@Joshua from Bakersfield Where do you donate plasma that pays $75 a pop? I've just been going to the hospital to donate blood and they give me movie tickets lol.
Got my Komodo a month ago. Absolutely in love with it. Ended up spending over 10k because I needed SDI cables, monitors, converters, CFast cards and oh so many mounts, handles and other stuff. You could manage with less, but if you want to rig it out properly, you'll end up spending quite a bit. Coming from the GH5s this is on a whole other level. Loving RED raw, the color science and the dynamic range. Never going back to mirrorless. I'm 100% bringing this on my next trip. EDIT: FORGOT MY FAVORITE FEATURE: THE APP. Never touched a camera app this polished. You can literally do anything.
Ted Borel I'm usually running it on a gimbal so I haven't noticed it that much. Had some nice and straight light poles when flying at high speeds on the Alta 6 the other week though 😊
Despite my almost complete lack of interest in buying any RED camera, this video made me subscribe. Understanding color neutrality was the tipping point. Didn’t know I wanted to know that.
There is so much confusion about color out there. Consumer cameras have more visible color and tonal qualities, but the more professional the camera, the less desirable that is.
I'm very curious to see how Sony's upcoming FX6 is going to turn out. It seems to be targeting a similar audience as the RED Komodo, both being compact cinema workhorses. And as someone who's coming from the Sony ecosystem as a photographer, not having to worry about getting new lenses is always a plus. The biggest upside for me though is the sheer convenience that the Sony FS/FX cameras bring to the table. No need to rig them out to get them to suit my needs, they've got everything in a nicely designed body that don't require any bells and whistles. Here's to hoping that the FX6 has a spec sheet similar to the A7SIII!
I’m expecting the FX6 to be similar to the A7SIII but with the addition of a workhorse body with their amazing E-VND, XLR audio inputs. More buttons and dials on the side that made the FS5 so nice to operate. Even better/infinite record times and maybe the Slomo Buffer recording function at high framerates.
@@bananasandbass I would imagine that it is safe to say the FS6 won't have any of the advanced slow motion features of the A7S III. I'll be amazed if they put 4k 120 in a pro body for that price.
4:56 "Global shutter... Same as how it worked in the film days." _Me remembering my dad's old VHS camcorder that has a CCD. Every CCD camera that I owned after moving away from film._ Why'd you ignore CCD tech? ಥ‿ಥ
Great video. Something that has really bothered my about the RED Komodo is that in all the footage I've seen, it has this weird color registration issue. If you've ever done CMYK color printing, and one of the color plates is slightly off registration, that is how the Komodo footage looks. I don't know if this is something with the sensor or the method of wavelet compression, but I don't like it. I think the Sony A7SIII can give Red Monstro like footage with amazing autofocus and there are a ton of Zeiss auto focus lenses available. Don't let yourself be suckered into the RED cult. On lower end productions, a Sony A7SIII, Panasonic S5 or Pocket 6K are great options, and for higher end, then rent an Alexa Mini. RED just doesn't have the demand on high end that it used to. I know two RED owners that sold their cameras for Alexa Minis because that's what clients want.
I am glad you did mention Blackmagic a bit, but I think they are a much bigger part of the conversation. The Ursa Mini Pro G2 is about the same price, and has a lot of advantages, save form factor and overall resolution (which doesn't bother me much). I would take Internal ND vs 6K and day of the week. Slow motion is important to me, and the Komodo is way behind BM.
The Ursa Mini is also the size of a Range Rover and about as reliable as one. I adore Blackmagic, but it's a shame that they didn't advance the original BMCC bodies with modern sensors. They just seem confused as to what they want to be these days.
Film cameras do have a rolling shutter, that's where the term rolling shutter comes from. It used to be a spinning mechanical disk. It would be impossible to expose every part of a film frame at once because no mechanical shutter could ever move faster than the speed of light.
No, you're confusing things. A rotary shutter on a film camera and a rolling shutter (digital image being scanned line by line horizontally) are two different things. In a rotary shutter, the full film frame can be completely exposed but a digital rolling shutter cannot capture all lines at the same time, that's why flashes get cut off on digital and why there's jello effect. The different angles of the rotary shutter either leaves the film frame to be exposed fully, and at a long exposure per second with more motion blir or a shorter partial exposure, resulting in less motion blur.
