PS4 Pro vs. PS5 Pro?
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
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PS4 Pro vs. PS5 Pro? In today's video we go into the detailed price and spec evolution of Playstation consoles from 2013 - 2024. Specifically, we'll discuss whether the PS4 to PS4 Pro update was better than what we perceive the leap from PS5 to PS5 Pro to be.
EDIT: my inflation comparison is meant to showcase if you had to spend almost $800 for a complete console in 2013, it would be like spending over $1,000 today due to inflation and increased cost of manufacturing.
Enjoy!
Nice video, happy to be one of your first subscribers. But I need to point out a mistake or at least a misleading inflation calculation you have there. The row with inflation adjusted price doesn't really makes sense. Around 11:50, you said that it's over 1000 usd in 2013 dollar which is wrong, it's the other way around. Dollar is losing value, therefore 700 usd today would be like 500 and change in 2013 dollars. Price of 400 usd PS4 at launch would be something under 600 today etc. You can see it's ridiculous just looking at the price jump between ps5 og and slim. This sort of comparison should be calculated the other way around to provide a clear overview - adjusting the historical pricing to the current value of dollar. You should put a disclaimer or correct it somehow. If you want to learn more about inflation, check out some economy books like 'hazlitt economics in one lesson'
Thanks for commenting and I appreciate you calling this out! You are correct and what I meant to convey is that if you had to spend almost $800 on a console in 2013, it would be like spending over $1000 today - emphasizing how ridiculous that sounds. It could have been described a little better vs saying “in 2013 dollars”. I’ll try and see if I can make a tweak without taking down the video.
Looks like I can't make an edit to the video, but I'll pin this comment in case how it's explained confuses anyone else.
@@GaminGadgets Yeah I get your point, it's important to put the price in the context. Appreciate you accept the feedback! Keep up the good work man :)
@@BillFoster-st4hj Useful feedback is a gift I'll always happily take. Thank you, and more to come!
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PS4 Pro cost 25% more than the PS4 and added 4K support. PS5 Pro costs 75% more than the PS5 and adds no new functionality. Did they ever even mention the 8K promise they made years ago?
I need to read up some more on that but I just think it upscales to 8k on TVs that have the capacity to display at that resolution, and it's not actually the PS5 rendering at 8k. I personally haven't seen it in action yet.
Sony took the 8k stickers off the ps5 box about a year ago
That is my main problem with the PS5 pro, they are re-selling what they promised with PS5.
@@GaminGadgetsit's just the maximum output resolution. It doesn't mean there's any software that takes advantage of it
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Im still playing on my PS4 Pro since launch, cleaned it inside out various and replaced the thermal paste, and it still runs great!
Just got recommended randomly on UA-cam it's going to blow up good luck 🤞
Thanks for watching! That’s pretty awesome to hear.
It didn't
@@OriginalStachuJones are u serious rn! . Man ppl really think u should hit 1M on ur early videos.
Right now, Sony is designing the PS6 making it all digital, pricing it at $1,000, and making it more ugly and unstable so consumers will have to buy more stand accessories.
lol 🤣
Nonsense bro , digital is too much for the ps6 , they are making it cloud only for that 1k price
@@Big_FolksYou mean we dont even get the console. But have to stream everything from a pc...? 😂
No way they will do that unless xbox leaves. Maybe PS7
I'm just glad I'd be able to play PS4 games with better graphics on the PS5 Pro. 🫢 /s
The fact that 90% of the PS5 games are also on PS4 just makes the Pro model unnecessary
nah 90% is too generous. 99% i guess
No, it's not. I want better performance. No I don't want a PC.
@@deacubogdan2263 " I want better performance, but not on PC "
Sorry kid you're out of luck.
