The Problematic History of Hill's Science Diet (Pet Nutrition)
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2022
- This videos goes deep into the history & origins of Hill's Pet Nutrition (Science Diet) as well as their relationship with the FDA & how they could be misleading pet owners. Many facts are presented in this video but any conclusions drawn are of personal opinion.
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My great dog Deputy was placed on Hill's Science Diet in summer 1978 till he passed away in October 78. He HATED it! It made his last days even more miserable than necessary! If a dog isn't going to last long, he/she should be given a treat of cooked bacon to cheer it up. Or something else. Even condemned prisoners get to choose a tasty meal.
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This reminds me of people who tell people with cancer not to take chemo and instead eat 10,000 oranges and have 2 coffee enemas a day. A lot of boutique brands rely on heavy marketing and no real nutrition science to back up their claims. It may make you feel good that you think your dog is eating wild-caught salmon ripped away from the jaws of a grizzly bear in Alaska, but in reality, you may not be meeting your pet's nutritional needs. I trust my vet.
Naw you got cancer, you may need chemo. High quality “boutique” brands still employ board certified veterinary nutritionists that formulate their recipes to meet AAFCO or FEDIAF guidelines. You know what’s crazy though, there are a few recent studies that tested some of the top kibble brands to see if they nutrition labels were accurate and what they found was that many of the foods have ingredients in them that weren’t on the ingredient panel, and had ingredients on the ingredient panel that weren’t in the food. I hate to tell you but your vet’s education was heavily influenced by big kibble companies with the agenda to sell as much kibble as possible. No hate to vets either, it isn’t their fault their education is sponsored by Mars.
So is it good or what and can it be used as a topping
I love this informative video about dog food. We need more of these so we as pet parents have a better understanding of what is okay to feed our dogs.
Infomative and thorough video. A study by the U. of New Mexico, of six dog food brands, found that all of them contain ingredients not listed on the label. All of them were missing some ingredients that were listed. Two of the brands contained dog DNA. Ouch! In a lawsuit filed against Rachael Ray nutrish, it was disclosed that pet food companies allowing non-human grade ingredients in pet food, was widespread. FDA oversite of pet food companies is very lax. My two cats main diet is raw ground beef. Once a week a tin of sardines. I will be removing all canned food as soon as I can. Pun indended.
I follow you on TT and see this video on there. Thanks for posting this!
Which foor do you recommend ? Hills gastro intestinal with biom ? What do you think about this one ? For cats..
Carnivore.
I put my dog on hill's 3.5+ years ago at 12 for arthritis... He just died one week ago. He loved the flavor and I didn't have much problem of him tiring of it. He was completely healthy while eating it. And I am certain this food extended his life span. TMI for some of you, but he has the PERFECT poop 💩 for the last 3.5 years while on this diet. His poop was always solid and literally perfect. And guess what the best clue for health is?.... Poop 💩💩!!!! So I am very pleased with Hills and will now use it for my new puppy
Yes!!! We had a 16 year old dog on Hill's J/d for athritis (he was a basset, GSD mix) for 2 years. It definitely extended his life and enabled him to move well! When the Hill's food was done, he started having joint pains again
I’m absolutely dying at this comment !! Perfect poop but I can so relate ! , my dog is currently three years old and he’s been on hills since he was a baby. Zero health issues, zero allergies and perfect poop too. 💩💩
I have had my 4 dogs on fresh/raw balanced REAL food since each was a puppy. PEFECT POOPS. And you know what the best clue for health is.....I feel sorry for you puppy.
I agree!
Ever since I transitioned to Hills science all of my dogs are looking soo much healthier.
Hill’s is a great base food imo because of how much has gone into formulation. I think of it like a meal bar for humans or whatnot. I like to feed my pets as much fresh food as possible (about 50% right now as I am poor) but I can count on Hill’s to fill any nutritional gaps. I wouldn’t feed 100% processed food unless there was a good reason (sometimes sick animals need such precise nutrient balances the safest and most digestible option is just gonna be one of these sorts of foods tbh), but theres no reason to completely demonize them either. They have their use and place.
Great research & vid!
