RED KOMODO : THE FINAL VERDICT
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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Hello everyone! After testing out the RED KOMODO extensively in the past weeks I decided to put together a review that sums up my experience with it.
Watch "The Rise Of Fall - Shot on Red Komodo" here : • The Rise Of Fall - Sho...
If I missed anything or you have any extra questions please feel free to leave a comment.
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P.S: I did debayer the R3d files correctly following the RED guidelines on their youtube channel, and still I had a weird experience with the RED footage in Resolve.
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The form factor is absolutely amazing. Technology has come a long way. Great review! Suddenly I want one.
Yes!! Agreed
Awesome review! Love how simple and straightforward you spoke about this camera. Covered the essentials and your perspective. subscribed!!
Thank you so much!! Glad you liked it!!
I don’t know if it already has been said here: but your issues in grading and especially qualifying colors are based in the IPP2 workflow. Since resolves qualifier looks at the actual colors in the node your qualifying in, it only sees log colors in that case. What you could do is grading in your „normal“ Color Management and transform the red colors via a CST for example before qualifying colors
Hmm .. I usually start to qualify colors only when I already got rid of the log flatness and saturation. I have a similar node tree for all the cameras I’ve ever used... that didn’t work with the Komodo for some reason :/
AxiA did you do the ipp2 workflow via the color management tab in the settings? If so: think of it as a print that happens in the end, while everything you do in the nodes is in the ipp2 color space - which is the flat image
@@DavidSattler yes i used RCM as explained in the RED Komodo video setting for resolve that RED released a few weeks ago
@@AxiA Hi there, loved your video. The problem with keying is that you are still in LOG, and only till the end of the pipeline is the image converted to Red709. This happens as well with Alexa log files, if you leave the log to Rec709 till the end (which is a better way to grade). A solution is to put a node converting from IPP2 to Rec709, and then another node Rec709 to IPP2 (go to OFX color transforms). In between those two nodes then, your tools will work like Rec709 and selecting will be easier. Check out Juan Melara's video on this
ua-cam.com/video/8qJ7i9b28Lo/v-deo.html
@@joanpoggio thank you so much will check!!
really want to see your color grading process for the r3d files. that would be some good content!
wife??? has he got wife?? I was pretty sure he is gay
Top-quality imaging and color. Found your review extremely informative and really enjoyed "The Rise Of Fall". Color and editing was superb. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much !!
best review of the komodo on line but more importantly you have the BEST FOOTAGE
Solid review. I feel like you’re on the right track as opposed to other “reviewers” This camera was never designed to replace a BMPCC, or similar. This thing is designed for crash cams or very specialized shots. People are taking a hammer, reviewing it as a screwdriver, and complaining about its features. Good job on recognizing what are, in your opinion “flaws” but commenting how they might be flaws in your use case, but not everyone’s. Well done.
I came for a RED Komodo review, stayed because I’m a huge fan of Dekkar. Keep rocking, brother.
Ahaha yes will do !!
I hope blackmagic’s next form is a cube too. The Zcam has the same form as the Komodo and blackmagic should have made the same form factor.
I really hope that too. A small cube would be amazing!
@@AxiA Blackmagic does have one like that. The Micro cinema camera.
www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicmicrocinemacamera
@@timm2020 doesn’t really cut it for me in terms of resolution frame rate and codec and size
Same here! And with autofocus 🤞🏽 I am hoping it is a shrunken version of the Ursa Mini shape.
Yep! Hoping 2021 brings that to us, otherwise I’ll be going Komodo.
Great job with this review man! You spoke very clearly and said all of the important things people need to know in order to make a decision on whether to buy this camera or not.
Thank you so much! I did forget to mention some things but I really wanted to focus on some aspects that were important to me, more than other ones! Thanks again! :D
@@AxiA hai i have a doubt which video camera is best red com, alexa mini, black magic or any other camera?
Huge fan of yours. Thanks for making this video. Still think your footage is the best Ive seen from this cam
Thank you so much man! That’s a huge compliment 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for this review and I directly subscribed. I’m waiting since ages until the Komodo finally arrives here in Germany 🙂
You’ll love the camera! Image quality wise it’s incredible
Nice review! Thanks for taking the time to make this! Gonna check out "The Rise of Fall" now. :)
Thank you sir !!
@@AxiA :)
Great video as always Brotha. That Komoda is amazing
Thank you borther, yes that camera is very good!!
