BEST CHEAP LED Lights for Growing Microgreens!?! Barrina T5's vs T8's

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  • @sappir26
    @sappir26 3 роки тому +9

    If you could add some sort of reflecting material above your lights, you wouldn't loose some of that lighting that is escaping from the top shelf on which it is mounted, resulting in a more concentrated light hitting the plants.

  • @apple369
    @apple369 4 роки тому +12

    Thank you! Your videos are my favourite for microgreen growing info. Straight and to the point with lots of practical advice.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for the support!! We really appreciate it!

  • @Shane7492
    @Shane7492 Рік тому +6

    You're not thinking about how significant the yield difference relative to the price of the lights is. The T8 is hands down the best choice, and here's why based on your numbers. This will be based on 1 rack that has 15 lights and 20 trays, and let's assume a 1 week grow cycle under the lights and $2/oz. price of your microgreens.
    T8:
    $199.65 one time cost for the lights.
    $8.40 per week of use.
    T5:
    $100.05 one time cost for the lights.
    $4.20 per week of use.
    That is a $99.60 difference in the cost of the lights, and a $4.20 difference per week of use. Now let's look at how much more you'll make in revenue based on the yield difference, let alone the better quality product, which is a win-win.
    Based on your experiment, the T8 produced 51 grams more per tray. Assuming a $2/oz. price point, that comes out to $3.60 per tray more in revenue. For 20 trays, that's $72 more per week. Since the upfront cost of the lights is a one time only, you would break even after only a week and a half. After that, you'd be making $67.80 more per week per rack despite a slightly higher electricity cost for the T8s. Even if your price point was only $1/oz., you'd still break even after only 3 weeks.
    Based on how quickly you'd break even, better look, and better taste, it's a no brainer that you should choose the T8 when factoring in the extra revenue from the increased yield. And by the way, that comes out to 24% more yield. That is very significant.

    • @Crimson_DC143C
      @Crimson_DC143C 6 місяців тому +3

      ^ Underrated comment. The Barrina lights honestly can't be beat for $/performance. Even off of bulk websites like alibaba for the exact same fixtures the pricing only ends up being ~15% cheaper. Their listed PPFD numbers are off, real world you get around 75-80% from what I've seen personally testing mine, but the amount of high quality usable light they produce is still excellent per fixture. When comparing with mainstay brands like Spider Farmer, Sunblaster, etc, the PPFD per $ is better in the Barrina by a factor of 3-7x. It's wild.
      EDIT: Apologies for the necro notification lol

    • @yagojaffarzacharia786
      @yagojaffarzacharia786 3 місяці тому

      Should I really put 3 t8's ?on one level

    • @Alien2799
      @Alien2799 Місяць тому

      Would it be Ok to put 2 T8s per shelf? Thank you

  • @owend4002
    @owend4002 4 роки тому +13

    Nice work on the comparison of lights! I have both the T5 and the more powerful 300W, Relassy Full Spectrum Grow Light on my setup. I decided to rotate my trays in between the two lights during the grow and have had good uniform growth. It may be one way to reduce cost if you can't afford the upfront on the more expensive lights - buy one set for a shelf and rotate daily or every other day.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      😊 Isn't it great that we microgreen growers can make things work?! 😀 Owen D Again...we really benefit from your support and nice compliments!!! Have you visited our newest website...
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  • @garrettmineo
    @garrettmineo 4 роки тому +9

    Great work. I like the way y’all always try to isolate variables to see the effect of each, on all of your videos. The video are also well done typically with loads of info. SCIENCE!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the support! It really mean a lot to us!

  • @cinci520
    @cinci520 4 роки тому +26

    Nice video guys! I am constantly doing these light tests on my Microgreens. I also found that my 5000k Barrina T5’s yield higher that my 6500k t5’s. I also noticed your t8’s have clear covers and your t5’s frosted covers. I removed all the frosted covers from the t5’s and increased their Par level by quite a bit, in turn increasing yield.

    • @jas_n1580
      @jas_n1580 4 роки тому +1

      Very interesting to see that the 5000k had a higher yield than the 6500k, I wonder why that is. But thanks for reporting that, I think I might grab 5000k instead of the 6500k

    • @jaredsenifield7723
      @jaredsenifield7723 3 роки тому

      @@jas_n1580 I’ve heard they do better when they need to struggle a little bit while growing

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for the support cinci520!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 We love people testing their yields! Keep Be-Leafing!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      jas_n 😀We are so excited to announce that both our Microgreens Master Book and our first Microgreens Cookbook will be available very soon!
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    • @chandanaperera7182
      @chandanaperera7182 11 місяців тому

      24 hrs of continuous light is a must?

  • @dan98762001
    @dan98762001 4 роки тому +9

    Can't wait for a test with the ''grow light'' options from Barrina (blurple vs cool white vs warm yellow). Would their ''grow lights'' be better than the shop light you are testing ?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂Thank you so much for the support Danny Lecours!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 Maybe...when we get caught up ill check the specs and run some math on it!!

