Alien life is already here visiting our world = According to UFO whistle blower David Grusch USAF Captain in Intelligence who has testified to SSIC and CSIC. Apparently the Aliens do not want to open contact and prefer to study us from a distance as observed by the US Navy UFO encounters caught on video.
The Zoo Hypothesis: We just simply are not as smart as we think we are. We are still just warring tribes of primates. We still believe in fairytales and those fairytales have held us back and are holding us back.
Or maybe, any intelligent species, wouldn't want anything to do with us. We have nothing of worth to offer, and have displayed over and over, that the most successful, the leaders of humans, are deceitful, lying, greedy, mean, selfish beings. And the rest of us aspire to be just like them, if we can.
Whoa tooo BIG™ ANYWEIGH , it's all bullCrap,, cause even get there tomorrow, where would you BE !!!???..... NOWHERE !!!!!! Pretty stupid idea all the hulabaloo !!!! ❌ Go sit on the moon is FAR FAR FAR better, THEN you will see how STUPID IT IS !!! it's childish thinking go to a billion miles away , FOR WHAT !!!!!????? It's mass madness!!!!!! Can't even save THIS planet !!!!!! INSIDIOUS.. NASA ELON ARE BONKERS, we are NOT Buck Rogers material. 👾sorry, but it's immature EGO !!! Thankyou!! and give me my Nobel peace prize please..
These kinds of thoughts are kinda like Neil, they need to get an overhaul. Ask yourself, why does congress have a new Bill getting passed right now with words like NON HUMAN INTELLIGENCE or OTHER WORLD TECH? Why are these whistleblowers that are coming out now are basically saying the same thing that has been said over the years by others? Maybe we should go back to doing an actual hypothesis because this is not it. I see more of IT CAN’T BE TRUE or just straight up attempts of debunking. I can assure you with all the education in the world, Neil is a dinosaur with this topic and this is coming from a supporter of him.
If aliens have ever visited Earth, now just consider this: In terms of distance scales in space, if we imagine creating a scale model where the Sun is the size of a basketball, then the Sun's nearest neighbour, a star named Proxima Centauri is roughly the size of a golf ball (1/7th the diameter of the basketball). Proxima Centauri is roughly 4.2 lightyears away. One lightyear is just shy of 10 trillion km's. So in rough rounded numbers, it's about 40 trillion km's to Proxima Centauri. In our scale model, where the Sun is the size of a basketball, to get the correct distance, the golf ball needs to be about 7,200 km's away from the basketball. In 1977 NASA launched Voyager 1. It's been traveling through space for nearly 46 years. It is the most distant object ever put into space by humans. It is currently about 160 AU from the Sun. But where Proxima Centuri is 4.2 light years away, Voyager 1 is only 22 light hours away. We haven't even managed to make it one light day away (much less a light year) in 46 of space travel. If you do the maths, the journey would take Voyager something like 75,000 to 80,000 years to make the one-way journey (Voyager is not headed in the direction of Proxima Centauri. But if it were it would take that amount of time to reach it.) In that scale model where the distance between the Sun and Proxima Centauri is about 7,200 km's Voyager has traveled roughly 3.2 of those km's after nearly 46 years of flying through space. You might be thinking "Ah, but we could just build faster spacecraft." and whilst that's technically true, it really misses the mark. 80,000 years, even if we doubled the speed is still 40,000 years. Think about what homo-sapiens were doing on Earth 40,000 years ago. If we made a spacecraft that could go 10 times faster it would still take around 8000 years, an amount of time that is longer than the 'recorded' history of humans (not the whole history of humans just the history long enough for us to have any written record.) Suppose we want to make the one-way trip in only 100 years. There is no chemical reaction that can deliver enough energy to do that. What if we switch to nuclear propulsion? Nuclear reactions only convert about 1% of mass to energy, even nuclear engines can't do it. If you get exotic, suppose you use an engine based on matter/anti-matter reactions. Anti-matter is a real thing. Particle accelerators produce tiny amounts of it. If one particle of anti-matter comes into contact with one particle of normal matter, both particles annihilate with a 100% mass to energy conversion. That could get a ship to Proxima Centauri in only 100 years. The 'problem' with this is that this is physics and not engineering. Laws of physics are not violated. But this isn't the same as actually engineering such a ship. There are a crazy number of other problems that you would encounter if you actually tried to build such a machine. One of those problems would be obtaining the anti-matter. The amount of anti-matter produced by particle accelerators is tiny. One estimate I read is that if you were going to try to get a supply of anti-matter it would cost about 4 trillion US dollars per gram ! If that number is correct, then spacecraft based on anti-matter is probably not on the cards. Suppose our ET neighbours have figured out how to churn out anti-matter as fast as humans can churn out plastic. OK but remember that this thought experiment was just to get to the nearest neighboring star and it still takes 100 years. A unlimited supply of anti-matter still wouldn't make such journeys easy. There are alternatives, could you build a solar sail large enough ? In 'physics' sure. You'd need a solar sail larger than the state of Tasmania. In 'engineering' good luck building and deploying a solar sail larger than the state of Tasmania (and how much would that weigh?) How would you even launch it into space? How would you pack it and how would you unfold it when it is ready to fly ? How do you plan to stop when you arrive at the next star system ? How would you keep anything alive for such a period of time ? These are just some of the thoughts that come to mind when someone says we've been visited by extra-terrestrials from beyond the solar system. Science fiction stories allow for faster-than-light travel because the stories would be really boring if the authors had to obey actual physics. I'd love for this to be true, but the rational side of me realises that whilst there is most likely life beyond our solar system, we are likely hopelessly exiled from each other.
Ok so youre using proxima centauri as a base , what about other anomalies in our solar system such as jupiters frozen ice moon europa that takes only 3 years to reach? Your entire theory is based upon these "aliens" being an impossible distance away as a result of technology we ourselves have on earth ? They say the nearest inhabitable planet is potentially kepler 186f which is only 500 years way from earth , and thats just based on our current technology.... Your whole hypothesis is clearly overwhelmed by bias.
They fermu paradox doesn't in Clyde is the trillions of years of civilization these primate apes secret space programs people take like terrible genecidists called mib and trilateral commission people. Who will build the boundary and the the protections, certainly ever these ignorant for wrong would they be and do in every presumption for all their knowledge know not wisdom or reverence. Gods live you too and also remember. Gods are not what we as a civilization call ourselves back home or in our mutual company. God also isn't anyone paradox, like a one drive a paradox never a paradox.
I know where you are coming from, but when they say "intelligent" they mean life that is able to start a civilization, live in community, work together, and send spaceships or messages across space and time.
So what if it's our expectation which is flawed? Our perception of them as having human motivations for doing, or not doing gets in the way I feel, so until we actually meet them face to face, we aren't going to understand aliens at all, because we are too human-centric.
100% with you. Human-centric is the key. An alien race could exist and thrive for millions of years without a single individual ever being interested in physically leaving their planet to explore space. Exploration as a concept may not even exist for an intelligent species that evolved under completely different conditions. The need to see what's beyond the horizon may be a uniquely human concept.
Exploration and expansion is ingrained in life itself, not just human life, with survival at it's very core. All planets have limited resources and space. All stars have a timer. Eventually, if nothing cathasrophic happens, they all will arrive to the same thing, move forward or die.
How can we assume that all life forms will advance to a technological age on an emerging planet? Today there are many societies on earth , who have maintained a lower tech culture and are thriving well in their own society.
