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  • Before the widespread use of CGI, filmmakers used surprising in-camera tricks and optical illusions to fool audiences. Early filmmakers like Georges Méliès could add a hidden cut to film a wide array of illusions. Creative composites allowed for an invisible character in 1933's “The Invisible Man” and for Moses to part the sea in “The Ten Commandments.” Artists literally painted on top of shots to extend sets in “Citizen Kane” and create fantasy worlds in “The Wizard of Oz.” While most of these methods are obsolete today, new technologies like the LED projection used in “The Mandalorian” and the motion-control cameras in 2020's “The Invisible Man” build off these past methods.
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  • @NelsonMontana1234
    @NelsonMontana1234 Рік тому +33

    Knowing how difficult it was to create these effects back then is what makes them so much more entertaining.

  • @1ambad
    @1ambad 2 роки тому +549

    5:13 they really used this shot as a "bad" example when this is one of the most convincing painting shots I've ever seen. They even cut holes in the painting and flashed lights through them to simulate movement

    • @userunknown398
      @userunknown398 2 роки тому +45

      I wouldn’t say convincing but for a fantasy land it fits perfectly

    • @firehawk5962
      @firehawk5962 2 роки тому +23

      It's kinda rude of them.

    • @jessicawalton4690
      @jessicawalton4690 2 роки тому +15

      I would have had no clue the painting wasn’t onto the set

    • @matthewbermudez5105
      @matthewbermudez5105 2 роки тому +28

      The Wizard of Oz holds up better than most movies. Doesn’t even make sense. Especially with how well it’s been remastered. It shouldn’t be so convincing. Makeup and fx

    • @danielawesome36
      @danielawesome36 2 роки тому +28

      @@userunknown398 I think they're talking about Citizen Kane, not Wizard of Oz.

  • @oreopharaoh3748
    @oreopharaoh3748 Рік тому +10

    the paintings in the wizard oz adds to the fantasy and children storybook feel which adds charm to it

  • @chellymurphy
    @chellymurphy 2 роки тому +832

    I actually really love driving scenes with the obvious projector behind them 😅

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 2 роки тому +21

      See ‘Airplane’!

    • @jonhlennon312
      @jonhlennon312 2 роки тому +9

      @@AtheistOrphan I was thinking the same…

    • @MikefromQueens
      @MikefromQueens 2 роки тому +11

      Pulp fiction in the cab

    • @nikoandroman
      @nikoandroman 2 роки тому +9

      Personally I’ve always hated it

    • @brontegrimm
      @brontegrimm 2 роки тому +12

      Same here! There’s a quaintness to it, and an overwhelming feeling of nostalgia whenever I see it.

  • @kgonzales4474
    @kgonzales4474 2 роки тому +30

    The gelatin dead sea parting looked really convincing, especially when I watched it in our tiny old TV. Now I can't unsee the gelatin after watching this video.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney Рік тому +2

      A lot of old stuff gets overly criticized because we are watching it on 65 inch TVs in 4K as opposed to the busted little ghetto TVs they were originally meant for. If you watch it on one of those TVs, it still would look fantastic.

  • @Drakin292
    @Drakin292 2 роки тому +91

    Although not touched on here, one thing I will always admire is the practical effects of the 80's right before CGI took off, when the practical effects were at their peak. I'm not a fan of horror, but it always boggles my mind the sorts of practical effects seen in in movies like The Thing or The Fly. CGI is getting better all the time and I'm all for that, but it has yet to replace the sensation of something physically there.

    • @Acord718
      @Acord718 Рік тому +6

      Exactly I feel the same way.
      But shows like the mandalorian and the dark crystal mix both. Movies like Jurassic Park also do the same. To me that's the best way to do it.

    • @DonVetto-vx9dd
      @DonVetto-vx9dd Рік тому

      Kamen Rider Shin has really terrifying practical effect. Stuff of nightmare.

  • @chrisaguilera1564
    @chrisaguilera1564 2 роки тому +1203

    They showed a lot of creativity in these early days. I think modern filmmakers become too dependent on CGI and it gets overused. I remember the early 2000's there was a ton of movies that used early CGI that looked terrible and now it looks completely dated. I think the best is when you don't notice the effects are there, this way it won't date the movie.

    • @impcityangel3245
      @impcityangel3245 2 роки тому +47

      It especially gets overused with animals.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 2 роки тому +15

      Because burnouts are really common for the people who design them, generic monsters are the norm in films nowadays.

    • @WendifurTTV
      @WendifurTTV 2 роки тому +24

      @@impcityangel3245 I used to love movies with animals in them, like Homeward Bound. I don't watch the new ones anymore because it's all CG animals and it's awful. The new Call of the Wild could have certainly used a real dog.

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza 2 роки тому +18

      New technology and techniques always looks dated, simply by virtue of it still being immature and unrefined. This applies to both CGI and practical effects too. Early practical effects look comically fake compared to what would be done 60 or so years later.

