Honestly. The more Sony and Xbox go this way, where things have to look as best as possible. The more I agree with Nintendo that fun is more important than realistic
Yep. Cause the thing that gets lost when they try and go super realistic is the art direction and art style. We don't need all games to all look the same.
The switch performance barely competes with the ps5 and series x, and the switch has sold over 100 million units, compared to 60 million for the ps5 and 28 million for the series x
Good point. I’d be tempted if it had a disk drive built in for that price. But as it “stands” (terrible pun intended), I can’t justify $800 plus tax for this kind of upgrade.
You'll get a much better gaming console with Meta Quest 3 plus with exclusive games like Batman Arkham Shadows and other games while you get almost nothing exclusives coming if you buy Ps5 Pro for a slight upgrade that even a $500 pc built can be as powerful
@ No one wants a $500 PC, regardless of whether you’re right or wrong. If you want to get into VR, but a stand alone set. If you have a powerful PC, get a headset that takes advantage of that. If you have a PS5, wait for that deep sale on PSVR 2 and jump in. PSVR2 as a headset is excellent. There are enough games to keep you busy for a long, long time.
That's the most painful. They released the new gen of consoles because xbox did but the technical side wasn't fully ready for a leap with pricing still under control (kinda 😅 at least below 1k)
The thing that pisses people off is the commercial for the new PS5 Pro is basically the same commercial they gave us for the base PS5. That little purple ball passing through showing the frame rates increase was identical to what they showed the PS5 could do in it's commercial back in 2020.
@@selfhelp9685even then, I built myself a PC for $800 and it outperforms the PS5 Pro easily. I'm doing 4k 144fps on most shooters at high resolutions, with DLSS of course but hey, same price and does slightly more AND I don't need a subscription to play my games online.
Dont forget you also need a tv with 120htz vrr, if its 55-65" & you're 10 feet away even with 20/20 vision the improved visual fidelity isn't tangible enough at that distance.
YES! Thank you! (Michael Scott) so when you do the math. PS5Pro $900 + 120hz TV $1000 + PS+ $300 = $2200 for a slightly better console?! Better buy a PC and have a base PS5
@Bluestar1079 nothing you watch or play uses that standard. It's very niche still and really won't be giving you a whole lot of use for a while. Again I've been in broadcasting for years, and really 4k is still only used in select situations, most of the stuff you see is 4k but some especially local broadcasting and anything not a movie is 1080i 59fps by default and is what broadcast servers are set to run.
@@NathanCundiff just being sarcastic. I'm right there with you. I'll never forget the time when we had to switch the feed of a football game from the 4K feed back to standard. So we could broadcast a tornado warning on the text crawl. Didn't turn off the game just switched the feed. People called in complaining. Talking about how much they paid for their 4K TVs. That tornado completely destroyed a local school btw
I bought it, along with the disc drive. I'm enjoying it, but would absolutely label it a "100% optional, premium, upgrade". I've tested FF7 Rebirth, Elden Ring, and Dragon's Dogma 2 so far, and they all perform so much better. It completely fixes the blurriness of FF7 Rebirth in performance mode, Elden Ring can even perform in Quality Mode with what seems to be 50-60FPS in most cases, and Performance Mode doesn't meaningfully drop below 60 in most cases, and DD2, while still hiccuping every now and again, is 100% more enjoyable than before. Is it worth it though? That's really up to the individual to decide; I think all of these games were fully "playable" on vanilla PS5, so my take would be the Pro is a premium upgrade that not everyone needs to care about. It's like how most people will be perfectly fine with a regular Macbook Pro (or Air really), and wouldn't give it a lick about the M3/M4 Pro or Max versions.
Xbox series x can run Elden ring at a consistent 60fps no issue and so can Microsoft flight simulator if u tried that on a ps5 you’d be a terrorist for nuking your own town with your ps5
@@bigchungus285 For the record, I don't go in for console war stuff, and have nothing against Xbox. But DigitalFoundry's analysis of Shadow of the Erdtree show that even the framerate mode of Series X is consistently in the 50's, and that's on frame rate mode, not quality mode. ua-cam.com/video/aGwLmiWPGO0/v-deo.html
Glad you explained that watching on a smaller screen, on a non oled, and probably compresssed footage, you won’t notice the difference. This is not a console for a person that has a cheap Walmart tv, or playing on a 30-40” gaming monitor. You can’t bottleneck the quality yourself, then act like they look the same lol so I’m glad you pointed that out to your audience. Although, it seems by the comments that they still don’t comprehend it 🤣
I bought one myself. See I bought it as a curiosity, Already own a Slim model. Compared the two side by side. If there wasn't a noticeable difference I'd just return it, no harm, no foul. Once I saw how much cleaner and sharper everything was on the pro. The slim got boxed up and was sold on FBMP to offset the cost a little bit.
Even with a tv with 120htz vrr, if its 55-65" & you're 10 feet away even with 20/20 vision the improved visual fidelity isn't tangible enough at that distance.
I just wanted to say, this might be one of your best videos in a long time. Not a shot at your old stuff, a compliment. It's right to the point, and funny. Exactly what I come to expect from your content. Keep it up 👍
Honestly none of this would be an issue if AAA teams just gave devs more time to optimise their games.... they made a whole console based on fixing poor in house practices
@@docicusalignjon at least you can get a disc drive. in Australia you can not. more were supposed to be released whe the was. now early 2025. i am tempted as i have a PS3. but for $1199.00 it should come with one seeing it is sold as a pro. i have a 4K t.v. don't think it is 120htz. i picked up the slim with drive on sale last week. i think that will be a nice jump up for me. seeing i only turned my ps3 on the other day for the first time in at least 5 years. if the ps5 is a nice upgrade i will play at least once a week.
