Terminator Dark Fate - Sarah Connor Meets Old T800 Scene 2
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2020
- In Mexico City, a newly modified liquid Terminator -- the Rev-9 model -- arrives from the future to kill a young factory worker named Dani Ramos. Also sent back in time is Grace, a hybrid cyborg human who must protect Ramos from the seemingly indestructible robotic assassin. But the two women soon find some much-needed help from a pair of unexpected allies -- seasoned warrior Sarah Connor and the T-800 Terminator.
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“And I’m extremely funny’. That was actually pretty funny.
Pretty sure that was the point...
I bet Hollywood stole that line from every Soviet stand-up comedian.
Yeah I chuckled at that.
the way that john's original protector said that was so emotionless got me
Yep and even though Dark Fate didn’t do well at the Box office Arnold Schwarzenegger still steals the moment.
Terminator 1: Pulls a guy's heart out.
Terminator 6: Helps his wife with groceries.
Some character development.
Terminator 4 (Marcus): Gives his heart - literally - to John.
@@mauriciomorais7818 Looking back I think us fans were too harsh on Terminator Salvation. What came after was worse. At least T4 tried giving us a cool sci-fi apocalyptic war tale to break away from the previous 3. T5 and T6 just reverted back into far worse versions of cat and mouse survival.
@@TitaniumXHero it's precisely because T4 had potential that we should be harsh on it.
T3, T5, T6 are all trash, ignore them.
T4 should've been what Prometheus was to Aliens - an origin story.
It shouldn't even have 'Terminator' on the title.
@@mauriciomorais7818 I didn’t realize this before but I somehow 100% agree with you. Well said.
@@mauriciomorais7818 I think T3 had the best ending of the disliked movies in this franchise. The whole judgement day is inevitable theme. Showing the first main attack against humanity. It was something we had seen in Sarah’s dreams. But now it was our reality.
The story of Carl, a Terminator finding purpose after completing its mission, is the most interesting part of this movie.
"ONLY" interesting part of this movie
If "Uncle Bob" wasn't in such bad shape he could have gone on the same Journey as Carl.
Except it’s not because it makes no sense when look at the previous lore established about its character.
@@sullivandmitry1416 That lore being? Citation please.
There is nothing interesting about this movie.
It's a Hollywood cash grab.
While I do admit that Dark Fate had a LOT of great ideas....the killing of John Connor just stops the movie before it even has a chance to start. And it's a kick in the groin to the relationship that T2 built between John and the T-800.
Yup cus muh politics matters more than plot
What's an even worse kick in the balls is who and what they decided to replace John with. That chick can't act to save her life.
very much agree, would have been great for the deleted ending of T2 to play out, John becomes a senator.
he then could continue to actively fight the rise of Skynet or other AI's before they come into being. this Legion one flies under the radar, and Sarah not wanting John involved, gets involved in protecting this new chick, who is destined to be the new leader of humanity, showing different generations of humanity have to keep fighting to change the future, so humanity can keep living
T1 & T2 are still important but a new generation is fighting a new AI
Honestly I hate what they did to John and the mc is really boring, the rev9 is also not menacing compared to previous terminators, but everything else is fine, Carl and Sarah were good, not in nostalgia sense, I actually liked their development despite the disrespectful start of their arc, I liked enhanced girl terminator thing, she was also good, the mc though, the writers didn't seem to notice her existence much, she's so boring
Honestly, this movie isn't a masterpiece but it's not as horrible as people make it, on its surface it's a good movie, as a terminator film, it's disrespectful and doesn't innovate at all, but still it is mostly okay
If you think about it, it makes great sense. John himself didn't exist in the original timeline, the original leader of the resistance had to have been someone who didn't have a parent from the future. Who knows how many changes in the timeline, how many "leaders of the resistance " came and went before Terminator 1, how many different versions of Skynet (versions that weren't helped along by researching the remains of a T-800) and different dates for Judgement day there were before previous changes in the timeline altered everything. Anyways, I believe they were trying to set up a new trilogy where at the end of it, the Legion timeline would be erased and we'd be back to John and Skynet and one of the late 90's through early/mid 2000's dates for judgement day, or maybe John would be saved but the Legion timeline remains, making John a man passed over in history or a mentor for the next "savior of humanity", since he'd be in his mid to late 40's by the time the Legion timeline's judgemen day happens. We'll never know.
“I’m never gonna fucking call you Carl.” My favorite line of Sarah hating the T-800.
She hates t 800 for everything that’s happened no matter wich one t800 still t800
She still called him Carl tho
Actually "Uncle Bob" T-800 changed Sarah's view, like protecting John whatever it takes, sacrifice itself to prevent reverse engineering and "machine can value human life"... until they ruined it with Dark Fate.
She sounds so drunk when she said that. Lol.