    • @graceross4888
      @graceross4888 2 роки тому +9

      It's cheaper to CGI everything. PDs, art directors, set decorators and set dressers have unions. Guess who doesn't? The studios don't even get enough time to finish most of the shots

  • @hwd71
    @hwd71 Рік тому +36

    The Ten Commandments SFX still amazes me. And Buster Keating's stunts are still mind boggling to this day.

  • @LakeDistrictFilms
    @LakeDistrictFilms 2 роки тому +223

    Original matte paintings were not put in afterwards, as stated (although this did begin to happen with the introduction of digital effects); the original matte paintings were on glass, and the cameras filmed live performers on sets through the holes in the painting, meaning the complete shot was done in camera, matte and all. Sometimes, as possibly in the Citizen Kane clip, extra holes were left or cut in the painting, which could then allow for some movement to be made behind it, to disrupt what might otherwise look like a flat still picture. Absolute works of art, matte paintings!

    • @tommoncrieff1154
      @tommoncrieff1154 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, that’s what I understood. It’s how they shot Tara in Gone With The Wind.

    • @123mandalore777
      @123mandalore777 2 роки тому +9

      Matte paintings where not done in camera except maybe in rare cases. Because you'd end up having parts actors disappear behind the background as they moved through the set. They were overlayed afterwards using mirrors and projections and such. Honestly anyone complain about how CGI ruined movies has no idea what they were talking about, you effectively had analog versions of green screen back then and analog versions of post production where you would overlay a stop motion puppet onto a projection of the actor fighting thin air. Seriously go and watch old movies and you will find action scenes that are stop motion and matte painting heavy, with the same issues that CGI heavy movies have today. It's just that most of them are forgotten or niche now, and the few movies that pulled those techniques off make it seem like that was the norm. The amount of old films that successfully pulled off the old methods is probably similar to the amount of films that successfully pulled off heavy CGI use without it being too noticeable.

    • @Musikur
      @Musikur 2 роки тому +2

      @@123mandalore777 I think the reason people criticize bad CGI today is because we have examples of "good CGI". Nobody complains about the special effects in Star Wars A New Hope, or Jurassic Park even though the work is objectively bad compared to what is possible these days, because they were done with the limitations of the technology in mind, same as the matt painting effect in Wizard of Oz, I mean that is an objectively bad effect by today's standards, but because the blocking was done with this technological constraint in mind, it doesn't take you out of the picture in the way that some of the very front and centre PS2 effects in a lot of 2000s movies do. In A New Hope, they took care to always have helmets on the actors when they used blue screen to limit the blue line around the hair, and in Jurassic Park, they kept the CGI to scenes where they had everything in their favour for their use (giving them cover, hiding them in shadows, intercutting with practical effects and never showing the subject for more than a second or so).

    • @dimitreze
      @dimitreze 2 роки тому

      it was mostly done afterwards

    • @IanZainea1990
      @IanZainea1990 2 роки тому +3

      @@123mandalore777 This person is correct. They 100% put in the matte paintings later using optical compositors. You can see this very well in some of the old ILM/Star Wars/Indiana Jones specials.

  • @roddmatsui3554
    @roddmatsui3554 2 роки тому +49

    Kong was never “Claymation”, he had a mechanical armature too, and had muscles and skin built up in layers of foam rubber and liquid latex. Ray Harryhausen’s puppets were typically all sculpted and then cast in foam rubber, with the mechanical armature inside.

    • @wildman2012
      @wildman2012 2 роки тому +10

      I'm glad you made this observation; I also had a problem with 'claymation' with Kong's reference.

    • @JudgeCrater22
      @JudgeCrater22 2 роки тому +1

      The rabbit fur F/X expert Willis O'Brien used on Kong did sometimes look a little odd when the figure was animated. But the scene of Kong fighting the T. Rex was not equaled until 60 years later in "Jurassic Park," in the CGI T. Rex scene at the end.

    • @jameslacey5474
      @jameslacey5474 Рік тому +4

      @@wildman2012 I know they couldn't take the time out to do the proper research on the special effects of the original King Kong, thus making it sound more crude than the actual process was. There is a special magic to the original King Kong and to all of Ray Harryhausen's films that truly inspire whenever I watch them.

  • @jessicawalton4690
    @jessicawalton4690 2 роки тому +32

    Some of those old effects are very convincing though

  • @zerofucks3392
    @zerofucks3392 2 роки тому +148

    This early stuff is much more impressive than anything today. They were damn geniuses.

    • @RyugaBlader
      @RyugaBlader 2 роки тому +7

      of course no, making croma keys work is reaaaally impressive, creating cg animals that are way too realistic to be relatable is impressive an genius, you think that’s easy but it takes as much time as creating it for a stop motion

    • @radish6691
      @radish6691 2 роки тому +11

      That’s like saying the Wright Brothers work is much more impressive than anything today. Watch Insider’s video on the 12 minute fight scene in Extraction, or pretty much any video in their Movies Insider playlists. There are still creative geniuses today who come up with ways to leverage and extend the limits of moviemaking technology, same as with flight or pretty much any other field.

    • @Winterhe4rt
      @Winterhe4rt 2 роки тому +9

      Idk man. Those LED screens rear projecting IN camera looks damn impressive to me. and so seemless.

