2025 RAM 3.0L I6 Hurricane VS RAM 5.7L V8 HEMI MPG And Performance Test! Is The New Engine Better?
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- Here is a comparison between a 2025 RAM 3.0L I6 twin turbo Hurricane and 2024 RAM 5.7L naturally aspirated V8 HEMI! || Like || Subscribe || Share || #ram
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There’s been plenty of innovation to N/A engines. The problem here isn’t the manufacturers. It’s the EPA. a smaller turbo charged engine consuming the same or slightly better MPG is going to score better on the emissions tests. This is why ESS is a thing even on Ferrari now.
Nailed it right there. Most vehicles with former low stress V8s will outlast turbo V6s by a wide margin, and the fuel economy is rated right at that same V8 for normal driving or even worse when pulling cargo/towing. The emissions are what are driving cylinder reduction in engine options. Manufacturers were buying carbon credits prior to adopting turbocharged engines, but that's going away too.
@@C-M-E That all depends on how the engine is built. A turbo gas engine built with nodular iron cylinder liners, forged pistons, forged rods, forged crankshaft, beefy crank bearings and bearing caps... that engine can easily match the longevity of an engine like the 5.7 Hemi.
Fax
Doesn’t equal sales. They can keep them.
I really like the I6 engines. Boosted I6 engines have always had a special place in my heart from the 2JZ to the diesel Cummins.
I just wish they kept the Hemi as an option or something
Just can't trust any engine from Stellantis. It needs time to prove itself for truck duty. Grand Wagoneer likely rarely performs towing or hauling more than a few people.
@@kennetho5393 We have a customer with a Grand Wagoneer at a detail shop, and she’s been loving it so far. It hasn’t been long enough for me to comment on reliability just yet. I’m hoping for the best though
@@lilman227 I'm sure it's likable, just not feeling it for going the distance. That and I bet those turbos are expensive to replace.
@@kennetho5393 It has to tow and haul its chassis. That shit is obnoxiously heavy, 6,400lbs. Add a few obese children and that's more than enough load on the engine for it to have proven itself.
The 5.7 Hemi could have continued on but they really blew it when they decided to kick the can down the road and not modernize the 5.7 Hemi for the 2019 model year. They could have easily updated it with direct injection, a little more compression, and a revised cam to improve emissions and fuel efficiency. Look at GM, they're still making pushrod 16 valve V8's and announced that they are developing the next gen V8 for their trucks. I don't see why FCA/Stellantis couldn't have done the same.
The innovation I want to see from manufacturers is a modern Diesel engine that won’t destroy itself with EGR and other emissions equipment.
The EcoDiesel had enough noise to make me happy, it can easily get 25mpg combined in the real world. The problem is all the issues the engine has
I am a diesel fan . I had a 2016 eco and now have a 2020. Right now my EGR is stuck closed and am waiting for parts . I think the mileage is a bit less but part of me would like to leave the EGR stuck . I do believe the gen 3 solved a lot of issues and I would like to own this truck for a long time. Someone should have bought BMW’s inline 6 diesel as it was a great engine.
@@Marvin-fn7ks at 88,000 miles, the intake manifold on my 2016 EcoDiesel got clogged with wet soot and Ram refused to cover the repairs under the class action lawsuit settlement extended warranty. I believe Diesel is superior to gasoline, it’s a tragedy that the American government hates them
@@Marvin-fn7ks at 88,000 miles, the intake manifold on my 2016 EcoDiesel got clogged with wet soot and Ram refused to cover the repairs under the class action lawsuit settlement extended warranty. I believe Diesel is superior to gasoline, it’s a tragedy that the American government hates them
Duramax 3.0. I love mine and with a 2 inch lift (Trailboss model) with all terrain tires I get 26 to 27 regularly. Best ever is 31 mpg. 22 in City all day long. Others without factory lift get 30 + regularly. So far no emission issues but they are reported from time to time. Can you imagine small displacement with diesels in cars the kind of mileage we could get? EVs are a joke. America - the Land of the Stupid!
So what I’m hearing is…. Abolish the three letter agencies
Hemi all day long!
The inline 6 is a hemi.
@@blackericdenice no it's not
@@blackericdenice🤣🙄😳😳😳😳😳
@@Deke1 Yes it is. It has a hemispherical combustion chamber. They don't call it that but it is. As a matter of fact, the 3.6 v6 is also a hemi.