@Jaeger19Ultima yep. The infamous deleted scene of Senator John Connor... I heard it was removed specifically in order to keep the ending vague for the possibility of another sequel... ironically, the suits probably though they would keep hitting homeruns like T1 and T2. In hindsight, they really should've gone with that ending and closed it out. Every sequel after T2 has done the exact same thing with slight variations, except for Salvation. Salvation was the logical progression of the storyline, and had they been able to see it through, it could've been epic. Salvation was *SOOO* much better than people have it credit for initially.
"Touching story. Doesn't have a point." --- best description of the plot of the whole movie lol
She said "Touching story. Does it have a point?"
@@1986Unlimited the incorrect quote can still be used
@@1986Unlimited well that is a rhetorical question so ...... But thanks for the correction. I indeed misheard.
@@girl-xk2db look at the bible for extra evidence.
🤣🤣🤣
“Im never gonna fucking call you Carl” will forever be funny to me 😂
I'm never gonna f🤬cking call this a Terminator movie. 😂😂😂😂
And then she later did call him Carl, right in their last moments, when she called out to him to wake up and save Dani.
She also told him earlier to never say John’s name again. But then right before he died with the Rev-9, he said, “For John,” as his last prayer.
It’s interesting how Carl’s dog doesn’t show hostility to him like the other dogs from the series where’s they bark and lash out
And why would he even be petting a dog if he's a Terminator?
@@MikeDunn Because it's a shit movie.
@@filthycasual8187 or because you didn't pay attention dummy
@@MikeDunn If a terminator raised a dog from when it was a puppy. The puppy would be used to it.
@@filthycasual8187 LMAO!!!
Terminator fans literally every time a new film comes out: "Okay so the last movie was pretty decent"
Speak for yourself
@@blamitdsz I still enjoy RotM and Salvation
Naw Salvation was the last good film for me. I'd place it third, with T2 edging out T1 slightly for first place. This film I'd place fourth, alongside Genesys, with the horrible T3 coming in at final place.
Idk who ur talking about but most terminator fans hate everything except t1 and t2
That last film was
This one was just a polished turd
Carl when he gets shot: Oh no, my clothes are ruined, Alicia will be mad
I thought that line was the most hilarious line… it will be very hard to explain this to alicia
It really fits as he said he grew a conscience, now he takes others feelings, or at least their ability to process this, into consideration.
"I want to stand and fight" - followed by spending 99% of the movie being nothing but a liability.
Just basically stands behind everyone else most of the time giving dirty looks and trying to look tough
She stabs the Terminator with the thingie that made him explode. Which, come to think of it, is more than John did in the finale of T2.
@@Alknix no John did far more
@@Gameferret16191 S'rsly? Like what?
@@Alknix he hacked into a sky net data base reloaded everyone's guns stop the t1000 from tracking them didn't try to get in the terminators face when near it
Warned them when it was near
Tell me what did dani do
Girl with no powers: I wanna stand and fight
Arnie: I guess you're even funnier
powers?
@@rubberwoody Girl powers
@Moshin Rafsanjani SLAYYYYYY
Love the detail of the dog being alright with Carl.
Well considering dogs can feel things about someone or something, Carl qualified as a human due to his integration into humanity. I'm pretty damn sure the dog felt something was off about Carl ( of course cause he is a Terminator ) but eventually warmed up to him
@@Dukesparrow1999 My man..someeone else that can appreciate the specifics of these films.
Dogs can relate to machines as possessions of the dog's own master. My dogs have been ready to attack anyone, even visitors to my home, who came near my motorcycles, unless I lead the visitor over myself. And when that machine is providing protection and comfort to the master, I guess there might even be affection.
@@tryarunm I need your clothes, your boots and
I think its much simpler than that. Dogs have inferior vision to humans, and were simply trained to bark at the smell of terminators that don't smell human. This dog would recognize that the T800 smells different, but especially if it was raised as a pup, it would never have been trained to bark at it anymore than it would bark at a roomba. It could even identify the T800 as leader of their group, regardless of whether or not it smelled different to others.
They transformed this beautiful franchise into a soap opera
Call it Feminism
@@SuperSoldiers uh..... yeah..... uh....... sure......
No, people actually enjoy soap operas.
@@josephmassaro yeah sure, thats why Hollywood's profit numbers are falling faster than Felix Baumgartner
@@qwertyuiopa410 You clearly didn't get the meaning.
I love how Carl has the audacity to say “After I killed John” with a straight face
After that once scene in the woods where Sarah cries and says she doesn't remember what John looks like anymore because she destroyed all his photos so Skynet couldn't track him down, i wish they had a scene in which Sarah asks Carl to paint a picture of him. I am sure Carl would be able to draw a 1:1 scale photo of John, he's pretty much a walking camera+printer.
That one girl terminator from the tv series could perfectly replicate a security card by just taking a glance at it and painting it on a piece of paper.
so many things could of went differently with this franchise. they can reform from this, hell even retcon john's death AND still having Arnold in for 1 final film, but they'd have to be extremely careful in doing so. mostly with john's death.
