But in fact, T-800 in order to defeat the advance terminator, he must be to sacrifice after beaten so badly. I feel so bad on the left arm of T800 that has a role to be cut off on the terminator franchise.
enamel is the strongest biological material we know of, it’s harder than steel but more brittle. I think it’s much more susceptible to shattering when compared to steel.
@@jared8019 yup, the toughest part of the human body. maybe somebody can make an enamel-coltan-spiderweb composite in the near future to make militarized robots.
@@henrikmonkee I love how after his first sentence you knew “no hope for this one” calling the first film boring is a disgrace. Better just to leave it I guess
The T-800 was Skynet's masterpiece. It's not the most advanced nor is it the most dangerous at face value, but its greatest strength is how freaking durable they are combined with their lack of easily exploitable weaknesses. The T-800 being made of non-exotic materials meant they were able to mass produce them too, so Skynet could just throw them at whatever was causing it issues and eventually they would succeed, even in this case where Skynet was erased from history a T-800 still survived for decades past its usual service life to see its mission to completion.
@Sun Shine Hey there was a whole TV show about Sarah Connor's Chronicles that got cancelled, we still need a season 3 because it was cancelled on a cliffhanger of John teleporting in the future where the war begins
There’s so much complexity to Carl’s character arc. He had a single-minded mission to kill John, which meant he could only acquire humanity after he’d accomplished it (and Sarah had already destroyed Skynet’s future existence). With that combination, he eventually gained the perspective that what he had done was wrong, and he had to do something to make up for it. As he told Sarah, “You set me free.”
With each movie the new terminators are less scary than the last. In the first movie the T-800 was unstoppable, even when blown in half it just kept coming, and that slow but steady progression toward its target was terrifying. Like it doesn't care. It doesn't feel pain. It's a machine sent to kill you, and it will keep trying to do that as long as it can. T-1000 similarly recreated that terror. An unstoppable machine that can get shot dozens of times and it just keeps coming. Rev-9 just seems like a regular Hollywood monster, it's big and strong, but it fails to terrify like its predecessors.
The appeal of T-800 and T-1000 were large based on the actors themselves and the movement they brought to the characters, Arnolds slow trudging movements or Robert Patricks deliberate but fluid motions. Each actor really sold the idea of the thing being a machine. The T-1000 also having a nice "Spring loaded" feel where it would slowly pace after its target but would suddenly burst into a full blown sprint. Sadly after these two performances the Terminators afterward relied heavenly on gimmicks and sfx rather then what the actor portraying them could do plus after the T-X the damn things moved to fluidly bringing super fast highly choreographed fighting rather then the slow but powerful robot brawls. And you tell me that the T-3000 isnt just literally Ultron made of metal shavings
Ok one thing it’s waaaay back with what Kyle Reese said to Sarah in the parking lot when trying ditch the terminator . it can’t be bargained with , reasoned with , it doesn’t feel pitty it won’t stop until you are dead! Hence is why through out all the movies villains can take a damn beating & Basically won’t stop until you’re dead plan & simple
The funny thing I find, I suppose the in-universe explaination for why the T-800 was able to defeat every single subsequent model Skynet ever produced is because it learned to be human, to acknowledge it's weaknesses and adapt to it's situation. While every other model after the T-800 has been a hollow, narrow-minded killing machine in most cases.
Yeah, every other model was designed with varying degrees of human nature, such as the ability to express or even display emotions (which is great for infiltration, not so much for time-assassins), but Skynet ultimately failed to understand that the big element to human success (and the subsequent effectiveness of the T-800) is our inherent ability to adapt and improve, wether it be our earliest ancestors using fire to ward off the cold and predators, developing agriculture to have a reliable source of food, or any of the millions of innovations we have made to develop ourselves as a species. This can also explain why the subsequent Terminators had more redundant strategies (disguising themselves, then engaging a target with physical attacks instead of using guns concealed in their chassis), as they were essentially beginning to relish the kill and the completion of their directives like a psychopath torturing an animal before putting it out of their misery (compared to the T-800, which loaded up with half an armory and just shot you as soon as it had a line of sight, only using physical force as a last resort or fighting a Terminator that obviously can’t be brought down with 5.56 NATO).
did u forget every other movie? in t2 they are lucky as fuk to be at that steel mill, sarah tried to shoot him down but the ammo went out, arnold came and shot one last shot and it blew and fell down. in t3 he came right on time with a big as chopper and crashed into the T-x, it got stuck with its legs. arnold tried to hold the door, the tx came crawling after john and arnold grabbed t-x and put his life battery thing in its mouth (they were super lucky both times, otherwise both got their ass kicked). the terminator in T1 could also ackwledge weakness and was not narrow-minded, he even got to sarahs mom, killed her and called sarah to get her hotell adress
remember when Kyle Reece, a trained soldier and expert on fighting Terminators got manhandled by a Terminator? Now we a see a teenage girl taking one down and actually fighting it strength with strength.
@@TroyTyler much lighter but have far more possibilities. The T-800 is just the same as human, only with metal endoskeleton. Terminators like the T-1000, T-X and Rev-9 can a lot more things do.
Say what you want about this movie. But when Carl said “For John” while his remaining flesh incinerated, that was awesome. He was an older terminator model and yet he seemed more human than the actual humans.
Well this movie flopped harder than Genisys did, and Genisys cancelled it's plans for a trilogy after it came out and did so bad. They're probably not going to revive this series again after how bad this movie did unless they can guarantee the movie is going to do well. And with Skynet now gone, it's basically a whole new franchise with Legion.
Rumor has it that the next movie will feature Arnold as he travels back to 2019, shoots whoever green-lit this movie, and then retires from acting to pursue a family life
For John? Was that an important character? Because they sure didn't treat him like one. Edited: Surprised people still comment on this. I'm glad there is true fans of the first 2 terminator films.
It suposed to show his regret, they are basically saying He died a human in his sacrifice. But the movie was so crap,that It was unwarranted in the narrative and a hit and miss what should had been a poignant moment
@@syler100 He's now the most powerful T-800. Since from "Uncle Bob" in T2. A T-1000 is useless without a CPU, I believe. Something along those lines, and knowing that T-800s have CPUs. Pops is essentially the perfect T-1000.
Rev-9 be thinking "Alright, this is bad. I'm severely damaged, I've got almost no mobility left, and there's no way I can repair myself in this time. My only chance of terminating the target is if she gets within melee range and I can break her neck. But there's no way she'd make a dumbass move like that when she clearly has the advantage, right?" **she runs up and tries to club it with a shotgun** "Oh..."
@@jasonhahn8797 She did fine, especially when grieving for John and wanting to avenge him, but she seemed for lack of a better term tired in this movie where as Arnold Schwarzenegger played the T-800 with the same energy as the past movies which isn't surprising since this is arguably his most iconic role.
@@vladotrajkovski9659 lol! But seriously! Looking back to the first film before the T-800 was inches away from reaching Sarah's neck you already knew how deadly serious it was to complete it's mission even after being blown up twice it kept going. There was legit tension that once it had It's hand on Sarah it was game over. With the Rev-9 you were supposed to be sold that it was the most deadly machine to exist yet it got knocked over by a 120 lbs girl & failed to kill her instantaneously once it had her in it's grasp.
@@DIM28073 remember the scene at the beginning when Grace shot him in the factory, and he had to do that cool standing up thing, and also wait for his face to fully assemble and then started running like crazy.. he could easily started running earlier but noo :) those kind of thing were throwing me off from whole "danger" in the movie
Your bias will never let it see it otherwise. We know. I liked Terminator 5 and 6, 4 should have been great but fell short, and I will admit, I hate 3 with a passion.
Remember when the T-X instantly pulverized John's leg with one hand. Remember when machines had actual machine strength that could immediately snap a human neck
3:55 Jesus Christ even after all that he was still alive while the Rev-9 was dead. No matter how advanced the Terminators get, they just can't beat the sheer toughness of the good old T-800😌
If you think this is dumb because a girl tackled a light weight carbon endoskeleton that can barely even stand then watch terminator 1 where a dude lifts/pushes a 600 kilogram titanium t800.
They should give up trying to create the most lethal terminator ever and just have a movie where Skynet just sends a bunch of obsolete models and crazy weird ideas for terminators. We need a Skynet run by Cave Johnson
"I'm the guy that's gonna burn your house down....with the lemons" hey it might work, just send a shit load of combustible lemons through time instead.
After watching this movie with my dad, he calmly stood up, slowly turned his head towards me, and in a mimicked Arnold accent uttered, "Boollshith Moovie..." and slowly walked off... Thing is I couldn't disagree...
