Well There's Your Problem | Episode 23: Vajont Dam

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  • @MrChristheWise
    @MrChristheWise 4 роки тому +703

    Raz, you should remember from engineering school. Its soil, not dirt. The dirt engineers get testy about that when you mis-identify what their life's work has been about.

    • @jacksonarnold27
      @jacksonarnold27 2 роки тому +41

      i literally think about this comment weekly

    • @mysteryshrimp
      @mysteryshrimp Рік тому +30

      The geology degree on my wall is currently grumbling something about alluvium.

    • @robertbalazslorincz8218
      @robertbalazslorincz8218 9 місяців тому

      He probably uses 'dirt' instead of 'soil' because... not everyone has an engineering degree?

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@robertbalazslorincz8218 I don't think that was the point of their comment.

    • @Ezekiel_Allium
      @Ezekiel_Allium 24 дні тому

      @@robertbalazslorincz8218 I don't think there's anything more beautiful than a youtube comment that not only missed the joke, but the joke is so far over their head it's in the pleiades, and then they get snarky about it. God bless.

  • @Theoddert
    @Theoddert 4 роки тому +668

    Love that classic part of engineering disaster where some graph of something goes exponential

    • @The5lacker
      @The5lacker 3 роки тому +29

      Orders of magnitude are a hell of a drug

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 3 роки тому +17

      Line must go up

    • @nigor42
      @nigor42 3 роки тому +6

      And THAT's where things went horribly wrong

    • @jizburg
      @jizburg 2 роки тому +5

      We love an exponential graph

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 2 роки тому +4

      @@iphonewalkthroughs Well THERE is your problem.

  • @wcs792
    @wcs792 4 роки тому +582

    anyone: tells a joke
    justin: yes

  • @rebeccajohnston-carter315
    @rebeccajohnston-carter315 2 роки тому +141

    My brain is now picturing Alice in an office inside a dam...
    Alice: This wall...
    Alice: - slaps wall-
    Alice: ...hold's an atomic bomb's worth of water."
    Opposite Side of wall: - Fish is startled by the thump-
    Alice: -walks to other wall-
    Alice: This wall...
    Alice: - slaps wall-
    Alice: ...hold's noting! Or like maybe a mountain goat inexplicably climbing up the dam."
    Opposite Side of wall: - A mountain goat is startled by the thump and goes TUMBLING down the dam wall-

  • @ashleyelgin9808
    @ashleyelgin9808 4 роки тому +207

    "A weir is a machine for drowning people" Yep. Almost any weir will have a shit ton of forces pulling you underwater immediately downstream.

    • @sideways5153
      @sideways5153 8 місяців тому +2

      Really gives that “it do go down” video a bit more dramatic edge

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams 3 місяці тому +1

      Aerated water, too. You have both the turbulence pulling you down and the less dense water making it almost impossible to float

  • @danieleflorean7064
    @danieleflorean7064 4 роки тому +374

    I'm late in the comment train but some things need to be made added. My family is from the region, and my father is a geologist. This is a huge historical event in Italy and there's a lot of literature about it, so I have some more insight on it than our podcast hosts, although I don't have their engineering expertise. Apart from some lack of detail, nice work, especially with difficult access to the sources!
    1) The "j" in Vajont is pronounced as "i" and the accent is on the "o", so more like "vaiònt", not "va-johnt"
    2) originally the dam was supposed to be lower than the final height, the project was amended two times to increase the reservoir volume, if I remember correctly against the will of the original engineer.
    3) The mountain where the landslide originated is called "Toc", which in the local dialect means "Piece" and is a huge on-the-nose giveaway about the quality of the rock. As if in the US they had built a dam below Mount Crumbly McLandslideface. But hey, why ask those ignorant mountain peasants why the villages are all on the other side of the valley.
    4) A huge amount of corruption and prevarication was involved in the espropriation of the agricultural land along the valley. This was covered only by a communist journalist for the "Unità" PCI newspaper, Tina Merlin. There's a book by her in italian detailing the societal history of the disaster, you can send me a message if interested.
    5) The dam company knew or at least was aware of the M-shaped landslide just waiting to happen, that was mapped before the construction started. This was hush-hushed and not thought to be a problem in the original project but the increased height of the dam altered the water-rock dynamic, with the well-known consequences.
    6) The reservoir was not supposed or designed to be that full. However, emptying the reservoir actually increased the accelleration of the slide, the water giving some support to it.
    7) There was no way to avoid this, with such big a dam in that place... the error was building it in the first place.
    8) On top of all of this, lots of the survivors especially from the small villages were relocated in a new town purposely buildt, displacing them and severing all their social connections.
    P.s.: Montanelli was not only a renown DC-friendly journalist but also a former fascist piece of shit, that had a child bride during the african war. Craxi was actually from the Socialist party (PSI).

    • @antonioscendrategattico2302
      @antonioscendrategattico2302 4 роки тому +52

      So glad to see someone repping Tina Merlin and the true story behind the Vajont disaster. Everyone knew, and she was the only one who openly stated it.

    • @annafdd
      @annafdd 3 роки тому +10

      All of this, man.

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 3 роки тому +10

      Good man.

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat 3 роки тому +24

      Nice to hear more details from a local. I accidentally clicked on your channel icon to reply and I'm glad to see you watch Technology Connections as well.

    • @johanneswerner1140
      @johanneswerner1140 11 місяців тому +4

      There was also a smear campaign against the dirt guy and the geologist who warned against that.

  • @ketrakrelek2347
    @ketrakrelek2347 3 роки тому +122

    as a female dirt guy getting a phd in building walls out of dirt i appreciated this episode

    • @sakurakiyori
      @sakurakiyori 10 місяців тому +9

      Here's hoping your degree went well, and you're now happily a Dirt Doctor!

    • @sideways5153
      @sideways5153 8 місяців тому

      You eat enough dirt to be Dr Krelek yet?