My PC, 4060, 16GB of ram, 1TB SSD was £870 during black friday. Why tf would anyone spend $1000+ on a console with no games and only a handful of PS exclusive
The exciting thing will be seeing games that have had the Pro devkit available for years during development, instead of having Pro support tacked on near the end of it. Optimization for future games is absolutely part of what you're paying for.
@@HermesderWetterbote Not very many games are CPU bound, so it's not much of a problem. What makes you think that developers won't optimize future titles for the Pro? If they bothered to add it onto a bunch of older games already, they will certainly do it moving forward.
Yeah, as your Future Self insert said, the only thing I saw was the Pro was more washed out. It’s one of those things that you need the new product to see the increased quality of the new product - the old display tech can’t reflect the new better display performance.
The big issue with these Enhanced consoles is the requirement for Game Devs to patch in support. With PCs, when you upgrade your hardware, you simply get to crank up the sliders and enjoy the new hardware. So many games will end up not being patched which further limits the benefits of upgrading. FF7 Rebirth has ZERO excuse for not supporting FSR 2 on the base PS5. PS5 Pro wasn't required to achieve the better quality on Performance mode.
What I learned here. I don't own a PS5, but now I'm glad. The PS5 Pro is what the PS5 should've ALWAYS been. It's 1000dlls in reality. And you have to deal with changing "modes" for each game. I remember when all you had to do was just "play" it. It really just sounds tedious and overly expensive... I didn't know a lot of info I learned here, but now I'm glad I never bought it especially when I'm in an economic status that would need to save up for a year or 2 to buy the normal one. I just never did it because I don't even own a 4K TV so I felt like it would be a waste.
Oops lol I just wanted to stress it’s only worth getting if you have a tv like that. I didn’t mean for it to come across as bragging. It IS a nice tv tho haha
Just start believing now that your situation will turn around. And if your religious pray, otherwise just start believing it and say it out loud. Never give up hope
I just hope future games don't only optimize for the PS5 pro, poorly optimizing graphics to use PSSR as a crutch, returning the games back to how they are on PS5, with "pretty mode that's unplayable" or "low settings pc mode at 60fps". And then the base PS5 fares off even worse...
People really overlooked this, but unless you have an expensive OLED TV Display, the PS5 Pro is literally not worth the money at that moment. So it's recommended to buy an OLED display first before buying the Pro, or you are better off saving more to buy a PC setup that can give a better experience. The PSSR is absolutely useless on an LCD 1080p display
@ Well, there are tens of thousands of games on Steam, going all the way back to games from the 90’s. It has more games than any console ever. And honestly pretty much all new xbox exclusives and most ps exclusives are coming to pc anyway, with the added bonus that they usually look and run better too. Because it is so successful Sony is releasing its new games on PC faster and faster, but personally don’t even care about that. I have too many games to play to begin with. I can easily wait
16:11 for those wondering he failed to mention that the power and eject symbols are actually engraved near the buttons in case you can't remember which is which.
Here is the problem if the PS5 Pro sales are good... it will reinforce the industry standard on pricing, and before you know it... Sony and Microsoft will feel that it is appropriate to follow the Apple pricing model. The PS6 will end up being $800-$1000 for the base console with no disk drive... who wants this? Yes or No in reply... please.
Or…. Hear me out. Just buy a midrange pc because not only do actually enhanced versions of these already “pro” games when they come to pc (it’s happening faster and faster now as well) but you can play thousands of games that aren’t on console, no online subscriptions, use any controller and will not lock you out of your library in the “next gen” This console would have been an amazing €600 steal. My 4 year old rtx 2070 max q gaming laptop can still play Metro Exodus in 1440p 60fps with raytracing
@AdAstra78 only someone who doesn't have a PC or isnt technical would say that if im being honest. Pcs can be smaller than the base ps5 model, they are also far quieter. Can come in pretty much any shape or size, customised to your needs and can be set up to use apps like Playnite or Steam Big Picture so you have a console like experience on boot and never have to interact with windows.
@Trinket_Master I have a few friends who game on PCs. I'm not going to knock them, but they do seem to involve quite a lot of tinkering. As someone who hates computers, they're just not a realistic alternative to sitting back on the sofa, pressing a single button and you're away. I think that's true for many.
You know whats sad is im kind of ... mmm i dk a word for it, but for lack of one. Im a bit overwhelmed maybe underwhelmed with videos games. Honestly i think these big companies are just too much now. I just cant game as much i used to. I think this is why im going to consistantly stick with nintendo. Because it feels good to game with this yknow. If i want something as good as a ps5 ill eventually switch to a pc, but idk man i feel you when you said this was an underwhelming gen. I just cant with playstation anymore(or xbox) . Plus scalpers just took the fun out of ps5 originally when it launched.
Honestly stepping over to a PC made me fall in love with gaming again. There are so many more games available, particularly excellent indies. And when it comes to performance and graphics you can get way better on PC if that's a thing you denjoy.
My local game store is doing the pro for 789.99 with drive and stand but sold out in seconds I honestly think that people who paid 700 for the pro have ensured that the PS6 will be $1000 and won't have a disc or any way to add one this gen is the end of physical copy's and wont come with a controller or cables in total it will cost $1250 to buy.
These prices might be the new norm for systems. Remember when we got up in arm for games being $70 now. We don’t talk about it anymore. Might as well get use to it.
