11 More Scary Mods to Turn Fallout 4 into a Horror Game

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  • @skeelachan7586
    @skeelachan7586 5 років тому +779

    12:39 that skeleton giving birth to a radroach is trully messed up

  • @BigChief_1337
    @BigChief_1337 4 роки тому +180

    13:45 That ACTUALLY spooked me I thought they were moving but then it was that synth with a deep voice

  • @sinwashereable
    @sinwashereable 5 років тому +1312

    Hey guys, so TreyM , one of the mod authors who made Pilgrim, is leaving the modding community due to his father getting colon cancer. If you can guys, give a shoutout and well wishes to his family. Thanks

    • @ghostlyspook3128
      @ghostlyspook3128 5 років тому +29

      I honestly wish him the best, he will get through it ❤❤

    • @darkmasteroverlord372
      @darkmasteroverlord372 4 роки тому +9

      I can't imagine a loved one getting a disease. My thoughts are with TreyM.

    • @jordacai6552
      @jordacai6552 4 роки тому +6

      I hope he gets through it 🙏

    • @idontgetit5062
      @idontgetit5062 4 роки тому +1

      Lol noob

    • @Xavipoli.
      @Xavipoli. 4 роки тому +9

      @@idontgetit5062 why can't I see who wrote this comment

  • @vintagestealth8802
    @vintagestealth8802 5 років тому +287

    @0:49 why does that prop look like he’s gonna tell me we live in a society

  • @mindblower93
    @mindblower93 5 років тому +213

    honestly, i always make my game look much more realistic, maybe a touch too oversaturated, and tend to favor visibility over fake horror. You'd be suprised how scary you can make the game if you make it look as real as possible.

    • @tsesuutromaria2459
      @tsesuutromaria2459 5 років тому +11

      Sarah Plays Games do u mind listing your load order?

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 5 років тому +5

      TBH, I would love to make my Fallout 4 more realistic. But I would need all of the DLCs in order to get some Fallout 3 weapons.

    • @nanoqht285
      @nanoqht285 5 років тому +23

      Exactly! If you Want a scary game, you need an immersive game.

    • @detectivemadoka69420
      @detectivemadoka69420 5 років тому +5

      This is so true, i did it to mine and it's way more immersive/creepy than any "scary" mod.

    • @jacksonelh
      @jacksonelh 4 роки тому +11

      but an immersive game doesnt have to be a realistic game. to each their own, and no knocking people who like hyperrealism, but immersion is more about the feeling of the world than how close to reality it 8s

  • @julian23561
    @julian23561 5 років тому +116

    2:52.
    Sigh,
    Two of the best modders on the Nexus having a fight. Their creations were my favorite.

    • @Strutsss
      @Strutsss 4 роки тому +25

      They reconciled in the end. Sadly one of them left (TreyM) due to his dad getting colon cancer.

  • @HyperrealisticLuigi
    @HyperrealisticLuigi 4 роки тому +170

    I remember this really shitty console mod called "A nightmare in diamond city" where you got teleported and fought a Ghoul wearing a power fist called Freddy Krueger
    He looked NOTHING like Freddy Krueger

    • @mikefromwockhardt8469
      @mikefromwockhardt8469 4 роки тому +33

      I remember a similar one in skyrim but when u choose ur door in the beginning there was a naked orc named mike tyson that one shots u

    • @gokukakarotto7393
      @gokukakarotto7393 4 роки тому +6

      Uve also watched the good burger movie, that film is funny ash

    • @koolaidklankillers
      @koolaidklankillers 4 роки тому +3

      I keep seeing that pfp

    • @MrJazzyMan
      @MrJazzyMan 4 роки тому +2

      Bruh I played that, But I used cheat room and just shredded him with the mini nuke minigun

  • @DamianKenny8
    @DamianKenny8 4 роки тому +400

    Fallout 4 really lacked that dark vibe that the other fallouts had

    • @tariqh.
      @tariqh. 4 роки тому +38

      dont think new vegas had a dark vibe at all

    • @tariqh.
      @tariqh. 4 роки тому +4

      @@mikeboydus oh yeah I do rem one of them dlcs being like that

    • @FobosUroboros
      @FobosUroboros 4 роки тому +2

      None since fallout 3

    • @consume_egg1338
      @consume_egg1338 4 роки тому +15

      @@tariqh. It does if you switch the radio off.