Yes they do require a prescription to buy them. I tried to buy hills biome digestion canned food and Petsmart wouldn’t sell it without a vet rx.
Hills has a special selection of food that requires a rx.
Not in Europe
It's technically not a "prescription," but an authorization.
Than what kibble should i buy?
My cat was eating hills sciece tender chicken for over a year and then al of sudden his stools were runny took him to the vet and the vet said it was a bad batch i been feeding him baked chicken and his stool hardened back up but I can't keep feeding him this i don't what to feed him as he's 16 years old
Wet food. Pate Weruva 🤍
My French bulldog had a insane amount of bladder stones. The food cleared it up and she's been on it for almost 5 years. The price hurts but it actually works in my case.
Bladder stones feed your dog vinegar with any meal a few times a week or lime juice omg. Crazy people think hills does anything different. Dry gravy train and add some meat, say good by to the runs. And your dogs kidneys will stop shedding dead blood cells, raise the ph level. Let him drink an eye dropper of lime juice once a day.
Yeah, it's more of an authorization than prescription. Both of my pets that were on super expensive veterinary diets ended up dead from the diets, instead of the problems they were on the veterinary diet foods for, one Hill's, one Royal Canin. Other pets I had with similar problems lived out their full lives on regular diets. So, never again!
And given the fact that it doesn't contain any medicine, what alternative would you recommend?
Please talk to your veterinarian :). They studied very hard to get their degree and know the right medications and contra-indications (when not to use what) for them!
@@miekevanderwesthuizen968 yea, ask the vet cuz there is no conflict of interest there.....Most vets get very little schooling on nutrition. WHY is every other species on earth eating a bio-appropriate diet except out dogs and cats??
I don't understand why they tell you not to feed your pets ppl food, yet I see it is in the list of ingredients. I think it's a way to get you all to spend more money. What did animals eat before ppl started to have animals as house pets? They hunted and ate anything they could.
I'm feeding my kitten of 3 months now with the Kitten indoor food. He loves it.
I'm just here to express my hatred for the commercials I don't want to hear about science doing anything anymore
My dog had stomach issues on and off for over a year. They did blood work, X-rays and nothing showed up. He ate chicken and rice and vegetables for months but that means he was lacking vitamins and minerals placed my dog on sensitive stomach and coat kibble and he’s been great…loves the food and his vomiting and bloody stool is all gone.
I've legit been told to feed this brand to my dog till she dies since she has pancreatisis. I've been feeding this for a long time, nearly a year now. She lost a drastic amount of weight and feeding her more didn't work, and now I actually have to do half half and because of it. But because of this video, I'm really questioning why I was given by this by my vet, and prescribed this.
I took my dog off of it completely. She stopped going into pancreatitis and gained weight. She 100% on cooked food and thriving. Her vets can’t believe how well she’s doing
More than likely since Hill's is owned by Colgate, they just bought your vet. 🙃
@@erikkaelsbury8986 what food do u give her?
Vets, like normal doctors, get paid to push drugs on patients.
@@ilikecats4410 You can get victors dog food or the grain free red bag from Costco
I owned a black pug named "Bubba," who thrived while eating Science Diet. Good video! Thanks for the information. What brand do you suggest after all your research?
Square Pet is a wonderful alternative. It is formulated by Veterinarians just like Hill's is but with proper nutrition in mind!
Vets push Hills constantly and it's one of the worst dog foods there is. It's such corruption ad client betrayal (or incompetence at best). I feed human grade now. Thx for this review!
But you don’t have a sick one like myself who has heart problems and liver issues and pancreatic issues and is blind and deaf too 😅 it’s the only thing I can give mine because she’s in liver failure
Aww, so sorry. Wishing you the best with your baby. We just do the best we can. xox @@hillaryadcock9864
Our dog is over 14 and thriving on her veterinarian-prescribed home-cooked diet plus prescribed supplements. A "veterinary nutritionist" had the nerve to angrily recommend switching her to a dry, bagged dog food from a large conglomerate "prescription" company. Yes, conflict of interest.
Proud of you!
GOOD JOB Dee!!!
