Breaking News: RAM IS KILLING OFF THE CUMMINS For 2025!!!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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His videos are quite good, but like 85% of his video titles are click bait guys lol
same thing scotty does
@@cantwealljustgetalong2
Yep, Scotty quit again 😂
Quite good? He goes to truck lots and jabbers nonsense. This guy doesn’t know shit about engines, transmissions, suspension, etc…..he posts snipits from other people’s information. Ask him some real tech questions, he’s as dumb as a post.
Need to bring back a manual transmission
Very few want them is why they stopped offering them.
Why
Where did you hear that lol@@bradh7472
Because I won't buy another new Ram without one. I'll be keeping my 2018 and then move to a higher class truck when the time comes
@@wygbuu The auto is a better transmission overall now days. They figured out the issues on the old automatics that always had issues.
I ordered my 2017 RAM 3500 SRW Limited with the high output Cummins and the Aisin transmission with 3.42 gears. I have 210K miles, mostly highway non-towing. I get 20-22 mpg on the highway with the 3.42 gears. Sure, it is not fast off the line, but that is not its purpose, nor my need. It tows my 14K pound Montana 5th wheel with ease, again slowly off the line. I keep it limited to 5th gear while towing. I keep the fuel filters and oil / oil filter changed every 15K. I've had zero problems and love my truck. It performs as intended. I don't understand the need for speed in these HD trucks. Thanks JB.
I have owned a 1999 2500 and 2005 3500 dually, both well over 200k miles when traded, still running and towing great. Both trucks were used for mostly towing. I now have a 2017 3500 dually Limited with HO 6.7 and aisin, geared 3:73. It gets 19-21 mpg, runs like a dream and tows with ease. I like my 2017 so much, really don't care to get a new one, especially when they are priced over $100k
My ram dually 2011 has a 68rfe & been hauling travel trailers with it for a living since 2012. It has over 1.1 million miles on it original tranny.
68RFE has been used since the 6.7 came out in 2007.5 model year. More speeds in the limited diesel RPM range are better. Helps keep the engine in the prime RPM while allowing increased road speed for that RPM compared to the 6 speed.
You have to remember the old 3 speed autos had 1:1 ratio in 3rd, that is now 7th gear on the Ford 10 speed.
68RFE is 1:1 in 4th and has two overdrives (5th & 6th).
Power line is 1:1 in 6th with two overdrives (7th & 8th) if I am not mistaken.
Why would you post this? Don’t post clickbait. It’s been documented that a standard output will be using a ZF8 powerline. And the heavy duty will retain and different transmission much like a 8 speed Aisin for power outputs.
Where is the proof they are switching to Zf8? I can't find anything. I'm wondering cause I'm looking at 2024 limited but don't wanna commit if they are finally swapping trans in the 25s. Currently in a 22 laramie and it's time for an upgrade.
@@colebecker8658 ZF released their new ZF8 powerline debut and prematurely showed the Heavy duty Ram. If you’re looking at a 2500 I’d most definitely wait until next year. Even if you’re looking at 3500 I’d wait.
@@Spoolingturbski yep I'm waiting. Thank you sir👍
Cummins going for a 7.1
It's called clock bait. It's how you make money on UA-cam 😂
Cummins is going nowhere, they are just streamlining of the transmission and going with the ZF for everything IMO. Bye Bye 68RFE and Aisin.. It just makes more sense to keep things simple.
Ram will not discontinued the Cummins engine.
Real power is when it’s loaded ! Drove ford wife has Chevy . I would rather pull with my Dodge it moves the load better less shifting in tow haul or drive mode . Don’t need to go fast just need to move the load !
Sorry man, I gotta disagree. I was a ram fan, had a 07.5, 15HO, 21HO, both tuned and I decided to try a Ford f350 HO because of the bigger cab and it's not even a comparison. The f350 ho will blow my tuned 21 ram ho out of the water while towing. I pull in CO and up the passes all the time pulling my 21k toy hauler. It's gonna take a lot to get me back into a ram.
@cnetate Apologies brother I have to disagree with that. I've pulled 26k plus and blew past every Ford I've come across towing. Perhaps it's the driver. I don't know. But it's seems it not an objective truth
You ain’t pulled with a 6.7 ford then. The rams are slugs compared to the ford.