    • @wotwott2319
      @wotwott2319 4 роки тому +1

      @@tariqh. *cough* vault 22 *cough*

  • @Glass-Lemonade
    @Glass-Lemonade 5 років тому +244

    The synth voice edits remind me a lot of the combine soldiers from half life 2

    • @bioniclemac300
      @bioniclemac300 5 років тому +32

      "pick up the can" *bleep*

    • @lamp_lord8458
      @lamp_lord8458 5 років тому +4

      *oh no*

    • @NODnuke45
      @NODnuke45 4 роки тому +3

      If they had radio static and their voices weren't quite AS deep they would pretty much be the same.

    • @Splugsyy
      @Splugsyy 4 роки тому +1

      Facts

    • @HyperrealisticLuigi
      @HyperrealisticLuigi 4 роки тому +4

      Now all I need is a mod to make Protectrons sound like Aperture Turrets

  • @DxdEyez
    @DxdEyez 4 роки тому +442

    The scariest mod would be
    Minecraft cave sounds mod

  • @jetstreamvik9570
    @jetstreamvik9570 4 роки тому +17

    Creepy Mannequins makes me want a weeping angel style mod where the mannequins leave their stands when you look away, slowly closing the distance until they suddenly attack you, combine the two and now you'd definitely up that scare factor.

  • @lego007guym8
    @lego007guym8 4 роки тому +20

    With the synth voice mod thing, I think it would be terrifying that one version had higher voices and the other had deeper voices. Like, the older versions voice boxes decay from the wasteland and have deeper voices because of it. And then, the newer versions, the ones that the Institute has guarding their home have the higher voices designed to sound nice. Or, the newer ones have deeper voices to help intimidate others and then the older ones have higher voices because of voice box malfunctions. They sound like everything is ok when its not.

  • @loadergaming4319
    @loadergaming4319 5 років тому +174

    “High pitched demonic screeching”

  • @Stuartette
    @Stuartette 4 роки тому +74

    7:06 THATS NOT A SYNTH THATS THE DEVIL HIMSELF

  • @laketownmusic
    @laketownmusic 4 роки тому +25

    6:13 that scared the heck out of me lol

  • @jameshudson6414
    @jameshudson6414 5 років тому +46

    The raider children mod lore fits with fallout 3 dark lore.. interesting

  • @cartercollier990
    @cartercollier990 4 роки тому +75

    Whispering Hills: Allow me to introduce to myself

    • @kholtonthebarbarian2590
      @kholtonthebarbarian2590 4 роки тому +8

      juan jose torres rios well he did feature it in the previous video, but yes. Anyone who hasn’t tried it, do.

    • @guyinplaid3472
      @guyinplaid3472 3 роки тому +3

      Holy moly that is a horrifying mod

    • @kiddblue8546
      @kiddblue8546 3 роки тому +5

      @@guyinplaid3472 literally playing it rn with complete minimum brightness...I think I’m psychotic

    • @guyinplaid3472
      @guyinplaid3472 3 роки тому +1

      @@kiddblue8546 you might just be

    • @agentofchaos4441
      @agentofchaos4441 3 роки тому +1

      That Sounds Pretty Insane. But I Like Insane So I'll Do It Too!!!!!!!!

  • @landonnewsome3098
    @landonnewsome3098 4 роки тому +6

    8:20 That recoil though

  • @cryptozoologistinvestigato6964
    @cryptozoologistinvestigato6964 5 років тому +67

    Some more ideas for mods I have are this:
    Animal overhaul: it adds more animal variants
    Goris fallout 2 companion: adds goris the talking deathclaw
    Chinese remnants sub faction: adds chinese soldiers obviously
    Civil war armor: it's name says it
    Mole rat queen: ads scrapped fallout enemy
    Master's army super mutants: super mutants/ nightkin from Fallout 1 2 and new vegas
    Wasteland cryptids: adds unique creatures which you can either kill or keep as pets
    Manwell weapons: based on the CC weapon but adds pistols and shotguns to make it seem like Manwell is an actual arms company

    • @joevsjoes1799
      @joevsjoes1799 5 років тому +1

      Exploration Mods

    • @viperblizzard01h33
      @viperblizzard01h33 5 років тому +2

      I would love the masters army one that would be awesome

    • @itsrainingcatsandfrogs2456
      @itsrainingcatsandfrogs2456 5 років тому

      Where do you find the wasteland cryptids mod?

