CitizenCon 2948 - Road to Release
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Join Chris Roberts on stage at the Long Center as we wrap up CitizenCon 2948.
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Add a pizza delivery spaceship
Big Bennys Delivery ship*
Do people still eat pizza in 2948? :P
@@woodywang2911 Personally I love pizzas. However, people might not need to eat at all in 2948, they just inject some nutrients solution to their bodies or something similar )
@Dallas If Italy makes hundred thousand tonnes of pizzas and loaded to a spaceship in one go, and ship them to another planet that will make sense. Pizzas are cargo after all, can be used as trading items :P
@Dallas Yeah true, I forgot what we were talking about lol
>Sponsored by Intel
"Threadrippers are crushing it" (c) Chris Roberts
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When he asks 'What is life?', you can hear someone yell '42!' XD
Then he got nervous and told everybody to settle down out of nowhere. Do you know why he did that? Because they didn't have Jack to show on SQ42 game.
Star Citizen is a simulated universe, runned by our universe. So now the question. Are we in a universe simulation aswell?
Nope, the system could never maintain running all of our universe, plus several hundred people running sim universes on their systems :-)
Whether you think that Star Citizen is good or not, you can't deny that we NEED more games/projects like this today, the ones that push technological boundaries and try to accomplish what we thought would be never possible to do in such environment
I mean, what's the last game that did something similar for the industry? It's been a long time...
There are plenty of games that didn't deliver recently, so SC isn't new at this
@@appmagician3240 its literally on open alpha
@@robertonome2448 It's literally 6 year late. But yeah you are right, they really pushed the boundaries to get 300 million dollars and not to deliver a product after more than 8 years of development. Every crook's dream.
He's like the Elon Musk of space sci-fi games
except when Elon says he is going to build a flamethrower, he builds a flamethrower, not a lawnmower.
I make a prediction, the mecha Elon just announced will be complete before Star Citizen.
No, the proper analog would be if Elon was building a super flamethrower, and taking much longer to do so, than just making a "meh" flamethrower that he could generate in no time.
They are even being sued at the same time.
very true, but at least Elon you know, made an actual space ship :P
Sceptic or not, this game is a technological landmark for the industry
Dylan Kennedy is it though?
have a look at any of the behind the scenes videos they have on this channel and the dev-streams and you will be able to recognise the some of the groundreaking stuff that the dev team has managed to do. That being said, it could all easily go to waste if they don't manage their priorities right and the game launches in a technological impressive bugfest
@@W0rmhandler I can't do nothing but agree.
@@W0rmhandler Well we dont get to see many other Dev companies behind the scenes conmsidering they are not funded by the community and dont need to spend community raised funds to show the community that they are making progress. Alot of other games have made made technological advancements never seen before. I mean, we rarely see the behind the scenes of Rockstar games. With that being said, making the cryengine work is not a technological achievement, its just something they need to do or else the game will fail.
Backers gave them well over 200 million dollars for a game not tech.
2948? Would have been nice to play this while I was alive but hey at least we have a release window 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂LMAO
You can play right now.
It seems he thought that people shouting "42" as the meaning of life at the beginning were actually badgering him about Squadron 42.
Having that trailer up his sleeve probably made his mind jump there, lol.
unbelievable how far the team has come since this. There is a clear sign of progress. As of this writing, we have are awaiting Server Meshing.
2 years later and there is no server meshing in game. Only demoed..... -_-
How's that working out for you?
@@tjsanfilippo1606 working great actually. Server meshing proof of concept and first iteration is integrated.
„It‘s better for memory. It’s better for performance.“
Hallelujah Amen
I'm certain there will be a response but seriously the best CON job ever
Surly Studios Ok, i'll take the bait. It might be a con job, but the best con job ever?
If it's a con job it's a pretty bad one, the hired more than 500 people around the world and have 4 studios. If i'd scam somebody i wouldn't actually spend the money making a game. I'd pretend to be making a game while sitting on the beach drinking beers. So if it's a con job it's maybe the worst one ever, they'll actually get a game out of it.
@@bobbyb6053 but these people are all getting paid that's the point. If you pay their salaries for what 10 years? And you don't get ONE single game in return, remember one of the games is supposed to be just single player, then it was a scam.
My guess is 2022 final release and then continuous updates to enlarge game content and map size.
This is fairly optimistic
i HOPE they don't expand the game map, it'll make the glossy irl map i spent 60$ on back in 2013 inaccurate
@@yasinzeydulusoy no u slant eye
+KeiVanMan
By the end of the year of whenever this feldergarb does finally release, your map will be inaccurate and too small anyway.