The question of "where are they?" is inextricably tied to "when are they?" Our signals/technology would have to intersect and allow for the response time to communicate. Maybe once a civilization reaches a point where a small number of bad actors can do apocalyptic harm, the odds are greatly against longevity, reducing the window-of-opportunity for communication to a tiny sliver of time within the billions of years it might take for intelligent life to evolve. Could be that there are radio signals travelling between stars, even between galaxies, that are nothing but the epitaphs of dead civilizations. Those signals will whizz by at the speed of light, maybe we'll be listening during our sliver of time, and then be forever thereafter unavailable to us. Maybe Voyager-like satellites containing AI libraries are the inter-galactic tombstones that archive the best of a dying alien civilization.
What if it's as simple as, "we're not speaking the same language"? Humans use RF to transmit signals - what if advanced civilizations are using an alternate medium - say, photons (aka: light), for example? We'd be missing it.
What if it's even simpler - there ain't nobody out there? "Oh, the universe it too damn big for there not to be anybody there!" Really? How big does the universe need to be before there are are space goomers driving around in flying saucers and broadcasting ads for for sorry teevee shows?
At what point did we all agree that aliens look like small green bald hairless apes with extra big heads and giant bug eyes? It seems a kind of nonimaginative conceptualization, but we've stuck with it for half a century or more. idk
I continue to be astounded at the ignorance of supposed smart people, who have no clue of just how awful humans are, which is why no alien species want anything to do with us. The enormous ego of these people, who just automatically assume we are so fascinating, so wonderful, that everyone would want to rush to our planet and introduce themselves to us. Much more likely, is that they see us the same way we see ants or bees, an interesting species, but one with so limited potential.
Having made sightings. that were in no way explainable given, our current understandings of the laws of physics or the elements required for any human developed air craft, I have to take issue with Tyson's question of, "Where are they." Keep in mind, I'm not alone in the experience I had.Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people have seen them. So, to answer his rhetorical question, they're here, now,. Despite what we think we know about the laws of physics.I'm also reminded of the statements by recognized and respected scientists that once made the statement, "Man will never fly." Our knowledge is never complete. If we keep studying things, our knowledge of science changes, grows, and is refined. But first, we have to be open to the possibility.
I like to think that if there are highly advanced species out there, they have been aware of us since the signals from our nuclear weapons reached them and that they are waiting to see if we survive Oppenheimer’s folly. We know that intelligence isn’t an evolutionary advantage since it took billions of years to develop here and there is no sign of it in the fossil record. I believe that the great filter is intelligence and that it is very rare to make it past nuclear extinction.
But an 80 light-year radius is a very small region of space. We are working on the ability to study exoplanet atmospheres. I suspect we would have been detectable for centuries if they used this technology. They might have noticed that smoke had a cycle from us heating our cities in the winter.
Let say alien life did detect out nuclear radiation and or detention or work. That would have to be within 78 light years of earth, and or have probs within 78 light years of earth that had faster then light communication, to even know that we have used nuclear weapons or nuclear technologies. Understand that we have only had nuclear technology for 78 years, furthermore we have only had radio technology since 1890, so 133 years so I can confidently saw any alien civilization would have to be within 133 light year of earth to hear us, and that isn't likely that cause due to our early radios were so weak they wouldn't have be able to travel that far. Further more, let's say they used a similar technology to our to read what's in our atmosphere, looking for key signatures or like (oxygen) they could have know that this planet could have life on it for thousands of years, millions of years, but may not have had the ability to know weather their was civilizations unless they continually study our world for thousands of millions of years. In my belief I would say life itself is far more rare then we believe. Let's take a look at one example. We believe that a primordial ooze started all life on earth, yet we have no figures out what or how that primordial ooze start or what it was composed of, and that having the prefect match of chemical in the right spot with the right about of light/darkness, right about of radiation, gravity, moons, atmosphere is correct, let's just say the change of that happening is 1 in a billion. Now continue let say over the 3.7 billion years life has been on earth, the tittle odds that life will evolve to become intelligent, is 1 and 100 trillion. That would make it so, that the odds of their being planets with life likely, but planets with life and is intelligent extremely unlikely, and extremely rare, and out of the 50 billion galaxies that we can see, each having 300 million earth life worlds which would mean out of the 1.5e19 world that are earth like, only 1500 have intelligent life out of 50 billion galaxies. Now saying out of that 1500 world, how many will make it to space, how many will destroy themselves, how many will figure out how to get to another world, how many????? So the idea that intelligent life has been to earth is low, the likelihood that those 1500 intelligent life world existed at the same time... I'm not sure. Now every number I stated is a guess, need someone with a much high education then me to do this
We show no signs of being an intelligent species. Our history is absolutely filled with violence, murder, lying, deceit, and other awful behavior; we have been at war almost constantly through our history. Even look at the technologies, many of which weren't even the best ones available, but the ones that we used were simply marketed better, or worse, the better ones were sabotaged in order for the inferior one to become the most commonly used, with only the greed of the 'winner' being what made the choice for us. Intelligent? You're kidding me.
@@elmerwhitaker7852 Its also possible they have probes in space within a few light years away that have instantaneous communication. They can then warp from however far away they live to the probe that went off, which might be in the nearest star system to us. Our first nuclear testing was in the early 40s and then along came supposed roswell and alien news in the mid 40s. The closest star system is 4.3 light years away. It would fit the time frame if they were from there or had probes there. Our branches of secret officials hide everything from us it wouldn't be surprising if they are the ones asking aliens to conceal themselves for the fear of humanity collapsing. I dont believe religions have a place in space and only create problems and fighting within a race so maybe they are letting them die down before revealing anything. Atleast from my experience I personally dont think I know anybody that regularly attends a religious mass anymore. The newer generation is moving towards a more scientific stance.
Our galaxy very well may have a multitude of civilizations....and they are all in the same boat as us! No "warp" space travel, no "wormhole" technology, and listening to the background noise hoping to hear "somebody" when we don't even have a clue what they would sound like! If they have been broadcasting long enough for it to even reach us!
life becoming digital is just stupid. aside from the problem of needing computers for digital to exist, in a computer's memory, in a computer simulation or virtual world, there are no actual objects or people or places. in a computer simulation or virtual world, a computer is just running calculations using dynamically updated data to figure out what would happen in a given scenario. Then, in cases where there is a monitor or other visual output device attached, graphics hardware/software draws updated images using the aforementioned calculations. if it does this fast enough, you've got a video showing what some hypothetical situation would look and act like. The reality is that there are no actual things in a virtual world in a computer. at best, you'd have have programs that could calculate what particular people would have done in a given scenario using data about that person's brain but the person that was scanned and then who's body was presumably destroyed doesn't actually exist inside the computer, Tron style or at all.
With bcis (brain computer interfaces) in future iterations theoretically it could be used to manipulate dreams in certain ways, with this you can basically create entire virtual realities that are more convincing than real life itself
I think we'd have been "visited" already if it were possible to travel that far given the infinitely and unfathomable vastness of distances. We as humans would have to somehow perfect folding space and time in some way. That is, as we know now, impossible. There's no telling though. We've accomplished many great things thus far in some small steps.
??? We're surrounded by aliens. They literally litter our atmosphere and can be seen freely from the ISS. They're always cutting the feed. Aliens created us for chrissakes, read the Sumerian texts. The Gods of our past ... were aliens.
Realistically, every thing is based upon perceptions and imaginations which doesnot have any futuristic and realistic aspects for betterment of human civilisations.
