Solka’s sexism arc in the original doesn’t seem controversial to me. If you look at his life through Sokka’s eyes his views are completely reasonable. He grew up in a tribe as the son of the warrior leader of the tribe. His tribe exclusively had male warriors which was even even more crucial since they no longer had waterbenders. Could the women have fought, maybe but we can’t deny in extreme circumstances people naturally revert to the gender roles and these were definitely extreme circumstances. Someone had to stay and raise the kids and that would naturally be the women/moms. So Sokka growing up in a culture of only male warriors and female nurturers means he’s going to think that’s what all men and women do. Once he’s confronted with the truth he quickly changes tune. That’s commendable being capable of having your mind changed is a good character trait of Sokka’s and it’s a huge part of his character arc in Book 1. I’d be disappointed if it’s not somewhat apart of the live action.
I recently rewatched the entire show and the kyoahi island a bit feels off to me . The Island is quite singular for having a group of fighting women AND ONLY Fighting WOMEN . No man to be seen near any weapon whatsoever . It made me wonder, "where are the men" ? I know that a huge portion of the male population is fisherman (or have other jobs) , but aren't there at least one who can fight? Suki even accepted to teach Sokka , an outsider (although traveling with the avatar himself), how to fight . Suggesting that they are not opposed to teaching and taking men , but this also suggestes that men on kyoshi island purposefully DON'T want to join the fighting force And that they would rather hide in their houses in case of an attack and let young girls fight than participate in any shape or form . Making them look like probably the most coward people in the avatar universe (close to Yon Ra and chin the conqueror villagers level of cowardice) , at least in my eyes . (This episode seems like it tries to beat sexism with another type of sexism)
This comment is 🎯 I said many times if they lean too much into the “woke” modern pandering, the show would be ruined. But I’m still hoping I’m proven wrong 😑 although this is a huge red flag. 🚩
the Sokka part is so sad, because this is actually how the message is DONE RIGHT - show the audience how sexist beliefs are stupid, instead of having the character be morally righteous from the get-go. I'm so sad about this change.
💯 unfortunately the producers are worried about offending the snowflakes. I think they will still include some of that Sokka sexist beliefs just in a more lighthearted way. If that's even possible LOL
@@Sunshainn Please don‘t get it twisted. The original show is also woke as shit. These writers, so far, just seem to be worse at conveying the messages than the original ones. Though I hope to be wrong, show‘s not out yet I suppose.
The copium is real with the Sokka situation. The sexism was probably my favorite trait of his because there are very little works in media that activelly show characters admiting they are wrong and growing from their mistakes. It's always only ever the villains that are shown to have those traits only for them to be defeated. Teaching young boys that it's okay to admit you're wrong and grow from it is not a bad thing and I hate that they took that away in the live action.
I too am enjoying a lot of copium in regards to this show. I think it was a reallly good arc to have in the original but who knows it mike work in the live action
idk why people require this so much from Sokka. I always felt like his sexism was so out of pocket and weird. It was a barrier for me to liking him ngl. I don't think it's integral to his character in any way. When I think of Sokka, I don't think of his sexism, but rather his humour and play-boy attitude lol. I don't mind them removing it at all, there's other ways that Sokka has grown throughout the series.
@@ZeallustImmortal That doesn't really change anything for me. I don't think his sexism is or should be a key part of his personality. I think it was just placed there because it was a different time and you could get away with it. You could also probably still showcase his ignorance/naivety and his changing beliefs on gender without some of his unsavory remarks.
dude you really deserved those shout outs! I'm so happy to see that the cast and staff members recognises someone from the fandom side! I cannot wait to see the series already.
"The casual outfits in this show are just straight fire." He says, as he presents a shot of Fire Lord Ozai and Azula. The pun isn't lost on me, good sir!
There is one thing I don't like at all from all the pictures and trailers that we got. And that is that Zuko never looks angry. And Zuko being and acting angry in S1 is extremely important for his character and it ties with lots of important scenes later. It's conected to him not being able to create lightining, the mountaintop scene, the beach scene, him losing his powers in s3, etc. I worry that having Azula and Ozai in S1 will put Zuko in the victim role right from the start (he should enter thar role in s2). That would be killing one of the best written character arcs ever. Zuko must be the main antagonist in S1. The audience must hate him in s1 for his arc to work.
I agree. None of the clips I've seen seem to really represent Zukos character well. Hoping they are just the quieter/less talkative segments and we get a lot more of that rage from him. If not his character is a bit lost/pointless to some degree. Especially with Azula and Ozai in this season. Im also going to be very disappointed if they have removed Sokka's sexist attitude. That is a HUGE character building plot point for him, just like Zukos rage is. Along with Aangs silliness.
@@OhHeyItsShey Oh. Well, I wouldn't mind if they get rid of that. I mean, it is a very minor thing in Sokka, that only lasts until he meets Suki in ep4, right? Also, we know the southern water tribe is not sexist as the northern one is (that's why the old bloodbender lady moved there). And Sokkas father doesn't seem to be like the sexist type. So it is kind of out of place for him to be sexist to begin with (like who did he learn that from?)
One of the points of relief from the video interview was Dallas dropping that spoiler that Zuko and Katara fight on Kyoshi Island, so those worries about how maybe it's just Zhao who invades Kyoshi Island and Zuko doesn't are gone.
I think it makes more sense this way because zhao knows about the avatar. Why would he wait and give Zuko a chance he supposed to be Zuko’s rival so it makes sense that he beats Zuko to it but Zuko gets there a little late and calls us a little bit of chaos
@@dresdenwarlock7978 maybe but I feel like zhao would get information faster than Zuko he has more resources plus from the trailers. It looks like he’s the first one there almost like he’s bargaining with them and nothing seems to be going wrong with the group but it could happen either way
@@blakelandry9313Maybe, but I feel like since Zhao followed Zuko once or twice in the animated series that it isn't out of character for him to do exactly that in live action
Im very worried about them removing sokkas sexism, that was a significant part of his character development throughout the series, and it feels like they're just doing it to virtue signal how progressive they are without actually understanding WHY he was that way, and if this is the precident that they set then im worried for the whole show
I personally think there's still SOME there, but it's dialed down a little. Maybe instead of going all in on "women are better at cooking and cleaning" it's just "men are better fighters" and that's it, and he learns just how wrong he is. They said "I feel like we took out the element of HOW sexist Sokka is" and not "he isn't sexist at all" and I think those are different, but we'll see.