Great video AxiA. You touched upon pretty much all the important stuff plus the post color grading that most videos glass over or skip. This is definitely my next camera, for two of the reasons you mentioned: 1) entering into the Red ecosystem, and 2) bragging rights.
Coming from mostly Canon cameras, I already have cine lenses and batteries I can use on the Komodo (I was hoping you'd mention these two things: the Canon batteries and EF/RF mount system). And to be able to shoot short and feature length low budget films, this is going to be a perfect match for me personally.
Just yesterday I got hired to do camera work on a set because I had the RED komodo and all other cameras were RED. So yeah It does open possibilities to own this camera because many other pros own RED and therefore you might get to work with them only because you own the same brand for color matching! Well good luck, It's a great camera.
I think we can say that we're blessed with not just reasonably affordable, but excellent quality cinema cameras. Resolve 17 looks like it may add some significant improvements to BRAW. I awaiting the new Resolve Speed Editor.
Absolutely. Cameras today are all very good. Excited for resolve 17
Cameras aside, it should be a crime to have such a high cool-factor. Sheesh man leave some cool for the rest of us lol. Thanks for the review! Looking forward to seeing more of your work!
Cool factor ? I can barely speak English 🤣🤣 thanks man
Yes mister KOMODO :) from now on :D hehe great review man, I really wanna try that camera one day..for now ill stick with black magic
Nah bro.
That’s my girl camera. I’ll stick to BM as well and invest instead on quality lenses and more lights
what cage you are using with this Komodo?
I don’t have the camera on me now but it’s a cage from Poland , can’t remember the brand name ... it had a 8 in the logo ... it’s red approved !
@@AxiA thank you I got it. It's 8sinn brand. Thank you
Very good review! Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. :)
Thank you so much so much as always man!!
Good to see you! Really fair review. What an amazing year for cameras! As a bmpcc 4k user, I ordered one lumix S5 and pre-ordered a C70. RED is not my dish for now😂
Curious to know why you ordered the S5?
@@damionmiller1 For the real v-log and v-gamut 😃
Why are you ordering so many cameras? Curious to know
Should I get the c70 or the pocket 6k?!
@@pkonttinenbmpcc 6k wins on image quality in my opinion. If we setup the lights and environment, shoot the senses as the storyboard, bmpcc 6k rig will win the job.
thanks for this! Tell us something more about in-camera pre-amps! For documentarists this is gonna be key, I wonder how bad those are. Would you mind doing some test/comparisons? I would really appreciate that. I agree with you, such a terrible mistake not investing in quality pre-amps, given that would not really increase cameras' production costs. Let us know
To me, Blackmagic has a weird skin tone "tone mapped" look which really bugs me.
The Global Shutter from the test footage is what made me go with the Komodo, so I am now waiting for it. (I considered the Sony A7SIII and the BMPCC 6k). The RED just won out for what I am looking for. But all these cameras are so close in image quality, it is the little things making the difference.
With all that being said, I am still considering a BMPCC 4K for my B-Cam.
None of the Reds have those types of preamps though. I really think because of the form factor people are doing comparisons so cameras that are cheaper, but it wasn’t designed to be an A camera. So you won’t get those features we have on the Pocket 6K or Z Cam, or an URSA Mini Pro or C200. I rented it for few days. Apples and oranges in comparison with my BMPCC6K. Definitely lots or pros and cons to buying one. But I loved your cinematic piece and your closing remarks were spot on! Great job
Thank you! I think red delivers a superb image but yes many other cameras are catching up and for a cheaper price with more function. If you’re a pro that can afford spending for a premium image quality then the red makes sense.
In color grading the Komodo I'm wondering if you had a color conversion or Lut applied in a previous node before making post color adjustments? I tend to find similar issues you described in qualifying that way as opposed to making tweaks with a color conversion later in the node tree?
I did set my RCM (resolve color management) just as the RED guidelines on UA-cam for the Komodo... !
@@AxiA so weird! No rec 709 lut or anything? I’d love to play with the new color warper in resolve as well, hoping this will help in color qualifying on a whole new level!
Good information. Have you tried the A7Siii? How does the Komodo compare? Is it miles apart?
