactly like season 1
we need to have a tv series about master aemon
The sword that Stannis used was not enchanted to flame by Melisandre. It was a parlor trick. This was made clear in the books, some flaming sword illusion practiced by a monk for show in tournaments. Melisandre believed, because she saw what she wanted to see.
She did that a few times. The scene with no heat, glowed with light. But there was no heat to it. It was an obviously glowing magic sword, with no heat.
Shadow magic. Illusion.
these theory videos do my head in
He definetly knew more than he was letting on at first
I didn't realize the 3 eyed raven was Brynden Rivers. I just finished "Dunk and Egg" and his character played a big part.
Which means he was at least 120 years old. At least.
Yup I always knew there was more to Aemon story!
3:18 Aegon Targaryan, the *fourth* of his name
I'm really waiting for more of season 9
Talk Time!!!
Been reading the books lately, I stay away from the show now unfortunately. Still enjoy the early seasons and your analysis.
Cool video and fun premise, not sure Jon's real name is going to turn out to be Egg (Aegon) in the books tho
I need to reread these. I don’t remember half of this and I have read them a few times
Dang this was giving me chills for some reason. Why or should I say how did I not put this together
The intro is so dope
The prince that was promised?
"The language misled us all for a thousand years. Daenerys is the one, born amidst of salt and smoke."
- Maester Aemon Targaryen
The King Brain on Wheels and Jon Snow World rather resembles Alfred Kubin's "The Other Side" (Die andere Seite) but there still a Princess of X is in petto!
Amazing theory, and most people don’t think Aemon knew who Jon Snow was, I always felt he did !
He knew like everyone that rhaegar kidnapped John's mom it's literally the reason Robert barathian started a war
I would love to see a GOT prequal built around Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark
I mean did you watch game of thrones? The war started by Robert barathian was because of him kidnapping her
@@kckillakrack9714 I know how it started but still would love to see it all played out on screen. Books were made I think we all know how it all played out but that doesn't mean it can't be adapted for tv
I love how you know the history and bring it to light. Unfortunately the writers of GOT did such a bad job in season 8 that they ruined a wonderful adventure! I don’t care what anyone says! All that history and all the drama surrounding it only for Snow to get totally screwed and and a Stark ends up being King? I still am thoroughly pissed off at season 8. Ugh 😩 how dare they do that!!!
It went off the rails starting in season 5, it was a dumpster fire long before season 8.
3:18 he's actually son of Aegon the Fourth, not the Fifth
I am still do not understand how they (show Writers) really missed up the hall story and the main porpse of the promised king.
Is there another one of your episodes coming out?
What do you call it when you binge Preston Jacobs, indeepgeek, GrayArea, the Order of the Green Hand, Quinn's Ideas, Schwifty, LML, Glidus, and Talking Thrones in attempts to figure out how GRRM will actually end the books? Cause the answer has gotta be there somewhere, right? I might title it 'The Existence of the Unending Tale in the Imagination of the Fan Terrified of Asking GRRM Anything Lest He Never Finish' By Alleras D'Nas
"A story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget it's a lie"
Hold the door hold the door to hodor was one of the best twists ever. Like damnnnnn
The thing I've always wondered most about Aemon, given how old and wise he was, did he either know or have a hunch who Jon really was?
He was John's grandfather everyone knew rhaegar kidnapped his mother and caused Robert barathian to start a war
@@kckillakrack9714 Yes...
No he would be Jon's uncle. And Lyanna went with Rheagar willingly. She did not want to be with Robert Barathian
I really hope HBO decides to do a dunk n egg show and roberts rebellion. We would get to see bloodraven in his prime and master Aemon young. And to see Raegar. I know GRRM said there’s no reason to do roberts rebellion because we’ll know everything that happened by the end of the books. I disagree. We know everything about the dance in detail because it’s written in fire n blood. Yet they’re still making HOTD. It’s different to see the story come to life on screen. So I’m hopeful we will see these shows.
My new favourite ASOIAF theory
blood raven is the son of aegon 4 isnt it?
Yes, Aegon the Unworthy
How do we reconcile all of this with the Samwell chapter in AFFC where Sam is talking to Alleras and Archmaester Marwyn; describing his journey and the last days of Maester Aemon? Saying, "Maester Aemon believed that Daenerys Targaryen was the fulfillment of a prophecy..." And that, "Aemon would have gone to her if he had the strength. He wanted us to send a maester to her, to counsel her and protect her and fetch her safely home." Do we have to assume that this is an instance of unreliable narration, and Maester Aemon never explicitly stated these things about Dany, but rather about "the last dragon" meaning Jon but letting Sam misinterpret his words?
