That Sigma is a fantastic deal and will definitely help a lot of photographers by adding it to their kit. I love your videos! The way that you all compare things is top quality and the information you give is ace and is explained in the most easiest and professional way that I've seen. Cheers!
Chris and Jordan just released their review of the 20 mm. As always, they do a nice job, but their review was shot on the Sigma body and there was no direct comparison to the Sony lens beyond a mention. Can’t wait for the full Northrup review in comparison to the 1.8 Sony shot on a Sony body. T&C really excel at providing the direct comparisons.
Why are the sharpness tests always conducted wide open? I would like to see some stopped down comparisons too, especially for a wide lens that will most probably used for landscapes too.
Sharpness differences are greatest wide-open. A lens that is sharper wide-open is also sharper shut down, but that difference is less and less. Eventually diffraction is such a huge factor that lens sharpness doesn't matter much at all.
@@TonyAndChelsea Sure but it would have been nice to see at f/2 as well. For ex, the CA is quite nasty on both (but even worse on the Sigma wide open) and I know it looks fine on the Sony at f/2, so I was wondering how it looked on the Sigma at f/2.
Christopher Frost looks at sharpness as you stop down, as well as things like coma smear, flaring, and a bunch of other technical tests. He is another good one to follow.
@@TonyAndChelsea That's true, although some of the sharpness differences on the edges could be down to field curvature, so I think some stopped down tests would help eliminate that and give a better idea of edge sharpness. For us landscape people who want edge to edge sharpness anyway.
I'm new to photography and am looking for the right lens to take great photos in Hawaii this summer with the kids. I have a Sony a6400 (which I currently use for podcasting). This review has helped me greatly. Would you suggest the Sigma 24mm f/1.4 or the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 for our trip to Hawaii (outdoor photos, people moving, portraits of the family in action, and landscape/sunrises/sunsets)? Thank you for your review and feedback!
This comparison only makes sense if you're buying either new. On the used market right now, they are comparable in price (mostly because the Sony is older). The Sony is almost a no brainer on the used market.
Good but I have bought a Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF and it does the work. I paid a small amount of money with excellent optic quality. And you can use it for Astro photography as well.
Two Notes: First of all, the Sony seems to be a hair 'wider' than the Sigma's 24mm; it's definitely noticeable at 4:18 in the mannequin backlighting test.... Also, only (certain) Sony native lenses will allow you to achieve the highest frame rate capture of 30 fps on the A1, so if you must have the highest rate possible, go native... Either way, the Sigma looks like an outstanding release.
Very nicely done and thorough. Thank you! I must say, the 22-pointed stars are, for me, a negative for both of these lenses (more is NOT better). I'm buying a super inexpensive Laowa 12-24 lens mainly for its 5 straight bladed aperture. 10 well-defined star points for the win! Oh, and the 77mm filter on a 12mm full-frame ultra-wide is nice too. It's slow though so I'll be up on a tripod with that lens and there will be no astrophotography. I know, I'm comparing apples to oranges here but if your viewer is mainly interested in beautiful starbursts, there are better choices out there for less. It would be interesting to see how the upcoming budget Canon RF 24mm 1.8 fares against these two. Thanks again!
Amen!! Why can't there at least be an even number of aperture blades to reduce the amount of star points and generally make it look better? What is the tradeoff? I always reach for more classic lens designs if I want to shoot a good starburst. Voigtlander 15mm, Loxia 21/25, etc. But why can't these super expensive lenses have 10 blades? Bokeh would be almost just as smooth but starbursts 100 times better. Would love to know the reason.
I just worry, like you said, it’s a similar range as a smart phone. If I spend extra money to get the Sony lens, it might give me that much more of an edge, especially as new smart phones come out in the next year or two where they keep increasing the quality on it. I want this to be worthwhile and look better than my iPhone 13 Pro, I’m currently having depth of field problems, so I’m assuming this will give me a little more control over the focus of my objects. By the way, will this distort objects that are close up in front of the camera? My iPhone doesn’t have that problem.
I've watched 3 or 4 reviews of this lens and I suspect there is a sample variation problem here. Your reivews is the only that shows this lens is competing with Sony GM while all others seem to experience really bad wide open performance that made me question why did sigma went backwards with DG DN version compared to the old DSLR counterpart.