    • @johnusg
      @johnusg Рік тому

      Yes they would. These are not full spectrum grow lights which are optimal for growing indoors.

  • @jerrycallison6125
    @jerrycallison6125 3 роки тому +7

    Good presentation and comparison. Question: re difference in light produced and cost. Since the T5 puts out a bit less light than the T8, what do you think would be the result if one was to use four T5s in lieu of three. It would be less than the cost/expense of the T8, but would give a more comparable light output.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      That could be, but very close! 😊 Jerry Callison 😀We are so excited to announce that both our Microgreens Master Book and our first Microgreens Cookbook will be available very soon!
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  • @leninlopez5733
    @leninlopez5733 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for this review, really helped me in my purchase and research. Much love!

  • @frankwoodworth99
    @frankwoodworth99 3 роки тому +3

    I would like to know if both the T5 and T8. Are available in different Kelvin ranges. Like 2700k -up to 6500k. I'm also interested in UV. Do either provide any ? I understand par well. I'm also interested in Lumens. In my opinion people get to caught up in JUST wattage and par and forget to figure in the LUMENS Hey I loved everything about what you did here 👍 very informative. How you used two separate trays used the same nutrients ......made it even environmentally and nutritionally and took the time to explain that. So we at home had NO questions. That was very cool 👍 I was a little confused at the end when you weighed the T5. Two trays total was 100g less almost exactly than the two tray total of the T8. The T8 did use 2 x the energy than the T5. One would have to do some averaging or some sort of fancy math to figure in that 100gm.into the energy usage And you know the T8 were running 6500k. Compared to the T5 running only 5000k. That does make a difference in vegetation production in most plants. Just like in a rainbow we like the blue to be bright. Plants love it too. 5000k is a little closer to the red spectrum from my liking on that specific plant variety. It would be interesting to see what the T5 would do at 6500k side by side with the T8. Running 6500k. Then we would be in for a show . I bet the yield and quality would go up on the T5 to be at least what the T8 was . Then a guy would have to average that too to get some real numbers 👍 hey I loved the show

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the Feedback Frank Woodworth! We appreciate your support! Frank Woodworth 😉Hello again from "On The Grow"...We apologize for not being timely on your last request or comment!!! We've been blessed to have so many welcoming responses as well as questions from the "MicroGreen Community".
      😄Fear not for the future...we have two new grow team members here to assist with all aspects of your grow needs and questions. Please feel free to jump back in to sharing and looking to us for assistance!! Frank Woodworth 😀We are so excited to announce that both our Microgreens Master Book and our first Microgreens Cookbook will be available very soon!
      😃Please visit our new website at 0nthegrow.net for info and early sign up!!!

  • @victoriadgoogle
    @victoriadgoogle Рік тому +1

    This is awesome, thank you! What would be reccomend for flower/vegetable/dahlia seedling growth?

  • @verbon5434
    @verbon5434 4 роки тому +4

    Great video. Thank you for doing experiments like this. The information is very helpful.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the support, it means a lot to us Jerome!! We do our best to help :)

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thankyou for watching! We hope to help everyone that needs any help figuring this out! 😀 jerome stidham Again...we really benefit from your support and nice compliments!!! Have you visited our newest website...
      www.onthegrow.net ...we are so proud of the help it provides!!!

  • @Noraf83
    @Noraf83 4 роки тому +3

    In your Barrina T5 vs Active Grow light test you mentioned that the more powerful lights warranted earlier harvesting for optimal results. Do you get the impression that these Barrina T8s would reduce the average number of days to harvest compared to the T5s? Beyond the implications of reducing the total cost of the grow, I am wondering if having a couple of shelves equipped with higher output lights could function as an accelerator to catch a few trays up so that they could be harvested along with earlier seeded trays to complete delivery schedules in the case of failures or order adjustments after seeding.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for the support Faron Peckham!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 I like your scientific eye...and yes we can control rate of grow by playing rotation tricks between lighted shelves!!

  • @JuneEBug-gy6nt
    @JuneEBug-gy6nt 3 роки тому +18

    Dude, the “on-on-on” thing at 2:53 was freaking hilarious and caught me off guard

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      Aw, you noticed the messup! And we thought we cleverly covered it up! We do love our bloopers, though! 😊 😀 June E. Bug Again...we really benefit from your support and nice compliments!!! Have you visited our newest website...
      www.onthegrow.net ...we are so proud of the help it provides!!!

    • @dammit7045
      @dammit7045 3 роки тому

      I started to dace to that little jam out lol . Nice cover up

    • @thiagoleobons390
      @thiagoleobons390 5 місяців тому

      it did lead to a massive drop in user retention though as you can see when you hover over the video

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome test very relevant to growers of any kind

  • @amfickes
    @amfickes 2 роки тому +4

    Can you do a test using double the number of T5 bulbs and the same number of T8 bulbs? So we can get comparison of which is better when using the same amount electricity?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  2 роки тому

      Have you checked out this video yet? ua-cam.com/video/LpxeOcyOCGI/v-deo.html

  • @bonniehoke-scedrov4906
    @bonniehoke-scedrov4906 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Thanks! Your video was so informative. Thank you so much!

