Veterinary Nutritionist Explains Raw Dog Food Diet and Much More
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2021
- Is the raw dog food diet legit? Raw feeding is so popular these days and there is so much misinformation surrounding this topic. In this video I discuss that and a few other things with Dr. Lindsey Bullen. Dr. Bullen is a veterinary nutritionist who is, quite frankly, an expert in everything related to the nutritional needs of your pet. I wanted to have a long form conversation with her, so that I could help provide some answers to common questions pet owners have in regards to the nutritional needs of their animals. We cover everything from raw food, grain free food, the best brands to feed your dog or cat, and some questions from my tiktok. I learned a lot talking to her today, and I hope you do too. She's great. Any questions or concerns, feel free to comment below. Thank you and have a great day!
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I disagree with yr food recommendations. My old dog been fed this ultra processed food. She was on her last legs. And could barley walk. I switched her to raw, she is now running and jumping. She is aging backwards now. Skin is more healthy, her activity is very high, as she use to sleep 22hrs a day. Now she runs, plays like she is 5 years younger.
I feed my dogs whole ground up chicken (bones and all)
Raw eggs
Beef, pork, beef heart, beef kidney, beef liver.
Sardines
Maybe you should watch DR Karen becker.
You guys talking about just stool, teeth, hair. But when yr dog goes from been barely alive to aging backwards. It speaks for itself. And all my other have shown big improvement in activity_level, and overall health.
How come you're not speaking about all the cases of Salmonella poison from all the dry food. And majority of the case came from little kids aged around 2 years old. They get into and play with the dry dog food.
If you can prepare raw food for cooking yourself and not get sick, why couldn't you prepare it for yr dogs, putting food in stainless steel bowls. And wash them daily.
Wipe the mussels of yr dogs.
Mars company, Hersey chocolate company makes majority of all dry and tin food, the also are the ones who pay to teach vets such as yrself about nutrition. Y would they pay to teach u the truth about their food. That's its basically the equivalent of feeding McDonald's.
If you don't want to feed yr dogs raw, feed lightly cooked food.
You been speaking of yr dogs living 8 years, and 10 years. Nbut people who feed raw are get 20 years and more. My 14 year old was at deaths door at age 12, and was declining from age 9. She been on raw for 2 years, and is more healthy than she was at aged 9. She can jump onto the couch with no problems at age 14, but at aged 10, she need to be lifted up.
My cain Corso looks like he's in the gym lifting weights, 125lbs no fat, hair is super soft and shines as if I put oil in it.
My 11 year old Yorkie had really bad skin, all his life, very irrated imfalmed, after 2 mo on raw it cleared up. 2 years later hasn't come back.
My jack Russell hair was always coarse and dry. Is now way softer. And she doesn't shed as much as she use to
My shih tzu, is black and white she looks like she some one polishes her like a bran new car, and her hair is soft like it was as a puppy
My poodle hair is super shiny and super soft. All of my dogs are healthy and my 2 old ones have been acting like younger dogs.
So I have 6 dogs thriving on raw, but on dry and tin food where not.
And for people who don't want to make the raw themselves they can buy it pre-made.
One of the few DMVs on UA-cam. Please make more content about caring for our pets
Willll do!
My dog was kibble fed first 6 months of his life, Royal Canin, Science Diet, etc. you name it. He was constantly suffering through GI upsets and we were going to the vet at least 2x a month. I finally got fed up with all the antibiotics prescribed and “prescription” diets and started researching on raw feeding. I finally switched him over and we have had zero GI issues for 18 months now. My second dog was weaned into a raw diet and has been raw fed his whole life and zero issues for him. People handle raw meat all the time when preparing their own meals, it’s no more hazardous if you practice safe handling practices and know your food sources.
Wonderful! Lions in zoos are fed raw food, not kibble or canned wheat gluten- and corn-diluted chicken byproducts.
I find it so weird that people get all funny over the handling of raw meat, most people prep their own raw meat for their meals, like you say it’s called basic hygiene, everything’s disinfected after and her bowls cleaned with boiling water after each meal.
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Just curious which breeds your dogs are! I’ve noticed patterns in what breeds do best on raw diets and it’s interesting.
@@violetblythe6912 I have Biewer Terriers, which is a toy breed similar in size to Yorkshire Terriers. Any breed of dog would do well on a raw diet. It's really important to make sure the raw meals are completely balanced. I rotate between different proteins and brands for nutrient diversity. They eat 6 different proteins (lamb, beef, rabbit, duck, bison, pork) between 3 different brands in fresh frozen and freeze dried form. I feed chicken sometimes but only pastured, heritage chickens from a local farm on a soy-free, corn-free, wheat-free diet. They have allergies to store bought chicken. Neither of them like turkey. For training, I use single ingredients training treats, like hearts and lung, chicken breast, salmon, liver. They are now 3.5 and 2.5 years old respectively and are thriving on raw.
Thanks for this great interview video. I’m a new pup parent and all the nutrition information out there is so confusing so information from an expert vet nutritionist is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Dr Bullen answered so many questions I’ve had! 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Lot of bullshit in this video!
I feed Darwin’s and Oma’s Pride Raw. Both are complete and balanced, and meet AFFCO standards, I am able to feed it without touching any of the raw food,without putting gloves on!
My Puggle is a licker too! I have never been sick from my dog!
My dog on the other hand,is healthier. Maintains a healthier weigh easily. No unnecessary vet trips. There are many dog professionals from trainers,to vets,to breeders, that will sing praises of the raw diet. I for one,will never feed kibble again!
@ZaryaTheLaika Maybe they were confident in their product,and knew it didn't need to be recalled. Do you really trust the FDA? Our government cannot run a Lemonade stand properly.
For anyone interested in the counter argument… Dr. Judy Morgan, Dr. Ian Billinghurst, Dr. Conor Brady, Dr. Katie Woodly
Yes 👍 thank you
I'll listen to these Dr's anytime. They are the real deal
I don't mean these two. I listen to Dr Ian billinghurst, Dr Karen Becker and others whom have proven themselves to be correct about feeding raw
Thank you! Dr. Bullen sounds like a Hill's sales rep. Perfectly brainwashed.