I had the exact same thought. It would have been interesting to have Carl offer that at some point; they may not have even needed to show that picture being made because I'm 50:50 on whether Sarah would have refused to have John's killer produce such an image.
He would probably draw some stick figure
She couldn’t do that, because it would mean owing something to the machine that killed her son. Her resolution comes from the realization that Dani is her second chance, “She’s John.”
Sinan do you mean Cameron?
I like the thought of his step-kids, begrudgingly accepting of him, yet still, "Ugh, he's _such_ an f-ing *robot,"* without ever actually realizing how true that statement was, lol
I think his carls wife said something like “I never asked about his past but he told what he did I” I don’t remember correctly but it was something along the lines of that
When Carl explains his Weapons locker and mentions that this is Texas, I nearly pissed myself laughing.
It's also that flat delivery so unique to Arnie that makes me fold up in laughter!
Not that funny dumbass
So easily pleased.
@@albertreade7607 so easily triggered
@@albertreade7607 ITS HILARIOUS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. twat
Kyle: it doesn't feel pity, remorse or fear
Carl: Hold my beer!
Ha ha irony
Either that was before he accomplished his mission or he still doesn't feel pity, remorse or fear. He just chose/chooses to be of use.
@@Sal_Sal27
No in the movie they implied that he feels bad for some random lady he had never talked to before.. This is basically immediately after the "end of Skynet".. How is he around if Skynet was never created? No idea. Every movie, book, tv show says Skynet will happen but this one ignores that and says "Take this time paradox because PLOT"
Ends up getting married and taking care of her kid because PLOT
Terminator instantly feels bad for Sarah because??? PLOT
What happened to "Missions never end" "Auto destroying CPU so no Terminator can be reprogrammed" "Shut down and await future orders as seen in books/tv" "Read only mode as to not be a future threat to skynet" etc? Toss that out the window and lets Remake Terminator movies (almost scene for scene) with the same dam (New terminator vs old / Protect me plot) but this time Skynet.. I mean LEGION (NO relation but still wants to take over the world, kill humans and makes killer robots.) will kill John.. I mean some random character given almost zero character development.
Why on Earth did they think this movie would do well?
@@bobshanery5152 that seems to check out. Even though there are some explanations, but still...
As for your question at the end, I saw one behind-the-scenes where they suggested that Sarah Connor was the actual protagonist of the franchise, not John Connor, but unfortunately for them, the [majority of the] viewers didn't take to that.
Try telling that to RoboCop, Kyle. Despite those OCP bastards efforts in trying to wipe his memories, they failed.
The scene in Carl’s living room is one of my favorite bits in the entire series. There’s so much intense character drama going on, and summing up the message of the franchise: “Do you believe in fate, Sarah? Or do you believe that we all can change the future, every second, by every choice that we make?”
Sarah changed the future and saved humanity - but the problem doesn’t stop there. We all have to keep making that choice to change the future.
Future is shit, just like the past
Arnold was raised in the rubble of post-Nazi Austria. Now he's seen Americans waving swastikas, and a President calling them "fine people". Perhaps he's concluded that every generation is Sisyphus.
Have some standards dude. This was garbage
This scene was incredibly stupidb
There should be no drama. Sarah should be constantly trying to f**k up "CARL" for what he did to John
I love the Nostalgia Critic's take on his "I'm extremely funny line."
End of the movie, right before his finish, Sarah, "Tell me a joke."
"What?"
"You said you were funny, so tell me a joke."
"Knock knock."
"Who's there?"
"You were right, I can lie, and I'm not funny."
She chuckles, he explodes
I took some liberties with that last line, lol
*"I LIED"* in Commando Voice.
"...and I'm extremely funny"
- Prove it
- Knock knock
- Who's there?
- Not John
@@ImTeqzaa Directed by Robert B. Weide
@@ImTeqzaa too soon?
Yeah, too soon....
It looks like Arnold's having a few friends over for BBQ in a couple beers
I was surprised he didn't light up a stokie 😂
and*
Shnitzel and brews :)
@@MrPAULONEAL And he'll be back 😂 lol like always
I'd like to have a beer and blaze with a terminator. That'd be cool 😎
“I’m never gonna Fuckin call you Karl” 🤣😂 almost spit my beer out! 😂
I just want a movie of Carl going around doing drapes. 😂
While I like the idea of a terminator fully integrated into human society and adopting some sort of consciousness, this movie is just... oof
Yeah, like "good idea, poor execution"
Isn't that how SpaceX and Tesla formed with Elon Musk?
in the terminator comic sequel for Salvation we get to see that actually. And ti works out a whole lot better than this shit show
@liquid metal Wow! That's a brilliant idea! Seriously, @liquid metal, that is the only possible real-world regeneration of Cyberdyne or its clone to explain the succession of increasingly sophisticated terminators. It could even secretly fund NASA or the Soviets, or have an Elon Musk-like genius, establish a manufacturing base on the dark side of the moon. I doff my hat to you.