  • @Orforio
    @Orforio 4 роки тому +512

    I'm half-Italian and I have never felt so insulted and demeaned by the constant corruption jokes and terrible pronunciation.
    Great job, keep up the good work!

    • @Huntracony
      @Huntracony 4 роки тому +39

      Tell me about it. I'm Dutch. I love it.

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 2 роки тому +4

      It's not their fault that corruption was invented by Giancarlo Corrupzione

  • @chaosof99
    @chaosof99 4 роки тому +194

    Mussolini is easy to find. He likes to hang out at the gas station.

    • @bynrdskynrd
      @bynrdskynrd 4 роки тому +11

      IIRC, he was into those gravity slings...

    • @christianesposto3932
      @christianesposto3932 4 роки тому +1

      You're ignorant

    • @Frommerman
      @Frommerman 3 роки тому +17

      @@christianesposto3932 But not of optimal methods of fascist disposal.

    • @cioccioyoyo
      @cioccioyoyo 3 роки тому +2

      GOLD! LMAO

  • @klappmayer
    @klappmayer 4 роки тому +126

    Hey Hey, long time viewer, first time commenter here:
    Please please please do an episode about the cologne city archive collapse; this one has it all: trains, tunnels, stupidity, corruption, relatively low casualtie numbers and the total collapse of the historical archive of one of europe´s oldest cities. it´s golden.

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 2 роки тому +19

      It's now 2022 and they still haven't done this disaster, despite numerous people asking them to!

    • @teslashark
      @teslashark 13 днів тому

      @@ClaudiaNW No Sewol either!

  • @scullystie4389
    @scullystie4389 4 роки тому +155

    My favorite ejection seats were the ones on the early F-104 Starfighters, which ejected *downwards* because the technology at the time couldn't clear the tail at supersonic speeds.

    • @penta5698
      @penta5698 4 роки тому +69

      For me that award goes to that russian helicopter with ejector seats. To avoid the pilots turning into the first ever three casket funeral, the double contraturning rotarblades would be ejected as well.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +17

      The F-111, which had an ejectable crew capsule. Pull the handle and the cockpit falls off and transforms into a Cirrus SR-22

    • @Sp4mMe
      @Sp4mMe 4 роки тому +16

      @@penta5698 Should have timed the mechanism so the rotor blades slowed just enough for the seat to fly right through. Unfortunate for pilots with too long legs or necks, but awesome in principle.

    • @scullystie4389
      @scullystie4389 4 роки тому +32

      These are all fine but the F104 is simply the most metal because the principle of ejection seats is to put more distance between you and your nemesis, the dirt, but it actually does the opposite. Even better when you consider what happened to most Starfighters... As soon as they were outdated as interceptors they were pressed into duty as low level fighter bombers.

    • @brownmims2311
      @brownmims2311 4 роки тому +9

      I mean, the idea is to get you to the ground anyway right?

  • @forestine_
    @forestine_ 4 роки тому +98

    "I'm the person who's talking right now" is my favourite addition.

    • @ashleyfurrow4414
      @ashleyfurrow4414 3 роки тому +3

      You’re going to love the next 50+ episodes!

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance 2 роки тому +3

      Nothing beats the addition of "Yay, Liam."

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 4 роки тому +77

    Don't knock chewing on dirt. It's a weirdly precise method of determining the grain size of dirt.

  • @theryanbard
    @theryanbard 4 роки тому +180

    Someday this podcast will have covered all the engineering disasters I've read about on wikipedia at 3 AM (in the morning)

    • @scarylion1roar
      @scarylion1roar 4 роки тому +30

      03:00 AM in the morning :)

    • @Lmndrsn
      @Lmndrsn 4 роки тому +23

      You people.

    • @theryanbard
      @theryanbard 4 роки тому +8

      @@Lmndrsn its for emphasis!

    • @scarylion1roar
      @scarylion1roar 4 роки тому +7

      @@Lmndrsn It's a quarter after oh-one-hundred AM in the morning, I'm a little drunk, ect.
      --Lady Antebellum, probably

    • @kenkoopa7903
      @kenkoopa7903 3 роки тому +4

      The last disaster they cover before the universe closes out will be the Tacoma Narrows Bridge Disaster.

  • @katestewart9432
    @katestewart9432 4 роки тому +73

    Hypothesis: engineers who are Dirt Guys are at the same end of the spectrum as Plane Guys, i.e., they care a great deal how much you know about the stuff you're talking about. When I asked my retired civil engineer neighbor about the dirt where we live, he said, "There's no such thing as 'dirt.' It's called 'soil.'" Also he cannot be around you if you're the kind of person who says "cement" when you're actually talking about concrete.

    • @seventeenpoint5
      @seventeenpoint5 Рік тому +5

      My dad is an engineer who basically corrected me every time I said cement when I meant concrete. Then I started correcting everyone else. It got so bad that one day dad said cement and I instinctively said concrete, but then said no wait you probably do mean cement 😂

  • @marxmeesterlijk
    @marxmeesterlijk 4 роки тому +121

    I got ejected out of a jet fighter, and all I got was this lousy necktie.

  • @morganalabeille5004
    @morganalabeille5004 4 роки тому +146

    I really hope you guys do some sort of ancient history episode. Like the Fidenae stadium disaster on 27 ad, which killed approximately 20 000 people. Or the collapse of a seating section of the Circus Maximus that happened during the reign of Diocletian killed about 13000 people and to this day is still the largest sporting disaster in history.

    • @viniciusdesouzamaia
      @viniciusdesouzamaia 4 роки тому +32

      Not if you include Germany 7x1 Brazil in the World Cup.

    • @TGGWarehouse
      @TGGWarehouse 3 роки тому +6

      @@viniciusdesouzamaia Spain just avenged Brazil tho

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 Місяць тому

      Ancient Roman sources tend to play a bit fast and loose with numbers, unless it's about money.