@@deacubogdan2263copeing hard. What a waste of money. you shouldn’t support them being so anti consumer. But I guess this shows you’ll buy anything Sony makes. You think it’s ok they took the stand out of the box for a “pro” model ? Or took away a disk drive for a “pro” model. Get real. No one should be buying this rip off.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombathow is he out of luck ? They literally announced ps5 pro so that means he is in luck
I thinks it’s funny they had to zoom in the see the changes and most people still couldn’t see them waste of 700 dollars
How will we see a difference where there is none ? lol this console is a scam.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat they didn’t even upgrade the cpu, 2 out of 3 of the “new things” were just upgraded gpu
PS4 pro was a more substantial upgrade over ps4 it was the first attempt at 4k and 60 frames per second. If you had a 4k HDR uhdtv like me it was a clear upgrade all around. I don't even see a big improvement with the PS5 it's marginal at best. Only load time was the clear difference between PS4 pro and PS5.
To me, the loading times plus ray tracing were the most noticeable upgrades in this generation of consoles (PS5 + Xbox Series X), but I always opt for performance mode so I don't get the benefit of ray tracing in any of the games I play either.
@@GaminGadgets 🤣 I forgot about the ray tracing but even then it's not worth 500 dollars especially 4 years into the console.
@@GaminGadgets just throw in a high end SSD (Sony 870 EVO 1TB SSD $95) in your PS4 Pro and watch the loading time drop, and be much closer to the PS5 speeds. HDD is a dinosaur now, so can't blame the PS4 Pro for being slower loading when it has a HDD.
Not much difference only just loading time difference between these two console PS4 pro and PS5...but still ps4 pro works great!!!
@@Ayari-t6b I agree I'm still playing on my PS4 pro and Xbox one x. And Xbox 360
Can we stop with these 99 bs? Just say 400 and 700. Cool video tho
Ha, “.99” is the Marketing Teams’ favorite number. And thank you!
Especially since in north america they hide the taxes. They don't show the "all in pricing" like elsewhere in the world, so people are likely to spend more
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I mean for your first Video its really good and informative, keep up that quality !!
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Runescape music on a Playstation video? Bro got 99 video making 😂
I put all my skill points into nostalgia and vibes. Thanks for the feedback my friend 😂
I don't wanna pay 699 for a a nicer tree 💀
you guys are too stupid to see the deference. go watch digital foundry comparison. Sony did a shiit job in showcasing this . console heads be like.
So glad you blew up, tons of effort and professional quality from your video, hope you continue to grow.
I really appreciate this, thank you! I’m editing the next video as we speak.
Good video quality straight to the point and you go over the details. Expect to rise pretty quickly on yt 100%
Thank you for the kind words! More to come.
The production value on this video is awesome. I'll be completely honest I dont even care about the PS5 Pro, this video was just interesting as hell
That means a lot, thank you! More to come across a variety of gaming topics.
I just dont like the idea of a "PRO" console refresh 3 years after you bought your console. So now you're supposed to feel like an amateur with your original console?! There should only be one of each generation, full stop. All they're doing, with the fidelity vs performance is turning consoles into PCs. Im literally at the point where I'm about to forsake the consoles and just go PC Master race. Goodbye Sony and Xbox
Instead of taking 2 consoles and then their pro models I got a 100-1200 dollars PC. And it has been great decision this gen.
I recently even completed GOW3 on PC with 50+ FPS, VRR, and 1080 p because it was on a laptop. It's something that not even pro can do.
Switch 2 may deal a serious blow.
@@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s Switch 2 will have Nvidia tech so expect Frame Generation too on that. With that alone it could rock 60 fps on that little screen.
Subscribed! Great video i look forward to more in depth analysis gaming videos
Thank you so much! I look forward making them.
Remember how almost no games got a PS4 Pro update?
Well, here we go again…
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Thank you so much!
You just started and the video quality is insane 🔥 great job man keep it up!
Thank you for that! More to come.
this just foreshadows that a PS6 will be around the 1k mark...