Dude what that’s funny I never thought your dad was like stood up to you with Arnie’s accent and walk off like a terminator also I guess your dad may dislike this film and it can’t beat the original two movies
@@Aloha1041 no, he dropped it over the edge and held it there, he could just drop it over the edge and not go down with it, and every time it tries climb back out, just kick it back down
Well with the damage the rev 9 sustained and it's mobility problems I could argue that it simply fell off balance when she threw herself into it. Maybe the weight wasn't distributed evenly due to the damage. I'm not sure. Nobody was going to throw themselves into a T800 though. Even without it's legs and a missing hand in the first Terminator it seemed menacing chasing Sarah Connor before it eventually got crushed in the hydraulic press.
@@wesmel06 To extend this theory a bit further, my headcanon is that the newer terminators are explicitly designed to be more nimble and agile, potentially making them faster and more adaptable than the clunky "slow" T800 module. While the T800s are thick and sturdy, what comes after was designed for maneuvarability, so I assume Rev9 and others models can be toppled/shifted significantly more easily than the T800.
@@Sirspongeman No, not "especially Arnold". Arnold is at fault for committing to all the shitty movies that devalued the franchise. He is the reason why Linda deserves better. If he had been less greedy saying yes to bad scripts, this dreadful mess would not have been waiting for her when she was finally allowed back.
@Brendan Milburn Cameron is well past his prime, directing and writing. His involvement in this film should have been met with cautious optimism at best - and, as we can now plainly see, he was incapable of saving this suckfest from sucking.
@Brendan Milburn Nooooo, the script for Battle Angel was terrible, just damn terrible - butchered it completely IMHO. Why did Ido need a wife and daughter? It actually diminishes the purity of his character significantly for him to need such reasons to be a good person - not to mention the wife was surplus weight the story, I do love Jenn Connely dearly, but no go away from this film please. And why in the sacred blue fuck did Grewishka need to kill a dog instead of a temporary abduction of the kid which was only to get Alita down into the sewers in the first place..... Killing the dog reeeeeaaaallllyyy annoyed me more than I can say - if they think that killing a dog is less offensice than a temporary abduction of a child as bait for Alita, I have to say I really hate the writer, and I'd be inclined to worry for any pets they have or come into contact with. That's not even getting into the hokey talk about evil she was spouting in the bar like a frickin self righteous preacher incapable of doing anything for herself - that entire fight in the bar was utterly pointless and served no purpose in moving the story forward. Likewise the black guy with sunglasses* was a pointless character who could have just been replaced by Desty Nova completely, instead of acting as a proxy - for that matter why was Nova up in Zalem? By the end of the film I was under the impression that whoever wrote the script was being deliberately contrary to the original manga story, it didn't need to be changed and still stands out to me as one of the best stories (let alone manga) that I have ever read. What I absolutely agree with you on is that they tried to squeeze too much into the film - they should have just ended it with her mourning the kid and strapping on the roller skates as a lead into the next story/film. *I can't remember his name but I do love that actor (supposedly set to play Blade soon) - just as with Jennifer Connelly it was a pointless role that did them no favours and certainly did the film no favours.
Don't talk shit your racist bitch shes the tactical genius that will lead humanity to salvation if she wants to get in a melee fight with a terminator she probably has a good chance to win!
@@alexwest2514 YOU'RE RACIST IF YOU DOESN'T LIKE A HISPANIC GIRL CAN TACKLE A FUCKING ROBOT!!! Bruh it's a terminator, you can't just kill it like a human. I mean Look at first movie Kyle Reese is good at killing terminator it take him a whole movie, and if Kyle had to fight this terminator he just need 10 second.
Seriously a powerful moment for Carl. He made the choice to fight the Rev 9, but for the majority of the movie was following his basic directives. One of which was being unable to self-terminate. At that moment he let go, there was no directive from Skynet to defend them. No reason to because he wanted to. Thus, going against basic programming, he let go and fell. Held Rev-9 down until mutually assured destruction. A decision made not as a machine, but as an individual willingly sacrificing existence to save someone else.
a riveting analysis of this literal pile of dogshit. "going against basic programming, he let go and fell" That's not how that works- He doesn't have a choice and deterministic free will, his "basic programming" is not something he just decides to override one day as if he's kicking a cigarette habit and just needs to try harder- He lets go because it serves the plot and the writers think we're either stupid or are so disenfranchised as to not care at all. Stop dressing up turds in fancy hats, it's clearly a turd.
Say what you want about some of the terminator films but Arnie always brings it. The way he delivers his lines just send goosebumps all down your spine. Legendary actor.
There will never be another movie superstar like Arnie anymore. Too bad, too sad for this crappy generation, this generation doesn't deserves another Arnie
Arnold's scenes were the highlight of this film for me. Guy gave his all for the role, every time! "For John" is a very moving moment in the film and one of the best moments in the franchise. I loved the t-800's journey of redemption in Dark Fate.
you are right but at the same time I feel like instead of dropping himself into the pit with the rev9 he could've just kicked it in the side of the head or the arm and it would've dropped we would've had the same result only with Karl being alive after, you'd think being a machine he'd take the logical approach but nope, had to take the plot point approach
The best things about the movie: 1. Arnold Schwarzenegger and his moments 2. The fight scenes that previous movies didn't really have, they mostly just had gun fighting and fleeing from the Terminator. 3. Sarah/Linda Hamilton
@@darentoh322 bombs wouldve dropped by then lol and damn kyle reese is the most badass protagonist in the terminator franchise imo, wish they did a prequel with him in the 80s/90s
Sarah:Is it over? T-800:No....There are still infected People with COVID 19 John:Who? T-800:points to him self John:o....ok T-800:goodbye T-800:I cannot self clean you must spray me with soap-water (Sprays) T-800-system check all system off........ John:it’s over...
This scene is so sad and emotional to me, not for anything that's actually going on in the scene, but just for how terrible the Terminator franchise has been since T2, it's an absolute tragedy.
@F250Godzilla yes, the models of terminators were amazingly detailed and the t-800 at the end was terrifying, Sam Worthington did brilliantly as Marcus Wright!
@@3TG3645 agree. But in T1 and T2 terminators posed a deadly threat to protagonists. In this movie rev-9 is a glitch robot that likes to be humiliated. It is funny and it can't handle with a tiny 80 lbs girl. And the girl tries to fight back rev-9 with bare hands. Total disaster. You can say that if I don't like it - I should do it better. But I really didn't expect from Cameron that he is in reality a total fraud. Cause he made a giant turd and put it on his legacy.
@@LtFoodstamp You got that with Terminator Salvation. I remember seeing it in the cinema and it was good because Sam Worthington's character was more human than John Connor. Good story, decent action, but it just didn't resonate with auidences. It wasn't as good as T2, but the problem is that they left it too long between T2 and T3. I think the perfect way to continue the Terminator series would be to have a film that takes place in two times. You have the war in the future and you have a present day Terminator inflitrating the modern world to kill Kyle Reese. It should end in the future with Kyle Reese getting sent back through the time portal. Terminator Genysis was terrible because they did too much nonsense with time travel and alternate realities.
The fans don't even know what they want. The franchise ended with T2. You got to see the war, the humans winning, the bad terminator, and the good terminator. You got to see the stopping of Judgment Day and all of the timeline forever changed. There is nothing that can be done at this point that can make a Terminator movie shine as brightly as the first two did. Too many attempts have been made and all have been lackluster.
It's kind of odd. Despite it's initial failure to eliminate Sarah, the T-800 has actually succeeded in assassinating John 3 times. This one got John at the beginning of this movie. The one from T3 admitted to getting John just before it was captured and reprogrammed. And the one in salvation dealt him a fatal blow that should have ended him if not for Marcus donating his heart.
4, if you count Genisys. Pops also succeeded in killing John, although John himself was a Terminator. And although Pops became a T-1000, John's actions let the Skynet of that timeline (The T-5000) to survive. The T-800 is like Skynet's masterpiece, since it fought the T-900, the reprogrammed one from Judgment Day destroyed the T-1000, the T-850 terminated the T-X, Pops fought the original T-800, a T-1000 which was sent by Alex to kill Sarah in 1973. (Alex is the alias for the T-5000) And lastly, John who was already turned into a T-3000 and lastly, Carl fought a Rev-9. Although out of these reprogrammed models, Pops is the most powerful and experienced. Since he's also a T-1000. And fought models superior to anything Legion created. Although nobody should get their hands on Carl's CPU.