@@stephaniecrahal5336 lol I wouldn’t call it brainwashing. I also disagree with those diets being fed exclusively, but Hills, RC, and Purina do have an impressive and highly detailed amount of data on their food being able to provide adequate nutrition or be essentially good hospital food in therapeutic situations. I can understand why they would gain trust, and look, if a dog is extremely ill and can’t keep anything down, stuff like their ER food can really help, I’ve had to use it before at the end of a pet’s life. I think these foods have their place, I do disagree with it being the only thing an animal eats for its entire life though.
Thank you for the program. I, like everyone else, is always trying to do what's best for our pups, so thank you!
Raw fed dogs get plenty of fibre, my dog get blueberries, blackberries, apple, broccoli, spinach, bananas pumpkin purée and psyllium husk, so a bit fetched to assume that raw fed dogs don’t get fibre 🤔
Totally agree with you on that. I've feed raw to my current dog and fed my prior dog raw. I guess all the money vets pay for learning what to feed,(kibble) ect. is such a waste of money. Experience in feeding raw is a low cost education. Raw feeder by choice and need. My choice, and the need to feed real food. I want to keep him him happy and healthy. Kibble never worked for any of my dogs at all. I'm not young, (70). I know better
Honestly she's all kinds of nope and seems more like a sales rep with her doom and gloom prophecies like "oh you *can* feed a bone but is it worth the risk of a $10,000 bill and a dead dog, teehee?" among many other things.
I too home feed mostly raw, and it's just a matter of not going to extremes, YES give the doggie an appropriate bone but just don't go nuts with doing so, unfortunately vets tend to forget that part and go like this woman did.
I eat meat only as a human , eat absolutely no fibre and am perfectly healthy, fibre is a myth i eat meat and fat ONLY, my petwill be perfectly fine with raw meat only
@@lizellehattingh281 my mum also goes by the 80/10/10 only, nothing added and her dogs are healthy has anything! My dog suffers constipation if she doesn’t get fibre though, so I don’t think it’s a myth just all dogs are different!
@@charlieyates492 My pup has the reverse trouble yours does if my girl doesn't get grains.
Not too much of course, but a little does a lot of good for many.
What's really scary is employees of pet stores often try to act like nutritionists and say that "grocery store brands" are all bad and try to guilt you into buying pricey food for no reason.
I've seen that personally. It's....interesting.
@@DVMCellini That's a gracious answer. 😂
@@DVMCellini you’re too nice! But appreciated!
I would never believe a pet store employee over a board certified veterinarian.
@@wavyybased1820 I just had a vet tell me that she didn’t have time to study nutrition. So there are very few vets that I trust either. I trust vet nutritionists that’s for sure. I also trust vets like this one who has done the additional studying because food is our medicine. It boggles the mind that nutrition isn’t at the forefront of a doctor or a vet education.
Been feeding my dog a raw diet for about 8 months now and it has cleared up his arthritis and and even cleared up a skin issue. He’s back to being active and happy after a few years of being depressed and not wanting to be active anymore. Seems like there are some vets who are against raw and some who are 100% for it, all I know is it changed my dogs life completely around.
Get an echocardiogram every 6 months or so to check for NM-DCM
What was he being fed before?
@@dawnhazell2697 pedigree kibble
@@alanzenner8655 what are you recommending that test for raw or kibble and what will it detect?
@@dj8010 Recommend echo for raw or a kibble not from the Big 5. Those diets are suspect in NM-DCM (Nutrition Mediated Dilated Cardiomyopathy.
Awesome video! Thank you for doing this interview!
thank you! i hope to do more similar to it.
suchhh a good video, Doc!! Thank you so much! I was a sponge soaking up all the info- definitely sharing this with family and friends!
Glad you liked it and thank you!
Helo
Very interresting interview
I have a question
All the compenies that you named use 'empty' carbohydrates such as corn in the recipe. I heard it is less recommended in dog food. I would love to know your position on the issue of corn and wheat
Corn and wheat are garbage cheap ingredients that shouldn't be in dog or cat food. It's really disheartening to see someone who is a board certified nutritionist propagate misinformation in favor of dry food. I don't even blame the vets, the system is broken and the conflict of interest is rampant. What you won't find are vets who have doctorates in nutrition who also specialize in peer review research that agree with anything said in this interview. So I guess now we can't even trust these "board certified nutritionists" either.
I wish there was more discussion on the necessity of ample amounts moisture in dogs and cats when it comes to food. As well as addressing the high amounts of carbohydrates in kibble which can lead to diabetes, dental issues, and obesity. I understand where the vets are coming from in terms of their concerns surrounding the average person improperly handling raw food and then giving it to their pets, but I felt that there wasn't enough discussion on cooked food (minus bones), which would address the concerns surrounding salmonella.
This is my frustration with this whole debate. The debate is always raw vs kibble with no discussion of fresh, cooked options.
Great, informative video. I feed my dog a combination of kibble and cooked homemade. This combo seems to be more digestible for him.
Wow, I really loved this. I am trying to educate myself as much as humanly possible before I bring my dog home next month. Based on what I’ve personally read, I’m going to feed a premade raw diet that meets AFCOO guidelines. The bones will be blended and I’ll feed daily dental sticks instead of whole bones. I’ve been a little worried about what a vet will think about me feeding raw, and it was so nice to hear a vet just say they will always be there to inform you so you can make your own decisions.
Great video! Thank you for the information very educational. My 5 yr old French Bulldog recently changed diets due to his allergies. His vet recommended a HA diet so far so good.
Glad it was helpful!
Dr Cellini. Thank you so much for posting this interview. I started my own channel after watching so many videos on pet nutrition and all the misinformation! I see this is a year old but keep it up! Thank you!
I watched this video and got depressed as hell thinking about how people could actually be naive enough to believe what this woman is saying, but then my faith in humanity was restored when i read the comments and saw the amount of pushback and criticism its getting! Do not be fooled, my friends!! Dry dog foods sure are convenient, but in no way are they ideal or even good for dogs. Two thumbs down for these two :(
So agree with you on this. How can anyone try to convince the public that kibble is good for dogs? They aren't doing anyone any good, especially dogs and cats. Try to go to any zoo and try to feed the felines and canines kibble. See how fast they will go down hill with their health. Tigers, lions, wolves and dingos, wild dogs. They would all be in the same shape as our own dogs and cats. Kibble was invented for our convenience without thinking about our pets health. They can live a long time on cereal but is that the best for them or for us?
