Yes and, if I remember correctly, the Balrog is called Durin's Bane by the Dwarf (and very very few, if not only one, survived the war of the Wrath....Valar don't do half work when it comes to pests...)
its a woman thing.. woman: "he's the problem." ... everyone: "who is?"... woman: "HIM!!!"... everyone: "Who;s him?".... woman: points to a crowd "HIM!"... everyone looks at each other and turns on one another... war starts
It's insane how retarded they made anyone but Elrond in the series. Like Sauron said to Calebrimbor, they think too highly of him and his deceit, they pretty much put themselves in that situation for the most part
Not only that but Galadriel isn't a broken mess of limbs after falling what look like a pretty long drop and Adar still conscious and able to lift his arm after being stabbed a hundred plus times. Characters pick up a lot of injuries in this show but heal pretty well when really any kind of wound would put you in peril and leave you bed ridden for weeks
It was a little jarring. We literally saw something that was filmed like a dramatic death scene, then next episode he’s just carried in like a normal prisoner.. he doesn’t even look as roughed up as Elrond 😂
@@calliejanellavillegas9541 Yes, absolutely! He didn't participate in the terrible deeds done by his relatives. Sauron used him, manipulated him, used mind control. When Celibrimbor realized what was truly happening, that he was Sauron, and rejected, Sauron tortured and killed him.
isn't shadow of Mordor and war canon so basically Celibrimbor could be a new enemy after salron even if it's not in Tolkien's writing it would be something different if they do continue in the fourth age
If Arondir can come back the following episode after taking some blows to the chest, Adar can still mumber after being stabbed 100 times and Galadriel can recover after falling from eternity, then maybe King Durin could survive being sliced by the balrog? you never know.....
enjoyed this episode, the balrog scene with durin’s dad, Sauron’s manipulation, celebrimbors defiance, gandalfs realization to who he was. Looking forward to season 3
I know the show breaks a lot of the story’s lore but it was enjoyable to watch and see the set pieces. Also your ending should have Adar saying “Daddy loves you very much” and then show all the orcs furiously stabbing him 🤣
yeah, base an entire show on an epic battle scene of thousands of men, elves and orcs, but never show more than 20 of them fighting, must have been budget restrictions, oh wait...
Yeah that’s what I also thought. Peter Jacksons Lotr had massive scale, but a way lower budget. The battle felt not even close to the battles we saw in the Lotr movies like how??
A good siege needs purpose and setup. First of all we need to have a better setup of Eregion and the defenders. -How does it work? -How are the Elbs fighting? -Maybe show some future battles -maybe show some strong defence wappons Then it is unclear why Adar attacks the hole city. Why does he not talk to the Elbs to give him Sauron? The blockage of the river is the big ambush. It need at least some backstorry. How does Adar know about it? Why do the Elbs not know? It just seems way to easy and random.
Scriptmage has a video comparing the scale of two coronation scenes, one from TROP and the other from the house of the dragon, and you would think that HOD has 10x the budget of TROP.
It was lame to have Adar die so soon, especially after having such a momentous show of heart that proved to the audience that he might truly be a hero after all. Right when the character shines and shows potential, they kill him off. I really wanted to see more of him. I would also love to see a lot less of the hobbit c-plot.
Yeah just stabbing him like that was a waste. They spent 7 episodes building him up for an epic showdown with Sauron only to be killed by his own orcs. He is a more interesting character then Sauron.
That was awesome when Sensai Bombadil taught Gamdalf how to wield by making his wax on/wax off his Limbo for a long time and them Gandalf was prepared to block Sauron attacks
Feanor was Celebrimbor's grandfather. His father was Curufin (who was killed in Doriath during the second kin slaying in an attempt to take the silmaril from King Dior.
I think Sauron wants both. He really loves Gal, but in his psychotic dark possessive way. It's like Hannibal & Will dynamic. Look at Celebrimbor - he loved him too, but still killed him. Also think he stabbed Gal with crown near her heart to corrupt her spirit from inside - "Bind to my very being"
No he doesn't care for her but just wants the rings. This is the Sauron who doesn't care for anyone. But when he was Halbrand they played up this potential romance where he hinted he wanted her to be his Queen which she obviously is opposed after learning he's now Sauron. So no there's no love or care for her.
It was clear as to why the orcs turned on Adar. That head most trusted Orc questioned Adar's love for them as his children when he forged them ahead when it appeared that they were losing in battle. When that particular Orc called Adar by name and then said to him "ADAR, You said you loved us..." before Adar made the final decision to continue the campaign that cost so many Orc lives. From that point on the Orcs developed doubt about Adar's love for them. When that trusted leader Orc found Sauron, and Sauron asked his name, Sauron no doubt engaged in some sort of dialog and sensed that apparent doubt, perhaps pretending that he loved the Orcs more so, causing that particular Orc, Adar's most trusted leader, to flip.. At the end of the episode that same orc briefed Sauron about the progress of the war telling Sauron (right before Sauron kills him) that if they continued fighting that more Orc lives would be lost, Sauron kills him. He killed him using the same reason that was used to flip him against Adar. Perhaps seeing a disdained weakness of that particular Orc when it came to other orc lives. At that point Sauron wanted no weaknesses because he had fully installed himself as the leader of the Orcs and had little concern for their lives and had no use for wimpering loose ends crying about love and how many lives being lost in battle.
It explained why the orcs turned on Adar. It doesn't explain why they would follow Sauron. Apparently the orcs just wanted peace, and they know Sauron won't provide that. I think they didn't show it, because they don't know how to explain it.
