I didn't think there would be an uncanny valley for snow, but as a Canadian, that snow is definitely in it. It's the motion. Like an animated doll. Like Wren said, snow up to your chest, unless it's the driest, lightest snow fallen with no wind, snow is hard as hell to walk through.
What got my attention first was the poles they were carrying, they just passed through the snow like it didn't exist. People forget snow is a solid, not a liquid.
Whoever edited this has me in tears. The adult ping pong smack? The repeated Patrick Stewart interactions with niko.png? Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
@@ThomasMorris55 The season was great. Calm before the storm and building and deepening each of the hashira. With the context of the rest of the series from now onwards, it is perfect.
@@rome8180 And probably more adults than kids watched the movie to begin with, actually have never seen those movies marketed as kids movies but as just comedies in general they weren't even in the kids section of video stores.
@@SoloGamingZA with time I'd agree, but those were kids movies. we would watch them multiple times because we didn't have streaming or a huge selection. just what we owned or rented. every tape got watched like 30 to 40 times.
The DS9 episode was such a huge deal, I remember a bunch of news segments about it, from when I was a kid, because they wanted to just rightfully brag about the work behind it.
It wasn't just a technical achievement, either. The writing, acting, and humor in that episode are all outstanding. They also built new physical models of the original Enterprise and starbase. Not so surprising how expensive it was all things considered, but it also showed what was possible combining old footage with new.
Fun fact that only means anything to me: one of the only full episodes I ever saw of the original Star Trek was “Trouble with Tribbles” as a kid. A decade or so later, one of the only full episodes I ever saw of Deep Space Nine was the episode where they go back in time to the Tribbles episode event. Good times!
When I saw the explosion in DS... my first thought was "whoa" and my second thought was "gonna keep an eye out for CC to react" cause this ticks all the boxes for good explosion, they even keep the shockwave interaction with the characters.
@jwdell5 both sides for me. Their Animation experts are incredible. Stunt work? Where are more Stuntpeople React? I need more broken bone stories! Still, all of Wren's reaction shots are destined for a supercut.
The cool thing with the ST:DS9 episode is that when trying to get the episode approved, special effects director Gary Hutzel showed what appeared to be a clip from the original episode to Ron Moore and Ira Behr, then pointed out that he had digitally edited in an extra actor. Having no idea that the footage had been edited in any way, the two were stunned and greenlit the episode on the spot.
I think they did a really good job on that scene, tho as an animator my one point is that the FX to me looked a little too realistic and brought me out of the show. Suddenly felt like I was watching a live action explosion comparted to how stylized the rest of the show was. I think what would have made it perfect would be if they had been able to edit things to match the shows style more. Otherwise it was an amazing scene!
@@Bendylifeufotable has always used alot of cgi for demon slayer. The backgrounds, many effects, creatures etc. I can see how this looked way too real with full blown cgi but cgi has been apart of the world of demon slayer and that shouldnt look too off
@solaramv Oh trust me, I have noticed lol I'm super cool with 3d mixed with 2D when done really well. It has brought me out of the show before at some points and I've loved it at others. This scene I had both. The scene inside was amazing, but outside felt like a different show. Style consistency can be really important and honestly shouldn't be broken unless there is a specific reason that will elevate the story. I think the director wanted a huge epic scene and the easiest way was to use 3D, but I think it could have been better had that 3D been better tailored to the rest of the shows style. 🫡
The work that was done on digitizing the "Trouble with Tribbles" episode led to them deciding to digitize all of the original episodes. So you can thank the production of this one DS9 episode with them releasing the HD version of the original show.
Part of that I think was spurred by the reaction of everyone that saw it. Throughout the episode you're watching the remastered Trouble With Tribbles. Outside of a few people that had watched the actual film masters, no one had ever seen it look that good before. They already had the process set up, so they probably figured they could make some of the money back on digitizing all of TOS. Not to mention the preservation of what were nearly 40 year old film masters at the time.
Ironically, we're still a long way from getting an HD remaster of Deep Space Nine itself, since the series was conformed in standard-def video, with no final versions of the episodes existing on 35mm like with TOS. Yes, Next Generation was scanned from original elements and completely recompiled for its HD release, but that project was colossally expensive and not nearly profitable enough.
Oh they knew - they knew had they not done that us Trekkies would have, rightfully, ripped Niko to shreds! So glad they covered this, one of the greatest Trek episodes ever. Just watched it a few days ago during my 37th rewatch of DS9 :D
As a person with no filmmaking experience but loves your videos, I would deeply appreciate an episode devoted to explaining some key terms. From the most basic (compositing, rotoscoping) to the more advanced (360 camera). Maybe even talk about some of the programs that people use to make these things bc I'm completely unfamiliar with the software. Anyway, love yinz!
You missed the most complex shot in the _Star Trek_ episode when Jadzia Dax was walking around in the background of the bridge. What made this so complicated is that the original footage was a panning shot with another character walking through the set, so they not only had to match move the camera perfectly, but the actress playing Dax also had to time her movements so she wouldn't interfere with the extra in the original footage! I think it needed something like two dozen takes to get it right, but the final result is seamless.
Loved this episode! Been a huge fan and subscriber of you guys for about five years now and just need to say how much I appreciate everything you do. Watching this episode on a chill Sunday morning felt like hanging out with friends. Really genuine stuff and thank you again for everything!