I will review the A7siii shortly. I did use the A7siii recently. It’s a great camera , but to me it doesn’t have that cinema feel... the image is great has good DR but still feels digital. It’s very close to a cinema camera but not quite there yet
The Komodo is a gorgeous little camera but considering it was meant as a crash camera and not with the consumer market in mind I haven't ever felt enamored enough to order one. It's too expensive for what it offers. Gorgeous raw colors, global shutter, and wireless antenna but I can do without all that.
The C70 seems like an amazing camera with so much built into it. I wish it was a little less expensive but for now I'm leaning towards it.
This review is mostly for people that want to get the Komodo and shoot with it as a regular camera, being it really can deliver great quality images. Although it was meant as a crash cam it can be used as main camera
What is the filter you’ve added to your lens to achieve those blooming highlights? Black promist?
Who would know more about cinema cameras than Mister Movies himself?!
That's what I'm saying lol
I have graded both the Komodo as well as the pocket 6k. You are right about the small increments, however the red offers a super easy workflow for fcpx which the pocket doesn’t (as far as I know).
very interesting take from a colorgrader. Especially on the skin. I love it. thanks a lot
Thank you!
Axiom!!!!!!!!!!! My worlds are colliding! Dekkar and cinematography!!!!
LoooL :D yes 🙌
Not sure if you already answered this but how did you nail such perfect focus is all those push in shots? Was it the Komodos face tracking?
Thank you but no. It’s just deep focus. I don’t use the AF on the Komodo
@@AxiA oh wow, spectacular work! Thank you for the answer!
What you mention with qualifiers is probably an issue with interpreting the raw color directly. This is why Red suggests converting to their LOG3G10 profile before doing ANYTHING color related. First node can be a color space transform, then some grading nodes, then the LUT created in RedcineX/wherever, or you can do it through the project setup, so that it's set to output to LOG directly after base adjustments. Experiment with doing it different ways if you still have the color selection issue. You set your color temp, ISO, etc, before the conversion to LOG. Once it's in log, color selection should be a LOT more predictable, as you're working with a more normal color space, not giant 16 bit linear raw. Hope this helps :)
I did all that. I followed their guidelines on their UA-cam channel on how to set up a resolve project ... still I had all those problems..!
@@AxiA Hmm, that's really weird. Are you on a new enough version? The compression in the Komodo is actually different than other red cameras, using a different compression method (wavlet vs cosine), so it's not impossible that it was an issue decoding that. Full support for the new codec was only officially added in the last month or two; the footage has been playing back fine, but I imagine there were at least a few behind the scenes things they had to change.
It may also just be that log3g10 is SO flat, and sometimes getting selections on such a flat image can be difficult. It may feel more natural to someone who works with Arri's log than the flatter logs like slog2 or clog1/2. Did you try doing some of the work in a later node, after contrast/saturation has been added? Did it still have the same issue? If so, I'd have to think it's a software issue, because once the color transforms have been applied, the program shouldn't care what it's working with.
Only other thing I can think of is if you're decompression settings are too low, it may be causing issues as well. Low decompression settings can cause color issues, and at many lower settings the color de-noising is actually completely disabled, though they wouldn't actually show up in the final export, just playback.
Been waiting on your input, thanks but which do you feel has a closer color science to the Arri Alexa or matches better?
I have never used an Alexa unfortunately, so I can’t really speak for that sorry :/
@@AxiA Alright ok bro understand
@PRIVATE Thanks for the input, well no wonder why I always liked the BM footages I see on UA-cam compared to the RED's even tho I wanted to like RED's more because of the brand power it would bring me when I tell clients I shoot on RED but the BM images just somehow always look more pleasing to me and closer to Arri, or maybe that's down to many users not knowing how to grade the RED footage properly? (myself included because I downloaded BRAW & R3D files and found BRAW easier to work with honestly)
@PRIVATE love this comment, so I’m curious as to how easy it is to grade in a softer look? Fincher films seem to have the same smoothness in contrast to an Alexa Lut. Would you say that smoothness is easy or a massive job
Great review AxiA, very eye opening especially regarding the color grade difficulties.
Just wondering, do you think it would have been different if shot under Prores file format?
That’s an interesting question that I will investigate. I think in pro res should work just fine
@@AxiA If so, that would really be a kinda temporary solution then. By temporary, i mean the possibility to use easy-to-colorgrade files such as Prores for quick processed videos, the time to learn the R3D colorgrade art (which i guess, may take weeks/months)...