ironically this is visited upon in T2, where the terminator explicitly says that Skynet sets the terminators neural net processor to "Read Only" mode to prevent precisely this outcome. Someone or Something would have had to cause the chip to flip out of read-only mode for this to happen. Also, Terminators have a laundry list of mission objectives on any given trip through time. Killing John Conner just always takes top priority. Assuming that's even done, the next set of missions is killing off his lieutenants and anyone that could help John or replace John's role in future history, then assuming any and all of that is done. The terminators are programed to secure resources for the future war, like raw materials like Coltan for skynet. A terminator doesn't ever "run out of things to do". This entire scene completely disregards pretty much the entire terminator canon, but even it's OWN canon, in that it's supposed to be a direct sequel of T2. So glad I didn't see this movie.
"Is she a Terminator too?"
Okay, that would actually be interesting. A couple of learning Terminators try to infiltrate human society and end up fooling each other. Neither of them figure it out because, hey, some couples just have relationships that aren't sexual. The male Terminator calls up the female's inability to have a child as HIS issue instead of hers, and vice versa. Eventually they just adopt, by which time they've actually managed to become pretty good at taking care of children (courtesy of many years of observation and downloading hundreds of parenting books).
Yeah some relationships are not sexual. But find me one human being that doesn't sleep, eat, shit, piss, vomit, fart, sneeze and have bad allergy days I'd be more than surprised. If she's a human she's the dumbest one that ever walked the planet not to wonder why "Carl" seems a bit off. If she's a terminator her advanced learning computer CPU must have been from the bargain bin at Staples
I could see two terminators living together and learning how to become more human, but unless one or both of their CPU’s are damaged, how could they not know they’re both machines. Anytime the movie shows Arnie’s viewpoint, he sees everything for what it is. Human, plant, animal, machine.
That is true@@adamschaeffer4057. However Carl could fake those things. In TSCC it's shown that T-888s in general are capable of deep infiltration as Vick Chamberlain was able to substain a marriage with a key Skynet progenitor. Yes, that marriage did include a physical relationship. A T-800 set on "read-and-write" mode instead of the usual "read-only" mode should be capable of learning these cues to enhance it's infiltration mode.
wait a sec, i just realized something....ARNIE WOULD BE LIKE THE BEST PARENT! like, since hes a machine, he doesn't have emotional outbreaks, and always remembers the best way to parent....so he would e the best dad
@@richardlair6981 That is literally Sarah's point in T2... when they're in Mexico:
"Watching John with the machine, it was suddenly so clear. The terminator would never stop. It would never leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get drunk and hit him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die to protect him. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice."
I think there's another layer to Sarah's pain. John will always be the biggest factor but there's also this: once Skynet sent a killer after Sarah (and she was told about Judgment Day) it sabotaged any prospects for a normal (family) life. Once her and John ended JD before it could happen, that had put some of that hope back into perspective, until Carl comes and kills her son right in front of her, and then disappears. Come years later, not only has she found her son's killer but he has a wife and raised a child. She's seeing Skynet's denizen living a normal life that she'd been denied (directly and indirectly by this thing). It's really tragic when you think about it
Adding insult too injury taking a sledge hammer to whatever was left of her heart.
@@scruffythejanitor4368 and not to mention the fact that it's like she wasted all that time destroying skynet only for another threat of the same kind to take its place. So it's like she wasted her time because judgment they still happened under a different name and a different AI. But it is like she wasted her time because regardless of what she does, judgment Day is inevitable. It may not be by skynet. It may be by legion, but no matter what you do, judgment day is absolutely inevitable
If you look at it in that way is pretty good writing, but the whole idea is based on killing the character whose presence was vitam for the saga, in the first 5 mimutes
When Sarah said “I’m never gonna fuckin call you Carl” the theater lost it.
Was it a black theater because thats not funny
How is the T-800 sitting in a law chair without crushing it?
How is Arnie not crushing it 🤣
It probably was built to spec by the T800 itself
Only 400 lbs, they say it
Squatting like a terminator
They aren’t supposed to actually weigh 400 lbs, more like 300.
I buy Sarah being angry at this specific terminator, I do. It killed her kid. But she legitimately saw a terminator learn the value of human life, she did a whole ass speech about it. And with the deleted scene of them reprogramming him having being cut and technically non-canon, that terminator learned on his own. She saw it. To not believe that a terminator could change is complete character un-development
"if a machine can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too," completely agree
Well, that's the thing. She doesn't WANT to believe it. Because that would get in the way of hating him. Which she feels she needs, otherwise she'd be betraying the memory of her son. She commited her entire life to revenge, if she abandons it, then, what, was it all for nothing? Her development is in overcoming those feelings.
Between John Connor being killed and Luke Skywalker throwing the lightsaber, people don’t seem to recognize that Dark Fate and TLJ ended with Luke and Sarah _having overcome their respective tragedies._ They didn’t die defeated and alone.