  • @Thecoffeefreak
    @Thecoffeefreak 4 роки тому +71

    Studying for my electrical B.Eng I used to wonder why all the Civil engineering students swore continuously and loudly while discussing soil mechanics.

  • @ClaudiaNW
    @ClaudiaNW 4 роки тому +194

    Alice has such an encyclopaedic knowledge of worldwide leftist history.

    • @ashleyfurrow4414
      @ashleyfurrow4414 3 роки тому +8

      Honestly impressed!

    • @Doribi117
      @Doribi117 3 роки тому +17

      I would gladly sit down and listen to her talk about leftist history for hours at a time, Alice History Podcast when?

    • @Doribi117
      @Doribi117 3 роки тому

      @j man today I learn something new, thank you kind stranger

  • @memelord1337
    @memelord1337 4 роки тому +93

    Yes my favorite disaster
    Also 48:46 A piezometer (in this context) is just a well used to measure groundwater levels
    Some fancy ones have special computers or whatever but typically you just drop a fancy measuring tape into the well to see where the water is

    • @acassiopeia6439
      @acassiopeia6439 4 роки тому +21

      So its an aspirational dipstick? Neat

    • @pmcgee003
      @pmcgee003 4 роки тому +7

      @@acassiopeia6439 We could all think of some aspirational dipsticks.

  • @slywolf1972
    @slywolf1972 4 роки тому +65

    If your dam becomes a weir or your weir becomes a dam, you should probably evacuate

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome 4 роки тому +7

      Well, if your weir becomes a dam, you're gonna have a lot of problems, but they're mainly just gonna be headaches and environmental consequences. You probably won't have any issues that would require evacuation.
      However, something had to have caused the water level to drop so drastically and suddenly, and *that* might be causing issues that *do* require evacuation.

    • @tramplamps
      @tramplamps 3 роки тому +4

      Frankly- Either way, you’re going to evacuate, regardless if it is posthumous on your end, or of your own volition.

  • @goldmanfan504
    @goldmanfan504 4 роки тому +97

    I'm so pumped about this new episode - thank you so much for all of y'all's hard work in making this. This has become my go to podcast and I have learned so much from listening to it. When I'm feeling really depressed - listen to 'well there's your problem'. Working on a project - listen to 'well there's your problem'. Walking the dog - listen to 'well there's your problem'. My dad recommended this to me a while ago and I'm so glad he did. I tend to listen on the podcast app and not on UA-cam, but I love the fact that you guys do slides and have a blast making this. This podcast gives me a lot of enjoyment, and helps me learn a lot (not just about engineering). I barely graduated HS and have decided not to go to college because ADHD is a bitch, but if all lectures were like this podcast I would be getting all A's.
    This podcast is extremely engaging and makes a positive impact in my daily life. All of y'all at Well There's Your Problem have made such a big impact in my life despite never meeting, and I want you to know that Alice is my Trans Icon - I wish I could be as cool as her when I'm older. She gives me hope that despite being trans I can still go out and be cool. I doubt that I'll ever meet any of y'all in person but your podcast has literally saved my life at times and I want to thank you. Stay safe in this pandemic!

  • @1121494
    @1121494 4 роки тому +75

    Looking forward to the next episode on the Tacoma Narrows Bridge - at last!

  • @booti_boi6927
    @booti_boi6927 4 роки тому +74

    I mean, it's not one incident, but some cars ARE engineering disasters, so you could do a top gear special and shit on cars

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +11

      become a patreon backer or a pirating scab and enjoy Bonus Episode #2, The Story Of Liam's Van

    • @ehsn
      @ehsn 4 роки тому +6

      @ThisIsMyRealName Shhh, naming it too loudly could make it catch fire.

    • @BlarryOfficial
      @BlarryOfficial 4 роки тому +10

      "Tonight: Liam sleeps in a van, Alice ruins Australia, and I design a rail network for the East Coast that isn't total garbage."

    • @shadowmaster1313
      @shadowmaster1313 4 роки тому

      @ThisIsMyRealName The You're Wrong About Podcast actually did an episode about the pinto, spoiler: it's not as dangerous as you think

    • @shadowmaster1313
      @shadowmaster1313 4 роки тому +1

      @@EmeraldLavigne actually that was requested by the us government and pricing of human life was suggested by the government over car rollovers, not the pinto catching fire

  • @horstheinrich9746
    @horstheinrich9746 4 роки тому +67

    I now really want an episode on the oppau explosion where they decided it would be a good idea to use controlled explosions, to loosen nitrate-based fertilizer.

    • @darthbob88
      @darthbob88 4 роки тому +16

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppau_explosion "Compared to ammonium sulfate, ammonium nitrate is strongly hygroscopic, so the mixture of ammonium sulfate and nitrate clogged together under the pressure of its own weight, turning it into a plaster-like substance in the 20 m high silo. The workers needed to use pickaxes to get it out, a problematic situation because they could not enter the silo and risk being buried in collapsing fertilizer. To ease their work, small charges of dynamite were used to loosen the mixture." Would you look at the time, I really must be going.

    • @d.b.cooper6643
      @d.b.cooper6643 2 роки тому

      I'd like to see an episode about the Pushkin plane crash (TU-104)

    • @geoffreyentwistle8176
      @geoffreyentwistle8176 3 місяці тому

      The funny thing to me isn't that the explosion happened; it's how long it took to happen.
      Apparently the dynamite was a regular thing because the mixed salts were found to be insensitive to detonation.

  • @joachimmacdonald2702
    @joachimmacdonald2702 4 роки тому +195

    Next episode: the Italian Republic

    • @General_chuckles
      @General_chuckles 4 роки тому +28

      I thought they were doing Tacoma Narrows next? Maybe they can do Italian republic after that.