Drives me crazy how they didn't do a good job IRL on the swords. They could have made Ice a Damascus that had black swirls to make it like the book. Stannis' sword could have had a case hardened color finish after pulling it out of the fire etc.
"His sword glowed red and orange" as what happens to metal when it gets hot...
3:20 wasn't that king aegon 4th
when is the next episode off your own season coming?
VERY plausible!
If i go with every episode of talking thrones...its certain that one day i can write Secrets of Song of ice and fire😁😁
I think this is all quite a reach. Regardless, the casting decisions for GOT are probably the best of any hit TV show adapted from or based on a series of popular books. Aemon being one of the best.
And now we know that when Aegon the conquerer came to westeros he saw something beyond the wall and prophesied or envisaged the 'long night' and horrors it shall bring...Aegon only call this upcoming battle the 'song of ice and fire'...now it is also known that every targaryean king passes this secret to the next king, Aegon also said that when long night comes a Targeryean should be sitting at the throne to protect the realm...
Perhaps Rhaegar knew it was almost the time...and his son will play the song of ice and fire
What if Lyanna and Rhaegar never married but simply had a child together? Jon would still be a Targaryen but illegitimate. Do you think that would matter? Also he’s technically been legitimized as a Stark by Robb so he’s officially a Stark now in the books. Granted no one but a few Northman know this but still lol
Jon doesn't have a claim regardless of lyanna and rhaeger getting married or not, Aerys made Viserys his new crown prince and heir disinheriting Rheagers line. Jon has no claim
@@donone352
I believe the ‘disinheriting’ was rumoured only...
Viserys became _an_ heir after Rhaegar’s death, but Rhaegar’s son, Aerys’ eldest grandson, would *always* supersede Viserys- as a second son, he is behind both Rhaegar’s son *&* Rhaegar’s daughter- despite being five or however many years older than them (but the latter might depend more on how much political force the Dornish could bring to bear on the situation, given the issues surrounding the Great Council of 101 & the resultant Dance of Dragons....).
With the deaths of Aegon & Rhaenyra (which Aerys couldn’t have known about, as he was killed roughly about the same time) after Rhaegar’s passing, Viserys & then Daenerys could **now** be considered the senior branch heirs (given Jon’s not known at this time).
However, it all reverts back to the original senior branch, when Jon’s heritage is revealed- **this** is what should have created the conflict between them; Dany’s spent years thinking she’s the last of her line, the only heir to the Throne- her only competition is the widely despised & disgraced widow & mother of three usurpers (we’ll ignore that Stannis is still alive as of the book’s’ current end & Cersei hasn’t actually claimed the throne) - suddenly, it’s revealed that not only is she *not* the last of her family, _but_ this other relation is actually **ahead of her in the line of succession...**
@@OcarinaSapphr- That's not true at all, Rheager was never king, he has no KINGSHIP, Aerys next oldest son automatically becomes king ahead of any of Rheager children, the way you described it is not how succession works. Viserys line was the true line , not Jon. Dany was the last of viserys line, making Daenery the rightful heir to the iron throne. Anyway that's irrelevant, Rheager line was disinherited, it wasn't rumours, Aerys disinherited Rheager line in Roberts rebellion bypassing Rheagers children, that's the direct line we get in AWOIAF hardback, so Jon has no claim to house Targaryen, making Dany the rightful heir to house targ
@@donone352 That is not how succession work. Rhaegar's son actually is next in line. If Prince William dies, Harry would not be next in line. William and Kate's kid would be.
@@kennyhudson9201 Not true, its up to the king of westeros who is his successor, and king Aerys disinherited Rheagers line in favour of Visery. Nobody can tell a king who inherits his lands and titles because the king is the law of the land and he chose visery to be his successor.
Rheager was never king, he has no kINGSHIP, Its not even controversial what aerys did, its standard procedure.
If Aerys had died and Rheager was king, then jon would be the heir, but that didnt happen. Visery was his successor and in turn he made Daenery his heir. The line of succession is very clear and the law makers had no problem with changing the line to viserys when he was crowned king on dragonstone.
Even ello and lydia who co wrote the world of ice of fire said Danys has more of a claim than jon