@@nightmusic1974 well the disappointment still is there because usually raw files grade easier ... still kinda upsetting that you gotta use pro res :/
AxiA Indeed that sounds disappointing...But maybe that’s the cost for even better results than Braw, after mastering the process 100%?
Also curious to know if it would be just because of the Komodo, or generally the same issue would happen from any R3D file.To solve this question, that would be interesting to try one of these RedRaw footages available online, and comparing if it reacts the same to qualifying process.Will certainly try that as soon as i get my komodo ;)
You sound Latvian when you say "audio" :D great vid. Cheers.
Surely the cube is the future of cinema cameras? If Black Magic could bring out an improved version of the Micro Cinema Camera (4K or 6K and Black Magic Raw) they really would be on a(nother) winner. I found your comments about the Komodo color science very interesting. Thanks for your review.
I would buy a black magic cube right away 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Man been eyeing this camera, good to know it balances on the moza air 2. Feel you on the function buttons, but I feel like this is a camera that you’ll be using a monitor anyway so you’ll likely have quick access in your monitor.
amazing quality. which lense do you use?
Sigma 18-35 and Tokina 11-20
This camera is clearly for budding DP's who aren't looking for a doc-style camera with great sound inputs, etc. The image and footage looks really good and way better than Blackmagic (I am a BM user) and to me it would be worth it for that alone. I'm surprised you didn't mention the global shutter, but there's something clean about all the moving footage I've seen from it that is probably to do with that and is very appealing.
Nice one. Not to forget the availability of RF mount. This is a big plus.
I wouldn't worry too much about not having the experience to colour grade without a resolve control desk. Not everyone in Hollywood uses them, some still use the Keyboard and mouse. Just takes time :)
awesome thanks!
@@AxiA plus your work looks amazing as is
Great review brother !
Thank you so much!
You spilled the beans at the end....its more about self-validation and showing off of the brand and hoping ill informed clients might fall for the name. You even justified it with a stereotypical high end iphone with a cheap android comparison. (How about high end android by the way? My phone costs a lot more than iphone pro max and i wouldn't give it up for anything)
I own a Komodo (for almost 2 years now) and FX3, owned Blackmagic 6k before these and no there is no dynamic range advantage with Komodo over them. You can checkout CineD lab tests and I agree with them based on my experience. Blackmagic allows highlight recovery in post where as Komodo does recovery within the camera (RED confirmed this). At the end DR is pretty similar unless you're doing something wrong coz each of these cameras have their DR stops distributed differently, so you cant expose them all the same and expect same results.
I too fell for the fluff early on, convinced myself Komodo must be somehow much better because it is Red. Jared Land (RED CEO) is not a fool to give us a camera at $6000 that competes with his own $30k cameras. Its a pretty good camera that is on par in image quality with C70, A7siii, Fx3, FX6, Blackmagic 6k except at a higher cost but gives you the pride and satisfaction and showing off ability of owning a Red camera. Sometimes it works too. Maybe you'll feel more passionate about your work or some clients might feel more at ease with your "professional gear". And may be if you want to upgrade to a Red Raptor down the line and keep this a a b-cam keeping the workflow consistent. But also be aware that there will be a lot of situations where you'll hope you have an FX3 or C70 handy with you because Komodo can slow you down considerably and you may not have that luxury always. You need to be aware of temperature changes, like day to evening shots or even going from indoor to putdoor or viceverca and do blackshading everytime. Or else you could ruin your image with heavy green tint. Also, forget using it in lowlight unless you're in very controlled environments.
For me combination of Komodo + FX3 works perfectly. But I'm pretty sure, the quality of my output wont be impacted if I replace my Komodo with another FX3 or C70. Hopefully this input will help someone considering getting a Komodo. Coz its hard to find honest opinion aboutv this camera on youtube. Not because youtubers or lying to you or misleading you, but for most of them purchasing Red branded camera is feels like a milestone of sorts. Its hard to be honest with ourselves let alone others when we are filled with fascination and pride.
If this makes you feel any better Greig Fraser (DP of Dune, Batman, Star Ward rogue one etc) just shot a Hollywood sci-fi movie (True Love... directed by Gareth Edwards of Rogue One and Godzilla) with Sony FX3. Not as B-cam, its the only cam. If its good enough for them, I guess its good enough for us you and me. If you can afford a Komodo and accessories needed and aware of its quirks....great fo for it. But dont stretch your budget otherwise. Get an FX3 or Fuji X-H2s and spend the rest on lighting and sound and get to work. You'll thank yourself later.