Slap a tuned twin turbo set up on the hemi and the power shoots up . Tune it for fuel efficiency and it still has more power. Ya it may cost more in the end for what you’d be paying but in the end a N/A Hemi is leagues ahead for easily adding more power and Trucks are not for commuting. They are intended for work. That’s why this is happening to us . We are not using them for work and the industry has realized that. I still say the inline six will wear out sooner than a V8 .
I have a 2021 RAM Longhorn Limited with the 5.7 liter HEMI eTorque. I love the truck. Great review, young man.
First time watching ur vid and I don’t regret it at all, ur entertaining, funny, love ur way of thinking and comments about things, def gonna have to subscribe fss
I’ll take that hemi all day over the inline 6
Hahaha. Ok boomer.
Agreed ... Just really wish they offered the OG w/o auto start / stop or E-torque
Not a chance - and I have the Hemi now.
@@RotaxXS... not a smart comment..
@@Blitzkrieg.u812 how so?
Great comparison! Thank you for investing in high tech equipment. It makes your videos better!
My 04 Ram 1500 5.7 gets 16.3 mpg in the winter and up to 18 mpg in summer it has 3.91 anti spin differential 2100 rpm at 75 mph
What the hell is an "anti spin differential"?
My Hemi 0-60 was 5 seconds on the money with 35” tires. Did the work in my driveway to accomplish it. I’ve got an HO Cummins I’m tinkering with now, I’m really happy they are making this inline 6 half ton. Dodge had inline 6 gas engines for a long time and were very reliable
I’m not sure I would equate the turbo 6 as being ‘woke’. Soulless, yes, but not woke. For the record, I’d also have the Hemi by choice.
It's definitely Woke. Neutered and woke. Shmdh
You do an awesome job on these reviews!!! Thanks!👍👏🏻😊
Great video, loads of information !!
Thanks!
Thank you very useful test.
Nice review.
Part of it is the sound, you don't buy hellcat to hear a v6 or a truck to hear a annoying exhaust. We want it for the rumble and the growl of 8 cylinders. Pretty soon all cars gonna be sounding like a dodge caravan lol
Great review! I wonder what aftermarket muffler would sound good on the hurricane??? On my Hemi I went with a Flowmaster 40 and it sounds great even though I would like it a little bit louder lol
I enjoy the 3.0L inline turbo 6 cylinder in my S60 T6 very much. It's an "older tech" turbo making only 100HP/L from a less sophisticated turbo and fuel system (port injected), but it's an absolute pleasure to drive. Near turbine smooth, power all over the RPM range, no vibration or noise. I would be the type who would probably prefer the inline 6, especially living at 7400ft elevation. The power advantages at high elevation are startling. I get 0-60 times up here that aren't far off what these do near sea-level.
I moved from BMW to Volvo to live in a better area. Those I6 turbo S60’s were awesome. I had a chance to rip on an S60 Polestar. I’d take it over a 340i in a heartbeat back then. Special!
aye factory port injection is better for mods anyway
People will keep leasing these, it's a great design with the exception of it not having port injection.
Just buy a 2500 and get the 6.4 which is a much better build vs the 5.7 and doesn't get all the EPA bs regulations the 1500 are subjected to.
The rub with a 2500 Hemi is the 15 mpg highway and 12 mpg city from the extra ~1000 lb curb weight and heavy E-rated tires. I had a 2003 Ram 2500 Hemi for 16 years, and it was pristine because I never wanted to deal with its poor fuel economy.
I know you live in Salt Lake "I believe." Your observation on altitude is a key imho. I live in MT at 4500 feet. The turbo advantage in the mountains would be nice over my Hemi's but...
Great review
Thanks for watching!
@@JB_WhoWork 👍
Nice side by side comparison bro!
Thanks bro!
Gearing is very important I'd like to see the engines compared with equal gear ratios. That 0 to60 would be very close . My brother and I both have F350s with 7.3 engines. The difference is Gearing I have 4.30 vs. his 3.55s. My truck has better 0 to 60 times , it tows more and has more payload. My brother's truck does get better mpgs though not as much as you would think, though he does have a heavy foot perhaps why.
My 2019 RAM has a Borla ATAK on it. She loud, and I'm going to miss the shit out of that sound when I do eventually get another truck. I've been super happy with this truck, so I plan on getting another RAM. That RHO might be in my future if this HO engine proves to be reliable. I'm in no hurry.