Agree!!! Google meat meal in dog foods and talk to me then! It’s Disgusting!!!
I was thinking this too. Shocked at the push for commercial diets with corn wheat gluten as one of the top ingredients 🤮
"This woman", WOW, even if you disagree with her, be a little respectful and call her by her title, ma'am. Whether you like it or not, she's an educated veterinary nutritionist, and has done factual scientific research, not unlike Dr. Judy Morgan. They all are trying to help us get educated to better feed our pups.
@@elenadejesus7489yes, probably, but we do not share a life with them, unlike dogs who have shared our very homes since 35,000 years ago, if my memory serves me well. Dogs are not wolves, and only some of them are evolutionary close enough to them (like Huskies or Malamutes)
Very informative. Thank you so much for the video!
man this was freaking DOPE
gotta send to all my friends and family and hope they can spare the time to watch it through. thank you both for doing this!!
glad you liked it!
This was a great watch and soothed a lot of my anxieties about feeding my pets. My cat is on Hill’s dry for weight loss and the internet was trying to convince me I was poisoning her or something 🥲 tbh I only ever saw good results from Hill’s myself in the past.
For my dog I mostly feed Farmina but I get Hill’s now and again for variety. Farmina is a European brand backed by veterinary science but they don’t have as much research on their own food (like feeding trials) like Hill’s does. They’re also focused on a more “whole meat low carb” type of idea but their nutrients profiles seem a lot more balanced and in line with what vets recommend (from what I know) than a lot of other brands in that category. Their dry food is actually more affordable than Hill’s too, but the wet food is really pricey.
I was a vet rep at Hills for 34 years. I spoke with the Farmjna folks and was pretty impressed by them.
Very informative. Thank you both for the video.
This was such an awesome and informative video! She is so brilliant and just so knowledgeable! I also got way too excited when she talked about switching to Hill’s new Derm diet because I just switched as well and am way too excited about it 😁 now I have info to use when talking to clients about questions they may have about pet nutrition/diets. Also ran to your tik toc immediately and followed 😁
Hey thanks!
Just wondering why she recomends royal canin with such low grade ingredients compared to acana?
@@andregiroux9839probably affiliated with them. Just like the majority of the vets.
You want validation. Not information. Highly processed crap made with “proteins” made by factories that allow diseased and or euthanized animals to make it then highly heated and pressed crap. It’s just not true. It’s illogical
Thank you!! I’m currently doing a research paper about proper nutrition in dog or the lack of and this is an excellent source information. She explained everything with such clarity and honesty that I value her opinion. Great video!!
Thanks for that I hope to put many more out there like this one.
Your doing a research paper and you think this tripe is a good source of info for your research. Hey how about researching the vitamins and minerals that they try to add back into this carb laden dry kibble. They use the cheapest stuff from china and call it a complete meal. You obviously no nothing if you think this is good content. Good luck in your research
Yay!! I love Dr. Bullen(work with her personally) and this video is so great!
She was great. Need to have her on again.
Keri K. Hi how can I contact her👏🏻💛I want a personalized raw diet plan for my babies if it’s possible
Please tell her an old retired Hills rep was cheering watching her video!!!
Thanks so much for this. I feel confident now that I’m feeding my dogs the right food.
How did you find the right diet for your dog? There’s so much information out there and Vet is no help. They recommend Royal Canin kibble…
@@bonniemayne9399 I’ve compromised-feeding what my vet recommends twice a day and the third is home cooked. I was feeding canned one meal a day, but home cooked is easy and fast with an instant pot and may even be cheaper than canned.
I LOVE THIS! would be a dope podcast on all things pets and health! would love for this video to have chapter breaks so information can be easily reviewed! good stuff man! appreciate the content!
It was the best informative video about pet nutrition on youtube! Thank you so much Dr. Cellini for sharing this video
I do a combination of kibble, the honest kitchen, cooked meat and freeze dried raw toppers to cover all my bases 😂.
i'm curious - why kibble? thanks
@@juliamihasastrology4427 because it’s a good pad for my wallet 😂. My dog isn’t picky at all, I know kibble is at least balanced in vitamins even if the ingredients aren’t ideal. I don’t know enough about raw to trust that she’s getting what she needs if I do it on my own and the vitamin mixes can be super pricey! Several years ago, we fed raw and dehydrated exclusively but then we had a child, expenses increased and with inflation, we cut corners where we can.
Awesome. I learnt a lot. Expecting more of this.
Thank you so much to Dr. Bullen for coming to talk, this was so informative! This was my first look into vet nutrition and this video did a great job of being digestible (..get it😂) while still preserving complexity. I can’t wait for the next specialists, maybe cardiology?
I was literally thinking the same thing - cardiology.
@@DVMCellini if you did a whole series going through different specialties i would die, there is nothing like it out there on youtube so this would be a first and definitely something to help the younger veterinary students to come!
PS. My votes are for anesthesia & analgesia and anatomic pathology please and thank you
@@bigdaddy54345 i'm working on it! i got a ton of emails out to people that are friends of friends.
Fascinating and informative! Thanks!
This video brought to you by Purina and hills
Where's the affiliate link then 🤔
I love this video. Yeah it was a bit light on feline nutrition. I have to say though, I wish pet food companies (basically all of them) wouldn't advertise for fad dieting. If they want clients to feed good pet nutrition and put all this money into it they should be advocating for it and giving owners information in their ads. (Please don't tell me your dog is a wolf) etc. I shop for food and see shelves of grain free and no meat by-products. Nobody is talking about how (if your dog skippy really is a wolf,) it eats the viscera first which are the meat by-products! I feel like this lack of information then perpetuated by good pet food companies leads owners to be very adamant in their false knowledge. We need more of this and more openness about what ingredients in pet food really are and do for your pet.