Sauron is no friend of the orcs and will callously kill them. Yes Adar does care more for the orcs but he knows how dangerous Sauron is so is willing to go to war and sacrifice orcs to destroy Sauron and orcs aren't happy about that but that's no reason for orcs to ally themselves with Sauron. My guess is Sauron used mind game trickery as he has the power to create illusions and convinced the orcs that he was the best choice to look after orc interests. Sauron actually showed he can do much more than create illusions but can actually control minds like he did with the elf soldiers to get them to kill each other so it's possible he is controlling the orcs to kill Adar. But that's silly in itself as Sauron is so powerful he could have just walked up and kill Adar himself without any orc help or ruse. It's obvious Sauron is way more powerful than Adar as he has power to create illusions, mind control, magic to transform himself from Halbrand to Sauron and we haven't seen all his magic powers yet. Plus he is physically strong in combat. That being said I would have liked a better ending for Adar. It's a waste of a good character after all the buildup.
One thing they never explained is why Adar is so taken with orcs and why he cares for them. He is an elf before and they're not exactly friendly with orcs.
@@nicomalThey were created to gift those who wears them an ethereal beauty, and it’s implied it gifts them favor in their endeavors. (Likely combat prowess and interpersonal communication.) The rings also were imbued with the power to stop the Fading; basically elven immortal dementia and inevitable death.
S01 : reveal identity of Sauron S02 : destruction of Eregion S03 : capture of Sauron by the Numenoreans S04 : downfall of Numenor S05 : war of the last alliance
It wasn't just being a master manipulator that enabled Sauron to turn the orcs against Adar. Or Adar's insistence on having them continue to fight when so many were being killed which caused doubt. It was Sauron's mind control! Saw this coming after watching E6. But I still bawled when Adar was killed. 😭 Especially after he gave Galadriel back her ring. The ring did not only change his appearance. It had changed him both inside and out. Cleared the cobwebs, so to speak. But too late. 😢
@@shelbyindianajones3226 Naaah. This orc died a dogs death. Boromir died taking many orcs with him. He died standing. They cant put him down and thats why they have to use arrows. Theres no comparison.
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I think that the first earthquake in khaza dum had a result that boulder falls down and destroys a path way in half ,i think that in fellowship of the ring when the gang first enters Moria they find a path with stairs with a big gap ,where frodo jumps and aragorn catches him! I think its the same place....what you guys think?
My question is why would they choose to make the stranger Gandalf when they have two blue Wizards they could have chosen from. Gandalf didn't come to Middle Earth until the third age. They really got the wrong people to do the show. They should have chose people who knew about the story.
Mainly because they are squishing a bunch of events in this. All of the events that have happened in this show take place over decades of warfare and subterfuge.
Season 3 - A huge war against Sauron breaks out with Numenor Capturing him. Season 4 - Sauron continues to corrupt eveything while in chains. Numenor is eventually drowned out. Elendil becomes King. Season 5 - Sauron has the One Ring with the Elves and Men uniting for the Last Alliance.
I think it’s a great improvement on season one. And that’s coming from somebody who liked the first season. After finishing season two, I went back and binged season one, and while I’m not a fan of all of the writing. I think it really gets the heart of Tolken in both his theology and his themes. season two steps that up and focuses on characters that I really care about. Like both Charles Edwards and Charlie vickers performances this season are just awe-inspiring. I think there’s plenty of things to criticize about the show, like all shows, but I think the strong fan base who likes it really likes it and I’m one of them. Also, my God, Barry McCreery!! If you don’t agree with me on anything else, you have to agree that Bear McCreary is just killing it.
I love it! some parts were dragging, but overall it's a great show and all the storylines of Middle Earth and why everything happened ties to the future in what happens in LOTR in the 3rd age...
Loved it, Sauron was amazing. Really excited for Season 3, Can't wait for this story to lead up to the LOTR prologue. I hope they redo the scenes from that with the new actors. Isildur ! lol
It was really cool. I was worried they would do the fall of Kazzadum in one episode. They stayed down there for almost a year fighting the Balrog. They closed off the mine and no one really knows what happened in that year.
Serious bad assery but what exactly was the point of jumping with an 🪓 to his death? But epic ending. Guess when he took off the ring he realized his mistake and tried to make amends?
Don't try to understand the work of retar...ded people... much less explain them. Otherwise you are probably part of this generation of talentless people. 10 years ago, these films or series would never have seen the light of day.
What was badass? If the balrog just move two metres back, the dwarf would have fallen into his death without the balrog even lifting a finger. And like all scenes with big monsters: they do not pose a threat because like the worm and Arondir or the troll and Elrond or the ghosts in the forest, just one or two hits with the sword and they're gone... boring.
The rings were not corrupt, until they made the 9 rings for men, which was stated that they have a connection with the elven rings. So they were not corrupt, but will be.
Season 2 had more action. First season was stretchy, they onlyv revealed sauron in last episode. Until this you didn't really know where the storyline is headed and what is the purpose of the characters. So in season 2 the purpose is clear and everything is in action towards to that
Oh that’s so nice of you but tell me how any of this makes sense? Isildir is in the beginning of the first. Live and this show is suppose to be thousands of years before that
Sauron and his deception are so true of the present world leaders and the battle of the common man with everything around it. Even though it is a work of fiction, I simply loved the way Sauron's character is presented, evil that is prevalent, silent, cunning and highly manipulative.
Disguised as love and willingness to help those who cannot help themselves Sauron's deception is deep. Even after Celebrimbor knew who he truly was he was still manipulated to complete the rings. Looking at both candidates for president of the US, i see this manipulation.
When I first watched Season 1 last year, I though, "Meh - entertaining, but not so good." This year, after watching S2, E1, decided to go back and watch Season 1 again. Liked it better the second time. But Season 2 was still so much better!