True story I was scrolling through UA-cam and your video was the only one that actually had an interesting title/idea about the ps5 p4o as all others have just been complaining only videos which have lost my interest slowly but yours is genius, and right at the beginning with the presentation I enjoyed the feel of professionalism and when you said you have 0 subscribers as of the making of this video I literally stopped and came across your channel which I have never done before good stuff 👏👏👏
This truly means a lot, thank you for the feedback. Even I'm surprised at the reception of the video in such a short time. Glad I can talk about a topic I really enjoy and people seem to like it! Currently planning the next one.
It's my pleasure big guy 🙌
Keep up the good work. Subbed. This vid is getting you noticed
Thank you! It’s been an interesting couple days for sure. Next video is in the oven as we speak.
When you get succesfull from youtube dont forget to gift me a ps5 pro
you earned a sub keep growing
Haha thank you so much. It means a lot!
Me to😊
Love the Runescape background music
Thank you for a very pragmatic and insightful perspective. Loved your analysis and comparisons.
Thank you for watching and for the feedback! More to come.
Your production value is so much higher than I was expecting! This was an amazing video, making me subscriber #315
Thank you 315 times haha! It means a lot. More to come.
hey bro great video i subbed you definitely have the voice and talent for a YT channel
Thank you, that means a lot!
i still have a ps3,ps4 pro and ps5 and i gotta say when i got the ps4 pro you could see changes but with ps5 pro it seems so non existent on changes whether with ps4 pro you could see extraordinary changes such as 4K etc and boost mode
I think once we get some hands on time we'll be able to really tell. At least I hope so. I agree I remember when I first threw Red Dead 2 into my PS4 Pro, I was amazed by how good it looked.
I'm on the opposite spectrum, got a ps1, ps2 and ps3, intending on getting a used ps4 pro down the line, although i'm mainly a pc gamer, i love playstation too, especially the older ones
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Play sure has some limits
"Pay has no limits"
@@fgvcosmic6752”this is for the payers”
For me it's only 800€ for the console + 170€ for the disc drive and 30€ for the stand. 1000€ (1200$) just to play gta 6 and... that's it
@@Kim_Jong-ald_Trunp god dang
I actually lol'd haha
At last someone who's mature on this topic.
Appreciate the feedback! I try to keep an objective view of the big picture but still sprinkle in some of my own thoughts.
I think they will bring out the PS5 Pro + Disc.
I only have the PS4 Pro and it’s still a beast.
Great video! Loved the explanation!
Glad you enjoyed, and thank you!
bro is underrated. You deserve a million subs atleast
Thank you 🙏🏼
Man your content is good slow I like it
Thank you!
wait what, 0 subs? I tought this was a big channel! I am a fan!
Thank you 🙏🏼 3 days ago I was at 0, but this video has def changed that!
Pro versions are never worth it unless you don’t have the base system.
At that point, wait for the next true upgrade.
$399 in 2016 adjusted for inflation is $517
$499 in 2020 adjusted for inflation is $596... I stg ppl don't take into account the extremely bad inflation that has occurred over the past 4 years 🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
11:45 Guys he adjusted inflation backwards, here are the actual prices of consoles in 2013 value.
PS4 Slim:
2016- $299
2013- $290
PS4 Pro:
2016- $399
2013- $387
PS5:
2020- $499
2013- $449
PS5 Slim:
2023- $499
2013- $382
PS5 Pro
2024- $699
2013- $517
And since this video was comparing PS5 Pro to the PS4 Pro, a PS4 Pro would cost $523 in todays money. A PS5 Pro would cost $532 in 2016 money.
Appreciate the feedback - a few others also pointed this out. You are correct and it’s probably the better way to show it. My viewpoint is if you had to go spend almost $800 for a console back in 2013, it would be like spending over $1000 today. Ridiculous either way!
Great video 👍🏽 Also, the PS4 Pro was a really good looking console; one of the best, if not the best, looking ones I've ever seen. That triple slate design is still a classic. I can't say the same for the PS5 or PS5 Pro which look like stuffed folders.