Hi my 1 year 9 month toy poodle has liver problems and first was prescribe Hills ID diet and know they prescribe Hills L/D liver food. Is this food is not good please what diet do you recommend ?
Hey so I agree with basically everything you said, except the part about not needing a prescription and prescription foods not being sold in store. I work at Petsmart and we sell Hills Prescription food, but we do require a prescription from their vet in order to sell it!! Just a little FYI!!
Understood, thank you for clarifying! So prescription diets can only be sold in vet offices (with or without prescription) or in stores (only with a prescription)
@@thebkpets exactly! The only reason Petsmart can sell them is because some of our locations have Banfield Animal Hospital in the store. The stores that don’t have a Banfield don’t sell them. I also don’t think Petco or other pet retailers sell them. So basically vet offices and Petsmarts with a vet office inside!
You legally have to have a vet on site to be able to sell the prescription diets - a Petsmart employee
@@meaghanwhite_xo Petco sells these products as well
ok this is actually confusing for me because ive bought hills cat food at my local petsmart and they didnt ask me for any type of vet prescription. maybe my location just doesnt care 😂
This is Hill's official channel: ua-cam.com/video/4X0QuaSeEz4/v-deo.html Notice that they disabled comments. Thanks for attempting to educate about this company.
Honestly it’s too expensive and not all animals like it! I hate when vets try to push me into buying it over other brands! Like I know what my pets need to eat. So aggravating 😡
So who makes the healthiest food?
Nature 😊
They are sold in stores
They're better than Nestle that's all that matters to me. Also you can be prescribed a knee brace and a wheelchair... Both aren't medication.
Prescription doesn't mean specifically medicine.
Yea, they are owned by Colgate-Palmolive, so much better.
Purina is the best at killing dogs.
Which is especially interesting, since the Hills reps tell the staff at vet clinics that their food is “medicine in a bag.”
I don’t know. I put my cat on hills prescription for an ailment she had. I bought just one bag of the dry in combination with her regular food and it fixed the problem. Maybe it’s unwise to put animals in this stuff permanently
it fixes the symptoms most of the time, and not the underlying issue. A lot of the differences in "prescription" pet foods can also occur in specifically formulated fresh food meals for their animals. Most people do not have the time or money for this. So comes products like Hills, Royal Canin, Purina etc. Also these dry kibbles are difficult for cats and dogs to process; this puts even more strain on the digestive system that may already not be healthy.
cats should be eating a very moist diet. Dry food is a kidney killer.
Omg my cat was prescribed k/d and it really made her worst. I put her back on royal canin and she is much better now
Kibble is not the answer. Do your research.
I can’t find yalls tik tok anymore. Is it still under the same username?
We were banned
Is orijen good
The best kibble on the market is my understanding. Ziwi peak is good it’s air dried raw.
My eight year old Shih Tzu has been on Hill's diet dry dog food for the four years that we have had him, and is doing great!!
Wait till they get a bad batch
I give my shihtzu natural balance LID and my dog looks like a pitbull and feels strong every dog should be not muscular but dense and fit if your dog is merely surviving don't say its healthy
He was going to do great on other food brands
…until his system can’t take it and fails. It will happen. Do your research.
My 15 year old shih tzu has only ever been given Kibble for 2 months throughout his years. Aside from that he's always been given grain free fresh food. He still has his teeth, eyesight, hearing and health in great shape. From one shih tzu parent to another, this food is a no go in the long run.
So funny! Just picked up a written perscription for Hills Science Diet food today. I asked if they (the vet. clinic) had a recipe that I could make at home that would be healthier for my cat who has a uti.
"That's what the perscription is for.", touts the tech.
I followed, saying, "No, I mean a recipe for fresh food I can make at home.".
"No. You need to buy the prescription canned food. It has all the vitamins and supplements that the cat needs."
"But I can add whatever supplements that are needed."
The girl looked dumbfounded. (DUH)
Me, "But what needs to change in the diet to help with the uti?"
I surprisingly watched this young girl quake standing there before me. Then she repeated her rehearsed response. I bowed to leave the conversation knowing I would do my own research and surely find a better response to my questions.
How'd it go finding the exact amounts of needed vitamins?