My booooooy is back!!!! Ready to watch!! I've had the komodo and the BMPCC4k on my mind
Thanks for your support!!
Your colorado video was awesome. I was immersed throughout the whole video which is a first since I have a short attention span lol. Did u use autofocus and how was it?
I did not use autofocus... It didn’t work well on my sigma 18-35 :/
@@AxiA oh ok good to know thx
always the top..!!
Price point still not really on par with the competition, especially with all the expensive, proprietary attachments.
The menu system seems like a real deal killer though. Without all the external buttons like a professional Sony or Canon camera, the touchscreen has to be amazing.
Yes! menu is pretty dope. And the camera it's expensive for today's market. But delivers pro footage!
Great content. Komodo vs bm6k? I only want to camera for shooting my own short films. And feature down the line. Any thoughts?
Komodo has in my opinion the best image. Although for the price the pocket cameras are incredible... if you already own lights , lenses and other stuff I’d say go with the Komodo. If you don’t have quality lights or lenses or any sort of other tools that are necessary for filmmaking id say save the money and go for the pocket and invest the difference in lights and other stuff that actually will make your images much better than an actual better camera body
Great review!!!!
How does Komodo compare with Blackmagic Pocket camera image? Because I can preserve more highlights with the Pocket 6k than I do with Alexa
Read my pinned comment on this comment section !
@@AxiA hmm, something is off. With the Pocket 6k, when shooting at iso 800 I can preserve more highlights than the Arri Alexa. Are we saying that Komodo also preserves highlights better than Alexa?
@@leebrandt33 I think has the 4k, Ive heard the 6k seems to have more dynamic range and latitude than the 4k, I think his comparison with the komodo refers to the 6k not the 4k
Cool stuff man.
FINAL VERDICT: I want one!
You have to do Color qualifications in rec709, so add a log2rec709 conversion node and then you can convert back to log after your cq.
Also you can change the step size and increment for printer lights, or just use log wheels which are more granular
A great and fair review. So are you sticking with BMD? :)
I am for now yes. Mainly because I think that a newer camera body isn’t gonna make my work that much better. I think investing in good lenses and more lighting is gonna benefit my career more than a new body
Good job Man!
Thank you so so much !!
In one shot it looks like your Atomos monitor didnt have any cables, are you able to use it wirelessly?
Lol no that was just for BROLL purposes we were losing light and didn’t have the time to plug the cable to get just some footage of me
@@AxiA Ah makes sense! I was going to say i've never seen a wireless Atomos haha
What Lens did you shoot with?
Awesome video! But where did you get that nice yellow turtleneck pullover 😉?!
"These shots are really boring. What can we do? I know... film at 30% speed and make audiences watch three times as long. The'll love it... " I feel ya.
2:25 - To stabilize the Black Magic Pocket, I hold my left arm under the camera then my elbow into my rib area for stabilization, them my right hand balances it from the top.
I didn’t say the bmpcc4k can’t be stabilized , but it’s just harder because of its width , Thank you for sharing you technique, it makes a lot of sense to hold it like that !
@@AxiA Hopefully my comment didn't come across wrong, it didn't sound like you were saying it couldn't be stabilized, just wanted to say how I did it but it's a weird camera body for sure. They need to make it a 'cube'. And, their Ursa bodys are kind of a outdated, like VHS camcorders or something, instead of the modular look.
@@ronineditor9920 oh nono absolutely! I actually should have explained that part better! Yeah I’m also hoping a lot in the cube shape ! Hopefully they listen
turn your mouse DPI down to 800-1000 for davinci resolve if you want more control on the wheels and curves! awesome review!
