@@USMC-Sniper-0137I started reloading in the 70’s, the only components we used was what our local gun shops stocked. DuPont, Hercules, and Winchester were the only ones in my little town. I checked a couple of my books from back in the day, there were differences between H110 and W296. Perhaps they didn’t become identical until Hodgetons acquired Winchester?
Optical screen Chronographs are not accurate for shot loads and will show velocities that are about 30 FPS off of actual. Also, the distance from the screen center to the muzzle can make a bigger difference than you might think. Hodgdon H-110 is exactly the same powder as WW-296 according to Hodgdon who sells both. The Lil Gun and the Alliant 410 are both extremely bad for hull life and will cut it in half when compared to 296/H-110. The Alliant 300 MP is the new best powder for the 410. Velocity above 1300 seems to give the best performance with the 410, do not limit yourself.
@@northstarw0w they are the same loads. Funny how they're called pistol magnum, I find them way to hot for revolvers and only use those powders in my 357/44 magnum lever guns. Lil'gun especially is too hot in a revolver.
I just got into reloading .410, and am loving it for sporting clays. I’m loading the old Win AA 2.5” hulls with 1/2oz. shot and Win 209 primers. I’ve only found H110 and have loaded 14.4gr. ( for 1250fps and 15.2gr. for 1300fps (loading on a MEC 600Jr. MkV and that’s what my #11/#12 bushings are dropping). Both pattern and break clays well, but I’m finding H110 to be very sooty/dirty. Is that typical, in your experience?
How do you know your electronic scale is accurate? Did you ever test it using a quality balance scale? I have reloaded pistol, rifle, and 12ga for 35 years. I was recently given a mec press for a 410 and a garbage bag full of once fired paper Winchester hulls in great shape. Any advise on reloading the paper hulls?
I only been loading for my 410 about 6 months. Only powder I have used is Winchester 296. I was down to 1 can 296 1 can 300MP. The only powder I could find locally was 1 can of 300MP and 4 pds keg of 410. So I bought them. But I only load 3 inch hulls for hunting.
@@stephencarmichael5156 the price of bh209 is so reduculous these days. I bought a lb for my muzzleloader a few weeks back. $58/ 8oz... ouch. Havent bought any in 5years simce i had a good bit on hand but man, i wont be doing that again anytime soon.
Hello I am new to 410 loading with a Mec. 650 jr. You made mention of using a chronograph. I just bought one. What’s the distance you set it up to shoot ur 410 through
You said you have never used w296 but according to Hodgdon and St. Marks powder W296 and H110 have always been the same powder
YEH! That's calling him out on the carpet! Good going......
@@USMC-Sniper-0137I started reloading in the 70’s, the only components we used was what our local gun shops stocked. DuPont, Hercules, and Winchester were the only ones in my little town. I checked a couple of my books from back in the day, there were differences between H110 and W296. Perhaps they didn’t become identical until Hodgetons acquired Winchester?
I got news for you. If you use an H1 ten, you're also using the powder you've never used. Which is Winchester 296 they are the exact same powder.
Optical screen Chronographs are not accurate for shot loads and will show velocities that are about 30 FPS off of actual. Also, the distance from the screen center to the muzzle can make a bigger difference than you might think. Hodgdon H-110 is exactly the same powder as WW-296 according to Hodgdon who sells both. The Lil Gun and the Alliant 410 are both extremely bad for hull life and will cut it in half when compared to 296/H-110. The Alliant 300 MP is the new best powder for the 410. Velocity above 1300 seems to give the best performance with the 410, do not limit yourself.
I will check out the Alliant 300 MP. I was not aware of this powder until now!
300 mp is magnum pistol. Is that a good idea in a judge or a governor?
I will keep an eye on your channel I reload 410 too and new loads that you try will save me time on mine. Only powder I've been using so far was h110.
Try the "Stretch" wads from Ballistic Products. They pattern good for me.
@@Hogheadsforbreakfast thanks wi check them out.
H110 and 296 data are supposedly the same according to manufacturer
@@northstarw0w they are the same loads. Funny how they're called pistol magnum, I find them way to hot for revolvers and only use those powders in my 357/44 magnum lever guns. Lil'gun especially is too hot in a revolver.
I just got into reloading .410, and am loving it for sporting clays. I’m loading the old Win AA 2.5” hulls with 1/2oz. shot and Win 209 primers. I’ve only found H110 and have loaded 14.4gr. (
for 1250fps and 15.2gr. for 1300fps (loading on a MEC 600Jr. MkV and that’s what my #11/#12 bushings are dropping). Both pattern and break clays well, but I’m finding H110 to be very sooty/dirty. Is that typical, in your experience?
How do you know your electronic scale is accurate? Did you ever test it using a quality balance scale? I have reloaded pistol, rifle, and 12ga for 35 years. I was recently given a mec press for a 410 and a garbage bag full of once fired paper Winchester hulls in great shape. Any advise on reloading the paper hulls?
I only been loading for my 410 about 6 months. Only powder I have used is Winchester 296. I was down to 1 can 296 1 can 300MP. The only powder I could find locally was 1 can of 300MP and 4 pds keg of 410. So I bought them. But I only load 3 inch hulls for hunting.
Great videos been haven hard time finding load data for 410 power for loading 000 buck shot
3 x 000 buckshot are 0.485 ounce that flies as ½ ounce. If you have 70 grain 000 buckshot.
4 x 000 buckshot are 0.64 ounce. 11/16 ounce is 0.6875 ounce. 5 exceed ¾ ounce I don't do 5.
Thank you for this
Have you ever tried to reload Longshot in a 410? The burning rate is basically the same as the Alliant 410 powder.
No I have not.
How do you get a good reading on your chronograph? I always thought, is this giving me the wads fps?
I've had good results with Blackhorn 209 it was all I could get so I used 25g loads with 38cal wad cutters for slugs or 36cal round balls.
Why run blackpowder in a nitro gun?
@@eduffy4937 Longer Burn gives a youth less recoil
@@stephencarmichael5156 but an extremely filthy gun and corrosion from b.p.
@@eduffy493770% Isopropyl Alcohol neutralize and cleans. No fuss
@@stephencarmichael5156 the price of bh209 is so reduculous these days. I bought a lb for my muzzleloader a few weeks back. $58/ 8oz... ouch. Havent bought any in 5years simce i had a good bit on hand but man, i wont be doing that again anytime soon.
Guessing but whatever powder that you can lay your hands on !!!
Look into full brass shells !!!
Hello I am new to 410 loading with a Mec. 650 jr. You made mention of using a chronograph. I just bought one. What’s the distance you set it up to shoot ur 410 through
I set it about 5-10 feet from the end of my barrel.
@@410outdoors6 thanks for the feed back. Greatly appreciated
thanks !
Do you shoot trap or skeet? i just started shooting .410 trap and it a lot of fun
I have shot everything with 410. However usually shoot skeet.
Alliant has a .410 powder
At 8:13 he did show the Alliant .410 powder as what he has used a lot of...
Wanting to use longshot powder. How many grains for 410?
45,
H110 is ww296 same powder
My MEC 600 jr. Does uneven cramps
You should be able to fix this.
Uneven crimps may be because shot is not settled or the case is not full enough.
@@eduffy4937 it working a lot better
296 IS H110