    • @samitefan1
      @samitefan1 4 роки тому +1

      Pooh, deep cut there

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 4 роки тому +4

      Just Italy even, it wasn’t any more functional when it was a monarchy

    • @Altairw
      @Altairw 3 роки тому +2

      I'm italian and I approve.

    • @annafdd
      @annafdd 3 роки тому +1

      I’m Italian and I approve.

  • @curiousteddie
    @curiousteddie 4 роки тому +51

    i think this deserves the award for "scariest fucking episode of anything, ever"
    i learned that i have a deep horrible fear of dams and large masses of land and water, apparently. i've never been this viscerally uncomfortable and scared while watching something. i keep pausing to breathe and go "no, no, no". whenever you explain the scale i have to either black out briefely or contend with my brain fucking EATING ITSELF as i try to process it. I am now scared of dirt, which is probably good.
    yall have talked about so much human suffering and awful events and made them so much fun, and THIS is the first time i'm TERRIFIED. i'm an anxious person, but love the pod because i don't ever really feel /scared/ when hearing about anxiety-inducing disasters, but this?? this is a new flavour of hell i never considered. I thank the gods for every second you spend bantering because it's a second that I can stop thinking about a 200m wave.
    thanks for uncovering a phobia for me! if anyone has a latin name for it lmk lmao
    This is a 5 star review, love the podcast, if i ever step foot on a dam i will cry now
    they/them

  • @ExperimentIV
    @ExperimentIV 4 роки тому +46

    i had a horrible night last night and i really dont want to live right now, but at least this podcast exists. serendipitous timing

    • @sparkpenguin
      @sparkpenguin 4 роки тому +15

      i hope you're feeling better punkin

    • @Superbouncybubble
      @Superbouncybubble 4 роки тому +18

      I get that mood, the atmosphere of this podcast is extremely chill and friendly and it's been very nice during these spooky times. Stay safe pal

    • @ExperimentIV
      @ExperimentIV 4 роки тому +12

      wow somehow i never got the notifications about these comments! i’ve been mostly feeling better lately. it’s just hard dealing with mental illness sometimes on top of everything else in the world going on right now. came back to listen to this episode because i never quite finished it because of how i was feeling, and i was feeling okay already but now i’m smiling to myself. thanks, you two.

    • @Frommerman
      @Frommerman 3 роки тому +4

      Hope ur still living fam.

    • @ExperimentIV
      @ExperimentIV 3 роки тому +8

      @@Frommerman still hangin on

  • @mandoguy2014
    @mandoguy2014 4 роки тому +33

    as a Xavier grad, I was happy to hear villanova was destroyed until I realized it was full of people so now I'm only conflicted over it

  • @TrashHeapCustodian
    @TrashHeapCustodian 4 роки тому +44

    I miss the "shake hands with danger" music sting but I guess this news one can hold me over

  • @Erlec
    @Erlec 4 роки тому +63

    Can't wait for the Tacoma Narrows Bridge episode - So much stuff to discuss!

    • @scarylion1roar
      @scarylion1roar 4 роки тому +8

      "F"s in the chat for Tubby, the only casualty of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse

    • @viniciusdesouzamaia
      @viniciusdesouzamaia 4 роки тому +3

      Man, I just wanna understand how this started.

  • @insatsuki_no_koshou
    @insatsuki_no_koshou 4 роки тому +25

    I love that you're using the same news jingle as the German satire newspaper "Postillon".

  • @frozenchikin6321
    @frozenchikin6321 4 роки тому +62

    Podcasting is an essential service

  • @TemplarOnHigh
    @TemplarOnHigh 4 роки тому +19

    10:40 - Fun fact, during the '90's when the Russians were broke - you could book a flight in a fighter jet. There was a briefing to explain what the ejection system did and even a little test seat to show you how it worked. Frenchy is lucky to be OK - an unintended ejection.

    • @Alex-ok9iu
      @Alex-ok9iu 4 роки тому +2

      you can still do that btw
      migflug.com/

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +2

      It's astonishing. The glider clubs I've flown with show more diligence in showing visitors how to safely sit in the aircraft.

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams 6 місяців тому

      I know there was a planned passenger version of the MiG-25. It looked like someone stretched out the cockpit and stuck a duck’s head on it.
      Mikoyan & Gurevich never built it, but it basically gutted the military equipment from the middle and stuck in passenger seating.

  • @Taverius
    @Taverius 4 роки тому +68

    It is Vajont with a j like a nearly silent i, not a j like join. It's a part of Italy where slavic names are pretty common - Vladi, Yuri, Katja, and a mountain accent, so if you say it like it's Russian you're not that far off. Or you could say it like a French Canadian would, that also works :P
    Btw I drive through the valley every time I go skiing - you can see the dam in the distance at the end of the canyon and it's still terrifying, especially late in the evening - it's a part of the lower Italian alps with very steep valleys like Zermatt up in Switzerland and its already claustrophobic without knowing what happened.
    Oh and I'm like 30m from the bridge that fell, and 30m from the one in Genova. My cousin's husband uses to drive on the more recent one to work every morning.
    Fun times in Northern Italy! 🤣
    You can't offend us though, your disdain for the way things are done here will never match ours!
    Oh and we were part-owners of that electricity company. Yeah. What your family did in the fascist period is not something people talk about even now.

    • @Taverius
      @Taverius 4 роки тому +14

      Oh yes, Craxi, La Gazza Ladra di Hammamet - The Magpie of Hammamet - because when he finally stole so much that even his allies turned on him he ran to hang out in Tunisia with his friend you can guess who.
      And my dad asks me why I refuse to vote! I always thought it was obvious.

    • @Taverius
      @Taverius 4 роки тому +12

      And fucking Montanelli. They tried to have a national remembrance when he died but the rest of were throwing parties. Fuck that asshole.

    • @Taverius
      @Taverius 4 роки тому +1

      @@EmeraldLavigne that would be the french part, yes.