A behind the scenes with the producers of the Netflix Avatar the last airbender show on youtube that I found by chance, as a result of the new trailer dropping, the day the new trailer dropped, revealed that in designing the costumes, the Netflix producer noted that the waves, ripples, swirling water, and patterns of water changing state are found on the clothing of waterbenders like Katara, while non-benders of the water tribe like Sokka have fixed geometries in the patterns of their water tribe clothing. The waves on Katara’s water tribe outfit indicate she is a waterbender. The Triangles / fixed geometry of Sokka’s water tribe outfit indicate he is a non-bender. According to some behind the sceenes each tribe has clothing that indicate bender or non-bender for water, earth and fire. (All airbenders are benders intrinsically). The producer said “…watch for it, even in earth kingdom, and fire nation outfits, benders and non-benders will be indicated by distinguishable clothing patterns connected to the appropriate bending element, or fixed static patterns (I.e. not all fire nation soldiers are firebenders) if one is paying attention.” It is a new aspect/detail that the producers / costume designers added as an Easter Egg. It also helped distinguish on set bending actors/actresses from non-bending actors/actresses to assist in keeping the choreography and appropriate actions consistent for individual scenes.
I definitely agree with your take on the idea of changing out Sokka's sexism arc- I hope we'll still get our deeply thought out characters but time will tell I guess
@5:30 I’m thinking this is pulled from the scene of the gang on the pirate ship. It kind of looks like they’re in a store and their facial reactions match what they had in the original. Aang in a happy mood, Katara nervous because she just stole the water scroll, Sokka kind of neutral. Also we know the water scroll scene happens because of the Katara short 12 second video where she is looking at a water bending scroll. As far as I know the pirates haven’t been confirmed for the story but the water bending scroll looks like it is.
Honestly the fact that "the whole cast" watches you gives me more hope than anything up to this point (I was already pretty optimistic). Just the fact that they seem to care so much about the source material and their fans is enough, but the fact that it's YOU just makes it better. It's easy to get caught up in emotions when it comes to shows that meant a lot to us, and definitely has a nostalgia factor, but right from the get go, you have given such measured and objective takes on everything that has been revealed over time along with very constructive criticisms, and very reasonable expectations. Speaking of expectations, I love that you understand that this will not be a 1:1 retelling and that creative liberties will have to be taken to take full advantage of the difference strengths/weakness' of the different mediums (animation Vs. live action) and honestly I agree, as you have said in previous videos, that a 1:1 retelling would be boring! At the end of the day, I'm looking for a faithful adaptation that respects the overall feel, themes, and message from the original!
Love how you added the detail of him being sexist being a part of his character, Sometimes people can be too “peoplepleasy” and end up ruining something that was just fine as it was.
Yeah, its disappointing to know that they removing Sokka's sexism. It is part of how he become a humble and respectful person towards everyone since he got humbled by the kyoshi warriors. I'm worried for sokka's character development in the live action series.
@@curryis828 yeah, he can. But him being sexist then changed to be a better person is important to show that when you're wrong does not mean you are evil and it is part of how his culture and environment shaping hia sexism. It shows that sexism is wrong. If the show doesn't explore that, then there is nothing to learn.
Sokka's sexism was one of the tiny character arcs that did matter. Not only was it a good lesson to teach the audience but it also shows Sokka's growth as a character. He travels the world and grow admiration towards the people he encounter, both men and woman. His change of views shows that he's no longer that narrow minded, egotistic guy living off in a tiny village that we met on the first episode.
You deserve the shout outs, you're my favorite avatar account. You manage to be fair when appraising new content, which I think is important, it's good to not be unnecessarily negative even when you have doubts. You also point out so many things I wouldn't have realized otherwise.
The book that Aang is reading / holding could be the cloud reading book. I hope it is because I think it would be super cool to watch Team Avatar take on a volcano.
I think Azula and Ozai's arc is going to be them planning their invasion of Omashu which is something I have been hoping for since hearing Azula was going to be more prevalent. This feels even more evident considering that the Mechinest is going to be in Omashu instead of the Northern Air Temple. I kinda wonder if they are going to tweak how the fire nation find out about his tech like maybe they go the more realistic route of finding his inventions or maybe he is in Omashu because it is the only place he thinks is safe from the fire nation and part of Azula and Ozai's motive for taking Omashu has to do with getting their hands on the Mechinest. Also possible Azula, Mai, and Ty-Lee could have a plan to infiltrate Omashu and kidnap the Mechinest, further explaining why Bumi surrendered and help setup the tension between Mai, Ty-Lee, and Azula and explain why Mai family is the ones in charge of Omashu.