Biggest giveaway of the fake snow was how fluid it was. Like more than a foot from the actors the snow is moving, rippling like a thick fluid not like snowm
The only way that I can make a comment is by replying, so I had to look for a snow related comment to reply on LOL you can obviously tell they are definitely not in any snow or any type of material whatsoever, look at the polls, specifically when they move the polls around in the so-called snow and when they push them into the snow, the snow around the polls do not move at all, showing that it is put in after post
@@beussta they said it was from the newest episode, and there was a few seconds before anything happened. I feel like you had enough time to skip ahead
That just brought back memories. I watched deep space 9 with my father forever ago and I forgot almost all of it. So seeing that episode again brought back memories I’d forgotten.
That DS9 episode blew my mind back then. All my friends were like "uh, it's easy, you can do anything with computers these days." I feel so vindicated.
That Deep Space 9 episode was SO COOL back in the day. I watched it on its release and, one of the things you didn't explicitly mention, was how freaking well they matched the color grade of the original film. There's something about the characteristics of color film and grain from that era that the DS9 folks matched perfectly when compositing their characters in. I LOVED that episode and thanks so much for covering it.
Yeah. You can tell the color film of that time didn't reproduce the real world colors very accurately. They had to somehow match the wrongness of the color film to match it.
I've barely seen DS9 but When I heard about this episode I knew I had to watch it! I love a good Star Trek time travel episode and this is one of the great ones simply due to the amount of commitment for it!
this is one of the best UA-cam series to exist. ive been watching it for a long time now and i always learn new stuff! i love it! keep up the good work
Wren's comments about the Dark Matter actors not reacting to resistance in the snow scene reminds me of every time I see an actor take a drink from a cup and you can just tell by the way they move that the cup is empty. Just put in some liquid to help sell it.
@@donrumata369 Are you telling me you don't play video games by violently pressing every button on your knock-off controller while unrelated pew pew laser sounds blast off?
same with the "entire plate of food that they push around instead of eating" or "magically regenerating cigarettes" between shots lol. But aye, as Brit tea drinker, can absolutely spot an empty mug a mile off.
@@SA80TAGE i understand during simple shots, but if there is any length of dialogue or any risk of having to take multiple shots...combined with multiple similar scenes shot in one day your actors would get full REAL quick
The snow shots look like fire fighting foam. You can also see the tell-tale fuzziness between the snow and actors that says "composited". That explosion was wicked!
@@kevinandrewsphoto Bro, I can relate to this because the story isn't great and is filled with plot holes, but the animation and action are top-notch.
@@kevinandrewsphoto There were many episodes of exposition in the first season and a few episodes of great fights especially towards the end... second and third season are a few scenes of exposition and tons of excellent fights - not the usual rinse-n-repeat shonen padded fights buts actually evolving situations going out of control with well directed visuals... by the forth season we're just glad of the breather to enjoy some less high-stakes action sequences with an ending to get to you hyped for the upcoming future film trilogy. So if you felt the storytelling was okay and just wanted more action, more interesting settings and snappier pacing then it'll be worth it. If you're tired of the characters, the style of dialogue and occasional drop to comedic touches then it might still irritate you.
I thought I was the only one to comment on that explosion scene in Demon Slayer I'm so happy you guys enjoyed it like I did! The show does a lot of masterful cg/animation blends throughout. I spent like 5 minutes playing back a 30 second snippet because the water sim for a river in the background was so beautiful 😅 in a time anime is leaning more and more on cg in a lazy way that degrades the product it's so cool to see it used in conjunction with traditional animation to ELEVATE the product.
The snow shot, I immediately knew what was wrong. I live in a country that gets quite a lot of snow (or at least used to when I was a child) and I know EXACTLY how hard it is to even push a shovel through it, not least a whole body. Even walking through like half a meter high snow (that's half a yard) is HARD. I've even been to an avalanche training and the first thing they'll tell you it's impossible to dig yourself out of snow because you're pretty much stuck in it.
Super fluffy snow that can be walked through like in the Dark Matter clip is possible but it's pretty rare because normally the weight of the snow compacts together or the temperature goes up to melt the snow slightly. What really through the clip off was how the granular bits of snow was moving because it looked more like sand then snow.
@@mightheal Yeah, it has to be totally still for powdery snow like that to form because even the lightest wind packs it up quickly. Large areas and frozen areas like seas are almost always not covered in snow. Snow they have in the show could never exist in a place like that.
@@mightheal I would think the weight of 4-5 feet of snow would compact it no matter how fluffy it was when it started out, right? The snowiest place I've lived was Chicago, and we never got more than two feet of snow, and it was usually wet snow, so I honestly don't know. But it just seems like basic physics to me. I definitely agree with you about the granularity. The reason we can walk through a ball pit is because the balls stay separate. It's the same thing with sand, only grains of sand are much smaller so there's less space between them, making it harder. Snow, however, tends to fuse together in a way sand doesn't. Having them walk through a ball pit would have helped, but honestly the whole premise of the scene was flawed to begin with.
@@rome8180 I've seen a old video of a woman jumping off her backyard steps into like 5 feet of fluffy snow and disappear like she jumped in water and proceed to jump around in it. So applying that video to the clip the main difference between the two was how the snow didn't compact with the actors interacting with the snow and how the granular bits of snow moved more like a liquid then like a sticky sand.