I like how this movie tried to use John as cheap bait to tug your heartstrings despite being the same movie that viciously slaughtered him for no reason to try and push a bunch of new characters nobody wound up caring about.
Exactly. Arnold did a great job with what he was given, and even if it's a melthing husk of what he was, it's great to see the T-800 be epic once more.
Let's be Honest, they were going full woke and the public rejected it by giving the makers a nice $112Million loss. A tight $L∆P in the face of the establishment trying force a woke agenda onto an awakened public. The tried to replace John Connor with a female latina lesbian: this is insulting to women and Latinos/Latinas because it's patronizing pandering of the worst kind.
Remember that feeling you got when the T-800 sacrificed himself in order to stop judgement day and save John's life/future back in T2? I felt the exact opposite here for both sacrifices
They ruined that amazing sacrifice with all the movies they made after that. Made it pointless, the kid would be better off if arnold didn't sacrifice himself and instead stayed to protect the kid. Its so Shit because T2 will forever be great with its memorable ending. To me the rest of the movies didn't even happen. It ended at T2 as far as I'm concerned.
How did the Rev9 not immediately crush her throat when it got a hold of her? Later on it rips the T-800's skin apart like it's nothing, so clearly there's still some strength in that arm. Oh wait, I forgot this movie threw all sense out of the window for plot convenience and plot-armor lol
@@volteriaz apparently it is real skin. In T5 specifically, (and maybe some earlier terminator films) Young Sarah tells kyle that the reason why the T-800 was looking as if he was aging was because even though the endoskeleton is machine, the skin is reason, so it ages. Idk why they have like 500 Arnold skins on the terminator but whatever
"For John" would have had the emotional impact and weight it needed if this whole movie (and Genisys) didn't spend the entire runtime disrespecting him and everything he fought for in such an embarrassing manner with such outwardly shameless "We hate you and everything you are" writing overtones.
@@cactusmalone This Terminator still knew how important John was in his timeline as he was sent to kill him. This Terminator learned the value of human life over the years and could possibly feel his own sense of regret for the mission he was programmed to complete. He doesn't need to know John in the same way the other one did in T2 to honour him. It makes sense, I just didn't feel the weight of it due to not really enjoying the film.
Dark Fate is more respectful to T2 than 3, 4 and 5. Those movies make clear that John and Sarah's fight to stop Skynet existing was pointless. Dark Fate is also the only one to remember that Sarah, not John, is the hero of the franchise
@@jamescollinge5043 LOL do you actually believe all that? DF has a scene where Sarah is whining like a child that she was "just a womb" even though they established she was a legend in T1. This movie is garbage and made by people who have absolutely no understanding of the lore and zero respect to the legacy. Shoving Linda Hamilton is this mess for nostalgia's sake cannon hide the sheer awfulness of the new movie. It's an embarrassment and they should honestly stop trying to resurrect the franchise.
@@NorekXtreme clearly you hadn’t dealt with your child being murdered right in front of you. Your view of the world drastically changes and not for the better. She was probably being cynical or simply didn’t care anymore because she lost the one thing that mattered to her.
you can see that the t800 was still able to perform one last function even when it got almost fully melted by this radioactive battery that killed the rev 9, he was able to zoom in for a vision of Zara and this young female character before goin briefly static and then goin "imminent shut down mode". it just shows how durable the t-800 can be
Yeah and you can also see that the T800 was able to perform one last function: a heroic sacrifice into a pit of molten steel to protect John Connor. These movies ended at T2. The rest are franchise rubbish.
He was looking up at Sarah and Dani for forgiveness, for redemption from his terrible sin before he died. You can see that Sarah let out this deep breath as she looked down afterward. She knew that Carl was seeking absolution - and she realized that she actually did grant it to him, as her own important closure from John’s death.
It was a fusion reactor, its power has nothing to do with radioactivity. Fusion is the melding of two like atoms producing the next element on the periodic table. There is a loss of mass in the fusion process, the lost mass being converted to PURE ENERGY. The sun is a giant fusion reactor, fusing hydrogen atoms into helium atoms, with a mass loss, and that mass is converted to pure energy. Example: Fuse two 100 gram parcels of hydrogen atoms into helium atoms. You don't get 200 grams of helium. You get 197 grams. The missing 3 grams was converted to the purest energy, extremely powerful, beyond comprehension.
Arnold is everytime so great! No matter age, no matter what Terminator movie I'm looking.... It's my no. 1 action hero of my life. Breathtaking ending of T-800/T-850...
We’re at the point where you can 1v1 a terminator and really not suffer any consequences. They’re hardly killing machines anymore. Walking plot devices that chase characters from set piece to set piece.
@@Nightweaver1 That seams like a pretty weak angle to take bro. its a literal killing machine whos only job is murdering humans. even at 10% it should be able to snap some little 40 kilo girl in half.
The T-800 has proven time and again to be the most powerful not because it's the most advanced; but because somehow it has a will all it's own; and it WON'T EVER STOP
This scene brought tears to my eyes. If you were born in the 80’s and grew up to these movies, the universal knowledge that John Connor was/is our savior from the Rise of Skynet/Machines/A.I., but was terminated and dismissed…also to see T-800 (Arnold) beating the Rev-9 to a certain extent (which he usually gets handled after an initial attack by models newer, to hear him call back to us the original fans/storyline was sentimental. The fact that I don’t think we will ever see Arnold’s T-800 on screen again because he’s old and may not be around much longer and no one really cares for the franchise after 2 like some of us, so getting another sequel will take awhile if not a reboot outright. Hopefully, I’m wrong but this might be the last time we see our Arnold T-800…😔
@@scientist1417 I think they are making another movie but the rights are going back to the original owner I cant remember his name but yeah look it up on Google 👍
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The T-800 is the perfect metaphor for this franchise
Each new design gets more and more advanced - But you can't beat the original
Except for the fact that T2 is objectively better or at least as good
It's weird since I feel like the old Terminator movies had better CGI and looked more real.
Made in USA, build like a tank, outdated but so reliable
@@jtomtl like the USS Missouri
But in fact, T-800 in order to defeat the advance terminator, he must be to sacrifice after beaten so badly. I feel so bad on the left arm of T800 that has a role to be cut off on the terminator franchise.
When T-800 said "It has to end here" in T2, he actually meant it.
lol
lol I’m back!!
He never said that
@@sadetwizelve What do you mean?
sadetwizelve but he does
But, even after he was melted, Arnold's T-800 had perfect teeth. Next time, build the robot out of teeth.
enamel is the strongest biological material we know of, it’s harder than steel but more brittle. I think it’s much more susceptible to shattering when compared to steel.
@@jared8019 yup, the toughest part of the human body. maybe somebody can make an enamel-coltan-spiderweb composite in the near future to make militarized robots.
Damn T 800 is like those old Nokia phones. Do not break :D
They are in the same matter than Dragon Ball's shorts
The Ts 300 was slightly similar being ceramic endoskeleton, but not made by skynet and made by the Russians
Even in death, John Connor saves humanity by instilling humanity into the T-800.
@@kristelvidhi5038 most people noticed alright, but we still didn't liked the movie
@@kristelvidhi5038 Says the one judging people, plus you haven't seen any terminator movies...
@@henrikmonkee I love how after his first sentence you knew “no hope for this one”
calling the first film boring is a disgrace. Better just to leave it I guess
Wow. That's deep. 🙏
The movie blows
I dont care if its decent film or mediocre one. Every time Arnie does his T-800 things, it gives me goosebumps.
That we can all agree on
He has been the only good thing in this movie with Sarah.
I loved this film, it was, WAY BETTER, than the other movies!
@@xenowilson that's just because you have shit taste nothing wrong with that
@@zenituragaming5043 that’s his opinion. In my opinion it wasn’t as bad as people say but the first and second movies are undoubtedly better.
He still doesn’t have his phase plasma rifle in a 40 watt range
Listen man what’s there is there
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Uzi nine millimetre
wrong ..........shoots him dead
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My God u is rait...
If you ever feel dumb. Just remember this young girl tried to choke a Terminator.
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not a terminator, a Rev- 9
@stinky midget i mean........................... oh fuck it, im not starting an argument with some 11 year old
@@JangoBricks bruh
@@JangoBricks this is the internet anyways 🤷♂️
The T-800 was Skynet's masterpiece. It's not the most advanced nor is it the most dangerous at face value, but its greatest strength is how freaking durable they are combined with their lack of easily exploitable weaknesses. The T-800 being made of non-exotic materials meant they were able to mass produce them too, so Skynet could just throw them at whatever was causing it issues and eventually they would succeed, even in this case where Skynet was erased from history a T-800 still survived for decades past its usual service life to see its mission to completion.