    • @cryptozoologistinvestigato6964
      @cryptozoologistinvestigato6964 5 років тому +2

      It's Raining Cats And Frogs it doesn't exist its just an idea I came up with
      I liked how Fallout 76 created some enemies based of of cryptids in the Appalachian area so I'd like to see a mod that does something similar

    • @tsesuutromaria2459
      @tsesuutromaria2459 5 років тому +2

      Good ideas man, i still don't get why there's no monsters adding mods in this game. I keep coming for these juice themeed vids hoping to see that and always end up disappointed

  • @Fat_Casual
    @Fat_Casual 4 роки тому +4

    My favorite sound mod, is the one that replaces ghoul sounds with the flood sounds from Halo. Works great with the Zombie Ghoul mod, and Ghoul retexture mod.

  • @borisabomg1049
    @borisabomg1049 4 роки тому +2

    The cool thing about the night of the creeps mod is that the black ghouls have huge roaming distance so it'll run around half the map looking for something to attack once it spawns. It is also possible to encounter them during the day, but they'll run away from you if you see them.

  • @ajiibshah3760
    @ajiibshah3760 3 роки тому +2

    Yoo the synth sounds gave me goosebumps they're sooo good

  • @ShinZi4090
    @ShinZi4090 5 років тому +16

    13:50 that scared me 😶

  • @Aidan-di5is
    @Aidan-di5is 5 років тому +58

    "Boo!" said the scary ghost.

  • @deltacommand8053
    @deltacommand8053 5 років тому +9

    Deeper voice Synths? I personally find them funny and was laughing the first time i heard them.
    Deeper voice Ghouls? PURGE THEM IN FLAME!!!

  • @hinokami5688
    @hinokami5688 5 років тому +8

    Never tried it but theres another mod like pilgrim called morose it adds new music, ambient sounds and new weathers but no enb. It seemed quite scary too.

  • @hazelhypercurve7070
    @hazelhypercurve7070 4 роки тому +4

    6:00 looks like death stranding but more terrifying

  • @aramireu
    @aramireu 3 роки тому +1

    For those wondering what mod is the bolt-action rifle is in the intro, it's Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.1 - Britain's Finest on Nexus.

  • @trygveblacktiger597
    @trygveblacktiger597 4 роки тому +18

    Me seeing Senscence and Polluted Climate.
    What is this Fallout Stalker or something

  • @justinnguyen2605
    @justinnguyen2605 5 років тому +9

    I kinda want to see a mod that puts the bear from Annihilation (the bear that screams help me) into the game

    • @datboi5276
      @datboi5276 2 роки тому

      That scene was one of very few movie scenes that actually gave me the creeps

  • @jessmeowmeow
    @jessmeowmeow 5 років тому +2

    I hope you feel rested from your day off ! Missed ya yesterday but you definitely deserve some time to yourself! Love your videos and keep up the great work!

  • @TheSeforian
    @TheSeforian 5 років тому +1

    I think all the mods above + Darker Nights (darkest option) while you play and not using any flashlight or night vision makes things really spooky. In times I just started to scream by things jumping out from the dark while I'm trying to find the path to somewhere.

  • @hardcaselj111
    @hardcaselj111 4 роки тому +1

    One of my favorite things to do in fallout 4 is to use a mod like minutemen national guard and have 2-3 minutemen following me and when I'm going into a horror mod so it seems like the minutemen are investigating a disturbance or something like that

  • @obungasplus1267
    @obungasplus1267 4 роки тому

    I respect you so much as a youtuber, I've only watched this and one other video of you and I am already subbing. Keep at it my guy, this is amazing content

  • @pmedwards42
    @pmedwards42 5 років тому +5

    I'd like to hear about mods that make FO4 harder. Frost is one of my favorites and regular Survival has become fairly trivial. I enjoy your regular mod update videos. Thanks for the effort!