Season 2 was much better than Season 1. The writing is still crappy at times but it's getting better. Sauron and Celebrimbor, Elrond, the Dwarves and Elendil kinda carries this series for me thus far.
I don't hate this show, but I don't love it 🤷🏻♀ I watch it but I often find myself fast forwarding through it when I get bored... but I still wanna know what's going to happen, even when technically I know what's going to happen 🤣 However, if someone asked me, I would trade this series for a 2nd season of My Lady Jane without having to think twice 😆
People are complex Noone is the ultimate evil everyone has cracks and pain hidden deep it is what it is i like the expansion of his character he was barely a character in the lots or hobbit
They could still have made an incredible series and *NOT* ripped up so much of Tolkien's original canon. So many times during this show I've just thought "WTF?"
If the rings have these healing powers why not just put it on Galadriel when she decided to suicide jump off a cliff? If mithril was what saved the realm of London why did they need rings at all? Just sprinkle mithril everywhere? What do these things actually do? It's very consistent
The ending of Lord of the Rings Return of the King would of been way better if Sauron actually had a form where the audience could actually see him suffer and then die instead of eye in the sky that doesn't show pain. The good guys suffer the whole movie and the ultimate bad guy is dead in 5 seconds the bad guy should suffer the same or more in the end
I really hope we see the ring wrathes or nazgull they look epic i and really hope we saron in his full dark gear he looks so cool in that i wouldn't mind if they took something from the shadow of mordor game and put that in the show would be cool if they did
I liked it a lot. Peter Jackson’s movies were not 100% faithful to the books but that doesn’t make them any less awesome. Same with this series. Season 1 was a little uneven but I think it started firing on cylinders with season 2.
What beats me is that why that balrog who is easily able to smash through mountain rocks even bedrock had not come forth till During or During came down to him to say hello I mean he can get out of there but why he had not
This season (Not taking into account The Property as a whole but simply as A Series) was 100 times more intriguing and Simply better than the first in every aspect. Most importantly In my opinion the writing.
First season was mostly setup of characters so it took half a season to get the story going. But this season is gets more interesting with the crafting of the rings. It's a pretty good story which was never covered in Peter Jackson's 6 part movies. Definitely an improvement and ignore the critics who just complain about diverse elves. That being said the Halbrand to Sauron transition is ridiculous. And Gandalf takes way too long to remember his powers.
The Series is an absolute desaster. I wouldn't give a shit, if it wasn't meant to be a LotR franchise. But it's a slap in the face for any true fan. Or at least somebody, who thinks space and time and logic would be relevant.
@@predragdjedovic don't tell me who I am ,you don't know me. I really like the show and it's not so strange, it's done right! I am just sick of haters voices to be the loudest,my opinion is positive so GTFO of my comment hater.
While it's not terrible, a lot of character develoment was sacrificed for the plot, often very dull and the intrigue was subpar since Sauron was right when he said to Calebrimbor that they think too highly of him. They basically put themselves in the situation and Galadriel doesn't seem to learn her lesson, all of it could have been avoided so many times. I did like the Dwarven characters and story, Elrond was alright and seemed to be the only one with a brain. The Numenor coup was forced, people seem to switch loyalty from one person to the next on a whim and feels inauthentic with lots of wattery eyes acting and supposed emotional stories that also feel forced and rushed. Sauron his actor and persona was well done but didn't fit the pacing of other main characters, everything together I'd give it a 6.5/10
Sauron is actually the good guy. The elves deceive and betray each other, humans, ururks. Even Adar just used the orks and used his father image to manipulate them - which led to his fall. Sauron just wants to put an end to it and bring peace but is forced to play with their rules. Elves as well as Gandalf just used Bilbo and Frodo later as well, willingly. The elves, human and dwarf societies were rotten. Sauron later just used their behaviour to each other against them. Even in our reality, humans are rotten and not fit to govern themselves, would be better if AI would take Control, because humans are just way too rotten and history proved that over and over. Humans should not be allowed to govern themselves.
To me, everything with gandalf and "saruman" made no sense. Saruman is meant to be a power of good in the hobbit so why is he evil as far back? The sauron part with anatar on the other end i actually enjoyed
As much as I enjoyed the Balrog scene, it paints the writers into a huge plot hole corner. Instead of thousands of years of Khazad-dum’s greatness, now it’s a good couple of years. The wrong Durin (III vs VI) gets killed, ok fine creative licensing, but his son doesn’t make note of what he actually saw as “Durin’s Bane”? Unlike the books, there were surviving witnesses to the Balrog’s presence. Balin sure would’ve appreciated a post-it note or something. Or Durin telling of his father’s death to his brother from another mother Elrond, who might’ve seen but definitely would’ve heard of Balrogs in the first age, as Gil-Galad’s herald? Describe a Balrog without actually describing a Balrog. Go ahead, I’ll wait. Elrond would have mentioned it to Galadriel or Gil-Galad, whose father was actually killed by a Balrog. Or go to Glorfindel and say “remember that time you died? What did that dude look like that murdered you?” It changes the Fellowship of the Ring where the White Council would’ve said “Balrog? Under no circumstances go thru Moria with the ring!” No Moria, no Gandalf the White, no Sharkey, etc.
Clearly the stranger was Gandalf from season 1. And the Dark wizard is Saruman. Even though this makes no sense. I believe the show runners are not imaginative enough for anything else.
