Well There's Your Problem | Episode 103: St. Francis Dam Failure
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
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Factorio is secretly the worlds best train simulator, because not only do you get to build the railroad, you get to program the the switching system as well. And then get run over by the train.
The circle of life
Don't forget the manifest destiny
Is there a speedrun category called Brian Wilson?
OpenTTD with programmable signals would like a word.....
i wish getting rails up and running was easier to do earlier in the game though
The biggest disaster in the history of LA only second to founding the city in the first place.
Disagree, because it happened in Ventura County.
The problem was they didn’t really found the city properly, it just kinda sprawled forever. LA needed central planning and urbanization from the jump
@@nickjohnson7494 LA needed central planning, instead they got the Department of Power and Water. LAs future is Blade Runner meets Chinatown, with Immorten Joe telling Jack Nicholson "leave it alone, it's only water"
Does LA have a right to exist? Now that it does?
@@bbqchezit it doesn’t have a right to be that big, horizontally. LA needs to build vertical- and seriously look into desalinization plants on a large scale
I'll say again: if you're going to do California water failures, Salton Sea needs to be next. Created by a colossal canal failure; tried to become a luxury resort mid-century; now a colossal environmental disaster with dead fish and poisonous dust; and (maybe) soon to become a source of lithium for ev batteries.
On the plus side, if you ever want to see Fallout in real life, it has some real choice locations for that
And it's a railroad story. After the original irrigation canal was breached in the early 1900s Southern Pacific spend a fortune to reroute the Colorado River back to its original course.
@@bobsmith2637 "Trains good, canals bad"??
@@craigdickson7697 YES
Yes, and a plus to doing the Salton Sea is one of your pieces of research can be the delightful John Waters-narrated 2004 documentary "Plagues and Pleasures of the Salton Sea"
1:04:23 "No, I would not enjoy being under fifty feet of silt.:
My sediments exactly.
the fine for the garbage fire was 50 lakh rupees, a lakh is *100,000 rupees* , the fine was 5,000,000 INR, $65,350 US, which for the US is not a ton of money but is also 34.96 times the average yearly salary in india
If the US gave an equivalent fine to amazon it would be a $1,788,000 fine which would still be nothing for Amazon but for an Indian municipal garbage company it’s not an insignificant amount of money
Counterpoint: the wealth disparity in india is way worse than the US, so its entirely possible that the fine is large, but still just the "cost of doing business" since they make so much more money dumping garbage without having to do much or pay anybody
@@AsbestosMuffins fair enough, this is entirely possible, although I would still argue it's a bit more than the slap on the wrist fine of 5 lakh rupees that the hosts thought it was, india at least had the respect to do the pretense of caring by handing out the fine
@@Max._Power America's superpower is the legal loophole. The implication is that the powers that be say "meh, who cares" but really, Amazon's legal team is good enough to avoid culpability by manipulating the already written laws in place initially to punish or dissuade this type of thing. But like most things in America, it was a great idea when implemented, and now out of date and not current with the times. America was once a really nice car that has since been driven a half-million miles without a tuneup or oil change.
@@AsbestosMuffins Confirmation bias as the population is several times that of the US and India is not even remotely as developed with nearly all of the population except for a few percentage points working in the informal economy.
My god that’s Justin in post production with a steel chair.
Fun fact. If you play this episode at 30x speed, the bleeps will play "Keep the Red Flag Flying".
oh wow, I heard Engels "Conditions of the Working Class" but in beepy boopy code... Morris code. thats the stuff.
Darn, my extension only allows me to up to 16x speed.
For you to be able to play at that speed, you must have downloaded a copy of the video, I presume you obtained the original Raw files directly off Rocz's computer
When they give you the 100K plaque they give you the offer to buy extra plaques for your team. Only the first one is free.
Source: I got one
I did a paper on the future climate of the south west. As it gets hotter mountains wont retain as much water in snow packs through the winter, leading to less snow melt in the spring, the same snow melt that refills aquifers.
It gets hot, lakes dry up, we use aquifers, aquifers refill slow, we run out of water, we die or migrate
Trash future
Yep im from NM and we are DEEP into this cycle as it is. Oh and year forgetting massive forest fires due to lack of rainfall and snow pack
@@ji3194 505 here too, waiting on dust bowl pt 2
Yup, already starting in New England
Jonestly i've been banging the drum so much for how cataclysmically important to our continued survival that we develop and build major desalinization infrastructure.