@@robynsun_love oh my god, THANK YOU, I so needed to see this, a rare light of reason in the endless deluge of whining about "tHeYrUiNeDlUkE!"
@@Alknix they DID ruin Luke though. Just because they gave him some semblance of an arch (one that is ridiculous in the first place) doesn't mean it was any good.
Dog: “Don’t move, don’t move, this damn robot will choke me, don’t move.... he tried feeding me bolts and lug-nuts as treats, don’t freaking move...... tap tap, weeeeee I’m free, weeeee “
Hahaha funny perito
Lmfao
It's good to see Linda Hamilton health.
Smokers vocal fry…
I’d bet her lungs look like a chimney stack
She talks like that because she is partial DEF because of the elevator scene in T 2 when Arnold is shooting the shotgun she for got to put her earplugs back in after she used the bathroom
@@RIP19851 why didnt she cut? its that easy
Well banging your way to a producer and divorcing for what was it? 50 million? That'll do wonders for your health
While I’m not too big on Terminator Dark Fate I do like this scene the most between the T-800 and Sarah. Some of my favorite parts of the movie
It is some good dialogue here
This is the first time I have witnessed an actual murder happen in front of me. This franchise was coldly and calculatedly killed by this movie. Wow! Sad
The franchise had to progress along some angle. It would have died even faster with mindless repetition of the first movie.
Very original. Another person complaining about how the movie sucked. Yeah we get it, you and a lot of people didn't like the movie.
Honestly, it wasn't that bad. Sure it had its issues, and it wasn't the best movie, but it did have some good ideas. If everyone wasn't so salty about John's death (which I was too, don't get me wrong) and they hadn't tried to push some random female hero that no one cared about (Honestly I thought she seemed more of a leader than John did), this movie would have done well.
The biggest problem with this movie was that it didn't get to develop the new characters at all, because everyone wanted to see the old characters. Unfortunately, Linda Hamilton and Arnie can't carry this franchise for much longer and that was the point of this movie was to pass on the legacy to create a new franchise (With Legion being sort of a spinoff).
Hei Darkfire the movie sucked for one simple reason: wokeism.
@@apaulotroughtzmantz2914 Tell me what is "woke" about this movie? Honestly, I get different definitions of the term depending on who I ask, so I don't know how you would personally define it.
I’m glad. Arnold has been making a mockery of it since T3
I think Sarah Connor is the real Terminator.
she's STILL alive and they've been sending cyborgs back in time like hotcakes trying to kill her...
Don’t give them ideas
I can’t be the only one who would love to see a movie (or series) about Carl growing a conscience.
Yes, you are absolutely the only one who wants that 🤡
@@bayphomet apart from feminists.
You're alone on that one
That actually would've been better than the movie we got.
@@MaverickChristian No
Normally Arnold dominates scenes just with his presence, but Linda is so skilfully written and such a brilliant actress that I feel she takes a bit more attention, which is EXTREMELY difficult to do against Arnold
I like the subtlety of "Karl" calling the Terminator "He" while Sarah calls it, "it"
Sarah still absolutely hates t800 the moment she sees it again just like T2 she wants to kill it
What about Terminator Genisys ? Calling him a papa
I was working at a movie theater when this came out. We actually had guests get up and walk out the theater when they saw John Connor die. I went ahead and watched the movie anyway and yes I was pissed too. There's only two good things about this movie and that is Arnold and Linda. I was amazed that James Cameron even had anything to do with this movie cause I expected way better from him.
I heard Cameron was barely involved it was all Tim Miller's idea
Linda was the worst part of this movie
I feel like Arnold is being HIMSELF, but when they bring up a conversation about their mission he is in TERMINATOR mode.
I feel bad for carl, poor guy can't drink a beer
Wait till the next movie, Terminator Lite.
At least the dog wants to be his beer buddy.
@@onemoremisfit I for one never drank beer or even wine because in my opinion, it tastes awful!
@@jamieolberding7731 Liquor is an acquired taste. With me liquor is self limiting because I get a headache from any more than a moderate amount.
@@onemoremisfit Wine has a sour taste, while beer.... it tastes like... well.................... BEER! I prefer drinks like Milk, water, Juice, and also Pop. My favorite Pop soft drink is actually Root Beer, which is the ONLY type of beer I actually like because it's sweet and flavorful, and not BLECH like real Beer is.
While this movie as a movie sucked, it really added some cool lore to the Terminator universe. The while growing a consciousness (or the equivalent to one) is a really cool anecdote. And the line "You set me free. And now, I'm going to help you protect the girl. Because *I* choose to." is an amazing line I gotta admit.
The dog next to the t800 chill as hell actually was pretty funny
When Carl is telling Sarah what he learned from her, how she changed the future, and she set him “free” to discover moral choice, a soft acoustic version of the Terminator theme music is playing. The scene is a callback/bookend to the moment in the first movie, when Kyle Reese told her in the motel room that he had always loved her.
its wasnt that bad until Danny started talking
Take this franchise. Find a talented up and coming director. Give them a shoe string budget (1-10 million), so they are forced to think creatively, and not rely on hollow spectical. Then give them complete creative control. That's how you stand a chance of revitalising this franchise.