Getting my chowchow as a new puppy on commercial wet dog food which was human grade good quality food but he had itchy skin, hot spots, ear problems head shaking, I put him on raw food and he was cured from these ailments. It was night and day, he miraculously recovered and started to thrive. He is nearly 4 now and hasn't had one problem since. He's a picture of health. All due to being fed a species appropriate diet. What about all the salmonella from kibble fed dogs, all the poisoning and food recalls. We have never been ill from raw feeding our dog in our household and we are not young. My parents regularly see him and they are in their 80's and 90's. No dental problems or impaction nor perforation if you feed appropriate raw meaty bones. Oh and most of us feed plenty of veg and fruit, soaked and ground seeds and nuts. Honestly this is a terrible video to listen to from so called intelligent people. You sound like you've been brain washed.so grains are good for dogs who have no need for carbohydrate in their diet. Corn is not bad you say, so why do most dogs get itchy from corn. .....educate yourself people.....
I will never feed toxic kibble. It isn't live food. Kibble has salmonella, fungi, and it can be stored for up to two years. Stop trying to fool people with this information. We aren't stupid. Handle raw biologically appropriate food just like you handle your own. Wash your hands after handling, common sense. This boring interview is not good. I've fed my dog raw since he was seven weeks old. He's eleven months now. He's healthy on raw. This interview just turned me off and I won't subscribe. Did kibble and canned exist one hundred years ago? Heck no! I'll stick to raw. I wanted to get more info on feeding but what I learned is that what you say here see not valid.
This is exactly right. In fact I think raw feeders are normally really educated in pet health and know exactly how to feed the dog in front of them a really healthy diet. God I've even got a spread sheet for meal prepping to make sure I'm getting nutrients right and feeding the right ratios for the dog in front of me, not that I think adult dog needs perfectly balanced meal every day and I certainly never fed my kids prepping with a spread sheet. I have a lot of recipes I've formulated for my dog so if I had to talk with my vet about diet I could show them a number of meal plans so they could see I was doing things properly. The terrible joke is.......that I may have to discuss with someone like this woman who thinks my dog should be eating crappy kibble, pure starchy carb stuff to my dog every day for best health. It's a bad joke and how an educated woman like this can keep a straight face when peddling this kibble is beyond me.
@@margsimpsonit’s because those companies fund education for such people so she’s their sales rep knowing or not knowing that
Dogs that get itchy from corn get itchy because they have an allergy to corn. That said, far more dogs are allergic to certain meats e.g. chicken, pork, beef, etc. than grains. Although many dogs do have wheat and barley allergies too.
If you recognise that your dog is allergic to a certain ingredient, avoid the ingredient. It is not rocket science. Your dog stopped becoming itchy because you stopped giving him the allergen (corn).
You mention carbs/grains are not required in a dogs diet, but neither is vitamin C. Dogs make it on their own (unlike humans and guinea pigs). But we still feed it anyway. Carbs are villainised BC they have a bad rep in human nutrition.The types of carbs matter, e.g. grains are better than pure carbs because they provide additional minerals, fibres and vitamins, whilst meating calorie requirements. They certainly do no harm .
And where did all the BS about vet schools being sponsored by hills come from 😂😂😂
Epilepsy normal nowadays from the flea chemicals.
Get a patient for life which will be short if it does not kill
them on the first dose.
Vets know this.
Please be an advocate for safeness.
Epilepsy is not normal from flea chemicals please educate yourself on epilepsy in pets and don’t spread misinfo.
This is amazing. I’m a registered nutritionist for humans! Raising my first fur baby and KNEW that the nutrition industry must be the same as the human one… I.e fighting fads and nutribollox all the time! This has really helped me in what I need to feed my baby without being sucked down the wrong path! Thankyou
Yup. The amount of pseudoscience in pet communities online is aggravating.
Starbucks coffee is wonderful. I tend to choose it over local coffee shops. That is a bad analogy.
When Nestle-Purina funds and provides the researchers for their food trials, that is called bias. The studies they produce are not high-quality, not replicated, and have huge conflicts of interest. These often have no control groups, low sample sizes, and short durations. In addition, these foods and ingredients go against all of the research we do actually know about feline nutrition. We know cats are obligate carnivores, and we know they eat primarily small mammals, such as mice, voles, and rabbits. Cats should be fed what they are evolutionarily designed to eat (or as close as possible). Big cats in zoos, such as lions, are fed foods such as ground horse meat and organs. Lions are not fed kibble or canned wheat gluten- and corn-diluted chicken byproducts.
It's interesting Dr. Lindsey Bullen is arguing about some of the research that has been published that contradicts the Hill's studies. She said these aren't high quality, for example, they compare apples to oranges, but that's not true. Most of these studies, that are not produced by Hill's employees, control for many factors. I can't say I've seen the same for the Hill's "research."
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""If there is an ingredient that doesn't have a purpose, like, it's not going to be in there, because every ingredient has a cost, and the companies are trying to figure out how to make the best product with the least amount of overhead so they can make money, right? So it doesn't make any sense to put something in there that doesn't have a nutritive function or a physiological function or medical function."
This is absolutely not true. The artificial colorings that are added to make kibbles a certain color (such as yellow, green, orange, etc.) are added so pet owners will like them and buy them, and that's a marketing technique. It's not for the benefit of the pet; it's for the benefit of the pet food company's wallets. She also mentions sugar as if sugar is fine to add because the pet food companies wouldn't add it if it wasn't good for the pet. Sugar is a cheap filler, and it's not nutritive for cats other than it being empty calories.
@@ZaryaTheLaika Sure, that's fair. Maybe Hill's doesn't add food colorings specifically, so maybe the pet food companies she's really referring to aren't adding food colorings. But my point still stands that a company, that is designed to make as much money as possible, absolutely has a lot to gain by adding things to foods that are not in the best interest of the pet.
For example, I just looked at the ingredients for one of Hill's foods for cats, and they added soybean oil. Yes, a cat needs to have a certain amount of fat in its diet, but why did they add soybean oil instead of chicken fat or a higher quality oil? I could wager a guess, and that would be that soybean oil is extremely cheap.