No its cause they used Arnold's face
@@kinbolluck476 yep that's the true reason of the T-800 success
T-850 it is
T-800 sound like a weapon of Soviet Union in WW2. Cheap, durable, can be mass produced, not fancy but get the job done.
It did not survive decades past its service life. Their life is about 120 years. He was only about halfway through his life regardless.
I swear man. T-800s got to be the sturdiest model of killer machines to ever grace the screen.
T2000 is mate
Well, he like an old nokia phone, unbreakable
not the sturdiest,because it cant talk after losing it skin
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@leo no,i really want to
Let’s be honest, T-800 will always be the best and the OG
And I'll always be back lol
Facts
T-850: you got to be kidding me
the one that fell into the t1000 metal. That's the one i want to show up in T2 and just wipe the floor with the T-1000.
That's why after 800. The rest takes on a human form
Are we just gunna ignore the fact that she tried to choke a ROBOT
@@evan1461
true if your gonna hate on this you gotta hate on the avengers to
@@evan1461 Give the link
@@evan1461 And it was just as stupid then as well.
@@TimingSmile yeah, difference is the rest of avengers is actually good, unlike every terminator film past T2
@@traktor420 Salvation wasnt horrible. Probably was the best one after 2
As someone who grew up with T2, that "For John" hits so hard.
Yeah. For me, its like the filmmakers are twisting the knife
Same here. As bad as this movie was arnold is single handedly the best part because he makes moments like this mean something. Like he did in t2
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No
Yes me too, hard in my ballsack
NAh it sucked
*Me only counting Terminator and T2 as the only true canon*
"For John..."
that was tim miller
@Sun Shine Hey there was a whole TV show about Sarah Connor's Chronicles that got cancelled, we still need a season 3 because it was cancelled on a cliffhanger of John teleporting in the future where the war begins
For John
@@simonpro267 YES.
We need a Season 3.
This series is awesome.
The story of the series has to be finished.
@@ronb7728 Well I guess they didn't make a third season because Terminator Salvation could be considered as a sequel to the franchise...?
He should have said "asta la vista baby"but I guess that is a good ending
This T-800 never would have said that. He wasn't the one from T2.
It's spelled hasta dude the h is silent
No we already got that😂 doesn’t make sense either
Yupp
hasta*
The last T-800 was terminated here.Probably we won't be seeing this model anymore. RIP to the one of the best models.
Doubt we will see another Terminator film either.
@Serod Altangerel Genysis timeline is irrelevant for this one.Dark Fate continues after T2.
@Serod Altangerel it's Arnold
Well, sequels to this trash are not happening, that's for sure. I'd rather have Terminator franchise put to rest than... all this
@Serod Altangerel it's the only T800, or even The Only Terminator that completes its task.
I loved this scene because it showed that Carl truly regretted killing Connor
A shame the film makers didn't.
@@stevecavanagh8033Woke lefty's that hate white males blame them for their own failures😂
@@stevecavanagh8033why kill me why I ask😂
There’s so much complexity to Carl’s character arc. He had a single-minded mission to kill John, which meant he could only acquire humanity after he’d accomplished it (and Sarah had already destroyed Skynet’s future existence). With that combination, he eventually gained the perspective that what he had done was wrong, and he had to do something to make up for it. As he told Sarah, “You set me free.”
@@erickleefeld4883Mental gymnastics to cope with how shite this movie is.
With each movie the new terminators are less scary than the last. In the first movie the T-800 was unstoppable, even when blown in half it just kept coming, and that slow but steady progression toward its target was terrifying. Like it doesn't care. It doesn't feel pain. It's a machine sent to kill you, and it will keep trying to do that as long as it can.
T-1000 similarly recreated that terror. An unstoppable machine that can get shot dozens of times and it just keeps coming.
Rev-9 just seems like a regular Hollywood monster, it's big and strong, but it fails to terrify like its predecessors.
It’s the modern sheen to the CGI these types of villains have in the 2010’s type of movies, it all looks the same there’s no uniqueness to it
Cause you seen all before and therefore it’s not scary…. Congrats it means you came to expect the short comings of the terminator series.
The appeal of T-800 and T-1000 were large based on the actors themselves and the movement they brought to the characters, Arnolds slow trudging movements or Robert Patricks deliberate but fluid motions. Each actor really sold the idea of the thing being a machine. The T-1000 also having a nice "Spring loaded" feel where it would slowly pace after its target but would suddenly burst into a full blown sprint. Sadly after these two performances the Terminators afterward relied heavenly on gimmicks and sfx rather then what the actor portraying them could do plus after the T-X the damn things moved to fluidly bringing super fast highly choreographed fighting rather then the slow but powerful robot brawls.
And you tell me that the T-3000 isnt just literally Ultron made of metal shavings
I don't think I agree here. It took a FULL TEAM and some luck to beat Rev9, even after all the damage he took.
Ok one thing it’s waaaay back with what Kyle Reese said to Sarah in the parking lot when trying ditch the terminator . it can’t be bargained with , reasoned with , it doesn’t feel pitty it won’t stop until you are dead! Hence is why through out all the movies villains can take a damn beating & Basically won’t stop until you’re dead plan & simple
The funny thing I find, I suppose the in-universe explaination for why the T-800 was able to defeat every single subsequent model Skynet ever produced is because it learned to be human, to acknowledge it's weaknesses and adapt to it's situation. While every other model after the T-800 has been a hollow, narrow-minded killing machine in most cases.
👍👍👍👍
Exactly. The T-800 will forever will be the best model in and out of universe
He read some Batman comics and was like, "I just need to prepare".
Yeah, every other model was designed with varying degrees of human nature, such as the ability to express or even display emotions (which is great for infiltration, not so much for time-assassins), but Skynet ultimately failed to understand that the big element to human success (and the subsequent effectiveness of the T-800) is our inherent ability to adapt and improve, wether it be our earliest ancestors using fire to ward off the cold and predators, developing agriculture to have a reliable source of food, or any of the millions of innovations we have made to develop ourselves as a species.
This can also explain why the subsequent Terminators had more redundant strategies (disguising themselves, then engaging a target with physical attacks instead of using guns concealed in their chassis), as they were essentially beginning to relish the kill and the completion of their directives like a psychopath torturing an animal before putting it out of their misery (compared to the T-800, which loaded up with half an armory and just shot you as soon as it had a line of sight, only using physical force as a last resort or fighting a Terminator that obviously can’t be brought down with 5.56 NATO).
did u forget every other movie? in t2 they are lucky as fuk to be at that steel mill, sarah tried to shoot him down but the ammo went out, arnold came and shot one last shot and it blew and fell down. in t3 he came right on time with a big as chopper and crashed into the T-x, it got stuck with its legs. arnold tried to hold the door, the tx came crawling after john and arnold grabbed t-x and put his life battery thing in its mouth (they were super lucky both times, otherwise both got their ass kicked). the terminator in T1 could also ackwledge weakness and was not narrow-minded, he even got to sarahs mom, killed her and called sarah to get her hotell adress
remember when Kyle Reece, a trained soldier and expert on fighting Terminators got manhandled by a Terminator? Now we a see a teenage girl taking one down and actually fighting it strength with strength.
And the T-800 is even a weaker model than the Rev-9.
To be fair this terminator was already nearly dead and it was a miracle that it was even still alive at this point
@@TroyTyler much lighter but have far more possibilities. The T-800 is just the same as human, only with metal endoskeleton. Terminators like the T-1000, T-X and Rev-9 can a lot more things do.
@@daco9464 No. The T800 is far stronger than Rev9. The Rev is just quicker.
Yeah but it was severely fucked up at that point tho
The fact that rev 9 instantly died from the explosion but carl or t 800 SURVIVED for a short period. Shows how these killing machines are durable
distance from the explosion point matters.
@@yanbo2u wdym im sorry i dont understand
@@ligma441how do you not get it? The point of explosion is in rev 9’s eyes of course it immediately killed it, while T-800 is more far away
@@RaidLoalMulticraft_YT oh sorry for the false info
@@jamesfoxsmithmy bad!
T-800 still kicks ass till this day. These new models of Terminator can never beat the older generation models.
virgin new generation phones
vs
chad nokia 3310
@@cjm2371 lmao, Nice one!
T800 will always prevail.
"old and obsolete" T800 from Terminator Genesys
@@HorrorNerd1997 "Old NOT obsolete."