Thank you! Also I’m surprised how many people still prefer the PS4 after 4 years of the PS5. Shows how good of a console it is.
The target audience for the PS5 Pro is even more niche than that:
• “Enthusiasts” of games created by Sony subsidized game developers (given the eventual tiny install base it makes little sense for regular developers to dedicate resources to optimize specifically for the PS5 Pro)
• Owners of 8K displays who are willing to pay for a different, guess‑timate fidelity experience via PSSR (given that even in PC games the source tends to render at just 1440p before being upscaled).
There is also the implicit signal towards the 50% of the PSN customer base still on PS4 to just cough up the cash and get a standard PS5 at 449.99/499.99 or perhaps a certified refurbished console at 349.99/399.99.
However if Pro pricing is also representative of what to expect for PS6 it also signals “console gamers” that “Sony gaming” may be too rich for their blood going forward. Given that some PC-first games have *only* been ported to Switch due to the attractive install base, if Nintendo can transfer that to the Switch 2 (barring Wii U syndrome) for around $400 then it may be the only “true console” left next generation.
Comparison's of consoles, including the Pro, with PC are specious:
• Thanks to the cross-gen gaming landscape it was possible to game on a standard PS4 for 11 years (2013) and PS4 Slim/Pro 8 years (2016). That would have been difficult to pull off during the same period on a gaming PC without upgrades given that typical PC game developers don't seem to value delivering an acceptable experience to older hardware (constrained but stable, consistent console specs may not be convenient but tend to be more straightforward to optimize for).
• In JayzTwoCents recent “$700 Custom PC vs PS5 Pro... FIGHT!” it was clear that the $700 price point is awkward-it would make perfect sense to spend $800 to get the more recent upscaling technology. So typically PC Gaming either means frugal and adept handling of the used market (outside of the interest of the mainstream) or spending more to get the most bang for the buck in the new market (still not mainstream).
2016:
299 PS4 Slim
399 PS4 Pro
For a 34% price increase:
30% CPU and 100% GPU boost (Forbes citing Sony)
2024:
449.99 PS5 Digital (no disk)
699.99 PS5 Pro (no disk)
For a 56% price increase:
Optional 10% CPU boost
67% GPU boost
Sony proprietary guess‑timate upscaling
The key bit of information here is that there is no CPU boost unless the developer specially optimizes for PS5 Pro and given its inevitably small install base there is little economical incentive to do so unless the developer is subsidized by Sony.
Furthermore higher frame rates would require more CPU and 10% isn't going to cut it which is consistent with the same frame performance but maximum *perceived* fidelity messaging of the PS5 Pro.
But given that 75% of gamers select “performance mode” on PS5 it's questionable that this segment would spend 56% more to improve perceived fidelity with the *the same* frame rate performance.
The remaining 25% already settled for a lower frame rate to experience improved perceived fidelity-so it's questionable whether they would be willing to pay 56% more to improve their frame rate; unless they already have an 8K display and even more money to burn.
These are all great points, if I didn't already have a comment pinned, this would be it!
Eeeh, if you bought high end in 2013 you could still be gaming on it today, but it would of had to have been top of the line or near enough
2016 though would be absolutely doable, the 1060, while far from amazing these days, can still run modern games (that don’t need mesh shaders) at reasonable performance if you tone down the settings
@@Coliflower185 In 2013 a PS4 was $399-during that time people talked about a $2500 budget for a “high end” PC. And in 2016 the PS4 slim was $299 while a GTX 1060 was MSRP: $249, Founders $299 (still missing the other components to build a rig).
So that comparison really doesn't work.
Microsoft has taught Sony well how to be greedy, but now they are going a bit far.Everything Microsoft introduced to console gaming used to be free at one time and now we as gamers pay for it. Just to name a few for console, Online gaming, dlc, gamerpics, Avatar gear. And now they keep raising the prices of all their things.