1. Rushes to watch The Avatarist's video 2. Goes to Netflix's channel to go watch these clips 3. Comes back to get the link where I knew it would be Every single time
I'm very sure that the image where aang looks amazed and katara more concerned is from "the waterbending scroll" on the pirate ship. Honestly surprised you didn't see it. and so is probably the image of iroh and zuko. you know, with the stone money face
Gordon Cormier if ur seein this don’t try so hard to separate urself from Aang just soak it in, you’ll age into other roles in the blink of an eye so be authentic and trust the process!! good work sir we rooting for u AIGHT
Yeah, Sokka's sexism is also portrayed different than the sexism in the Northern water tribe and that means a lot. The show did a great example on how 'ignorant sexism' can easily be overcome by the truth Sokka discovers, but 'taught sexism', like if part of a tradition/culture, is much more harder to beat in which KATARA discovers. They BOTH beat it though is the point. They shouldn't remove it from the show, but just be careful about it. I think that's what they did though. Hopefully 😅 Edit: Btw the one who beats the hardest one, was a woman (Katara) which furthers reaffirms Sokka's lesson about women by seeing his sister be not only top of the class but also a prodigy and a waterbending -master's favorite student. Trust that if they don't portray sexism to beat with Sokka they'll do it with the northern watertribe. If not? They have failed entirely to see the lesson in the show. Which would be.... dissapointing-BUT I have high hopes! 😭❤️ The show has many other lessons.
i think the image of the trio is from the waterbending scroll + pirates episode and i can bet my life that so is the clip of zuko vs katara, it'll make no sense for zuko and jet to meet cause that's a change way too bigger for the s2 plot
The picture of the gaang with different expressions could be the pirate shop with the water bending scroll? But mechanist like you said makes sense too. Either way, I’m so ready for it to be out!
I do speak mandarin, but hardly read/write. But that is traditional with the writing vertical instead of horiztonal! Love the videos so much, and the shout-out is so well deserved for the content you put out for all of us!
Traditional Chinese is up down, right to left. Based on the letter ending with shorter sentences on the left side, I'd say bravo to the design team for putting that in 😍
@balrog8moriab8m85 it makes better sense to be traditional Chinese in the way it is written since it is in ancient setting. The best part about the original series is that these Chinese sentences makes sense. They became sort of like Easter eggs for Chinese audiences. Some of the sentences and paragraphs are beautifully written like poetry I recall I was impressed that even an American cartoon can get it right. I learned from somewhere they actually hired a language expert from Taiwan for these. I hope netflix continued will that too.
3:30 and on, it could be chinese hanzi or it could be japanese kanji. Fire nation is supposed to emulate feudal japan so likely it's japanese kanji, whereas the earth kingdom is supposed to be a more chinese and korean inspired.
I understand toning down sexist Sokka makes sense, as stuff that's funny when animated can be really cringe in live action; but I hope it's just toned down and not gone. Sokka learning to not be a douche was a very good message that's particularly relevent nowadays, it would be a missed opportunity to skip it entirely.
They don't need to redo this. Just make it live action. That's it. Don't make it modern. Keep the sexism. Keep the classism. Keep all the isms. It's part of their growth.
As a practitioner of Northern Longfist, we don't really do the "Kamehameha" hand movement. I really hope that the martial arts are what they are supposed to be
Sokka starts out thinking men and women exist, but gets corrected by the Kiyoshi warriors to understand that those are fictional social constructs created by the oppressive patriarchy and that men can get pregnant.
sokka's sexism was never problematic... it's always portrayed as a negative trait and a significant part of his character growth is learning he's wrong.
Netflix loves changing things that don’t need to be changed. Taking away Aang’s side quests is how he preserved his childhood and escaped the responsibilities. And changing a characters beliefs that shaped their development in future makes no sense. This is why the original creators left.
To me that doesn't read as Sokka not being sexist at all, and more like he's not going to be as overtly sexist. A toning down, not a total rewrite. More "Men are strong" energy as opposed to "Girls are weak."
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I get that they're terrified of making Sokka sexist, as it could turn away a lot of new viewers, but it absolutely makes sense for him to be sexist at the beginning, given the culture and circumstances he grew up in. And given how quickly he was humbled, I never saw it as too much of an issue. I hope they'll at least compensate it with his arrogance.
While I’m a bit dissspointed about Sokka character change i kinda understand also cuz the way they pry rated his sexism was very black and white and juvenile. It worked for a kids cartoon but irl i don’t think it’d translate as well. I do hope they maybe still keep the element of machismo he had in the beginning to still keep part of the character while still refining it for an older audience,
You can be sexist and have the same learning curve without having the "men's rights" Sokka from season 1. Also wouldn't mind if they toned down a bit of Iroh's creep factor which was the only aspect of the character I found baffling in the show.
The beautifully thing about Avatar is that all the characters start off flawed but learn more balanced perspectives throughout their journey. Aang accepting growing up, Zuko living for himself rather than others, Katara letting go of control, Toph learning to accept help and Sokka learning to be humble and leaning into his strengths. Undoing any of these major character arcs would be a poor decision IMO
Sigh… this was my biggest fear with this show. I was afraid they would make it for “modern times”… aka, full of bullshit that’s making countless other shows and movies flop. Hopefully this is all they did, and they didn’t add on a ton of stupid modern political messaging.. because if they did, Netflix is going to, unfortunately, lose a lot of money with this show.
the fact that they did this, proves the show will be shit. this is why i prefer they never made live action. this woke bullshit is what is pissing people off. People fed up of this shit
@@samuelromeo6937Exactly, I’m so exhausted with this stuff. Avatar the last airbender was already the least “sexist” show I had ever seen, with countless strong female characters, and it felt natural. The fact they had a problem with ATLA, speaks volumes.
They never said they removed it, just dialed it down, it’s an important part of Sokka’s character for like 3 episodes, I’m sad about they removal but it won’t affect the entire thing
Sokka wasnt sexist,he was based and what i strive to be every day. Only i am the one to humble the equivalent of those that think they are like the Kyoshi warriors in modern age Anyway,Avatarist,how much is Netflix paying you to sell your soul?Just wondering
It feels like they will be changing more than I would like to see already. Given how other shows such as the Wheel of Time series went I may just have been burnt once too often but I don't see it going well with just the changes we know of already. Combine that with how expensive CGI is and the amount they will need to pull off good looking bending skills and I am worried it will be very similar to WoT where they start strong but by the end it just looks bad and has too many inconsistencies due to the changes they made.
Sexism is the most important thing about this show it lead to the 2 biggest plot points of the show. 1. If it wasn't for Sokka's sexism Aang would have never been discovered in the iceberg. 2. If the Northern Water Tribe hadn't forced Katara into a healing class there's no guarantee she would've known how to save Aang's life after Azula essentially killed him in the Avatar State.