I think, most of the ending scene in Terminator movie always end up in a place that looks like a factory 🤣
True
Reza Narendra it was not a factory but a hydropower plant
Lazy writing...
and arnie always gets the short stick
Probably because a factory is one of the only places that has machinery strong enough to mess up a terminator.
The best part is the girl choking the robot
What a smart girl
She is trying to push it out
It's probably instinct or something
what a smart robot choking the girl
Just realize that
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Say what you want about this movie. But when Carl said “For John” while his remaining flesh incinerated, that was awesome. He was an older terminator model and yet he seemed more human than the actual humans.
I dont feel nothing. And im a hesrdcore fan of terminator.
in t2 they straight up say that terminators can learn
Hollywood should let this franchise rest from now on
Hollywood should let any franchise rest...
That would imply that they care about telling a story over making money
Well this movie flopped harder than Genisys did, and Genisys cancelled it's plans for a trilogy after it came out and did so bad. They're probably not going to revive this series again after how bad this movie did unless they can guarantee the movie is going to do well. And with Skynet now gone, it's basically a whole new franchise with Legion.
Maybe so but unfortunately, you can never rule out them making a reboot nowadays 🙄
Terminator just needs someone to tell a good story and have people knock off the T1/T2 bias. The series CAN be great. It just needs help.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of the greatest actors of all time
Absolutely 💯 right ✅ 👏
In a shitty movie 😂
@Golden Owl *A* bomb
He was so great he got into Yu-Gi-Oh
Yes!
T 800:”for John “ Wick, carter, Rambo, cena: “me?”
Connor
@@matthewma6795 yeah he knows
John 117 be like: what about me fuckers?
@@matthewma6795 it was a joke
John Price ;)
4:18 I like how Sarah got the justice she wants for John yet her face clearly says that she is somehow not satisfied.
Rumor has it that the next movie will feature Arnold as he travels back to 2019, shoots whoever green-lit this movie, and then retires from acting to pursue a family life
Deadpool has that time travel thing, if we show him this movie and the one before, maybe he'll doi it for free
And whoever has covid 19...
Why would he shoot who green-lit this movie when the person who green-lit Genysis is still alive?
Basically EVERYONE that involved in the making of the franchise films...minus T1, T2 and Salvation..
Salvation SUCKS. The others were GREAT
Arnie did the 5 knuckle shuffle on the Rev-9: _"For John....Cena"_
I can't see him lol
YOOOOO
"PA PARA PAAAAAA! PA PARA PAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
Yo when he did the 5 knuckle shuffle
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For John? Was that an important character? Because they sure didn't treat him like one.
Edited: Surprised people still comment on this. I'm glad there is true fans of the first 2 terminator films.
It suposed to show his regret, they are basically saying He died a human in his sacrifice.
But the movie was so crap,that It was unwarranted in the narrative and a hit and miss what should had been a poignant moment
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Who is John? hahaha
@Magic Lime 3 kinda is but after that it's just like wtf is this
Well in the first couple movies yes he was important but it was Carl's way of saying sorry to Sarah for killing John
It always makes me cry when he dies in Terminator movies and this one, 🥺
Just remember, Pops didn't die. He fell into a vat of unprogrammed and prototype mimetic pollyalloy. So he's partially a T-1000.
😭same. Like in T2 JD that thumbs up was heartbreaking
@@Dystychip_Derpy He is a unique T-1800 model
@@syler100 He's now the most powerful T-800. Since from "Uncle Bob" in T2. A T-1000 is useless without a CPU, I believe. Something along those lines, and knowing that T-800s have CPUs. Pops is essentially the perfect T-1000.
I won't be back
-The Terminator Franchise
Edit: It’s 2023 now, it is indeed not back
2024 It’s back
I fuckin hope not. They’re shitting on t1 & t2 with these trash ass sequels lmao I stopped watching after number 3 which was dumb as fuck.
"I'll be woke"
Exactly!!
@@MrPHUCKYOURSELF mhmmm but salvation was good and 5 was mediocre! But this woah!….FUCKED IT UP! ALL UP!
@@geoboy700 how? Its an awesome movie
Rev-9 be thinking "Alright, this is bad. I'm severely damaged, I've got almost no mobility left, and there's no way I can repair myself in this time. My only chance of terminating the target is if she gets within melee range and I can break her neck. But there's no way she'd make a dumbass move like that when she clearly has the advantage, right?"
**she runs up and tries to club it with a shotgun**
"Oh..."
and still lost wtf.
But that does sound like something a woman would do..
@Winter Wren I don`t post for likes . I say what I think.
@Winter Wren And that is absolutely fine. You are entitled to that :)
And he couldn't even break her neck...
There is so much wrong with this movie but lets just talk about how that shotgun had 0 kickback to it.
Plot holes
Yes
She kept shooting at his open non-vital ass chest, when she should of been unloading in the head... Then the wrestle scene afterwards...
Also Talk about how she Shoots The Rev 9 at Point Blank and Doesn’t Catch any Shrapnel from The slugs.
Probably a cheat to turn of recoil
The T-800 sacrificing itself without any hesitation gets me everytime
(I know it's a robot but still)
Arnold Schwarzenegger was the only good thing about this movie.
Linda Hamilton?
@@jasonhahn8797 She did fine, especially when grieving for John and wanting to avenge him, but she seemed for lack of a better term tired in this movie where as Arnold Schwarzenegger played the T-800 with the same energy as the past movies which isn't surprising since this is arguably his most iconic role.
@@TheSonOfTheDragon True. I'm sure she was feeling the same way we did about the movie and wished they ended the franchise a long time ago.
@@TheSonOfTheDragon No
He is best in the franchise
Even After Hollywood ruined it
the rev-9 or whatever the fuck kind of model it is comes in at number 5 in my book of the terminator franchise but JUST BARELY
This is actually the first time a good terminator's endoskeleton is fully shown.
Plaguei Boi is it
T1 doesn't exist to you?
@Melvin Cuaresma t1
@@kriss3401 well that terminator wasn't a good guy
Yeah, i'd like to see a spin-off or maybe even a main title with a T-800 endoskeleton as one of the main characters.
So nobody gonna say anything about the fact that the rev-9 had her by the neck for like 5 seconds and did nothing?
Plot Armor Level: 100
Should have been an instant neck break!
@@DIM28073 maybe there's a bug in his software that lowers his squeezing power when he's called "cabron" 😅
@@vladotrajkovski9659 lol! But seriously! Looking back to the first film before the T-800 was inches away from reaching Sarah's neck you already knew how deadly serious it was to complete it's mission even after being blown up twice it kept going. There was legit tension that once it had It's hand on Sarah it was game over. With the Rev-9 you were supposed to be sold that it was the most deadly machine to exist yet it got knocked over by a 120 lbs girl & failed to kill her instantaneously once it had her in it's grasp.
@@DIM28073 remember the scene at the beginning when Grace shot him in the factory, and he had to do that cool standing up thing, and also wait for his face to fully assemble and then started running like crazy.. he could easily started running earlier but noo :) those kind of thing were throwing me off from whole "danger" in the movie
The last scene when Arnold took down the Terminator, he went down like a hero.
he IS The Terminator. you mean, when Arnold took down the Rev-9...
T-850: You Are Terminated.
T-800 '15: Protect My Sarah
T-800 '19: For John.
@ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO im just seeing xxxxxxx
For John
covid 19?
@Ryan Reed covid 19?
@Ryan Reed terminator covid 19. MADE IT IN CHINA lmao
The Terminator is the first two movies. Nothing more and nothing less. The rest of it is just needless. Hollywood's attempt to milk a franchise.
Salvation was pretty good
Your bias will never let it see it otherwise. We know. I liked Terminator 5 and 6, 4 should have been great but fell short, and I will admit, I hate 3 with a passion.
Duo was good for our generation some ways this could be good for the new generation
See you on the next Terminator vid where you say the same thing
Kurtis Thompson haha, seriously.
Remember when the T-X instantly pulverized John's leg with one hand. Remember when machines had actual machine strength that could immediately snap a human neck
Yes...this is what i thinking about😅......
I only like this movie for Arnold Schwarzenegger.... otherwise this is worst movie.....they changing future like magic
LoL the Rev-9 was extremly bad damaged thats why he wasnt able to kill her instantly! Also its one of the strongest Terminators! 👍🏻
@@tumper96 maybe you are right...but still it's not a satisfying answer
Tumper96 wouldn’t the one from genesis be the strongest one ?
Plot twist: someone recovers Carl's chip and builds Skynet instead of Legion.