    • @mariethe_patate3696
      @mariethe_patate3696 4 роки тому

      @@EmeraldLavigne Like the ones who invented poutine, and produce most of the maple syrup of the world?
      Since you are stealing our shit and try to make it your own, I think we are allowed to whine a little... ;-)
      (And poutine is made with cheese curds, not SHREADED cheese... 🤢)

    • @sheldef4328
      @sheldef4328 3 роки тому +5

      The "j" pronounced as a "y" not because of Slavic languages nearby but because Vajont is a Friulian name, which is a Romance language native to Friuli. Sometimes It can be written Vaiont or Vajont, but it's pronounced the same ( is a variation of to reflect used as a palatal glide). My family is from Friuli and they speak Friulian (I only know a bit).

  • @diidelphiis
    @diidelphiis 4 роки тому +22

    Navigation dams also have the nasty side effect of magnifying the change in water level of places upstream, so that the watercourse downstream stays at the proper height. My grandparents’ hometown got flooded on two separate occasions in order to keep the Trent-Severn Waterway in business.

  • @magmasajerk
    @magmasajerk 4 роки тому +26

    Okay, but the CIA actually did fund a bunch of random artists in the 50s and 60s without those artists knowing (to own the Soviets). It's totally possible they could be slipping podcasts a few bucks on Patreon.

    • @ivanoffw
      @ivanoffw 4 роки тому +1

      You are talking about Glora Steinem?

    • @magmasajerk
      @magmasajerk 4 роки тому +6

      @@ivanoffw www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
      tldr: The CIA secretly funded many artists because the perceived dynamism of American art and culture could be a Big Deal in the Cold War. They had to do it secretly because the general public disapproved of a lot of the art and the artists often disapproved of the CIA.

    • @TF_Tony
      @TF_Tony 4 роки тому +5

      @@magmasajerk Apparently that article (which is 25 years old) is the only one to ever publish this viewpoint. This one from 4 years ago puts it a little bit into perspective: www.bbc.com/culture/story/20161004-was-modern-art-a-weapon-of-the-cia
      Then again, the CIA's main goal is the extraction of information, not that of enforcing soft power, which is what the State Department would do, and if we are to dive into conspiracy theories, the State Department is led by Pompeo, who answers to Trump, which means if they secretly sponsor any kind of podcast, it is more likely those that support the current administration.

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 3 роки тому +3

      CIA pay me please. I’ll say anything but I want whatever you gave that Pakistani Intelligence official who dimed out Bin Laden’s retirement stabbin’ cabin.

  • @OriginalPineapplesFoster
    @OriginalPineapplesFoster Рік тому +9

    I'm not a fan of podcasts where people just sit and chat with no stated purpose. Or cars. Or podcasts where people talk about cars.
    What I AM a fan of: listening to people, who have established a rapport, get genuinely excited together about something.
    Thus, I found the tangent about police cars thoroughly enjoyable and felt sad (but amused) when Roz finally bright focus back to the charts.
    Thanks for being awesome, y'all. 👍✌️🍍

  • @jbarbeau92
    @jbarbeau92 4 роки тому +4

    According to google translate, ‘fuck around and find out’ is ‘scopare e scoprirlo’ which actually sounds really good

  • @Jablicek
    @Jablicek 4 роки тому +25

    In episode 23, the team spend an hour and a half giggling through digressions while trying to get to the point. It's both entertaining and amusing. :)

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 2 роки тому

      You could call it "entermusing" (channelling Nathen Mazri)

  • @spencerbuck1074
    @spencerbuck1074 2 роки тому +7

    50:42 I love how each time Roz tries to steer back to the topic and it always takes a couple tries

  • @ThePinkus
    @ThePinkus 4 роки тому +6

    6:40 "So this is a bridge in Italy. It collapsed"
    should have added, with the same calm tone: "... no, it's not last week's bridge, it's another one"

  • @fslknsadglkdahawerykljwa3aw643
    @fslknsadglkdahawerykljwa3aw643 4 роки тому +35

    I'm only 19 seconds in but I wanted to stop and complain about this not being solemn enough

    • @fslknsadglkdahawerykljwa3aw643
      @fslknsadglkdahawerykljwa3aw643 4 роки тому +28

      I refuse to switch to a podcast that will discuss this catastrophe with a more serious tone, instead I demand that you change how you do it.

    • @redbasher636
      @redbasher636 4 роки тому +1

      I cannot tell if sarcastic or not.

    • @scarylion1roar
      @scarylion1roar 4 роки тому +7

      Sorry, B ee. The reality of the comments section has surpassed the ridiculousness of your satire.

    • @fslknsadglkdahawerykljwa3aw643
      @fslknsadglkdahawerykljwa3aw643 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@scarylion1roar Amazing.

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 3 роки тому +1

      The true catastrophe is how blatant you have to make your sarcasm for most people to realize it’s sarcasm.

  • @scarylion1roar
    @scarylion1roar 4 роки тому +104

    Vajont Dam is my nickname for my menstrual cup lol
    (they/them)

    • @scrungly
      @scrungly 4 роки тому +10

      lmao good one
      (he/him)

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit 4 роки тому +3

      @@icedlenin8908 l would have gone with fucker/fuckress but l guess that's actually pretty sexist.

    • @scarylion1roar
      @scarylion1roar 4 роки тому +2

      @Joe Average *Fount :)

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +4

      Jean Vajont

    • @scarylion1roar
      @scarylion1roar 4 роки тому +6

      @@RoamingAdhocrat And I'm Javajont. Dont forget my name. Dont forget me, 246-oh-1

  • @riinak7212
    @riinak7212 3 роки тому +6

    Mount Toc, the side of the dam that provided the material for the landslide, was widely known in the area by its nickname, "The Walking Mountain", due to its frequent slides and unsteady soil. Also, this reminds me of both the Baldwin Hills Dam and the St. Francis Dam collapses in southern California.