@@ZaryaTheLaika Not to be argumentative, but I'm not so certain that is correct. Phosphorous is commonly added to pet foods in the form of ingredients that end in phosphate. Calcium is also added.
Feline nutritionists who advocate for biologically-appropriate foods often identify corn gluten, wheat gluten, grains, and vegetables as "fillers," meaning they are added to reduce the cost to the pet food manufacturer.
There is a food called Wervua Wx, and it is low in phosphorous but contains none of these "fillers." It is primarily animal products and added vitamins/minerals. The only non-animal ingredient added is sunflower oil, which is a higher quality oil compared to soybean oil. Sunflower oil contains alpha-tocopherol, which is a better version of vitamin E than gamma-tocopherol, which is in soybean oil.
If it were true that animal ingredients contained too much phosphorus (leading to an inappropriate Ca:P ratio) and needed to be diluted by other ingredients, then this Weruva Wx food would not be able to be so low in phosphorous. Wervua does not remove the phosphorous that is already there in the meat; they simple ensure there is not too much bone added and don't add any phosphate ingredients. Wervua Wx foods are less than $2 per 3 oz can, whereas a 3 oz can of Royal Canin is slightly more.
I have been feeding my 2 year old malshipoo taste of the wild I found that this is high on dcm cases so I have wanted to change what are the top 5 dog brands that you would recommend? I'm so lost with so much research I have done and I'm just overwhelmed
The Doc mentioned that Royal Canin, Purina, and Hills are brands that check all the boxes for her!
Thank you for this 💝
Thank you for this interview!!! Wow. It is so refreshing to hear evidence-based information!!
Glad you liked it. Trying to do more with other specialists.
I just found your channel after searching dog nutrition and wasting about an hour on a lot of raw food nonsense lol. Great video, I hope to see more from you!
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey Dr. Cellini, a very basic and informative topic you have touched in this video. I would be glad if you can suggest some good books related to pet nutrition.
I'm not really sure about books per se, not my realm of expertise.
This was awesome content. Thanks. You guys covered dogs but did not mention cats much and since they are strict carnivores, I was wondering about the grain aspect in their diets since a lot of kitties end up with IBD and this may or may not be related to grains (I did not do my due diligence and look into the reputable vet litterature on this, nor have I consulted an ACVIM colleague, and I am feeding I/D to my cats due to one having some degree of triaditis in the past).
Great suggestion!
What happens when your dog snacks on road kill? Or an old hamburger on the side of a road?.... Dogs eat weird things and should not put their mouths on your face... Also, kibble has been known to have salmonella . Who doesn't clean well after a dog poops? I don't think we expect poop to be safe or clean. She is very personable and sharted off strong and then began losing footing fast... Didn't she say she is doing work for the dog food industry? It's funny that dog owners can't seem to make food for own their pets. They HAVE to purchase it from the dog food industry. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a youtube video like this that actually helped people create healthy homemade meals? What if Pediatricians decided that breast milk was NOT best and that all children should use formula. And next human children should only eat industry prepared baby food because homemade food is way too complicated for the parents to make and messing up the recipe could cause detrimental effects to the child. No nutritional advice or meal plans will be offered by the human healthcare industry. The food will come in a box, bag or can. I'm sad that she has such a fine education and great potential and has wasted it on supporting the pet food industry.
Wow! Great thinking on that! You are so right! I'll stick to my raw real food for my dog. His vet doesn't care to do a titer test because he too healthy. I guess I should stick to raw!
So needing this!!! Thank you!!!
You're so welcome!
She’s awesome. Loved this video, thanks Doc!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is an amazing an informative video, thank you! So many people would rather trust the advice of a “certified pet nutritionist” who only has a few weeks of “education” compared to a veterinary doctor who had to go through 4+ years of school, 2-3 years of residency, and then board certification. But okay trust the people with the online certificate of you want😂
Ok but she went through all that school, just to in the end recommend kibbles from top 3 brands.
So you really don't need nutritionist to feed the dog what you already would and most people do...
@@BlackMambaKO Exactly!
Plus the big pharma is writing the books the Doctors to be are learning from (vet. and human medicine), so what do you think the Doctor's to be will recommend for their clients later on? 😉 it's all a big business and it's not about health! Healthy clients are not good for the business.
Everybody needs to watch this video. Easy to follow but still extremely informative... Can we get a video on commen sense with dogs during the summer... I see alot of dummies roasting pup in cars 🙄
everybody does need to watch this video.
I got a Doberman pincher ( European ) and I gave him dry dog food ( wellness core ) and raw food every day I gave some dry food ( 1 cup ) and raw food in the afternoon and his doing great , but some owner will give there dog only dry food
Thank you for this!
Thanks so much for having Dr. Bullen on--finally some straight forward, useful info! I hope Dr. B. will consider creating her own YT channel. We need educators debunking myths.
Hey doc - new grad vet here, great video. Loved this idea
Thank you! Best of luck with your career.
Excellent video. I totally needed this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If someone wants to make homemade dog food ( *cooked* dog food I mean) where should they go to make sure they are balancing it properly? I assume they would consult a veterinary nutritionist right? Is this something they can do virtually or should they only work with someone in person?
They can do phone consults a lot of the time I’m pretty sure. Can always find one and ask!
Yes you can do it via internet, zoom etc, or on the phone. There's loads of info on how to provide home prepared whole food for your dog, just do your research first, don't be lazy on this aspect because there is lots of bad info out there, like this lindsey bullen telling people to feed junk pet food kibble and telling people there is nothing to avoid when choosing a pet treat, she says everything in treats is OK even all the sugars. Now wonder theres so many fat diabetic dogs out there. There's good books and bad books, same as good nutritionists and bad. , Don't go by you tube videos and Internet until you've done your research so you at least know the basics so you can root out the good from the rubbish. After you are enlightened to the basics then you tube is pretty good for a free source of info. There is plenty of free information out there to use once you have researched the basics. Good on you wanting to look into feeding your pet real whole food. You'll see a huge difference in your pet once you start feeding a whole food diet. At least you are realising that the companies like hills diet plan, royal canin, purina and the likes are total crap and whole real food is the way to go. I am quite sickened by lots of the stuff that has come out of lindsey bullens mouth in this interview. The guy seems an OK guy and seemed to keep pretty quiet during the whole video, makes me wonder if he actually agreed with much of what she was saying or he realised she was giving a talk for the candy companies who produce the crappy kibble that they try to convince people of being good food for our pets.