  • @sharriceowens913
    @sharriceowens913 3 роки тому +2

    They sure went up on the price since last year .up ten dollars for both

  • @itsmegiorgio
    @itsmegiorgio 4 роки тому +11

    Any other brand you'd recommend for T5s? Barrina is hardly available in the old continent

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for the support Giorgio Terreni!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 What manufacturers are you not able to reach? I thought Amazon ships about anywhere!!!
      Visit www.onthegrow.net to see all our lights at the grow.

    • @itsmegiorgio
      @itsmegiorgio 3 роки тому +1

      @@OnTheGrow Barrina especially seems to not sell on European Amazon.
      True one could order from the US but customs duties are wild :D

    • @fledgling5616
      @fledgling5616 3 роки тому +1

      What’s “the old continent” mean?

    • @itsmegiorgio
      @itsmegiorgio 3 роки тому +2

      @@fledgling5616 Europe.
      Europe is widely referred to as "the old continent". Just as much as the Americas are "the new continent"

    • @fledgling5616
      @fledgling5616 3 роки тому +1

      @@itsmegiorgio thx

  • @HisValor
    @HisValor 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice👍🏼💡! Question: can I use natural light (East and West facing windows) in my apartment☀️, then use those lights at night💡?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  2 місяці тому +1

      Personally if I was you, I would test it out. I don't see why it wouldn't work!

    • @HisValor
      @HisValor 2 місяці тому

      @@OnTheGrow thank you

  • @dsd-downshiftdave8056
    @dsd-downshiftdave8056 2 роки тому +1

    What's you growing medium of choice?
    Soil, coconut coir, ect, Do you use fans for air ration

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  2 роки тому

      Our grow mediums of choice are by far Coco coir & the Reusable Microgreen Grow Medium that we sell on our website www.onthegrow.net/products . Sometimes we'll still use soil, however, not that often. Yes we use fans on every shelf / rack!

  • @FAISALKHAN-ts5lf
    @FAISALKHAN-ts5lf 4 роки тому +3

    Thanku for giving full details thanku
    We love you
    You guys are amazing ❣️❤️❤️

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      FAISAL KHAN Have you signed up for our Master Class yet? Please get ready to take advantage of all the information we've assembled for you!!! We recently grew fenugreek to test recipes! That's a start!

  • @Noraf83
    @Noraf83 4 роки тому +2

    Great video. Do you think that normalizing for PAR output would lead to more similar results? Running 6xT5s should have nearly the same PAR, cost per day, and every other metric as 3xT8s.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому +2

      Absolutely! We've tested out 6 of the Barrina T5's on a single shelf and it provided some really solid growth!

  • @stonkshell8043
    @stonkshell8043 4 роки тому +8

    How about distance?? The light from the seeds..

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      We keep our lights at a distance of 8inches from the top of the tray, while most growers stick to 10 inches from the top of the tray. YESAYA BAREP DOAN CAHIYA 😀We are so excited to announce that both our Microgreens Master Book and our first Microgreens Cookbook will be available very soon!
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  • @justryan2070
    @justryan2070 3 роки тому +1

    Do you have a video on setting up the hanging lights? And do you think this would work for basil?

  • @Runboy7426
    @Runboy7426 4 роки тому +2

    Would love to see Hortilux PowerVeg T5 against some of these led options. Particularly on the taste test. Nice work!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂Thank you so much for the Feedback Runboy7426! We appreciate your support!

  • @austin2842
    @austin2842 2 роки тому +3

    I had no idea it cost so much to run these lights. Thought it was just a couple cents a day!

  • @kimipbnikhuma8000
    @kimipbnikhuma8000 11 днів тому

    Haaaa on on on and the muching 😂😂😂 i enjoy that part so much..

  • @littlebeebs1
    @littlebeebs1 3 роки тому +2

    Great videos! You’re awesome for doing these experiments for us so we don’t have to . Thank you 😊

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      😀 Jennifer Liebo Again...we really benefit from your support and nice compliments!!! Have you visited our newest website...
      www.onthegrow.net ...we are so proud of the help it provides!!! We really do love what we do and want to make Be-Leafers out of everyone!

    • @littlebeebs1
      @littlebeebs1 3 роки тому

      @@OnTheGrow , Well I’m happy that I can benefit you in some way 🤗. I’ll most definitely check out your site . Can’t wait to see all the good info you have . Thank you for telling me about it . I’m definitely a be leafer 🥰. I love plants so much! They’re a miracle! Big hugs 🤗

  • @Alien2799
    @Alien2799 Рік тому

    Great video! Thank you so much.
    When I watch some other microgreens growing videos I see that the light is pinkish (which I do not like). Why were theirs pink and is there any advantage to that? I think that they might have been using T8?
    I am looking forward to your response.