    • @arichan7599
      @arichan7599 2 роки тому +1

      Yes . Film makers these days do make a lot of technical advancements tho I feel like it's not noticeable . Since back in the olden days everything was so limited even just a slight advancement is consider impressive . And the modern day dark cgi and camera work makes the filmmakers advancements looks "the same as the last one" modern film looks similar to one another so that's why people aren't really blown away by the recent technical advancements we've made

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator 2 роки тому +1

      @@radish6691 They made new tech for Mandalorian TV Series for example.

  • @thebookwasbetter3650
    @thebookwasbetter3650 Рік тому +3

    I watched the DVD extras for Roger Rabbit. it's pretty amazing how they did that. They actually had robots underneath the animation. So when Roger is pouring himself a dram of scotch, that's actually a robot arm under his animated arm picking up the glass and bottle.

  • @petergivenbless900
    @petergivenbless900 2 роки тому +260

    Small correction: the shot of Tippi Hedren driving from 'The Birds' is referred to as an example of "rear projection", but the shot was actually achieved as a Sodium Vapour Process Composite (a Travelling Matte technique that took advantage of the narrow spectrum of light produced by Sodium Vapour lamps, which could be filtered out using a specially created dichroic prism without affecting the overall colour of the live action elements, unfortunately the process fell into disuse because only a few of the prisms used were ever successfully manufactured and the process required a purpose-built two-strip camera to film with).

    • @brickman409
      @brickman409 2 роки тому +7

      Woah, that's pretty neat!

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind 2 роки тому +10

      @@brickman409 It gets even neater when you realize that this process allows you to use translucent objects like silky clothing.

    • @flatfingertuning727
      @flatfingertuning727 7 місяців тому

      @@HenryLoenwindI've sometimes wondered how hard it would be to make a four-CCD camera with red/green/blue/sodium sensors, and use that for shooting high-quality composite shots which, as you note, could include translucent objects which woudln't work with blue screen or green screen.

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind 7 місяців тому

      @@flatfingertuning727 It'd be quite some challenge. Not the sodium sensor; that one's trivial. But you now need a filter material that filters out the sodium frequencies very narrow-banded from the red and green sensors.
      The existing filters for red, green and blue are wide-band, even overlapping each other (mimicking the filters in the human eye), and, most importantly, are continuous.
      And you need that extra filtering if you want transparency; otherwise, transparent areas are brighter from an "invisible light source" (i.e. instead of a "blue/green/black fringe", you get a "yellow fringe").
      I don't think making such a thing is impossible with enough money, but that ship has sailed---Post-processing for green screen is so good nowadays; we can get everything a sodium screen would get us out of the computer.
      I recently was quite shocked by how a green screen shot looked---a UA-camr had just unpacked a green screen, had someone holding it up all wrinkled and recht behind them, in a room with mixed lighting, and a huge shadow on the greenscreen, i.e. making every single mistake you can do when using a greenscreen. The result was flawless. No fringe (neither positive nor negative), no background flickering, no "cutout effect". The software they used even managed to tweak the light intensity to match the inserted background image well enough that it didn't stand out.

    • @flatfingertuning727
      @flatfingertuning727 7 місяців тому

      @@HenryLoenwind Didymium filters do a pretty good job of filtering out sodium light while passing through other wavelengths. Some colors look a little "off" when viewed through a didymium filter, but sodium light is pretty well negated. Trying to remove ordinary red and green while capturing sodium may be harder, but that could be dealt with by using retro-reflective film for things that should be transparent and putting a sodium light on the camera so that the image captured without a didymium filter would be dominated by sodium light that overall sensitivity wouldn't need to be very high.
      Incidentally, I wonder how the effectiveness of magenta screen would compare with that of green screen. I know green is chosen becuase many cameras have higher spacial resolution for green, but I would think that when shooting light objects, having the mask condition be "green is zero" could yield a sharper mask than "both red and blue are zero".

  • @DonMachado
    @DonMachado Рік тому +5

    5:14 - The crowds scene for Kane's speech was a poor selection for a static matte painting. Orson Wells poked small holes in the matte and shined light behind it to create the effect of movement in the crowd. Another example of Wells' brilliance.

  • @chrisfernan1
    @chrisfernan1 2 роки тому +11

    Sometimes practical looks so damn convincing compared to cgi. John Carpenter's The Thing will always blow my mind.

  • @writerinprogress
    @writerinprogress Рік тому +19

    It's a shame the Pepper's Ghost trick wasn't touched on here, since that was a pretty effective special effect that started off in theatres for stage plays before being utilised by movies. How they even came up with it in the first place is pretty mindblowing.

    • @barthvapour
      @barthvapour Рік тому

      A variant of the Pepper's Ghost technique was used in The Lord Of The Rings for Shadowfax to appear to be rearing up over the funeral pyre.

  • @freakazoid4691
    @freakazoid4691 Рік тому +2

    Not many of the modern examples mentioned in this clip were successes but I’ve heard of and seen almost all of the old ones. I wish more work was spent on scripts today, it is the most important part of a movie after all.