There was just an ingenuity to the work in those days when there wasn't a belief that things could be brute forced in post using computers. Which is why the Dark Matter clip was so relevant. Good episode.
Another problem with the snow shot is that the motion of the actors affects too much of the snow - the radius from them. Snow is pretty heavy and dense and has very little compressive strength, meaning if you push into it, the area you are pushing into will tend to compress rather than transmit your motion outward. In other words, snow a few inches away from your moving arm will compress a bit, but the snow any further than that will not move at all. In this clip, snow much further away from their moving limbs is being disturbed. This makes the snow feel more like some kind of semi-fluid plastic than real snow.
This was really the main problem with that scene but it is possible to have that amount of fluffy snow that you can walk through because I've seen a old home video clip of a woman jumping in fluffy snow as high as this Dark Matter clip and just disappear like she just jumped in water.
@@user666mega You have to keep in mind that the animator was forced to use a consistency of snow that matched the speed at which the actors were moving. It was likely he had a ton of reference data but his hand was forced to make really fluid snow in the sim because the actors were just moving too fast in the original shot.
I didn't realize you guys hadn't done the Tribble episode before. It was top tier for it's time. Also, thank God the editor made proper fun of Niko for not knowing his Star Trek shows.
@@stevencramsie9172 I think I've replied to you before, shooting your suggestion down because it would be too similar to Forrest Gump (which is what inspired the DS9 episode in the first place), meaning they'd just be retreading old ground with their reaction... so that's me proven wrong! It's a shame they didn't cover one of the moments that's always impressed me the most, there's a fantastic tracking of shot of Terry Farrell walking on the Enterprise bridge, the camera motion is all from the TOS episode and it's pretty seamless.
13:38 1) I had the same reaction when *I* first saw this in 2000. "(channel flipping) Oh cool, TOS! This'll do. ... WAIT IS THAT O'BRIEN!?! Ohhhh it's this ep!!" and 2) I love Wren
Loved that you included the Demon Slayer explosion. I'm not up to date on it, but my BF is and he showed me this explosion just because of how crazy good it looked. Some great fire work in Demon Slayer
From IMDB for Honey I Blew up the Kid: "Actor Alex Daniels portrayed Adam in his "blown-up" form (he is credited as "Uncle Yanosh"). Daniels wore a 40-pound, electronic-headed "Adam suit" for the role, and was coached on how to mimic the movements of a toddler. Once suited up on the set, Daniels had to magnify his movements so they would show through the costume's heavy, clumsy folds. Occasionally, the heat inside the outfit proved too much for its coolant system, a vest with ice water pumped through tubes, prompting crew members who noticed Daniels faltering to yell, 'Get Alex outta there!'"
So glad yall looked at Demon Slayer! If you haven’t watched any other episodes there are small moments that they go to full cgi backgrounds and it’s so cool to see that talked about!!
Now that India has improved a lot in it's VFX with movies like Brahmastra, Kalki, Hanu-man and Fighter, I would really love to see you guys react to these movies! Love from India 🇮🇳
UFOTable's compositing is God-Tier. Even in the most mundane episodes I find myself pausing to marvel at how well the 2D and 3D elements blend seamlessly. It galls me when people say stupid shit like *all* CG in anime is horrible when half the time they don't even know they're looking at CG elements.
@@WillWilsonthesafetyguy even when well done, 3D + 2D looks weird to me. Even for UFOTable's that do a remarkable work or high budget movies. I prefer either full 3D or full 2D.
@@WillWilsonthesafetyguy Yup and that's where the strength of this show comes from, the consistant high quality animation, story is very simple, but when executed like this it's really amazing.
@@Donovanthyes, the art, which is so vibrant when it needs to be, but not overly so the entire time, the clash of old Japanese painting for breathing arts and the use of modern techniques and technology
This might be one of my favorite episodes. You guys have done just because of the Star Trek stuff and Nico. It’s so funny. To the editor of this episode genius.
Suggestion, you guys should a small segment comparing the VFXs from trailers to the final product and see where it goes from there. So many changes that introduces discussion (from landscape to props)
You made me think so too, it’s just a chest occluding his leg that is almost the same color as the floor though. It is probably used to hide a cut in the set though
3:32 "We don't say the 'N-word' around two year olds." Kid: "JIG-GA-BOO!!!!" .... AAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I forgot how hard this movie went. God I miss the good old days. Kids today have NO IDEA what it was like for us growing up.
I didn't think there would be an uncanny valley for snow, but as a Canadian, that snow is definitely in it. It's the motion. Like an animated doll. Like Wren said, snow up to your chest, unless it's the driest, lightest snow fallen with no wind, snow is hard as hell to walk through.
Looks more like quicksand to me
Even the lightest snow would compress under its own weight at that depth.
People seriously underestimate how **heavy** snow is.
What got my attention first was the poles they were carrying, they just passed through the snow like it didn't exist. People forget snow is a solid, not a liquid.
It looks like mashed potatoes when they do the top down visual. lol
Your editor killed it in the Star Trek Enterprise section of the video
I was about to eat my physical keyboard and the editor saved me the money for a new one.
If you're the editor and you're reading this. Thanks bro. was tweaking here. didnt even know that was a trigger for me
editor killed it!
@@Isnogood12cringe
@@Isnogood12 Sit down, kid. With your physical keyboard...
The shotgun type "smack" when the adult is hitting the ball pretending to be the kid had me rolling.