Thanks T&C! Do you also have the new sigma 20mm 1.4? I’m still in my return window for the Sony 20mm 1.8. I know it’s a good lens, but the extra light is always intriguing.
Tony when are you gonna give your take on DALLE-2? Sorry, off topic but I gotta ask since it’s the biggest news for digital creatives possibly in my lifetime
Listening to your mellifluous voices as I was going to sleep after a very long day of work and more work, and -- what did I just hear Chelsea say? "Program a bull-butt-in" What had I just heard? My wandering mind entertained the amusing thought of a bull, standing ready to rudely interrupt a scene on -demand, which made total sense to my half-asleep brain. I then awakened fully and and restarted the video, and immediately was able to re-interpret the words Chelsea said correctly. The best part? I then realized that Chelsea *had*, in effect, programmed a bull butt-in into my drifting-off-to-sleep thoughts. Anyway, appreciate the review as always, and my now fully awake brain now appreciates knowing that I have a viable alternative to the 24 GM that can save me $500. Now I'll turn the ipad off and return to sleep to see if a bull will be interrupting any of my dreams. Still wondering if that bird's family is doing okay.
I have 3 Sigma Art lenses. They are a great option if you don't have Sony money! I have been considering the Sigma Art 105 f/1.4 for a while. I can't think of a better focal length and aperture combo but its a niche lens. Have you reviewed it yet?
It's a tough compromise. If I reduce the shutter speed I also increase the noise which also makes it harder to assess sharpness. Nonetheless star trails still reveal sharpness and coma because the stars just move in a line.
That feeling, when you already spent a lot of money on Sony 24 1.4 few years ago, and don't need to seriously consider this new Sigma lens. Still glad they add new options for lesser money. Some of their lenses are really cool.
Please make video on how to use micro four thirds camera and wireless trigger for micro four thirds in TTL mode with flash in TTL mode for canon and nikon As its easy to find nikon and Canon TTL flash in market so can i use them with micro four third camera in TTL mode
I realized that the Name Brand lenses have more value to the professionals who have the money and a reputation to keep. For casual hobbyist, anything is fine 😂
For anyone casual, casual is fine. There are plenty of hobbyists who are quite enthusiastic and above all, have much more creative freedom than many professionals have. Expensive lenses aren't just to make money with. People with $50.000 home amplifiers don't buy them to make money either.
1:12 Are you nuts? Who cares about bokeh on a wide angle lens.That focal length is for landscape and maybe astro.Look at the face distorsions (big nose) when you do portraits... 😆
That Sigma is a fantastic deal and will definitely help a lot of photographers by adding it to their kit. I love your videos! The way that you all compare things is top quality and the information you give is ace and is explained in the most easiest and professional way that I've seen. Cheers!
The Sony 24mm 1.4 GM are still the best 24mm of all brands !
I purchased a 24mm GM for $1000 and it’s a killer lens. Sigma is great, but the GM’s are the best!
@@rickt.8866 I agree
Focus lock on/off feature is such a great feature at the sigma!
Chris and Jordan just released their review of the 20 mm. As always, they do a nice job, but their review was shot on the Sigma body and there was no direct comparison to the Sony lens beyond a mention. Can’t wait for the full Northrup review in comparison to the 1.8 Sony shot on a Sony body. T&C really excel at providing the direct comparisons.
Why are the sharpness tests always conducted wide open? I would like to see some stopped down comparisons too, especially for a wide lens that will most probably used for landscapes too.
Sharpness differences are greatest wide-open. A lens that is sharper wide-open is also sharper shut down, but that difference is less and less. Eventually diffraction is such a huge factor that lens sharpness doesn't matter much at all.
Good point 👌🏼
@@TonyAndChelsea Sure but it would have been nice to see at f/2 as well. For ex, the CA is quite nasty on both (but even worse on the Sigma wide open) and I know it looks fine on the Sony at f/2, so I was wondering how it looked on the Sigma at f/2.
Christopher Frost looks at sharpness as you stop down, as well as things like coma smear, flaring, and a bunch of other technical tests. He is another good one to follow.