  • @BonitaHall
    @BonitaHall 2 роки тому +30

    I think it’s so cool how inventive they were. We improve on what we know.

  • @jamesdrynan
    @jamesdrynan Рік тому +4

    There is a scene in Hitchcock's movie, " Family Plot, " showing Dern and Harris in an out-of-control car driving down a mountain road. Even though rear projection is used, Hitchcock edited it so well that the tension is palpable. Brilliant!

  • @jmchez
    @jmchez 2 роки тому +8

    Sadly, the great special effects master, Douglas Trumbull, passed away early this month. He created the special effects and miniatures for 2001, A Space Odyssey (1968), and Blade Runner (1982). It's amazing how good they look even at this date. Foe Blade Runner, he used smoke to make his miniature city look realistic as the focus got hazier, the further you looked into his city.
    Practical miniature effects can be amazing when done well. The Blue Danube scene from 2001 is still awe-inspiring and I even still like the opening shot of The Poseidon Adventure (1972) with its massive ship ( a copy of the Queen Mary) sailing through rough waters.

  • @williamjones7163
    @williamjones7163 Рік тому +3

    Ahhh yes, what a special effect, a well written script and great acting.

  • @ajbp95
    @ajbp95 2 роки тому +255

    That skeleton fight looks more real than some things today!

    • @pokkemuur6539
      @pokkemuur6539 2 роки тому +10

      It really doesn’t 💀

    • @wildman2012
      @wildman2012 2 роки тому +8

      The only thing lacking is motion blur, which was hard to create with stop-motion puppet armatures.

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 2 роки тому +8

      I’m looking at you, Scorpion King!

    • @pond-hopers1866
      @pond-hopers1866 2 роки тому

      @@pokkemuur6539 yea ur right 💀💀💀

    • @lemir04
      @lemir04 2 роки тому

      Better than those UFO footage 💀

  • @jonhlennon312
    @jonhlennon312 2 роки тому +121

    To be honest I prefer the labor and love used to give the audience the belief of the movie magic. They missed out to mention the films that used a mixed use of traditional and CGI FX's. The T-rex from Jurassic Park is a perfect example of a mastery of combining two styles.

    • @dandiehm8414
      @dandiehm8414 Рік тому +1

      And a;ll of the work done on Peter Jackson's Lord Of The Rings films.

    • @zydration3538
      @zydration3538 Рік тому

      Jurassic Park and Independence Day both had incredible effects that combined both and I love when modern filmmakers try to do that, or go entirely practical. While far from perfect and often over the top, the two Terrifier films had some great fx.

  • @nand87
    @nand87 2 роки тому +12

    I wondered how them 40s hand-drawn animations had different planes moving at different speeds, just lifelike. Whoa that were physical layers attached to the camera

  • @Jimifan57
    @Jimifan57 Рік тому +7

    Great stuff, but one small correction: King Kong was not claymation. Kong had a metal armature with sponge rubber used for the body's musculature, which was then covered with rabbit fur. It used the same three-dimensional animation technique, though.

  • @-WhizzBang-
    @-WhizzBang- Рік тому +6

    The most amazing part, is back in the early film making days, they did not have computers to do any of the work. Everything had to be done manually with physically splicing film. Far more tedious and difficult! So even though these effects may be crude compared to today's standards, they were still pretty amazing accomplishment's for the time, considering what they had to work with or lack of!

  • @thebob563
    @thebob563 2 роки тому +71

    I find special effects in older films to feel more natural and beautiful than nowadays (if done correctly)

    • @arichan7599
      @arichan7599 2 роки тому +4

      I was born in the early 2000s and even I feel like older films that don't have believe-able effects has a at home natural feeling into them

  • @THE7EPIC7PUPPY
    @THE7EPIC7PUPPY 2 роки тому +41

    If you enjoyed this you should check out captain disillusion, he goes in depth on many of these techniques in fun ways

  • @animanaut
    @animanaut 2 роки тому +8

    Citizens crowd in the foreground is also a matte painting. So in a sense Citizen Kane is a two stage approach to it. Foreground was „animated“ with light just enough to make it look lively enough to ignore the more static matte painting in the background on the first watch

  • @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667
    @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 2 роки тому +74

    Pan's labyrinth, Hellboy, Shape of water and Pacific Rim are amazing films which their special effects stand up to this days. Guillermo del Toro and his team combines the best of Cgi and the best of practical efects.

    • @AugmentedSmurf
      @AugmentedSmurf 2 роки тому +7

      Arguably, I'd say that Jon Favreau is nearly on par with Del Toro, as far as successfully combining CGI and practical effects in creative ways.

    • @caseytilley9260
      @caseytilley9260 2 роки тому +4

      So is George Miller. Mad Max: Fury Road mostly used practical effects and only CGI to mostly remove stunt wires and that one night scene in which it was really actually in the middle of the day.

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator 2 роки тому +2

      Some of the things in Del Toro movies which looks like CGI is actually handmade motorized puppets.
      It looked too perfect to be puppets, so people thought it were CGI.

    • @zydration3538
      @zydration3538 Рік тому

      @@V3ntilator any examples? I'm totally curious and love Del Toro.