  • @cakeee5720
    @cakeee5720 3 роки тому +1

    Nothings scarier than getting ambushed by 2 deathclaws when trying to make ur way back to sanctuary hill after finishing nick valentines quest, its survival and u didn't sleep at diamond city

  • @joeyj6808
    @joeyj6808 5 років тому +1

    Dude...you're killing me here. Finite time, finite computer, and you keep making me add more mods to play! (DON'T STOP!)

  • @someoneontheinternet1317
    @someoneontheinternet1317 5 років тому +6

    7:04
    So, I play without the volume, and I thought that the synths had another, more elegant voice, to fit with the high-tech -ness with the Institute, and I was pretty disappointed when I heard their real voices. I'd like another synth voiceover.

  • @Puckmonsterhockey
    @Puckmonsterhockey 5 років тому +5

    JUICE HEAD BETTA GET THAT RECOGNITION! Great content bro.

  • @Sir_Stalwart
    @Sir_Stalwart 3 роки тому +1

    Concerning the "Raider Children" mod; I like it a lot because it is really dark and quite disturbing, but what was really interesting and very unexpected was all the references to Stephen King's The Dark Tower series that the mod author put in there. I just finished those books a few weeks back and this mod was the last thing I expected to find to contain so many references.
    If you haven't read them, do it! Then install that mod! It blew my mind!

  • @cr12431
    @cr12431 4 роки тому +1

    Happy masks is a good one where random items are made into head armor very spooky

  • @voodoopup4376
    @voodoopup4376 4 роки тому

    13:47 i honestly wasnt ready for that

  • @kspayton
    @kspayton 4 роки тому +1

    you should try whispering hills. its a silent hill mod :). install it after pilgrim and install pilgrims recommended tree and grass overhauls. its got several silent hill monsters and the whole dragged into the otherworld thing with sirens and a pitch black sky. it is amazing.

  • @gotem2609
    @gotem2609 5 років тому +6

    7:20 sounds like the synths injected themselves with testosterome

  • @gaming_bigfoot
    @gaming_bigfoot 5 років тому +3

    I've done RadiGhoul. Gets kinda harsh on Survival, and has some ways to cheese it, but it's a good bit of fun.

  • @Neeher
    @Neeher 5 років тому +6

    Lol, finally you cover it!
    Anyway.... new spooky mod for Halloween? Maybe...

  • @BlueEyesWhiteTeddy
    @BlueEyesWhiteTeddy 4 роки тому +4

    If synths start to sound like terminators my pants aren't the same colour anymore...

  • @Aimlessimp05
    @Aimlessimp05 5 років тому

    I use vivid weathers, nuclear winter, winter season texture mod(any winter wine will do), walker zombies, darker nights then set the walker zombies mod to replace pretty much anything that not a major faction or animal, robot or sythn. What this does makes it pretty much a zombie wastelands where you will be pretty much the only one around and with the weather and dark lighting mod using the silent hill weather option is just amazing.

  • @ellie8674
    @ellie8674 4 роки тому +3

    My only problem with the Classic Fallout music is that I've heard it so much lol. It's good, but would make me sick

  • @crayonchomper1180
    @crayonchomper1180 5 років тому

    All I want is a modular Springfield M1A w/ an Archangel stock w/ a 1-6x toggleable scope (with full peripheral vision when ADS'ed), some usable canted sights, scope mounts and barrel shrouds
    as well as adding 6.5 mm Creedmoor ammo that any .308 can be changed with due to their heavily similar, if not identical cartridge size, making only a change of barrel necessary

  • @tosirainflower3314
    @tosirainflower3314 4 роки тому +1

    I'm definitely going to give pilgrim a try when I get a PC. Great video

  • @toastertech1181
    @toastertech1181 5 років тому +6

    strangely the synth voice mod reminds me of the combine from half life 2

  • @AutumnThe_Toaster
    @AutumnThe_Toaster 2 роки тому

    That raider children thing is probably the most realistic thing you can find

  • @willk3807
    @willk3807 3 роки тому

    Bro I was just talking about how the feeling of a post Apocalypse world was missing.
    If I could make mods I would focus on acid/radioactive rain. Literally at its worst the rain glows. Shelter inside or your armor and guns suffer. Not only will your gear rust away and become irradiated. Your health will too as well. Just think this would be pretty awesome. Kinda like how the rain ruins your weapons in Far Cry 2&3. Anyone help yourself to my mod idea

  • @Minutemenofficial2
    @Minutemenofficial2 Рік тому

    The aggressive synth overhaul reminds me of the combine

  • @UneasyTortoise
    @UneasyTortoise 4 роки тому +2

    13:50 nah dont worry i didnt need to sleep anyway

  • @CJL-tj8or
    @CJL-tj8or 4 роки тому +14

    There’s a sirenhead mod. Make a new vid. There might be more.