I want a ram too
I have the ATAK on my 2023 Ram and I love it.. that sound is masculine, lol!
Hoo wee, hot damn. Redneck.
dont hold your breathe on the I6 the chances its gonna be reliable are slim at best they just did a test run with them on the drag strip in a challenger and they had to replace the engine in less than 20 minutes
I just deleted my muffler and it sounds great with the remaining resonators
Great video
That V6 vacuum cleaner is definitely a quicker picker upper but I’lol keep my hemi
Super nice comparison between these two one is a 3.0 hurricane Inline 6 which is 6 inches long and the outgoing 5.7 Hemi
Thanks bro!
The noise level was interesting, I just happened to check that on my 2023 Gladiator Rubicon this morning. With the meter (phone app) in a mount attached to the dash, at 70 mph the reading was 70db. I feel like that's a damn good number for a Jeep.
I have the same truck as you. I have slightly more noise because I have the manual which is a noisy gearbox but yes, the secret to them being this quiet is the magic of the Falken Wildpeak AT3s
My favorite part is when he asked when are naturally aspirated engines getting their next generation? I mean, literally, he's driving the next-generation aspirated engine. Yeah, the V6 isn't as loud or doesn't sound as good; however, it provides as much power and much more efficiently. That's the entire reason for it
Manufacturers drooling to replace these over boosted small engines in 5 to 7 years at buyer's cost!
What was with the 0-60 on the SST? Did it spin and downshift and then upshift?
I can’t wait to see the RHO review
I would choose the I6 over the new four bangers that Toyota is putting in all their trucks 😂
Hemi, true and tested, this new engine, good luck. Sane mileage.
Thanks!
Thanks brother!
I have a 2020 RAM 1500 Classic Warlock Edition with Hemi and 3.92 gears, the only mod I did was a full K&N filter and I love the MDS because at 74mph I'm getting 29 MPG. I love the launch with those gears and I leave the Tow/Haul mode all the time because with braking it gears down and slows me down quicker. I don't have to worry about range either with a 32 gallon tank.
The in-line 6 is one of the best most reliable engines ever built by every manufacturer, they should have never stopped making them in the first place
Was the standard engine in about all manufacturers from flat heads on up until the mid 70's!
thanx for th comparison I have an old 2003 ram with 4.7 still running and a 21 challenger with 392 there is no replacement for v8 sound and feel funny thing the 392 gets better mileage than the 4.7 unless I'm gettin on it which is most of the time 😂 i will soon purchase another ram was wondering about the inline 6 and feul mileage if it's compatible will go with another v8 probably my last truck I keep things for along time and I'm pushing 60 I'll leave the ev for the youngsters
Mercedes been running a I6 turbo for 50yrs. Smooth & quiet. Most European cars are. 1 to 2.5L turbo or small diesel.
Excellent review mate. I like inline 6 cylinder engines. They are inherently smoother by design but a 3 liter turbo charged one worries me for the Long run. I can't see how they will be more durable and long lasting given the tasks trucks are asked to do.
Cheers 🇨🇦
The engine has a cast aluminum block, cross-bolted steel main bearing caps, a forged steel crankshaft, and forged steel connecting rods. The block is the only thing that might be the weak link strength wise..
I love that they are down to 12k American workers and already fired all the engineers that made this new truck! Supporting them is like saying I love Joe Biden 💀
I noticed the Hemi has the E-Torque option, it doesn't add much but I wouldn't be surprised if it contributed to the wheel spin. Wonder how much better it would have been in the 0-60 with a grippier tire.
My 2022 Ram 1500 with 5.7 etorgue, 3.92 rear is getting 20+ mpg locally driving. I disable the ESS and overide the MDS system. So all of the cylinders are always engaged.
Put a 3" full open exhaust. That boosted L6 will sound great
25 psi oil pressure on Hurricane at 65 mph and 1800 rpm. Sheeesh!
3:21 rear end killing that Hemi’s 0-60
Based off some of my previous runs, the 3.92 actually may hurt it with the extra gears… hopefully my buddy Matthew Anderson will explain this 👀
@@JB_WhoWork no chance I've owned and driven both plenty I can't stand the 3.21 gears but it's all I could find when I was used truck shopping. It was impossible to find the right truck with 3.92s. Ironically I bought the best used truck I could find because there was no chance of ever getting a 5th gen regular cab short box with a good engine lol. The 3.21 works at 80mph on flat ground 7th gear with 3.21 is almost the same as 8th with 3.92.