Incredible Loved Every Bit Of It..❤❤❤ Vickers Is The Sexiest Man , Since William Holden... Can't Believe I'm In Love With Sauron 😮😂 And I Just Adore Isialdur ❤❤ Please Don't Change Any Actor's For Season 3🙏🏻🙏🏻 I Preferred The First "Adar".. This Guy Looked Too Macho For The Part.. The First Guy Was More Evily Etherial 🤔
No, not Sauron for me! Adar! ❤️ lol. And 💔 . I bawled when he was killed. 😭 😭😭. Even though I knew after E6 that Sauron was going to use mind control to have the Uraks/orcs kill him and to enslave them. Also like Isildur and Elendil!!!
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I was gonna say dumpster fire but dumpster fire was actually entertaining
the shows a pale imitation of peter jacksons trilogy and a insult to all LoTR fans
@@reygatery This show got me to laugh at it a couple of times, so I guess there's that...
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I had diarrhea yesterday…It was far more entertaining than Rings of Power
Sauron was the one who carried the entire season for me.
I liked it! The actor was born to play Sauron!
Khazad Dum is an earlier name for Moria so yes it’s the same balrog.
Yes and, if I remember correctly, the Balrog is called Durin's Bane by the Dwarf (and very very few, if not only one, survived the war of the Wrath....Valar don't do half work when it comes to pests...)
I’ll be honest, the coincidence of two Balrogs of Moria would make
more sense than some of this expensive fan fiction of a series.
Lol all Galdreiel had to do was alert everyone who Sauron is as soon as she found out………..
its a woman thing.. woman: "he's the problem." ... everyone: "who is?"... woman: "HIM!!!"... everyone: "Who;s him?".... woman: points to a crowd "HIM!"... everyone looks at each other and turns on one another... war starts
Not cannon. Galadriel Was just chilling with Celeborn. You just have to read Silmarillion. Then all will be revealed. The TV show is shit.
I love the series, but yea, that i never understood and makes me angry to this day
It's insane how retarded they made anyone but Elrond in the series. Like Sauron said to Calebrimbor, they think too highly of him and his deceit, they pretty much put themselves in that situation for the most part
@@daytrippingcalifornia3270stick the book up your
cant believe they showed arondir get stabbed in the middle of his chest. Then he’s fine this episode. like what was the point of that
May be the king heal him by help of ring😊
Not only that but Galadriel isn't a broken mess of limbs after falling what look like a pretty long drop and Adar still conscious and able to lift his arm after being stabbed a hundred plus times. Characters pick up a lot of injuries in this show but heal pretty well when really any kind of wound would put you in peril and leave you bed ridden for weeks
@@darkside_s1 i seriously think there musta been a deleted scene, but why leave out a scene like THAT!
It was a little jarring. We literally saw something that was filmed like a dramatic death scene, then next episode he’s just carried in like a normal prisoner.. he doesn’t even look as roughed up as Elrond 😂
@@cgdimensionmaybe because of elf? Celebrimbor took lot of bows and was still not dying
When brimby said “one should be your utter ruin” he meant the one ring, not Frodo. it was Frodo and sam and gollum together that destroyed the ring.
Correction Celibrimbor is Feanors grandson
Son of curufin
I feel bad for him tho
@@calliejanellavillegas9541 Yes, absolutely! He didn't participate in the terrible deeds done by his relatives. Sauron used him, manipulated him, used mind control. When Celibrimbor realized what was truly happening, that he was Sauron, and rejected, Sauron tortured and killed him.
isn't shadow of Mordor and war canon so basically Celibrimbor could be a new enemy after salron even if it's not in Tolkien's writing it would be something different if they do continue in the fourth age
No, the Shadow of Mordor games are not canon at all. Its based on the LOTR movie 'universe', not the books 'universe' @@shadowaussie1012
"We never see king durin die!!? " bruhhhh that belrog sliced the king tf up 😭
Nahhh men come on 😂😂♾️
Well he had an 🪓 but guessing dwarf King couldn't defend himself with that. So what was the point. 🙄
If Arondir can come back the following episode after taking some blows to the chest, Adar can still mumber after being stabbed 100 times and Galadriel can recover after falling from eternity, then maybe King Durin could survive being sliced by the balrog? you never know.....
HAHAHAHA, was going to comment the same. Never seen a character so conclusively get obliterated
enjoyed this episode, the balrog scene with durin’s dad, Sauron’s manipulation, celebrimbors defiance, gandalfs realization to who he was. Looking forward to season 3
Me too.
I know the show breaks a lot of the story’s lore but it was enjoyable to watch and see the set pieces. Also your ending should have Adar saying “Daddy loves you very much” and then show all the orcs furiously stabbing him 🤣
The scale of this show is wild. It’s like 20 elves vs. 30 orcs.
yeah, base an entire show on an epic battle scene of thousands of men, elves and orcs, but never show more than 20 of them fighting, must have been budget restrictions, oh wait...
Literally feels like a Civil war enactment but Lotr themed, it just looks fake vs the movies looking real
Yeah that’s what I also thought. Peter Jacksons Lotr had massive scale, but a way lower budget. The battle felt not even close to the battles we saw in the Lotr movies like how??
A good siege needs purpose and setup.
First of all we need to have a better setup of Eregion and the defenders.
-How does it work?
-How are the Elbs fighting?
-Maybe show some future battles
-maybe show some strong defence wappons
Then it is unclear why Adar attacks the hole city.
Why does he not talk to the Elbs to give him Sauron?
The blockage of the river is the big ambush. It need at least some backstorry.
How does Adar know about it?
Why do the Elbs not know?
It just seems way to easy and random.
Scriptmage has a video comparing the scale of two coronation scenes, one from TROP and the other from the house of the dragon, and you would think that HOD has 10x the budget of TROP.
It was lame to have Adar die so soon, especially after having such a momentous show of heart that proved to the audience that he might truly be a hero after all. Right when the character shines and shows potential, they kill him off. I really wanted to see more of him.
