I'm pretty sure Winchester makes the Herters shot shells. I am positive that all of their pistol and rifle ammo is made at the Winchester plant here in Oxford Mississippi. Really enjoyed all of the 410 videos. Thanks, I may have to get one of these loaders.
Rather than add more shot which increases pressure I add corn meal before I dump the shot in. It fills the space and acts as a buffer. My shells throw great patterns this way.
The best way to get a progressive is to look for an old 650 on Ebay. They go for very little money if they're somewhat rough, but MEC still offers a full catalog of replacement parts despite the design being 40+ years old. I got mine for the staggering price of $36.
I’d save your shot and use an overshot card or add a wad at the base of your shot cup to bring the stack height up. Either way, those shells look killer.
I bought the mec 410 sizemaster. Reloading AA hs hulls needed to use the dipper too or the crimp was horrible. After seeing the comments here about over pressure, I decided to weigh the shot coming out of the charge bar. It's consistently under .5oz. after using a Dremel to make the charge bar hole bigger I am now getting .5 oz charges. don't have to add shot anymore.
I notice you loading the different hulls with the same powder charge and using the same CB5050410 wads. Different hulls typically call for different loads data, powder charge etc. have you found a load common to all of these hulls that works and does not create excessive pressures? Are you using Cheddite primers? What powder were you using loading these shells for this video and at what charge?
Instead of using more shot..which obviously gives you a heavier shot charge which increases your pressures..which depending on your powder charge..would give you excessive pressures. The solution to what is called "over crimp" is to add an over shot card or two depending on how deep your over crimp is. They weigh almost nothing and solves the over crimp problem. You can find over shot cards at Ballistic Products.com...They're cheap....Been loading .410 for over 30yrs
Finding 410 hulls is impossible, everywhere is back ordered, so I went to using.444 Marlin brass, that is still hard to find but not impossible, and it far outlasts plastic shells, they never seem to wear out.
What size shot are you using? Shot much bigger then 7.5 can hang up in there. Put a gun cleaning brush in your drill and you can clean it out and this will help.
@@410outdoors6 I will try that. I use #8 shot. The Old old 600 MEC finally does a great job on consistency and crimp but I need to tap on the shot drop tube every time to get the shot to fill the shell and not stick in the tube. Does any one know where to get Remington or AA hulls? I would take 1000 if I could find them.
What's happening is the shot is "bridging" in the drop tube. This happens easily given the small diameter of the .410 drop tube. The larger the shot pellets the more likely this will happen. As many viewers have pointed out, a tap or two on the drop tube will dislodge the shot allowing it to enter the hull. Tapping the drop tube will also cause some setteling of powder in the powder bushing and potentially throw a slightly heavier powder charge. Remember that the bushings meter powder charges by volume, not by weight. Best practices is to mimic your particular loading procedure as closely as possible when checking the weight thrown with your powder scale. It's a good idea to check the wight of the shot load as well.
Thanks for all of the info in this loading 410 MEC jr series.
I haven’t reloaded shot shells in 50 years. Your great presentation, step-by-step reminds me of all the details I need to get back to.
I'm pretty sure Winchester makes the Herters shot shells. I am positive that all of their pistol and rifle ammo is made at the Winchester plant here in Oxford Mississippi. Really enjoyed all of the 410 videos. Thanks, I may have to get one of these loaders.
Thanks, just starting with my 410. This was enlightening.
Thank you for taking the time to go thru this series for the 410 Mec Jr 600.
All of your videos are excellent, very informative and to the point. Great job!!
Rather than add more shot which increases pressure I add corn meal before I dump the shot in. It fills the space and acts as a buffer. My shells throw great patterns this way.
I learned a lot from your videos...Great job!
The best way to get a progressive is to look for an old 650 on Ebay. They go for very little money if they're somewhat rough, but MEC still offers a full catalog of replacement parts despite the design being 40+ years old. I got mine for the staggering price of $36.