My thoughts for a Terminator movie would be a survivor from the police station massacre coming across another Terminator some time later and they would be completely on their own, no help from the future at all.
I'd like to see Denis Villeneuve try it. He does world-building and attention-to-detail in sci-fi with incredible passion; just look at BR2049 and Dune.
I wished they had developed Carl's backstory with his adopted family more. Also, I know he's keeping a low profile with a draping business. But it's intriguing knowing that he could literally be the best that ever lived at almost any job. With his vast encyclopedic knowledge, he could be a Noble Prize winning physicist, the wealthiest business tycoon, a top-level engineer and innovator, a flawless politician, champion game show competitor. His super-strength, agility, and accuracy could make him an Olympic athlete who could be the best at any event, or the strongest World's Strongest Man competitor. And never feeling fatigue, boredom, or needing sleep, he could even be all these at the same time!
Hmm I think he would be better as a bodybuilder champion, movie star, governor, and millionaire business man.
@@ktefccre In stages. Sure. But imagine being all that at the SAME time.
He has the same lifespan as a very long lived human
@@packerman7410 Yes, but not having to sleep would essentially increase what he could do in that same lifespan by 33%. Imagine what you could do if you didn't have to spend 1/3 of the day sleeping. He is also free from the often diminishing returns of aging. Imagine top athletes, intellectuals, innovators, etc. who could maintain their full mental/physical capacities until the day they die.
A Bodybuilder.
A politician.
Huh...
"I want to stand, and fight"
Proceeds to do next to no fighting while everyone else does the work.
Well, she IS supposed to be the leader of the resistance. Motivating others to fight is pretty much in the job description.
@@Alknix So what you're saying is, she did next to no fighting while everyone else does the work?
@@Astricozy She stabbed the Terminator with the thingie that made him explode. Come to think of it, she did more in the final battle than John did. Weird that...
@@Alknix It's pathetic you go to every comment and post the same shit, desperately defending this dumpster fire of a movie.
Grace was dogshit, both as actor and as character.
Dani was dogshit, both as actor and as character.
The script was horrific, woke garbage.
The only spot of light was Arnie and Linda's presence, and maybe the cool action sequences.
And that's coming from a diehard Terminator fan with a life-size T-800 in my room.
3:41 That chair he is sitting on also hasn't noticed he is 400 pounds
Might be logical if he was a prototype built lighter he might be a t888 not a t800
He's not really sitting down. He's actually squatting (like how you see those mimes "sit" on an invisible chair).
According to T1, the T-800 only weighs 200 pounds.
@@DanielDimov358 That is the weight of the prop exoskeleton used for filming. The fictional weight is somewhere around 400-600 pounds
@@juicegodalpha As far as I know, that statement refers to the fictional weight, not the prop. It makes no sense for futuristic materials to be heavy.
Dark Fate will forever remain a mixed bag for me. On the one hand, you get scenes like this which showcase Schwarzenegger giving a fine performance, and adding weight to the consequences of the previous film: Skynet’s destruction, John’s importance, and Sarah’s journey as a tormented heroine. Having the T-800 have a redemption arc is a good idea. It wasn’t handled flawlessly, but I appreciate the subplot of a machine breaking free of his chains and choosing to be someone noble. It feels in keeping with the franchise. At the same time, this film isn’t original and just rotates out the messiah figure of the previous films and antagonist for new ones instead. And this time, they’re pretty lackluster. But Junkie XL’s score, Arnold’s presence, and Hamilton’s return are bright spots for sure. Also, does anyone know the score used in this one scene?
One thing that would have fixed it for me and made 100% sense was for Dani to have been John's daughter. It would have given Sarah sometime to live for and to fight for besides just defeating another killing machine.
@@voss0749 That does sound like a good idea, but how would that have happened ? Would John have separated from Sarah a couple years after T2? Would Furlong's John be killed as an adult instead of as a child? Would he sacrifice himself instead of just being killed like a side-character in the first two minutes? I would have preferred that for his character. Have John triumph over his years of anxiety, fear, and pressure by becoming the leader his mom raised him to be- to save the world one last time and his daughter. That would be where I would have taken the film. If you want to kill him off, do it the right way. For the franchise. For John.
@@voss0749 Meh, I feel like this franchise already played the "OH IT'S A SURPRISE RELATIVE" card too many times for that to sound at all appealing to me.
Personally, I utterly adored this movie. It paid tribute to the themes and cycle of the preceding movies, whilst establishing room for something new. A lot of people rag on John's dying in the opening shots, but he was philosophically tied to the loop of fighting Skynet, and with it gone his character had no purpose. But the consequences of his Being gone led to scenes like this where we get to see the consequences of a completed thing being completed.