  • @LaTigerGenesis
    @LaTigerGenesis 4 роки тому +17

    per alice's position that there no good leaks, i argue fresh maple syrup

    • @shadowmaster1313
      @shadowmaster1313 4 роки тому +10

      If you want it to happen it's by definition not a leak anymore

    • @LaTigerGenesis
      @LaTigerGenesis 4 роки тому +4

      @@shadowmaster1313 I respect that

  • @zuthalsoraniz6764
    @zuthalsoraniz6764 4 роки тому +9

    Windows in a dam would be fun, though. Window on this side: Normal triple-glazed window, can open it to get in some fresh air or jump to your death. Window on that side: A solid foot of reinforced glass that is irremovably cast into the concrete of the dam

  • @tisFrancesfault
    @tisFrancesfault 4 роки тому +12

    I've seen entire hardwood trees trapped in Weir vortexes, bobbing about like it was nothing. Though the river has very little warning.
    ...drunk students drown in it every year.

  • @jonathanlanglois2742
    @jonathanlanglois2742 4 роки тому +7

    The hoover dam is actualy a mix between an arch dam and a gravity dam. It's a lot stronger then it needs to be.They didn't have computer simulations back then and were still learning how to make such large structures and which explains why it's so massive. The Daniel-Johnson dam holding back the Manicouagan Reservoir is a true arch dam, although in that particular instance, it's not a single arch, but rather, a series of arches resting on buttresses.

  • @AB-on1on
    @AB-on1on 4 роки тому +6

    I appreciate your effort to fight my quarantine boredom with constantly producing new episodes.

  • @r2dezki
    @r2dezki 4 роки тому +6

    I think my brain cracked when I heard the story about a guy losing his pants after accidentally pulling the ejector seat lever.

  • @AuroraAtAngelsTen
    @AuroraAtAngelsTen 4 роки тому +10

    I can't wait for the next session of Remedial Engineering Class.

  • @zimmerwald1915
    @zimmerwald1915 4 роки тому +10

    I remember when Franklin was the vector for talking about the politics surrounding water control structures.
    I am old.

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +16

    Instead of dropping sand and boron on the fire, this time the Mi-8s can drop sand and Borat

    • @Discotekh_Dynasty
      @Discotekh_Dynasty 4 роки тому +2

      Mai wife

    • @tisFrancesfault
      @tisFrancesfault 4 роки тому +2

      Interesting fact; Sach Baron Cohen is a total self important asshole in person.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +2

      @@tisFrancesfault I wouldn't contest that. Unfortunately, unlike the fictional character of Borat, he is not anti-Semitic and therefore of no use as a fire retardant in Ukrainian forest fires.

  • @TemplarOnHigh
    @TemplarOnHigh 4 роки тому +31

    44:00
    Cars good now, but only if driven by cops.
    Cops bad.
    Trains good, cars bad.
    Therefore we can conclude that the bad is negative. Thus bad² must be positive (provided that bad ∩ the real numbers.)
    So when bad cop drives bad car, car gets a bad² and bad² makes car good.
    So if a car is on a train (like the AutoTrain,) train is bad. Or if a cop drives a train, train is bad too.

    • @MozTS
      @MozTS 4 роки тому

      TemplarOnHigh ACTAB

  • @SeedlessProductions
    @SeedlessProductions 4 роки тому +19

    New challenge: Justin say, "right" even more, and everyone else say "right" every time after.

    • @Tadesan
      @Tadesan 4 роки тому +1

      Collin Dow right right right right

    • @michaelkitchin9665
      @michaelkitchin9665 4 роки тому +2

      At school we did that with a couple of teachers. It ... got out of hand.

  • @polarvortex6496
    @polarvortex6496 Рік тому +5

    5:00
    *Looks at calendar (Oct. 2022)*
    *Looks into camera*

  • @4terrascorned
    @4terrascorned 4 роки тому +48

    Love the new segment! "The Goddamned news". How are Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Micheal and Mike?

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +10

      Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Michael, Mike, and Mike's cousin Mikhail who flies a firefighting Mi-8 in Ukraine

    • @forcea1454
      @forcea1454 4 роки тому +5

      @@RoamingAdhocrat Don't forget Michelle.

    • @forcea1454
      @forcea1454 4 роки тому +2

      @ThisIsMyRealName I'm sorry to betray you like this, as a result of their attitude towards Nuclear Power, I love the French.

    • @acassiopeia6439
      @acassiopeia6439 4 роки тому +8

      Fuck their attitudes on nukes, their union movement and attitudes on striking and punching cops is why we should love the French.

    • @ivanoffw
      @ivanoffw 4 роки тому

      I believe that you are missing their friend Mike, as well as Russian Mike who wanted to make plows, instead made a "gun"

  • @Monothefox
    @Monothefox 4 роки тому +20

    The F-35's ejection seat is something else: EVERY pilot gets neck injuries and 25 % BREAK their necks. Apparently, the big honking VR helmet is just too heavy.

    • @The5lacker
      @The5lacker 4 роки тому +14

      I'm shocked, shocked I say, that this endless cavalcade of failure and hubris continues to surprise me with new and exciting vectors of self-inflicted failure. Truly, money well spent.

  • @TheTaquitoProject
    @TheTaquitoProject 4 роки тому +7

    "I'm Danger Dam" "No, I'M Danger Dam"

  • @tempe405
    @tempe405 4 роки тому +8

    At the risk of giving feedback, I really liked the news segment and the charts. Especially the charts. Even if the charts derail things, the charts are very nice and informative to look at.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 4 роки тому +4

    I love the impressively wide range of pretty obscure references for making jokes. It's really fun to listen to people who know a lot of different stuff.
    Didn't expect casual thoughts on acts of god in catholic and protestant theology.