This was super helpfu!! We’ll be welcoming a baby malchi (maltese/chihuahua) in about 4 more weeks and I’ve been doing research nonstop 😫😫 this definitely gave me some hope!! It’s so confusing at times
Glad it was helpful! Interviewing her again today to ask more questions!
Though what I am getting raw food diet isnt recommended not because it's bad but because the risk of disease is higher and it already hard enough to find decent kibble but to find raw food manufacturers who are safe is harder and if not successful dangerous. With kibble is easier to source and buy and with low risk of getting a serious disease from it or bacteria. I also know that with people who do raw food they easily through of the balance and it gets really expensive. So for the raw food discussion I think if there was a trusted raw food manufacturer it would be fine right. I came to this channel form emozotic who was doing raw diet with her dog called wefeedraw and it looked like a good deal. But I wanted to learn more before I bought it this helps a lot thanks.
thank you so much for this comment. i'm happy to see content like mine helping people make a rational, sound choice.
Raw has greater risks and no real evidence of being better (no peer reviewed, all 'evidence' people cite is just anecdotal). No reason to do it. It's popular bc it seems more 'natural'.
@@DM-ql6ps I know this I was considering raw because my dog doesnt like kibble and only eats a little to the point he was getting underweight I took him to the vet and he was fine he just wasnt eating. Before he was eating soft food as he was still a puppy then I switch him to kibble but he hated it so I tried to switch him back to soft food but It gave him diarrhea. So I have been cycling through kibble brands to find one he like but also are good for him. So I thought about raw feeding maybe he'd take more to it but it I did try it after this video but the up keep and the price of raw was really too much for me so I just started rewarding him when he eats his food I would give him a treat when he finished his bowl of food. Later I found a brand he liked enough to eat without treats but he would still occasionally not eat and I would have to give him a treat. Honestly raw feeding is a nuisance it sloppy and gross and the tar that builds up on your dogs teeth is horrible I had to brush his teeth every day to get rid of his breath and tar.
@@chimchimbiasedwreckedbyjin4056I've been feeding my dog raw since he was seven weeks old. He is a large breed. His teeth are so white, I don't have to worry about tar build up. Raw soup bones are good for that. Raw chicken bones ect. Dr Ian billinghurst, Dr Karen Becker, and other excellent vets. My dog is eleven months old and weighs one hundred fifty pounds. I wanted a titer test to find any lack of nutrients in his blood but his vet said he's too healthy for that. His vet knows he's on raw. I had a rescue and he was in bad shape when I took him to the vet. After a few months on raw I took him back and they asked me if I had gotten another dog. They were so surprised when I told them no. He became a healthy dog after feeding him raw. He had whole body inflammation before going on raw. The poor pup didn't look good and he wasn't happy before switching him to raw.
Royal Canine and Dog Chow are two brands she mentioned that do fine for dogs. Her focus is saying to buy from reputable manufacturers. This seems super sensible. Also, I wish someone would make human food like dog foods. It would save me so much money and time.
Have you heard of Huel. ? Basically same. It's not colorful and pretty, but it's a powdered shake that is nutritionally complete for humans.
any vet that can condone feeding your pet this (Whole Grain Corn, Meat And Bone Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Beef Fat Naturally Preserved With Mixed-Tocopherols, Soybean Meal, Poultry By-Product Meal, Chicken, Egg And Chicken Flavor, Whole Grain Wheat) scares me.
@@liifesaverr Why does that scare you? A lot of those ingredients are nasty and have no nutritional value. My dog and cat both were sick when feeding foods with those ingredients especially corn. Every dog is different
@@xxviciousbeautyxx I said any vet that can condone feeding that to your pet scares me.
This nutritionist's definition of "fine" is different from mine. I want my dog completely asymptomatic. I don't want my dog to be a "medical lemon", like calling him that suddenly makes it ok. The reason they don't make human foods like pet food is because it would quickly and very painfully become obvious that it's not possible to cram all the nutrient needs of human into a hard brown ball to be eaten everyday. Do you think that hasn't been tried? Of course it has! It doesn't work in humans OR dogs. We'd know if we ate something like that everyday how miserable we would feel. We don't feel what dogs feel when they eat this garbage day in and day out, so as long as we're assured by these industry reps that it's "fine", we're ok with it. It's shameless commercialism, pure and simple.
Question I have always wondered of the 10 essential amino acids, in what quantities does a dog need, is there a specific amount they need, a certain amount of milligrams per amino?
boss i'm sorry i have no idea that's why i defer to experts like dr. bullen with stuff like this.
@@DVMCellini thank you
Yes, Google the NRC recommendations for the same.
My childhood dog, a beagle, would eat grapes off the vine growing in our yard. She lived to be 15 and was healthy her whole life
Such a good watch! She’s such an educated person and I wish people weren’t so hesitant to listen to her and other board certified veterinary nutritionists, there’s too many “pet nutritionists” out there claiming they know everything
who funds the education? pet food companies. It's not difficult to see the indoctrination if you follow the money. What is the most important thing in a homicide investigation? Motive, and the ultimate motive is money. This vet is crazy if she thinks kibble isn't extremely processed inflammatory convenience food. Personally I eat a whole food plant based diet, and my dog eats a raw carnivore diet with a sprinkling of plant based super foods like sprouts and turmeric etc.
She’s not. She’s recommending the worst of the worst. Purina
@@matta6298 dude Agreed! This chick should actually be fired. Recommending Purina
Brain washed .... or being paid really well by these huge pet food company. Thank god I am feeding my dog myself and not taking any notice of these two. What is a shame is loads of people are listening to these two. Look at all the thank you comments...wake up people, start feeding you dogs real meat, whole foods, the exact thing your dog and cats are designed to eat, not this junk food that these two are into...as she keeps saying, her jam, her jam is to make sure your dog doesn't live healthy for many years.