I would also love to see a lot less of the hobbit c-plot.
Yeah just stabbing him like that was a waste. They spent 7 episodes building him up for an epic showdown with Sauron only to be killed by his own orcs. He is a more interesting character then Sauron.
It’s impossible for the dark wizard to be Saruman, why then would Gandalf go to him for advice in Fellowship of the Rings?
is this the new blue wizard cope theory
this Gandalf will die and then be reborn for third age same could be appplied for Saruman
@@evansonhakeem maybe because theyre both in the white council. and saruman is the head of that council
@@evansonhakeem Good news! The showrunners said the same thing.
He's not Saruman.
Gandalf isnt even supposed to be in Middle Earth at this time so.... actually nothing in this show matters its a big mess.
11:33 what do I think will happen in season 2?
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Really waited for sauron to put on the crown and change to his iconic armor at the end
They're saving that for next season. Now that he got all the rings he has full power.
So Tom Bombadil was Olivander from Harry Potter all along😂
That was awesome when Sensai Bombadil taught Gamdalf how to wield by making his wax on/wax off his Limbo for a long time and them Gandalf was prepared to block Sauron attacks
I thought it was a Jack Black parody!
Keep all the seasons coming I want more!!!!
You are minority...There will be no season 3... Nobody likes this shit,but couple of normies
I totally agree. No idea what critics and fans are complaining about. Epic story and great visuals. They clearly spent alot of money on this show.
@@jonfreeman9682Well maybe just pick up a Tolkien book and ull see why.
@@Mitch-nx2ic You pick up a Tolkien book, we are watching the show. Go ahead and re-read your book 100 times for all we care.
@@androsforever500 U don't speak, fake Tolkien fan. U don't get to speak child.
Sauron is a really mesmerizing villain.
totally agree:)
this version of Sauron was. Season one's Halbrand was alright.
But Halbrand turning into Sauron makes no sense. Pretty sure this was not in the Tolkien appendix. Did they cook this up to fill in the gaps?
im beginning to think that maybe people shouldnt trust him
Rings of powers sauron? What makes this guymesmerizing? Plz tell us
Feanor was Celebrimbor's grandfather. His father was Curufin (who was killed in Doriath during the second kin slaying in an attempt to take the silmaril from King Dior.
Question: When Galadriel started falling off the cliff, do you think Sauron tried to reach for her or the ring or both?
I want to believe to save her but he also straight stabbed her 😭😭😭
I think Sauron wants both. He really loves Gal, but in his psychotic dark possessive way. It's like Hannibal & Will dynamic. Look at Celebrimbor - he loved him too, but still killed him. Also think he stabbed Gal with crown near her heart to corrupt her spirit from inside - "Bind to my very being"
Hahahaha.Good one
No he doesn't care for her but just wants the rings. This is the Sauron who doesn't care for anyone. But when he was Halbrand they played up this potential romance where he hinted he wanted her to be his Queen which she obviously is opposed after learning he's now Sauron. So no there's no love or care for her.
Never both, just the ring.
just started watching the clip and only because of the intro I want to say: keep it up, love your videos!
So looking forward to season 3 ! Loved it
It was clear as to why the orcs turned on Adar. That head most trusted Orc questioned Adar's love for them as his children when he forged them ahead when it appeared that they were losing in battle. When that particular Orc called Adar by name and then said to him "ADAR, You said you loved us..." before Adar made the final decision to continue the campaign that cost so many Orc lives. From that point on the Orcs developed doubt about Adar's love for them. When that trusted leader Orc found Sauron, and Sauron asked his name, Sauron no doubt engaged in some sort of dialog and sensed that apparent doubt, perhaps pretending that he loved the Orcs more so, causing that particular Orc, Adar's most trusted leader, to flip..
At the end of the episode that same orc briefed Sauron about the progress of the war telling Sauron (right before Sauron kills him) that if they continued fighting that more Orc lives would be lost, Sauron kills him. He killed him using the same reason that was used to flip him against Adar. Perhaps seeing a disdained weakness of that particular Orc when it came to other orc lives. At that point Sauron wanted no weaknesses because he had fully installed himself as the leader of the Orcs and had little concern for their lives and had no use for wimpering loose ends crying about love and how many lives being lost in battle.
It explained why the orcs turned on Adar. It doesn't explain why they would follow Sauron. Apparently the orcs just wanted peace, and they know Sauron won't provide that. I think they didn't show it, because they don't know how to explain it.
@@nicomalIt was mind control. Now they are enslaved.
First they betray Sauron to serve Adar,now they betray Adar to serve Sauron...They make perfect comedy of Orcs... It's one big joke
Sauron is no friend of the orcs and will callously kill them. Yes Adar does care more for the orcs but he knows how dangerous Sauron is so is willing to go to war and sacrifice orcs to destroy Sauron and orcs aren't happy about that but that's no reason for orcs to ally themselves with Sauron. My guess is Sauron used mind game trickery as he has the power to create illusions and convinced the orcs that he was the best choice to look after orc interests. Sauron actually showed he can do much more than create illusions but can actually control minds like he did with the elf soldiers to get them to kill each other so it's possible he is controlling the orcs to kill Adar. But that's silly in itself as Sauron is so powerful he could have just walked up and kill Adar himself without any orc help or ruse. It's obvious Sauron is way more powerful than Adar as he has power to create illusions, mind control, magic to transform himself from Halbrand to Sauron and we haven't seen all his magic powers yet. Plus he is physically strong in combat. That being said I would have liked a better ending for Adar. It's a waste of a good character after all the buildup.