  • @xtrabig7o2
    @xtrabig7o2 4 роки тому +15

    The health department in Las Vegas requires lights that are over any kind of food to have a shatter proof covering. Taking off the cover and exposing the LEDs for more par may not be the best idea if aiming to do this for profit. Just my opinion.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому +6

      Yeah, I've heard of other states requiring the shatterproof covering as well. I think most of our followers that do it are home-growers and not selling. Great point to bring up, thanks for sharing!

    • @sowmicros729
      @sowmicros729 2 роки тому

      Quite interesting and was probably implemented when florescent was the only options glass shattering etc. But leave mine on the LEDs because these new models seem to be more difficult than older models to take off as they are connected to the underside of the led. They used to just pop off. Also exposed wire and water/hydroponics do not mix may be fine but in my opinion double the watts double the lumens. Looks totally worth it to just go ahead save up for the 5000k t8. Spend a little extra on the lights and energy use in turn producing a higher quality product with higher yield safely not having to worry about bootlegging equipment. Quite nice though to provide enough energy with such a low cost and footprint. Maybe will put one of these on each shelf with the lower wattage on edges. Problem solved. On the grow y'all really are so helpful in this space and can't wait for more videos. Setting up a small dwc lettuce grow have been wanting to for a while but seeing you guys pull that tote outta storage and back to use has inspired me. Now just need a hole-saw

    • @theloudprofessional
      @theloudprofessional 2 роки тому

      Calm down nerd

  • @bchansens
    @bchansens 4 роки тому +4

    Help please... What is the best distance for T8 from the soil level?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      We keep our lights at a distance of 8inches from the top of the tray, while most growers stick to 10 inches from the top of the tray. bchansens 😉Hello again from "On The Grow"...We apologize for not being timely on your last request or comment!!! We've been blessed to have so many welcoming responses as well as questions from the "MicroGreen Community".
      😄Fear not for the future...we have two new grow team members here to assist with all aspects of your grow needs and questions. Please feel free to jump back in to sharing and looking to us for assistance!!

  • @dv8234
    @dv8234 Рік тому

    Good Day, and thank you for this very informative video. I am currently thinking seriously on setting up a microgreens shelving rack in my apartment. I feel inclined to order the Barrina T8's as they are given a very good review by your video, over the T5's. However, I noticed you use three T5 lights per shelf; if I purchase the T8's, as they are a higher wattage, should I use also three lights per shelf or would two be good for very good growth? I will think on this, but your video gave a very good comparison. Also, I live in Northern Canada; I would like to try the Ocean Solution 2-0-3 for microgreens, but I am afraid it may freeze on the way to my home; I will have to look further into this, to see if I may still use it after freezing, as I would like to use it with coco coir (less messier than soil for an apartment). Thank you for the very informative video.

  • @Sypholux
    @Sypholux 3 роки тому +1

    After blackout are the microgreens typically put under light 24/7 until harvest? Thanks!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      We run our lights on a 17hours ON and 7 hours OFF schedule and have had great success with that over the past year and a half!

  • @elizabethgriss9762
    @elizabethgriss9762 4 роки тому +3

    This is probably a dumb question, but how much distance should my lights be from my trays?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому +3

      Not a dumb question at all! Most people do about 12inches from the top of the grow tray to the lights. We put ours a lot closer at 9inches. Maximizes the light and we are able to fit more trays on a single rack.

    • @elizabethgriss9762
      @elizabethgriss9762 4 роки тому +1

      @@OnTheGrow Thanks!!!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      We keep our lights at a distance of 8inches from the top of the tray, while most growers stick to 10 inches from the top of the tray.

  • @RickysFarmAndHatchery
    @RickysFarmAndHatchery Рік тому

    What will happen if you put the plants closer to the T5? Would you get the same result? Maybe the distance of the light is not traveling far down enough. I just think of the fish tank method well water blurts out some of the light from hitting the bottom of the tank. So just bring the lights closer down would you get the same result on the T5?

  • @robertsmith2199
    @robertsmith2199 Рік тому +1

    How come you never compared the Barrina white lights, between t8 shop light and t8 whit grow light?

  • @joeybrannon8626
    @joeybrannon8626 4 роки тому +1

    Another Great Video! Don't know if it helped me make up my mind but Awesome! Have you thought about trying the Masterblend nuit. I've seen a few other growers us it. It's not an organic but they seemed to have good growth. I feel like I have been binge watching your channel like everyone binge watched the Tiger King! Thanks for all the info. Great Website as well.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the support Joey Brannon!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄

  • @Similee
    @Similee 3 роки тому +1

    you got a subscribe from me after 3:00 haha. that was perfect. plus I'm learning so much. I'm taking notes. Thank you all.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching Similee!!! 😄 Glad you enjoyed it!
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  • @logiclab1
    @logiclab1 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you. Would wrapping the rack with a reflective blanket up the par?