It’s crazy how wide misinformation about dog food has spread. False claims are found in so many places people just believe it, even though it has no evidence for the claims!! Sadly I was there too, before I dived into the evidence based world of nutrition information after hearing about nutritional DCM. I’m back to feeding grains (I chose Eukanuba) and my dogs gut health haven’t been better in so long!!
Misinformation is that dogs need grains.
I loved this podcast but I think the guest provided anecdotes to discredit the popular anecdotes of raw feeders, which kinda left me without a solid answer. I wanted to know if she treated any dogs had come in sick or underdeveloped because of raw feeding practices, or if there has been an increase in malnourished dogs because of raw feeding.
Scrolled through the comments and Dr. C noticed it too
Man i was so invested in this video until she recommended Hills Science Diet and Purina >_
This is an insanely honest, realistic, accurate, informative video and for the benefit of our dogs I hope people absorb this
thank you for saying that. i hope to do more interviews of similar quality with different specialists in the future.
@@DVMCellini Think she works for Nestle or Mars. She advocates dogs eat processed food.
How is that good???????
how is it bad
@@DVMCellini Only a mistrained medical professional would have to ask that.
Guess I'm "mistrained" then.
The public health risks associated with raw diets is something I'd half forgotten about; I need to remember this when talking to clients.
Veterinary nutrition is a fascinating subject, thanks for posting!
When we cook meats for ourselves, we run the risk of touching salmonella as well. Common sense, wash hands after handling any raw foods biologically appropriate raw for our pets AND raw meats for ourselves. I feed raw, I wash my hands. I cut up raw chicken for cooking, I wash my hands. Wow, must take a rocket scientist to figure out out!
That's just a scare tactic! Are you afraid to handle your raw meat😂
Are you kidding? Kibble for cats is the worst. Kidney problems in 3 of my cats fed kibble, dying before age 10. 4th kitten, I fed wet food and lived to age 19 years.
The proof is in the pudding. Your kitties were on kibble and it wasn't good for their health
This comment 👏🏽👏🏽
Immediately lost me when she said to feed Purina, Hills and RC. No way!
Paid shill~vet schooling is sponsored by those companies as well
I was thinking the exact same
This video feels like propaganda
Im a cat person. I feed her Hills, Blue, Royal Canin. I was going to try Smalls...vet told me to stay with her current diet. As a treat, shes fed Tiki kibble and canned (once a week).
You are saying its ok to give dogs sugar as there are no ingredients to avoid in pet treats, OMG . cannot believe you said this. Pet treats are often terrible for our pets. Dog treats full of rendered fats, nasty by products.
My advice to pet parents feeding junk food to there pets is to Phone up the likes of hills, science plan, royal canin. Ask where they source there chicken. They wont be able to answer, use that as your first question, then ask some more. Ask about their feeding trials.....open your eyes people. A supposed balanced diet full of synthetic vitamins and minerals and these two people think this is great. You wouldnt feed your kids like that, so why feed your fur kids with junk food daily, kibble i am talking about but wet food is nearly as bad.
Agree with everything that you said.🐕
One of the many reasons I make my own dog treats. Nothing but pure dehydrated lean muscle/organ meat.
I’ve really enjoyed watching and learning from this lady.
Great convo
What do you think of Dr becker, and her organizations work on pet nutrition?
From what I can tell she’s the vet equivalent of the random physician joe rogan finds and presents as the dissenting opinion.
@@DVMCellini Pretty sure the question was aimed at finding out what you think of the information she shares, not for a comparison to another YT celeb. Personally, I don't like how complicated she makes raw feeding but you have to grant that there must be a reason why she has such a huge following. People are hungering for information they're not getting from the conventional veterinary establishment.
@@DVMCellini great reply!
thanks boss. your channel is great btw
@@DVMCellini lol! I couldn’t have said that better myself! You and this nutritionist are a breath of fresh air on UA-cam!
Raw diet is what wild dogs would eat. Perfect for optimal performance in the wild. However, there is no free lunch, pun intended. This comes at the cost of a shorter lifespan. Wild dogs don't have a long lifespan. Not saying dog food is better, but cooked meat is definitely easier to digest and provides all the benefits
And cooking removes most pathogens as well!
Wild canids have a shorter lifespan because they actually have to hunt for their dinner and often die of injuries related to bringing down animals up to 10x their own weight. If they are lucky enough to survive until they start to slow down due to old age, they starve. With the exception of large sea mammals, no animal lives as long in the wild as it does in captivity; herbivores included.
I just subribed to, The Dog Nutrionist. He recommends Bella and Duke raw dog food. It has everything a dog needs nutritionally. I will order this food because he recommended it. I agree with his principles
Great Video!
Thanks!
This was super interesting!
Thanks for this interview. I appreciate the information. I wanted to look at the transcript, and it is in Italian. I turn off the Italian, but it keeps turning back on. Weird. Also, Is there a reason you are selling bitcoin on this channel? That seems so sketchy!
I've given my dog Australian made kibble his whole life. He is 9 now. The last time we went to the vet they actually said "he is extremely healthy, whatever you're doing, keep doing that." We go on adventures all the time, drove around Australia over a year. 1 hour + walk every day. He usually gets a carrot each day as a snack and sometimes a dog toothbrush. He is a labradoodle, so full of life, happy and healthy. I wish humans had the equivalent of dog food lol. A nutritionally balanced diet with everything you need in 2 handfuls.
Nice 😊
Well there is this company called huel that I think kind of does that
@UCBAE-bADEixoBMEp8P_FPUA I've recently been to the vet since and they said the same thing. Haha. He is 10 in December. I got him thus toothbrush toy that's made of bamboo fibre, omg it's taken years off his teeth. Even the vet was like "his teeth are great for his age." Highly recommended. It's a hard material that almost looks like plastic.
My granny was a chain smoking junk food eating old girl who had an alcoholic beverage most days. She lived till she was 83, she was just lucky, not healthy. If she'd been healthy she may of lived age over 100. You think 9 is a great age for your dog, there lies a problem. In the 50's 60's 70's when many people still fed whole food to their dog's they had labs that lives to 18, 20, shepherd's lived till 16, 17 yrs old and passed away from old age not some nasty diesease.