@@mariush Maybe read before replying. The comment you replied to was talking history of the term, not denying current usage of the term. And they are correct that no mechanical shutter can expose the whole frame at the same exact time. A mechanical shutter can be way faster than current electronic shutters, but not as fast as the speed of light as the comment above states. At no point does that comment suggest that the writer does not understand how an electronic rolling shutter works, so that was a complete waste of time on your part. In fact, the only reason to point out the historical use of the term is if they do understand the current use of the term...
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 I think you hurt his feelings. Because had you not posted this I might think he had a point. LOL. I love it when the smart ass finds someone smarter.
Thanks so much for this! Can you link us to the gear for running the komodo off an external battery? Im running into an issue balancing with my batteries and my SIRUI 24mm.
5:04, no. Film cameras don't have global shutter. While in theory film could be used in conjunction with a global shutter but that is mechanically just not possible (or at least I can't think of any such mechanism), unless you use some very strong electronic polarizer that can block all light at once and let all light in and alternate between them rapidly. The rolling shutter effect isn't that noticable on film cameras because of the fast "readout" of the mechanical rolling shutter in those cameras. Rolling shutter, hence the term "rolling".
@@stalman yeah well the CCD chips use global shutter. It used to be that CCD technology produced much better images in the early days but then the CMOS process became much cheaper, efficient due to the advancements in the semiconductor (computer processors and stuff) making process and thus it became obvious that CMOS was the future. Thus more r&d and soon the CMOS sensors started outperforming the CCD sensors in every way. However, they had one caveat - no global shutter, that is until fairly recently. It's still more expensive to produce those and most people, including me, seem to prefer fast (readout speed) rolling shutter anyway as they look more like film (if I'm not wrong all Arri cameras as well as the other RED cameras use really nice CMOS sensors with rolling shutters.) If you want to experiment with global shutter sensors for cheap, just get any older camera with CCD sensors from around the 2010s. Could be an interesting video too! 😉 P.S. I'm not a history expert and the order of things may not be accurate. Definitely in the same ballpark though.
Of course red raw is great but this camera doesn't seem worth it (including very slight upgrade X version for people who are really into lame slo mo), I will get the full frame Blackmagic despite the bad rolling shutter, I have no idea what is wrong with the luts you for some reason are using here but it looks horrible, lots of artifacts between the colors, might be UA-cam but I don't know. The orange/cyan looks really, really bad. It breaks up in every shot. Also who uses orange/cyan? Michael Bay was cool in 2002.
decide what do you really need? you told about RED as a cinema camera and you telling about image stabilization? serious? how about autofocus in a cinema camera?)))))) if you are tlking about cinema camera there are no ibis or af and all that marketing stuff! and comparing the RED camera to CANON R? serious? compare to even old BMCC with prores or RAW, and there are better image than EOS R))) awful review, a lot of water, but no really information. You can't understand for what purposes this camera (red komodo) made - this should be the main line of the review, because it is much cheaper that any other indy/documentary cinema cameras, but it is more expensive than mirrorless cameras. Is it for the RED brand or is it really worth the money? GLobal Shutter - YES! GREAT! But is the DR, COLOR, ETC can compare to similar cameras from blackmagic, canon (may be C series), sony (F), or panasonic. Or may be chinnese Z-cam or something in touch of cinema cameras. Not the canon eos R - consumer PHOTO CAMERA. Have a good day
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Great video Tyler! The ifootage looks awesome, but I agree that the filmmaker needs to know his/her type of business before getting into the the hype of being a RED user. Regards from Brazil!
OMG. These UA-camrisms, parroted en masse, of gesticulating in front of face swallowing lenses is ghastly and unwatchable. Some people must truly have attention issues to not feel clobbered here. Serious TV preacher vibe. Ciao.
If anyone has to ask this question, then the answer is NO! You will know when and if you should upgrade. You can create some phenomenal footage with Mirrorless cameras. So let the work dictate your moves and not your ego 😊
what cable and battery was powering your komodo? that was such a clever way to loose the weight and portability! You might have been the only one on whole of youtube of to think of this creative simple hack!