"There will come a time, when we both want the same planet." Yeah, except given the nature of just this one galaxy, by the time that happens, we'd both know about each other. And that hasn't happened yet.
the transcension of alien species makes a lot of sense. We are thinking about colonising the galaxy physically travelling through space via aircraft, however its quite possible they've found some sort way to tune in a state of consciousness or occupy some sort of dimension that could be perhaps heavenly, safe and undetectable to us, who knows the true possibilities of advanced technology but it actually makes more sense to go that route
Maybe its as simple as .. A Roman can not puckup Fm/Am radio in any way and doesn't know it even exist..let alone its possible... only now we are the Roman's ....just like them we think we know something.. but we really don't in a Galactic scale
What if intelligent life on earth is a black swan in the universe? With all the possibilities, science tells us there should be other civilisations. But it is also possible that there aren't any and that we are just a funny coincidence - a whim of nature if u will.
You left out the Asshole Hypothesis; it's one step beyond the Zoo Hypothesis. Aliens have been studying our nonstop wars, depravity, genocides, slavery, deliberate spreading of disease and famine, terrorism, self-declared messiahs and cult leaders that advocate jihad and "holy war", burning of books, torture of heretics (anyone that questions "the faith"), continual rape and murder of innocents, glorification of serial killers and mass murderers as entertainment, and said "no, no, no. We're not touching that with a deep space probe"; and placed warning buoys around us in space. That would be the smartest thing they could do.
You could make the opposite argument: given the abundance of elements that produce life that have been found on other planets, and that each galaxy contains hundreds of billions of stars, and that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe, you could argue that the odds of life Not happening more than once in the universe is beyond possibility.
If I was an alien living on earth (for some unfortunate reason), I wouldn't tell you for my life's safety. If I was an alien visiting earth in orbit, I wouldn't land or come to visit earth in person for my life's safety. I'm a simple human with very limited intelligence. If these are my meager thoughts, what do you think the aliens think of us? Oh yeah, simply 2 words: stay away! There is probably a buoy near earth's orbit or the outer solar system transmitting this message: "to all ships entering this solar system: there is a intelligent but violent civilization on the third planet that murders other life forms including its own species. Do not approach or contact for your own safety! Ships crashed on this planet will not be retrieved and their crew will not be rescued."
What if the odds of forming an intelligent species (yes, like us) was simply less than one in 300 8:10 billion? Then there would be only a few per each galaxy. That would explain things. If true, the galaxy is our oyster
No matter how I agree there's yet "no evidence" of ETs, no matter how big the cosmos is, and no matter how difficult it is to reach a galaxy-class civilization status, I just cannot look up into the universe and think we are "alone." It's just too preposterous and smacks of many other kinds of human vanity which we've outgrown (more or less).
Science goes by facts, logic, and evidence. We must use science, technology, AI, AGI, and ASI to find out if there is (intelligent) life in the universe. Against all odds, so far no ET has found us and we have found no ET. 💕☮🌎🌌
Well now we know the question. And based on the comments of "Deep Thought" from the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" we know the answer is "Forty Two" . Now we just need to figure out how they fit together?
Considering the issues we are already facing in terms of resources management and availability, isn't it obvious that we would never have enough resources to venture out of our system? The cost of setting up spaceships of any kind in terms of resources to colonize another planet is just too high for us. We are limited by the access we have at start to those resources. There is simply no way to build an interstellar civilization. Plus considering distances, what is the point of having a colony you can only reach in 50 years? We have colonized for resources, but interstellar ones are just impossible for us to exploit. So considering cost and expected revenue, it seems obvious there is just no interest or case to venturing into space or even physical capability at our level.... so if we are bound to our system, chances are any ETs have the same limitattions which would explain why we have not seem them although they exist fo sure... the filter is just physical limits to growth ?
I always thought, why would aliens come with such few numbers. Why wouldn’t the send an armada? what’s the point of sending one have it captured and then only send one more.
You're assuming that all aliens are just as power hungry, evil, and greedy as humans are. That's a thought process, brought upon by the belief that we are the epitome of evolution, and that all other species must be just like us, or, worse, just more technologically advanced.
The Milky Way stretches between 100,000 and 180,000 light-years across, depending on where you measure, which means a signal broadcast from one side of the galaxy would take 100,000 years or more to reach the other side. Now consider that our species started broadcasting radio signals into space only about a century ago. That's represented by a small bubble measuring 200 light-years in diameter surrounding the position of the Earth. For any alien civilizations to have heard us, they must be within the bubble.
I listened to everything. They don't talk about it! That's why I say. All these aliens are just fakes, fantasies, fairy tales and the cover legend of the special services. They mask military programs, real UFOs, flying saucers and triangles - it's all purely terrestrial technology. First they were made in the USA, and now they have been copied both in Russia and in China. Now, in conditions of global tension, the appearance of Russian UFO-type reconnaissance vehicles near American military facilities is more than justified. But it is important to remember that this technique is secret, first used by the Americans themselves in 1947, they actively used UFOs for many years... But this technology, plasma propulsion panels, it is still not very convenient to use. Firstly, during the operation of high-frequency pulsed railgun cells that make up the motor panels, strong microwave radiation occurs. It (even when shielded by a Faraday grid) has a harmful effect on pilots. Therefore, it is impossible to fly on these devices all the time. Secondly, because of the microwave, it is impossible to maintain radio communication with the devices. And, thirdly, the lifting capacity of the devices is still small. That is why "flying saucers" are used in secret mode for espionage purposes. However, recently such a spy function has become irrelevant due to the opening of borders and the availability of new technologies (satellite tracking). I advise you to read Christopher Buckley's book "Little Green Men", which satirically talks about the secret UFO technique and the spread of misinformation about aliens and even about fake "kidnappings" to support the legend. K. Buckley was a speech writer for Bush Sr., he knew many secrets.😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Why would anyone want to do that, chat with Fermi? His last database is from the 50s... The whole discussion is as superfluous as a dead cat in the bed! If none comes up, it all remains a hypothesis, with a very flimsy basis (because it's too anthropocentric). But once we have the first contact, the whole thing is just waste paper. Why even waste a thought on it...?
What if other civilizations are NOT technologically advanced? We seem to assume that others in the universe are so much farther along. Without actually being able to "Date" time, it's conceivable that others may just beginning...so to speak.
Where I ask do we get our endorphins from if we are no longer in a human body or how do we fall in love if we are part of the machine and does this mean chemistry will become irrelevant. Feelings is what makes us do great things and Master aliens must be biological I'm sure.
His solution is “I’m unable to conceive or imagine a race with technology beyond our own-therefore I will compare aliens to humans with bad metaphors and since humans cant travel very far in space-aliens do not exist.”
Well it's a real question, you would need to travel faster than the speed of light for interstellar travel, if a civilization has visited us they have done that
@@deedeesjab4928 I've heard it in everything that chump has ever said. Him being famous is humanity confusing knowledge with intelligence. Neil couldn't conceptualize the outside of a box if you put it on his head.
We have studied 20 million stars, and not one can support life as they are ALL too unstable, we are alone. The Sun is the only stable star. Of the 4,100 solar systems studied, not one looks like our solar system, able to support life. Almost all the 4,100 solar systems studied have Hot Jupiters. In normal planetary systems giant planets form beyond snow line and then migrated towards the star. A small percentage of giant planets migrate far from the star. In both types of migrations, any rocky planet like an earth is lost in these planetary migrations. Most stars do not have planets. Many stars are in bi-star systems, thus no earth-type planets. Thus we are alone.
Alien life is already here visiting our world = According to UFO whistle blower David Grusch USAF Captain in Intelligence who has testified to SSIC and CSIC
Yeah, i think so too and the joke is they all work for the post office. I heard from multiple sources that those greys are not what they once were. They no longer have a digestive system, its just an empty sack. They have no gender either. They can vanish and re-appear at will. They have four fingers with sucker pads on the ends. They are a species that are degrading. IMHO.