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague Рік тому

      I didn't know about Pacific Rim, so thanks. Sounds like fun.

  • @edenatlas7440
    @edenatlas7440 2 роки тому +148

    Hey, there's nothing bad about old special effects.

    • @VioletNKisHere
      @VioletNKisHere Рік тому +4

      Sometimes they can look primitive, but the creativity shines.

  • @ZaphodBeeblebroxxxxxx
    @ZaphodBeeblebroxxxxxx Рік тому +8

    Some of those "low tech" effects are still better than the physics defying cgi effects we see today.

    • @jaybe2908
      @jaybe2908 Рік тому +3

      The old low tech effects were so expensive and time consuming that the movie makers actually couldn't afford to put so many effects in, so they still relied on good scripts, story and acting for the bulk of the film. Now lots of films just shove tons of cgi sequences in the whole movie at the expense of characters and story.

  • @sidibill
    @sidibill 2 роки тому +16

    Nice video but have to correct something. The original King Kong was not "claymation." Kong was a miniature articulated metal armature figure covered in fur.

    • @wJeffG1966
      @wJeffG1966 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I hate when people use "claymation" interchangeably for "stop motion".

    • @lyndakorner2383
      @lyndakorner2383 Рік тому +1

      "Claymation" is a trademark. And, so is "Animatronics."

  • @waggsmith5889
    @waggsmith5889 2 роки тому +16

    If you want to get technical. Alfred Hitchcock’s Vertigo from 1958 was the first film to make use of CGI, in it’s opening sequence. But it was made using a mechanical computer, not a digital one, so you can go ether way with that claim.

    • @davidbanan.
      @davidbanan. 2 роки тому +2

      Not, reaally, but technically maybr

  • @jaredharris1970
    @jaredharris1970 2 роки тому +5

    My gripe is hand drawn animation vs computer generated animation I miss old school hand drawn because it’s just classic

  • @Chkhitoooo
    @Chkhitoooo 2 роки тому +17

    I watched most of these stuff with Corridor Crew:)

  • @michaelslater6839
    @michaelslater6839 Рік тому +3

    I’m so glad you Mentioned Disney’s multiplane camera. I was thinking about a documentary I saw that included that technology and I was hoping you would go over it!
    Also Ray Harryhausen was great. Loved his skeleton fight in Jason and the Argonauts! Great video thank you so much.

  • @ulissesmm
    @ulissesmm 2 роки тому +65

    When you watch corridor crew and know some things!

    • @Bandstand
      @Bandstand 2 роки тому +9

      we have an intellectual among us

    • @albumkosong
      @albumkosong 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah

    • @samlava3026
      @samlava3026 2 роки тому

      Bandstand fam comeback with the fire samples vids

  • @emilymcplugger
    @emilymcplugger Рік тому +4

    I believe the shots on THE MANDALORIAN were first used on Tom Cruise’s underrated film OBLIVION. This is what gives OBLIVION its incredible lighting look also.

  • @jerseyforhawks
    @jerseyforhawks 11 місяців тому

    The Harryhausen effects still wow today. Amazing.

  • @r.jclark4641
    @r.jclark4641 2 роки тому +8

    I know I'm in the minority but I really like the look of matte painted set extensions.

    • @robroy6374
      @robroy6374 2 роки тому

      Not me. It looks distracting and fake to me.

    • @lyndakorner2383
      @lyndakorner2383 Рік тому +1

      Matte paintings definitely can have a more fantastic look, depending on the quality of the art.
      The best approach is to change the illusion from shot to shot.

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 2 роки тому +4

    I think I invented the substitution splice when I was about 7 years old without realizing it already existed. I always wondered how effects like appearance were done, so I always presumed that was how.

  • @burgerthief5333
    @burgerthief5333 2 роки тому +4

    They really put a lot of effort into creating those old techniques

  • @themobseat
    @themobseat Рік тому +1

    Julie "The expert Professor" gives us the most obvious take on each scene. "The old movies didn't have computers, so they used paint and stuff."

  • @pushing2throttles
    @pushing2throttles 2 роки тому

    Every video Insider makes is top shelf! Good stuff... cool. Thank you...

  • @c33k4y
    @c33k4y 2 роки тому +3

    Disneys early cartoon animations are impressive.

    • @lyndakorner2383
      @lyndakorner2383 Рік тому +1

      Walt Disney was the undisputed leader of classical animation. The company's management was foolish for abandoning the medium in feature films.

  • @A-1BurmaShave
    @A-1BurmaShave Рік тому

    Informative and well narrated. Not 8 minutes if unrelated junk, just a smooth and entertaining voice-over job.
    Well done.

  • @kenttm42
    @kenttm42 Рік тому +1

    One critical note: the narrator referred to King Kong as a claymation creation. Willis O'Brian created Kong with a metal armature skeleton and covered with rabbit fur. No actual clay was used.

  • @GregBreden
    @GregBreden Рік тому +1

    The first time I saw 2001 as a kid I thought the Dawn Of Man section was shot on location because it looked so convincing.