Mid 2021
Still I see people being mad. Did you even know that Red dead redemption has been 8 years in the making? Some people don't realize how much work this game's vision actually requires. These devs are doing something that has never been done before. I'm telling you right now that this game will be a game-changer (lmao). But on a serious not here, don't fool yourself by shitting on these people and most importantly, don't always follow and believe mainstream media and other UA-camrs who talk trash.
I was about to say the same thing. And RDR2, even if very ambitious, is not an MMO and didn't start its dev with no money, no team and no engine. And despite that it has been delayed at least twice.
But people don't know how games are made and think it takes two years to create them, as new games are generally announced two years before release when there already in beta.
And this is the good thing with SC. Not only you can play the game in alpha stage, but you really take part of the dev and can have a better idea on how triple A games are created!
People dont want to hear that logic..... hurrr durrr scam citizen
Agreed this game will probbably be the next big step for gaming like half life with the crazy physics this is the next big step in gaming yet i see people call it a scam cuz its in development for 6 years yet rdr2 has been in development for 8 years and although rdr2 is a great game star citizen is much much more advanced then rdr2
This game with be the Crysis of the entire 20's. Hopefully less on the computer crushing graphics and more on just the amazing details and realism.
You got to look it from both sides. The haters should understand the development requires effort, time and funding and the supporters should understand the financial part could have been handled in a clear and transparent way
THANK YOU CHRIS ROBERTS!!! I can't wait to experience star citizen in its finished state, I have loved the game so far and totally looking forward to more in the coming months :D
Finished state? bwaaahahahaha! IF it ever happens you are in for a HUGE letdown! This guy is a con artist
@@dajzilla yeah the studio and the devs and all the new tech he created for his game are obvious cons, do you actually know anything or are you just hating?
@@ajet0452 No I don't really know anything and I really hope I am wrong (I love the idea os SC) but man... this smells bad IMO. Seriously. It has failure written all over it. But, I've been wrong many times before. We will see I guess.
I hope one day when technology will allow. We will be able to replicate the biggest battle of EVE
OPERATION PITCHFORK...
That is all.
Spreadsheet simulator.
No, lol. I mean in the sheer size of people participating. EVE has such a steep learning curve that when you're done with it, you'll have a Ph.D. in Economics
so true XD
+Zero
You'll *sort* of be able to do so in SC when it's done.
Not the number of ships, mind you.
But each ships internals can run on its own server so with a lot of multiplayer ships you can have quite a few players in a small area.
Also, large ships can have their own servers around them too responsible for what's happening within them with neighbouring servers only displaying the finished computations in the form of ship positions, shot positions etc to the ships in them etc...
So in the end you'll kind of have the huge battles of EVE, but only if the ships are sort of spread out...
If they suddenly all end up in the same exact spot...
Well, that would be interesting I guess...
I donno exactly what they'll do then.
But my guess is that they'll split the area up into several bubbles.
So new ships entering that area enter a mirror server or some such instead of the same one and then the load would be balanced based on who knows who and who have who marked etc...
Hopefully you won't notice it in the thick of battle though.
And I guess a tiny bit of time dilation is also possible to introduce in worst case scenarios.
Look forward to playing this in 2948.
5:22 When your gf asks why you came home late last night
Love that he walks out in front of a backdrop with intel on it and then mentions threadripper crushing it in performance ability at 20:58, "and the new intels are up there doing pretty good too"... LOL
The public performance stats monitoring and future server monitoring are pretty cool!
i can wait chris, i know you have your whole life making this, keep it up
Hows the waiting coming along?
@@moonfly1 PES is in. . so only server meshing now. .
@@tomsmarkovs1946 PES is a component of meshing, so technically the framework for meshing is in with the introduction of meshing. Unfortunately, while PES is technically working, it's working far below a minimum performance level for the game even as it is now, and the addition of dynamic events cripples things further. PES cannot be stated as in until its properly working, which as yet, it isn't.
@@tomsmarkovs1946 YUP...
The progress CIG has made in the last 2 years has me really excited for what the next few hold. Cannot wait for Chris' vision to be fully realized.
Didn't age well
Really.... really... didn't age well.
Soft Launch Confirmed
Yup which is normal for an MMO. I think they will do a "beta" in Spring 2019, release in summer with normal MMO balance changes and improvements going. I mean once they put in the ship buying/renting they will have a large slowdown on money coming in and they will need subs and other ways to keep money coming in. I'm definitely looking forward to Squadron 42 releasing.
Sonic Krunch no chance do we reach persistence in the next 2 years.
This game is many years away.