Thank you so much, how do I find that setting in Resolve ? I would really need that
@@AxiA it is not a resolve setting but rather a setting on your mouse, alternatively if you don't have a "gamer" mouse that has that feature of switchable dpi, you also could try turning windows pointer sensitivity down. it will be a change at first as you will move the mouse a bit more with your arm rather than wrist but you will gain accuracy and you wont loose seconds misclicking on things when making swipe clicks on buttons quickly, and those seconds lost misclicking add up fast. No Worries!! What is the brand of your mouse, i could figure it out real quick for you. some mice need to be running their proprietary software in order to change settings like DPI
@@MrKillerHobbes i use the apple Magic Mouse, pretty standard
@@AxiA Ohh i see, im not used to apple at all but you could check under devices or system preferences for the mouse sensitivity and touch sensitivity options. i cant imagine them not having that on apple
I’m experiencing a substantial amount of noise in LQ and magenta fringing when the subject is against highlights almost like red focus peaking. Have you experienced similar issues? Would it be possible for you to provide a couple of sample files for us to download and test it out? Thanks
Yes I did experience something like this in resovle. It's the RED chroma noise not working if you don't preview and debayer R3d files at a premium quality and if you don't check the box in the export settings "debayer at highest quality" ! try to do this ;) it fixed it for me!
@@AxiA Thank you so much. So it is not the noise contained in the footage itself but a preview quality issue? I've contacted red but they haven't got back to me. I really don't want to return the camera because of sensor noise and artifacts.
Also, have you experienced the magenta fringings as well? It's really bugging me because it looks almost like focus peaking. Once again, I appreciate the help.
@@ianzhao5693 yes. Some red and green nastiness ... it goes away when you debayer at premium quality because it enables chroma noise reduction. I would also suggest as always to keep your iso fairly low . Lower than 1000. If you can in the day maybe shoot at 400. Already at 800 iso the chroma noise is noticeable and it goes away once you check those settings but I believe it’s increasing more at higher iso and it will be hard to remove it at some point
@@AxiA I appreciate the tips. I know it is not supposed to be a low light beast, but I do want to record some decent quality low light footage. I was blown away by these clips from Juan Melara (ua-cam.com/video/sLf9OIsBgN4/v-deo.html) but it seems like unrealistic right now. Does the chroma noise level change your opinion of the camera?
What kind of processor does your make have? i7, i9?
I9!
For those asking how doest it compares directly to the BMPCC 4k/6k I would say that the KOMODO wins easily in the dynamic range where I noticed the most difference between the cameras. Colors in my opinion are also slightly better on the Komodo... HOWEVER, the black magic cameras are much easier to grade, and I think that's why there isn't a lot of super cinematic footage done with the KOMODO yet... Because it's not easy to grade unless you know how to color in a professional way. I'm not buying a KOMODO myself, because I don't think might be worth the money difference from BM cameras, although it's superior in many aspects.
I consider RED much easier to grade than BRAW. I can break apart BRAW much easier because in order to get the kodak look on braw you need to do so much work on it, that even its 12bit-ness can't save it. RED on the other hand has more "neutral" and "muted" colors by default (not radioactive colors as found on Sony sensors that Blackmagic is also using), which makes getting the film look much easier. The only place where BMPCC 4k/6k is better is in the UI, and speed of BRAW editing (the fastest raw to decode). Between a BMPCC 6k and a Red Komodo, to be honest, I prefer a Canon C70.
@@EugeniaLoli isn’t it problem for postproduction and colorgrading that C70 has only compressed h.264 and h.265 codecs?
@@Vrzalik81 not to me. I can grade canon compressed footage to my liking better than braw
@@EugeniaLoli Very interesting point, particularly for people hesitating between the Komodo and C70.Would you consider these 2 cameras fit better together colorwise, than for ex. the Komodo and BMPCC4/6k?
@@nightmusic1974 The sony-based sensor cameras (that includes bmpcc4k, sony) create some very radioactive-looking greens (green skintones on sony, yellowbrown leaves on bmpcc4k), that are not fixable via grading. I wouldn't mix the red, canon,arri with any sony-based camera.
The BMPCC 4k/6k are very long and thus hard to balance on gimballs, I need them to come out with a red form factor
That would be so so great !
Is the Canon 0.71x adapter gonna work on the Komodo?
The Komodo can support the CANON RF speed booster that was made for the EOS R in order to give the EOS R a wider field of view when in 4K. However as of now the RF mount of the Komodo doesn’t work. It work only to attach to it an EF mount converter... when they will finally update the camera so that the camera will be able to accept native RF glass, then the canon RF speedbooster will turn the Komodo into an almost full frame camera. But you can’t use the EF mount version I think
@@AxiA I am talking about the neu first party canon 0.71x for the C70. Would be great to have the fullframe look on the komodo with autofocus
@ I believe so! But as of now the RF mount on the Komodo doesn’t work :/ it works only to attach the EF converter. You can’t use RF lenses as of now despite the fact that it has a native RF mount! I know it’s weird but it’s like that
@ so you can probably use the speedbooster with Manual lenses ... but I doubt it will work with electronic lenses for now
I can see what you are trying to say, plus noticed masking issues , softness around the border edges at 12:43 (hat) and 12:50 (her hand). Maybe you weren't able to use color qualifier and separate the color and you had to draw a mask around. Am I right?
thx for sharing. liked and subscribed.