  • @jbkjbk1999
    @jbkjbk1999 3 роки тому +6

    A big part of this podcast is spotting Ros randomly mispronouncing words in clearly intentional ways. 16:13 "co-alqu-lly"

  • @adrift-at-c
    @adrift-at-c 4 роки тому +30

    Have you considered, instead of dropping antisemitism on the fires you drop antisemites?

  • @thomaszinser8714
    @thomaszinser8714 4 роки тому +33

    I'll note that Bugatti was founded in a town that was at the time German, namely in Alsace. So it's not getting taken over by the Germans, so much as getting reclaimed by them.

    • @alkischrysanthopoulos5712
      @alkischrysanthopoulos5712 4 роки тому +8

      I think that may make it historically more problematic, as it wouldn't be the first time Germans "reclaimed" part of their "Elsass".

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 4 роки тому +17

    Dirt bad, trains good

    • @Frommerman
      @Frommerman 3 роки тому

      Has a train ever slid into a reservoir, resulting in the collapse of the dam, the deaths of hundreds of people, and the destruction of billions of fashdollars worth of infrastructure? No? That's what I fucking thought.

  • @vegancowboy
    @vegancowboy 4 роки тому +12

    All this dam talk has got me thinking about the town of Bassano, Alberta, whose town slogan is "The Best in the West by a Damsite".

    • @maxine3978
      @maxine3978 4 роки тому

      There's a city in Veneto with that name

    • @annafdd
      @annafdd 3 роки тому

      @@maxine3978 very near the Vajont, even.

  • @alloymetal7861
    @alloymetal7861 4 роки тому +6

    I'm quite impressed that Alice knows what a gopnik is. (An American friend of mine used to think it meant "member of the GOP".)

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +20

    Trains good, cars bad, horses chaotic neutral, dams lawful evil?

    • @redbasher636
      @redbasher636 4 роки тому +3

      Dams are SUPER STRONG and can take MAJOR damage. I would say they are the lawful good paladin tank

  • @ericjamieson
    @ericjamieson 4 роки тому +19

    Y'all talking about great cop cars like you never even heard of Aspen, CO PD and their Saab 9000 fleet.

    • @francistheodorecatte
      @francistheodorecatte 4 роки тому +7

      as a saab owner and cop hater they've always been my favorite

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y 4 роки тому +3

      I'd love to see a police-tuned 9000 turbo.... as standard you could double the boost pressure by winding the nut on the wastegate all the way out, it even showed you in the owners manual how to do it! I think that may have been for high altitude use (like Aspen I suppose), but every 9000 owner I ever met who read the manual had also done the same mod :)
      If you ever see one in a scrap yard, I'll give you a 50/50 chance that the nut has feel off due to excessive WOOOOOOOSH and vibrations associated with constant wheelspin in 4th and 5th gear, usually refitting the nut will have it come back to life again

    • @ericjamieson
      @ericjamieson 4 роки тому +2

      @@mor4y Actually IIRC the ease of tuning the boost pressure for high altitude performance was the the specific reason Aspen PD and a couple of other Colorado PDs like Saabs so much.

    • @aggese
      @aggese 4 роки тому +1

      Why did a us police department get Swedish cars?
      Another fun thing I am from an are not that far from where the Saab factory was but next to a lake with the name "Aspen"
      P.s. Swedish police use Volvo cars basically exclusively

    • @ericjamieson
      @ericjamieson 4 роки тому +2

      @@aggese AFAIK it was because Aspen CO is at 8,000 ft elevation and the Saab turbo is really easy to tune for high performance at high altitudes, and there really was no American equivalent.

  • @ashbelero
    @ashbelero 3 роки тому +4

    Just finished a Junji Ito book yesterday that I bought and have been discussing Junji Ito all fucking day, and here comes Alice with the Enigma of Amigara Fault. No, Alice, this is MY hole! It was made for ME!

  • @colonelgraff9198
    @colonelgraff9198 4 роки тому +16

    Well there’s your podcast

  • @spyarks
    @spyarks 4 роки тому +4

    I love your podcast-like content. Keep telling stories we haven't heard before

  • @drewgehringer7813
    @drewgehringer7813 4 роки тому +4

    Portland Oregon has turbines inside the drinking water pipes that extract some power, but it has the unusual geographic situation of having main drinking water sources at a considerably higher elevation than the rest of the city: the water pressure is too high and needs some sort of relief anyway, why not get electricity while you slow the water down?

  • @luminalflux
    @luminalflux 4 роки тому +6

    Regarding extracting heat from sewage: Stockholm does this at the Hammarby heating plant. They take treated outflow from the Henriksdal plant (which treats most of Stockholm's wastewater) and run it through heat pumps and use that for district heating of southern Stockholm. It generates (according to Stockholm Exergi which is the dumbest name ever) 1.2 TWh a year of heat.
    After it's run through the heat pumps they use the cold water as a heat sink for district cooling as well. I have no idea how this works thermodynamically i'm just a computer toucher.

  • @pemryjanes5789
    @pemryjanes5789 4 роки тому +3

    Glad to hear the dutch were not forgotten in this episode.

  • @Huntracony
    @Huntracony 4 роки тому +5

    Turns out, the dam is also about 250m tall. So that wave was a whole dam-height higher than the dam.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 4 роки тому +4

    I think a good topic for an episode could be the 1921 amonium nitrate plant explosion in Oppau. Interesting disaster and I assume a lot of fun can be had with interwar German mega corporations.

  • @shdwdrmr-dq3lo
    @shdwdrmr-dq3lo 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for releasing these so regularly! I'm glad I'm a patron of this awesome podcast!