Again I believe that if they are stating that ship rental/purchase is coming in 3.3.x then they will need to start getting this out the door soon as possible as people will be playing and building their fleet up without the need to purchase new ships for real cash.. I don't believe they are that far off from a workable release product that will be improved over time ala any mmo. I'd say in 3 months 3.4 is out and they are working on the Org system and Full Persistence. Then 3 months later they are working on the server mesh..Beta starts. 3 months later they may do a openbeta then release.
That’s what I’m saying. Soft launch in maybe about 4-6 quarters.
Full persistence is going to take them anywhere between 3 and 6 months, it's definitely not a two year task. Same with orgs, and I'd expect around the double of that for server meshing, which puts the full release anywhere between 12 and 24 months.
I expect the "minimum of four years" "wait, make that five" "six, am I funny yet?" kind of people to shut up by the time we reach 3.5. At that point, we'll have an almost complete star system with multiple planets, including moons, cities, and a lot of stuff to do in the game.
So, is this a full fledged MMORPG with one huge server and millions of people online in the same server, full PVP, skills, stats, levels, you know... just like Freelancer and Freespace promised but now fulfilled in its full MMORPG form (??).
Eternal Flow thanks for the reply. And no thanks CIG.
By the time it's released you will be able to buy the technology in the game but in real life.
Just one more year guys... one more and we are done 🙏🏻🙂
Are you sure about that?
Good to see dates attached to these modules...
Ouch
I am really hoping for some of the 2nd stage soon, I need my Tony Z fix ;~) BTW downright, astonishingly awesome, CR and crew.
This is the kind of info we need laid out... clarifies and details the flow of development for people who cant understand the underlying foundations being build.
According to this comment section, it's still not enough (unfortunately).
@@Eselfar Keep that same energy.
Well 3.18 with PES is in PTU at the moment so only server meshing remains 12:18
Can you guys upload that short demo video from the visual and space crafting presentation? Would like to watch it in high quality.
Shouldnt it be named: CitizensGotConned 2948?
There's a word I didn't expect to see on any official SC video, "release".
I thought the same xD
@Urias - I actually listened to the whole thing and he basically said what they've done and hasn't really laid out a path to release....
Maybe you should have watched it instead of just listening, as he clearly has laid out a path to release.
@Eselfar: No, he really didn't. He named a few obvious features that the game needs and claimed that's release. That's not a "path to release". A path to release is naming ever clear condition you need to release.
Jeffrey Osborn He gave milestones to pass before being able to release. He didn't go into details but it was still a path to release. Plus he said that the game will never be 'released' in the way that the game is already live, so something is already released, and it will continue to improve after the 1.0 version as long as they're enough players to play it.
So the last milestone he gave is more the point to reach to have a minimum viable product, with all the base of what has been promised is implemented and stable, and where all the tools and technologies to develop the game are achieved.
it's always interesting seeing how the feelings of the comments section as a pillar gets crossed. with server meshing being tested by the PTU, and talks of 1.0 on the horizon,
seems like we're just missing orgs at this point 😅
When we talk about other species in the universe...we should expect species which are high evolved in behaviour, technology, knowledge and nature. There should be species on other planets which are not killing anything but able to protect themselves. Planete-modls which a rich wilderness. The humans are maybe a young species in the universe. We dont have to expect that others species are killing and harm the life like we do it. Chris you can implement this in the game this would make the game unique.
I'm slightly disappointed we have to wait until December to see the SQ42 roadmap, but not nearly as disappointed as I'd be if the roadmap was MIA for months with no explanation. It's going to be great to have two roadmaps going at the same time though... it will really highlight the scale of the development.
I misunderstand the title as 'Road to Release: 2948'
Hyped INDEED!!!
HYAAAHHH!!!
_Full Persistence will be Awesome!_
Good think i never donated to it so i can see all the thinks from an outside perspective. I have hopes but also fears. I believe but iam also Sceptical about this game. WIll it be the Hyped big Boy Game that was promised or just smoke and mirrors. Only Time will tell.
I have been waiting for this game and banner lord for a long time
god give us strength and patience
AGED LIKE MILK...
😆
The best part of this is that, once all the basic mechanics are in game we'll switch to beta and they'll start really polishing and iterating on the game-plays tiers (beyond tier 0 anyway hehe). I am hyped! :D
Tone that hype down. You got 20 years before any of that happens.
this game should be an open source/rsi controlled developpment sandbox so everybody can create additionnal content and add/sell it to the game through years.. such as mods or addons (on the same basis as FlightSimulator) it would be incredible and make SC the master of all NextGen Mmos
I sure hope CIG can accomplish this in a reasonable time frame.