  • @loslobosa1259
    @loslobosa1259 2 роки тому

    woot ty was looking spooky mods and this did it for me ty for the upload

  • @joritos2147
    @joritos2147 4 роки тому +1

    Pilgrim looks like it makes your game turn into HATRED

  • @karroq
    @karroq 4 роки тому

    I've got one on the Xbox that replaces the ghoul sounds with the clicker sounds from the last of us, and it's SUPER spooky.

  • @someoneontheinternet1317
    @someoneontheinternet1317 5 років тому +1

    I am NOT a mod author! I am just a player!
    So here are a few mod ideas I have:
    T-46 PA
    T-47 PA
    T-48 PA
    T-50 PA
    And all the other PA models between the T-51 and the T-60.
    Creature-adding packs: It's self-explanatory.
    Ex:
    The Megalodon
    Scorchbeasts
    Tunnelcrawlers
    A few more weapon packs.

    • @NectisOW
      @NectisOW 4 роки тому

      Someone on the internet we already have t-49. Its the armor of the storyteller

    • @someoneontheinternet1317
      @someoneontheinternet1317 4 роки тому +1

      I forgot. I'll change my comment.

  • @oldchannel1843
    @oldchannel1843 5 років тому +3

    Spooktober mods you mean

  • @EmpireWastes
    @EmpireWastes 5 років тому

    This will be great for an October Playthrough.
    Great video!

  • @redaye1801
    @redaye1801 4 роки тому

    The cool thing with pilgrim is that its so quite that when you reload a gun its sound more satisyfy

  • @Sean-py8gu
    @Sean-py8gu 4 роки тому

    13:27 IRL Revolver: makes bullet hole
    Fallout Revolver: makes head blow up

  • @petzouqi76
    @petzouqi76 4 роки тому +6

    Aggressive Synth Voice Over. sounds like the Half Life 1998 Special Operatives.

  • @SheppardOfNumenor
    @SheppardOfNumenor 5 років тому +6

    Cannot wait until your Christmas list for making the Commnwealth cheerier.

  • @joshdilsaver2654
    @joshdilsaver2654 4 роки тому

    Hey juicehead I love all these mods and would love to subscribe to them but I think the 4 Sim Settlements along with my other 30 mods are making my my computer to ctd.
    Keep up the good work 👌

  • @PosthumanHeresy
    @PosthumanHeresy 4 роки тому

    Oh god we're getting the Real is Brown mods. The circle is complete.

  • @Ad3tr
    @Ad3tr 5 років тому +1

    I might try some of these in Fallout 4 VR. Now that’s terrifying.

  • @jonwashburn7999
    @jonwashburn7999 5 років тому +5

    I like the synth voice mod overhaul. I should reinstall to use it.

    • @vietnamflashback8855
      @vietnamflashback8855 5 років тому +6

      it reminds me of the metrocop voices from half life

    • @Lavi____
      @Lavi____ 5 років тому +1

      @@vietnamflashback8855 Made me think of the machines in Terminator: Salvation.

  • @Deshenne
    @Deshenne 5 років тому +10

    i'm having serious anxiety attacks because of the constants reload of the weapon's due to one bullet being shot.

    • @blarp1020
      @blarp1020 4 роки тому +1

      berto savage that on top of the fact the animation chambers a new round even with a round in the chamber every time

  • @outlawryu3563
    @outlawryu3563 4 роки тому +1

    I remember playing the kelly manor when it first came out. It was well done

  • @jamesbaucom9295
    @jamesbaucom9295 5 років тому

    Not gonna lie.. I havent picked up fallout 4 since november of last year. Until AHS Apocalypse came around and now I'm completing a playthrough thanks to these mods.

  • @A_7ft_Sasquatch
    @A_7ft_Sasquatch 5 років тому +1

    Im absolutely loving the scary mods videos, kind of sad that most of them aren't on the xbox though

  • @youngman850
    @youngman850 5 років тому

    The synth voice overhaul is just cool in my opinion.