Loved that😂
The fact they kept doing it! It got funnier every time
was about to comment that lol
He wasnt even trying to match the kid. He was just hamming on it that paddle 😭
the exact moment i looked down in the comments, if anyone else found that hilarious :D wasn't disappointed!
Whoever edited this has me in tears. The adult ping pong smack? The repeated Patrick Stewart interactions with niko.png? Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
Yeah the ending was amazing. Even down to the community sound bite
The Demon Slayer explosion was the most beautiful thing i've ever seen.
shame the season was WACK!
@@ThomasMorris55 The season was great. Calm before the storm and building and deepening each of the hashira. With the context of the rest of the series from now onwards, it is perfect.
@@ThomasMorris55 the latest episode was by far the show's greatest episode in many aspects.
"We don't say the N-word around 2-year-olds." it took me a sec to remember the context being "nap" but without context that's just crazy 😂
I mean, they were clearly going for that confusion. It was an off-color joke that you wouldn't see in a kid's movie these days.
@@rome8180 And probably more adults than kids watched the movie to begin with, actually have never seen those movies marketed as kids movies but as just comedies in general they weren't even in the kids section of video stores.
@@SoloGamingZA with time I'd agree, but those were kids movies. we would watch them multiple times because we didn't have streaming or a huge selection. just what we owned or rented. every tape got watched like 30 to 40 times.
Terminator 2 was a kid's movie back then, I watched it when I was 6 and had Terminator toys lol
You have to consider that there are far more adults than kids, so it is likely more adults go see it even if it seems more targeted at kids.
Props to Niko for not deleting all his socials and disappearing after that Star Trek mix up. So brave.
Trek fans ain’t that bad compared to Star Wars ones
Anakin blew up the Death Star
@@blackdynamite_5470 Yeah, but somehow Palpatine returned
lol
@@blackdynamite_5470I mean maybe
The DS9 episode was such a huge deal, I remember a bunch of news segments about it, from when I was a kid, because they wanted to just rightfully brag about the work behind it.
It wasn't just a technical achievement, either. The writing, acting, and humor in that episode are all outstanding. They also built new physical models of the original Enterprise and starbase. Not so surprising how expensive it was all things considered, but it also showed what was possible combining old footage with new.
It was one of the gifts we were given for Star Trek’s 30th anniversary
@@OscarFowler That was very insightful. Thank you!
The amount of work and care put into maintaining coherent visual worldbuilding was appreciated. I miss it.
@@OscarFowler THIS - while it's a great "gimmick" they did SOOOO much more with it than just that. Truly one of the greatest Trek episodes ever.
Fun fact that only means anything to me: one of the only full episodes I ever saw of the original Star Trek was “Trouble with Tribbles” as a kid. A decade or so later, one of the only full episodes I ever saw of Deep Space Nine was the episode where they go back in time to the Tribbles episode event. Good times!
When I saw the explosion in DS... my first thought was "whoa" and my second thought was "gonna keep an eye out for CC to react" cause this ticks all the boxes for good explosion, they even keep the shockwave interaction with the characters.
As much as I love it when they bring guests on their show, I also love it when it’s just the crew!
Seeing Sam watch that explosion made my day.
I actually very much prefer when its them only
@jwdell5 both sides for me. Their Animation experts are incredible. Stunt work? Where are more Stuntpeople React? I need more broken bone stories! Still, all of Wren's reaction shots are destined for a supercut.
Specially these three. Also I miss Clint.
Same!
The cool thing with the ST:DS9 episode is that when trying to get the episode approved, special effects director Gary Hutzel showed what appeared to be a clip from the original episode to Ron Moore and Ira Behr, then pointed out that he had digitally edited in an extra actor. Having no idea that the footage had been edited in any way, the two were stunned and greenlit the episode on the spot.
That explosion is one of the reason why that particular episode of Demon
Slayer is the highest rated anime episode atm.
I think they did a really good job on that scene, tho as an animator my one point is that the FX to me looked a little too realistic and brought me out of the show. Suddenly felt like I was watching a live action explosion comparted to how stylized the rest of the show was. I think what would have made it perfect would be if they had been able to edit things to match the shows style more. Otherwise it was an amazing scene!
That whole section/interaction felt a little too "real" and broke immersion a little bit. Still looks cool as all get out though
@@Bendylifeufotable has always used alot of cgi for demon slayer. The backgrounds, many effects, creatures etc. I can see how this looked way too real with full blown cgi but cgi has been apart of the world of demon slayer and that shouldnt look too off
@solaramv Oh trust me, I have noticed lol I'm super cool with 3d mixed with 2D when done really well. It has brought me out of the show before at some points and I've loved it at others. This scene I had both. The scene inside was amazing, but outside felt like a different show.
Style consistency can be really important and honestly shouldn't be broken unless there is a specific reason that will elevate the story. I think the director wanted a huge epic scene and the easiest way was to use 3D, but I think it could have been better had that 3D been better tailored to the rest of the shows style. 🫡
Tbf, Ufotable's CGI tech is the main reason why their animation/production being so fast and consistent
The second I saw that explosion in Demon Slayer I knew I wanted a breakdown. Thank you for not making me wait long lol
so happy to see you guys looking at ufotables work! They make some of my favorite anime scenes and their cgi use has only gotten better and better
The work that was done on digitizing the "Trouble with Tribbles" episode led to them deciding to digitize all of the original episodes. So you can thank the production of this one DS9 episode with them releasing the HD version of the original show.