Great video. Interesting that you find the qualifying to be problematic in that way. Have tried denoising the clip on the very first node? Raw footage can be noisy by nature and by the way you described it, that could be the reason
It's not about noise. More about the fact that you can't pick one and only hue color.
@@AxiA how do you feel about the dynamic range of this camera? Better than the pockets? Same as an Fs7 or AS7III, or even better?
i think to properly get red files to pull correct keys, you'd have to white balance on point the software would process better that way
Needed to update the red plugin
Hotkeys would be great but FYI there are shortcuts to the tools on the touchscreen. You tap the histogram
Hotkeys would Def be ideal
Nice review, sounds like you feel there's better options for the money. I've been on the fence thinking about ordering.
If you care purely about image quality it might still be a great candidate.
Good review, man, but it would be nice to make a video in which we can really see realistic skintons, because the video from the vacation with your wife has more artistic grading and not so realistic skintons. Since I use Blackmagic 4k, I think that the skintones of Blackmagic 4k are much closer to those of ARRI ALEXA than those from the video with KOMODO 6K. I also have a RED SCARLET MX and I am familiar with the IPP2 workflow of the RED cameras and it is really quite time consuming than the grading of the BMPCC 4K camera.
True that. The grading i did was very artistic for sure, I might make another video. And yes BM is so much easier to get it right in just a few steps!
@PRIVATE Yes, all this is true, but we want to understand the range of performance of Komodo skintons in order to know what this camera comes closest to as opportunities to create a certain mood. We do not want to compare it on the principle of "good-bad" compared to, say, ARRI ALEXA, but we want to know in what frame you can work with this camera to create a certain mood. That is why it would be good to see the possibility of creating of "more realistic skin tone"
Hahahaha, I also bought a Tesla for my wife but I am driving it...lol!
if Komodo is that good, does it makes all RED line up obsolete? why would you buy ranger or helium and pay like $30-$40K? it weighs more and doesn't have a global shutter. Can someone explain? Thanks
They simply had to create a cheaper camera to at least come close to compete with black magic that is literally killing the game with the pocket cameras.. after the Mini Mag scandal they had to do something to get some fans back and there came the Komodo
Great hearing your thoughts on it. Still waiting on my Resolve key to get here so I can look at my first two shoots with it lmao. I have just given up on grading it at all in Premier lol
Thanks man!! Yeah, Premiere sucks for grading not using that ever again
@@AxiA Ya, I have been wanting to switch for a while but learning a new program was so daunting lol. I promised myself I would as soon as I got the Komodo so... Any day now I will dive in from square 1 haha
Mr Movies indeed!
Why does the grading look so red and muddy in the blacks ? All Komoto footage.
Does it have timelapse capabilities?
No :/
What is the battery life on the komodo
About 2,5 hrs per battery. BP 975 !
U used manual focus or autofocus in The Rise Of Fall ?
No. I stepped down.
@@AxiA stepdown ?
@@MrBazsi888 I closed down/ stepped down the aperture of the lens to let less light in, and also increase the depth of field
@@AxiA ok thanks. AroundF16 ? Komodo needs ir cut filter too. Have you used it in the shoot?
@@MrBazsi888 don’t remember about IR , but I was about f8 or 9 with an nd
On your point regarding lack of assignable buttons to do false color and other things, RED Customer Support mentioned to me that for them, they consider that functionality is best reserved to be utilized on your monitor. The Osee G7 monitor has a great scene selector that allows you to quickly switch between false color, waveforms, vectorscopes, etc (all with custom layouts). I think that would be a good alternative to physical buttons. I always got them all confused anyways on my Scarlet-W. In terms of grading and the lack of control, I suspect you might be doing something weird. Are you sure you're applying your qualifiers before the LUT? I've never had any issues with grading R3D with predictable and precise control. I noticed your shots on the Rise & Fall video have a strong color cast on it. Maybe that messed with the color qualifiers. It could probably have used a nice color chart to calibrate things as I was surprised you didn't apply any creative LUTs on it :)
I did grade the video a lot. It wasn’t just a neutral grade. Before I graded the video I also watched the guide from RED on how to set up a Da Vinci Project with Komodo footage. I did all the debayer correctly. So I really don’t think I did anything wrong.