The 23 HO 450 or 350 HO will absolutely destroy the Cummins HO!!! My 22 HO Ram couldn’t hold a candle to the 23 HO FORD.
You guys are arguing over towing faster than the other any of the big three will haul at whatever speed you want depending on grades and such but take off a inline six is not designed for a V8 is and its not even close in that type of race but slap that exhaust brake on my 22 ram SO and it will slow 14k doing down hill without touching the brakes my older ford i had was nothin like it but was an older model so couldnt compare to a 23+ its all the driver drive what you like it doesnt matter
That 8 speed is going to be a great setup. I think the 8 speed in the 1500’s is still the best option out there. Happy to see a variation come to 2500 plus.
I love my 68Rfe. Tows 14,000 lbs well and is a joy to drive empty. I also think on tests people showed 850 to the rear wheels which would be over 900 ft-lbs by the normal method. Tell me if I’m wrong.
2000 cummins 2nd gen single owner for life
Oh man, that 8 speed will blow the aisin away. ZF not only will be in rams, they will be in bigger commercial trucks the aisin couldn't
The ram and ZF partnership has been the best decision (behind Cummins) that ram has ever made. They are the ultimate transmission. This is great. Bye bye 68RFE and Aisin.
As is, the ZF is only capable of 1000 lb/ft torque. I don’t know about “blow away”.
The Aisin is a true medium duty transmission. The ZF will be comparable, not better than. You clearly never have owned an Aisin-equipped truck.
@@CornFed_3 own one now
@@thim8009, then I’m not sure why you’re complaining. The 6-speed Aisin is phenomenal.
Hearing this I wish I knew more about the used 2500 big horn I snagged, I told my wife that I want it to last 300,000 miles before I look at another vehicle.
My 2017 3500 dually has 407,000 miles on it and never had a major problem whatsoever and it’s towed heavy loads across the country all of its life. No reason why you shouldn’t get 300,000 out of it.
@@871jamie Tell her you meant kilometers. It's 300,000 KM for 186,411 MI. :)
@@871jamie That’s good you are a lucky man
Couldn't agree more about gearing. I tried getting 3.73's or 4.10's in my 2018 3500 4x4 single rear wheel with the Aisan and I was told it wasn't available. HUH! the customer couldn't get what they want. I love the truck except the gearing. The salesman said he called the factory rep and spoke to a female engineer and she said they won't put anything else in because this ratio is best for this truck. Nothing against female engineers, I don't like engineers period. They won't listen to anyone with field experience, "the numbers don't lie they say" maybe not, but the numbers aren't pulling a load up Loveland Pass either! Sorry for the rant. Enjoyed your video.
Simple research would have shown you that only 3.42s were your option, unless you went with a dually to get the optional 4.10s. I love when people try to find some way to get a configuration when it’s simply not available from the factory. Good thing there’s plenty of aftermarket gearing options for 2018 trucks.
You got it backwards. It should be Cummins is killing off Dodge. If Cummins wern't in Dodge trucks nobody would by them.🍻
Dodge doesn't build trucks
Bring back an eight speed manual transmission
Ok, the end clip was hilarious! I wonder what will happen to exhaust braking effectiveness with the extra gears, Ram is the leader in exhaust braking. Thanks for the great (click bait) video!
I would love for you to ask for the 6 speed manual transmission or maybe even a 10 speed manual.
I loved the ZF in my 1500. Makes my current 68RFE feel like a dinosaur. Not sure if a new transmission option will make it worth paying current prices for a new truck though…
I would be shocked in RAM raised the 2500 GVWR, small businesses dont want to get DOT numbers! I'm guessing ZF has a higher torque capacity powerline, and has been waiting on it for a while. That seeds them a fair amount of work for their new SC production facility.
Ty for sharing ... well I got my popcorn ready just waitin to see what they pop out with
We use the zf trans in mass transit in busses matched with the cummins works for us maybe thats were there going with this
Everyone who talks about this forgets the current Aisin Transmission is not rated for 1000 lb-ft by Aisin, it's rated 850 or 900 I believe and yet it has basically zero reliability problems with 1075 lb-ft. Ram will have no problem using the ZF Powerline rated for 1000 lb-ft with the high output Cummins. Of course whether they really do it remains to be seen. Commercial and medium/heavy duty transmissions are always rated conservatively for HP and torque so they can handle heavy weights and high or continuous duty cycles.