I imagine them doing that 😂
Good lord don't give them anymore ideas.
1:51 when ur husband is a heavy sleeper and there's a thief in ur house
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
CORAAAAL!
That gave me a good laugh
CORAAAAL
Or alternatively you could learn how to fire a gun.
Dani: "You took everything I had!"
Terminator: *"I don't even know who you are."*
Wait the rev9 knows her
Dani: You will
killed her family, so he must know what is she talking about.
@@sahaysourabh exaclty he asked her father where she is and then coppied him and killed him
@@hx20games77 he also killed her brother Diego when he suicidally crashed into him while Diego was stuck in the pickup truck because of the pile
3:55 Jesus Christ even after all that he was still alive while the Rev-9 was dead. No matter how advanced the Terminators get, they just can't beat the sheer toughness of the good old T-800😌
It's the Volvo of Terminators. Not glamorous, but it's tough and gets the job done.
Like cars.
I agree. It seems that the best was the T-800. For newer doesn’t always mean better.
Can't beat the original!
@@danieldickson8591 Like Androids vs Apple products...the latter may be advanced but Android products can take a serious beating
I dont care what any one says about the Terminator sequels. As long as Arnold is in them, that is all I care about. What a legend he is...
A human can't take down a terminator like that. 1:28
Rev-9's endoskeleton is light ... most of its weight were in the mimetic polyalloy which got destroyed in the turbine explosion
@@eyadabdelfatah3506 Interesting
#womanpower
@@eyadabdelfatah3506 These types of movies are horrible and not tactical in any way and yet you guys try to discuss if she could have killed him lol
If you think this is dumb because a girl tackled a light weight carbon endoskeleton that can barely even stand then watch terminator 1 where a dude lifts/pushes a 600 kilogram titanium t800.
The T800 really likes to kill himself at the end of movies huh?
Expect Genisys
He only killed himself three times..
@@darentoh322 he tried ro kill himself there.
@@thepillowhead2453 no he tried to sacrifice for terminate t 3000 but he accidentally kicked out from time machine and fell into liquid metal
@@darentoh322 soo...same thing idiot.
They should give up trying to create the most lethal terminator ever and just have a movie where Skynet just sends a bunch of obsolete models and crazy weird ideas for terminators. We need a Skynet run by Cave Johnson
"I'm the guy that's gonna burn your house down....with the lemons" hey it might work, just send a shit load of combustible lemons through time instead.
Terminator in a wheelchair, they'll never expect the cripple to be the killer robot in disguise
They should make terminator animals, like a German shepherd or an alligator model.
I want T-400s. I want Fakies!
@@aft5264 In TSCC and T3 lore, Skynet was obsessed with recreating organic life through its machines.
Arnold was the best part of this movie by far and the “For John” bit is one of the only things I really remember from the film.
After watching this movie with my dad, he calmly stood up, slowly turned his head towards me, and in a mimicked Arnold accent uttered, "Boollshith Moovie..." and slowly walked off... Thing is I couldn't disagree...
I like your dad already 😭😂😂
Booty sweat all the way..
That's kinda gay
@@cactusmalone Being gay is kinda gay
Dude what that’s funny I never thought your dad was like stood up to you with Arnie’s accent and walk off like a terminator also I guess your dad may dislike this film and it can’t beat the original two movies
Another movie where Arnold doesn’t have to die. My guy could have just let go and climbed back up
The robot would have follow him
@@mhaideestuudillo7261 he couldve dropped it down, climbed back out of the hole, then kicked it down if it tried to get back up, not rocket science
@@richardhobbs7360 so keep kicking it after it takes out the power core....riiiggghhht
@@Aloha1041 no, he dropped it over the edge and held it there, he could just drop it over the edge and not go down with it, and every time it tries climb back out, just kick it back down
@@richardhobbs7360 but it would get the power core out, thats the problem
I would have preferred if Carl said "For John" as an endoskeleton because I wanted to see how the terminator looks like talking as an endoskeleton
Probably the jaw moving up and down
Yep just like a normal skeleton but without organs and all that stuff
I don't think it can talk as just the exoskeleton. They never have before
@@HaydrogenBomb Yeah cuz then they don't have tongue and lips
If you have watch T4 , John was baited by T800 using Kyle voice and it was in endoskeleton mode. Its jaw didnt move.
The T-800 being the last of it's timeline. Skynet is finally gone for good.
Are we going to ignore the fact that she tackled down a machine 🤣🤣
That fucked me right up inside 😂🤦🏾♂️
I mean you can't disobey Physics even if you're a terminator
Well with the damage the rev 9 sustained and it's mobility problems I could argue that it simply fell off balance when she threw herself into it. Maybe the weight wasn't distributed evenly due to the damage. I'm not sure.
Nobody was going to throw themselves into a T800 though. Even without it's legs and a missing hand in the first Terminator it seemed menacing chasing Sarah Connor before it eventually got crushed in the hydraulic press.
😅
@@wesmel06 To extend this theory a bit further, my headcanon is that the newer terminators are explicitly designed to be more nimble and agile, potentially making them faster and more adaptable than the clunky "slow" T800 module. While the T800s are thick and sturdy, what comes after was designed for maneuvarability, so I assume Rev9 and others models can be toppled/shifted significantly more easily than the T800.
This clip confirms I was right to avoid this film. Feel sorry for Linda Hamilton though, she really deserved better.
She did.
Don’t forget Arnold. They both deserved better especially Arnold.
@@Sirspongeman No, not "especially Arnold". Arnold is at fault for committing to all the shitty movies that devalued the franchise. He is the reason why Linda deserves better. If he had been less greedy saying yes to bad scripts, this dreadful mess would not have been waiting for her when she was finally allowed back.
@Brendan Milburn Cameron is well past his prime, directing and writing. His involvement in this film should have been met with cautious optimism at best - and, as we can now plainly see, he was incapable of saving this suckfest from sucking.
@Brendan Milburn Nooooo, the script for Battle Angel was terrible, just damn terrible - butchered it completely IMHO.
Why did Ido need a wife and daughter?
It actually diminishes the purity of his character significantly for him to need such reasons to be a good person - not to mention the wife was surplus weight the story, I do love Jenn Connely dearly, but no go away from this film please.
And why in the sacred blue fuck did Grewishka need to kill a dog instead of a temporary abduction of the kid which was only to get Alita down into the sewers in the first place.....
Killing the dog reeeeeaaaallllyyy annoyed me more than I can say - if they think that killing a dog is less offensice than a temporary abduction of a child as bait for Alita, I have to say I really hate the writer, and I'd be inclined to worry for any pets they have or come into contact with.
That's not even getting into the hokey talk about evil she was spouting in the bar like a frickin self righteous preacher incapable of doing anything for herself - that entire fight in the bar was utterly pointless and served no purpose in moving the story forward.
Likewise the black guy with sunglasses* was a pointless character who could have just been replaced by Desty Nova completely, instead of acting as a proxy - for that matter why was Nova up in Zalem?
By the end of the film I was under the impression that whoever wrote the script was being deliberately contrary to the original manga story, it didn't need to be changed and still stands out to me as one of the best stories (let alone manga) that I have ever read.
What I absolutely agree with you on is that they tried to squeeze too much into the film - they should have just ended it with her mourning the kid and strapping on the roller skates as a lead into the next story/film.
*I can't remember his name but I do love that actor (supposedly set to play Blade soon) - just as with Jennifer Connelly it was a pointless role that did them no favours and certainly did the film no favours.
A child tackles a Terminator to the ground, holy shit what is this XD
Don't talk shit your racist bitch shes the tactical genius that will lead humanity to salvation if she wants to get in a melee fight with a terminator she probably has a good chance to win!
@@alexwest2514 simp
@@KinggKGU what the fuck my brother, how is he a simp
@@alexwest2514 obviously she didnt she wouldve died if not
for the T800 you know Arnie
@@alexwest2514 YOU'RE RACIST IF YOU DOESN'T LIKE A HISPANIC GIRL CAN TACKLE A FUCKING ROBOT!!!
Bruh it's a terminator, you can't just kill it like a human. I mean Look at first movie Kyle Reese is good at killing terminator it take him a whole movie, and if Kyle had to fight this terminator he just need 10 second.
When he said For john my heart broke😢❤
Why did he kill him? I don’t understand.