One thing they never explained is why Adar is so taken with orcs and why he cares for them. He is an elf before and they're not exactly friendly with orcs.
4:40 . Feonor was celebrimbor’s grandfather not father.
When I read what you wrote under Kemen’s name I could not stop laughing.
Absolutely loved this season so far, especially this final episode! Really hope they make an amazing season 3!
say whatever you want about rings of power I appreciate them doing it its WAY better than any other marvel crap.
THIS SEASON WAS EPIC!!
3:56 - Why? Sauron has never touched the Elven Rings and has power over them.
What do the rings actually do?
@@nicomal They make you look fancy.
@@nicomalThey were created to gift those who wears them an ethereal beauty, and it’s implied it gifts them favor in their endeavors. (Likely combat prowess and interpersonal communication.) The rings also were imbued with the power to stop the Fading; basically elven immortal dementia and inevitable death.
Terrific explanation!
I can't wait for season 3.
The rings of Men will be interesting. The 9 Kings turned into Ring Wraiths. Slaves to the ring.
I fear and suspect Theo will become a ring wraith 😭
That will be epic. Peter Jackson's masterpiece never showed what happened and only told the story in a short flashback.
@@jonfreeman9682 how dare you talk about Peter Jackson's work and this piece of sh** show in the same sentence
If we ever get a cinematic telling of that, I'll lose my shit. Kinda when they showed Cirdan
great stuff
S01 : reveal identity of Sauron
S02 : destruction of Eregion
S03 : capture of Sauron by the Numenoreans
S04 : downfall of Numenor
S05 : war of the last alliance
It wasn't just being a master manipulator that enabled Sauron to turn the orcs against Adar. Or Adar's insistence on having them continue to fight when so many were being killed which caused doubt. It was Sauron's mind control!
Saw this coming after watching E6. But I still bawled when Adar was killed. 😭 Especially after he gave Galadriel back her ring. The ring did not only change his appearance. It had changed him both inside and out. Cleared the cobwebs, so to speak. But too late. 😢
he was kind of noble even soulful. will miss him.
echoes of Boromir
@@shelbyindianajones3226 Naaah.
This orc died a dogs death.
Boromir died taking many orcs with him. He died standing. They cant put him down and thats why they have to use arrows.
Theres no comparison.
I really loved this season and the last but I hate that the ratings of this series are low. I hope they will complete it😅
Totally loved season 2!
The creators of the show have already said in an interview today that the Dark Wizard being Saurmon wouldn’t make sense. So most likely it’s a blue.
Kinda hoping he's only posing as an Istari and he's just a fake.
Should've used that logic when it came to "Grandelf"
People said the same thing about Gandalf
maybe director has a plan, i guess they both will die and reborn as Istari on Third age.
Nothing that they make made any sense ,so I would not trust them
She just sat there and watched the orcs kill Adar. The most powerful she elf looked weak in episodes 6,7 and 8.
Cos the plot require her to be weak. Thus they nerf the mary sue.
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I think that the first earthquake in khaza dum had a result that boulder falls down and destroys a path way in half ,i think that in fellowship of the ring when the gang first enters Moria they find a path with stairs with a big gap ,where frodo jumps and aragorn catches him! I think its the same place....what you guys think?
Your answer is wrong
My question is why would they choose to make the stranger Gandalf when they have two blue Wizards they could have chosen from. Gandalf didn't come to Middle Earth until the third age. They really got the wrong people to do the show. They should have chose people who knew about the story.
Mainly because they are squishing a bunch of events in this. All of the events that have happened in this show take place over decades of warfare and subterfuge.
My question is, why they make gandalf a bumbling amnesiac.
Season 3 - A huge war against Sauron breaks out with Numenor Capturing him.
Season 4 - Sauron continues to corrupt eveything while in chains. Numenor is eventually drowned out. Elendil becomes King.
Season 5 - Sauron has the One Ring with the Elves and Men uniting for the Last Alliance.
Season 2 is a big step up. It feels more magical and lighting is more lotr.
I think it’s a great improvement on season one. And that’s coming from somebody who liked the first season. After finishing season two, I went back and binged season one, and while I’m not a fan of all of the writing. I think it really gets the heart of Tolken in both his theology and his themes. season two steps that up and focuses on characters that I really care about. Like both Charles Edwards and Charlie vickers performances this season are just awe-inspiring. I think there’s plenty of things to criticize about the show, like all shows, but I think the strong fan base who likes it really likes it and I’m one of them. Also, my God, Barry McCreery!! If you don’t agree with me on anything else, you have to agree that Bear McCreary is just killing it.
I love it! some parts were dragging, but overall it's a great show and all the storylines of Middle Earth and why everything happened ties to the future in what happens in LOTR in the 3rd age...
This is a bad ass show. Kudos to amazon prime. Love the whole middle earth world
Loved it, Sauron was amazing. Really excited for Season 3, Can't wait for this story to lead up to the LOTR prologue. I hope they redo the scenes from that with the new actors. Isildur ! lol
Can't wait for Season 3
I was as entertained as that time I had constipation for a week.
THAT WAS A BADASS WAY FOR A DWARF TO DIE !!! Personally i loved the dwarf plot .
It really reminded me of the last scene with Matthew McConaughey versus the dragon in Reign of Fire.
It was really cool. I was worried they would do the fall of Kazzadum in one episode. They stayed down there for almost a year fighting the Balrog. They closed off the mine and no one really knows what happened in that year.
Serious bad assery but what exactly was the point of jumping with an 🪓 to his death? But epic ending. Guess when he took off the ring he realized his mistake and tried to make amends?
Don't try to understand the work of retar...ded people... much less explain them. Otherwise you are probably part of this generation of talentless people. 10 years ago, these films or series would never have seen the light of day.