Part of that I think was spurred by the reaction of everyone that saw it. Throughout the episode you're watching the remastered Trouble With Tribbles. Outside of a few people that had watched the actual film masters, no one had ever seen it look that good before. They already had the process set up, so they probably figured they could make some of the money back on digitizing all of TOS. Not to mention the preservation of what were nearly 40 year old film masters at the time.
I don’t like the remaster edition with the new effects. Part of the charm of the show was the campiness whether the bad stunt work or the effects.
@@brianng8350 yep, but the only issue I have with that is the new stuff. The better images are good, imo.
Ironically, we're still a long way from getting an HD remaster of Deep Space Nine itself, since the series was conformed in standard-def video, with no final versions of the episodes existing on 35mm like with TOS. Yes, Next Generation was scanned from original elements and completely recompiled for its HD release, but that project was colossally expensive and not nearly profitable enough.
@@thork6974 The fact we might never get an HD remaster of DS9 or Voyager is super unfortunate.
I really appreciate the editors going to bat for us on reacting to the Trek errors in real time.
We Trekkies will not tolerate blasphemy😂😂😂
Oh they knew - they knew had they not done that us Trekkies would have, rightfully, ripped Niko to shreds!
So glad they covered this, one of the greatest Trek episodes ever. Just watched it a few days ago during my 37th rewatch of DS9 :D
@@shadowone01x99 It's Trekker you fake fan! j/k
@@GrimJackal You can be a Trekker if you want, but I'm a Trekkie and proud of it. 😉
That shot of Picard's "noooooo"... I laughed so much!
That was perfect. :D Whoever edited this episode is a G. :D
Capt Ahab got to go hunt his whale...
@@angel102ify "The line must be drawn HERE! This far and no further!"
The shut up Wesley relplaced with Niko would have been good
Truly S-tier comedic timing on the editing of this video! Good job!
As a person with no filmmaking experience but loves your videos, I would deeply appreciate an episode devoted to explaining some key terms. From the most basic (compositing, rotoscoping) to the more advanced (360 camera). Maybe even talk about some of the programs that people use to make these things bc I'm completely unfamiliar with the software. Anyway, love yinz!
I second this idea!
“We don’t say the ‘N-Word’ around 2-year-olds!” It was at this point, Honey I Blew-Up the kid could’ve taken a TURN.
It was "nap", wasn't it?
@@Isnogood12 Ha, yeah it was nap.
naaaaaaaaaaaaaap
wee woo wee woo
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@@Isnogood12 no it's what we call people that steal.
Neighbors
@@Arcadiez Well, 13% of your neighbours anyway.
Thank you so much for checking out that explosion!!! It blew my mind and I immediately knew y'all had to check it out!!!
Forreal knowing Niko and his explosion kink, i really wanted them to see it
Bro he called it a cartoon omg I'm so mad
@@Mako471 right like how dare he, literally cant even rn wtf im callin out of work
@@Mako471
how dare he use the correct translation of a word in his own language...
Why am I just now learning there’s another season of Demon Slayer?! FML
You missed the most complex shot in the _Star Trek_ episode when Jadzia Dax was walking around in the background of the bridge. What made this so complicated is that the original footage was a panning shot with another character walking through the set, so they not only had to match move the camera perfectly, but the actress playing Dax also had to time her movements so she wouldn't interfere with the extra in the original footage! I think it needed something like two dozen takes to get it right, but the final result is seamless.
Loved this episode! Been a huge fan and subscriber of you guys for about five years now and just need to say how much I appreciate everything you do. Watching this episode on a chill Sunday morning felt like hanging out with friends. Really genuine stuff and thank you again for everything!
I always loved the effect in A Knight's Tale where they used broken spaghetti for the wooden lance shards. Its a small thing but it looks really good!
Biggest giveaway of the fake snow was how fluid it was. Like more than a foot from the actors the snow is moving, rippling like a thick fluid not like snowm
Let's just call it "Texas snow".
That's what I was thinking; it was way too much like FOAM, not powdery snow.
Yeah, the whole pile moved whenever they moved. Unless it was supposed to be some special type of snow in the story, it looked really odd.
felt soupy snow
The only way that I can make a comment is by replying, so I had to look for a snow related comment to reply on LOL you can obviously tell they are definitely not in any snow or any type of material whatsoever, look at the polls, specifically when they move the polls around in the so-called snow and when they push them into the snow, the snow around the polls do not move at all, showing that it is put in after post
Wow, when I saw that episode of Demon Slayer, I legit said, "That explosion was so good I bet Corridor Crew cover it this week or next" 😂
yeah im happy to be spoiled... 😑
@@beussta they said it was from the newest episode, and there was a few seconds before anything happened. I feel like you had enough time to skip ahead
@@beussta They literally mentioned its from the newest episode and then didn't even start the scene immediately, that's on you.
The video editor is the real hero here. Saved you guys from 300,000 Star Trek fans telling you it was a DS9 episode. ;-)
That just brought back memories. I watched deep space 9 with my father forever ago and I forgot almost all of it. So seeing that episode again brought back memories I’d forgotten.
13:00 I like how the Editor went all in correcting Nico on his Star Trek mistake :D.
That DS9 episode blew my mind back then. All my friends were like "uh, it's easy, you can do anything with computers these days." I feel so vindicated.