    • @justinpowell7668
      @justinpowell7668 4 роки тому

      might hurt your air flow

    • @logiclab1
      @logiclab1 4 роки тому

      Justin Powell just cover the front and back. Fans can go on the sides.

    • @Noraf83
      @Noraf83 4 роки тому

      I agree that wrapping all 4 sides would be problematic for air flow. Me and my grow partner have recently put together a very small (48ft² or 4.5m²) grow room based on T5 lights, 2x Seville Classic shelves, and other basic gear referenced on this channel, and so far it's working really well. The one bit of flair not found in the On The Grow setup that I opted for was covering the walls with the 6 mil VivoSun Mylar that you can find on Amazon. I've seen other commercial growers post pictures using similar material in a microgreens business FB group I'm in, and it looked impressive. It makes sense that the mylar would be at its best in a smaller room, but I suspect it's probably worth it even in larger spaces. Personally I think the 6 mil curtain style waterproof mylar is where it's at. Everything else looks like glorified tinfoil that I wouldn't expect to stand the test of time.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the Feedback Faron Peckham! We appreciate your support! Airflow is a big issue,,,

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the support logiclab1!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 I have used reflective sheets more for that idea...that way air flow is maintained.

  • @homeyv
    @homeyv 3 роки тому +1

    I am wondering if anyone else uses these to grow other things? lettuce, flowering basil? how do they compare with regular t5ho? I'm asking because they are the "same" lumen output. any opinions?

  • @belindagroene8957
    @belindagroene8957 4 роки тому

    You have some pink trays with black lids shown in the video. What size are they and where did you purchase them?
    Awesome video. We ordered everything we need from your amazon page to build the 6 tier rack with 6 fans.......Now we need to order trays .........

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому +1

      The main trays we use are Bootstrap Farmer 10x20 trays: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1148267&u=2175923&m=72437&urllink=&afftrack="
      We like the short ones because you can use a variety of mediums in it and it makes for easier harvesting... Thank you so much for the support!

  • @GauisHelenaMohaim
    @GauisHelenaMohaim 2 місяці тому

    In the EU these T8 fixtures are available in 2 different light colors, warm and cool white. Could you please describe the color of the lights you are using in this video?

  • @Itsthetaz
    @Itsthetaz Рік тому

    What size shelves do you use and what brand? It looks like those are the 4ft leds? So 48inch 1200mm wide shelves?

  • @barrywuthrich8530
    @barrywuthrich8530 Рік тому

    Is it possible that the height of the greens being too tall can be mitigated by adjusting the lights lower/closer to the trays?? Perhaps a study with various distances of light to tray would be cool. Even adjusting the distance as the greens grow might be worthwhile.

  • @DBCVC
    @DBCVC 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Your lighting description was somewhat confusing as you referred to lights or did you means lamps, big difference. Light is the housing holding the lamps. Liked your color temperature K value, but how about Lumen output instead of a Par value in the testing. When you purchase lamps they come with a Lumens rating and Kelvin rating. Your referral to Par value is pretty much useless when purchasing lamps.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂Thank you so much for the support D C!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 Hope you'll scan it over once or twice...Happy Easter!

  • @Sunshine-tf4ul
    @Sunshine-tf4ul 2 роки тому

    Hi! Are these T8 lights good for germinating flowers??? I heard someone mention the lights need to be at least 6500k lumins.🤷‍♀️

  • @melnikne1
    @melnikne1 3 роки тому +1

    Which lights do you use for on the grow?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂We suggest using Three 20watt T5 LED’s per shelf. We look for a minimum of 6,000 lumens per shelf. We have used these for a while with great success www.amazon.com/dp/B07F2WMCP2?tag=onamzonthegro-20&linkCode=ic5&ascsubtag=amzn1.infl.us.product&creativeASIN=B07F2WMCP2&ref=exp_onthegrowfarms_dp_vv_d

  • @beccabee94
    @beccabee94 10 місяців тому +1

    If I had a shelf that could only hold a 1010 tray then would you recommend using only 1 light per shelf or 2?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  10 місяців тому

      2 lights would be ideal, that way you get good coverage across their canopy. However, a single light would still work well too. At home we have a small shelf that can hold 2 10x10 trays per shelf, and we use a single light at the moment and it gets the job done for now!

  • @joeysoprano8405
    @joeysoprano8405 Рік тому

    Nice video and cool channel. 💯

  • @alanaweaver8942
    @alanaweaver8942 3 роки тому +1

    What meter do you use to test the PAR for led lights?