What was badass? If the balrog just move two metres back, the dwarf would have fallen into his death without the balrog even lifting a finger. And like all scenes with big monsters: they do not pose a threat because like the worm and Arondir or the troll and Elrond or the ghosts in the forest, just one or two hits with the sword and they're gone... boring.
To be clear.. the elven rings are not corrupt by Sauron making Elrond wrong? Or they are corrupt????
Which is it??
The rings are whatever they need to be as the "plot" requires them to be.
@@GWNorth-db8vn thanks
The rings were not corrupt, until they made the 9 rings for men, which was stated that they have a connection with the elven rings. So they were not corrupt, but will be.
One undoing Sauron I think was a reference to ONE RING. Not Frodo.
We have to wait for another 2 yrs 😭😭
Season 2 had more action. First season was stretchy, they onlyv revealed sauron in last episode. Until this you didn't really know where the storyline is headed and what is the purpose of the characters. So in season 2 the purpose is clear and everything is in action towards to that
Great season, much better than season 1.
Can't wait to see season 2.
Y’all really reaching for the hate here - this season was not bad. I enjoyed Sauron and celebrimbor’s scenes
Oh really, literally nothing has happened... This show is garbage
Oh that’s so nice of you but tell me how any of this makes sense? Isildir is in the beginning of the first. Live and this show is suppose to be thousands of years before that
Your opinion. Shockingly, it's not the only one.
Shut up. It's an abomination. haha
@@FablesOutofSpace(has never watched a single episode of RoP)
Sauron and his deception are so true of the present world leaders and the battle of the common man with everything around it. Even though it is a work of fiction, I simply loved the way Sauron's character is presented, evil that is prevalent, silent, cunning and highly manipulative.
Lol fr? This show is balls
Disguised as love and willingness to help those who cannot help themselves Sauron's deception is deep. Even after Celebrimbor knew who he truly was he was still manipulated to complete the rings. Looking at both candidates for president of the US, i see this manipulation.
People supporting this dog shit show have mental issues
It also shows how seductive the quest for power is and how it can devour good people.
@@MaryBrod-ie9wi it's by no means supposed to convey that. Sauron is just pure evil, there is no process here.
Thank you
When I first watched Season 1 last year, I though, "Meh - entertaining, but not so good." This year, after watching S2, E1, decided to go back and watch Season 1 again. Liked it better the second time. But Season 2 was still so much better!
I love it fr, I also like how during shattered the balrogs blade it looked like which explains why it doesn't have a sword when gandalf fights it.
... this specific outro is so soothing to me ... i really like it , a lot.
Why didn’t it show Where and how the dwarfs came to their aid? Like they just spawned on the road and started shooting the orcs and fighting them
Loved season 2
Season 2 was much better than Season 1. The writing is still crappy at times but it's getting better. Sauron and Celebrimbor, Elrond, the Dwarves and Elendil kinda carries this series for me thus far.
Nori is the mother of bilbo baggins. 😅
Arondir fake death. Seems to be a tradition in TV fantasy these days
I don't hate this show, but I don't love it 🤷🏻♀ I watch it but I often find myself fast forwarding through it when I get bored... but I still wanna know what's going to happen, even when technically I know what's going to happen 🤣
However, if someone asked me, I would trade this series for a 2nd season of My Lady Jane without having to think twice 😆
I skipped all the Hobbits parts 😃.
People that like shows like that can’t comprehend RoP
@@nonamename4367 🥳🤣
Not sure I buy Sauron crying.. he is the ultimate evil
People are complex Noone is the ultimate evil everyone has cracks and pain hidden deep it is what it is i like the expansion of his character he was barely a character in the lots or hobbit
So, Frodo was alone...in a Fellowship...
the sam erasure is real
@@universalcollective427 ikr?!
I think he meant one RING alone, not one person
@eduardofranco8528 thank you lol. English is hard for others I guess.
@@eduardofranco8528Pretty sure if he meant one ring, he would have said the word "ring" specifically.
Don't know if it was a money problem or a director problem.
S2 is amazing and I can't wait for s3
You joking right?
@@predragdjedovic no
@@najidelarosa well that is just sad
I believe he was talking about Gollum, not Frodo!
Celebrimbor was the grandson of feanor. Not his son
Feanor is the GRANDFATHER of Celebrimbor, not father.
Who cares.
Elrond marry guy-lad-riel.
Theres no canon whatsoever, showrunners said so, therefore it must be true.
@@eleethtahgra7182 Elrond married Celebrian, or did you forget to read the books?
They could still have made an incredible series and *NOT* ripped up so much of Tolkien's original canon. So many times during this show I've just thought "WTF?"
Feanor was Celebrimbor's grandfather.
If the rings have these healing powers why not just put it on Galadriel when she decided to suicide jump off a cliff? If mithril was what saved the realm of London why did they need rings at all? Just sprinkle mithril everywhere? What do these things actually do? It's very consistent
You Numbnut
Lets Stick to season 3 anyone knows the date?
The season 2 has been excellent. Waiting for Wheels of Time now.
The ending of Lord of the Rings Return of the King would of been way better if Sauron actually had a form where the audience could actually see him suffer and then die instead of eye in the sky that doesn't show pain. The good guys suffer the whole movie and the ultimate bad guy is dead in 5 seconds the bad guy should suffer the same or more in the end
I disagree with suffering part,but I agree they should show him in his physical form,even before ending,and he should have more screen present
I really hope we see the ring wrathes or nazgull they look epic i and really hope we saron in his full dark gear he looks so cool in that i wouldn't mind if they took something from the shadow of mordor game and put that in the show would be cool if they did
i loved it,,, not all of it but
I know it destroys all the lore.. and it's definitely a flawed show. But I kinda loved season 2 in the end.