So happy the the absolute pinnacle of anime explosions that was in Demon Slayer is getting love and appreciation from Corridor
That Deep Space 9 episode was SO COOL back in the day. I watched it on its release and, one of the things you didn't explicitly mention, was how freaking well they matched the color grade of the original film. There's something about the characteristics of color film and grain from that era that the DS9 folks matched perfectly when compositing their characters in.
I LOVED that episode and thanks so much for covering it.
Yeah. You can tell the color film of that time didn't reproduce the real world colors very accurately. They had to somehow match the wrongness of the color film to match it.
I've barely seen DS9 but When I heard about this episode I knew I had to watch it! I love a good Star Trek time travel episode and this is one of the great ones simply due to the amount of commitment for it!
@@odatesound If memory serves me, they even used one of the actors from the original episode.
this is one of the best UA-cam series to exist.
ive been watching it for a long time now and i always learn new stuff!
i love it! keep up the good work
I love the camera shake when the explosion shockwave hits it 🤌
Wren's comments about the Dark Matter actors not reacting to resistance in the snow scene reminds me of every time I see an actor take a drink from a cup and you can just tell by the way they move that the cup is empty. Just put in some liquid to help sell it.
Same with pretending to play video games.
@@donrumata369 Are you telling me you don't play video games by violently pressing every button on your knock-off controller while unrelated pew pew laser sounds blast off?
or like make weighted cups and mugs so that the physics match up
same with the "entire plate of food that they push around instead of eating" or "magically regenerating cigarettes" between shots lol. But aye, as Brit tea drinker, can absolutely spot an empty mug a mile off.
@@SA80TAGE i understand during simple shots, but if there is any length of dialogue or any risk of having to take multiple shots...combined with multiple similar scenes shot in one day your actors would get full REAL quick
this episode felt extra fun for some reason
One of their best yet. (Didn't watch all of them though!)
Because it had Star Trek in it
yes! because it was a lot of old stuff, and movies today suck.
Did you buy a channel or bot your subs? Either way please stop posting spam...
The snow shots look like fire fighting foam. You can also see the tell-tale fuzziness between the snow and actors that says "composited".
That explosion was wicked!
Soy Cuba from 1964 has one of the craziest continuous takes I’ve ever seen
More than one!
The editing for Niko fucking up his treks is so damn funny haha
Man, that Demon Slayer scene. The context of what’s happening makes this scene all the more insane, absolute peak anime.
I watched the first season and stopped. Is it worth starting again? Not huge into anime but always looking for new shows
@@kevinandrewsphoto tbh the first season kinda bored me a little bit, but when u get to season 2 and so on i promise u, u'll cant stop watching it
@@kevinandrewsphoto oh, bro it is bonkers good later on.
@@kevinandrewsphoto Bro, I can relate to this because the story isn't great and is filled with plot holes, but the animation and action are top-notch.
@@kevinandrewsphoto There were many episodes of exposition in the first season and a few episodes of great fights especially towards the end... second and third season are a few scenes of exposition and tons of excellent fights - not the usual rinse-n-repeat shonen padded fights buts actually evolving situations going out of control with well directed visuals... by the forth season we're just glad of the breather to enjoy some less high-stakes action sequences with an ending to get to you hyped for the upcoming future film trilogy.
So if you felt the storytelling was okay and just wanted more action, more interesting settings and snappier pacing then it'll be worth it.
If you're tired of the characters, the style of dialogue and occasional drop to comedic touches then it might still irritate you.
I thought I was the only one to comment on that explosion scene in Demon Slayer I'm so happy you guys enjoyed it like I did! The show does a lot of masterful cg/animation blends throughout. I spent like 5 minutes playing back a 30 second snippet because the water sim for a river in the background was so beautiful 😅 in a time anime is leaning more and more on cg in a lazy way that degrades the product it's so cool to see it used in conjunction with traditional animation to ELEVATE the product.
The snow shot, I immediately knew what was wrong. I live in a country that gets quite a lot of snow (or at least used to when I was a child) and I know EXACTLY how hard it is to even push a shovel through it, not least a whole body. Even walking through like half a meter high snow (that's half a yard) is HARD. I've even been to an avalanche training and the first thing they'll tell you it's impossible to dig yourself out of snow because you're pretty much stuck in it.
Super fluffy snow that can be walked through like in the Dark Matter clip is possible but it's pretty rare because normally the weight of the snow compacts together or the temperature goes up to melt the snow slightly. What really through the clip off was how the granular bits of snow was moving because it looked more like sand then snow.
@@mightheal Yeah, it has to be totally still for powdery snow like that to form because even the lightest wind packs it up quickly. Large areas and frozen areas like seas are almost always not covered in snow. Snow they have in the show could never exist in a place like that.
i'm from tropical country and i still know something is off
@@mightheal I would think the weight of 4-5 feet of snow would compact it no matter how fluffy it was when it started out, right? The snowiest place I've lived was Chicago, and we never got more than two feet of snow, and it was usually wet snow, so I honestly don't know. But it just seems like basic physics to me.
I definitely agree with you about the granularity. The reason we can walk through a ball pit is because the balls stay separate. It's the same thing with sand, only grains of sand are much smaller so there's less space between them, making it harder. Snow, however, tends to fuse together in a way sand doesn't.