This aged like milk 😂
It’s in the title...2948 lol
Great Citcon, well done everyone! CIG and attendants alike.
Yeah, great job everyone, except whoever was in charge of the streaming. The 3 min audio lag behind video was unexpected in 2018
It's funny how this game, too, kinda uses the approach of developing technologies for the military (Sq42) first and then later the civilian sector (PU) benefits from it.
Is it 'bind' culling or blind culling? I'm aware of the latter, so I'm confused.
Aged like Milk
Funny watching this even though I was there in person.
Best CitizenCon yet 😄
So the release date announced is 2948...great now to figure out how to freeze myself.
now kodzima is past - we have a new visionary, NEW GENIUS
I have lost faith in all other big video game franchises and I am really hoping that star citizen can be a bright spot in the darkening video game industry!!!!! I have faith in SC don't let me down CIG!
Sandi looks great on those red shoes!
I might misunderstand something. But in the dropping remote example. You are able to leave the system and if you want to get the remote back you can do that. But what about salvaging in all of this? Can I go and take the remote that he left and when he returns it will be gone? Right?
I hope my poorly constructed sentences made sense.
Yes. But remember before stealing it, the remote is not working. ;)
23 minutes never flew by so quickly!
3.3 Release is when? Been following this Game over 3 Years, is it ever going to be at that point I'm not considered a Beta Tester? That's a novel Idea...lol xD
The most awesome CitCon ever!
I bet there are only people in the front 3 rows.
really hope base building / raiding comes too.
Was confirmed around a year ago
I would love if the 3rd person view had targeting, but only if they made it like SCUM where you can't see around corners until your visual cone is actually looking in that direction. Even now I still think they need that tech in the game.
where's the download? i only see 3.2.2
Speedj2 PTU means private test universe. You will need to wait for it to hit the PU (persistent universe) if you weren't invited to the PTU.
I literally was about to ignore this video without even reading the whole title... but then I somehow saw the word release and instantly clicked.
Hope they don't disappoint me!
(Comment written before watching)
rest in peace
Psych!
Bought the game yesterday then spent 95 dollars on ships today😅
Chris thanks you for buying his next pair of jeans
This game ans company will change the industry
Marketing industry xD
Was this filmed through a screen door?
Great incite. How many games do this? Server meshing/PES being a key marker for when the game becomes a real game makes perfect sense, providing server meshing does work well after all. Will be interesting to see how far it can go... Like how many players in one battle?
It seems like my laptop may be able to run it. Anybody off hand know if I can run this on an MSI GV62 8rd laptop?
the 2948 on the coners its the release date right XP
I hope to be able to build and construct houses, similar to rust or Empyrion
Ability to dig and build on an area of land you have brought, you simply have rights to build on said land and you can sell resources on the land
Yeah... Well I'm not even going to watch this...... Just let me know when the game is fully released.
Ok, we'll wake you from your crio sleep in a few decades
The sound of his teeth nashing together oh man you need to make more of these.
More a verse than a symphony.
just relized I dont think he got the reference when they said "42" after he jokeingly asked what is life. they were refering to the hich hikers guide movie im guessing he was thinking they were screaming about sq 42.
He definitely knows the reference though, considering squadron 42 got the 42 from hitchikers guide...
He thought everybody's asking about Squadron 42 and he started to sweat a little bit because they didn't have much to show on it again. Just a couple minute trailer for everybody. I still can't believe that everybody is okay with this. The single player game should be further along. Go look up videos of Chris Roberts himself telling backers that they should expect Squadron 42 in 2014 2015 2016 2017 I can't believe people keep making excuses for this
@@mercenum5186 I am pretty sure he said at one point during this Citcon the they were just about ready to release the first chapter of SQ42 soon after OCS came online. Wait for the end of November for the anniversary events and they just might announce something along those lines.
So... we're not gonna talk about adding gameplay loops or content... we're gonna release this as a big bundle of tech... and the game part of the game will come later. I mean, I really liked the physics and flight model talks here... but Chris' redefinition of words is so extreme that I don't understand the plan and this ended up raising more questions than it answered. Aside from redefining release, he had things like "ship combat" marked as "complete" even though 3.4 is bringing new flight model changes that they're still working on, so I'm not super clear on what definition of "complete" they're using either. If they release the game just because the core tech is done, and they're selling UEC, as they add in new game mechanics and have to rebalance the economy periodically, either they'll need wipes, which they'll only have the option of doing if they're still in Alpha/Beta.. but if they go and call the game released/ready, those errors/exploits will be just like in E:D, where being a millionaire was so easy in the early days that the economic problems still persist today. I mean... fwiw, the "road to release" seems to be mostly a road to Beta, that ignores the funding goals at robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals ... then he capped it off by rehashing last years promise of a SQ42 roadmap, almost verbatim from Oct 13, 2017, when he proclaimed "Squadron 42 will be the focus of our Holiday Livestream in December, where we will preview some gameplay and share our roadmap for its completion." TBH, this is the segment I was most excited for, if you read through my old comments, you'll see that this is what I was looking forward to... but the segment didn't actually answer many questions, and certainly raised more than it answered.