@@TonyAndChelsea That's true, although some of the sharpness differences on the edges could be down to field curvature, so I think some stopped down tests would help eliminate that and give a better idea of edge sharpness. For us landscape people who want edge to edge sharpness anyway.
The metronome test should be the new lens testing boilerplate for the channel - a new paradigm begins.
I'm using an adapted Sigma EF mount f1.4 Art, probably not comparable, but the f1.4 is great for night sky shots.
I love my 24/1.4 GM and after seeing this review I'm sure I would love the Sigma just as much if I didn't already own the sony.
I'm new to photography and am looking for the right lens to take great photos in Hawaii this summer with the kids. I have a Sony a6400 (which I currently use for podcasting). This review has helped me greatly. Would you suggest the Sigma 24mm f/1.4 or the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 for our trip to Hawaii (outdoor photos, people moving, portraits of the family in action, and landscape/sunrises/sunsets)? Thank you for your review and feedback!
I'm in the Canon economy system but all my lens are Sigma. I'm very happy with Sigma and ur right I have more money in my pocket
Please add focus breathing to your check list. Thanks!
for information currently (Aug/Sep) street price of Sony and Sigma are HK$8000 and HK$7000 respectively only Hk$1000 or USD130 difference
20mm 1.4 review soon?
yeah coming soon
I see this lens being paired with the new Sigma Quattro that got announced.
This comparison only makes sense if you're buying either new. On the used market right now, they are comparable in price (mostly because the Sony is older). The Sony is almost a no brainer on the used market.
Good but I have bought a Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF and it does the work. I paid a small amount of money with excellent optic quality.
And you can use it for Astro photography as well.
What camera did you use? Doesn’t that make a big difference?
Two Notes: First of all, the Sony seems to be a hair 'wider' than the Sigma's 24mm; it's definitely noticeable at 4:18 in the mannequin backlighting test.... Also, only (certain) Sony native lenses will allow you to achieve the highest frame rate capture of 30 fps on the A1, so if you must have the highest rate possible, go native... Either way, the Sigma looks like an outstanding release.
30fps only with Sony native lens? Is it a fact or rumors only. I never saw a side by side comparison. That would be interesting.
Very nicely done and thorough. Thank you! I must say, the 22-pointed stars are, for me, a negative for both of these lenses (more is NOT better). I'm buying a super inexpensive Laowa 12-24 lens mainly for its 5 straight bladed aperture. 10 well-defined star points for the win! Oh, and the 77mm filter on a 12mm full-frame ultra-wide is nice too. It's slow though so I'll be up on a tripod with that lens and there will be no astrophotography. I know, I'm comparing apples to oranges here but if your viewer is mainly interested in beautiful starbursts, there are better choices out there for less. It would be interesting to see how the upcoming budget Canon RF 24mm 1.8 fares against these two. Thanks again!
Great feedback!
Amen!! Why can't there at least be an even number of aperture blades to reduce the amount of star points and generally make it look better? What is the tradeoff? I always reach for more classic lens designs if I want to shoot a good starburst. Voigtlander 15mm, Loxia 21/25, etc.
But why can't these super expensive lenses have 10 blades? Bokeh would be almost just as smooth but starbursts 100 times better. Would love to know the reason.
I just worry, like you said, it’s a similar range as a smart phone. If I spend extra money to get the Sony lens, it might give me that much more of an edge, especially as new smart phones come out in the next year or two where they keep increasing the quality on it. I want this to be worthwhile and look better than my iPhone 13 Pro, I’m currently having depth of field problems, so I’m assuming this will give me a little more control over the focus of my objects. By the way, will this distort objects that are close up in front of the camera? My iPhone doesn’t have that problem.
you forgot to compare close-up image quality at minimum focus distance in this one (in the other video where you compare the 20mm lenses you did it)
I've watched 3 or 4 reviews of this lens and I suspect there is a sample variation problem here. Your reivews is the only that shows this lens is competing with Sony GM while all others seem to experience really bad wide open performance that made me question why did sigma went backwards with DG DN version compared to the old DSLR counterpart.
Thanks T&C! Do you also have the new sigma 20mm 1.4? I’m still in my return window for the Sony 20mm 1.8. I know it’s a good lens, but the extra light is always intriguing.