It is not about getting used to it but about affordability. If ps6 is 800eur/USD then it will be most likely a niche product. The whole concept of console was to be affordable and mass adopted.
To be fair, i think the main reason we don't talk about it anymore is due to the (current) few that actually do it Sony said they would, and they have Activision did and have Ubi have for a few but most games still haven't increased and continue to sit around the $60 / £60 mark gotta hope it stays that way
While people were going nuts getting the 30th Anniversary Edition PS5 Pro wanting the best graphics as well as nostalgia, I traded in my launch PS5 console for GameStop credit so I could afford the 30th Anniversary PS5 Digital Edition because I care more about nostalgia and having fun than I do about better graphics.
But the price isn’t insane for the parts in this system and what it delivers on the screen that’s the cost It’s not worth it to upgrade imo I did but for anyone else I say don’t upgrade But not cause of the price the price makes sense for what the thing is like wood said
Yeah, but if people don't buy the disc drive, we're facing an all digital gaming world. Paying $70-80 for a game? If you think we're being screwed now, you just wait...
I have an 8k 120hrtz NeoQled tv that costed me nearly 3k euro. I am their target market, I still can’t justify this unless it was a huge sale, my series x does me just fine along side my switch, ps4 and gaming laptop.
Rumors has it around 2028. So at least 3 years of better looking, better running games I think is worth it when you can sell your old PS5 to recoup some of the cost.
And?? That doesn't necessarily mean everyone is gonna upgrade to a ps6. There are people who are still on last Gen that are currently getting into current gen
during the Stellar Blade comparison i just couldnt stop thinking about how much better the OG PS5 looked. the AI upsaceling on the Pro looks so damn ugly.
Not worth the money - there is a reason that Scalpers are making a loss with trying to flip this Electronic. 1 way to make something that can't be considered a Console, is via removing the Disc Drive, Ya'know, the one thing that makes a Console a Console
To be fair.. If GTA 6 or something got PS5 Pro footage next to the reveal it would've sold out everywhere. I think people are just waiting until they see more.
@@mikeuk666 Yeah but still even if it was just 30 (which is likely with the CPU) but just way better res etc I think a lot of people would eat up. I would too tbh lol
"the one thing that makes a console a console" man acting like pc doesnt have disc drives. But its good to know xbox one s, ps4 slim, xbox series s, and the ps5 slim all arent consoles
Damn dude I wish I lived in an area with the tax rate that low. In my area's tax rate runs between 10% and 12% depending on which town or city you are in.
The only difference I've seen that has actually had a HUGE improvement are the third party studios, particularly FF7 Rebirth which really needed it. But there is 0 difference from their first party studios cause they already look good since they know about the PS5 capabilities inside and out.
i love watching you console reviews because i don’t know what any other the hardware is and you break it down really well that i completely understand and i appreciate it ❤
@@lifeisyours8250 No one is being ripped off. A comparable pc will cost you close to $1600. How is a PS5 Pro ripping you off? You get high frames and high resolution, PSSR which is a game changer, faster RAM, double the storage, and so forth. It's substantially more powerful that the base model.
And its influencer " I'm doing it for the channel guys " purchases like yours on top of ignorant purchases that gives Sony the green lights to make console gaming worse for everybody. Everyone should PLEASE BUILD A PC.
What you rather need to study is the definition of "scam", but that requires a higher IQ than going on the internet posting stupid comments, so I doubt you'll get far.
The conclusion is spot on, this is what we should have gotten from the beginning of the generation. You can’t stick 8K on a box and then expect people to forget about it when you realized you couldn’t fulfill it and you certainly can’t market a downgrade like “disc-free” as something good.
Of all the non-technical reviews I’ve seen, this has been the best one. I’ve been in the same boat; launch ps5 disk edition and wanting to know how significant the Pro is to upgrade.
The idi*ts which dont realize it takes time to optimize games for the Pro models... 🙄 It took a long while for PS4 Pro, but look where we are now: Every game is optimized for PS4 Pro... 👍
Its actually laughable that a $800 console cant read discs. And that aliexpress style unboxing experience for a $800 console also didnt help. Maybe just a tiny bit more effort next time, sony?
I love how Wood says "versitAlity" when the menu option clearly says "versatility"...and he even misspells it how he mispronounces it on the example screen. Versatility isn't a word. Versatility is. (Apologies if this is dyslexia or something, I just found the letter switch amusing when at first it was just a mispronounciation but then doubled down with the misspelling in the edit. 😅)
Imma be real, I bought one of these just for FF7 Rebirth. Beyond that, it’s about motion clarity and sharpness. I can’t stand regular TAA and how fuzzy it gets in motion. I play on a 42 inch LG C3 sitting monitor distance away, so the difference was very noticeable for me in a lot of games I’ve tried so far.
When PS6 appears, it will be the same s***. Some games with 30fps in 4K. Some games with 60fps in 1080p. Few games with 60fps or more in 4K and without HDR.
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Who wants to buy a slightly used PS5 PRO?
Go to surfshark.com/beatemups for 4 extra months of Surfshark at an unbeatable price!
OK, your hair looks good pulled back like that.
For how much?! 🤔
I don’t feel the slightest bit of fomo on this one ngl…
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Does it come with multiple good exclusive games? 😂
Honestly. The more Sony and Xbox go this way, where things have to look as best as possible. The more I agree with Nintendo that fun is more important than realistic
I get that opinion, I think it depends on the game but. In the end I think your right
Yep. Cause the thing that gets lost when they try and go super realistic is the art direction and art style.