And yes the title is click bait, but good video anyway.
The torque numbers come from the use in a truck that’s heavier than the RAM HD. Both Aisin and ZF have done this. With the lighter weight of the RAM HD, the torque numbers go UP.
@@DarkHorse08 Exactly! As weight ratings go down, transmission torque ratings go up, as weight goes up torque ratings go down. Both torque and weight break transmissions so the ratings are a balance.
@@BruuHaHa Yep. The ZF spec sheet in all of these videos are advertised beside Class 5 and up trucks with Class 5 weighing 16,001 to 19,500 pounds. RAM HD is a Class 2A weighing 6,001-8,500 pounds. That’s over double in weight difference. If I had to guess, the ZF would be rated at about 1500+ under a Class 2A truck.
Agree, one engine makes the supply chain easier and parts supply on hand less intensive.
I have a single rear wheel high output Cummins with as69 RC transmission and I have 3.42 gears in the pickup truck from the factory. I also believe that the as69rc, but the 68 rfe can trace its roots all the way back to the old muscle car transmission.
Matter of fact, a lot of the parts will interchange as far as the supporting pieces.
I was wondering why my pickup refused to put down the power through first gear but now I know I can just manually shift her up to second and mash on the throttle. I still got the factory truck even if it's a 2025 beat cuz they say around 1200 ft lb of torque and I'm making around $1,650 because of all the bank's products on my vehicle and a tune. And you can't tune the AS69 RC transmission either to increase line pressures, but you don't really have to.
There's actually a company that will rebuild it with completely forged internals. So when you want to go compound turbos and make around 2,500 foot pounds of torque where you don't have to worry about egts on a path pulling as heavy as you want as it'll just flow so much air. But the transmission will get ripped apart after 1600 ft lb of torque if you're not careful, but that's way better than the 68 rfe cuz that thing's only supposed to be able to take like 600 foot pounds of torque. So it's already out of the gate 200 ft lb of torque behind the low output.
But I kind of like the primitive nature of the '69 RC. It just makes you feel like you're driving a diesel truck
I have 3.42 and 68RFE and don’t like the hole shot. I have always planned to switch the gearing as I have had regeared trucks in the past and loved the results.
Thank you for your research into the difference between the transmission options on the Ram trucks; much appreciated. I have owned 2 HO Cummins/Aisen combos and lived the transmission...seems happiest when pulling a load!
According to the ZF Powerline data …it doesn’t meet Cummins torque numbers. The ZF also has other issues. All the electronics are enclosed inside the unit…..having to drop the transmission for anything even for something small. Aisin is till king.
The ZF is bullet proof, I'd like to hear about these "other issues". Another ass talker.
Good video and I’m glad they are going to one diesel . I heard Ram doesn’t exceed the 10,000 weight deal because of tax/registration costs that come along with it in certain states. Not sure if that’s true….
I put 4.10s in my 2018 regular cab 2500 Cummins..... man what a difference.
thank you! Its so nice to hear from someone who understands transmissions and gearing in this day and age!!!! where few people understand what you and I understand! thank you much
Omg people, kind of click bate, but it's UA-cam. It's interesting
Thanks
They need to change the short truck bed. A little bit longer
Buy a long bed ya puzz
Keeping Aisin around wouldn’t make any sense since the power line is a medium duty trans so it works in all applications. Hopefully it’s not crude in its operation like the aisin.
Dump the SO and 68. Add the 8 speed. Cummins doesn’t need more gears than that. Coming from a guy who has a SO and 68.
Can't wait until the Cummins Gas , Multi-Fuel Engine !! 😉👍🏻
I just bought a 23 HO Reg cab with the Aisin... It does some odd shifts unloaded sometimes but It doesnt effect drivablity i just let it do its thing. I like it so far.
Good video. Ram will not bring their a game, because they never do. Just like all the other dodges, the engine will outlast the truck. The truck will fall apart around the engine.
Bahahaha!! I love the "HA!! GOTTEEM!" Usually preceded by "deez nuts," but hey, I get it!!
Auto manufacturers have completely lost touch with consumers, and continue to throw over priced garbage at us.
Ford 10r140 is best transmission on the market if your looking to tow heavy.