I enjoyed the film but I don't understand Junkie XL continuing to get work scoring these huge films
Can we all just agree that the alternate ending to T2 was the true ending?
A future world without cell phone? I'll pass...
I don't even care for that ending personally. I'm glad it didn't make the cut
I wonder who he married in the t2 alt ending
I agree with this!
This version of T800 is basically how Arnold currently is in real life. He's just being himself in this movie.
"That's your little Terminator kid"😂
Arnold: “sure i’ll be in this sh*t heap of a movie _but only if we can film most my scenes in my cabin’s backyard”_
Terminator Carl: Our relationship is not physical, I was efficient at changing diapers.
This hits too close to home.
Typical modern marriage.
Best line ever, “I’m never gonna Call you f$ckin carl” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i kinda doubt skynet would have no plan on what to do after the mission is complete, more likely the terminator would seek out all the other generals, lieutenants, etc. anyone in the resistance in the future.
This had so much potential, and I feel they just dropped the ball and a decent idea to give us fan service.
Grace : " wait you grew a conscience? "
Me : " wait you grew a beard? "
4:52 lmfao I can never take her seriously there.
"I'm extremely funny" 🤣
Dani: I want to stand and fight
She practically does nothing throughout most of the movie and everyone else does all her fighting
On the cool she really didn't do shit 😁
This movie made Salvation look like a masterpiece.
Dear God I love when she tells him I`m never going to call you Carl......lol.
When this video ended, I suddenly got my eardrums blown out.
The dog standing comfortably next to him shows how much humanity he has gained.
It shows what a shit movie this was
Hard to imagine that a robot will grow old and even grow a beard.
T-800s have actual human tissue, that's the answer.
@@m4rionettealastor702 but how does it feed the beard? That is extra tissue, so how does it produce it?
@@m4rionettealastor702 it’s just lifeless flesh to cover the metal that’s why they don’t feel anything . Come on dont be dense
@@curtiscj3087 it's not lifeless tissue you idiot, they explain in T2 that it's living tissue and it's able to regenerate
@@curtiscj3087 The flesh is living tissue and a close facsimile to real human flesh. And according to the T-800 in Terminator 2, the flesh does indeed "feel". It even compares the sensations from damage to "something like pain". But the way these sensations are interpreted by the T-800's CPU would be different than a human brain. So their flesh does "feel", just not comparable to the same way humans do.
I love the idea of what happens to a Terminator when he completes his mission. Too bad it wasn’t executed better in this.
They missed a golden opportunity to show the true adaptive nature of the T-800 and make this scene truely hysterical.....When sarah asks...
Sarah: "what she doesn't realize you weigh 400 pounds? That you never sleep?"
T-800:"Our realtionship isn't physical."
Sarah: "Ha... I geuss they never programed you to fuck huh?"
T-800: "Correct."
Danny: "Well uhh...how did you...you know get around that? i mean your in a realitionship with her...did that not come up?"
T-800: "It did.... I told her I was a homosexual...."
Everyone: 'Blank silence'
T-800: "... Her inquiries into the subject ceased after that. She cared more that I could change diapers...."
And thats how you write a mother fucking mic drop.
The flaw here is that some people consider "converting" a gay person to a hetero by a relationship as an achievement. If she is such a person Arnie T-800 would have been even more in trouble.
LoL 😂
😂😅😂🤣😂😂😂😂OMG so funny best idea ever omg let someone know Haha someone call them directors pls now ahaha I can’t stop laughing 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
Brilliant 😂😂😂
3:57
When a Terminator says she needs my help with the groceries you know it's time to call it a day.
We can collectively shit on this movie's plot until the end of time, but the concept of a terminator doing its best to learn, adapt and become as human as possible is a good concept.. like achieving primary objective and following secondary ones from that point on.
The more fragments of this movie I see, the happier I am I didn't pay any money to see it in a cinema.
😂
You're too poor to afford to movie tickets lol. You kids all spent your life savings for endgame's box office to beat Avatar lol
@@bowens9869 you can keep sucking cameron's dick if you want, but that won't make this movie better
Yeah, when i saw it in the theater...I wish i could've got my money back
See this scene could have been the blueprint for a fantastic end to the terminator franchise.... they could have corrected everything with this film, erased everything after T-2, and brought the t-800 story arc full circle from the t2 terminator saying "i cannot cry" to this terminator having come to realize and learning that " the tears are not the important part that makes one capable of compassion". Instead they decided to go with the tried and failed method of " throw everything in a meat grinder and season with peppered hysteria and ceral box morality!
“And I’m extremely funny”
That’s a very accurate description for Arnold in real life. 🤣
FUBAR his TV series, for sure
The story of this Terminator and what happened to him after killing John Conner and how he tried to be a human could be a perfect mini-series or even a movie.
Such wasted potential.
in all terminator movies the dogs would bark, when they sense terminator, but here we see a dog near terminator, it allows to pet him, and its silent..