@@DurzoBlunts Easy with google lol
My dog has a bad liver she has hepatitis and I used to buy her Royal canine because the vet wanted her to have it but it’s been hard to find so I had to switch her to something else he first recommended this food and I’m glad I didn’t buy her this, I just brought her something else, called Dr,Gray Best Breed it looks better then Royal canine
Thank you very much so much for this video. It was very instructive.
Geeze I just bought a big bag of cat food from my new vet. He recommended cause my cat is way over weight, I use to feed him Orijem cat food.
When my cat was overweight, I put her on wet food. It's got all the nutrients she needed, but because it has such a high water content, it means she feels fuller on less calories. My vet was very understanding of my hesitation with feeding Hill's and gave me some other recommendations. Maybe talk to your vet about feeding wet
@@kiwi6421 thanks
What brought me to this video was being sent home with Hills I/D today from my vet only to read the ingredients to see water was the first ingredient and nothing else that would help me believe that any of it was going to make his stomach feel better.
wet food in most brand on the market is %80 water, because animals that base their diet on meat do not usually drink as much water in nature, most of the water they consume comes from their food. Cats and dogs drink water continuously because we get them used to eating dry food without water. I don't know if your animal is a dog or cat, but it is much better to give a cat wet food ( or homemade food), especially if it is a male and has problems with bladder obstructions. Now about the other ingredients, I couldn't tell you if they are good or bad.
Hey I have a 5-month-old gsd, and she keeps getting a upset stomach. Can I give her cinnamon and the turmeric in her yogurt and how much. Bad diarrhea. Sometimes water.
what are you feeding? WHY is pup getting upset stomach? Don't mask the issue, get to the root and fix it. I recommend fresh food.
Turmeric hard on her stomach. Get some minute rice caned chicken cook it up see how it goes. turmeric will give them the runs. It is an aspirin alternative. Small amounts are ok. I add a dash to my dog food I make my own twice a week for Maria my American fox hound. No such thing as dog food for dogs they love vegetables rice lentils meat make your own save a fortune.
So for a cat that has FIC… how can I help him not cause crystals again without buying their urinary food?! I keep him calm but they say it’s a product that keeps his bladder from creating an environment that’ll grow crystals.
We are not nutritionist so we can’t give specific advice, but if we were in this situation, we would talk to our vet about what specifically the food does to prevent the growth of crystals, and see if there is a natural option (such as a food that produces the nutrient needed, etc) Again, we aren’t experts but we do feel that if there isn’t any medicine in these foods, there must be a natural way to accomplish it. Hope that helps ❤️
Check out Dr Karen Becker’s site or the two crazy cat ladies. Avoid fish and avoid dry food, add extra water into whatever food your feeding. (Also not a nutritionist but have read lots from nutrition specialist vets about this)
there’s some super good food you can get called animonda integra protect, i believe they have a urinary care one, its got a good quality meat content i believe, its on zooplus, just check with your vet first also avoid dry food and add some extra water to his food, i hope your kitty is okay
Feed the cat canned food and add lots of water. That's what I do with both of mine.
I have not used this yet, but Weruva has a line of low phosphorus wet cat food. Their Truluxe Steak Frites dinner has lower amounts of calcium, phosphorus and sodium than Hill's. And is much cheaper. You should discuss with your veterinarian.
it’s also made with very poor quality ingredients,tons of fillers and poorly sourced meats aswell it’s quite bad and it’s very upsetting that vets and pet owners don’t do more research on the food the feed their “fur-babies” :(
The cd food saved my cats life after a urinary blockage.
@@era3596 fresh food saved my cats life.
@@dragonlady326 good! my cat is on a raw diet now, but the cd food helped dissolve the crystals and kept them from not returning while transitioning over and finding a balanced raw diet he actually liked
@@ItDoesntMATTERwhatYourNameIS everyone has their own experiences and own opinions on everything that’s how the world goes round . i have been training in nutrition for years and constantly updating my knowledge on the subject and spend about 73 hours a week training so i do know what i am talking about 🖤
@@ItDoesntMATTERwhatYourNameIS with all do respect i graduated and moved out of my parents house at 16 i work a full time job and own 4 vehicles i’m sorry you’re offended
My cat had beautiful teeth until he was put on a Hill's diet by a vet.