They are going to make gamers despise them more then anyone.with all their decisions they are making lately.
Dlc existed before Xbox, companies like the Sims and other games had expansion and add on packs.
Dlc pretty much didn't exist on console before Xbox.
And online play was also basically non existent before Xbox. The few games that did support it usually had their own paid subscriptions.
I see what you were doing with your inflation chart but there’s something else there to note. Since 2013, we have gotten more than 5x+ the performance at less than 2x the cost (on those with published numbers).
Like yeah you can make the point that PlayStations are more in real dollars but the dollars paid per unit of performance actually gets much better overtime.
Everything they did for the PS4 Pro felt reasonable: CPU, GPU, hard drive, making the base PS4 cheaper. Any possible benefit to the PS5 Pro is undermined by that price.
Just bought a ps4 slim after years of wanting one and i couldn't be happier, there's nothing on ps5 that i want to play that isn't on the ps4
I wonder how Jedi Survivor will run on PS4?
The Best comparison video I've seen so far for the PS5 pro . Definitely does not seen worth it to get a PS5 Pro. In my opinion, it's better to stick with PS4 Pro or go with a PS5 / PS5 slim at most.
Thank you! I think you’re right for the majority of people.
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Thank you, UA-cam algorithm 😂. Thanks for watching, too.
You forgot to mention that the vertical stand costs $30 separately
Me with a PS4 slim and LEGO Marvel Super Heroes: 😂
Just a reminder PS4 had a 1.84 tflop GPU, the PS4 pro had 4.2 tflop, that's more than double in raw compute performance
I’m thinking that I’ll wait 4 years and see how many revisions the ps5 pro goes through, pick up the best model at the end like I did with the ps4 pro. I put a 4tb ssd in my 4 Pro, cleaned it out completely and repasted and thermal padded it. Runs great, runs whisper quiet.
Ps3 to was to most strongest sony ever built they just never cared that much to unlock it true power just my opinion
Interesting! What makes you choose the PS3? I think for me, the PS2 holds the most sentimental value but PS4 Pro seemed to be the best all around system based on games, performance, etc. Although the initial (expensive) PS3's had full backwards compatibility which was amazing. If I'm not mistaken, they did away with it with future PS3 versions.
@@GaminGadgets not downplaying the amazing games an graphical change the ps2 brought to gaming I just believe they went the wrong direction .......like all that effort into GPU for the ps5 pro they could have made a ps3 CPU part 2 give it tweaks use the ram from the ps5 ....an make the ps5 fully backwards compatible....cause Sony is just nickel an dining there customers for graphical improvements which doesn't matter cause its already great....just by remastering demon souls shows they know ps2 ps3 was were the hearts of true gamers are....us gamers wants a challenging gameplay experience with games which are finish an that the company we buy from don't forget were they all started at the bottom an if they keep treating us this way they be at the bottom real soon...also charging for a stand is plain right disgusting.....its why I bought ps3 like 4times already .....now I have a nodded 4.90 hen which play all games from ps2 to ps3 to ps1 an retro.....its sad that the nodded community knows what us gamers want an Sony still do not..
I would have paid 900dollars if Sony let the ps5 pro play ps3 games an ps2 games...that would be innovation at its peak...imagine how happy the gaming community would be if it was possibly
I like your opinion but the reality is that the instruction set used by the CELL BE CPU which powered the PS3 was very different to what most programmers were used to. It required a very specialised skill set for the developers to optimally extract the full performance of the PS3. Even to this day, enhancements to the PS3 emulators are still being made because it was so complicated to code for that CELL BE instruction set.
underrated
Thank you 🙏🏼 more to come.
Your video came up on my UA-cam for gaming best of luck 🤞🏻 I hope your videos take off much appreciated I have to be honest I always pick graphics over performance 🎭 but that’s just me 😅
Thank you so much!