We don't need all games to all look the same.
Can't play elden ring on switch
The switch performance barely competes with the ps5 and series x, and the switch has sold over 100 million units, compared to 60 million for the ps5 and 28 million for the series x
@writtenskate522plays probably because it made for kids. I'm an adult.
It was way to hard for me to get my ps5 to give it up now for that price in this economy. I think that sums it up for most people.
Good point. I’d be tempted if it had a disk drive built in for that price. But as it “stands” (terrible pun intended), I can’t justify $800 plus tax for this kind of upgrade.
You'll get a much better gaming console with Meta Quest 3 plus with exclusive games like Batman Arkham Shadows and other games while you get almost nothing exclusives coming if you buy Ps5 Pro for a slight upgrade that even a $500 pc built can be as powerful
@ No one wants a $500 PC, regardless of whether you’re right or wrong. If you want to get into VR, but a stand alone set. If you have a powerful PC, get a headset that takes advantage of that. If you have a PS5, wait for that deep sale on PSVR 2 and jump in. PSVR2 as a headset is excellent. There are enough games to keep you busy for a long, long time.
This is prolly why I won’t tbr
The original PS5 should a been able to do this from the start. Absolutely ridiculous they're doing a dlc on a damn console
That's the most painful. They released the new gen of consoles because xbox did but the technical side wasn't fully ready for a leap with pricing still under control (kinda 😅 at least below 1k)
The thing that pisses people off is the commercial for the new PS5 Pro is basically the same commercial they gave us for the base PS5. That little purple ball passing through showing the frame rates increase was identical to what they showed the PS5 could do in it's commercial back in 2020.
The switch should be able to play games without stuttering all the time. It is what it is.
Sounds like cope 😂
@@GoldChocobo77it's painful how? You didn't buy it
Man almost $1000 for a console now. Might as well save a little longer and buy a PC at that point
You could straight up build a PC for a thousand. Unless you just have to game in 4k you don't need more $ than that.
@@selfhelp9685even then, I built myself a PC for $800 and it outperforms the PS5 Pro easily. I'm doing 4k 144fps on most shooters at high resolutions, with DLSS of course but hey, same price and does slightly more AND I don't need a subscription to play my games online.
Console better than pc pc is so boring and neeky
Console>pc
@@selfhelp9685you could build a more powerful machine for 500. Maybe even less.
Dont forget you also need a tv with 120htz vrr, if its 55-65" & you're 10 feet away even with 20/20 vision the improved visual fidelity isn't tangible enough at that distance.
YES! Thank you! (Michael Scott) so when you do the math. PS5Pro $900 + 120hz TV $1000 + PS+ $300 = $2200 for a slightly better console?! Better buy a PC and have a base PS5
@@kinomansskyScott?
@@mikeuk666 The Office buddy
I’m sure he has that as well and if if you don’t, I’m sure he’ll buy it
@@kinomanssky do you not need a monitor for a pc???
For the views my guy. You did it for the views 😂
And the tax write off
I think he did it for his passion, which I love
Like most, if not all youtubers?
@naruto7554 bro stfu. The dude is a man child "oooh please stop sending me stuff😅..also heres my P.O BOX address"
Who would have thought, youtuber posts a video for people to watch
I'm a broadcaster in Television... 8k is a sales gimmick. That standard isn't realistic at all.
Most games couldn't even run 30fps on 8k res. Totally bs
Well that's definitely a lie. I'm about to order my 8K TV right now. Using my blazing fast 5G. I'm sure I'm getting my 20 Gbps.
@Bluestar1079 nothing you watch or play uses that standard. It's very niche still and really won't be giving you a whole lot of use for a while. Again I've been in broadcasting for years, and really 4k is still only used in select situations, most of the stuff you see is 4k but some especially local broadcasting and anything not a movie is 1080i 59fps by default and is what broadcast servers are set to run.
Didn't they stop making 8k tvs a couple of years ago? 😂
@@NathanCundiff just being sarcastic. I'm right there with you. I'll never forget the time when we had to switch the feed of a football game from the 4K feed back to standard. So we could broadcast a tornado warning on the text crawl. Didn't turn off the game just switched the feed. People called in complaining. Talking about how much they paid for their 4K TVs. That tornado completely destroyed a local school btw
I bought it, along with the disc drive. I'm enjoying it, but would absolutely label it a "100% optional, premium, upgrade". I've tested FF7 Rebirth, Elden Ring, and Dragon's Dogma 2 so far, and they all perform so much better. It completely fixes the blurriness of FF7 Rebirth in performance mode, Elden Ring can even perform in Quality Mode with what seems to be 50-60FPS in most cases, and Performance Mode doesn't meaningfully drop below 60 in most cases, and DD2, while still hiccuping every now and again, is 100% more enjoyable than before. Is it worth it though? That's really up to the individual to decide; I think all of these games were fully "playable" on vanilla PS5, so my take would be the Pro is a premium upgrade that not everyone needs to care about. It's like how most people will be perfectly fine with a regular Macbook Pro (or Air really), and wouldn't give it a lick about the M3/M4 Pro or Max versions.
God apple has a dumb naming scheme
I like your take on it. Not for everyone, but a nice upgrade for those who want it.