@@TheProtagonist2020 because skynet give mission to terminator to kill john after the skynet destroy.. This terminator is free and long live
Seriously a powerful moment for Carl. He made the choice to fight the Rev 9, but for the majority of the movie was following his basic directives. One of which was being unable to self-terminate. At that moment he let go, there was no directive from Skynet to defend them. No reason to because he wanted to. Thus, going against basic programming, he let go and fell. Held Rev-9 down until mutually assured destruction. A decision made not as a machine, but as an individual willingly sacrificing existence to save someone else.
a riveting analysis of this literal pile of dogshit. "going against basic programming, he let go and fell" That's not how that works- He doesn't have a choice and deterministic free will, his "basic programming" is not something he just decides to override one day as if he's kicking a cigarette habit and just needs to try harder- He lets go because it serves the plot and the writers think we're either stupid or are so disenfranchised as to not care at all. Stop dressing up turds in fancy hats, it's clearly a turd.
It didn't self terminate. It was fighting to destroy its new target.
@@TheGothicRichard LOOOL love and hate how u just destroyed that heart touching sentiment about him
@@joes.2331
all it took was 1 sentence lmfao and poof
A machine couldn't have made such a decision against it's programming. This was purely a plot convenience.
Say what you want about some of the terminator films but Arnie always brings it. The way he delivers his lines just send goosebumps all down your spine.
Legendary actor.
Well yeah the best actors can make even the most shitty movies have some good moments
There will never be another movie superstar like Arnie anymore. Too bad, too sad for this crappy generation, this generation doesn't deserves another Arnie
Gay
Disagree. He just goes through the motions. "Old, not obsolete'. Sucky line. "Save my Sarah." LOL, just embarrasing.
@@martinlopez2816 This generation this!, this generation that!
Calm down old man, your generation is really not as grand as you think it was.
Arnold's scenes were the highlight of this film for me. Guy gave his all for the role, every time! "For John" is a very moving moment in the film and one of the best moments in the franchise. I loved the t-800's journey of redemption in Dark Fate.
I think I should watched this whole movie first(
I love this as much as you do, I love the T-800 (Karl) so much in this movie, Arnold always puts a smile on my face
The movie isn't worth this line. Pile of garbage.
you are right but at the same time I feel like instead of dropping himself into the pit with the rev9 he could've just kicked it in the side of the head or the arm and it would've dropped we would've had the same result only with Karl being alive after, you'd think being a machine he'd take the logical approach but nope, had to take the plot point approach
T-800 redeemed himself in Terminator 2.
This scene almost makes cry. It is almost as sad as his prime died on the larva in Terminator 2. Dark Fate is such an underrated Terminator movie.
The best things about the movie:
1. Arnold Schwarzenegger and his moments
2. The fight scenes that previous movies didn't really have, they mostly just had gun fighting and fleeing from the Terminator.
3. Sarah/Linda Hamilton
*only good things
In first two they only fought when they cornered. Fleeing makes most sense imo.
This movie is complete SHIT.
"What day is it? The date?"
"Saturday, January, the 2nd..."
" *WHAT YEAR?* "
"2021"
"Shit. I'm late......"
Coronavirus isn't over
@@darentoh322 bombs wouldve dropped by then lol and damn kyle reese is the most badass protagonist in the terminator franchise imo, wish they did a prequel with him in the 80s/90s
@@RAG3Xboxthen the story will be at future war
@@darentoh322 id watch it
Sarah:Is it over?
T-800:No....There are still infected People with COVID 19
John:Who?
T-800:points to him self
John:o....ok
T-800:goodbye
T-800:I cannot self clean you must spray me with soap-water
(Sprays)
T-800-system check all system off........
John:it’s over...
"Fo' chon" - The Terminator.
@@Antichristredeemer no shit
@@Antichristredeemer r/woosh
Yeah! I too was wondering what he said. I thought he said something in Spanish. LOL!
@@Antichristredeemer get tu da choppa
@@FZuloaga Dillan you sanava bich
I m from that generation who witnessed whole terminator legacy .....proud to be born 80s endure 90s still in 24 ......m in my 37...🎉
I know it would have been cheesy af... But I hoped he said "I won't be back"
That would actually make the scene at last somehow watchable.
Pretty sad when that would've been more original than what they actually did.
He won't, it's woke now
David Higuera
Arnold told already “I won’t be back” when he was saying goodbye to his family before he left his home 🏠
Or if he died with his arm up and middle finger extended
Put him in a bag of rice he’ll be fine.
Underrated
Had me dyjng!
I cackled.
this comment needs more than 351 likes, I wheezed
this deserves some kind of comment award
This scene is so sad and emotional to me, not for anything that's actually going on in the scene, but just for how terrible the Terminator franchise has been since T2, it's an absolute tragedy.
your so right though dark fate has completely ruined the franchise, dont even get me started on genysis!
I liked Rise of the Machines.
Salvation was okay.
@F250Godzilla agreed
@F250Godzilla yes, the models of terminators were amazingly detailed and the t-800 at the end was terrifying, Sam Worthington did brilliantly as Marcus Wright!
Give them a break.. as in the entire world of the terminator,I think it's AWESOME THAT LINDA & ARNOLD TEAMED UP ONE LAST TIME 🖤🤟
Carl became a hero and redeemed himself
Arnold fufills his role like always.
Its funny how she tries to suffocate rev-9.
Rev-9: aackk!! Wait stop it!! Ack!!
Then she yells at it after stabbing it in the face
*how will that help you kill it?
@@lolbosss uh potential intimidation? not sure how that would affect a terminator though
It's the same thing that i would do if i were in her position. It's something to grab, trying to save myself
@@3TG3645 agree. But in T1 and T2 terminators posed a deadly threat to protagonists. In this movie rev-9 is a glitch robot that likes to be humiliated. It is funny and it can't handle with a tiny 80 lbs girl. And the girl tries to fight back rev-9 with bare hands. Total disaster. You can say that if I don't like it - I should do it better. But I really didn't expect from Cameron that he is in reality a total fraud. Cause he made a giant turd and put it on his legacy.
Mom: the soup isn't that hot
you when you taste the soup: 3:54
Lol
Lmao
Aha brilliant
Been there done that
i died. lol
I love how fans have been very vocal and straightforward about what they want in a terminator movie.... and yet Hollywood keeps going "LET'S DO THIS"
Future war. Set mostly night. Plasma rifles. Ending with the defeat of Skynet. No time travel.
It's all anyone ever wanted for T3.
@@LtFoodstamp You got that with Terminator Salvation. I remember seeing it in the cinema and it was good because Sam Worthington's character was more human than John Connor. Good story, decent action, but it just didn't resonate with auidences.
It wasn't as good as T2, but the problem is that they left it too long between T2 and T3.
I think the perfect way to continue the Terminator series would be to have a film that takes place in two times.
You have the war in the future and you have a present day Terminator inflitrating the modern world to kill Kyle Reese. It should end in the future with Kyle Reese getting sent back through the time portal.
Terminator Genysis was terrible because they did too much nonsense with time travel and alternate realities.
The fans don't even know what they want. The franchise ended with T2. You got to see the war, the humans winning, the bad terminator, and the good terminator. You got to see the stopping of Judgment Day and all of the timeline forever changed.
There is nothing that can be done at this point that can make a Terminator movie shine as brightly as the first two did. Too many attempts have been made and all have been lackluster.
IMO this movie gave fans almost everything they asked for, it tried to replicate elements of T1 and T2, but still was mediocre
@@imcallingjapan2178 Nobody asked for John Connor to be killed off.
It's kind of odd. Despite it's initial failure to eliminate Sarah, the T-800 has actually succeeded in assassinating John 3 times. This one got John at the beginning of this movie. The one from T3 admitted to getting John just before it was captured and reprogrammed. And the one in salvation dealt him a fatal blow that should have ended him if not for Marcus donating his heart.
4, if you count Genisys. Pops also succeeded in killing John, although John himself was a Terminator. And although Pops became a T-1000, John's actions let the Skynet of that timeline (The T-5000) to survive.
The T-800 is like Skynet's masterpiece, since it fought the T-900, the reprogrammed one from Judgment Day destroyed the T-1000, the T-850 terminated the T-X, Pops fought the original T-800, a T-1000 which was sent by Alex to kill Sarah in 1973. (Alex is the alias for the T-5000) And lastly, John who was already turned into a T-3000 and lastly, Carl fought a Rev-9.
Although out of these reprogrammed models, Pops is the most powerful and experienced. Since he's also a T-1000. And fought models superior to anything Legion created. Although nobody should get their hands on Carl's CPU.
I love how he's just like:
No. Lay back down.