@@paulford9120 So you dont watch the news buddy ? The US Navy released 3 UFO videos captured on FLIR and radar that cannot be explained = The 2004 UFO Nimitz encounter out performed the FA18s and defied the laws of physics caught on Spy One radar system. Now the US Congress and Senate want answers too buddy = 26th July open hearing of UFO whistle blowers testimonies on UFO cover up PLUS they supplied classified document to back up their claims buddy.
I always wondered if the answer maybe a simple practicality, If you are evolved intelligent life but live on a planet/ or in a solar system with not quite enough raw materials/ resources to either leave the solar system or bring technology to a point to be useful. For example can you imagine whether we could have got far without Coal or maybe oil (its not guaranteed that these would be produced).
Yes, coal and oil require plate tectonics. So far as we know our plate tectonics is a result of the collision between Thera and Earth that created our moon. No great impact, no fossil fuels, no fossil fuels no industry.
+ most liquid water found on moons/planets is trapped under the crust. If life forms there, its going to be very difficult to harness 'fire' and industry to the point of building anything, much less an interstellar spaceship.
If one assumes life evolves even a little bit often, then, given the huge number of stars (and other galaxies), the likelihood of goldilocks conditions is pretty substantial. If one posits life evolves elsewhere (even highly improbably) then the time is so vast and the number of potential sites so huge one has great difficulty in ruling all of them out (from developing into advanced species) - no explanation makes good sense. The obvious conclusion seems to be the premise - that there is life elsewhere - is wrong. I find it interesting how reluctant folks are to even really consider that. Rather they just reject it.
Maybe, we only need one lineage. Maybe, we're the first or the last. Most likely the first, or there might have been relics floating around, somewhere. Maybe, earth is where all aliens originate. Maybe, we become all other life. Maybe, we create all other life. Maybe, one day, IF we are the first and our lineages and our creation's lineages, intermingle and become one lineage. Maybe, one day that will happen, maybe one day, it did happen, maybe one day, we'll forget that it was ever so. Who can say? Maybe, someone else. probably not an Abrahamic god-figure, though, that's certain.
Unfortunately for us humble ordinary people, the truth will always be kept with some who are blessed with the ability to line up words and sentences that sound sophisticated for us to understand or make sense with; or those who control some sort of military capability and are so secretive that they would keep us guessing what their own fart would actually smell like.
Our star does not shine brightly enough to attract attention amongst the other 2 billion stars. If they are here then they discovered us by accident. The problem is this, the Pheonix lights, this thing that flew over that blocked out the stars was huge and then it just took off, being chased by 2 F16s. They turned off the ready to launch ICBMs. One landed outside a nuclear base and left marks on the forest floor + radiactivity. But the woohoo got him, that was a duck of around 1 metre. IMHO. !
when i started to watch Star trek Uhura the communication chief was communicating like a telephone operator with headset when i started to watch Star Wars the 'auto pilot' in the viper was a graphical nightmare when i started to watch Blake Seven the main computer Zen was Chat GPT with a voice. All scientific musing about aliens/space are projection of humanity and their current state of science/technology. So we can discuss all day about hypothetical scenario's, but in the end of the day we stare at our own projection. Just as within religion where it's called SPAG. Self Projection As God. Therefor this ''we could be part of an alien's game, matrix, computer rendering'' bla bla bla is CURRENTLY very popular. Simply a projection of our current idea's and time frame, but nothing is anything more than SPAG.
neil is forgetting what we do know. we know its not from here, we know it flys better than anything here, we know it can go in water, air and space, we know they travel at amazing speeds, we know they are elusive, we know they dont intend to make contact, we know they arent harming us and we know that their tech is beyond ours. lots of things we know that can provide context as to what it is: life outside of earth. deduction is all we need
Yeah, I saw that all on the History channel. Damfino how we *know* all that stuff from a buncha fuzzy ass pictures. They must be aliens their own selves.
Neil deGrasse: We can't put ourselves in the shoes of more advanced civilizations as our brain doesn't have the capacity for it. Also Neil: Draws parallels with European colonialism and how aliens would behave. Neil is out of it
What is your favorite solution to the Fermi paradox?
Alien life is already here visiting our world = According to UFO whistle blower David Grusch USAF Captain in Intelligence who has testified to SSIC and CSIC. Apparently the Aliens do not want to open contact and prefer to study us from a distance as observed by the US Navy UFO encounters caught on video.
Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala... of course! what else
The Zoo Hypothesis: We just simply are not as smart as we think we are. We are still just warring tribes of primates. We still believe in fairytales and those fairytales have held us back and are holding us back.
We are alone
They are here. They know all about us. They just think we’re dickheads.
The Universe is just too damn big.
And continues to grow.
Or maybe, any intelligent species, wouldn't want anything to do with us. We have nothing of worth to offer, and have displayed over and over, that the most successful, the leaders of humans, are deceitful, lying, greedy, mean, selfish beings. And the rest of us aspire to be just like them, if we can.
Whoa tooo BIG™
ANYWEIGH , it's all
bullCrap,, cause even get there tomorrow, where would you BE
!!!???..... NOWHERE !!!!!!
Pretty stupid idea all the hulabaloo !!!! ❌
Go sit on the moon is FAR FAR FAR better, THEN you will see how STUPID IT IS !!! it's childish thinking go to a billion miles away , FOR WHAT !!!!!?????
It's mass madness!!!!!!
Can't even save THIS planet !!!!!! INSIDIOUS..
NASA ELON ARE BONKERS, we are NOT Buck Rogers material. 👾sorry, but it's immature EGO !!!
Thankyou!! and give me my Nobel peace prize please..
You need to talk to God about that.
He loves criticism.
If humanity ever does become a spacefaring species and are able to visit other inhabited worlds, let's just make patterns in their crops and leave.
I'm down! Let's Gooooooo!
me too !!!@@MeganVictoriaKearns
YES, LOLOLOLOL
Alien civilizations advanced enough to travel throughout the universe will likely have the technology to avoid detection by our primitive equipment.
This is why we needed Sharper Image
These kinds of thoughts are kinda like Neil, they need to get an overhaul. Ask yourself, why does congress have a new Bill getting passed right now with words like NON HUMAN INTELLIGENCE or OTHER WORLD TECH? Why are these whistleblowers that are coming out now are basically saying the same thing that has been said over the years by others? Maybe we should go back to doing an actual hypothesis because this is not it. I see more of IT CAN’T BE TRUE or just straight up attempts of debunking. I can assure you with all the education in the world, Neil is a dinosaur with this topic and this is coming from a supporter of him.
@@vectorfox4782the catalog?
If alien advanced civilizations could travel through space, and had that much advanced technology, why hide? We wouldn't be a threat
@@chuco915C they used to have actual stores in the 90s and early 2000’s full of unique yet useless gadgets
If aliens have ever visited Earth, now just consider this:
In terms of distance scales in space, if we imagine creating a scale model where the Sun is the size of a basketball, then the Sun's nearest neighbour, a star named Proxima Centauri is roughly the size of a golf ball (1/7th the diameter of the basketball).
Proxima Centauri is roughly 4.2 lightyears away. One lightyear is just shy of 10 trillion km's. So in rough rounded numbers, it's about 40 trillion km's to Proxima Centauri.
In our scale model, where the Sun is the size of a basketball, to get the correct distance, the golf ball needs to be about 7,200 km's away from the basketball.
In 1977 NASA launched Voyager 1. It's been traveling through space for nearly 46 years. It is the most distant object ever put into space by humans. It is currently about 160 AU from the Sun.