I don't like the idea of removing Sokka's character arc or growing out of his naive sexism, he grows over the course of the show in many ways, he's one of the most interesting characters of the core cast because of his flaws and how he changes over time. Showing character growth in a show like that creates a more empowering message than it does ignoring it and leaving it out.
You are all hilarious :D I bet even if they would produce an exact copy of the animation into real action. Most of people would still be mad about it and call it "boring" "it's just a copy" etc. To each their own.
I mean the northern water tribe is sexist too. More so than sokka was. And that a big part of the end of season one. Did they retcon that too, to get rid of the conflict?
Also, I think Sakka's character growth with the Kuroshi warriors, could be done simply by not making him sexist from the get go, but just dealing with all that within the episode within the village. I think (and understandably) netflix was probably worried about people hearing some of the stuff Sakka says in the first episode and jumping on the hate bandwagon without watching the rest of the show and seeing how Sakka grows. Honestly it is understandable given social tensions and the way "cancel culture" works. People tend to be very quick to pick up there pitchforks and torches without fully understanding something.
I’ve been more loyal to this show, that hasn’t even come out yet, these 6 years than I have been to anything else. No man, job or child will ever have this amount of loyalty than this show has.
Imagine trying to fit “character development” in one episode, it’ll be bad and won’t be development, maybe it’s part of the reason why sokka’s sexism was removed?
5:28 This is definitely the pirate ship cause I remember Aang was extremely excited to haggle with the pirates, Katara was suspicious about where and how they got the scroll and Sokka was just shopping
The more I see about this show the more i understand why Michael and Bryan left the project. Do I think it will be better than the movie, absolutely. Do I think it will still suck, Probably. I understand why some changes are necessary in live action, but changing the characters personality is unnecessary and really will water down how the characters grow. Aang more serious, Sokka not sexist. what's the point of meeting Suki. Its literally the 4th episode when he gets his but kicked by a girl and starts to rethink things. I don't have high hopes
The Bending in these handful of scenes looks really good. No goofy dancing and stomping about, just quick hand motions, one martial pose and poof, there's the element.
Some of the information coming out about this show, and from that short clip of who I think is king Bumi, my excitement has dropped slightly for this live action adaptation.
I AM SO HYPED FOR THIS!!! I really hope Zukos redemption includes an upgrade in his fire bending. His fire should reflect the colorful flames he saw from the two dragons in my opinion
To be honest i didn't expect everything to be exactly how the original show was...however they revealed enough similar to original and that's what had me sold..King Bumi..Jet..The Blue Spirit..Winter Solstice.. etc. hell even June. A little change in some of the characters isnt enough for me to leave doubt..so lets see how it turns out..im stoked
Solka’s sexism arc in the original doesn’t seem controversial to me. If you look at his life through Sokka’s eyes his views are completely reasonable. He grew up in a tribe as the son of the warrior leader of the tribe. His tribe exclusively had male warriors which was even even more crucial since they no longer had waterbenders. Could the women have fought, maybe but we can’t deny in extreme circumstances people naturally revert to the gender roles and these were definitely extreme circumstances. Someone had to stay and raise the kids and that would naturally be the women/moms. So Sokka growing up in a culture of only male warriors and female nurturers means he’s going to think that’s what all men and women do. Once he’s confronted with the truth he quickly changes tune. That’s commendable being capable of having your mind changed is a good character trait of Sokka’s and it’s a huge part of his character arc in Book 1. I’d be disappointed if it’s not somewhat apart of the live action.
Yea it's trash I have no interest in this modern audience garbage
I recently rewatched the entire show and the kyoahi island a bit feels off to me .
The Island is quite singular for having a group of fighting women AND ONLY Fighting WOMEN . No man to be seen near any weapon whatsoever .
It made me wonder, "where are the men" ?
I know that a huge portion of the male population is fisherman (or have other jobs) , but aren't there at least one who can fight?
Suki even accepted to teach Sokka , an outsider (although traveling with the avatar himself), how to fight . Suggesting that they are not opposed to teaching and taking men , but this also suggestes that men on kyoshi island purposefully DON'T want to join the fighting force
And that they would rather hide in their houses in case of an attack and let young girls fight than participate in any shape or form .
Making them look like probably the most coward people in the avatar universe (close to Yon Ra and chin the conqueror villagers level of cowardice) , at least in my eyes .
(This episode seems like it tries to beat sexism with another type of sexism)
People these days are too soft, I think if Netflix out even a slight hint of sokka's sexism the snowflakes would cry n whine about it.
@@madmouse4400alternatively all the able bodided men went to war just as the southern water tribe
This comment is 🎯 I said many times if they lean too much into the “woke” modern pandering, the show would be ruined. But I’m still hoping I’m proven wrong 😑 although this is a huge red flag. 🚩
the Sokka part is so sad, because this is actually how the message is DONE RIGHT - show the audience how sexist beliefs are stupid, instead of having the character be morally righteous from the get-go. I'm so sad about this change.
Maybe that's why the original writers left? Because Netflix likes to turn everything in a woke political correct show? lol
@@Sunshainnlol the original writer ARE woke?
💯 unfortunately the producers are worried about offending the snowflakes. I think they will still include some of that Sokka sexist beliefs just in a more lighthearted way. If that's even possible LOL
A lot of today's entertainment landscape is sensitive
@@Sunshainn Please don‘t get it twisted. The original show is also woke as shit. These writers, so far, just seem to be worse at conveying the messages than the original ones.
Though I hope to be wrong, show‘s not out yet I suppose.
The copium is real with the Sokka situation. The sexism was probably my favorite trait of his because there are very little works in media that activelly show characters admiting they are wrong and growing from their mistakes. It's always only ever the villains that are shown to have those traits only for them to be defeated. Teaching young boys that it's okay to admit you're wrong and grow from it is not a bad thing and I hate that they took that away in the live action.