Right now, the PS5 is the best value console. Once you upgrade the hard drive, it basically beats out the Pro. Free disk drive, free stand (idk if it's changed), similar looking graphics, and similar gaming experience.
It's a no brainer that the PS5 stumps the Pro, given that the necessary upgrades are made.
Despite newer console from Sony like PS5/Pro, PS4(Phat/Slim/Pro) still remains the popular choice for new comers. Dev's are still developing games for the PS4 due to its massive user base makes it more profitable even though it's already outdated in terms of raw performance.
Besides there's only few games that fully utilize the PS5's features, you'll notice that most new games that are released in PS5 has a PS4 counter part.
Lemme hold $10,000 when you start getting the money in.. I'm tryna go to Indonesia to fight komodo dragons
Keep up the good content bro now is a great time to be a gamer
Thank you! And it sure is. Looking forward to making some more videos.
aside from the cost increase, ps5 pro also does not have a disc drive and vertical stand. Sony just got too greedy on that one and it's definitely going to blow up on them hard
The ps4 was a substantial upgrade from the ps4 or ps4 slim. I remember playing gta 5 on the pro was a much more steady framerate and on the ps4 and ps4 slim it was unplayable after 2021.
I remember it was a noticeable difference when I first played something on my PS4 Pro. Hoping in person the PS5 Pro will give that same feeling.
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Great video, tbh yeah besides people that want the extra performance I don't see the point of getting this console, in my opinion since the start of the PS5 these consoles have been lacking in some way or another, I don't think I will buy another console besides Nintendo, I made the switch back in 2019 to PC and I don't think I will go back.
Thank you!
Bruh when u blow up (and u will) dont forget i was here!
Great video tho!
I sincerely appreciate it! I love all this (very unexpected) support and am looking forward to releasing the next video. Thank you!
The thing that freaks me out the most about the PS5 Pro is the lack of disc drive...the price is already a nightmare but the lack of disc drive demotivates me even if I had the cash.
Most of the time when I play console I want the solid copies of the games if possible...PS5 standard used there is a possibility if it goes on sale.
PS5 Pro can go collect dust in their store for all I care and I didn't buy PS4 Pro in the first place as the original did everything I wanted.
The PS5 Pro went the extra mile to be a problem though.
Great video, very professional. I believe Sony knows the demographic that will buy the Pro and they would buy one at any price. It might be too expensive for some (me) but it has the right price point for the buyer.
Thank you! I agree, but it also gives me some concerns on how much the PS6 will cost, and whether it too will be offered without a disk drive. Reminds me of when Apple did away with the 3.5mm jack and we either got a lightning dongle to attach headphones or went full Bluetooth/wireless headphones.
@@GaminGadgets I know it's a radical thought but I suspect PS6 will be a VR only console. Check out Apple Vision Pro--iPad in your face; Apple drove USB adoption. So no physical media.
@@michaelhill6453 I would be shocked if it was truly VR-only, but to that point I really think VR will be making more of a mainstream impact in the next 2-5 years as tech and wearability improves. I think Meta Quest 2 sold something like 20 million units, but they've had difficulty retaining. Not nearly as many Meta Quest 3 sales. That said, I have been on the fence on buying PSVR 2.
Its a a refined experience. That's all it is. Games will be 1440p minimum and 60 fps shouldn't dip.
If you care about slightly blurry games or screen tear it's probably a good up-grade as the pro will improve both.
Disk drive is important for me as I'm old.. also don't like that digital is usually more expensive than physical...
Those disk drives that have been swooped up are going to be resold for $150
near 1100$CAD btw
To play games that hardly look better than the PS4 ones and in smaller number and at higher price points? Sony started looking at us like dumb cash cows
really good video bro
Thank you! More to come.
@@GaminGadgets maybe talk about Xbox one X vs series S and their respective spots in the market
@@emperornike Appreciate the idea. I plan on covering all consoles/games here so I'm sure I'll do some type of Xbox video too. I have a bunch of ideas.