@@JB_WhoWorkthat’s interesting for sure. Especially just going to 60mph. Must just be a “seat of the pants” feeling with the 3:92 then if that’s all true.
@@JT-ko3rvit’s very possible. I’d have to look up the gear ratios of the transmission and then figure out the tire height but if the 3.21 say hits 60 mph in 2nd gear and the 3.92 has to shift to 3rd then I would have little doubt the 3.21 would be quicker to 60 mph.
If they both hit 60 mph in the same gear then sure, the 3.92 is probably quicker.
For that hemi I and how big and heavy the truck is 4:10s would be better just my opinion
Crazy that the Hemi is within .2 0-30 but almost a second and a half slower to 60🤯
I've got a 21 RAM Rebel with the 5.7 eTorque and my salesman has been discussing the upcoming RHO, feels odd to be coming off a V8 to a I6 with 540 HP but I guess the Hurricane HO variant still gets the job done.
Bro please get your hands on 1500 with the GT package. I’d like to hear the difference between the 2024 hemi with GT package vs the 2025 inline 6 with GT package
I'd be curious to see what kind of temps the hurricane would be showing if you were working the truck hard (towing) and getting some heat soak with the turbos
I’m happy with 5.7 2019
Owned a half dozen Ram trucks and loved everyone of them. Thought I would try a Ford EcoBoost and love it also. I do miss the sound of the Ram 5.7 though.🙄
honestly this is no different then what happened with diesels ...
p.s. I like the Hurricane, it's a neat option but once you drive that actual non auto start / stop, no MDS good ole V8 grunt you forget about MPG or WHP
V8 grunt 😂😂😂😂
IF I were to buy a new Ram 1500? Especially 4x4, i would go with a Hemi, with the automatic and 3:55 gears. In any of the trim levels. I’m interested in the times, I’ve never driven a late Ram, but have driven a Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6 now for a few years. With the timing equipment hooked up I was able to get a 0-60 time of 6.6, with 1/8 mile in 8.2@97 mph. seconds! The only other truck I’ve ran with timing equipment was a sweet 1996 Chevy C1500 short bed reg cab, with 5.7 Vortec 5 speed with 3:42 gears and G80 auto lock. That got me a decent 0-60 of 6.2, 1/8 mile at 7.9@99mph. The biggest difference between these two was efficiency, the late model Colorado get 17-25 mpg, while the V8 C1500 Silverado only got 14-20.
29psi of oil pressure? While driving?
@JB Reviews
I'm interested in getting the Laramie Dually for my business
Do you think that would be a good idea to reach for a Laramie dually, or would it be a better idea just to get a 3500 Ram?
I'll be towing a aluminum flatbed trailer for my business
Gooseneck trailer? How much weight do you think you'll be towing max? High altitude? Low altitude? Are you stuck on RAM or are you open to Chevy/Ford?
Hemi have a big camshaft lubrification design flaw. And I got the experience too, as many other around 200k kilometers (start with continuously increase of fuel consumption).
That's why I proposed making a solar shingle, but again what would happen ??? If your not using oil & steel thing get hidden ???
I just got a 2025, I had two hemi's prior and while I do miss the sound the Hurricane is a nice change. I will say The stop start does not activate hardly at all on the hurricane.
OEM engine has recently been all about emissions and reliablity during Fed mandated
emission warranty.
What exactly is it you think they could do to both improve efficiency and increase power in a NA engine design? Turbocharging is the natural evolution of innovation in modern engine design. Yes it adds another level of complexity but that is the price you pay. Time will tell if the reliability is on par with the HEMI. Wheel-spin on the HEMI due to no turbo lag. No oil starvation on deactivated cylinders, why would you think that deactivation of the cylinder would cause oil starvation on the cylinder walls? Fuel consumption will be pretty similar, they have got the HEMI so well tuned that it really does pretty good. My Limited averages about 20MPG in mixed driving. Not gonna run to trade in my HEMI but I am also not totally afraid of the Hurricane even though it is not yet proven.
Towing comparison next please!
+1 and let's see mpg. The i6 = premium and hemi 87 octane so mpg = $/mile.