  • @TwoWholeWorms
    @TwoWholeWorms 4 роки тому +6

    Speaking of bridges, it's been a while since you covered one, and the Morandi Bridge in Genoa would be a perfect candidate for it. The Genovian Police actually released the video footage of it collapsing from nearby CCTV cameras as well, and you can see one of the supports just detach from the deck and it just folds up like a chair. :/

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y 4 роки тому +2

      I was just thinking of that bridge (AvE has a good video from a engineers p.o.v, worth a watch), and a few others with serious damage, which are all bridges built by the US after WW2.... not really the fault of the americans though, they didn't expect the bridges to last past either 1970 or 1980, the Italians had been patching them up instead of replacing them
      AvE also has videos on the google building crane collapse, and the collapse of that ridiculous bridge in the US designed by a uni department with zero experience of actually designing any real world stuff, that's a particularly good one as a real engineer (mining I think, not even construction!) could spot the issue within minutes, and had his suspicions confirmed months later by the investigation

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 2 роки тому

      I thought the demonym for people from Genoa was Genoese! Isn't Genovia the country from The Princess Diaries?

    • @TwoWholeWorms
      @TwoWholeWorms 2 роки тому +1

      @@ClaudiaNW Wikipedia says "Genoese" or "Genovese", so my bad!

  • @tomcoletti3427
    @tomcoletti3427 4 роки тому +6

    breaking news: elizabeth warren finally endorsed the mudslide

  • @kaiserschnitzel89
    @kaiserschnitzel89 9 місяців тому +1

    "maximum creep" and "rate of creep" are going into my regular vocabulary rotation

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 4 роки тому +1

    Weir can also be used to change the chemistry of rivers as well as give surfaces for algae to clean the water. The turbulence pushed down over soft rocks like limestone with air drawn into the falling water can be used to deal with quite a few problems. In southern spain there's a large area that uses water works to purify runoff and cattle waste as well.

  • @kurtpena5462
    @kurtpena5462 2 роки тому +1

    The Piezometer indication may be a measure of groundwater level.
    The purple Atlantic Coast Line livery was awesome, Liam!

  • @vcostello712
    @vcostello712 4 роки тому +4

    29:15 so you're telling me seattle floated this idea of putting turbines in the pipes full of hot human shit
    thus potentially creating the job title of "man who has to install/fix the turbines in the pipe full of hot human shit"

  • @gnashings
    @gnashings 4 роки тому +2

    You get a watch. A very nice watch, and the one given to ejection survivors is unique and exclusive and can not be purchased on the open market, it has a unique case colour.

  • @Cozmito
    @Cozmito 4 місяці тому

    22:53 I’ve never seen a more perfect set up for a Groudon-Kyogre joke go unused like this

  • @joinedupjon
    @joinedupjon 4 роки тому +6

    23:14 and the most important purpose of all - to give the mayor and the local legitimate businessmen somewhere to show off in their speedboats and take their mistresses waterskiing.

  • @rulebretgne5244
    @rulebretgne5244 2 роки тому +3

    2 years later, this news aged like milk

  • @youtubeisawebsite7484
    @youtubeisawebsite7484 4 роки тому +8

    1:07:24 hell yeah team fortress 2 reference

  • @LeeSussLetsPlays
    @LeeSussLetsPlays 4 роки тому +4

    Question: is the “I got ejected” necktie in a yellow and black stripe pattern?

  • @ViperhawkX
    @ViperhawkX 4 роки тому +3

    The Vickers Valiant was a jet bomber developed for the Royal Air Force in the 1950s. It had a crew of five: a pilot, a co-pilot, an air signaller, and two navigators. In case of an emergency, it was equipped with ejector seats. Specifically, two ejector seats: one each for the pilot and co-pilot. So what about the other three crew members? Well, they were supposed to open the hatch and bail out of the plane. The hatch which happened to be located right in front of the intakes for the two port-side Rolls-Royce Avon turbojet engines, and also the entire left wing. Good luck!

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 4 роки тому +2

      Same for the HP Victor and Avro Vulcan. Pilots had ejector seats - other three crew had to make their own arrangements. They sat facing backwards and when the aircraft were designed, they weren't sure if backward-facing seats would work.
      Martin-Baker demonstrated rear-facing ejector seats work just fine, but the Air Ministry declined to pay to retrofit the aircraft or put ejector seats in new V-Bombers either.
      Then, HP Victor XH668 fell into the Irish Sea with all hands - the pilots stayed with the aircraft to give the other aircrew a chance. The RAF spent more recovering the wreckage and the data recorders than it would've cost to fit the seats.

    • @tisFrancesfault
      @tisFrancesfault 4 роки тому

      They had a tendency to have less then positive outcimes when the V bombers had ..."issues".

  • @bearVshark100
    @bearVshark100 Рік тому +3

    Unexpected cross section with Alice and Elwood Blues for using cop stuff to do non-cop things

  • @distantprince4564
    @distantprince4564 2 роки тому +2

    In biology mycology is the everything was discovered in like the last couple years. fungi are weird and a lot of them don’t really care about us they usually care more about plants but they kinda “think”. and we straight up are like uhh well lichen is doing it’s own thing

  • @ken-dog
    @ken-dog Рік тому +1

    "As you can see it's been photocopied about 6 times, that's how you know it's an official document" 😂 that is 100% true.

  • @mushroomc0re
    @mushroomc0re 4 роки тому +3

    As someone who had to read scientific papers on the fish tube and fish ladders I say: destroy all dams

  • @armitageshanks73
    @armitageshanks73 4 роки тому +1

    "Please don't tell me about a hydro-electric shit lagoon" killed me.

  • @SiliconSlick69
    @SiliconSlick69 4 роки тому +138

    press f to pay your respects for the activate windows logo

  • @starwall8755
    @starwall8755 4 роки тому +2

    I love this podcast where has it been all of my life

  • @chronikuru
    @chronikuru 2 роки тому +3

    There's a 251m tall skyscraper near me and I can see it from my window, so I went to look out at it to get a visual of the height of this wave. And then I went to go sit back down, because what the fuck. Absolutely not.