Having them walk through a ball pit would have helped, but honestly the whole premise of the scene was flawed to begin with.
@@rome8180 I've seen a old video of a woman jumping off her backyard steps into like 5 feet of fluffy snow and disappear like she jumped in water and proceed to jump around in it. So applying that video to the clip the main difference between the two was how the snow didn't compact with the actors interacting with the snow and how the granular bits of snow moved more like a liquid then like a sticky sand.
Using that Picard bit from First Contact right there is so funny.
I just wanted to say i look forward to this every Saturday shit makes me so happy watching these
Star Trek nerds unite! How dare you Niko?? Great episode. That explosion was gorgeous.
It's been a long road
Gettin' the title right
He truly is without honor.
I realise I post this a lot, but I *love* when you cover practical effects.
That ‘Honey I Blew Up the Kid’ section was superb.
There was just an ingenuity to the work in those days when there wasn't a belief that things could be brute forced in post using computers. Which is why the Dark Matter clip was so relevant.
Good episode.
Another problem with the snow shot is that the motion of the actors affects too much of the snow - the radius from them. Snow is pretty heavy and dense and has very little compressive strength, meaning if you push into it, the area you are pushing into will tend to compress rather than transmit your motion outward. In other words, snow a few inches away from your moving arm will compress a bit, but the snow any further than that will not move at all. In this clip, snow much further away from their moving limbs is being disturbed. This makes the snow feel more like some kind of semi-fluid plastic than real snow.
yea. you nailed it
This was really the main problem with that scene but it is possible to have that amount of fluffy snow that you can walk through because I've seen a old home video clip of a woman jumping in fluffy snow as high as this Dark Matter clip and just disappear like she just jumped in water.
Yeah, there are a couple shots where it seems like the snow has the viscosity of something like pudding/custard. Moving like a thick liquid.
I think they failed to describe this exact problem because they have never seen snow in real life (they live on a desert).
@@user666mega You have to keep in mind that the animator was forced to use a consistency of snow that matched the speed at which the actors were moving. It was likely he had a ton of reference data but his hand was forced to make really fluid snow in the sim because the actors were just moving too fast in the original shot.
This has been one of my favorite episodes in a while. I don't know why, but I really enjoyed it more than usual
That snow was elastic somehow, snow is a lot, but it definitely isn't that elastic 😂
How they addressed the misnaming of Star Trek TOS was so hilarious. It totally made up for the mistake. I loved that. Kudos.
“In Camera Forced-Perspective Child’s Texas Switch” is my 2nd favorite German PartyCore metal band. They opened for Electric Callboy once.
Lmao. Our compound words are dope tho
In German the band name is just one word.
Erzwugeninkameraperspektivtexaskinderersatz
I didn't realize you guys hadn't done the Tribble episode before. It was top tier for it's time. Also, thank God the editor made proper fun of Niko for not knowing his Star Trek shows.
I’ve literally been requesting it in the comment section for months lol
@@stevencramsie9172 I think I've replied to you before, shooting your suggestion down because it would be too similar to Forrest Gump (which is what inspired the DS9 episode in the first place), meaning they'd just be retreading old ground with their reaction... so that's me proven wrong!
It's a shame they didn't cover one of the moments that's always impressed me the most, there's a fantastic tracking of shot of Terry Farrell walking on the Enterprise bridge, the camera motion is all from the TOS episode and it's pretty seamless.
Top tier for its time, and it still holds up today.
So has Niko never watched Star Trek?
The episode won awards
I think this is my fave portrait I’ve seen from you yet. The silhouette is so striking and you captured her eyes so wonderfully.
13:38 1) I had the same reaction when *I* first saw this in 2000. "(channel flipping) Oh cool, TOS! This'll do. ... WAIT IS THAT O'BRIEN!?! Ohhhh it's this ep!!"
and 2) I love Wren
Loved that you included the Demon Slayer explosion. I'm not up to date on it, but my BF is and he showed me this explosion just because of how crazy good it looked. Some great fire work in Demon Slayer
Excellent work by the editor roasting Niko for misidentifying DS9/TOS every time.
About time you guys talked about UFOTable's work
I figured it out at the same time as Sam. I looked at those two actors and thought "wait, there from DS9 and this is the original Star Trek" 😆
From IMDB for Honey I Blew up the Kid: "Actor Alex Daniels portrayed Adam in his "blown-up" form (he is credited as "Uncle Yanosh"). Daniels wore a 40-pound, electronic-headed "Adam suit" for the role, and was coached on how to mimic the movements of a toddler. Once suited up on the set, Daniels had to magnify his movements so they would show through the costume's heavy, clumsy folds. Occasionally, the heat inside the outfit proved too much for its coolant system, a vest with ice water pumped through tubes, prompting crew members who noticed Daniels faltering to yell, 'Get Alex outta there!'"
For some reason the man in the giant child suit spiking the ball against the wall is so funny
So glad yall looked at Demon Slayer! If you haven’t watched any other episodes there are small moments that they go to full cgi backgrounds and it’s so cool to see that talked about!!
Especially the Infinity castle scenes
15:55 Wren called it, 'freeze frame', Nyota Uhura in the background is completely frozen.
being a dad of two small boys, makes this episode so much better even
Now that India has improved a lot in it's VFX with movies like Brahmastra, Kalki, Hanu-man and Fighter, I would really love to see you guys react to these movies!