Our whole civilization is so absolutely dependent on having an infinite supply of fresh water that just does not exist.
I didn’t know there was another alkaline dry lakebed in California other than the Salton Sea, which has done a great job of increasing the instance of respiratory illness in Imperial Valley
Don’t forget about it’s use in the hilarious flat earth tests
You guys should absolutely do an episode on the LA Aqueduct. The level of corruption that happened to steal the water of the Owens Valley is insane. It also involves the LAPD shooting people with army surplus machine guns.
Can't wait for the Well There's Your Problem spinoff podcast, Well There's Your Hockey hosted by Liam, Yay Liam, and the dozen Johns who lost their homes to the Alice Caldwell-Kelly Freeway.
What a reward for waking up early.
Ask A Mortician also did a great video on this. Since she lives in LA she has lots of location shots.
I was thinking of her too!
I feel like she did a much better job at explaining the human side of those impacted by the disaster, which I feel was sorely missing from this episode.
"a feminine trench, I'm trying to get one of those installed"
same, Alice, same. race you?
The safety 3rd calls to mind the US OPM (Office of Personnel Management) leak in 2015. You guys should do an episode on that sometime. Being a collateral clearance holder at the time I lost:
* My SSN
* My spouse's SSN
* My kid's SSN
* Every address I'd lived at for the last 10 years
* My mother's maiden name
* Fingerprints
* Work history
* Names, addresses, and phone numbers of close associates and neighbors
* Bank information
* Probably other stuff I'm forgetting about - It's been a while since I filled out an SF86
I was compensated with 5 years of free credit monitoring.
Oof ow same--same leak, same problems. Though apparently I still have the monitoring and they've never bothered to charge me for it.
A dam named after a saint? Must be another mysterious act of God's love.
the deputy zanjero sounds like some title a person would get in Dune like "Paul if we wish to secure favorable water lines we must consult the deputy zanjero Ja'ul Akardis"
+checks+ Darn, it derives from Basque, not Arabic.
1:01:07 i just watched a documentary on this on PBS the other day.
the 3 survivors were the wife and two children of one of the powerplant operators.
They awoke to hear the a low rumble and noticed a mysterious fog approaching in the valley and immediately knew the damn had broke.
The wife took two kids and ran for the hills, the powerplant operator went back for his two daughters and was never seen again.
The wife and two children were the only known survivors, and found the next day at the highest point nearby
Thanks for sharing.
If it's 50 lakh, that is 5,000,000, not 500,000, so a nice car/a year's salary if you have a well-paid job in USD, or about 13 years of the average salary for an Indian.
Cool episode, one fact I'd like to mention as a Californian, you mentioned Mono Lake and that's a bit of an oddity. The lake is incredibly alkaline so it has some really weird rock formations and the only life it can support is staggering numbers of brine shrimp and flies. Super important to the local ecosystem but it also seems vaguely satanic.
The funny thing about living in Vegas is that everyone things we get all our water from Lake Mead when the reality is we haven't increased out rights from the lake since it was made. Our water is majority reclaimed mixed with well water, which is why it tastes like crap. We knew the lake would be a problem in 2000. Finding bodies in it, also not surprising.
California and Arizona on the other hand, very fucked.
The discovery of bodies in barrels somehow made me think of this podcast too. (Though talking mob hits while located in Philly may be dangerous...)
@@craigdickson7697 I mean, talking about mob hits here in Vegas might not be safe either.
WRT CA water - San Diego got (relatively) serious after the last crisis, cut our consumption more than e.g. LA, and brought desalination on line. IIRC something north of 30% cut. But since the rest of the state said "what, me worry?" we are being asked to cut the same % as them again.
@@craigdickson7697 We're at 94% water reclamation because the Water Authority don't play. Seriously, what's grass?
@@LeeAnnaHolt "Toilet to tap" was fought for years, but I'm pretty sure it's on line now here in SD, though limited. Again, I'm pretty sure the rest of CA hasn't done so at all.
I love hearing Liam's censored descriptions of showing Bezos a good time
Then you would love Podcasting is Praxis. Due to the UK's rather stringent liable laws there are some beautiful censoring overdubs. Highly recommend their latest unlocked patreon ep featuring the good folks of WTYP if you want to "have a nice time"
Fun fact! Inyo County (the location of the Owens valley) is also home to the highest and lowest points of the contiguous US, Mt. Whitney (14,505 feet) and Death Valley's Badwater Basin (-282 feet).