Can you do a video on Hill's Cat Food?
Diamond Natural had excess vitamin D. Did you forget
Diamond Natural manufactures makes like 16 different dog food brand names.. just a little info lol :)
I just put my cat in Hills Science Diet! (not the prescription kind) It’s only been 2-3 weeks and she’s already losing weight which is great, but I can’t figure out how it works! Can you explain why my cat is able to eat the same amount of food but still lose weight so quickly?
Likely because it’s lower calorie and/or fat than the last food that you were feeding.
Typically it’s high fiber and low calorie food. When I was feeding my cat Hills perfect weight she was pooping 2-3x as often from all the fiber.
You should really look into how many calories your pet needs in a day and compare it to the food you are feeding. As pet parents it is our responsibility to learn these things. Feeding a bag of cancer causing food because it says "weightloss" is, not a good enough reason. My dog is on a fresh/raw food diet and I never worry about his weight because I know what calories he needs in a day and the caloric value of every treat and meal.
Hill's adds substances like L-carnitine. This is vitamin-like substance that transports fatty acids into the mitochondria for metabolism and energy production. This means that the mitochondria (powerhouse of the cell and supplier of energy) works more efficiently and less free radicals (stuff damaging the cell) is made. So your pets uses fat stores easier which explains the weight loss! High fiber (increases satiety), lower calories and quality ingredients also play a role
@@miekevanderwesthuizen968 You are going hard for hills… You should research how many other foods also add this!!! Compare some ingredients sometime instead of blindly following.
My cat almost lost her life eating this ..... she would rather starve than eat it. That should tell you something...
Hey! As a veterinary student, I think Hill's is really great based on how scientifically they formulate their food (it involves genes and nutrigenomics - very interesting). I suggest you do more research into how this is done. You can also ask your veterinarian - they will be a able to explain what is the difference between a normal pet food diet and prescription diet. Example: kidney diet should not be given to healthy pets due to too little protein etc... Vets study for 6 years (or more, depending on the country) - it is a very, very difficult course. We would not recommend something that doesn't work or is detrimental to pet health. Yes, suppliers with sub-par ingredients can be an issue, but the main thing is that it is addressed and that the company learnt from it. That they did.
You should also think about capitalism
For me, the big issue has to do with actually researching for their research...theres nothing the public can see and their trials as far as I can tell, only test their own foods and mostly in terms of palatability. Nutri-genomics is important to study sure but what about how those nutrients are delivered? Especially moisture in cats...(more on this later). Additionally, the giant vitamin D toxicity recall should be an eye-opener for everyone that even after the melamine crisis and after they claimed on their website that each load was tested, thousands of dogs died. It makes it really hard to trust them. Finally, cats. Cats are obligate carnivores, no vet can deny that. To this day farmers use them to hunt mice/birds/insects (a raw whole prey diet) and they are able to live full lives and procreate (although farm life has many dangers otherwise!) We KNOW the nutritional requirements of cats (they are not mid-evolution to omnivores like dogs). And yet...their "science" apparently tells them that cats should eat a diet thats 40% carbohydrates and 10% moisture or less... its like they are ignoring the physiology of the cat, it makes no sense to me as someone who studied animal nutrition. The Feline Nutrition Foundation is an excellent resource that is unbiased (not associated with a brand of food) created by vets and feline nutritionists. Please tell me why, when we have all this knowledge about feline nutrition do they continue to put already dehydrated and overweight (just examples) cats on dry food... Makes no sense unless they were simply trying to sell (by convincing vets that the "science" (whether its revelant or not) is what makes it worth paying for). I really wish all pet foods were third party tested but we are not their yet. 😅 Also, if you dig more into the research, you will find that protein should only be lowered in the diet in the final stage of kidney disease. feline-nutrition.org/health/species-inappropriate-the-dangers-of-dry-food
@@mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355 LMAOAOAOOAOA
How many weeks do you study nutrition only? And who sponsors the vet school?
Three words: conflict of interest. Veterinary nutritionists almost never recommend home-prepared foods. They simply prescribed commercial food in cans or bags.