  • @MrJazzyMan
    @MrJazzyMan 4 роки тому

    I mean, You could use the deeper ghoul sounds, or use the frickin Halo 3 Flood sounds (Is actually REALLY scary when you have mods that make damage alot more realistic)

  • @ykl5141
    @ykl5141 4 роки тому +1

    When you don't wanna play a super scary game like out last so you turn to fallout

  • @XiaDaoMan
    @XiaDaoMan 4 роки тому

    They should make a mod that adds a mannequin that pretends to be inanimate but attacks you when spotted.

  • @jenniferlawrence886
    @jenniferlawrence886 4 роки тому +2

    I'm all ready scared from the gouls. 😨

  • @luke-rd8nt
    @luke-rd8nt 4 роки тому

    Deadass turned the synths into Nekrons

  • @Freeman4815
    @Freeman4815 4 роки тому

    Someone should do a mod working as that with Black goul and Black bear (in night time), but only with manequins. With scary faces from showed up mod. Manequins that don't move, just spawn behind you and making damage only if you don't look at them. But they can spawn at variuos amounts.

  • @zednight4171
    @zednight4171 3 роки тому

    For ghouls voice/noise, i have a mod i use on xbox called horrorghouls soundpack (made by Failip on nexus, ported by LandoCummando on xbox).
    What this mod do ?, it add around 280 new ghouls sound to replace those cheap bad zombie voices by actual undead creature noise that crave for your flesh, use it with the realistic weather mod that everyone know and the zombie walker mod, and you'll love those rainy night in a city filled with death (personaly i do)

  • @49mozzer
    @49mozzer 5 років тому +5

    So the second one just turns FO4 into a brown an grey modern FPS?

  • @A_ship
    @A_ship 2 роки тому

    I know a good horror mod for ps4 it doesn't add anything but it makes the game more scary like more wasteland themed which makes it scary

  • @novaprospekt6741
    @novaprospekt6741 4 роки тому

    That sounds like what deathtrooper's voice be like instead of static.

  • @kakatui
    @kakatui 3 роки тому

    6:09
    "soul leaves body"

  • @FlayedFather
    @FlayedFather 4 роки тому

    Man those Aggressive Synth voices sound like Chaos Terminator from Warhammer

  • @someguy._.
    @someguy._. 4 роки тому

    1:02 that mod kinda gives me a fallout 3 vibe

  • @dominut_is_art604
    @dominut_is_art604 2 роки тому +1

    if I download one of these mods I'll be scared yes but if pull out the fatman I think I'll get some of those courage back

  • @Jorge93226
    @Jorge93226 4 роки тому

    When u pause the game with whispering hills but the sirens don’t stop:iM iN dAnGeR

  • @sifusonic7965
    @sifusonic7965 5 років тому +5

    Call back comment
    I think I just found that the "Feral Ghoul Queen" u ran into during your horror live stream was added by the mod "Raider children and other horrors of the Commonwealth"

    • @tsesuutromaria2459
      @tsesuutromaria2459 5 років тому

      I am Michael are you sure of that? Is that a image of this creature u can show me?

  • @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal
    @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 5 років тому +9

    Don't need a mod just need me in the room while you're playing maybe with a couple mirrors and some paint cans

  • @RookieMed1a
    @RookieMed1a 4 роки тому +1

    Man you just love the words "fear factor" don't ya?

  • @impborgie2190
    @impborgie2190 4 роки тому

    For all of you that want to giva fallout more of a horror game vibe use Whispering hills, seriously that mod makes fallout a lot scarier!

  • @Toasty22-60
    @Toasty22-60 4 роки тому

    13:49
    legit scarred me

  • @SolisFactor
    @SolisFactor 5 років тому

    JuiceCranium really out here not using the AS Val reanimation pack.

  • @notrdy4thisjelly546
    @notrdy4thisjelly546 4 роки тому

    I want to try the raider children mod with knockout framework. It’d be sweet to have the extra challenge to knock the kids out instead of straight up killing them.

  • @teaman1275
    @teaman1275 5 років тому

    Great video incredible mods :)

  • @feral-
    @feral- 5 років тому +2

    I’ve been waiting for this.