Love from India 🇮🇳
Ufotables VFX department for the win 7:21
UFOTable's compositing is God-Tier. Even in the most mundane episodes I find myself pausing to marvel at how well the 2D and 3D elements blend seamlessly. It galls me when people say stupid shit like *all* CG in anime is horrible when half the time they don't even know they're looking at CG elements.
@@WillWilsonthesafetyguy even when well done, 3D + 2D looks weird to me. Even for UFOTable's that do a remarkable work or high budget movies. I prefer either full 3D or full 2D.
@@TheBigYC Good thing youre not working on the show then 👍
@@WillWilsonthesafetyguy Yup and that's where the strength of this show comes from, the consistant high quality animation, story is very simple, but when executed like this it's really amazing.
@@ViewfromtheVoid lol, really mature response.
The Star Trek Enterprise mistake was hilarious...
At least he didn’t call it “Star Track” like some of my friends do…….
@@stevencramsie9172 junkies say "scar track"
FINALLY! I've been waiting for you guys to look at Demon Slayer for SO long. The visuals are so insanely impressive.
The Star Trek humor was great, love the editing XD And I love seeing that particular episode get some recognition!
This was a sweet episode to watch! Good stuff, guys!
2:06 who edited this? You're covering the thing you're trying to show us.
Yeah that really threw me off "like look at the hat" well you guys are covering it.
So happy to see the star trek episode here finally, and I had also forgot about the second I shrunk the kid movie. Amazing.
They did a segment on the VFX of Star Trek: The Next Generation which was really cool.
That anime explosion looks better than the small fireball atomic bomb in Oppenhiemer.
too bad demon slayer is ass
@@bruuuuuhhhhhhh This is fair for the story, but not the animation and CGI.
@@bruuuuuhhhhhhhit's mid but not ass
@@Donovanthyes, the art, which is so vibrant when it needs to be, but not overly so the entire time, the clash of old Japanese painting for breathing arts and the use of modern techniques and technology
@@bruuuuuhhhhhhh No one asked.
"The Mothman Prophecies"
The movie has a bunch of VFX that are really sweet for 2002
"the extreem muscular precision of a MAN" killed me 😂
I like that these videos always showcase shows and projects that I would never otherwise hear about.
Yeah, like this "Star Trek" they keep bringing up!
hell yea my life is worth living again for abt 15 mins
it's always worth living brah :)
This Series Never Gets Old . The Efforts They Put Into These Is Amazing. Thanks a The Crew❤❤
Bro there's a war on our mental capacities. We got to fight back with good thoughts. Only defense
Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you; before you were born, I sanctified you"
Your life is worth living. You are worth being here. It is okay to not be okay. Just do not give up, please. 💚🌻
11:22 that’s kinetic sand
The snow shot from Dark Matter looks more like they’re interacting with dry water (the silicate powder stuff) than real snow.
The cut to Picard in First Contact made me spit out my Pepsi! Huge laughing!
How I've been coming back here every Saturday to watch this since day 1 is wild 😅
bet you're no Vaginizer
It's Sunday dude
@@stellviahohenheim in some places
The Original Series "Enterprise" is the best one. I love Captain Benjamin T. Janeway in that.
Alongside James Picard Burnam
This might be one of my favorite episodes. You guys have done just because of the Star Trek stuff and Nico. It’s so funny. To the editor of this episode genius.
Thanks for highlighting the DS9 Episode never knew how much work was put into that one even though I have seen the episode multiple times.
That episode of Star Trek DS9 got me so excited the first time I saw it. What they did was super impressive.
7:20 This goes hard on this scene.
@@Movie-MOVlEI know right?
Bro Forgot skipping option
That dude absolutely smacking that ball killed me
When I saw that final scene in demon slayer I was absolutely mind blown at that explosion. That show is amazing
It's a visual masterpiece.
Never thought I'd see uncanny valley snow. Wild.
When I watched the explosion I knew someone on yt would talk about it. Glad it was Corridor
Okay. This is easily my favourite episode of VFX artists react.
My favourite movie and some really cool clips
6:55 - I dont know whose laugh that was, but now it's my phone ring.
lol that's Niko
FINALLYYYYYYY PLEASE WE NEED MORE ANIME I BEG YOU
they'll have material for at least 50 years....
@@icoborg that's the point ykyk, I lover that one episode where they looked at mha and aot.
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Im so happy after so many years you guys are still strong 😢😢😢😢
Suggestion, you guys should a small segment comparing the VFXs from trailers to the final product and see where it goes from there. So many changes that introduces discussion (from landscape to props)
1:42 - Rick Morranis' legs disappear for a few frames before showing up again
You made me think so too, it’s just a chest occluding his leg that is almost the same color as the floor though. It is probably used to hide a cut in the set though
@@sirduggins You can literally see his lower leg slowly fade in when it comes out from behind the chest.
3:27 Life Advice for Parents
Pfft... It never seemed to cause any problems for me... Or my wife...
they drop that and didn't touch it again.
3:32
"We don't say the 'N-word' around two year olds."
Kid: "JIG-GA-BOO!!!!"
.... AAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I forgot how hard this movie went. God I miss the good old days. Kids today have NO IDEA what it was like for us growing up.
You guys are so entertaining to watch this stuff with. At least NIko didn't call it "The Star Track"
I am so happy you reviewed "Trials and Tribble-ations"!!! I owned this eipsode on VHS back in the day ^^