Thank you! Always great to hear from real experts in a field instead of pseudoscience crowd
I wouldn’t call 20 years of feeding raw and dogs living to their late teens with minimal vet intervention required is a myth or pseudoscience.
Is it possible to do a cat version of this? I've never had a dog in my life, I've just had cats all my life
i was planning on doing a 2nd interview with her now that its been almost a year, so we'll touch on that if it happens
Yes. Felines, please.
The cat pacing back and forth in the background looks hungry :)
Me feeding my dogs raw chicken and being like 😬 but then she mentioned if the chicken is homegrown and slaughtered is fine, so im good (well actually my dogs are good) 🤗 #farmlife
she knows what she's talking about :)
@@DVMCellini No, she doesn't. I've been feeding grocery store chicken to dogs for 25 years and have NEVER experienced any of the scary things she's using to frighten people away from raw feeding. She's representing an industry, pure and simple.
@@noralenz376 oh yeah, your anecdotal evidence from the 10 dogs you have had in your lifetime for sure trumps the the peer reviewed studies of thousands of animals that this board certified veterinary specialist has studied. Not to mention her years of schooling and thousands of animals that she’s seen in practice to get to her position. 🙄
@@BritBit89 We're supposed to be afraid of something that never happened to someone who fed raw to 10 dogs over a 20 year period? That also allows dogs to live to age 19 and beyond without vet visits?Either I've been extraordinarily lucky,, or it's the pet sickness for profit industry that really has something to fear.
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What do you feed your dog dr.
Hills science diet
If we ignore her title and only focus on her arguments, they seem weak and don't make any sense.
Investing in research doesn't mean your pet food is healthy and it definitely doesn't mean you're not focused in marketing.
Second, if certain vitamins degrade with heat in a kibble, can synthetic supplements replace them without any issue? Certainly not, according to mice and human studies. Real food is preferable to synthetic supplements.
Yeah! Synthetic "food" and Synthetic nutrients. Not on the band wagon with this one. I'll stick to what's best, raw.
Absolutely. Dr. Bullen is perfectly integrated into the WSAVA cult.
Lol but why would you ignore the title. Personally, i am here to learn a hopefully fairly neutral, science based opinion on dog food and who better to give that than a vet. If you just came to have your biases confirmed, no wonder you dont believe her.
@@Dahlily That's not what happened here. OP said if you ignore that she's a vet (ignoring the authoritative bias), then you clearly see her information is not rooted in any kind of good science. Her argument is basically that these companies research their own food (which is biased research) and the food seems to be good enough, so she trusts it, so you should, too. This is basically just her opinion on the matter, and it's what she knows. It's what she's been taught. She hasn't offered any good arguments at all. If you want the expertise of a different veterinarian, you could look up Dr. Judy Morgan or Dr. Karen Becker.
Great video!!!
Someone help me. My dog has stage four kidney disease. What do i do? Im sick to my stomach
What is the best food to feed Chihuahua from puppy to senior ?
Raw or home cooked. Find “the dog nutritionist” channel
Can't believe she is recommending grain based dog food, maybe they have all the right supplements added back in, to make them 'balanced', but dogs are supposed to eat meat, like us. Eat a diet of cheap, ultra processed, fortified cereals for life and you end up a patient sooner rather than later, better for vets and pet food manufacturers.
So rich video thanks
My cat sleeps with me, is that ok? She puts her head on my pillow.
I like Alpo dog food. It's available in dry kibble, canned, and packaged soft food. I grew up on it, so I figure its ok for my dog. The can said its made with high-quality ingredients, gives your dog 100% complete and balanced nutrition. It is also doesn't cost a lot.
How about the food coloring it contains?
By the way a service dog doesn't go visit a children hospital, she meant to say therapy dog.
Thanks for posting. I learnt a lot. Royal Canin does not have such a good reputation in UK. Dr Bullen has made me think again.
It doesn't really have a good reputation here either because of the ingredients
Pretty sure it does have a good reputation
@@DVMCellini I stand corrected 🤣
Feed royal canin if you want your dog to have a short life filled with vet visits.
@@nibunion Untrue; Royal Canin is backed by science and research. Most conformation and performance dogs are fed one of two brands: Royal Canin or Purina.
Ugh my Husky has a broken tooth from a raw soup bone. He has an appointment Saturday to have his tooth removed. Never again will I feed raw bones. He is in so much pain. 😢
i'm sorry! wish him the best.
Yeah you should have done some research soup bones are not a good option, wings feet and necks are good.
NO LINDSEY BULLEN, I DO NOT FEED smelly meat to my dog. The meat i feed to my dog comes from a well known slaughter house. Its fresh from the slaughted animal, still has lots of lovely blood with it, AS YOU SHould know the blood is really healthy for my dog. So dont go and state that raw fed pets are fed smelly meat which has gone off, you state this around the 28 minute mark. I live in the uk and we are seeing the truth in this country, people are turning to raw feeding or freeze dried food for their pets in droves. At least when this happens in the usa you wont be making so much money from your candy companies to promote their junk food anymore cos no one will be listening.
Awsome... Does she feed smelly meat to people after she cooks it. Firstly, the meats do not smell unless it's bad or rotten. I'm sure those that love their pets don't feed smeely meats. They feed good non rotten meats.
"Carbs aren't bad" but they do cause hyperinsulinimia 😅
Dr. Cellini will you please discuss the Nikki Phillippi situation and how they euthanized their dog? Please.
I don’t know what that is however I will look it up and see!
@@DVMCellini here is a good article www.today.com/today/amp/tdna217826 the couple also lied about contacting the humane society. I would like to hear your stance on having a healthy dog put down just based on an owner claiming the dog nipped their child for the child taking the dogs food. I’ve talked to almost 10 vets the last few days and every single one told me they go down every road possible and always avoid euthanasia. Looking forward to your thoughts if you decide to share them. Thank you.
Can you recommend some well rounded nutritional kibble?
Hold up...those 2 dogs?? What breed...perfect size to join my lil man!