Are they within view of each other?
4421 and -86 meters, respectively
Some years ago, the Army Corps of Engineers wanted to concrete out our local wash and runs into the Santa Ana River (nice bike trail along that river by the way, but it's only nice for riding at night most of the year because the day is too hot). Anyway, we had already known about the problem of the water not being able to seep into the water table so, in probably one of the few successful protests I've ever seen in my life, we forced them to leave most of it without concrete and control the flash floods in another way. They really did have to do some flood control because, just in my lifetime, the wash had gone from sometimes not even having any water in it to topping a pretty deep and wide channel. After a good rain, we used to all ride our bikes down to the wash to see how high it had gotten. One time, it was almost to the point of washing out the train tracks down there and my mom can remember a time when it washed out all the bridges except for one! I can remember a time when we went down there to look at the water was lapping at the bottom of that one bridge that had been left as it was because it hadn't washed out in the previous floods (of course they're replaced what was a beautiful old bridge with some ugly modern shit when they redid the wash). At least they put in a lovely exercise trail next to it, which I recently discovered, so I had to ride my bike down it so I could sit by the creek and get drunk: a favorite pastime of mine.
Oh yeah. You get the Mexican food and the beer and THEN you go sit by the bucolic "river".
Wooo, another ask a mortician accidental crossover. Really makes me want Caitlin to actually guest star one episode
I was actually hoping they'd cover the Eastland; it's right up their alley, especially with the reason why it's relatively unknown despite being one of the most deadly man made disasters in Chicago history
"This leak is not indicative of imminent structural failure." -Moholan
This leak was absolutely indicative of imminent structural failute
It's an easy mistake to make
[Liam holding out his hand to Alice] "Let's go wildly off-topic together"
What i'm learning here is that soil is a fickle and capricious beast, and is not to be trusted under any circumstance
I love how Alice just spoke a future Guild of TERF Archaeologists into existence at @1:05:00
the skeleton of a trans person couldn’t even be sexed as they were assigned if everyone had access hrt that wanted it.
so much trans scaremongering thinks it disproves trans people that oooohh bone different 😮
Hey there it is! You guys finally got to St Francis.
This is the episode about why geology isn't fake news.
I think we can all agree that the dam was cursed for its hubris when it rejected Monastic tradition and embraced Mendicant modernity.
Okay so, slightly disappointed in you guys here because there were some facts on this one you guys missed. In fact I'm a little disappointed I never send ya'll a message offering to appear as a guest on this episode because I happen to be familiar with this disaster. I'm not a geologist, but I do work with them, so I have second hand knowledge about why the dam collapsed and some of the problems leading up to its collapse.
Firstly, big one here, none of you mentioned Mulholland never got a degree in engineering. Could've been a good laugh there. Aside from that, nobody ever consulted a geologist when this thing was built, though they were hardly the first to not do that.
So, why did the dam collapse? Roz mentioned it briefly, an issue with the foundation. But more specifically, it had to do with the geologic makeup of the hillsides being used as the buttress for the dam. You see, there's a reason that the tombstone remained when the dam failed, because the tombstone was situated on solid bedrock. Dams need to be build on competent bedrock, close to the surface, in order to anchor the structure in place. Mulholland's mistake is that he thought the hills next to the dam were also bedrock with shallow soil surfaces. But they WEREN'T. The dam was actually built on what geologists call 'Saprolite' which is highly weathered bedrock that is in the process of becoming soil, meaning that the hillsides were basically largely dirt.
So, when the dam was filled, the water started eroding out the base of the sides of the dam by washing away the dirt it was build on top of. And as the pressure increased from the higher water level, the erosion increased. Eventually the sides of the hill gave way in a kind of mud slide that caused the dam to snap apart.
There was by the way a witness to the event. They didn't *see* the dam go out, but they did hear it from a few miles away on the highway.
Anyways if you guys are gunna do more episodes on CA history or with geology, I'd be more than happy to help you out. -From a californian
I was once stuck in traffic in Pasadena for three hours and we only moved maybe 10 feet in that entire time, plus I was stuck in the "fast lane" AND I had to pee. If you wonder why so many people drive, you should look at how shitty our public transportation is here, particularly look at the hours it runs. You can basically get further on your bicycle on the weekend because getting anywhere on the weekend using public transportation is going to take your the entire weekend and then you can't just make a tent city because you have to wait until tomorrow to take the bus back home because that is when you will encounter the local police, often because some shithead yuppies called the cops because they saw someone poor.