  • @SamMelik
    @SamMelik Рік тому

    Why did I subscribe? for that "on on on" part lol

  • @traxus5326
    @traxus5326 4 роки тому +1

    Wow. Great info. Thanks.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂Thank you so much for the Feedback Yoocaa! We appreciate your support! Please relay the link!!!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂 Thank you so much for the support Traxus Asor!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄

  • @Sebastian-ms6bj
    @Sebastian-ms6bj 6 місяців тому

    Where did you get the PAR output of these T8 lights... don't see it anywhere in the link below?

  • @jmajick4415
    @jmajick4415 3 роки тому +1

    It may be double the electrical cost but what % of profit gained or lost is that cost?
    In your test you have about a 24% increase in total yield (102g) at 50% increased electricity cost but that's only 12 cents/day or 84 cents total for 2 trays. With the extra 24% (102grams) you will more than make up for that extra 84 cents.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      💚Thank you so much for the support j majick!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 Love your eye for details as well as profits.

  • @meezysmentality
    @meezysmentality Рік тому

    Are those 4 foot lights ? Is it possible to grow with only one T8 light per rack level ?

  • @theredroaster7442
    @theredroaster7442 7 місяців тому

    What is the height difference between each shelf on your rack?

  • @trollbane66
    @trollbane66 2 роки тому

    You have to figure your time as money. I think when figure the T8's give you a better yield for the same work, they pay for the investment pretty quickly.

  • @torrielandsman4625
    @torrielandsman4625 4 роки тому +6

    put the T-5s a little closer and you will achieve the same results as the T-8

    • @fledgling5616
      @fledgling5616 3 роки тому +1

      Really??

    • @torrielandsman4625
      @torrielandsman4625 3 роки тому

      @@fledgling5616 Really! you can put the T5's 1/2 inch above the tray if you want, I would have picked a 5000 or even 4500 Kelvin rather than 6500 for the T5's. The purple is because of colour temperature and intensity.
      compare grams per watt and the T5 wins. and they last for 50,000 hours.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you so much for the support Torrie Landsman!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 Torrie Landsman 😀We are so excited to announce that both our Microgreens Master Book and our first Microgreens Cookbook will be available very soon!
      😃Please visit our new website at 0nthegrow.net for info and early sign up!!!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      😊Thank you so much for the Feedback Torrie Landsman! We appreciate your support!

  • @ann3614
    @ann3614 2 роки тому

    Is it ok to use 8000 lumens instead of 6000 lumens per shelf?

  • @leahunt
    @leahunt 3 місяці тому

    9:25 Very helpful, thank you!

  • @gw2macken757
    @gw2macken757 3 роки тому

    Great info. Thank you.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching GW2 MacKen!!! 😄 Glad you enjoyed it!
      Sure is nice to hear we help folks...anything more on light issues etc???🤨

  • @deleqtronica8733
    @deleqtronica8733 Місяць тому

    T5s have only a single strip of leds that faces downwards to the diffuser, T8s have 2 rows of angled LEDs through a clear cover. I wish they would make T5s with clear covers, because that would be the best for growing.

  • @EricFerrell-wt3vv
    @EricFerrell-wt3vv Рік тому

    so you need 3 per shelf or can they be used with 2 per

  • @jc6226
    @jc6226 4 роки тому

    Cutting off diffusers on frosted bulbs sounds like a bad idea (even if they didnt expose wires...), because this isn't going to increase par output unless you have a better oriented and more ideally reflective material above them than the included diffusers in order to redirect light to plants below. Diffusers are there to increase par output downward since frosted bulbs are meant to diffuse light in all directions and therefore be easier on the eyes; clear tubes are for directional light, e.g. for growing. Also, food for thought: vertical growth is important for saving space, but why would you continually water/store water above non-waterproof light fixtures? Not a good idea even if on GFCI breakers.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому +3

      We've had people with PAR meters say that it doubles in PAR when they took it off... I haven't tried it, but I don't see why they would lie :) It makes sense though because it is slightly opaque, thus blocking the light to soften it when compared to the clear.
      As for watering, if you use care when watering and put in shelf liners like we do, there isn't water getting onto the fixtures... If you do not have shelf-liners on or you are really careless in how you water, then it would be pretty concerning.

  • @g76312459777865m
    @g76312459777865m 4 роки тому

    awesome video!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for the support Matt Smolinski!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄

  • @shawnmoore9714
    @shawnmoore9714 11 місяців тому

    You could do a simple definitive comparison be just us showing us a grams per watt per day between the 2 lights.

  • @meezysmentality
    @meezysmentality Рік тому

    CJ: where do I find the Barrina T 8 4 foot lights for $13.31 each ?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  Рік тому

      We're not in control of pricing of Amazon sellers. They were $13.31 at the time of the test, but prices fluctuate as it's not our products.
      We have products that we sell and the pricing stays consistently low.

  • @papothedon
    @papothedon 2 роки тому

    How many hrs a day do you keep your micro greens under the lights

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  2 роки тому

      17 hours on and 7 hours off

  • @chandanaperera7182
    @chandanaperera7182 11 місяців тому

    Do you leave trays under light 24hrs per day?