I too am enjoying a lot of copium in regards to this show. I think it was a reallly good arc to have in the original but who knows it mike work in the live action
just those type of comments are a huge red flag that makes me think they will ruin this show just like they do with everything nowadays...
idk why people require this so much from Sokka. I always felt like his sexism was so out of pocket and weird. It was a barrier for me to liking him ngl. I don't think it's integral to his character in any way. When I think of Sokka, I don't think of his sexism, but rather his humour and play-boy attitude lol. I don't mind them removing it at all, there's other ways that Sokka has grown throughout the series.
@@pinata111coladaProbably because its quite literally the first part of his character arc?
@@ZeallustImmortal That doesn't really change anything for me. I don't think his sexism is or should be a key part of his personality. I think it was just placed there because it was a different time and you could get away with it. You could also probably still showcase his ignorance/naivety and his changing beliefs on gender without some of his unsavory remarks.
dude you really deserved those shout outs! I'm so happy to see that the cast and staff members recognises someone from the fandom side! I cannot wait to see the series already.
Korra❤
The way he says “Aang shouted me out” has me on the floor😂
"The casual outfits in this show are just straight fire." He says, as he presents a shot of Fire Lord Ozai and Azula. The pun isn't lost on me, good sir!
Flameo, hot man flameo👏🏾👏🏾
So you don't know what they did
@@theblueexorcist8731 If it *was* lost on me, then you'd be correct. 😁
I hope Gyatso is confirmed as a White Lotus member
There is one thing I don't like at all from all the pictures and trailers that we got. And that is that Zuko never looks angry. And Zuko being and acting angry in S1 is extremely important for his character and it ties with lots of important scenes later. It's conected to him not being able to create lightining, the mountaintop scene, the beach scene, him losing his powers in s3, etc. I worry that having Azula and Ozai in S1 will put Zuko in the victim role right from the start (he should enter thar role in s2). That would be killing one of the best written character arcs ever. Zuko must be the main antagonist in S1. The audience must hate him in s1 for his arc to work.
I agree. None of the clips I've seen seem to really represent Zukos character well. Hoping they are just the quieter/less talkative segments and we get a lot more of that rage from him. If not his character is a bit lost/pointless to some degree. Especially with Azula and Ozai in this season. Im also going to be very disappointed if they have removed Sokka's sexist attitude. That is a HUGE character building plot point for him, just like Zukos rage is. Along with Aangs silliness.
@@OhHeyItsShey What do you mean by "Sokka's seismic"?
@@dificulttocure wow autocorrect really messed that up 😆 sexism****
@@OhHeyItsShey Oh. Well, I wouldn't mind if they get rid of that. I mean, it is a very minor thing in Sokka, that only lasts until he meets Suki in ep4, right? Also, we know the southern water tribe is not sexist as the northern one is (that's why the old bloodbender lady moved there). And Sokkas father doesn't seem to be like the sexist type. So it is kind of out of place for him to be sexist to begin with (like who did he learn that from?)
@@OhHeyItsShey The southern water tribe is quiet progresive actually, they accepted Korrasami faster than the fans did loll
DUDE! I'm so hyped words can't explain, been waiting like 10 years for this after TLOK. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
It won’t
It will be better than the live action movie, but it is impossible for it to live up to the original series.
Did they announce this like 10 years ago?
Never get excited
No, it was announced in 2018, but OP was just hoping for it since TLOK wrapped.
One of the points of relief from the video interview was Dallas dropping that spoiler that Zuko and Katara fight on Kyoshi Island, so those worries about how maybe it's just Zhao who invades Kyoshi Island and Zuko doesn't are gone.
I think it makes more sense this way because zhao knows about the avatar. Why would he wait and give Zuko a chance he supposed to be Zuko’s rival so it makes sense that he beats Zuko to it but Zuko gets there a little late and calls us a little bit of chaos
@@blakelandry9313I actually think it's the other way around and Zhao follows Zuko to Kyoshi Island.
@@dresdenwarlock7978 maybe but I feel like zhao would get information faster than Zuko he has more resources plus from the trailers. It looks like he’s the first one there almost like he’s bargaining with them and nothing seems to be going wrong with the group but it could happen either way
@@blakelandry9313Maybe, but I feel like since Zhao followed Zuko once or twice in the animated series that it isn't out of character for him to do exactly that in live action
Im very worried about them removing sokkas sexism, that was a significant part of his character development throughout the series, and it feels like they're just doing it to virtue signal how progressive they are without actually understanding WHY he was that way, and if this is the precident that they set then im worried for the whole show
I personally think there's still SOME there, but it's dialed down a little. Maybe instead of going all in on "women are better at cooking and cleaning" it's just "men are better fighters" and that's it, and he learns just how wrong he is. They said "I feel like we took out the element of HOW sexist Sokka is" and not "he isn't sexist at all" and I think those are different, but we'll see.
Just don't watch it.
Same I hope they don’t go woke
Yup I always had a bad omen when the og writers left this is gonna be a downgrade in name of modernity
@@60bangzlol they wil
A behind the scenes with the producers of the Netflix Avatar the last airbender show on youtube that I found by chance, as a result of the new trailer dropping, the day the new trailer dropped, revealed that in designing the costumes, the Netflix producer noted that the waves, ripples, swirling water, and patterns of water changing state are found on the clothing of waterbenders like Katara, while non-benders of the water tribe like Sokka have fixed geometries in the patterns of their water tribe clothing.
The waves on Katara’s water tribe outfit indicate she is a waterbender. The Triangles / fixed geometry of Sokka’s water tribe outfit indicate he is a non-bender. According to some behind the sceenes each tribe has clothing that indicate bender or non-bender for water, earth and fire. (All airbenders are benders intrinsically).