    • @johnpooky84
      @johnpooky84 Рік тому

      Until I saw this video, I thought that, too.

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. 2 роки тому +16

    As a lifetime casual enthusiast for VFX that was born in the 60s I can tell you all that approx 20% of that was just plain wrong, or was sort of right but was graphically depicted wrong. Still, it was mostly right, just a bit confused here and there.

    • @cchavezjr7
      @cchavezjr7 2 роки тому +8

      This really feels like something put together with as little research as possible and just for views.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому

      So why not SAY what was wrong then instead of "yeah that's like 20% wrong but I'm not gonna say what parts"?

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. Рік тому

      @@BJGvideos because a year later only one person cares.

  • @JasonBrown-tx4lq
    @JasonBrown-tx4lq 2 роки тому +1

    The green suit performer is a cool concept I like that

  • @Razordreamz
    @Razordreamz 2 роки тому +12

    The Mandalorian is the future. A dome of LED or OLED etc., but a closed environment with actors. And this worked very well. This is the new way forward and I expect many other studios to copy this idea.

    • @lyndakorner2383
      @lyndakorner2383 Рік тому +1

      The technology is proprietary. It was developed by Disney's Industrial Light & Magic.

  • @hilarioph
    @hilarioph Рік тому

    Those effects are so amazing during the times of Cinema

  • @joshuavstheworld7
    @joshuavstheworld7 Рік тому +1

    Now I need a video like this but talking about practical effects in horror movies. Cause those new one sometimes look... weird.

  • @kulturfreund6631
    @kulturfreund6631 2 роки тому

    Many thanks for all the work and the insights!

  • @njorunmimisofficial
    @njorunmimisofficial Рік тому +1

    Honestly this is what makes me want to be in the Movie business, Acting business or just outright make a amazing movie. Today Movie making and video production is more straight forward using either Blue or Green Screens, But Now Blue Screens are the biggest Movie production. I've worked with both Green Screen and Blue Screen and finding how they managed movies back before I was even born and how movies handled "CGI" Was more physical based and painted on or drawed... Something like Tim Burton films, Especially time Burton films using Stop animations is revolutionary and I fully admit that Stop Animation movies was or is still popular in my opinion. Again, Movie Production is one of the biggest things that go oversighted and the Visual effects teams are usually unappreciated because of the Marvels "Icon" Actors, But the real people who made that movie and made the Actors career is the people of the production. WIthout them, These movies would never be possible.
    Take a moment to thank people of the production and Art Designers, Video Development and Effects Teams.

  • @ryans413
    @ryans413 Рік тому +1

    If I ever become a director I’ll do everything practical as much as I can. Too me the practical effects still look the best. When I saw 1983 The Thing and learned it was all practical effects I loved that movie even more because it all looked really good.

    • @salmanedy
      @salmanedy 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, the reality of the situation is that unless you have some clout in the industry, the producers will force you to use CGI.

  • @Dr.W.Krueger
    @Dr.W.Krueger 8 місяців тому

    Working 43 years in film making, 38 of that in computer graphics and image processing; never seen "convincing" CGI to this day. It's still all very cartoon-y to me. :)

  • @chriswixtrom6514
    @chriswixtrom6514 2 роки тому

    Fascinating! Thanks for making this video!

  • @gabrielcarter7900
    @gabrielcarter7900 Рік тому

    Absolutely fascinating. Thanks so much.

  • @youdz
    @youdz 2 роки тому +5

    To this day Jason and the Argonauts stands for me as the last / best movie with "real" special effects, with Starwars A new hope very close behind.

    • @johnpooky84
      @johnpooky84 Рік тому

      The first Jurassic Park is that movie for me.

  • @Loch_Ness_Lachster
    @Loch_Ness_Lachster Рік тому

    Wow, that’s encredibel, the amount of shear ingenuity

  • @userunknown398
    @userunknown398 2 роки тому +5

    Imagine how weird it would feel to play an animal in a movie. They better get paid well

    • @stupidfanboyph
      @stupidfanboyph 2 роки тому

      Andy Serkins' (?) Caesar in the Apes franchise is one of the most iconic out there, but his character was humanized. Though Im yet to see an interview with that kind of question.

  • @rosepearl7092
    @rosepearl7092 Рік тому

    Black Narcissus had amazing effects.
    Watch the scene in which they ring the bell in the morning, or when one character falls over a cliff

  • @nyc78
    @nyc78 Рік тому

    Very informative and interesting. Thank you!

  • @gregsurrell598
    @gregsurrell598 Рік тому

    The 1933 King Kong wasn’t done in “claymation”. It used stop motion with an 18” model. Front projection, rear projection, matte painting & matte shots (Dunning Process) were all used.

  • @SuperlativeCG
    @SuperlativeCG 2 роки тому +3

    The amount of computing power to make a fake CGI Moon landing is significantly more than the amount used actually land on the Moon.

  • @allanalogmusicat78rpm
    @allanalogmusicat78rpm 9 місяців тому

    With regard to the thumbnail, and The Wizard of Oz film, MGM were unique in having most of their matte work done with pastel crayons on heavy black paperboard, rather than painting on glass or painting on some other type of artboard.