A cross plane V8 should be balanced. The vibrations you are feeling are probably due to the cylinder deactivation. The lifter issues are due to oil starvation from the design of the oil channels on the 3rd gen hemis. There are drain holes which don't allow the oil to reach certain components, and oiling issues at the underside of the engine. The cylinder de-activation just adds to the design issue. There is also wear due to dissimilar hardness steels in contact with each other.
The inline-6 just makes more sense for a truck. It's been proven time and again to be the best engine option within the Semi-Truck industry. The design of a truck allows it to make full use of the inline-6 design to create a large stroke and thus large torque. These trucks are not going to be winning at Laguna Seca, so there is no point in something like a V8 which compromises access to components and limits stroke.
Many of the differences between the inline 6 and hemi were due to the gearing. The slower acceleration and better than expected fuel economy in the Hemi. At the end of the day, no amount of engineering can overcome the physics of a 7k lbs brick.
I like and appreciate your views on what you like in a truck .
Having 3.55 gears in the V8 Ram might have helped it get a tenth or two closer to the TT6 Ram 0 to 60.
Thanks for a good truck comparison video where "infotainment" and "Apple Car Play" were not mention even once.
Is the new hurricane engine based on the old Slant 6?
Just went out two weeks ago and bought a new 2024 Rebel with the Hemi V8 before they are all gone...I don't want no 6cyl in my full sized truck I don't care how much power they put out...that V8 sound you can't replace period.
Engine design ideas behind V8 MDS and I6 turbo are similar: change volumetric
efficiency by driver and load demand. Most MDS systems have had valve train reliability issues, often so bad that drivers wanted their MDS systems to be hack delected. RAM
now trying something different, hopefully to stay away from expensive poor valve train reliability.
Hope they didn’t design the same cross cylinder coolant ports that Ford did in their Eco-Boost line. Lots of engines failing as a result. My daughter’s Explorer motor went just over 60K miles before it had to be replaced.
wow that 0-60 gap was shocking. Inline 6 twin turbo i guess Chrysler following Ford with turbo 6 cylinder. I hope to rent one of these from Enterprise for memorial day. I really enjoyed the Hemi i rented last time.
I will still take the hemi all day every day the hemi is more reliable
The HEMI had that awful penchant of eating camshafts if you let the engine idle for any amount of time longer than a few minutes, not exactly Toyota reliability. Making claims that one engine is more reliable than the other when the information simply isn’t yet available is more than a bit short-sighted.
Do you have data to support that claim? These are new and time will tell. I am willing to bet your comment won't age well. They wouldn't go all in like this and gamble the entire reputation of the 1500 ram if this engine was a problem child.
3:21 gears in the V8 improves economy but will make it slower off the line than the 3.55 geared V6 and also lower its real world towing capability
I've had a few Hemis, as well as some friends. The 5.7 MDS engine self immolates camshafts after 100k. It's about time they dumped Hemi for a better powertrain. Hope the hurricane pans out.
You should have installed the Hellcat oil pump in 5.7L when it was new..0 cam issues after that. It's the low oil pressure at idle that is the root cause..Hellcat part fixes it
You’re right, Hemi have a big camshaft lubrification design flaw
Unless you are a cop. How much do you have to idle?my hemi with 230000km with 1043 idle hours runs like a champ! I only run 89 octane though since day one and 0 issues
I would have preferred the old 4.0 I6 with an added turbo. I don’t know how I feel about a 3.0. I tow a 9,000 pound trailer, so I need the 3.92 rear.
Wish dodge would have used a aluminum block for the hemi and 4 cam variant.
Lighter engine, lower displacement, and turbo charged Hemi would have been what I wanted to see
@@JB_WhoWorka turbo on a hemi is like lipstick on a man
Idiot@@chadd587
4.6-5.2L Hemi with a Whipple would of been nice to see. Maybe add a 10-spd to the combo to satisfy EPA numbers..
@@JB_WhoWorklol sounds like you want a coyote
I kinda like the Hurricane. Way preferable to a TT V6 in every way.
That being said, just wait till the end of the year and they’ll be giving these thing away… Ram dealers are getting shafted by Stellantis…
The video is good, but maybe lay off the "w0ke" comments a bit?
Opting for a turbocharged inline six with more hp, acceleration, and gas mileage, isn't exactly "w0ke" in most people's books.
It is in mine.
@@roddycreswell8613 So you're actively choosing the engine with less power, slower acceleration, and worse gas mileage?