The producer said “…watch for it, even in earth kingdom, and fire nation outfits, benders and non-benders will be indicated by distinguishable clothing patterns connected to the appropriate bending element, or fixed static patterns (I.e. not all fire nation soldiers are firebenders) if one is paying attention.” It is a new aspect/detail that the producers / costume designers added as an Easter Egg. It also helped distinguish on set bending actors/actresses from non-bending actors/actresses to assist in keeping the choreography and appropriate actions consistent for individual scenes.
Do you have the link for the video?
I definitely agree with your take on the idea of changing out Sokka's sexism arc- I hope we'll still get our deeply thought out characters but time will tell I guess
congratulations for being lovely recognized by the cast, you deserve it❤❤❤
At 8:44 when your talking about the Southern Watertribe you can see Sokkas Watch Tower in the distance! 😂 Cant wait to see the show!
I love the guy playing Ozai. You guys may not remember but he was Jin on Lost and he was a phenomenal actor and had a great character development.
And chin ho Kelly from Hawaii 5-0
@5:30 I’m thinking this is pulled from the scene of the gang on the pirate ship. It kind of looks like they’re in a store and their facial reactions match what they had in the original. Aang in a happy mood, Katara nervous because she just stole the water scroll, Sokka kind of neutral. Also we know the water scroll scene happens because of the Katara short 12 second video where she is looking at a water bending scroll. As far as I know the pirates haven’t been confirmed for the story but the water bending scroll looks like it is.
Honestly the fact that "the whole cast" watches you gives me more hope than anything up to this point (I was already pretty optimistic). Just the fact that they seem to care so much about the source material and their fans is enough, but the fact that it's YOU just makes it better. It's easy to get caught up in emotions when it comes to shows that meant a lot to us, and definitely has a nostalgia factor, but right from the get go, you have given such measured and objective takes on everything that has been revealed over time along with very constructive criticisms, and very reasonable expectations. Speaking of expectations, I love that you understand that this will not be a 1:1 retelling and that creative liberties will have to be taken to take full advantage of the difference strengths/weakness' of the different mediums (animation Vs. live action) and honestly I agree, as you have said in previous videos, that a 1:1 retelling would be boring! At the end of the day, I'm looking for a faithful adaptation that respects the overall feel, themes, and message from the original!
nobody is going to read that just kidding
😂
Your shout out in EW was POG. Congrats!
I get more hyped each day we get closer!!
Love how you added the detail of him being sexist being a part of his character, Sometimes people can be too “peoplepleasy” and end up ruining something that was just fine as it was.
Yeah, its disappointing to know that they removing Sokka's sexism. It is part of how he become a humble and respectful person towards everyone since he got humbled by the kyoshi warriors. I'm worried for sokka's character development in the live action series.
@@annisadwiputrinah he can be grow without being sexist 😂
@@curryis828 yeah, he can. But him being sexist then changed to be a better person is important to show that when you're wrong does not mean you are evil and it is part of how his culture and environment shaping hia sexism. It shows that sexism is wrong. If the show doesn't explore that, then there is nothing to learn.
Sokka's sexism was one of the tiny character arcs that did matter. Not only was it a good lesson to teach the audience but it also shows Sokka's growth as a character. He travels the world and grow admiration towards the people he encounter, both men and woman. His change of views shows that he's no longer that narrow minded, egotistic guy living off in a tiny village that we met on the first episode.
You deserve the shout outs, you're my favorite avatar account. You manage to be fair when appraising new content, which I think is important, it's good to not be unnecessarily negative even when you have doubts. You also point out so many things I wouldn't have realized otherwise.
LOOK AT THE POSTURE OF THAT ACTOR PLAYING SOKKA. HE CAPTURED ALL.
Amazing work as always!!! I cannot wait to see our beloved characters IRL.
The book that Aang is reading / holding could be the cloud reading book. I hope it is because I think it would be super cool to watch Team Avatar take on a volcano.
I think Azula and Ozai's arc is going to be them planning their invasion of Omashu which is something I have been hoping for since hearing Azula was going to be more prevalent. This feels even more evident considering that the Mechinest is going to be in Omashu instead of the Northern Air Temple. I kinda wonder if they are going to tweak how the fire nation find out about his tech like maybe they go the more realistic route of finding his inventions or maybe he is in Omashu because it is the only place he thinks is safe from the fire nation and part of Azula and Ozai's motive for taking Omashu has to do with getting their hands on the Mechinest. Also possible Azula, Mai, and Ty-Lee could have a plan to infiltrate Omashu and kidnap the Mechinest, further explaining why Bumi surrendered and help setup the tension between Mai, Ty-Lee, and Azula and explain why Mai family is the ones in charge of Omashu.
1. Rushes to watch The Avatarist's video
2. Goes to Netflix's channel to go watch these clips
3. Comes back to get the link where I knew it would be
Every single time
I'm very sure that the image where aang looks amazed and katara more concerned is from "the waterbending scroll" on the pirate ship. Honestly surprised you didn't see it.
and so is probably the image of iroh and zuko. you know, with the stone money face
I thought that too... speculation of course, but a good hunch
I'm impressed with how good the bending looks
Gordon Cormier if ur seein this don’t try so hard to separate urself from Aang just soak it in, you’ll age into other roles in the blink of an eye so be authentic and trust the process!! good work sir we rooting for u AIGHT
Omg does that mean the cast are reading this comment rn? Like, this too. And this? And THIS?
no.
Yeah, Sokka's sexism is also portrayed different than the sexism in the Northern water tribe and that means a lot.
The show did a great example on how 'ignorant sexism' can easily be overcome by the truth Sokka discovers, but 'taught sexism', like if part of a tradition/culture, is much more harder to beat in which KATARA discovers.
They BOTH beat it though is the point. They shouldn't remove it from the show, but just be careful about it.
I think that's what they did though.
Hopefully 😅
Edit: Btw the one who beats the hardest one, was a woman (Katara) which furthers reaffirms Sokka's lesson about women by seeing his sister be not only top of the class but also a prodigy and a waterbending -master's favorite student.