  • @paninsular4154
    @paninsular4154 Рік тому

    First time to learn such things. Mind blowing!

  • @Trund27
    @Trund27 2 роки тому

    phenomenal artistry!!!

  • @Bonnysnipes
    @Bonnysnipes Рік тому

    “The rocks stunt double”😮 that and him not coming off the top with promos is like finding out Santa isn’t real

  • @dunebasher1971
    @dunebasher1971 Рік тому

    5:05 - glass matte shots are done "live", with the camera pointing through the pre-painted matte. They are not optically composited later.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 Рік тому

    That was an excellent piece.

  • @kapanimations
    @kapanimations 2 роки тому +29

    I don't think it's really fair to compare today's movies/shows effects with old ones like obviously it's going to look better now than it did decades ago.

    • @Apanblod
      @Apanblod 2 роки тому +13

      Not necessarily. Things don't always get progressively 'better'. Depending on what one considers good when it comes to special effects, I'd argue movies today look way worse than they did a few decades ago.

    • @kapanimations
      @kapanimations 2 роки тому +4

      @@Apanblod I guess that’s true now that I think about it. Like Jurassic Park. Especially movies in the early 2000s that relied on CGI just look super cheesy now.

    • @Apanblod
      @Apanblod 2 роки тому +3

      @@kapanimations There is a common conception I think that things in general always move in a certain direction, in this case the improvement of what's considered 'realistic' on screen. But just as with say script writing, the trajectory is often way more bumpy than that.
      As you say, Jurrasic Park in my opinion has way better special effects than the newer entries in the series. The relative restraint in using CGI probably has something to do with it.
      Now I do think things have become better when it comes to special effects in the past decade. The CGI definitely looks more impressive today than in the early 00's. The movies in general are abysmal in comparison, but even though film makers still over use CGI, at least that aspect of modern movies isn't really what worries me anymore.

    • @HeroDestrin
      @HeroDestrin 2 роки тому +4

      @@Apanblod CGI has become incredibly good as of late, and it's exponentially getting better. Yes, what you said is correct, but I don't think today's effects are worse by any means back then. They keep looking better and better because we keep advancing. However script writing sure has taken a turn for the worse lol.

    • @Apanblod
      @Apanblod 2 роки тому +1

      @@HeroDestrin I think the best use of CGI is to enhance certain shots, like adding depth and detail to backgrounds, or removing or masking items in the shot that can't be removed by other means. Those things (generally) aren't as noticable, if at all, and do serve a very good use.
      It's the moving entities that still look off to me. Something about the weight of the characters, and the feeling that they aren't 'really' there with the actors take away from the effect for me. This will likely improve over time, of course, but until then, their presence is still jarring.

  • @ninjapwnsatlyfe
    @ninjapwnsatlyfe Рік тому +1

    Even with the artifacts on old film it still looks way better than modern movies going full cg

  • @QuestionableLifeChoices
    @QuestionableLifeChoices Рік тому

    i liked this, showing how all our fancy techniques now are just the evolution of past ones!

  • @theWZZA
    @theWZZA Рік тому

    Just an awesome video, thank you!

  • @tonyfussy5720
    @tonyfussy5720 2 роки тому

    That was crazy fascinating

  • @EleyReiHer
    @EleyReiHer 4 місяці тому

    The 'old' technology keeps on coming back. We can see on the utilization of that big curve lcd movie set

  • @HeroDestrin
    @HeroDestrin 2 роки тому +5

    When people say old effects are better and CGI isn't good and it's cheap, I just laugh. That's like saying cars are stupid and we should all ride horses: cars aren't uncreative and cheating, they're innovative and actually require a lot of skill to handle properly. Horses, too, are a great way to travel, and require skill to handle, but you're not going to travel across the country in week with a horse. That's like CGI. It is creative, and it in some ways requires MORE innovation than old effects because old effects were paintings on glass and walls, not maneuvering through various complex softwares and figuring out how to blend everything together. We're humans, so we invent new things to help us do things better. It's not stupid and bad, it's life.

    • @yuriythebest
      @yuriythebest 2 роки тому

      I think what those people forget is that back then there were ONLY these effects, and if I had the choice between 1950's movies and today's I'd choose today's, though I think a few decades back there was a "sweet spot" with more practical effects

    • @TheODLawson23
      @TheODLawson23 Рік тому

      I really prefer old effects over CGI now.

    • @HeroDestrin
      @HeroDestrin Рік тому

      @@TheODLawson23 I will admit, I'm a sucker for practical effects too. I believe practicals should be used whenever possible, and sometimes it can be lazy to just CGI something simple in that would look better practically. However, CGI is a wonderful tool that can unleash the full potential of a scene, and if that's possible, then it should be used to its fullest.

    • @TheODLawson23
      @TheODLawson23 Рік тому

      @@HeroDestrin Are you born in 2000's or 2010's?