@@AxiA Did you drop a message to RED support team to help you resolve this issue? I thought R3D was notorious to be one of the best RAW system on the market, so lack of precision regarding the color qualifications seem weird by itself, doesnt it?
@@nightmusic1974 I haven’t. But I did follow the guidelines from RED on how to set up correctly the project and set up the Debayering options
This camera is for running over or replacing action cams for features and everyone is treating it like a new prosumer camera. For 6k there shouldn't be workarounds. Not when the BMPCC 6K is two thousand.
Agreed. But the entry point to get a RED camera being lowered does appeal to a lot of people.
My current RED camera cost me $20K and has fewer features than Komodo. Features are a poor way to judge the value of an imaging device.
There is a massive interest in independent filmmaking and it will only grow as technology improves and prices come down. Just because there may be something "better" doesn't mean that the smaller/cheaper cams won't be used as "A" cams in all sorts of productions. In fact, it's pretty obvious that they already are.
Lol here is the elitist opinion
The magic turquoise bottle
Yes lol
God gave you great hair!
Thanks lol
Can your hair review the camera next?
LooooL will do !!
This would be amazing lol. Thanks sharing your thoughts on the komodo. Nice to get info from someone who works outside of youtube
How about gen 5 colour science , is it still not good enough ?
Gen 5 is great. Overall Komodo is Better but for the price difference … not sure if it’s worth it
@@AxiA i haven’t used komodo yet n i own two bpmcc 6k n 4k , just wanna know is there any huge difference between bmpcc n komodo ? Concerned about image quality
I guess this sounds strange to Blackmagic and Z CAM owners but $6K is not expensive for a cinema camera.
It's all relative. Some of these companies charge over $100K for one, and then say it's because the market is small and they need to recoup their R&D costs. But the market is small because the camera costs $100K, lol. Even RED was extremely disruptive when their first camera came out because it was priced so far under the then-current offerings from other companies. BM has shown you can make a completely capable camera for not much more than $1K. And yeah, the form factor sucks, but they could easily change that. There is no reason any of these cameras need to cost $10K+ other than people pay it and they make a ton of money doing so.
please make a komodo vs bmpcc comp ....!!
YOUR HAIR LOOK FUNNY! SO FUNNY
Lol , glad my videos are entertaining 😅
C70 looks a little more promising than this. Things are getting exciting :-)
Fx6 is coming in a week
How the HELL your monitor is not wired to the Komodo ?!
Lol because it was just for B ROLL purposes ... light was going down and I needed some Broll for the review 😅😅
Everyone saying how this is better than the bmpcc4k, of course it should be! It costs like 4.5x more lmfao. They aren't in the same category
What is better though... have to define better.
spaghetti king
Lol , the accent is real
I hope that Alexa does the same and allows us a camera smaller than the Mini at the Komodo level.
That would be dope. But the arri prices are always way too far from possibilities unfortunately 😫😫😫
@@AxiA So true. Maybe an Alexa similar in size and performance to Komodo and priced at 10K ...?
@@kryptonkiller I don’t think so 😅 more like 30/40k like their cameras usually cost
7 grand??? nahhh....instead buy Z cam E2-S6/ BMPCC 6K + 5 grand worth glass.
That’s of course a valuable strategy as well!
Maybe you just buy a Komodo instead a dragon. Then you have a Komodo + 12k worth glass 😂 Only a question of perspective depending on what you want and what's your market.
Lol funny
@@SczMotionDesign and instead of spending 2.5K USD on a rebranded cheap 960GB SSD(RED MINI MAG) you can buy a used camry.
Are you from some post Soviet Union county?
I’m from Italy! Living in Los Angeles
@@AxiA ))) I was just trying to guess based on your accent. I was wrong, 🤔
@@semmussaev ahah no worries !
Custom buttons wouldn't be an issue for most... Because most monitors have false colors and zebra
Yeah true, but that means you really need to choose your screen wisely because the camera doesn’t help you in that way. I wanted to warn people from this issue