I've got to get one of these at some point.
I’d save your shot and use an overshot card or add a wad at the base of your shot cup to bring the stack height up. Either way, those shells look killer.
I love your videos keep them coming.
Howdy, are you still loading 410 with your mec jr
I bought the mec 410 sizemaster. Reloading AA hs hulls needed to use the dipper too or the crimp was horrible. After seeing the comments here about over pressure, I decided to weigh the shot coming out of the charge bar. It's consistently under .5oz. after using a Dremel to make the charge bar hole bigger I am now getting .5 oz charges. don't have to add shot anymore.
The best 410 vid out there. What is your wad pressure?
Question from a novice reloader… Could you do an overshot card instead of adding extra shot?
Thank you, very thorough.
Great video, thanks.
The Herters shotshells started out as Chedite hulls. Don't know for sure, but I've heard that operations have changed to using USA made hulls now.
I notice you loading the different hulls with the same powder charge and using the same CB5050410 wads. Different hulls typically call for different loads data, powder charge etc. have you found a load common to all of these hulls that works and does not create excessive pressures? Are you using Cheddite primers? What powder were you using loading these shells for this video and at what charge?
Good video I'm going to try out the Top Gun by Federal been buying them at walmt.
Great info👍🏻. I have a MEC Versa set up for 12ga, is this also known as a 600? Also have to ask if all hulls are reloadable so long as intact?
Overshoot card maybe better option than adding lead sir.
I was wondering if a guy could cut some cardboard discs to drop in the bottom of the wad to take up the space??
I like that idea.
Just getting into reloading 410. Have some federal casings and they stick tightly in the resizer. Is this normal?
Instead of using more shot..which obviously gives you a heavier shot charge which increases your pressures..which depending on your powder charge..would give you excessive pressures. The solution to what is called "over crimp" is to add an over shot card or two depending on how deep your over crimp is. They weigh almost nothing and solves the over crimp problem. You can find over shot cards at Ballistic Products.com...They're cheap....Been loading .410 for over 30yrs
Don't really need a cup type wad for 410 if your using lead shot.
Just use a shot card..
Finding 410 hulls is impossible, everywhere is back ordered, so I went to using.444 Marlin brass, that is still hard to find but not impossible, and it far outlasts plastic shells, they never seem to wear out.
I wonder of a over shot card woukd work in place of more shot
I would think that it would yes! 👍🏻
I’ve got the same mec but my wads won’t set on the powder correctly then I wind up with shot spilling over.. how do I adjust the wad pressure?
This is for 12-ga, but it'll give you an idea what to adjust: ua-cam.com/video/QtYbdTBZK0o/v-deo.html
@@AndyCinDallas Thank you very much 🙏
Why does my shot always hang up in the drop tube?
I load #6 shot and it will hang up in the tube and drop light loads
What size shot are you using? Shot much bigger then 7.5 can hang up in there. Put a gun cleaning brush in your drill and you can clean it out and this will help.
@@410outdoors6 I will try that. I use #8 shot. The Old old 600 MEC finally does a great job on consistency and crimp but I need to tap on the shot drop tube every time to get the shot to fill the shell and not stick in the tube. Does any one know where to get Remington or AA hulls? I would take 1000 if I could find them.
I just tap on the tube with a pencil or something to make sure it don’t hang up.
What's happening is the shot is "bridging" in the drop tube. This happens easily given the small diameter of the .410 drop tube. The larger the shot pellets the more likely this will happen. As many viewers have pointed out, a tap or two on the drop tube will dislodge the shot allowing it to enter the hull. Tapping the drop tube will also cause some setteling of powder in the powder bushing and potentially throw a slightly heavier powder charge. Remember that the bushings meter powder charges by volume, not by weight. Best practices is to mimic your particular loading procedure as closely as possible when checking the weight thrown with your powder scale. It's a good idea to check the wight of the shot load as well.
Why am I crushing my 410 shells on my mec jr