Why would you intentionally prefer the objectively worse product? And more importantly, why on earth would you call the better engine "w0ke", of all things?
@tizodd6 yep, the road isn't a race track and durability is why I choose a naturally aspirated V8. Less stress on the internals equals longer life.
@@roddycreswell8613 The longevity is based more on the engine build quality than the type of engine.
I could see you point though, if you plan to do a lot of heavy towing. But in that case, I'd say just get a diesel. For 99% of people out there though, most of their driving is just city stuff.
I still don't see what any of it has to do with being "w0ke" though.
@tizodd6 blah, blah, blah. My favorite gas engine is 1 barrel 300 straight 6. Acting like you know engines better than I know engines shows what kind of person you are, hateful and conceited. These 3 liter engines are near their mechanical limits. I've put over 400,000 miles on a 300 making 140 horse power. It's w0ke bs just like it was in the 80's when they said 6 cylinders made more horsepower than V8's. Put the same induction on the V8 and level the playing field then get back to me. I went through this w0ke bs I the 80's. Some Nascar teams in the 80's started using V6's. They stopped using them because they wouldn't make it through the race.
Ive got a 25 ram SST and he's right truck is to quite! all that power with no bark to go with it is just strange especially for a Ram...idk maybe in the near future they will come out with some good exhaust and CAI to breathe little louder.
Inline sixes always had a good track record in trucks, hope this one continues that trend
Great review JB! I agree they should have kept the Hemi for another year or two until the new in-line 6 is proven their sales are going to decrease as most Ram buyers will be skeptical of this new powertrain until it has proven itself.
Thanks, it seems like running a 3.55 would have been a sweet spot too for performance if they kept it for a couple more years 👍🏾
Hey idiot. 3.0 has been around for several years already.
What i find interesting is the oil pressure being in the mid 40's on the 5.7 compared mid to high 20's when cruising on the inline 6.
My 5.7 has mid 40 oil pressure untill its around 180° of higher then its mid 20s to low 20s
@@goated313 My Hemi's were always 30 the lowest and that was with 185,000 miles...Hot weather in traffic 30 was the lowest I noticed,usually 33 when hot.
I love the hemi though. I got a 1500 with 3.92 rear. I just fill her with 89 all the time and drive her hard, let the oil splash everywhere all the time and I don't have a single tick. She runs so clean and even does the farts in between shifts, sounds awesome!
@mypronouniswtf5559 when my foots on the gas it stays around 30. If I punch it hard it gets closer to 40
Time to piss off the hemi fan boys lol. I like this engine being the lower cost fleet option. Lower displacement boosted engines tend to have better torque profiles for doing heavy work. My concern is the complexity and durability of these engines.
Turbo engines have their own unique expenses for maintenance and repairs . Twin turbo sounds great until you have to pay to fix it. I like my 2020 Hemi v8 Truck, 395hp is plenty for normal daily things. So glad I didn't get that e torque starter crap on the front of the engine . I did get the 6 1/2 foot box. My truck gets 15-17mpg winter driving , 17-19.5 summer driving 25 miles on Expressway 75-80mph last 5 miles city driving 45 mph commuting to work. 0-60 mph time quick enough to suit me , Hemi v8 sound a 5000rpm a friggin symphony.
Is the Hemi tick going to be an option on this new powerplant? I know a lots of folks pay good money for that sound.
lol id rather have a tick than have a ricer 6 truck
direct engine dual over head cams different gearing etc etc etc. What are you talking about there has been innovation for years. What was the gas mileage in a mid 90s truck?
Those technologies have been around forever. They are just not forced by the EPA to use them.
All that time and wasted energy to be slightly faster and barely more fuel efficient than the NA V8 originally designed over 2 decades ago….. marvelous work there Stellantis 🤦🏼♂️
They are using technology to make them smaller and more powerful with special anti friction coatings and direct injection piston design along with more efficient turbochargers and few other systems but it's also making them less reliable in some ways and mostly better on gas mileage. People just don't see that but I do having to fix this new technology. Also change makes people want to buy because it's new and different not necessarily better.
More hp and torque in the i6 and a better rear end gear ratio. So there's no surprise the hemi 0 to 60 was slower. I don't what the weight diffrences are but i know for sure the torque converter are different.
Interesting..but I would hard pressed to purchase a first-year model
same thought but...i purchased a 94 ram...450k miles 09 ram 250k miles and a 19 ram 150k miles ...all 3 not one problem with the engine or trans ...94 popped a rear end 09 replaced everything that had the words heating and AC and the 19 isnt broke in yet
Ram neutered there truck !