Trust that if they don't portray sexism to beat with Sokka they'll do it with the northern watertribe. If not? They have failed entirely to see the lesson in the show. Which would be.... dissapointing-BUT I have high hopes! 😭❤️
The show has many other lessons.
Gordon is so nice, he shared my edit on his story last year, I don't do Avatar edits much so that really meant so much!
Woah that felt like an abrupt ending
You earned the mentions. This is a great channel.
You really are making it. I honestly look up to you.
The zuko and iroh photo looks so good!
i think the image of the trio is from the waterbending scroll + pirates episode and i can bet my life that so is the clip of zuko vs katara, it'll make no sense for zuko and jet to meet cause that's a change way too bigger for the s2 plot
I agree it's the waterbending scroll episode since it's the first time where zuko and katara went 1vs1
They mentioned you in that new EW article man! They see you!👍
We have been waiting WAY too long
The picture of the gaang with different expressions could be the pirate shop with the water bending scroll? But mechanist like you said makes sense too. Either way, I’m so ready for it to be out!
I do speak mandarin, but hardly read/write. But that is traditional with the writing vertical instead of horiztonal!
Love the videos so much, and the shout-out is so well deserved for the content you put out for all of us!
Wow, that's incredible! I learn simplified chinese, can read, write, but speeching is still 马马虎虎😂
Traditional Chinese is up down, right to left. Based on the letter ending with shorter sentences on the left side, I'd say bravo to the design team for putting that in 😍
That's amazing! I grew up speaking mandarin but my reading/writing is rubbish haha.@@ronnies732
@balrog8moriab8m85 it makes better sense to be traditional Chinese in the way it is written since it is in ancient setting.
The best part about the original series is that these Chinese sentences makes sense. They became sort of like Easter eggs for Chinese audiences.
Some of the sentences and paragraphs are beautifully written like poetry I recall I was impressed that even an American cartoon can get it right.
I learned from somewhere they actually hired a language expert from Taiwan for these.
I hope netflix continued will that too.
3:30 and on, it could be chinese hanzi or it could be japanese kanji. Fire nation is supposed to emulate feudal japan so likely it's japanese kanji, whereas the earth kingdom is supposed to be a more chinese and korean inspired.
I understand toning down sexist Sokka makes sense, as stuff that's funny when animated can be really cringe in live action; but I hope it's just toned down and not gone. Sokka learning to not be a douche was a very good message that's particularly relevent nowadays, it would be a missed opportunity to skip it entirely.
They don't need to redo this. Just make it live action. That's it. Don't make it modern. Keep the sexism. Keep the classism. Keep all the isms. It's part of their growth.
They just can't leave well enough alone smh
Yesssss!!! Who else is excited!! ❤❤
i had goosebumps the whole video and then u hit me with the yutaka yamada soundtrack. videogasm
I love Sokka character already
As a practitioner of Northern Longfist, we don't really do the "Kamehameha" hand movement. I really hope that the martial arts are what they are supposed to be
Sokka starts out thinking men and women exist, but gets corrected by the Kiyoshi warriors to understand that those are fictional social constructs created by the oppressive patriarchy and that men can get pregnant.
It's funny because it's true 🤣🤣🤣
If Sokka doesn’t start out as sexist I’m gonna be disappointed ngl
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Lol or even better, the water tribes have a secret third gender (which is actually a category for weak men)
sokka's sexism was never problematic...
it's always portrayed as a negative trait and a significant part of his character growth is learning he's wrong.
its avatar day? where are my uncooked dough cookies!
ha!
Netflix loves changing things that don’t need to be changed. Taking away Aang’s side quests is how he preserved his childhood and escaped the responsibilities. And changing a characters beliefs that shaped their development in future makes no sense. This is why the original creators left.
That was an abrupt ending to this video… lol.
DUDE! I'm so hyped words can't explain, been waiting like 10 years for this after TLOK. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
To me that doesn't read as Sokka not being sexist at all, and more like he's not going to be as overtly sexist. A toning down, not a total rewrite. More "Men are strong" energy as opposed to "Girls are weak."
Congratulations u deserve it you have done so much over the years netflix and gordan recognition it peak
I’m guessing the sexism in question won’t be as blatant as it is in the show? I mean that’s the point of him learning from the kyoshi warriors right?
Yes, you are correct.
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I get that they're terrified of making Sokka sexist, as it could turn away a lot of new viewers, but it absolutely makes sense for him to be sexist at the beginning, given the culture and circumstances he grew up in. And given how quickly he was humbled, I never saw it as too much of an issue. I hope they'll at least compensate it with his arrogance.
I love the commentary in this video because it’s not harsh or degrading like other ones but has undertone of kindness and respect. Bravo!
While I’m a bit dissspointed about Sokka character change i kinda understand also cuz the way they pry rated his sexism was very black and white and juvenile. It worked for a kids cartoon but irl i don’t think it’d translate as well. I do hope they maybe still keep the element of machismo he had in the beginning to still keep part of the character while still refining it for an older audience,
This is probably one of the reasons the original creators left: the fact that sokka is not allowed to be sexist in the beginning.
You can be sexist and have the same learning curve without having the "men's rights" Sokka from season 1. Also wouldn't mind if they toned down a bit of Iroh's creep factor which was the only aspect of the character I found baffling in the show.
After the series is out, you've got to reveal how much stuff you knew beforehand but weren’t able to tell😊😂
But wait. The point of the Kyoshi story is that Sokka is a sexist but becomes enlightened. That's the arc.
The beautifully thing about Avatar is that all the characters start off flawed but learn more balanced perspectives throughout their journey. Aang accepting growing up, Zuko living for himself rather than others, Katara letting go of control, Toph learning to accept help and Sokka learning to be humble and leaning into his strengths. Undoing any of these major character arcs would be a poor decision IMO
Sigh… this was my biggest fear with this show. I was afraid they would make it for “modern times”… aka, full of bullshit that’s making countless other shows and movies flop. Hopefully this is all they did, and they didn’t add on a ton of stupid modern political messaging.. because if they did, Netflix is going to, unfortunately, lose a lot of money with this show.
the fact that they did this, proves the show will be shit. this is why i prefer they never made live action. this woke bullshit is what is pissing people off. People fed up of this shit
@@samuelromeo6937Exactly, I’m so exhausted with this stuff. Avatar the last airbender was already the least “sexist” show I had ever seen, with countless strong female characters, and it felt natural. The fact they had a problem with ATLA, speaks volumes.