But where Proxima Centuri is 4.2 light years away, Voyager 1 is only 22 light hours away. We haven't even managed to make it one light day away (much less a light year) in 46 of space travel.
If you do the maths, the journey would take Voyager something like 75,000 to 80,000 years to make the one-way journey (Voyager is not headed in the direction of Proxima Centauri. But if it were it would take that amount of time to reach it.) In that scale model where the distance between the Sun and Proxima Centauri is about 7,200 km's Voyager has traveled roughly 3.2 of those km's after nearly 46 years of flying through space.
You might be thinking
"Ah, but we could just build faster spacecraft." and whilst that's technically true, it really misses the mark. 80,000 years, even if we doubled the speed is still 40,000 years. Think about what homo-sapiens were doing on Earth 40,000 years ago. If we made a spacecraft that could go 10 times faster it would still take around 8000 years, an amount of time that is longer than the 'recorded' history of humans (not the whole history of humans just the history long enough for us to have any written record.)
Suppose we want to make the one-way trip in only 100 years. There is no chemical reaction that can deliver enough energy to do that. What if we switch to nuclear propulsion? Nuclear reactions only convert about 1% of mass to energy, even nuclear engines can't do it.
If you get exotic, suppose you use an engine based on matter/anti-matter reactions. Anti-matter is a real thing. Particle accelerators produce tiny amounts of it. If one particle of anti-matter comes into contact with one particle of normal matter, both particles annihilate with a 100% mass to energy conversion. That could get a ship to Proxima Centauri in only 100 years.
The 'problem' with this is that this is physics and not engineering. Laws of physics are not violated. But this isn't the same as actually engineering such a ship. There are a crazy number of other problems that you would encounter if you actually tried to build such a machine. One of those problems would be obtaining the anti-matter. The amount of anti-matter produced by particle accelerators is tiny. One estimate I read is that if you were going to try to get a supply of anti-matter it would cost about 4 trillion US dollars per gram ! If that number is correct, then spacecraft based on anti-matter is probably not on the cards.
Suppose our ET neighbours have figured out how to churn out anti-matter as fast as humans can churn out plastic. OK but remember that this thought experiment was just to get to the nearest neighboring star and it still takes 100 years. A unlimited supply of anti-matter still wouldn't make such journeys easy.
There are alternatives, could you build a solar sail large enough ? In 'physics' sure. You'd need a solar sail larger than the state of Tasmania. In 'engineering' good luck building and deploying a solar sail larger than the state of Tasmania (and how much would that weigh?) How would you even launch it into space? How would you pack it and how would you unfold it when it is ready to fly ? How do you plan to stop when you arrive at the next star system ? How would you keep anything alive for such a period of time ?
These are just some of the thoughts that come to mind when someone says we've been visited by extra-terrestrials from beyond the solar system.
Science fiction stories allow for faster-than-light travel because the stories would be really boring if the authors had to obey actual physics. I'd love for this to be true, but the rational side of me realises that whilst there is most likely life beyond our solar system, we are likely hopelessly exiled from each other.
Ok so youre using proxima centauri as a base , what about other anomalies in our solar system such as jupiters frozen ice moon europa that takes only 3 years to reach? Your entire theory is based upon these "aliens" being an impossible distance away as a result of technology we ourselves have on earth ? They say the nearest inhabitable planet is potentially kepler 186f which is only 500 years way from earth , and thats just based on our current technology.... Your whole hypothesis is clearly overwhelmed by bias.
Absolutely fascinating thought experiment, thanks for taking the time to write something thought provoking :)
That's why you need my craft that I launched from Hoedspruit SA.
one word - wormhole - tired of hearing how "we' can't get anywhere - forget about using any technology that we understand.
@@hillsidemoan wormholes, black holes, other dimensions ?
All total woo woo.
Prove me wrong using science.
No rush, I'll wait !
Great job, loved the video, recommend it!
The one thing that the Fermi Paradox doesn’t include in it’s calculation………..
…….Politicians.
They fermu paradox doesn't in Clyde is the trillions of years of civilization these primate apes secret space programs people take like terrible genecidists called mib and trilateral commission people. Who will build the boundary and the the protections, certainly ever these ignorant for wrong would they be and do in every presumption for all their knowledge know not wisdom or reverence.
Gods live you too and also remember. Gods are not what we as a civilization call ourselves back home or in our mutual company. God also isn't anyone paradox, like a one drive a paradox never a paradox.
7:21 It’s the best the government will show us Neil🤣 They got a lot more they’re not showing the public
1:05 ...you're going to pitch tent...🤣
No mention of the Rare Earth Hypothesis.
Intelligent life is a relative term is life truly intelligent if they are continually fighting each other.
I know where you are coming from, but when they say "intelligent" they mean life that is able to start a civilization, live in community, work together, and send spaceships or messages across space and time.
We wont last long enuff to see any of this
So what if it's our expectation which is flawed? Our perception of them as having human motivations for doing, or not doing gets in the way I feel, so until we actually meet them face to face, we aren't going to understand aliens at all, because we are too human-centric.
Exactly. Ive said this for years, the Fermi Paradox is flawed from the get go as it anthropomorphizes alien behaviour.
100% with you. Human-centric is the key. An alien race could exist and thrive for millions of years without a single individual ever being interested in physically leaving their planet to explore space. Exploration as a concept may not even exist for an intelligent species that evolved under completely different conditions. The need to see what's beyond the horizon may be a uniquely human concept.
Exploration and expansion is ingrained in life itself, not just human life, with survival at it's very core. All planets have limited resources and space. All stars have a timer. Eventually, if nothing cathasrophic happens, they all will arrive to the same thing, move forward or die.
How can we assume that all life forms will advance to a technological age on an emerging planet? Today there are many societies on earth , who have maintained a lower tech culture and are thriving well in their own society.
animals use tools so it's easy to say with time life forms become more intelligent
The question of "where are they?" is inextricably tied to "when are they?" Our signals/technology would have to intersect and allow for the response time to communicate. Maybe once a civilization reaches a point where a small number of bad actors can do apocalyptic harm, the odds are greatly against longevity, reducing the window-of-opportunity for communication to a tiny sliver of time within the billions of years it might take for intelligent life to evolve. Could be that there are radio signals travelling between stars, even between galaxies, that are nothing but the epitaphs of dead civilizations. Those signals will whizz by at the speed of light, maybe we'll be listening during our sliver of time, and then be forever thereafter unavailable to us. Maybe Voyager-like satellites containing AI libraries are the inter-galactic tombstones that archive the best of a dying alien civilization.
What if it's as simple as, "we're not speaking the same language"? Humans use RF to transmit signals - what if advanced civilizations are using an alternate medium - say, photons (aka: light), for example? We'd be missing it.
experts are already doing that
What if it's even simpler - there ain't nobody out there? "Oh, the universe it too damn big for there not to be anybody there!" Really? How big does the universe need to be before there are are space goomers driving around in flying saucers and broadcasting ads for for sorry teevee shows?
Are ET using expert US naval flags. ? We would never think of that.
Great message and inspiration in this episode.
Oh please, please... Show me, where it is!
"Beam me up Scotty, there's NO intelligent life on this planet." --JTK
Every few years we find something we cant explain. I believe something has already been here.
06:56 This Is Indeed Too Crazy.. When You Look At It Like This ..
At what point did we all agree that aliens look like small green bald hairless apes with extra big heads and giant bug eyes? It seems a kind of nonimaginative conceptualization, but we've stuck with it for half a century or more. idk
I love Neil's rational explanations to how the world works.