Honestly a good take 👍
Xbox series x can run Elden ring at a consistent 60fps no issue and so can Microsoft flight simulator if u tried that on a ps5 you’d be a terrorist for nuking your own town with your ps5
@@bigchungus285 For the record, I don't go in for console war stuff, and have nothing against Xbox. But DigitalFoundry's analysis of Shadow of the Erdtree show that even the framerate mode of Series X is consistently in the 50's, and that's on frame rate mode, not quality mode. ua-cam.com/video/aGwLmiWPGO0/v-deo.html
I remember my friend paid 800 to scalpers for the PS5 lol
Your friend handed me $800
Damn he dumb
Yup that's what I paid too (from scalpers)
I paid $700
I paid 500. I waited. I’m not stupid.
that final fantasy comparison was actually kinda crazy... $850 crazy though... 😬
lmao that video editing is priceless good , thanks for the laugh :)
So this is basically an "only if you have the money to throw around" type of upgrade? Fair enough, in this economy.
Glad you explained that watching on a smaller screen, on a non oled, and probably compresssed footage, you won’t notice the difference.
This is not a console for a person that has a cheap Walmart tv, or playing on a 30-40” gaming monitor. You can’t bottleneck the quality yourself, then act like they look the same lol so I’m glad you pointed that out to your audience. Although, it seems by the comments that they still don’t comprehend it 🤣
I bought one myself. See I bought it as a curiosity, Already own a Slim model. Compared the two side by side. If there wasn't a noticeable difference I'd just return it, no harm, no foul. Once I saw how much cleaner and sharper everything was on the pro. The slim got boxed up and was sold on FBMP to offset the cost a little bit.
Depends on tv & sitting distance
if anyone who has a ps5 just sells it for like $300 on FBMP you basically get a ps5 pro for $450 which isnt horrible lol
@@chasedavis36 depends if you already have a 120hz vrr tv too
@@mikeuk666don't need 120hz or VRR to notice 4k image quality and increase's in frame rate 🤷
Even with a tv with 120htz vrr, if its 55-65" & you're 10 feet away even with 20/20 vision the improved visual fidelity isn't tangible enough at that distance.
I just wanted to say, this might be one of your best videos in a long time. Not a shot at your old stuff, a compliment. It's right to the point, and funny. Exactly what I come to expect from your content. Keep it up 👍
This was the first time watching this guy and I was thinking "damn, this guy's pretty good", so I totally agree with you.
Love his personality he’s funny lol
Can't wait to pay less than half that price to put another 200 hours into BotW (but at 60fps with 2k graphics) when the "Switch 2" comes out.
Hope your comment ages well and not like milk 🥛 ❤
Honestly none of this would be an issue if AAA teams just gave devs more time to optimise their games.... they made a whole console based on fixing poor in house practices
PS5 pro is $1199.99 in Australia
In Canada, if somebody's not paying attention, it's free.
It's like 940€ in Europe with only the disc drive, that's almost 1000$
@@docicusalignjon at least you can get a disc drive. in Australia you can not. more were supposed to be released whe the was. now early 2025. i am tempted as i have a PS3. but for $1199.00 it should come with one seeing it is sold as a pro. i have a 4K t.v. don't think it is 120htz. i picked up the slim with drive on sale last week. i think that will be a nice jump up for me. seeing i only turned my ps3 on the other day for the first time in at least 5 years. if the ps5 is a nice upgrade i will play at least once a week.
My PC, 4060, 16GB of ram, 1TB SSD was £870 during black friday. Why tf would anyone spend $1000+ on a console with no games and only a handful of PS exclusive
Wowowowowowowow
Selling my home to buy a PS4 Pro was totally worth it. Anyone have some change so I can get a taquito from 7 eleven?
Get out of here you bum!
Jk
No sorry
Get a job
That's the funniest commercial I have ever seen in my life. Hilarious! Spawn Wave Shirtless!😂😂😂😂
lol, I hadn't noticed that until seeing this comment 😂3:40
I got my PlayStation 5 Pro and I love it
The exciting thing will be seeing games that have had the Pro devkit available for years during development, instead of having Pro support tacked on near the end of it. Optimization for future games is absolutely part of what you're paying for.
there will be nothing like that 😅 and in all games where the cpu is the limiting factor there's almost no improvement at all 😅
@@HermesderWetterbote Not very many games are CPU bound, so it's not much of a problem. What makes you think that developers won't optimize future titles for the Pro? If they bothered to add it onto a bunch of older games already, they will certainly do it moving forward.
Yeah, as your Future Self insert said, the only thing I saw was the Pro was more washed out. It’s one of those things that you need the new product to see the increased quality of the new product - the old display tech can’t reflect the new better display performance.
The big issue with these Enhanced consoles is the requirement for Game Devs to patch in support. With PCs, when you upgrade your hardware, you simply get to crank up the sliders and enjoy the new hardware. So many games will end up not being patched which further limits the benefits of upgrading.
FF7 Rebirth has ZERO excuse for not supporting FSR 2 on the base PS5. PS5 Pro wasn't required to achieve the better quality on Performance mode.
@19:56 what are you doing with your fingers on that controller my dude haha I have never seen someone play like that
What I learned here. I don't own a PS5, but now I'm glad. The PS5 Pro is what the PS5 should've ALWAYS been. It's 1000dlls in reality. And you have to deal with changing "modes" for each game. I remember when all you had to do was just "play" it. It really just sounds tedious and overly expensive... I didn't know a lot of info I learned here, but now I'm glad I never bought it especially when I'm in an economic status that would need to save up for a year or 2 to buy the normal one. I just never did it because I don't even own a 4K TV so I felt like it would be a waste.
For a fun drinking game take a shot every time Wood says “my big 120 Hz TV”
Oops lol I just wanted to stress it’s only worth getting if you have a tv like that. I didn’t mean for it to come across as bragging.