The oil pressure on that I6 was a little concerning. Only 20 some psi at 2k rpms? Seems awfully low...
If this inline was N/A with bigger displacement then I would be on board for the torque and reliability.
These comments prove to me that a lot of truck guys just have a truck for the looks. It's an accessory, not a tool to them. They don't care about the actual practical facts, they just care about nebulous things like "soul" and the sounds they make for other drivers sitting at the stoplight.
I've always hated that people have trucks for no reason but as someone who needs one for work I'm not buying a turbo work truck. boost isn't reliable, it puts more strain on the engine which should be fine if you aren't already putting strain on the engine with towing or doing heavy supply runs and with a turbo your adding another point of failure. you have rpm, boost and displacement they're the 3 ways engines make power, the only one that doesn't add extra strain is displacement but it adds weight which matters but not for a work truck. the I6 is the engine that is for people who don't use their truck for work same with a Ecoboost. If my truck is out I'm out I'm losing money every minute that truck isn't working and when it breaks now I got to pay a shop or buy the parts to repair it myself. I've been watching the I6 Hurricanes development for awhile and they're making the same mistakes that were made with the Ecoboost. the I6 would be really good in a car not a truck it'd need to be at least 4L and diesel to work well in a work truck.
@@InsomniaReal Enjoy your lifter tick. Fuel costs also eat into your margins, but you aren't actually a business owner, so I don't expect you to understand basic economics.
@@SoylentGamer a truck breaking down is alot more expensive than 2-4 mpg. you dont understand engines if you think a turbo 3L making 400+ hp is gonna be reliable enough to compete with a 5.7 making 400. you need the same amount of fuel to make the same amount of power the only savings is when you dont need alot of power which works on a flat highway and those only exist in certain places i know when i go on the highway it has more curves and ups and downs than a toxic relationship with a latina.
@@InsomniaReal As I said, enjoy your lifter tick. Parts and service divisions need to make their quarterly earnings, and they'll engineer in flaws for you to pay for, regardless if your engine is naturally aspirated or turbocharged. Turbos are even more efficient on hilly terrain, what goes up must come down, and when you're going downhill, there will be no load and the turbo won't be making boost, so the smaller displacement will move less air, and thus less fuel. It's like displacement on demand, but even more efficient, because as we all know piston rings are the greatest source of friction in an engine. You're not the brightest, are you?
@@SoylentGamer We've completely migrated away from where we disagreed and its my fault for not properly conveying my argument. I wasn't talking about the hemi and the hurricane more just the idea of a higher displacement na vs a turbo for the same power and the inherent reliability problems but hemis have mds and that solidly levels that field.
I have a question do and how do turbos change engine breaking and what would that change do to alter the efficiency of them going down hills because without engine breaking they'd just be a lot more efficient but with engine breaking would it make them just marginally more efficient or would there still be a lot of benefit gained. I don't know much about turbo engines past the basics.
I guess I’m keeping my TRX forever
Best Vehicle ever
Worst MPG ever 😂
I had identical 5.7s, one 3.92 and one 3.21. There was almost no difference in mpg.
The EPA is the problem🤬🤬🤬🤬
We'll see if the hurricane holds up in the long run. We've already seen fords ecoboosts, that aren't even making that much boost, dropping turbos and burning oil before 100k miles. The hemi will go 200k if it's taken care of properly and not idled to death.
Only thing that has added power and mpg in gas engines (kind of recently) is raising compression, and adding a high pressure fuel pump. I wouldnt doubt seeing pump gas cars or trucks in next few years with 15 or 16:1 compression.
Good point, the manufactures obviously got lazy and weak when the government dropped these stupid regulations…
Okay but HEMI go BRRRRRR 🦅🇺🇸
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If I wanted "quiet and smooth" I would buy a Lexus. Nice review if I was buying a truck and not intending to do truck things like pulling a boat or travel trailer, either way I wouldn't purchase either need a bigger truck to pull a 5th wheel so I'll just keep my 3 year old F250 a while longer.
Exactly. All these big power numbers are meaningless when a nicely equipped Bighorn barely hits mid-size truck payload numbers, and fully loaded top trims have less than my Volkswagen 🤣
Wheel spin traction control and gears make s difference