I hate them. He's arrogant. He denies the existence of aliens here.
I continue to be astounded at the ignorance of supposed smart people, who have no clue of just how awful humans are, which is why no alien species want anything to do with us. The enormous ego of these people, who just automatically assume we are so fascinating, so wonderful, that everyone would want to rush to our planet and introduce themselves to us.
Much more likely, is that they see us the same way we see ants or bees, an interesting species, but one with so limited potential.
I totally and completely support this comment! ❤❤❤
Having made sightings. that were in no way explainable given, our current understandings of the laws of physics or the elements required for any human developed air craft, I have to take issue with Tyson's question of, "Where are they." Keep in mind, I'm not alone in the experience I had.Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people have seen them. So, to answer his rhetorical question, they're here, now,. Despite what we think we know about the laws of physics.I'm also reminded of the statements by recognized and respected scientists that once made the statement, "Man will never fly." Our knowledge is never complete. If we keep studying things, our knowledge of science changes, grows, and is refined. But first, we have to be open to the possibility.
Every filter u can think of is a great filter. I just think the odds are soo small but we cant understand ot because we made it to here
I like to think that if there are highly advanced species out there, they have been aware of us since the signals from our nuclear weapons reached them and that they are waiting to see if we survive Oppenheimer’s folly. We know that intelligence isn’t an evolutionary advantage since it took billions of years to develop here and there is no sign of it in the fossil record. I believe that the great filter is intelligence and that it is very rare to make it past nuclear extinction.
But an 80 light-year radius is a very small region of space. We are working on the ability to study exoplanet atmospheres. I suspect we would have been detectable for centuries if they used this technology. They might have noticed that smoke had a cycle from us heating our cities in the winter.
Let say alien life did detect out nuclear radiation and or detention or work. That would have to be within 78 light years of earth, and or have probs within 78 light years of earth that had faster then light communication, to even know that we have used nuclear weapons or nuclear technologies. Understand that we have only had nuclear technology for 78 years, furthermore we have only had radio technology since 1890, so 133 years so I can confidently saw any alien civilization would have to be within 133 light year of earth to hear us, and that isn't likely that cause due to our early radios were so weak they wouldn't have be able to travel that far. Further more, let's say they used a similar technology to our to read what's in our atmosphere, looking for key signatures or like (oxygen) they could have know that this planet could have life on it for thousands of years, millions of years, but may not have had the ability to know weather their was civilizations unless they continually study our world for thousands of millions of years.
In my belief I would say life itself is far more rare then we believe. Let's take a look at one example. We believe that a primordial ooze started all life on earth, yet we have no figures out what or how that primordial ooze start or what it was composed of, and that having the prefect match of chemical in the right spot with the right about of light/darkness, right about of radiation, gravity, moons, atmosphere is correct, let's just say the change of that happening is 1 in a billion. Now continue let say over the 3.7 billion years life has been on earth, the tittle odds that life will evolve to become intelligent, is 1 and 100 trillion. That would make it so, that the odds of their being planets with life likely, but planets with life and is intelligent extremely unlikely, and extremely rare, and out of the 50 billion galaxies that we can see, each having 300 million earth life worlds which would mean out of the 1.5e19 world that are earth like, only 1500 have intelligent life out of 50 billion galaxies. Now saying out of that 1500 world, how many will make it to space, how many will destroy themselves, how many will figure out how to get to another world, how many????? So the idea that intelligent life has been to earth is low, the likelihood that those 1500 intelligent life world existed at the same time... I'm not sure. Now every number I stated is a guess, need someone with a much high education then me to do this
We show no signs of being an intelligent species. Our history is absolutely filled with violence, murder, lying, deceit, and other awful behavior; we have been at war almost constantly through our history. Even look at the technologies, many of which weren't even the best ones available, but the ones that we used were simply marketed better, or worse, the better ones were sabotaged in order for the inferior one to become the most commonly used, with only the greed of the 'winner' being what made the choice for us. Intelligent? You're kidding me.
@@elmerwhitaker7852 Its also possible they have probes in space within a few light years away that have instantaneous communication. They can then warp from however far away they live to the probe that went off, which might be in the nearest star system to us. Our first nuclear testing was in the early 40s and then along came supposed roswell and alien news in the mid 40s. The closest star system is 4.3 light years away. It would fit the time frame if they were from there or had probes there. Our branches of secret officials hide everything from us it wouldn't be surprising if they are the ones asking aliens to conceal themselves for the fear of humanity collapsing. I dont believe religions have a place in space and only create problems and fighting within a race so maybe they are letting them die down before revealing anything. Atleast from my experience I personally dont think I know anybody that regularly attends a religious mass anymore. The newer generation is moving towards a more scientific stance.
They are our ancesters!
Our galaxy very well may have a multitude of civilizations....and they are all in the same boat as us! No "warp" space travel, no "wormhole" technology, and listening to the background noise hoping to hear "somebody" when we don't even have a clue what they would sound like! If they have been broadcasting long enough for it to even reach us!
What movie was that in the beginning ?
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
Next video, "Neil on the Dark Forest hypothesis."
I'm all for it!
life becoming digital is just stupid. aside from the problem of needing computers for digital to exist, in a computer's memory, in a computer simulation or virtual world, there are no actual objects or people or places. in a computer simulation or virtual world, a computer is just running calculations using dynamically updated data to figure out what would happen in a given scenario. Then, in cases where there is a monitor or other visual output device attached, graphics hardware/software draws updated images using the aforementioned calculations. if it does this fast enough, you've got a video showing what some hypothetical situation would look and act like. The reality is that there are no actual things in a virtual world in a computer. at best, you'd have have programs that could calculate what particular people would have done in a given scenario using data about that person's brain but the person that was scanned and then who's body was presumably destroyed doesn't actually exist inside the computer, Tron style or at all.
With bcis (brain computer interfaces) in future iterations theoretically it could be used to manipulate dreams in certain ways, with this you can basically create entire virtual realities that are more convincing than real life itself
I think we'd have been "visited" already if it were possible to travel that far given the infinitely and unfathomable vastness of distances. We as humans would have to somehow perfect folding space and time in some way. That is, as we know now, impossible. There's no telling though. We've accomplished many great things thus far in some small steps.
Spiritual growth is the Star Beings major concern. Very high benevolent energy.
??? We're surrounded by aliens. They literally litter our atmosphere and can be seen freely from the ISS. They're always cutting the feed. Aliens created us for chrissakes, read the Sumerian texts. The Gods of our past ... were aliens.
Realistically, every thing is based upon perceptions and imaginations which doesnot have any futuristic and realistic aspects for betterment of human civilisations.
Fermi Paradox: If aliens visited earth and Fermi didn't see them, were they really here?
"There will come a time, when we both want the same planet." Yeah, except given the nature of just this one galaxy, by the time that happens, we'd both know about each other. And that hasn't happened yet.
They don't exist in the form of an EXTERNAL entity. Advanced species exist, in the seas and in the skies of earth.
the transcension of alien species makes a lot of sense. We are thinking about colonising the galaxy physically travelling through space via aircraft, however its quite possible they've found some sort way to tune in a state of consciousness or occupy some sort of dimension that could be perhaps heavenly, safe and undetectable to us, who knows the true possibilities of advanced technology but it actually makes more sense to go that route
Or... there are no aliens. We are simply alone.
Of course aliens have visited the Earth, but having met T-Rex they now give the planet a wide berth...
Where are they? They are here.