It's a great time to buy a used PS4 Pro, I bought one last year for 200$CAD. I already have a gaming PC so now I get to play the Sony exclusives and for the other games I use my PC, the taxes alone for a PS5 Pro would be nearly the amount I paid for my PS4 Pro.
I saw a used ps4 pro for $160 the other day
PS4 Pro is the same as og PS4 but stuff is rendered in 4k quality, PS5 Pro is the same as PS5 but with slight AI scaling & saturated pixels (PSSR). Overall the differences are barely noticeable, watch the graphics comparisons & see for yourself.
I personally noticed a small difference in draw distance and distant details. But that was a spot-the-difference on a static image. I'm certain in actual gameplay, the only noticeable difference would be a steadier 60fps
Let's milk the Customer.
Thing is soon you have to pay a monthly fee for everything.
Sony is trying to be Apple, but they forgot that their fans are actually sane.
It is ridiculous that the ps5 Pro isn't like the ps5, would've been better if it followed the ps5's original price where with the years after the ps5's release, the price would've gone down so if it's digital version, it could've been the same price as the ps5 disc version while the disc version could've been 100 price more and it would have included the stands for both versions like the previous versions.
If they did that route, the ones who didn't get the ps5 on release can get it cheaper while those who had bought the ps5 full price would've bought the pro at the same price or an additional 100 on top of it.
PS4 PRO WAS SOMETHING CALLED A MIRACLE AND THE PS5 PRO IS SOMETHING CALLED TRASH
Still playing the ps3 .. Got a second hand ps4 only last couple months with 18 games 150 bucks. Games worth more then the console.
You did the inflation calculation backwards.
Appreciate the feedback - a few others also pointed this out. You are correct and it’s probably the better way to show it calculated the other way. My viewpoint is if you had to go spend almost $800 for a console back in 2013, it would be like spending over $1000 today. Ridiculous either way!
@@GaminGadgets Right, what games console was $800 in 2013? $518.00 in 2013 would be $699.98 today by the way
that USSR joke made me chuckle for quite a while
Your inflation prices are the wrong way. The PS5 Pro would actually be cheaper in 2013 money. It would be better to inflate the older consoles to 2024 money. For instance the PS4 would cost around $540 in todays money.
Thanks for the feedback, a few people commented the same. My perspective (which I admittedly could have done a better job explaining), was if someone was to charge nearly $800 for a completed console in 2013, it would be over $1,000 today. You are absolutely correct though if we look BACK and see how much today's dollars would be worth in 2013, etc.
@@GaminGadgetsthere’s a fundamental flaw in your thinking/perspective bro. The value that Sony gets by charging you 700$ in 2013 is far greater than the value they get by charging the same money today. So, no one would have charged 700$ in 2013 like you assume
Working the value backwards is the right way.Your calculation/perspective provides no use to the video or the situation.
@@GaminGadgetsif you still don’t get how dumb your calculation is,if someone were to charge 5$ for a mc cheese burger in 1913,it would be more than 150$ today.
See, does this calculation provide any usefulness or conclusion to us?no right?
PS4 Pro second hand is AU$250. A PS5 is $750 new. The PS5 Pro will be $1200. The funny things is that most games run amazingly on the PS4 Pro. There are almost no PS5 exclusives. There is no good reason to get a PS5 of any flavour.
PS4 Pro has a incredible design. It fits flawless in my interior. The PS5 and the pro look like a abomination. They should fire the one who accepted these horrible designs
You can add a disc drive unfortunately it should’ve been included
PS6 probably focuses on path tracing and stuff. It's the next logical step over ray tracing.
I think Xbox would do well to ignore this release. Don't put anything out for another 2-3 years and come out strong with real upgrades to the system. They really cant compete with a used PC right now, the chart with resolutions really shows where the benefits come into play with these new systems. There is no need for an upgrade to 8k right now. no one is playing on 8k. Slightly less blur during big movement with more FPS isn't a reason anyone buys a new PC, they upgrade parts (and sell the old parts) a PS4 pro sells for 100-200 right now. That means an upgrade to a PS5 pro is a $500-600+ price for the upgrade while removing the disk drive. A PC is going to be like a 200-300 upgrade when you upgrade your GPU to a substantially better GPU.