For me thats like great little detail that terminator became more human, that even dogs is not afraid or alarmed by it..
Dani: I want to stand and fight!
Proceeds to stand behind a 60 year old woman in the final battle-_-
She does go and fight the terminator when she takes Grace's core and to try and kill the Rev9. But her job wasn't to fight, it was to be the bait to draw the Rev9 into the final confrontation. That was mostly her purpose. Hell, in the final fight she does more than John ever did to the evil terminators in the movies (He does more in the TV series, but that's a different thing entirely).
@@Hei_Darkfire I know but she could’ve done a bit more like maybe have a weapon if her own to help out a bit
@@sagnuto881 Would you have wanted someone who couldn't reliably shoot to be shooting if you were gonna be close to the target they were shooting at? She had like one afternoon of shooting training AT BEST. She wasn't a good shot, and both Grace and the T-800 were up close and fighting the Rev9 and probably would have gotten hit in the crossfire (Sarah had years of experience with guns, and knew what she was doing when she was shooting to the point where she seemed to react better to the Rev9 attacks better than the cyborg woman and the robot man). Dani was supposed to be the bait, that was the point of her involvement in the plan, because she was the only one in the group not expendable. You probably notice that even Sarah was trying to keep her distance and let the T-800 and Grace fight most of the battle, which was wise because a couple of humans wouldn't want to get too close to a guy who can literally stab you with any part of his body. And lastly, they probably had a limited amount of guns at that point. Remember that they'd been running from place to place, and were running low on resources. I'm pretty sure that shotgun she used on the Rev9 later was Sarah's after she dropped it.
"She did more than John ever did" Ineed, John just got killed.
@@Hei_Darkfire Then gee, maybe the bravado of saying I want to stand and fight, could have been alittle less. I mean if you cant fight, and the script doesnt have you fighting, maybe trying to be the hero is not in your character arch. Go make sarah a sandwhich and shutup.
Seriously, Linda is actually the only best thing for Terminator 2: Dark Fate. Reprising her role as Sarah Connor, now as a badass elder.
Don't mess with a grandma
"I'm never gonna fucking call you Carl." I died. Omfg
Love the way they gave carl a dog and the dog remained super calm around him showing how he has changed
I´d feel sorry for the unlucky burglar who decided to break into that house.
Carl would just pull the burglars heart out of his chest, put it in a brown paper bag, fold wrap it and hand it back to the burglar and tell the burglar "you're terminated, have a nice day"..
When he says she needs his help with the groceries and throws on the sweatshirt to cover the bullet holes... did make me tear up especially when he says hi honey
Imagine if Sarah just killed Mateo and Alicia and then was like, "Okay. Let's go."
"I want to stand and fight" strong words coming from not the one doing fighting.
This will be very hard to explain to alicia- did anyone else laugh out loud at that lime???? Its hilarious how thats what he says after being shot
"Because I choose to"
I have no intent of seeing this movie.
But god damn. When a machine learns of choice....THAT is a monumental moment...
Yep
You should see it...
Then regret it and wish you could get back your 2 hours
@@thejanusproject32 so..... Having told me I should see it, then immediately giving me a reason why I shouldn't see it.... What was the purpose of your reply?
IDGAF WHAT ANYONE SAYS THIS MOVIE WAS FREAKIN GREAT
Maybe in 20 years people will begin to appreciate this.
1984: badass killing machine
present day: hi, i am carl.
That is all you need to know about the downward spiral of this once awesome franchise.
Didn’t think this would make me as sad as it did. And I came mentally prepared for the worst.
I really appreciate how you blew the shit out of my ears with the closing music after the main audio was so fucking quiet I turned my headset up so I could hear.... well... I used to hear...
wasnt that loud
This was my favorite Terminator it shows that a sentient being can have a heart.
After they made 2 new terminator movie this one is gonna be a masterpiece
I havent seen this film, but i cant lie, this is a really cool concept and I liked the scene alot.
It's actually a pretty good story, in spite of the critics on here.
@@MsCathrynCThe acting in this movie is... ugh bad
It's a good movie I liked it
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The dog not barking always gets me.
One comment though..the dog does not bark or is afraid. That’s a nice touch and one of the few fine details I see subverted
I love tht girl terminator, her performance is amazing
This movie could have been passable but they really screwed the pooch with Dani. She was absolutely worthless.
Right? In the first movie, Sarah learned to fight. In the 2nd, John was already capable and adaptable. In the third, he still was, and Kate learns to fight and lead. In 4......we learn how John gets the scar seen in the first movie.
@@RidgeR5 as time passes, the more i wished we had gotten the salvation trilogy. I honestly believe termimator salvation was the last good terminator movie.
She is great I candy
I gotta admit the “I’m extremely funny” part got me
Of all the names to go with, they went with "Carl" lol. I want to watch this movie now, just so that I can see if any of the characters say, "Dammit Carl!" When something goes south.😂