Nice video! There are few points you made that I have questions about. How does the global shutter on the Komodo compare to the minimal rolling shutter on the A7S3? Is it significant? When you spoke about the Komodo having a 'neutral look' and you not having to worry about picture profiles, is that a pro or a con? By neutral look, do you mean a proper technical analysis has been done, using say vector scopes, that show this is the case or are you talking about the Komodo shooting raw? As far as I'm aware every camera has a look i.e. a way they interpret colours. It's just how they work. If you're talking about ability to shoot raw, the R5 has this, with limitations off course. The A7S3 has this, through an Atomos ninja V, which you probably need for professional shoots. But the mirrorless cameras also give you the ability to get an image with little to no grading if you wanted, that seems like a pro to me.
This video singlehandedly sold me on the Komodo. I remember watching it a year ago when it came out and being blown away by this review. 12 months later I just got mine and couldn't be happier. Thank you Tyler!
I honestly have not seen any Komodo footage yet that makes me want to buy the camera. I considered it briefly due to the form factor (signed up for the notification list), but 99% of the footage (Joey Helms stuff excluded) I've seen from this cam makes it look very "video". Like a very good documentary camera, but the image (maybe it's just been the colour grading or whatnot) doesn't look "cinema" (yes I'm fully aware it's more about lighting, framing, composing your shots) - hard to describe, it's like overly sharp plasticy - like I would need to use a heap of haze. I know people have been saying they've easily been able to cut footage from komodo with their other red cameras, but I honestly don't see it. The only way people seem to be making the footage look good is by doing slow-mo (with it's limited 40fps or more if WS) pointing it at a sunset through leaves of a tree etc. Again, I don't have the camera, I'm only going on most of the footage I've seen. Bring on the hate.
For that I would choose the Komodo. I would choose the C200 if you do a lot of interviews or maybe a really mobile run and gun doc. But even then, I might favour the red
Tyler Stalman because of overall image quality, codec or something else? From a few test I seen the image quality it’s pretty much on par with C 200 raw. With a C200 you gain awesome auto focus, built-in NDs, no crop at 60p, and is much cheaper. so I’m curious why you would gravitate to the Komodo.
@@stalman When the scarlet was first announced, a couple years after red one, they said it would be a 4k body, screen, lens mount for 4 grand. Then the scarlet came out and it was $12k for the body.
love red color, but only color itself just not enough for $6000 tag. If this was in 2019, maybe komodo is a good option for $6000. but now, just check all these new cameras and their price, Komodo offers way too little for its price. If BMPCC6K is a cube camera or ursamini pro 4.6k G2 can be the same size like red scarlet w or canon c300 that would be perfect( BMD seems always got some really strange taste on their camera size format and name). Zcam e2s6 seems a great great option for its quality and price, but still too new in the market, need some time for all other software support to catch up.
Also, if it is an upgrade then everyone would want to do it. Your video supposedly has answers to the question of whether or not it is an upgrade but then you say it is an upgrade in the title... If it is a good choice for me then it is an upgrade even if it is cheaper... If it is not a good choice for me then it is not an upgrade even if it costs more...
Great video Tyler. Y'all should check out the Z-Cam S6 if R3D codec or a global shutter isn't a must-have for your needs. It's a $2500 cine-camera with a Super 35 sensor, a more pleasant form factor compared to the BMPCC6k, and punches above its weight class. Pair it with the new Dzofilm Pictor zooms and you're set.
this is interesting but who is it for really? It still massively glosses over the true cost difference between these types of systems. It's really many of thousands of dollars which small scale users just don't have lying around. idk I guess it could work, but especially now during this pandemic, how tf would someone pay for an upgrade like this? (including support, storage and computer, cases, batteries, etc.) All the red stuff is proprietary so there are no workarounds using any cheaper accessories. I've made my video business work just fine using really crappy knock off batteries, monitors, and sometimes even cheaper storage when there's redundancy. This can't be done with Red. (because my clients are all low budge; non-profits, real people, tiny biz)
I heard that there is a monitor that can control komodo wirelessly. It seems to be specially made for komodo. Does anyone know? Its brand seems to be called PORTKEYS, and its model seems to be BM5 WR. If you have used it, please tell me, how does it feel to use it with komodo? I want to buy one and try it recently, thank you!