Very informative. I don't trust Hill's, but my sister does. Too much Vitamin can kill pets, Maybe they have a working agreement... make pets sick and drum up $ for vets.
She's using their Urgent Care product, I hope she's made the right decision, because our cat is looking very thin. She has to force feed him with a syringe, he hates it. She's trying to pack some pounds on him for his upcoming hyperthyroidism treatment.
Radioactive iodine treatment. I-131 for hyperthyroidism.
I used Hills since years and I never ever had any problems.. good try..
Idk u should check your vet for vitium d toxic
@@ilikecats4410 u should check your vet for these nuts slapping you across the face
Dogs and cats are quite resilient. Science, not hills trademark "science diet". I mean actual scientific analysis is pointing that a lot of the food we feed are pets are responsible for their health conditions. The cancer rate in dogs is approaching 60%. Perhaps your dog had some additional protective factors like lots of exercise, low stress, minimal chemical exposure, regular vet check ups. None of this takes away that Hills dog food is a terrible food and that the company is responsible for the death of so many animals, whether directly through poisoning or shortening their life span.....so uh good try to you. Lets all put out thinking caps on.
Hill's is one of the shadiest dog food brand ever. My vet was such a good person. I almost bought the food but she told me not to (even though it was sitting on her clinic).
Wow your vet is the MVP. Love vets who are real with their clients
What did she recommend?
What did she recommend?
You guys don't recognize a lie when you see it? His vet sells it but had a moment of honesty and told him don't buy it yeah right!
Did he say Vitamin D or E?
He said "D", right?
Yes he said vitamin D😂
We need a class action lawsuit for the companies that sell the food and the company making the food. Get this garbage off the shelves.
Some of the foods by sience diet do have medication in them not all but some do theses even the vet need a test done to have them ordered for cats and dogs to prove it is needed do to the condition.
They have no meds in them. They may be lower in protein or fat but you can easily cook that for your dog. My girl was put on it for pancreatitis. She hated it and lost weight. She also kept going into pancreatitis. I took her off of it and started cooking for her. She’s gained weight and is no longer going into pancreatitis 🤔
@@erikkaelsbury8986 I'm just stating some do have medications that are not at all easy to get for they are medicated. I never said it was better or worse just stating a fact
🤣🤣
You are doing God’s work. Dogs deserve better. Thank you 🙏
But, you know you want to buy it, and buy a whole lot of it...just kidding
Most if not all extruded kibble is horrible nutrition for pets including prescription diets. Do your research.
I do have to have vet prescribe Hills prescription cat metabolic food. I must get vet to contact food provider.
I work part time at Tractor supply for the past 2 years. We have feed training once a year. Purina pro plan and science diet is the best overall. Diamond and Wholesomes constantly have recalls for contamination
You’re listening to what a rep is telling you! They are repeating what their trainer told them! I know as I was a vet pharma rep. Hills made my dogs sick!! Please investigate more ok!
Your just repeating yourself over and over???
lol you’re a jk because you do need a precipitation before you can buy it online because my dog is really sick 🤢 with multiple organ failure I so sick of him lying to people 😂😂😂 because my dog has to be on 10 meds a day just to stay a live at this point
And switching to a better diet could get your dog healthy on 0 meds, but do you
Everything became yadda, yadda at 3:14. I wanted to know what the ingredients were, not a bunch of drawn-out repetitive details about what skunks the manufacturers are. That's a given in the dog food business.
People commenting “well my dogs on it and healthy” so what? That proves nothing. I gave my dog hills her entire life and she was relatively healthy. Still, doesn’t change the objective facts. Dogs have had a huge increase in cancer and they’re not living as long so you cant say it’s because they’re just living longer than they used to. The rise in cancer started when we started feeding kibble. Sorry people but kibble is the issue. Some are okay but even the best brands should be fed with kibble toppers. Hills has poor ingredients and just because it’s keeping your pets alive doesn’t mean it’s good for them. You could feed a person microwaveable dinners their entire life and keep them alive to an average lifespan. Doesn’t mean it didn’t have an impact on their health and overall longevity.