Great video JB, but even as a long tolime subscriber, and I say this with love... even I thought that was somewhat clickbait. A better title would've been something like Major Changes Coming to the Rams in '25". Enough of that.
I 100% that Ram needs to up the GVWR on the 2500s. I honestly believe that Stantlis is going to phase out their HDs in the near future. European countries don't care about HD trucks because they are too big. I hope I'm wrong.
Properly said.
HD trucks aren’t going anywhere, especially here in the states 🙄
@@CornFed_3 I agree with you. We love our HD trucks. I just don't see Stalantis putting in a ton of work to keep the HDs in the competition. One reason why I think this is because in Europe, the most common large pickup trucks for consumers is basically our midside truck here in the US. Not saying that the bigger trucks aren't over there, because I'm sure they are. I personally just don't think that they are as popular over there verses here. As for Ford and Chevy, yeah, it'll take something like the government to pry the HDs from Ford and Chevy. Again, this is much so my personal opinion. If I'm wrong and you can prove it, I'm willing to listen. 🙂
@@revgordon91, they’ll never disappear here in the states because the market needs trucks of all sizes, especially HDs. Europe doesn’t even matter in the grand scheme of things. They have a shitty way of doing things over there and the truck market is irrelevant compared to here. And the government has zero say in what a company does with its product. Separation matters in that regard.
@@CornFed_3 Yep, I agree.
Question is will the refresh include other things like say go back to solid lifter? Put some real engineering into the def systems? Time will tell.
Good information 👍
Damn bro..resorting to clickbait? Lame
I hope they keep the column shifter
I’m interested to see what they do.
6:24 That ZF spec sheet is REALLY throwing so many people off. Those torque numbers are for a higher class (heavier) truck. With the ZF behind the lighter weight of the RAM HD, the torque numbers go up. RAM HD is a class 2A truck (6,001-8,500 pounds). Class 5 (as seen on the right side of the spec sheet) is 16,001-19,500 pounds.
Enjoy your content! Any word on a larger Gas HD Option 426 hemi??
Good info sir!
They keep the GVWR at 10k for insurance reasons.. in some states anything over 10k needs to be registered and insured commercially
The click bait-ish thumbnails and titles lately are getting annoying. Been a fan of the channel since the beginning, not a good look man.
Same. Don’t like it.
Agree
Yep agree!
Man don't scare me like that!!! I was so shocked reading your title. Glad they're not fully discontinuing the 6.7. 😂
If you were going to order a 24 before the old setups were gone would you get a 68rfe or Aisin in a 3500?
To me, it's a no brainer as I use a 3500 dually for towing heavy - AISIN. It'll take 3 model years before I have any comfort in the Powerline. I'm excited for the added gears and ratios for better economy, but durability has to be proven and the AISIN is.
Yeah, that is my biggest worry right now is that the new motor and trans being the first year you know it’s going to have kinks… first model years always do. Crossing my fingers they have big discounts this summer on end of year 2024 orders to move the old model.
I wish ram would bring back a manual option
You did a verbage error! You should have used "a" Cummins instead of "the" Cummins.
The ZF Powerline is a no brainer! I have been wanting one ever since my wife elected not to get the manual with her '18 Ram 2500 6.7L.
Any of the 6 cylinder Cummins engines have excessive power! The 4 cylinder Cummins with a ZF transmission would be the ultimate for many Ram pickup owners. Power with economy! I really like the ZF transmission in my '23 Jeep JLU, '20 Dodge Durango, and my '16 Ram 1500 3.0L. When the Ecodiesel gives up the ghost, a Cummins 4BT tier 4 engine will live in it's place. I already checked on the process to have it smog legal here in California.
Agreed. A 4bt Cummins in a Ram 1500 would run circles around the 3.0 Duramax and even the Recalldiesel (Ecodiesel).
Bring back the 12 valve and manual transmission.
It's easy to upgrade the 68rf.
Regarding power......got enough 4 me..... and we tow every day.
As long as we can delete the B I don't care....lol
10k GVWR keeps you out of the BIG taxes...
Also, when not towing and used for business, a DOT number is NOT needed (10001+ GCWR needs it)
In fact, GM offers a 9990GVWR rating on the 2500's for fleet buyers to skirt this very thing.