It IS a nice tv tho haha
@BeatEmUps is it 65"? Looks pretty big 🫠
@@GoldChocobo77 Looks like a 77", those seem to be the "it" size atm.
@snopro2375 OK cuz I'm hesitating, I don't have a tv and moving in soon. It's hard to tell which size to get
@@GoldChocobo7777 inch
I miss my consoles, I had to sell them cause my family is having financial problems, now im stuck playing on a very outdated pc
Emulators are your friend! You can emulate anything from SNES to Dreamcast to N64, look into it!
Just start believing now that your situation will turn around. And if your religious pray, otherwise just start believing it and say it out loud. Never give up hope
I feel you bro. I sold my PS5 a couple years ago to pay for my dog's final expenses. Now I miss both my dog and my PS5
That's so sad. Sorry to hear. @@SoloJona
No Mans Sky for PS5 recently got an update where the PS5 pro can do 8k 30 fps iirc, so technically the ps5 pro can do 8k
F124 and GT7 offer 8k support as well so it's not technically it is supported 🤷
My 8k tv was like 3k. If people are complaining about a $700 console, they probably don't have an 8k tv.........lmfao
@@jaredoldhouser3301 I own a 8k set and it wasn't much more expensive then a 4k set 🤷
@@froggydarrenthat's upscaled though... It's not natively rendering 8k. The standard ps5 could likely upscale to 8k.
@rhysjones8506 no it couldn't simply "upscale" to 8k 🤣
1:41 🤣That is exactly how most buyers will feel😂
Exactly how my dad felt when he came home earlier this week 😂 But he gave the older one to my brother
13:17 I see feet. Do we have to pay you money for that shot. 😂😂
I'd just rather upgrade my PC and get more longevity than get a new console just for a couple of years.
I just hope future games don't only optimize for the PS5 pro, poorly optimizing graphics to use PSSR as a crutch, returning the games back to how they are on PS5, with "pretty mode that's unplayable" or "low settings pc mode at 60fps". And then the base PS5 fares off even worse...
Love your videos wood!
Thank you for mentioning stellar blade
It’s my favorite game of the year 🍷🗿
People really overlooked this, but unless you have an expensive OLED TV Display, the PS5 Pro is literally not worth the money at that moment. So it's recommended to buy an OLED display first before buying the Pro, or you are better off saving more to buy a PC setup that can give a better experience. The PSSR is absolutely useless on an LCD 1080p display
Yeah I would save up for a PC at this price point. You get access to way more games, better performance and better looking games.
Can you explain the way more games thing. I can’t play Sony games day one with a pc so that’s why I have a ps5
@ Well, there are tens of thousands of games on Steam, going all the way back to games from the 90’s. It has more games than any console ever. And honestly pretty much all new xbox exclusives and most ps exclusives are coming to pc anyway, with the added bonus that they usually look and run better too. Because it is so successful Sony is releasing its new games on PC faster and faster, but personally don’t even care about that. I have too many games to play to begin with. I can easily wait
@@Nucleosynthese thanks :)
What about a really good Qled tv ?
Sooo if you want to truly enjoy the ps5 Pro, you only have to buy a PS5 Pro, an OLED 120hz tv and a Disc Drive, got it. 🤣
Its time to invest into a good gaming tower
16:11 for those wondering he failed to mention that the power and eject symbols are actually engraved near the buttons in case you can't remember which is which.
Yeah. But not much help in a dark gaming setup
@@tldr365 You could always turn on the lights.
But also, the bigger button is power, the smaller one is eject.
Putting the sponsor at the bottom is genius and as like a 4th wall break chefs kiss
Here is the problem if the PS5 Pro sales are good... it will reinforce the industry standard on pricing, and before you know it... Sony and Microsoft will feel that it is appropriate to follow the Apple pricing model. The PS6 will end up being $800-$1000 for the base console with no disk drive... who wants this? Yes or No in reply... please.
How dare youtube hide this from me for 50 seconds!
This is what a PS5 should have been in 2020 but they saved the extra +5 teraflops just to call it “Pro” in 2024 is crazyyy 💀🙏
Or…. Hear me out.
Just buy a midrange pc because not only do actually enhanced versions of these already “pro” games when they come to pc (it’s happening faster and faster now as well) but you can play thousands of games that aren’t on console, no online subscriptions, use any controller and will not lock you out of your library in the “next gen”
This console would have been an amazing €600 steal.
My 4 year old rtx 2070 max q gaming laptop can still play Metro Exodus in 1440p 60fps with raytracing
Yeah, that's all very well, but...most people simply don't want a clunky PC setup in their front room.
@AdAstra78 only someone who doesn't have a PC or isnt technical would say that if im being honest.
Pcs can be smaller than the base ps5 model, they are also far quieter.
Can come in pretty much any shape or size, customised to your needs and can be set up to use apps like Playnite or Steam Big Picture so you have a console like experience on boot and never have to interact with windows.
@Trinket_Master I have a few friends who game on PCs. I'm not going to knock them, but they do seem to involve quite a lot of tinkering. As someone who hates computers, they're just not a realistic alternative to sitting back on the sofa, pressing a single button and you're away. I think that's true for many.