the 2 big draw backs to me with the red komodo, it can event hit 50/60fps in 6k its already a crossed sensor I doesn't like the idea of cropping more just to compensate for that. How red sees blues in low light
2:56 (top right dark spot) is a great example of how sensor stabilization can cause issues (moving vignettes) when your lens image circle is barely big enough to cover your sensor. This is also the reason cinema cameras don’t have sensor stabilization. Great video! Just thought that clip was a perfect example of why stabilized sensors aren’t desirable in the world of cinema. ☺️ Edit; either that, or it’s the polarizer shifting slightly. 😅
Finally someone that knows how to properly expose the red. 😂 Been watching many other reviews on the Komodo and their exposer and coloring (to me) doesn’t do the red justice. So thank you!
Thanks! Actually it was all a bit underexposed because the only ND we had was way too thick, so it took some extra grading. It’s pretty noisy but UA-cam compression hides it
Tyler Stalman this is the reason ppl love the Red... dynamic range of bringing it back or able to make the look you want. Everyone always says, “I can make my BM look like that”. Or whatever camera they own. Red has its place. We love our Helium and we love our BM. We use what camera is best for the job. Been watching you for the last few months and love your content. Thank you for what you’re doing!!
Why is there so much chromatic aberration in many of the shots? I don't remember the Sigma being so bad. Is this the way Komodo is processing the images. Look at here ua-cam.com/video/DNEoSSjc2Lk/v-deo.html
Jarred (president of RED) has confirmed the framerates will NOT change on this camera. Do not buy the Komodo with the hopes that the framerates will be changed to a higher limit in the future. It will not happen.
Only experienxe i have in shooting and editiong film is when i use Dji flys auto templates from my random useless mavic mini clips. im not even at a vloggers level. Just one of those weird still shooters. What I’m trying to say here is yes..yes i need this camera in my life
Nice video good info! All bmpcc4k/6k user's keep your head Up! We are good. Didn't need the Black magic bashing dou! just saying Cameras are tools nothing else! Have a nice day.
useful and not biased, at least no SO biased review, congrats. Did you test noise levels? I am really interested in play a bit with some straight-out-of-camera clips, if possible. Definitely tempted to get Komodo to pair with my modded leicas R.!!
Could please share how you achieved such great and neat colors. From ND filters, to color corrections. I’m only asking because of awesome the footage looks. It’s bother line commercial. Much thanks 🙏🏿
Great video Tyler. I totally agree with your statement at the end regarding going to UA-cam for your answer of which camera you should shoot on. It should depend on your needs and your work. Thanks for sharing your take on this unique camera!
Thanks Griffin! I get too many DMs asking “should I buy x or y” and the real answer is usually “what are using it for and how much money do you have in the bank”?
The most honest guy I’ve met. Bin a Subscriber for a while. Btw I love your music transition towards the end you really do engage with the viewer can’t wait to see you have multiple million subscribers you will be there!
да этот ронин S нихера не стабилизирует, смысл на него снимать? Плечевой упор возьми и снимай, плавней получится... 😂 нет, ну вы видели? Замедлил видео раза в два и там жопа, а не стабилизация)))
Tyler, would you recommend Sony Alpha a7S III or the red Komodo? I’m worried red Komodo might had a lot bugs when they officially launch it.... like Tesla.
@@stalman BUt it is handy to know if one will need to buy a bunch of bits to balance or maybe the cam cant be set at all on a smaller gimbal.. or maybe if one is to hoping appreciate the global shutter or if the AF bounces and jitters one needs a stable core shot to see that stuff.
I'm sure that Red can see the future of cine cameras lies in the more compact... Large cine camera and non autofocus lenses will slowly fade away.. A bit like stills photography, which is contracting too.. I used to use 10x8 Sinar's back int he day.....Where are they now ?
Damn best footage from this camera ive seen 🤗. Btw, I use x2 BMPCC 6K's for work and omg this RED footage looks so cinematic. I've used RED cameras a few times (and C300 mkii & others) but I've mostly used Blackmagic for the past several years.