Makes sense for manufacturing to drop some power train options. And the competition has been that way for years. Allison made claims for years about 6 speeds would do everything in the trucking industry. But it was just more of bandwagon to go to 10 since it was the standard. And if ram was to drop Cummins they could go in house to the Iveco 6.7 NEF which is based off the Cummins . Just would have to be tweaked for road use
Offer the zf auto8spd and a zf manual.... with about 500hp, and 1500lbft TQ. Might as well make a splash. The numbers are inevitable. So if you are gonna make that big of a change make it to the front of the pack
Well, looks like I will be getting a new Truck in 2025. I would prefer the HO in a 2500 . I bought the 2022 Laramie with SO. And no like for the click bait.
Well in my opinion they should go with Allison
JB, hey man great discussion as always! Just one thing - PLEASE don't wish away the last real option for a true 3/4 Ton Class 2B Truck just to brag BS payloads against Ford, and now GM! Until the DOT raises their allowable GVWR for Class 2B, those of us with business use diesel trucks are very grateful to Ram for staying true to the truck class regulations. Want a Ford F250 Diesel 4WD for business use, but don't want to deal with CDL everyday, every trip!? Well - too bad, they are all light duty Class 3 now! GM says we can special order a 2500 Crew 4WD 6.6L Duramax with a Class 2B GVWR of 10k lbs., but at a premium and with a lengthy delay. It's all just Marketing Hype BS to say "Look at us, we have the highest payload!" It's wrong! It should be made more public that changing the sticker didn't make the truck more capable, it just made it a different DOT class and screwed the business owner out of a quality truck class without a massive amount of daily paperwork and CDL headaches that weren't necessary... I'm sorry, but this is one time when it's really not healthy competition amongst the Big 3 Truck brands, and instead it has hurt the industry. With that being said - If you and others are really hung up on changing GVWR to show higher payloads on heavier trucks, then by all means - lobby the heck out of the Dept. of Transportation to raise the 3/4 Ton Class 2B category Federally to a number like 10,800 lbs. or 11,300 lbs. to match these Fords and GMs and create a level playing field that allows for fair comparison amongst business owned trucks that don't require CDL for daily use! Your voice and platform can make a difference. Let's educate people on why these ratings are changing at other manufacturers and how it actually impacts the legal use of these trucks. Don't smack an engineer at Ram for being a legal holdout... shake their hand and tell them "Thank you!" Cheers! - Mark
Why would they? Don’t they know they are only the crate that Cummins uses to ship their engines in?
Cummins maybe a good thing if it's diesel all the pickup truck with diesel have problems with the gas or oil.
They are going with the ZF for the new diesels. No need for Aisin or the clunck box of the 68
I seen that too. I'm curious how they gonna handle the torque problem. The ZF is only rated for 1,000 foot pounds.
@@omegaking79 I’m sure will be some tweaks made to it and they up the numbers to handle more. I’m sure for now it was intentionally posted at only 1000 for marketing reasons to leave the competition Confused of what is actually coming to production.
I've never driven a Aisen transmission truck, but I've read that they're the more clunking transmission. I have owned a 2016 and a 2018 SO Cummins with the 68RFE that I thought did pretty well loaded or unloaded.🤷
Ram is not killing off the Cummings.
I always enjoy your videos, very informative...I drive a 2022 RAM 2wd with the Hemi eTorq 5.7 and a 3.92 (?) rear-end and it tows great, I have no need for a HD truck but if I did I think I would lean towards Ford F450....have multiple buddies that drive Fords and they appear the overall better truck mile 0-100k
Allison is the answer
Is the 392 Hemi still going to be available?
I prefer aisan transmission because better than others. I'm transporter every day dealing with heavy trucks and suvs aison transmission better than ford because let's check small example on ramp loaded 14500bs and move aison first 1 2 3 speed better than ford it's not losing power because we're driving every day but for when gets loaded on straight or gets speed no way can't stop it. Ford like BMW but RAM like working car every day pay back. Believe me if day fix egr, dpf issues, and they'll put manual dpf regeneration. Ram will be number one. For me still number one I don't know your choice. But
Nobody can kill aison transmission with Ram 3500 4500 or 5500.
Thank you
I believe they will have a zf 8 speed for 2025 it is also used in garbage trucks and lighter duty semi trucks
ZF builds nice smooth shifting transmissions and it will blow away the 68rfe , and be better than asin
More power !!! HMM
I ordered a 2024 Ram 2500 Crew Cab 4X4 6’4” BOX March, 25 and it got built April, 25. When will I get it?