“I spent $900 on the ps5 pro because surfshark offered to pay for it”
You know whats sad is im kind of ... mmm i dk a word for it, but for lack of one. Im a bit overwhelmed maybe underwhelmed with videos games. Honestly i think these big companies are just too much now. I just cant game as much i used to. I think this is why im going to consistantly stick with nintendo. Because it feels good to game with this yknow. If i want something as good as a ps5 ill eventually switch to a pc, but idk man i feel you when you said this was an underwhelming gen. I just cant with playstation anymore(or xbox) . Plus scalpers just took the fun out of ps5 originally when it launched.
Honestly stepping over to a PC made me fall in love with gaming again. There are so many more games available, particularly excellent indies. And when it comes to performance and graphics you can get way better on PC if that's a thing you denjoy.
@@NucleosyntheseI used to be just a console gamer but then I got an rog ally handheld pc it’s great!
My local game store is doing the pro for 789.99 with drive and stand but sold out in seconds I honestly think that people who paid 700 for the pro have ensured that the PS6 will be $1000 and won't have a disc or any way to add one this gen is the end of physical copy's and wont come with a controller or cables in total it will cost $1250 to buy.
These prices might be the new norm for systems. Remember when we got up in arm for games being $70 now. We don’t talk about it anymore. Might as well get use to it.
You get used to it, I will pass and save my money. Peace
It is not about getting used to it but about affordability. If ps6 is 800eur/USD then it will be most likely a niche product. The whole concept of console was to be affordable and mass adopted.
To be fair, i think the main reason we don't talk about it anymore is due to the (current) few that actually do it
Sony said they would, and they have
Activision did and have
Ubi have for a few
but most games still haven't increased and continue to sit around the $60 / £60 mark
gotta hope it stays that way
@@SambaJones97Good games cost around that. Observe the trash games to be around 80-100. Curious.
@@planetnef2356exactly I’m rarely going to buy full pricesd games now there are always great sales on steam
While people were going nuts getting the 30th Anniversary Edition PS5 Pro wanting the best graphics as well as nostalgia, I traded in my launch PS5 console for GameStop credit so I could afford the 30th Anniversary PS5 Digital Edition because I care more about nostalgia and having fun than I do about better graphics.
No build disc drive is a f@cking joke this is pathetic I hope people don’t waste money on this to send a mesg to Sony the price is insane
But the price isn’t insane for the parts in this system and what it delivers on the screen that’s the cost
It’s not worth it to upgrade imo I did but for anyone else I say don’t upgrade
But not cause of the price the price makes sense for what the thing is like wood said
Yeah to me it’s really lazy from Sony making it all digital
Yeah, but if people don't buy the disc drive, we're facing an all digital gaming world. Paying $70-80 for a game? If you think we're being screwed now, you just wait...
I have an 8k 120hrtz NeoQled tv that costed me nearly 3k euro.
I am their target market, I still can’t justify this unless it was a huge sale, my series x does me just fine along side my switch, ps4 and gaming laptop.
This is a scam when you realise the PS6 could be out in 2026 or 2027.
Rumors has it around 2028. So at least 3 years of better looking, better running games I think is worth it when you can sell your old PS5 to recoup some of the cost.
Tbh you could also just buy the Pro and keep it until the PS6 Pro. PS4 Pro owners haven’t had any reason to upgrade yet.
And??
That doesn't necessarily mean everyone is gonna upgrade to a ps6.
There are people who are still on last Gen that are currently getting into current gen
Wrong i heard a Sony guy saying 2029 or 2030 for ps6
@@NDSIserSo why the hate for Ps5 Pro when the base Ps5 was not worth it?
during the Stellar Blade comparison i just couldnt stop thinking about how much better the OG PS5 looked. the AI upsaceling on the Pro looks so damn ugly.
BS, it looks much better on the pro even compared to the native 4k quality mode, I recommend playing it on pro mode because it uses PSSR.
@MiguelRodriguez-lp9et did you even watch the video??
This isnt nintendo content🤯🤯🤯🤯
Still watchin
I loved the editing in this video! Was an entertaining watch :)
Not worth the money - there is a reason that Scalpers are making a loss with trying to flip this Electronic.
1 way to make something that can't be considered a Console, is via removing the Disc Drive, Ya'know, the one thing that makes a Console a Console
To be fair.. If GTA 6 or something got PS5 Pro footage next to the reveal it would've sold out everywhere.
I think people are just waiting until they see more.
@@misterhoobomaster folks are thinking it will be 30-40fps
@@mikeuk666 Yeah but still even if it was just 30 (which is likely with the CPU) but just way better res etc I think a lot of people would eat up.
I would too tbh lol
"the one thing that makes a console a console" man acting like pc doesnt have disc drives. But its good to know xbox one s, ps4 slim, xbox series s, and the ps5 slim all arent consoles
@@misterhoobomaster30fps in 2025 would be a disaster
Damn dude I wish I lived in an area with the tax rate that low. In my area's tax rate runs between 10% and 12% depending on which town or city you are in.
There is no difference between the ps5 pro and the ps5
There is, but not anywhere that justifies the purchase.
I mean big difference
@@Mohamad-s8c6pstart with that next time
The biggest difference is $200.00
The only difference I've seen that has actually had a HUGE improvement are the third party studios, particularly FF7 Rebirth which really needed it. But there is 0 difference from their first party studios cause they already look good since they know about the PS5 capabilities inside and out.
I’m terrible with money but even I can see this is past the point of reason.
You spent rent money on a PlayStation 5 pro, that's no different from the PlayStation 5 🤔.