I know, it won't help right now, but if you want to know the origin story of the non-existent public transport in the US you can start by looking at the "General Motors streetcar conspiracy"...
The new "why don't we just build the entire plane using the black box?" should be "Why don't we just build the entire dam using the fingers of Dutch children?"
Glad to hear another pod! Hope everyone is recovering well from the break and can't wait for the new bonus!
A lot of people don't know this but B.C. stands for _before concrete ..._
A _solid_ abbreviation.
Alice, I’ve tried to play New Vegas many times but it never grabbed my ADHD brain by the right neurons to keep me in it. You giving me this angle to pay attention to while I play has activated some fucking mental override switch and now I have cancelled my plans for the day (nothing) and replaced them with booting the game up again. I couldn’t get into the wordbuilding because I didn’t have enough real life context to tie it to
I just need green in my games, it's too bleak for my adhd to give me the good shit.
@@danielled8665 that’s why I like/need to have some meta shit I’m thinking about alongside whatever media I’m looking at so if one starts to lose me I can daydream sort of on topic about the other. But I’ve lost the knack for it, it’s fiddly to pull off. And the visual element of ITS ALL BROWN definitely makes it harder to not zone out
There was a wonderful moment I had during an NCR run where I realized that, even if they take the dam, the sharecropper farms are still doomed unless you fuck over another group of people because there just is not enough water to do what the NCR wants to accomplish.
@@SivakAurak Alice was not kidding about this game capturing some Extremely California Shit, huh
As someone from Las Vegas, the NCR are extremely California. The Strip independence all the way.
Also, it is very brown out here. That is true.
1:13:00 is my new favorite Alice fucking up a drop because it just sounds like someone wandered into the call talking about crocodiles
Sadly, LA won't fall into the sea because ocean crust is basically always what goes under continental crust in subduction. Plus the San Andreas Fault is a transform (sliding past each other horizontally) fault anyway.
But yeah, Mulholland is kinda the California version of Robert Moses in a way.
Also great job Justin pronouncing Sierra Nevada like a local and describing the California water cycle perfectly.
I feel like when the Safety Third happens to people, they should receive lifetime identity protection paid for by the company that lost the data. Maybe that’ll kick these places into caring more about peoples’ information.
The company would go bankrupt. Then a new company would be formed with the same board of directors that would buy the assets from the old one at fire-sale prices and offer all the employees new jobs.
@@vylbird8014 I’m all for some amount of jail time for the people in charge as well. That should happen more often when these companies pollute or otherwise injure the communities they serve.
Railroads Online is progressing exactly as I forecast months ago: lead dev guy would get bored and embark on another giant code-writing project and not ship the actual game while for some reason a bunch of nerds produce a big pile of 3D assets that do not complement the gameplay loop
Listened to this as I drove by the dry Santa Cruz river next to the San Xavier mission on the Tahono O’odham Nation. Arizona will be boned when the water dries up. Seems like we are approaching a turning point faster than anyone expected. I hope the southwest can get their stuff together soon
Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner is a comprehensive and immensely important work on water management in the American mid west west, Pacific Northwest, and Southwest. I'm glad roz is reading it and I hope anyone that reads this comment reads it as well.
5-1, Liam. 5-1. This ass whipping is long deserved after all of those playoff losses. Keep it going, boys.
WAKE THE PUCK UP CANIACS! ITS GAMEDAY!
at least you are not the lightning.
Anyone who enjoys Boston sports shall be shot.
Anyone who enjoys the Patriots shall be shot again.
If I ever end up pursuing my game programming dreams, and if that game is going to be a 4X strategy game, and if I remember, I'm definitely going to add Soil Dynamics to the research tree as a thing you need in order for your dams to not occasionally break down and kill part of your population.
The Greater Lakes Empire will rise when they try building that water pipeline from Lake Michigan to California
It will be the battle of Lake Erie all over again! Only the British might not be there…
That new safety third jingle is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I know you touched on the Aral Sea briefly in the geoengineering episode but it would be a great episode by itself.
Video coming through the moment I looked for something to fall asleep to.
*Based and Sleeping Pilled.*
🎩👌
In LA you’re lucky to be stuck in traffic for just a long time. If you’re stuck for just a long time you’ve made good time.