They never said they removed it, just dialed it down, it’s an important part of Sokka’s character for like 3 episodes, I’m sad about they removal but it won’t affect the entire thing
Sokka is your average teen boy, until he gets humbled by Suki and grows up a bit.
Sokka wasnt sexist,he was based and what i strive to be every day.
Only i am the one to humble the equivalent of those that think they are like the Kyoshi warriors in modern age
Anyway,Avatarist,how much is Netflix paying you to sell your soul?Just wondering
It feels like they will be changing more than I would like to see already.
Given how other shows such as the Wheel of Time series went I may just have been burnt once too often but I don't see it going well with just the changes we know of already. Combine that with how expensive CGI is and the amount they will need to pull off good looking bending skills and I am worried it will be very similar to WoT where they start strong but by the end it just looks bad and has too many inconsistencies due to the changes they made.
How much you wanna bet they gonna make saka gay
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Nothing because Saka isn’t a person
They wont do that. More possible an erotic scene of Sokka and Suki or Yue. Thats the most extreme thing they could do
Sexism is the most important thing about this show it lead to the 2 biggest plot points of the show.
1. If it wasn't for Sokka's sexism Aang would have never been discovered in the iceberg.
2. If the Northern Water Tribe hadn't forced Katara into a healing class there's no guarantee she would've known how to save Aang's life after Azula essentially killed him in the Avatar State.
So they are removing "sexist" Sokka ....... Next they remove "meat eater" Sokka? we can't offend the animal rights activists can we?
Before you know it Azula will be a lesbian icon .....sigh
I don't like the idea of removing Sokka's character arc or growing out of his naive sexism, he grows over the course of the show in many ways, he's one of the most interesting characters of the core cast because of his flaws and how he changes over time. Showing character growth in a show like that creates a more empowering message than it does ignoring it and leaving it out.
My guess is that the image of Aang smiling and Sokka and Katara behind him is after Aang's tests by King Bumi.
Not me manifesting zuko and katara actually getting together in this show. It's not going to happen, but I can dream.
5:30 to me it really gives vibes of the ship of pirates where the avatar team wanted to buy a water banding tutorial
Super talented VFX and compositing artists holy moly.
The sokka news was really a bummer but still Optimistic about the show 🤷🏽♂️
You are all hilarious :D
I bet even if they would produce an exact copy of the animation into real action.
Most of people would still be mad about it and call it "boring" "it's just a copy" etc.
To each their own.
5:06 When I saw this picture I instantly thought of the pirate ship they were on where Katara stole the waterbending scroll
bro is so caught up in the bones of the iglo structures and the people he didnt see sokka's tower in the back
This cast seems crazy good😮, man I’m hyped
I'm starting to feel kinda hyped for the release
Hell yeah, love the ATLA updates!!!
And love the Licht Und Schatten background music.
I mean the northern water tribe is sexist too. More so than sokka was. And that a big part of the end of season one. Did they retcon that too, to get rid of the conflict?
Cast looks too perfect to be true. It’s beginning to look like another success story is coming to Netflix like One Piece
Sokka was sexist only for like a few eoisodes. Not a big deal for me. All they said was theyvwould tone it down
Also, I think Sakka's character growth with the Kuroshi warriors, could be done simply by not making him sexist from the get go, but just dealing with all that within the episode within the village. I think (and understandably) netflix was probably worried about people hearing some of the stuff Sakka says in the first episode and jumping on the hate bandwagon without watching the rest of the show and seeing how Sakka grows. Honestly it is understandable given social tensions and the way "cancel culture" works. People tend to be very quick to pick up there pitchforks and torches without fully understanding something.
10/10 execution in dropping that hint for a premiere invite! you deserve to go!
I’ve been more loyal to this show, that hasn’t even come out yet, these 6 years than I have been to anything else. No man, job or child will ever have this amount of loyalty than this show has.
Imagine trying to fit “character development” in one episode, it’ll be bad and won’t be development, maybe it’s part of the reason why sokka’s sexism was removed?
Nah they just think they know better that's all. They could easily have done it had they followed the originals formula but they didn't.
5:28 This is definitely the pirate ship cause I remember Aang was extremely excited to haggle with the pirates, Katara was suspicious about where and how they got the scroll and Sokka was just shopping
If you take Sokka's sexism then Aang never gets free of the Glacier 😅
The more I see about this show the more i understand why Michael and Bryan left the project. Do I think it will be better than the movie, absolutely. Do I think it will still suck, Probably. I understand why some changes are necessary in live action, but changing the characters personality is unnecessary and really will water down how the characters grow. Aang more serious, Sokka not sexist. what's the point of meeting Suki. Its literally the 4th episode when he gets his but kicked by a girl and starts to rethink things. I don't have high hopes
The Bending in these handful of scenes looks really good. No goofy dancing and stomping about, just quick hand motions, one martial pose and poof, there's the element.
Some of the information coming out about this show, and from that short clip of who I think is king Bumi, my excitement has dropped slightly for this live action adaptation.
I AM SO HYPED FOR THIS!!! I really hope Zukos redemption includes an upgrade in his fire bending. His fire should reflect the colorful flames he saw from the two dragons in my opinion
To be honest i didn't expect everything to be exactly how the original show was...however they revealed enough similar to original and that's what had me sold..King Bumi..Jet..The Blue Spirit..Winter Solstice.. etc. hell even June. A little change in some of the characters isnt enough for me to leave doubt..so lets see how it turns out..im stoked