Can we stop saying no difference cause there is you need to say no major difference ok
Some people actually have money. Cry about it
1000 bucks is like 10 bucks for a rich UA-camr why would he not get a ps5 pro
i love watching you console reviews because i don’t know what any other the hardware is and you break it down really well that i completely understand and i appreciate it ❤
I spent $470 for a PlayStation five Pro off eBay brand new cause he scammers can’t sell them
That's obviously a lie as if there stuck with stock after a week you would just send it back and refund it 🤦
In my country it cost $1000 with disc drive excluding stand. Ps5 slim disc drive version cost $516.
It’s not about how small it is, it’s about how you use it. Ps5 pro ain’t worth it tbh
Cope harder
“Speed lines” 😭😭
They professionally swindled you out of your money 🤣💨
Every purchase of the PS5 pro sends a message to Sony that we accept less and less is better.
Or it shows Sony we want higher frames with higher resolution, and we don't want to have to compromise one for the other.
@bdgrey Yes and being ripped off to get it which is my whole point.
@@lifeisyours8250 No one is being ripped off. A comparable pc will cost you close to $1600. How is a PS5 Pro ripping you off?
You get high frames and high resolution, PSSR which is a game changer, faster RAM, double the storage, and so forth. It's substantially more powerful that the base model.
@@bdgreysoooo go and buy high performance PC 😂
@@TheDancap88 Some people prefer the convenience of consoles and that's ok.
Man, if only i had a "BIG 120 HZ TV"
And its influencer " I'm doing it for the channel guys " purchases like yours on top of ignorant purchases that gives Sony the green lights to make console gaming worse for everybody.
Everyone should PLEASE BUILD A PC.
I haven't watched one of your videos since after the Nintendo Switch OLED released. I aint an OG fan but it's nice to be back
The ps5 pro is a masterclass of a scam by sony. It needs to be studied!
What you rather need to study is the definition of "scam", but that requires a higher IQ than going on the internet posting stupid comments, so I doubt you'll get far.
@@The_Ostrich
😂😂
@@mikeuk66still attention seeking pretending to be me 🤡
@mikeuk66 still pretending to be me MichaelM28 😂
Cope harder
I was able to trade in all my physical PlayStation and physical Nintendo switch games and the OLED and I still had to pay $120 for the PS5 Pro
The conclusion is spot on, this is what we should have gotten from the beginning of the generation. You can’t stick 8K on a box and then expect people to forget about it when you realized you couldn’t fulfill it and you certainly can’t market a downgrade like “disc-free” as something good.
Bro said "like what were they smoking 🚬 the first time" that 8K is gone 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, no.
Of all the non-technical reviews I’ve seen, this has been the best one. I’ve been in the same boat; launch ps5 disk edition and wanting to know how significant the Pro is to upgrade.
I already paid $800 for my original PS5. Sony won't get another cent from me for a console until the PS6
You paid $800 for a ps5 Woww you got ripped off
@therunawaykid6523 I had to buy it as a bundle but still yeah
...thats the reason why I sent it back to Sony. Still keep playing on Series X
Such a lie bro, shut up lmfaoooooooooooooo 💀💀😭😭💀💀💀💀💀💀
yeah, I love my PS5, bought one for my friends too... and even I don't see a reason to buy this thing.
Ahh he was taking his sweet sweet time finishing playing stellar blade
If you know you know💀
Building up those wrist muscles
Meh i stick to normal ps5 . Ps5 pro is a huge waste of money
Wood: "Ok the review is done, time to return this overpriced scam and stick to my PS5"
Wouldn’t be surprised
ray tracing is not only reflections but all the lightning in the scene that's been rendered, just a heads up, great video Wood😄👍
Not my phone dying whenever the game pop up on the screen. 😂
You did it, because you're a content creator, and a new console means new content.
The idi*ts which dont realize it takes time to optimize games for the Pro models... 🙄 It took a long while for PS4 Pro, but look where we are now: Every game is optimized for PS4 Pro... 👍
those "that's what she said" clips are genius. Do that more often.
Its actually laughable that a $800 console cant read discs. And that aliexpress style unboxing experience for a $800 console also didnt help. Maybe just a tiny bit more effort next time, sony?
3:11 THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!
Which would you rather:
- Varied food to last you multiple months
- The PS5 Pro without a disc drive
I'm tryin to get off this food stuff man, it just turns into waste. Once I'm off the food the budget situation will be set for more games.
- Get a job, so you don't have to worry about such nonsense
PERformance, not pre, PER-for-manse
"hmmm actually....."
I love how Wood says "versitAlity" when the menu option clearly says "versatility"...and he even misspells it how he mispronounces it on the example screen.
Versatility isn't a word. Versatility is. (Apologies if this is dyslexia or something, I just found the letter switch amusing when at first it was just a mispronounciation but then doubled down with the misspelling in the edit. 😅)
I literally laughed out loud at 1:42 😂
Here in Germany the disk drive is out of stock pretty much all the time. Resellers selling those for around 250-330 € ! It’s hilarious
Imma be real, I bought one of these just for FF7 Rebirth. Beyond that, it’s about motion clarity and sharpness. I can’t stand regular TAA and how fuzzy it gets in motion. I play on a 42 inch LG C3 sitting monitor distance away, so the difference was very noticeable for me in a lot of games I’ve tried so far.
2:38 No its Playstation 5 PROfit. 💰💰💰
Take a shot every time Wood says "Preformance".
Spawn Wave Shirtless is a recommended search now
When PS6 appears, it will be the same s***.
Some games with 30fps in 4K.
Some games with 60fps in 1080p.
Few games with 60fps or more in 4K and without HDR.
3:10 LMAO. I think my head is in the gutter... Tiny wood.. lol...