Ram has a site that can be used to track the progress of your build. Idk why you’d ask that here. It could be anywhere from a month to 6 months. It just depends on how you have it optioned.
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@@CodyTheBmxMan the bed liner is applied off site , you're waiting on them and the shippers now . Give it a couple more weeks .
It has been a couple weeks now
@@CodyTheBmxMan It all depends on how far behind the bed liner people are , IF , they even have your truck yet . One of the joys of special ordering a vehicle the way that you want it , is you get to deal with their schedule .
Ram - this is FIAT
Possibly! Possibly!
I believe the zf powerline is the same transmission in the peterbilt medium duty trucks. If so, that trans is garbage!!!!
I work for a peterbilt dealership and manage a fleet of about 300 trucks. Maybe 40 of those are medium duty with the zf transmission, we have replaced 4 transmissions on trucks with as little as 1,500 miles. All were under 10K miles, 10% failure rate........ this trans is worse than the 68rfe.
I don't think they can sell customers a 1075 torque engine with a 1000 torque trans. But I'm usually skeptical. I would look at the 875 torque engine with a 1000 torque 8 speed torque converter trans.
If they produced a bare bones,rubber floor mat,roll up windows,standard transmission work truck for the real truck user they couldn’t keep them in stock! What is available now is what I call Sissy trucks.90% of the people who own them couldn’t drive a stick if their lives depended on it!
Yes, keep holding onto the past. Automatics are so much better then years ago. God willing I’ll never see another manual in my lifetime.
Closest you can get is the 'poverty package' aka tradesman. Get a little tiny 5" screen to connect your bluemouth too 😂
The Aisin (made in Japan ) will out last any German made ZF crap any day. Look at ALL German built cars, they just barely make it pass the 50,000 warranty. I seen great ZF products but I also know Japan prides themselves with quality to last not always comfort.
Definitely clickbait lol.
My two cents is having two versions of the diesel is just a way to squeeze more money out of the customers. I know some people will argue until they are blue in the face that the power difference makes a difference but I’m not one of them. With all that extra power just comes extra torque management.
Also about the gearing, again the 8 and 10 speeds are nice but I think they are about the limit for improvements and they are nowhere near the jump in performance as going from a 4 speed to a 6 speed was.
Add the Cummins 6.7 gasser to the line up.
If they are getting rid of the Cummins, then Ram is probably developing their own engine.
They are ditching the aisin and the 68rfe and going with a 8 speed ZF like they have in everything else
This is clickbait, and yes the AISN is gone, old news buddy!!! They will only have the ZF transmission!!!
they did the same with the 5.9 back 2003/ 2004. When you have a newer higher output introduced eventually it takes over.
No it’s nothing new that I haven’t heard,good one JB😅
Ram needs to go 8 speed transmission 10 speed is too much but one thing ram really needs to do is put on 20 inch wheels that 17 inch wheels that’s from the 80s, 2024 now I can only imagine the look of a 20th wheel lot better
Well at least Ram fixed 1 of its problems
Longer bed for the mega cab or update the cab
The future with the heavy duty trucks is going to be an electric axles with a small diesel engine to run a generator. Kind of like a diesel electric locomotive I believe it's Dana that already has their axles. Formulated where the central shaft that runs through the electric motor is your axle shafts and then your diesel engine. You basically start it and you forget it. It'll always stay at like a thousand or $1,500 RPM. Just enough to power the generator and your gas pedal just regulates the power to the axles and so you're talking massive amounts of torque. And no transfer case and no transmission. The only thing that would need to be serviced would be basically the engine oil. Perhaps a small battery pack which would be good for like job sites and stuff. But it's not really meant to power the truck so much as it is just to clean up the energy so you're not having spikes and drops like the generator will generally put out so the battery will act like it does just for even your vehicle when it's running. It just makes the energy nice and clean so the computer doesn't throw a fit😅
They are bringing in the 8 speed.same as the half tons.
They need to build a truck peaple can afford there getting to high price 😊
Zf has a commercial 8sp out for a while. It handles way more than either of these do. They'll probably get the 8sp from 2500 to 5500. The 8sp is in big things in traffic. What better way to test them than to run the piss out of them in a garbage truck.
Got em'
The glasses look good