    • @po.po.poquito
      @po.po.poquito 6 місяців тому

      No, plants need light for 12-14 hours a day then darkness the rest.

  • @4ktur
    @4ktur Рік тому

    how can i make 45*c groin box into 25*c growing box

  • @tharinastoltz2530
    @tharinastoltz2530 4 роки тому +1

    What is the temperature in you growspace?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому

      Generally it is between 75F and 80F. Sometimes it dips down in the night, but averages those temperatures. Our humidity is usually around 50% or below. Hope that helps!

    • @tharinastoltz2530
      @tharinastoltz2530 4 роки тому

      I live in South Africa and we are still experiencing the last couple of winter days. My germination and grow times are quite a bit longer than yours. Our temperatures vary between 60 and 68 during the day and 32 at night time. So I suppose it makes sense that it will take a bit longer..

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂Can't wait to hear how it turns out Tharina Stoltz! Let us know if you have any questions!!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Hello Tharina Stoltz ! Our space stays between 75-80F degrees in the Summer (Best Germination Temps) and between 67-73F in Winter and our humidity around 50% or under. We also have one large fan that circulates the majority of the air and small computer fans on each shelf of each rack. All fans are running for 24 hours of the day. We do not pump carbon-dioxide in the space and the space only exchanges air when we open the door a few times throughout the day.🙂 I hope this helps!

  • @brotherarcanine7717
    @brotherarcanine7717 2 роки тому

    Would've liked a better cost/benefit breakdown. Would be good to know the amount of money an extra 50grams makes you and how long it will take to get your money back on the T8's at these yields, feel like I need to do that work myself now even after watching the video in its entirety. :/

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  2 роки тому +1

      Well, the price is generally fluctuation and what you can get for 50g is entirely up to you. How you package, what you sell, what your market allows... it's like 30 seconds of work if you know your basics on your sales. 50g is nearly 2oz... locally microgreens are sold for $3.99-2oz here... so it's worth an extra $4.00 per tray. 4 trays per rack... that's an extra $18.00 per grow... it's easy math, I've done the hard part, just plug in some simple numbers.

  • @fledgling5616
    @fledgling5616 3 роки тому

    Why isn’t it better to have lights on 24/7? I know no one does that but I’m just wondering why. Thanks!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      🙂 Plants produce chlorophyll to harness the energy of the sunlight but, they also need darkness to complete their chemical leveled reactions...

    • @fledgling5616
      @fledgling5616 3 роки тому

      Thanks

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      You are so welcome! Thank you so much for the support whateversclever!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄

  • @JS-mq6ve
    @JS-mq6ve 3 роки тому

    Hey I appreciate your vids. I'm getting confused between all the iterations with various light vids though... Can someone give me a tldr version of what the best light is? Hahah. Would be cool if on your Amazon product page you could include a brief summary or something? Sorry - this stuff is overwhelming. Also you didn't link the Sunblaster because you recommended the LED over that, right?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      🙂We love our Barrina T5 20w lights...to keep it simple!

    • @JS-mq6ve
      @JS-mq6ve 3 роки тому

      @@OnTheGrow Thanks! I'm going to try them for veggie seedlings and see how they do. Looks like you do not adjust the height, just keep them at the top of your rack about 12-13" from your trays, 3 lights per shelf - is that right?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      Yes! 😀 J S Again...we really benefit from your support and nice compliments!!! Have you visited our newest website...
      www.onthegrow.net ...we are so proud of the help it provides!!!

    • @JS-mq6ve
      @JS-mq6ve 3 роки тому

      @@OnTheGrow Sure have. Thanks again!!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Awesome! We are so happy to hear when we are able to help! Makes our day! keep Be-Leafing!

  • @jamesh3837
    @jamesh3837 3 роки тому

    So these aren't rated as full spectrum grow lights? They're just shop lights?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Yup! And they work really well from our over two years of testing...

    • @jamesh3837
      @jamesh3837 3 роки тому

      @@OnTheGrow that's crazy. I've been paying way too much for full spectrum lights labeled as grow lights and I'm not even happy with the results I'm getting

  • @laurapham1748
    @laurapham1748 4 роки тому

    Thanks
    It is very help

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the support Laura Pham!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄

  • @sierramojo5639
    @sierramojo5639 4 роки тому

    Why not use a full spectrum t8 grow light?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Sierra Mojo 😉Hello again from "On The Grow"...We apologize for not being timely on your last request or comment!!! We've been blessed to have so many welcoming responses as well as questions from the "MicroGreen Community".
      😄Fear not for the future...we have two new grow team members here to assist with all aspects of your grow needs and questions. Please feel free to jump back in to sharing and looking to us for assistance!! Sierra Mojo We are so excited to announce that both our Microgreens master book and our first cookbook will be available very soon!