You know, I cannot say I expected Alice to have a Bob Katter soundbyte but I am all for it. Thanks Alice and yay liam
I'm gonna guess that in the aftermath of this episode's Safety Third, they implemented ridiculously frequent password changes and insane requirements, which again - defeats the purpose.
Quite a topical episode considering they just voted no on a desalination plant that could help replenish depleted aquifers.
Safety third: The French company is Dassault, they also make Rafale fighter jets, made Mirage fighter jets, the CATIA design software and the Falcon private jets.
I would be annoyed by the fact that you clumped in the pacific northwest with the southwest but I'm too busy drinking all this water we have up here.
Lol, live hockey commentary on a game that happened Monday.
Sorry about your boys.
Roz really nailed me with the callback to Dune. Before IT happens, we call it The Singularity. After IT happens, we call it a Jihad.
According to TV Tropes, Liam's grift is that he tries to turn every podcast he's on into a sports podcast.
Personally, I support this. The way he disrupts the other hosts's flow helps maintain the audience's interest and creates opportunities for richer discussion.
“Dude, where’s my reservoir” lmao
I wasn't sure what I was getting with this episode, but when I heard Alice butcher spanish pronunciation, I knew I was in the right place.
Also, y'all should see about getting Ian of Forgotten Weapons or Othais of C&Rsenal on to talk about the chauchat light machine gun. You need 1E6 lmg's yesterday? Here you go. Do you need it to work for a while? Eh good luck.
To my knowledge, I thought the Chauchat was ok and that its defects were exaggerated? But I could be wrong.
I would love to see a C&Rsenal crossover.
@@HamSaladtv the .303 refit of the chauchat was a failure, but the standard version worked well enough for its intended purpose (walking fire), people seems to think it's supposed to be a light machine gun when it was never made for that.
@@HamSaladtv the original french version of the chauchat was fine but the ones rechambered in .30-06 for the us army were disastrous, and its reputation in the english-speaking world comes from that version
@@TidusleFlemard Thank you!
You know, it is funny to think of a gun as a failure when it doesn't kill enough people, or the right people!
Personally, I would love it if they had on the Civil War Digital Digest for American Civil War era engineering. There were so meany weird weapons used in that war.
In my mind "move slow and break things" implies a deliberate sabotage of everything you come across which is rad
Hoping you'll cover the Teton dam failure at some point. They're about to destroy the aquifers here in Idaho due to six years of drought, but there was a time where water in this area was actually high enough up that they tried to make it work for them..instead it just burst and killed 17 people or so...
What a great podcast, one of the co-hosts just openly watching a hockey game in the background, never change.
Thanks for the hard work. I think that it is one of your best episodes of the lasts months : a good rythm, very pleasant audio, and a perfect equilibrium between jokes, background and general information of the subject.
I read that the Amazon warehouse that collapsed was not anchored properly. So I suspect that they are probably getting off the hook by shifting blame on to the structural engineer, architect and contractors.
Roz, when you talked about how you didn't want to sit in front of the computer but still had to, I felt you brother. I am also waiting for the Butlerian Jihad.
An acre-foot is a helpful unit of measure, when you want to know how much land is going to be flooded once your badly build damn has failed.
Thank you Alice, for putting the image of an IT guy wearing thighsocks to an office.
10:28 50 lakh rupees is about 66,000 USD. Also the government that's imposing the fine is the Federal government, that's of course based in New Delhi, the Delhi municipal corporation that runs the landfill is under the local Delhi govt which is entirely separate & has a different political party in power, which kinda Incentivises the fine tbh.
50 lakh rupees is 5 million rupees. Divide by 70, you get a fine of about 70k usd.
You can get a nice 3 bedroom flat for that amount in a B tier metro in India.
A note on pronunciation: In Spanish, z is pronounced like an s.
I can't wait for them to talk about the supreme court's gamer moment
Personially I would build a dam that doesn’t fail
Hey man, LA cares about its hockey team alright. According to the flow chart: If the Lakers/Dodgers (or Dodgers/Lakers depending on how violent you get on Tequila) fail, you then default to the Kings and so on down the line. I'm not sure where the NFL teams fall into this, the flow chart hasn't been updated since 2009.
EDIT: props to Liam for low-key understanding the hierarchy of LA sports. Good on ya my guy.