If there is so much gold in the world, why is there none in my pocket right now? it’s a nonsense paradox
weird they didnt mention the wow signal
Maybe its as simple as .. A Roman can not puckup Fm/Am radio in any way and doesn't know it even exist..let alone its possible... only now we are the Roman's ....just like them we think we know something.. but we really don't in a Galactic scale
What if intelligent life on earth is a black swan in the universe? With all the possibilities, science tells us there should be other civilisations. But it is also possible that there aren't any and that we are just a funny coincidence - a whim of nature if u will.
Prior to asking why alien civilizations and us are not in contact with each other, why not better concentrate on populating our own solar system?
You left out the Asshole Hypothesis; it's one step beyond the Zoo Hypothesis. Aliens have been studying our nonstop wars, depravity, genocides, slavery, deliberate spreading of disease and famine, terrorism, self-declared messiahs and cult leaders that advocate jihad and "holy war", burning of books, torture of heretics (anyone that questions "the faith"), continual rape and murder of innocents, glorification of serial killers and mass murderers as entertainment, and said "no, no, no. We're not touching that with a deep space probe"; and placed warning buoys around us in space. That would be the smartest thing they could do.
Suppose they don't have any inclination to spread out, or they breed at a rate that does not require them to?
I think the odds of life happening twice in a universe is beyond the possibility.
You're not very good at probability then.
You could make the opposite argument: given the abundance of elements that produce life that have been found on other planets, and that each galaxy contains hundreds of billions of stars, and that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe, you could argue that the odds of life Not happening more than once in the universe is beyond possibility.
Why are they not here? Why are we not there? What goes around, comes around. All living creatures have their limits across the universe!
Probably going at the ridiculous speeds needed for galactic travel is either as impossible or as suicidly dangerous for 'them' as it would be for us.
in space with no gravity, it wouldnt be harmful to the body. once you hit gravity youre screwed. which is why i dont think theyre manned aircrafts
If I was an alien living on earth (for some unfortunate reason), I wouldn't tell you for my life's safety.
If I was an alien visiting earth in orbit, I wouldn't land or come to visit earth in person for my life's safety.
I'm a simple human with very limited intelligence. If these are my meager thoughts, what do you think the aliens think of us? Oh yeah, simply 2 words: stay away!
There is probably a buoy near earth's orbit or the outer solar system transmitting this message: "to all ships entering this solar system: there is a intelligent but violent civilization on the third planet that murders other life forms including its own species. Do not approach or contact for your own safety! Ships crashed on this planet will not be retrieved and their crew will not be rescued."
What if the odds of forming an intelligent species (yes, like us) was simply less than one in 300 8:10 billion? Then there would be only a few per each galaxy. That would explain things. If true, the galaxy is our oyster
No matter how I agree there's yet "no evidence" of ETs, no matter how big the cosmos is, and no matter how difficult it is to reach a galaxy-class civilization status, I just cannot look up into the universe and think we are "alone." It's just too preposterous and smacks of many other kinds of human vanity which we've outgrown (more or less).
Science goes by facts, logic, and evidence. We must use science, technology, AI, AGI, and ASI to find out if there is (intelligent) life in the universe. Against all odds, so far no ET has found us and we have found no ET. 💕☮🌎🌌
We don't see them it is simply because they don't exist. It is not a paradox, it's a statement!
Neil needs his own close encounter
He probably doesn't do the right drugs for that sort of thing.
Aliens, may not be curious about us, and they could be at a wavelength, beyond our ability to observe them.
Or there ain't none.
When it comes to alien life in the universe i think of the warhammer40k hypothesis
Dr. Tyson, how do you explain Skinwalker Ranch? Seeing grainy military videos still shows "something" speeding through the sky and going underwater?
Dear Dr. Neil : Apparently they are in Peru ! !
Maybe they just don't care about us, maybe we are the ones with the higher technology.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is the filter
we cannot travel fast enough to explore
Well now we know the question. And based on the comments of "Deep Thought" from the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" we know the answer is "Forty Two" . Now we just need to figure out how they fit together?
Would love to know what NDGT thinks of the Dark Forest hypothesis.
Considering the issues we are already facing in terms of resources management and availability, isn't it obvious that we would never have enough resources to venture out of our system? The cost of setting up spaceships of any kind in terms of resources to colonize another planet is just too high for us. We are limited by the access we have at start to those resources. There is simply no way to build an interstellar civilization. Plus considering distances, what is the point of having a colony you can only reach in 50 years? We have colonized for resources, but interstellar ones are just impossible for us to exploit. So considering cost and expected revenue, it seems obvious there is just no interest or case to venturing into space or even physical capability at our level.... so if we are bound to our system, chances are any ETs have the same limitattions which would explain why we have not seem them although they exist fo sure... the filter is just physical limits to growth ?
Once it got to "speculation" the bit about what if the entities had turned themselves digital.......Necrons all I heard from 40K
I always thought, why would aliens come with such few numbers. Why wouldn’t the send an armada? what’s the point of sending one have it captured and then only send one more.
We would send robots before sending humans. When we send humans I bet we don't send thousands or even hundreds.
You're assuming that all aliens are just as power hungry, evil, and greedy as humans are. That's a thought process, brought upon by the belief that we are the epitome of evolution, and that all other species must be just like us, or, worse, just more technologically advanced.
The Milky Way stretches between 100,000 and 180,000 light-years across, depending on where you measure, which means a signal broadcast from one side of the galaxy would take 100,000 years or more to reach the other side. Now consider that our species started broadcasting radio signals into space only about a century ago. That's represented by a small bubble measuring 200 light-years in diameter surrounding the position of the Earth. For any alien civilizations to have heard us, they must be within the bubble.
I listened to everything. They don't talk about it! That's why I say. All these aliens are just fakes, fantasies, fairy tales and the cover legend of the special services. They mask military programs, real UFOs, flying saucers and triangles - it's all purely terrestrial technology. First they were made in the USA, and now they have been copied both in Russia and in China. Now, in conditions of global tension, the appearance of Russian UFO-type reconnaissance vehicles near American military facilities is more than justified. But it is important to remember that this technique is secret, first used by the Americans themselves in 1947, they actively used UFOs for many years... But this technology, plasma propulsion panels, it is still not very convenient to use. Firstly, during the operation of high-frequency pulsed railgun cells that make up the motor panels, strong microwave radiation occurs. It (even when shielded by a Faraday grid) has a harmful effect on pilots. Therefore, it is impossible to fly on these devices all the time. Secondly, because of the microwave, it is impossible to maintain radio communication with the devices. And, thirdly, the lifting capacity of the devices is still small. That is why "flying saucers" are used in secret mode for espionage purposes. However, recently such a spy function has become irrelevant due to the opening of borders and the availability of new technologies (satellite tracking). I advise you to read Christopher Buckley's book "Little Green Men", which satirically talks about the secret UFO technique and the spread of misinformation about aliens and even about fake "kidnappings" to support the legend. K. Buckley was a speech writer for Bush Sr., he knew many secrets.😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
I would love to be able to have a conversation with him, to ask questions, get answers, and push my and his understanding of the Fermi paradox.
Why would anyone want to do that, chat with Fermi? His last database is from the 50s... The whole discussion is as superfluous as a dead cat in the bed! If none comes up, it all remains a hypothesis, with a very flimsy basis (because it's too anthropocentric). But once we have the first contact, the whole thing is just waste paper. Why even waste a thought on it...?
Lol sure bud I'm sure he would learn lots
@melchiorvonsternberg844 this is what an idiot would say
@melchiorvonsternberg844 if u have to ask u.can never know
What if other civilizations are NOT technologically advanced? We seem to assume that others in the universe are so much farther along. Without actually being able to "Date" time, it's conceivable that others may just beginning...so to speak.