    • @HeroDestrin
      @HeroDestrin Рік тому

      @@TheODLawson23 2000's

  • @BRYDN_NATHAN
    @BRYDN_NATHAN 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you
    FX ideas.
    ✨👍✨

  • @waverly2468
    @waverly2468 Рік тому

    What always amazes me when I see actual matte paintings and actual miniatures that were used in movies is that matte paintings often lack detail. Brush strokes are left in but they don't show up on screen. Miniatures are the opposite-- they have amazing detail and the workmanship is extraordinary. Small details like rust or wear and tear are carefully painted on the model.

    • @3DPT
      @3DPT Рік тому

      It's part of the illusion with matte paintings to lack detail... If it had sharper images we might focus on them... but by lacking detail our brain ignores the background and focus on the live action... that and it's cheaper to paint.

  • @RobertPatrician
    @RobertPatrician 2 роки тому +1

    One could argue that it wasn't "cheap effects" because you're watching a high-resolution scan of the original at 720p. Drop it down to 140p and see how it looks.

  • @pikatoste
    @pikatoste 2 роки тому +629

    ahhhh yes... modern cinema... where people put more effort in special effects instead of making a well constructed and interesting plot

    • @Apanblod
      @Apanblod 2 роки тому +39

      And much of the time the effects still look worse somehow. Great success 🙄

    • @ypob2007
      @ypob2007 2 роки тому +12

      Well, i mean, car go kaboom is kinda fun

    • @chrisaguilera1564
      @chrisaguilera1564 2 роки тому +1

      true

    • @dr.docter7464
      @dr.docter7464 2 роки тому +16

      We live in a society

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 роки тому +39

      Yes, because older movies all had well constructed and interesting plots. Lmao

  • @chrismarzarella2106
    @chrismarzarella2106 Рік тому

    Some of these OG effects still beat the crap out of the new CGI. (Black Panther ending fight scene was hilarious).

  • @matthewwaterhouse9925
    @matthewwaterhouse9925 2 роки тому +1

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "It takes a lot of work to make something fake look real."

  • @michaelerekson7970
    @michaelerekson7970 2 роки тому

    Great video!!

  • @ridureyu
    @ridureyu Рік тому

    The first CG was actually in the opening credits of Vertigo - they used a WWII aircraft tracking computer fir those spirographs.

  • @FurretWok
    @FurretWok 2 роки тому +1

    The fact that the CGI is so close but just a bit off somehow makes it more glaringly unrealistic than when it's done by hand and you can tell how they're doing it and it's obviously hokey but I mean, it's already fantastical stuff that's happening, it's fiction, you can make it goofy, and it's more fun when you do

  • @LaughingPsycho
    @LaughingPsycho 2 роки тому +1

    Ray Harryhausen was a genius, and his films are a lot better than some of the tripe which gets released now.

  • @darkscorpion6534
    @darkscorpion6534 2 роки тому

    Matte Painting the backdrops was used to incredible effect for the OT Star Wars Movies!!!!!!!!

  • @davidevans3227
    @davidevans3227 Рік тому

    fascinating, i love it
    thankyou for sharing this..

  • @Sundayschoolnetwork
    @Sundayschoolnetwork Рік тому

    Fascinating!

  • @Musikur
    @Musikur 2 роки тому +4

    I wonder how prevalent these LED Boxes like used in Mandalorian will become? I'm sure there must be some quite steep limitations somewhere, but they seem like an extremely useful tool which is a massive stepup from green screen (the fact that the actors are able to see more of their environment must surely be a boon, although I wonder if it will ruin spontaneity a little since all the camera movements need to be preprogramed

    • @aridragonbeard745
      @aridragonbeard745 2 роки тому +2

      Why do you think the camera movements need to be pre-programmed? There have been several instances of a handheld virtual camera being used in real-time in virtual environments. The Volume works in the same way, where the the camera's movements are tracked in real-time and the background displayed on the screens changes to keep the camera's view consistent in terms of parallax and depth

    • @flatfingertuning727
      @flatfingertuning727 7 місяців тому

      @@aridragonbeard745 Post-production compositing may allow certain levels of flexibility that would be problematic both with physical sets and models, and with pre-created interactive virtual sets. A nice real-world example of a shot illustrating this issue occurred an outtake for the Doctor Who serial "The Two Doctors", where Peri, photographed through a wrought iron fence, runs sideways and stops before addressing the doctor. In the outtake, she stopped in such a way that her face was obscured by one of the bars of the fence. If the fence were going to be added in post, the actress could have stopped anywhere and the fence could have been placed so as to not obscure her face. Because the physical fence placement was set in concrete before the shot, however (I think it was a real-world practical fence), the actress' movement had to be choreographed to fit.

  • @TheDanaYiShow
    @TheDanaYiShow 2 роки тому +4

    Wow really interesting video about a cool topic, really makes me think more about all the work that goes into movies!

  • @yellolab09
    @yellolab09 2 роки тому

    Harry Harryhausen.
    Never stops amazing

  • @MegaAlexis92
    @MegaAlexis92 2 роки тому

    This was interesting to learn

  • @sfperalta
    @sfperalta 2 роки тому +2

    Isn't it cool!? Incredibly creative people entertaining us.

  • @swizzysweetness551
    @swizzysweetness551 Рік тому

    Thanks for the info