Glad to know that Liam is also a member of the annoying the shit out of good friends fanclub. What better way is there to show your affection?
Self taught engineer in 2022 is has 500+ hours on Factorio.
RE Shake hands with danger: I find a computer indispensable
Also, for routeing/services due to insider trading.. check out Birmingham-Wolverhampton Canal New Line vs Old Line.
The Old Line "follows the topography of the land" which "coincidentally" takes it near to the collieries and industries that provided most funding to the scheme.
The New Line is "OH GOD THERE'S COMPETITION NOW" and basically goes straight. Leading to the interesting bit where there's a stack of bridges carrying:
Railway over Old Line
New Line over Railway
M6 Motorway over All of the Above.
Imagine making a podcast for thousands of people but being unable not to watch hockey during it
To be fair, if this podcast were more professional it would lose most of its charm
Los Angeles: The city that indie bands write the most depressing songs about. And that seems to have started early.
As a southern California resident, I'm saving my money to get tf outta here, eastern Sierra Nevada it is, put a well on the property, solar, I'm set for life
Acre-feet makes perfect sense. A farmer planting a crop that needs 60 inches of rain per year can look at the average rainfall in his area and figure out his deficit. Suppose his area only gets 36 inches on average, he needs to irrigate to cover the other 24 inches, or 2 feet. Now just multiply that by how many acres he's farming and he's got his needs in acre-feet. I don't know why this is challenging for you.
To be fair, someone getting torn apart by crocodiles at work would make an excellent 'Safety Third'
In the meanwhile…there’s a road called Mulholland. It twists and turns through the Santa Monica hills ending at the Pacific Ocean. How ironic.
I'd guess that EPA-reportable oil spills are a daily occurrence at about 50% of U.S. Army Corps of Engineers facilities.
The "good" that came from this disaster was it stopped the city of Los Angeles from expanding uncontrollably, but the side effect is now we have over 30 different transit agencies in one county, and like 300 different water districts across the metropolitan area.
"I'm just here for the 'yes'" made me laugh pretty hard. Roz using 'yes' as the only thing oration capable of keeping the show on track is one of the most consistently hilarious things on the show.
The idea of a late Victorian built nuclear power plant is hilarious in a terrifying way: the safety measures probably would be right out of a Simpson's episode.
@49:30 - i'm sure someone has already covered this, but 'acre-foot' is a measure which is useful for farming. Crop water requirements over a season are expressed in how much rainfall a crop needs to thrive, which naturally works out to acre-feet when you go through "well, i've got 12 acres of crops which each require 1 inch of rainfall per week", which is one acre-foot. (or whatever, hopefully that makes sense an example)
I like my water measurements in tonnes or tons, because that maps nicely to volume but reminds you how little chance your puny flesh has of standing up to the anger of the Deep Ones as they rise from their eldritch slumber.
Zen and the art of GG1 maintenance
This was a _dam_ fine episode, well done!
You're on the dam when it gives away
But you're on that one part that doesn't collapse
But now you have to get down
ah yes, a slide but in the 1 grit variety
oh it's been a while since we measured something in xobxen
Unless I’m ill informed it’s pronounced Tong vuh. It’s called the Gabrielino-Tongva tribe now though. San Gabrielino was the mission that was built when the Spanish came. We’re still not federally recognized either which is cool. Their is a movement but I don’t know anything about it. I still need to get registered in the tribe. Gotta have the tribe do blood quantum’s so the government can tell me how Indian I am.
If people don’t know what that is, they should look into it. I went to a tribal building in Canada I think (I was 10) and they had preserved vials of blood or at least had replicas on the walls. Dunno if that’s a common thing or not, but it was disturbing to me how much control the government has when it comes to determining what my ethnicity is.
I used to live in the headwaters of the Owens river in mammoth lakes. Mono lake has started to rise very slightly in the past years but it’s nowhere near where it once was
Pronounced “moh-no” btw
50,000 lahk rupees? 1 lahk is 100K so 50K of those is 5 billion rupees, so the fine was actually 65.5 million usd.
Yeeeeesss! Another Mysterious Act of God's Love episode! My mother and I have begun calling dam failures that now. Thanks guys!
Liam being an hockey-loving anarchist who roots for the Bruins makes him my parasocial nemesis.
When I am king, anyone who is Deputy Zanjero has to wear the brightest epaulets and the tallest, fuzziest hat in all the land!