3:01
And the rev 9 is like: ok
I like how this movie tried to use John as cheap bait to tug your heartstrings despite being the same movie that viciously slaughtered him for no reason to try and push a bunch of new characters nobody wound up caring about.
I'm guessing you meant "like" sarcastically. ;-)
@@danieldickson8591 ????
Exactly. Arnold did a great job with what he was given, and even if it's a melthing husk of what he was, it's great to see the T-800 be epic once more.
Let's be Honest, they were going full woke and the public rejected it by giving the makers a nice $112Million loss. A tight $L∆P in the face of the establishment trying force a woke agenda onto an awakened public. The tried to replace John Connor with a female latina lesbian: this is insulting to women and Latinos/Latinas because it's patronizing pandering of the worst kind.
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Remember that feeling you got when the T-800 sacrificed himself in order to stop judgement day and save John's life/future back in T2? I felt the exact opposite here for both sacrifices
They ruined that amazing sacrifice with all the movies they made after that. Made it pointless, the kid would be better off if arnold didn't sacrifice himself and instead stayed to protect the kid. Its so Shit because T2 will forever be great with its memorable ending. To me the rest of the movies didn't even happen. It ended at T2 as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, I cried. I was 12.
@@BlackendVenom Arnold lived at the end of Genisys. Though he was now a t 1000 and nobody knew where he came from or who sent him or why.
Its like Heroine, the first few times is the best then youre just chasing it
Its best to just think of Terminator movies as alternate universes.
Camerons Spirit of Terminator 2 was in this Movie. Thank you for that JC!
How did the Rev9 not immediately crush her throat when it got a hold of her? Later on it rips the T-800's skin apart like it's nothing, so clearly there's still some strength in that arm.
Oh wait, I forgot this movie threw all sense out of the window for plot convenience and plot-armor lol
plotarmor
The scenes are not necessarily in sync, that is T-800 must have hold Rev9’s hand immediately he got hold of her
Now that wouldn't be woke, would it? 🤣🤣
It isn't real skin, it's just there to cover the endoskeleton so it wouldn't be as tuff
@@volteriaz apparently it is real skin. In T5 specifically, (and maybe some earlier terminator films) Young Sarah tells kyle that the reason why the T-800 was looking as if he was aging was because even though the endoskeleton is machine, the skin is reason, so it ages.
Idk why they have like 500 Arnold skins on the terminator but whatever
3:28 Goosebumps scene
Frfr
More like "Skydance kills the Terminator franchise"
She’s a jerk
Gonna need a class 5 time machine for that burn
It wasn’t nearly as bad as many are voicing
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@@Fat_Vegan it was worse
When you never cry, but Schwarzenegger succeeds 🎬❤️
I won’t lie, “Protect my Sarah” made me cry too
"For John" would have had the emotional impact and weight it needed if this whole movie (and Genisys) didn't spend the entire runtime disrespecting him and everything he fought for in such an embarrassing manner with such outwardly shameless "We hate you and everything you are" writing overtones.
@@cactusmalone This Terminator still knew how important John was in his timeline as he was sent to kill him. This Terminator learned the value of human life over the years and could possibly feel his own sense of regret for the mission he was programmed to complete. He doesn't need to know John in the same way the other one did in T2 to honour him.
It makes sense, I just didn't feel the weight of it due to not really enjoying the film.
Dark Fate is more respectful to T2 than 3, 4 and 5. Those movies make clear that John and Sarah's fight to stop Skynet existing was pointless. Dark Fate is also the only one to remember that Sarah, not John, is the hero of the franchise
@@jamescollinge5043 LOL do you actually believe all that? DF has a scene where Sarah is whining like a child that she was "just a womb" even though they established she was a legend in T1. This movie is garbage and made by people who have absolutely no understanding of the lore and zero respect to the legacy. Shoving Linda Hamilton is this mess for nostalgia's sake cannon hide the sheer awfulness of the new movie. It's an embarrassment and they should honestly stop trying to resurrect the franchise.
@@NorekXtreme yeah and yet people were being shill to defend bad movies without taking actual criticsm seriously
@@NorekXtreme clearly you hadn’t dealt with your child being murdered right in front of you. Your view of the world drastically changes and not for the better. She was probably being cynical or simply didn’t care anymore because she lost the one thing that mattered to her.
you can see that the t800 was still able to perform one last function even when it got almost fully melted by this radioactive battery that killed the rev 9, he was able to zoom in for a vision of Zara and this young female character before goin briefly static and then goin "imminent shut down mode". it just shows how durable the t-800 can be
Yeah and you can also see that the T800 was able to perform one last function: a heroic sacrifice into a pit of molten steel to protect John Connor.
These movies ended at T2. The rest are franchise rubbish.
He was looking up at Sarah and Dani for forgiveness, for redemption from his terrible sin before he died. You can see that Sarah let out this deep breath as she looked down afterward. She knew that Carl was seeking absolution - and she realized that she actually did grant it to him, as her own important closure from John’s death.
It was a fusion reactor, its power has nothing to do with radioactivity. Fusion is the melding of two like atoms producing the next element on the periodic table. There is a loss of mass in the fusion process, the lost mass being converted to PURE ENERGY. The sun is a giant fusion reactor, fusing hydrogen atoms into helium atoms, with a mass loss, and that mass is converted to pure energy. Example: Fuse two 100 gram parcels of hydrogen atoms into helium atoms. You don't get 200 grams of helium. You get 197 grams. The missing 3 grams was converted to the purest energy, extremely powerful, beyond comprehension.
3:34 For John.
Arnold is everytime so great! No matter age, no matter what Terminator movie I'm looking.... It's my no. 1 action hero of my life. Breathtaking ending of T-800/T-850...
We’re at the point where you can 1v1 a terminator and really not suffer any consequences. They’re hardly killing machines anymore. Walking plot devices that chase characters from set piece to set piece.
every new terminator movie was like
THE NEW ONE IS STRONGER THE HERO GONNA DIE HAHA
still get killed by t800 -_-
The Rev-9 had also been severely damaged by the turbine in this scene and was only probably operating at a fraction of its original capacity.
@@Nightweaver1 That seams like a pretty weak angle to take bro. its a literal killing machine whos only job is murdering humans. even at 10% it should be able to snap some little 40 kilo girl in half.
@@bobw1678 Some of it is probably just bad filmmaking. I like the movie but I'm not going to pretend they didn't BS their way through some parts.
Theyr'e Cybernetic Annoying Machines at this point.
Honestly the "for John" is the best part of this movie.. gives me the "you are TERMINATED" vibes
4:31 How it feels to watch this movie
Lol I though it was more like how John felt at the start of the movie...
Nicholas Chen Ii
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Nicholas Chen hey, the movie was good
@@BamBam-3886 awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Terminator:_Dark_Fate
The T-800 has proven time and again to be the most powerful not because it's the most advanced; but because somehow it has a will all it's own; and it WON'T EVER STOP
They never fail to destroy Arnold's face just enough to have one of his terminator eye's be revealed.
I cried when Carl said for john
1:56 Seriously? Did she try to choke a terminator? 😂
This scene brought tears to my eyes. If you were born in the 80’s and grew up to these movies, the universal knowledge that John Connor was/is our savior from the Rise of Skynet/Machines/A.I., but was terminated and dismissed…also to see T-800 (Arnold) beating the Rev-9 to a certain extent (which he usually gets handled after an initial attack by models newer, to hear him call back to us the original fans/storyline was sentimental.
The fact that I don’t think we will ever see Arnold’s T-800 on screen again because he’s old and may not be around much longer and no one really cares for the franchise after 2 like some of us, so getting another sequel will take awhile if not a reboot outright.
Hopefully, I’m wrong but this might be the last time we see our Arnold T-800…😔
Trust me he might need another house add on
2:31 me *when pizza is at the door*
Lol
I laughed way more than I should've. 🤣
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What up guys glad I could make you laugh 👍🏻
LOL i almost die 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you made my day
“I won’t be back”
- Arnold
I actually almost cried at this scene, f in the chat
Donde me puedo ver esta película .
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I got emotional but then remembered that he dies in T2 so they just going another retread
"For John"
T-800's last word
Until they make another movie and the entire of this story line is null and void... like all the rest lol.
@@scientist1417 I think they are making another movie but the rights are going back to the original owner I cant remember his name but yeah look it up on Google 👍
The sad part is Carl is the last T-800 in existence and the last trace of skynet did he really have to die
Two words.
I bet the other terminator will be called terminator return of carl and the movie is arnold being back
I grow up with these kinds of movies, Terminator, Rocky, Jackie Chan movies, and i always come back to them to remember to never give up