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Where I ask do we get our endorphins from if we are no longer in a human body or how do we fall in love if we are part of the machine and does this mean chemistry will become irrelevant. Feelings is what makes us do great things and Master aliens must be biological I'm sure.
Sure, why not?
His solution is “I’m unable to conceive or imagine a race with technology beyond our own-therefore I will compare aliens to humans with bad metaphors and since humans cant travel very far in space-aliens do not exist.”
When did you hear that?
Well it's a real question, you would need to travel faster than the speed of light for interstellar travel, if a civilization has visited us they have done that
@@deedeesjab4928 I've heard it in everything that chump has ever said. Him being famous is humanity confusing knowledge with intelligence. Neil couldn't conceptualize the outside of a box if you put it on his head.
Someone with a V.H.S 📼player can't use D.V.D discs💽 . That's in the space of less than ten years. Imagine a space of Twenty million. years. ⏳
They are already here.
We Are The Only Ones 100%
Cosmos are Just 2 big
They do have hard evidence, They just won't let you see it or touch it.
So, where in the heck are they?. With our current technology trying to cross our galaxy, it would be like a snail trying to cross planet earth.
Maybe its them who put us on earth 🌍 in the first place ?🤔
Stop watching Prometheus
We have studied 20 million stars, and not one can support life as they are ALL too unstable, we are alone. The Sun is the only stable star. Of the 4,100 solar systems studied, not one looks like our solar system, able to support life. Almost all the 4,100 solar systems studied have Hot Jupiters. In normal planetary systems giant planets form beyond snow line and then migrated towards the star. A small percentage of giant planets migrate far from the star. In both types of migrations, any rocky planet like an earth is lost in these planetary migrations. Most stars do not have planets. Many stars are in bi-star systems, thus no earth-type planets. Thus we are alone.
Why would they have any interest in our situation? Much nicer planets to visit for a beach holiday.
khoya Neil, dik alien 3atik sba3 kibanli ana
Alien life is already here visiting our world = According to UFO whistle blower David Grusch USAF Captain in Intelligence who has testified to SSIC and CSIC
Yeah, i think so too and the joke is they all work for the post office. I heard from multiple sources that those greys are not what they once were. They no longer have a digestive system, its just an empty sack. They have no gender either. They can vanish and re-appear at will. They have four fingers with sucker pads on the ends. They are a species that are degrading. IMHO.
Without tangible evidence, it's just another tall tale.
@@paulford9120 So you dont watch the news buddy ? The US Navy released 3 UFO videos captured on FLIR and radar that cannot be explained = The 2004 UFO Nimitz encounter out performed the FA18s and defied the laws of physics caught on Spy One radar system. Now the US Congress and Senate want answers too buddy = 26th July open hearing of UFO whistle blowers testimonies on UFO cover up PLUS they supplied classified document to back up their claims buddy.
We are alone in the Universe. Life will never happen again on any other planet.
We are a one and done thing. We are indeed an anomaly of anomalies.
It's virtually impossible to prove either way it goes. Sentient life is definitely a rarity though.
I always wondered if the answer maybe a simple practicality, If you are evolved intelligent life but live on a planet/ or in a solar system with not quite enough raw materials/ resources to either leave the solar system or bring technology to a point to be useful. For example can you imagine whether we could have got far without Coal or maybe oil (its not guaranteed that these would be produced).
Yes, coal and oil require plate tectonics. So far as we know our plate tectonics is a result of the collision between Thera and Earth that created our moon. No great impact, no fossil fuels, no fossil fuels no industry.
Exactly. If our planet had never had a Carboniferous period, our technology might never have advanced beyond the Middle Ages.
+ most liquid water found on moons/planets is trapped under the crust. If life forms there, its going to be very difficult to harness 'fire' and industry to the point of building anything, much less an interstellar spaceship.
If one assumes life evolves even a little bit often, then, given the huge number of stars (and other galaxies), the likelihood of goldilocks conditions is pretty substantial.
If one posits life evolves elsewhere (even highly improbably) then the time is so vast and the number of potential sites so huge one has great difficulty in ruling all of them out (from developing into advanced species) - no explanation makes good sense.
The obvious conclusion seems to be the premise - that there is life elsewhere - is wrong.
I find it interesting how reluctant folks are to even really consider that. Rather they just reject it.
Maybe, we only need one lineage. Maybe, we're the first or the last. Most likely the first, or there might have been relics floating around, somewhere. Maybe, earth is where all aliens originate. Maybe, we become all other life. Maybe, we create all other life. Maybe, one day, IF we are the first and our lineages and our creation's lineages, intermingle and become one lineage. Maybe, one day that will happen, maybe one day, it did happen, maybe one day, we'll forget that it was ever so. Who can say? Maybe, someone else. probably not an Abrahamic god-figure, though, that's certain.
“You gotta do better than that to convince an astrophysicist.” Enter Loeb and Kaku…so disappointed in Neil.
Unfortunately for us humble ordinary people, the truth will always be kept with some who are blessed with the ability to line up words and sentences that sound sophisticated for us to understand or make sense with; or those who control some sort of military capability and are so secretive that they would keep us guessing what their own fart would actually smell like.
"What is your favorite solution to the Fermi paradox?" - that we are the first.....
Or, just maybe WE ARE the most intelligent life, and it's WE who will colonize the galaxy. Perhaps we are the first to explore space.
Our star does not shine brightly enough to attract attention amongst the other 2 billion stars. If they are here then they discovered us by accident. The problem is this, the Pheonix lights, this thing that flew over that blocked out the stars was huge and then it just took off, being chased by 2 F16s. They turned off the ready to launch ICBMs. One landed outside a nuclear base and left marks on the forest floor + radiactivity. But the woohoo got him, that was a duck of around 1 metre. IMHO. !
yeah when people understand how small we are compared to other objects it will be easier to comprehend the possibilities of other life forms
when i started to watch Star trek Uhura the communication chief was communicating like a telephone operator with headset
when i started to watch Star Wars the 'auto pilot' in the viper was a graphical nightmare
when i started to watch Blake Seven the main computer Zen was Chat GPT with a voice.
All scientific musing about aliens/space are projection of humanity and their current state of science/technology.
So we can discuss all day about hypothetical scenario's, but in the end of the day we stare at our own projection. Just as within religion where it's called SPAG. Self Projection As God.
Therefor this ''we could be part of an alien's game, matrix, computer rendering'' bla bla bla is CURRENTLY very popular. Simply a projection of our current idea's and time frame, but nothing is anything more than SPAG.
Let's just suppose that other life is out there and flying by. Don't you think they would tell their crew to lock their doors ? Raise shields !
neil is forgetting what we do know. we know its not from here, we know it flys better than anything here, we know it can go in water, air and space, we know they travel at amazing speeds, we know they are elusive, we know they dont intend to make contact, we know they arent harming us and we know that their tech is beyond ours. lots of things we know that can provide context as to what it is: life outside of earth. deduction is all we need
Yeah, I saw that all on the History channel. Damfino how we *know* all that stuff from a buncha fuzzy ass pictures. They must be aliens their own selves.
Neil deGrasse: We can't put ourselves in the shoes of more advanced civilizations as our brain doesn't have the capacity for it. Also Neil: Draws parallels with European colonialism and how aliens would behave.
Neil is out of it
Faster than light travel seems to be related to nuclear energy for sure. That's why the aliens are interested in our nuclear tech.
there's no paradox.
they're already here.
Have you seen them Neil.? 9 footers in Texas. 10 footers in Vegas. and they do not need to carry step ladders. ?