Can’t expect books=show/cinema at 100%. It’s awesome for the rights they have
I liked it a lot. Peter Jackson’s movies were not 100% faithful to the books but that doesn’t make them any less awesome. Same with this series. Season 1 was a little uneven but I think it started firing on cylinders with season 2.
Could the dark wizard be the witch king of AMGAR?
What beats me is that why that balrog who is easily able to smash through mountain rocks even bedrock had not come forth till During or During came down to him to say hello I mean he can get out of there but why he had not
Tolkien claimed it was sleeping till disturbed by them mining deep - i.e. breaking into its caves
This season (Not taking into account The Property as a whole but simply as A Series) was 100 times more intriguing and Simply better than the first in every aspect. Most importantly In my opinion the writing.
Lmao
Joking right?
First season was mostly setup of characters so it took half a season to get the story going. But this season is gets more interesting with the crafting of the rings. It's a pretty good story which was never covered in Peter Jackson's 6 part movies. Definitely an improvement and ignore the critics who just complain about diverse elves. That being said the Halbrand to Sauron transition is ridiculous. And Gandalf takes way too long to remember his powers.
@@jonfreeman9682
The Series is an absolute desaster. I wouldn't give a shit, if it wasn't meant to be a LotR franchise. But it's a slap in the face for any true fan. Or at least somebody, who thinks space and time and logic would be relevant.
Very very good TV show! As a fan of Lord Of the Rings Movies and Books i really liked it!
You are not fan of movies or books ..You are classic troll
@@predragdjedovic don't tell me who I am ,you don't know me. I really like the show and it's not so strange, it's done right! I am just sick of haters voices to be the loudest,my opinion is positive so GTFO of my comment hater.
While it's not terrible, a lot of character develoment was sacrificed for the plot, often very dull and the intrigue was subpar since Sauron was right when he said to Calebrimbor that they think too highly of him. They basically put themselves in the situation and Galadriel doesn't seem to learn her lesson, all of it could have been avoided so many times. I did like the Dwarven characters and story, Elrond was alright and seemed to be the only one with a brain. The Numenor coup was forced, people seem to switch loyalty from one person to the next on a whim and feels inauthentic with lots of wattery eyes acting and supposed emotional stories that also feel forced and rushed. Sauron his actor and persona was well done but didn't fit the pacing of other main characters, everything together I'd give it a 6.5/10
@@masteraso you newer read one book in your life ...
Sauron is actually the good guy. The elves deceive and betray each other, humans, ururks. Even Adar just used the orks and used his father image to manipulate them - which led to his fall. Sauron just wants to put an end to it and bring peace but is forced to play with their rules. Elves as well as Gandalf just used Bilbo and Frodo later as well, willingly. The elves, human and dwarf societies were rotten. Sauron later just used their behaviour to each other against them. Even in our reality, humans are rotten and not fit to govern themselves, would be better if AI would take Control, because humans are just way too rotten and history proved that over and over. Humans should not be allowed to govern themselves.
To me, everything with gandalf and "saruman" made no sense. Saruman is meant to be a power of good in the hobbit so why is he evil as far back?
The sauron part with anatar on the other end i actually enjoyed
As much as I enjoyed the Balrog scene, it paints the writers into a huge plot hole corner. Instead of thousands of years of Khazad-dum’s greatness, now it’s a good couple of years. The wrong Durin (III vs VI) gets killed, ok fine creative licensing, but his son doesn’t make note of what he actually saw as “Durin’s Bane”? Unlike the books, there were surviving witnesses to the Balrog’s presence. Balin sure would’ve appreciated a post-it note or something. Or Durin telling of his father’s death to his brother from another mother Elrond, who might’ve seen but definitely would’ve heard of Balrogs in the first age, as Gil-Galad’s herald?
Describe a Balrog without actually describing a Balrog. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
Elrond would have mentioned it to Galadriel or Gil-Galad, whose father was actually killed by a Balrog. Or go to Glorfindel and say “remember that time you died? What did that dude look like that murdered you?” It changes the Fellowship of the Ring where the White Council would’ve said “Balrog? Under no circumstances go thru Moria with the ring!” No Moria, no Gandalf the White, no Sharkey, etc.
Sauron steals the show❤
Yes. The evil guy who cause countless death and countless widows n orphans.
Lets root for him.
Feanor was Celebrimbors GRANDfather
If this was a silent movie and put events back in order cut it into 5 episodes total. Score is good.
Even story Is terrible we have to agree the cgi and fight scene are on top
Me when seeing the ring: yeah I don’t want my fingers to get degloved
Clearly the stranger was Gandalf from season 1. And the Dark wizard is Saruman. Even though this makes no sense. I believe the show runners are not imaginative enough for anything else.
Incredible Loved Every Bit Of It..❤❤❤
Vickers Is The Sexiest Man , Since William Holden...
Can't Believe I'm In Love With Sauron 😮😂
And I Just Adore Isialdur ❤❤
Please Don't Change Any Actor's For Season 3🙏🏻🙏🏻
I Preferred The First "Adar"..
This Guy Looked Too Macho For The Part..
The First Guy Was More Evily Etherial 🤔
Same here😂 I would have been his queen 😂
No, not Sauron for me! Adar! ❤️ lol. And 💔 . I bawled when he was killed. 😭 😭😭. Even though I knew after E6 that Sauron was going to use mind control to have the Uraks/orcs kill him and to enslave them. Also like Isildur and Elendil!!!
There will not be season 3
...It will get cancelled like Acolyte season 2