  • @davidvasquez4259
    @davidvasquez4259 4 роки тому

    I’ll go with the t-5 save money while making money

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      😀 David Vasquez Again...we really benefit from your support and nice compliments!!! Have you visited our newest website...
      www.onthegrow.net ...we are so proud of the help it provides!!! 😊 That's the beauty of microgreens! So many things do work! Just find out what is best for you! Keep-Be-Leafing!

    • @davidvasquez4259
      @davidvasquez4259 3 роки тому

      I haven’t I’ll check out your newest post

  • @cuzz467
    @cuzz467 4 роки тому

    I have 2ft 20watt T8s 6500k. Does it matter with orientation they are

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      John Denaci 😉Hello again from "On The Grow"...We apologize for not being timely on your last request or comment!!! We've been blessed to have so many welcoming responses as well as questions from the "MicroGreen Community".
      😄Fear not for the future...we have two new grow team members here to assist with all aspects of your grow needs and questions. Please feel free to jump back in to sharing and looking to us for assistance!! John Denaci We are so excited to announce that both our Microgreens master book and our first cookbook will be available very soon!

  • @nicossoloyo
    @nicossoloyo 4 роки тому

    why you don?t use some reflective material to use some of the wasted light?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому +1

      We like to test it as is first, then we see how to improve later. Gotta get a baseline understanding of what the lights are capable of first!

    • @nicossoloyo
      @nicossoloyo 4 роки тому

      @@OnTheGrow looking forward to it

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      We love a good test ! And not everyone has the $$ to get started, Right?

  • @jpcampbell
    @jpcampbell 4 роки тому +1

    Drop the bass!!

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому

      Lol

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      😊Thank you so much for the Feedback John Campbell! We appreciate your support!

  • @TheWrongMisssy
    @TheWrongMisssy 4 роки тому +3

    On on on onon..🤣

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  4 роки тому

      Lol, that was so great :)

  • @prcindustries6665
    @prcindustries6665 3 роки тому

    Please one video to onion growing

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      Thank-you for Be-Leafing! We have a UA-cam playlist that has all our Full Walk-Through grows for different crops and we also have a ‘How to grow microgreens’ blog that you may find helpful. I linked both below for you!
      Playlist: https//ua-cam.com/play/PLkEXI0BumyG5OBbqj_wXM6gnPB6gJ4alW.html
      Blog: www.onthegrow.net/post/how-to-grow-microgreens-on-the-grow

  • @barbsvoboda9634
    @barbsvoboda9634 3 роки тому

    I have the T5 Barrina lights. I grow only cut flowers. They were doing ok but I noticed some were not germinating as quick. And the stems are a little weak. So I bought the Barrina T8’s. They get a lot hotter. I usually keep the lights 2-3 inches above my plants but since they are hotter I guess I should keep them farther away. But will they get leggy?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      💚 Sorry we don't grow flowers...all our data pertains to microgreens!!

  • @Grow_With_April
    @Grow_With_April Рік тому

    Looks like the T8 is more like the results of a Sunblaster

  • @michaelstarks7029
    @michaelstarks7029 3 роки тому

    Why choose 5000k over 6500?

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      🙂Thank you so much for the support Michael Starks!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 We target a shelf to be at or near 6000 so we don't use anything rated already higher!!!

  • @itay9969
    @itay9969 9 місяців тому

    Without clear statistics, coming from replicated observations, the finding could be random, especially when it is said that the results are very close

  • @FAISALKHAN-ts5lf
    @FAISALKHAN-ts5lf 4 роки тому

    Please Fenugreek microgreen full video create please

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      We have a UA-cam playlist that has all our Full Walk-Through grows for different crops and we also have a ‘How to grow microgreens’ blog that you may find helpful. I linked both below for you!
      Playlist: https//ua-cam.com/play/PLkEXI0BumyG5OBbqj_wXM6gnPB6gJ4alW.html
      Blog: www.onthegrow.net/post/how-to-grow-microgreens-on-the-grow

  • @allennorman1628
    @allennorman1628 3 роки тому

    T5 should be higher from plant.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому +1

      Why is that? We’ve done around 50 light trials using them at various heights against other lights... I’d love to hear your take!

  • @hildebertocarreiro9232
    @hildebertocarreiro9232 2 роки тому

    use mirrors save electric

  • @coedshowers
    @coedshowers 4 роки тому

    Hit me up, Ill send you some custom t8 28w I have made for me in china, they are 4000K and 6500K cual chip.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  3 роки тому

      🙂Thank you coedshowers 🥳 We really appreciate your support!! Send themmm...

  • @diannadima7082
    @diannadima7082 2 роки тому

    Toomuch technical information can you talk in laymans language? too much how, about the begginers.

    • @OnTheGrow
      @OnTheGrow  2 роки тому

      We have a lot of videos about lighting... you can slow down the play speed if it's moving too fast. It's pretty simple, you just have to Google a few key words.

  • @diannadima7082
    @diannadima7082 2 роки тому

    Toomuch fast information. You talk too fast . I don't understand/.