We do and our review should be out in the next week or so.
Thanks. I’m sorry I didn’t see where you answered that same question earlier.
Tony when are you gonna give your take on DALLE-2? Sorry, off topic but I gotta ask since it’s the biggest news for digital creatives possibly in my lifetime
Oh I'm really interested in that! Chelsea is working on a piece right now.
Oi Tony q resenha ótima 👏👏👏👏👏
Any difference across different f stops, both center and edge?
Listening to your mellifluous voices as I was going to sleep after a very long day of work and more work, and -- what did I just hear Chelsea say? "Program a bull-butt-in" What had I just heard? My wandering mind entertained the amusing thought of a bull, standing ready to rudely interrupt a scene on -demand, which made total sense to my half-asleep brain. I then awakened fully and and restarted the video, and immediately was able to re-interpret the words Chelsea said correctly. The best part? I then realized that Chelsea *had*, in effect, programmed a bull butt-in into my drifting-off-to-sleep thoughts. Anyway, appreciate the review as always, and my now fully awake brain now appreciates knowing that I have a viable alternative to the 24 GM that can save me $500. Now I'll turn the ipad off and return to sleep to see if a bull will be interrupting any of my dreams. Still wondering if that bird's family is doing okay.
I dream of one day being able to say "bye" as casually as Tony
Seems to have some breathing there for video?
Hey guys, are you testing the X-H2s? I can't wait for the review to come out!
We will, but it's not yet available.
@@TonyAndChelsea Thanks
Both lenses are too big for the Sony E system. What's the use of having a small camera if you have to use a large lens?
Those ain’t big lenses tho
Hope Sigma gets into RF lenses.
I have 3 Sigma Art lenses. They are a great option if you don't have Sony money! I have been considering the Sigma Art 105 f/1.4 for a while. I can't think of a better focal length and aperture combo but its a niche lens. Have you reviewed it yet?
No, sorry.
I would be curious to see how they differ in terms of distorsion.
Nikon Z 24mm f1.8?
I don't see the point of your astro test for sharpness as the stars aren't dots but trails as you took a too long exposure ...
It's a tough compromise. If I reduce the shutter speed I also increase the noise which also makes it harder to assess sharpness. Nonetheless star trails still reveal sharpness and coma because the stars just move in a line.
Another solid Sigma offering.
Thank you 🙏
Macro tie? The Sony looked way sharper 🤔
That feeling, when you already spent a lot of money on Sony 24 1.4 few years ago, and don't need to seriously consider this new Sigma lens.
Still glad they add new options for lesser money. Some of their lenses are really cool.
really good video
To some people the savings means more than the pic quality
Can you do 30fps with this on A1 tho?
Sure, in MF.
Who’s using a 24 prime for 30 fps photos?
@@Reviews4fun1 professional wildlife photographers
@@Reviews4fun1 Event photographers in dark environments.
Please make video on how to use micro four thirds camera and wireless trigger for micro four thirds in TTL mode with flash in TTL mode for canon and nikon
As its easy to find nikon and Canon TTL flash in market so can i use them with micro four third camera in TTL mode
I realized that the Name Brand lenses have more value to the professionals who have the money and a reputation to keep. For casual hobbyist, anything is fine 😂
For anyone casual, casual is fine. There are plenty of hobbyists who are quite enthusiastic and above all, have much more creative freedom than many professionals have. Expensive lenses aren't just to make money with. People with $50.000 home amplifiers don't buy them to make money either.
I wonder what is the limit of reverse engineering.
Looking at what smartphones can do, I think we are being deceived by manufacturers of mirrorless cameras.
Need a camera need a sponsor. Please
Sigma always make a big len.
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Tony is obsessed with smartphones. Can we get a video without talking about smartphones every time.
It would be silly to not mention smartphones when more than 50% of people use their smartphones for travel photos and vlogging.
1:12 Are you nuts? Who cares about bokeh on a wide angle lens.That focal length is for landscape and maybe astro.Look at the face distorsions (big nose) when you do portraits... 😆
No, it matters a lot. And you can shoot more than just a face.
When we will get RF lenses from Sigma 🤬
Mirrorless cameras are a dying bread. Get an iPhone ppl.