Think about it this way, you can't have a game if you don't have the tech first.
CockatooDude put it this way first. How can you promise something if don’t know how to make it or the technology to create that doesn’t exist !!!! How is that ?
@@CockatooDude You are right after 8 years development and 300 million dollars spent they still don't have the basic tech they need for the game xD
Hey guys with the sale of ships in the game, the sale of ships for real money will continue or not for at least until the 2019 anniversary?
you weren't kidding about the 2948.... XD
I seriously thought that the title of the video was a joke
will the RAM requirement for 3.3 be lower? e.g. 8 GB?
some people have good experiences with 8gb in the PTU
I'm happy to see all this coming to fruition.6th
I want a release date, but I also want this game to be the greatest game of all time, so I’m okay with the long wait.
2021 or 2022 99%
@@marcorossi8740 Yup
is it ok to cry knowing that there is an end goal to this game
Any possibility for xbox one
the problem is the roadmap is released but every step is somehow unfinished and barely payable ... especialy mouse move aim controlls on ships are still awkward
Is the Kool-aid at least cold today people?
My Prediction is:
Squadron 42: 2020 Beta Release, 2022 Official Release
Star Citizen: 2026 Official Release (All Ships in game and large amount of systems and base gameplay mechanics)
Overall: 14 year development, with a company made from scrath with 2 Triple A titles (Avg. 7 years). Sounds pretty good to me.
Reality: Cloud Imperium shuts down and says we ran out of money sorry we didn't deliver a single game for your quarter billion dollars.
Chris Roberts sad memo to backers: We had a dream and tried but came up short... Thanks for believing. Goodbye!
*walks away wealthy*
Cessna or Nuclear Carrier... well that is what Criminal Syndicates or Business Clans are for... you have enough money to build and finance your own Mercenary Force. Semper Fi Citizens. The more people helping each other in their 'World of business or Profession" will equate to Huge Private Armies, privateers, pirates or Mercenaries for hire.
@starcitizen you gonna release the game for xbox one x users? it can run the game just as well as pcmasterrace
Lol keep dreaming
@@nuada__2991 its gonna be their loss not mine lol
OK. I tried account recovery at robertsspaceindustries.com, and was unable to do ANYTHING. Choose account recovery, and it goes back to log in without any choice to enter email for instance. So you take my money and then lock me out? WTF? SOMEONE respond with instructions how to get back in.
stop using internet explorer
What does that have to do with it?
Backed this title since 2013 and five years on with this all being mentioned I'm not expecting the release to be until 2022 at the very earliest. I was only ever interested in Star citizen, is squadron 42 taking away development from star citizen meaning the time line is longer? If so and yes hindsight is a wonderful thing but I wouldn't have backed this to the extent that I have if this is the case. I have zero interest in single player gameplay.
Hey Star Citizen devs, how about looking at working with Spatial OS for the server stuff?
Please make the forgotten ship, the Redeemer, a high tier Bounty Hunter ship. The game has enough drop ships, and Bounty Hunter is the only role that I can think of that doesn't have a high tier ship for it. Since the Redeemer fell off the map and seems to be a dead ship, you guys can give it new life....it has serious potential for Bounty Hunters. (Replace troop seats for prison cells)
The Cutlass Blue, Hawk, and Stalker are cool ships, but they seem to be a 'beginner level' tier. (The Cutlass Blue is a bit better, but not by much.)
2948..... Is that the new release date? Sounds about right.
can we get a voice modulator to drop his tone an octave or two?
I recommend watching at 0.5 speed instead.
no way, I love the muppets
i can give you the date, persistent entity streaming is here 4 years later.
Well. . there is still server meshing.
See you in 4 years? :D
But I can't wait to test out PES
@@tomsmarkovs1946 it’s coming later this year! Thankfully not in 3 years!
@@tomsmarkovs1946and now we have server replication! Makes consistent server activity much easier while it needs some work it will get us through the rest of this patch until 4.0!
lol, he still sounds normal at 1.5x speed.
If it takes 300 Mil to make this, who's paying for the Massive Servers? Is there/ Will there be a Monthly Subscription???