I was prepared to drop 599. I’m not spending a dime over. I guess will be waiting for the price drop
ps5 pro was actually what ps5 should be from start at 499
pro not needed
Subscribed mate . Nice job. I have huge doubts over pssr , seems like the differences will be not as great as they are making them out to be plus 8k gaming seriously?? Don't you need a 8k display for that ? Btw it's 800 euros in my country which is ridiculous. I'm keeping my ps5 , plonking a 1tb m 2 into it and buying a rtx 4070ti for my pc and it will cost less than a PS5 pro, the only thing that might tempt me is if it significantly boosts vr . If not .. pass .sorry sony i work hard for my bucks
Thank you for the kind words! Also I think many will do what you’re doing, especially if in person the console doesn’t stack up to expectations. I’m being a hopeful optimist that games will feel even better on it, but let’s see.
@@GaminGadgets I play mostly vr and with the release of the psvr2 adaptor I have a choice of headsets to use , be it standalone vr , psvr or pcvr.As I said before I would be slightly tempted if the ps5 pro would mean no reprojection for psvr but apart from that .. well . I doubt it
Answer: Standard PS5, because every PS5 is also a PS4 Pro
According to my research, PS4 Pro got a 2,1 GHz CPU, not 2,3 GHz.
But the most interesting is the GPU performance boost!
PS4 Pro: 128% more GFLOPS/TFLOPS
PS5 Pro: "up to 45% faster graphics"
So PS4 Pro more than doubled the performance. PS5 Pro cannot even reach 50% more...
Launch prices? I'm not 100% sure but my research...
PS4 349 dollar (500 GB)
PS4 Slim 500 GB 299 dollar
PS4 Pro 1 TB 399 dollar
So PS4 Pro was 50 dollar more expensive. And added 4K, Toslink out, faster wifi, one extra USB port...
PS5 Digital (2020) costed 400 dollar? PS5 Pro 2024 (Digital) is 300 dollar more expensive. Not a 50 dollar bump. It's a 300 dollar bump! I know, SSD is more expensive than HDD per gigabyte but it's four years later and 2 TB should not cost that much in 2024-2026?
I think it's a wrong thing to call it "Pro". They should brand it "PS5 Deluxe Edition" instead. It's a good performance boost but the marketing and the price is bad... it's not a good enough value!
It's also interesting how Sony has find the release window around the 2nd week in November for their consoles. Of course it's about doing a as good Q4 as possible.
I hope Sony can add a PS5 Pro with Bluray included for 50 dollar more. And sell it for 550 and 600 dollar or 600 and 650. Plus include the new Astro Bot game! This will increase the value a lot and probably sell crazy many more units!
Im gonna share ur Channel i Hope u get a bunch off subs
Thank you so much! That means a lot.
yo nice vid bro W editing as well
Thank you!
Yet, the system doesn’t come with a disc drive or a stand. It also doesn’t have backwards compatibility or even the ability to play CDs. I still use my PS3 as a music player. It would take practically no work to give the PS five the ability to play CDs. Yeah we’re gonna spend all this time and effort just to give us better graphics in charge of 700 bucks. Most people don’t care about extra leaves on the trees. I want to use my game system as an entire entertainment system. Games, movies, music.All with physical media.
Have we really reached a plateau of how much a game can look and run on any systems, or has the ps5 pro failed to push the technology further unlike PC.
I’m going to skip 9th generation completely.
talk abt locking in. congrats
Thank you 🙏🏼
The thing is that there hasn't been much backlash for price increases. So they didn't think it was a big deal. You see ifnyou give them an inch. They Will take a mile.