@@pkonttinen price, and menu layouts are best by far. Most hated aspect is ergonomics which is a bitch to mount on gimbals/gyro because of weight imbalance with lens mount not being centered. The internal batteries are pointless and not feasible since they only last
May I ask what lens you are using for the shots of you (maybe in a courtyard?) that produced the slightly blurry edges? ... I rather enjoyed that look.
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Me: red Komodo is cool
Tyler: red Komodo comes in at about 9k
Me: I don’t think the red is for me
@Joshua from Bakersfield How often do you donate plasma?
@Joshua from Bakersfield Wow I don't even know you can get this much by donating plasma! Are there any side effects?
@Joshua from Bakersfield Where do you donate plasma that pays $75 a pop? I've just been going to the hospital to donate blood and they give me movie tickets lol.
@Joshua from Bakersfield Yeah, I'll check 'em out. Kinda sucks having to walk around with a bruised arm full of holes all the time though, no?
Depends on what do you expect. It’s definitely worth $6k compare to what competitors have. It’s always good to think of benefits you can get out of it
Got my Komodo a month ago. Absolutely in love with it. Ended up spending over 10k because I needed SDI cables, monitors, converters, CFast cards and oh so many mounts, handles and other stuff. You could manage with less, but if you want to rig it out properly, you'll end up spending quite a bit.
Coming from the GH5s this is on a whole other level. Loving RED raw, the color science and the dynamic range. Never going back to mirrorless. I'm 100% bringing this on my next trip.
EDIT: FORGOT MY FAVORITE FEATURE: THE APP. Never touched a camera app this polished. You can literally do anything.
I’m with you on the remote app, that will be such a game changer on set
How amazing is that global shutter?
Ted Borel I'm usually running it on a gimbal so I haven't noticed it that much. Had some nice and straight light poles when flying at high speeds on the Alta 6 the other week though 😊
Since you have the Komodo maybe you can help, does it do raw internally to the CFast card or do you have to hook up an external recorder to it?
@@alexsystems2001 internally
Ania can literally do any scene so well! You guys are a great team!
She steals the show anywhere she shows up, she’s the best 👸🏻
Really dig the windmill shots! 👌👌 Shows the skin tone reproduction and DR nicely! Down for a remote-collab? 🤙
For sure, I've been loving all your Komodo coverage lately!
@@stalman Sweet! I will DM on Instagram.
Despite my almost complete lack of interest in buying any RED camera, this video made me subscribe. Understanding color neutrality was the tipping point. Didn’t know I wanted to know that.
There is so much confusion about color out there. Consumer cameras have more visible color and tonal qualities, but the more professional the camera, the less desirable that is.
I'm very curious to see how Sony's upcoming FX6 is going to turn out. It seems to be targeting a similar audience as the RED Komodo, both being compact cinema workhorses. And as someone who's coming from the Sony ecosystem as a photographer, not having to worry about getting new lenses is always a plus.
The biggest upside for me though is the sheer convenience that the Sony FS/FX cameras bring to the table. No need to rig them out to get them to suit my needs, they've got everything in a nicely designed body that don't require any bells and whistles.
Here's to hoping that the FX6 has a spec sheet similar to the A7SIII!
For sure, the FX6 and the Canon C70 will be extremely interesting! Its a tough time to choose a camera
I’m expecting the FX6 to be similar to the A7SIII but with the addition of a workhorse body with their amazing E-VND, XLR audio inputs. More buttons and dials on the side that made the FS5 so nice to operate. Even better/infinite record times and maybe the Slomo Buffer recording function at high framerates.
@@bananasandbass I would imagine that it is safe to say the FS6 won't have any of the advanced slow motion features of the A7S III. I'll be amazed if they put 4k 120 in a pro body for that price.
Easy choice if it's priced competitively and has 10 bit 422. Built in NDs, XLR and a nicer form factor. No-brainer.
I'm from the future and the FX6 is amazing. It's so amazing it's a Netflix approved camera.
4:56
"Global shutter... Same as how it worked in the film days."
_Me remembering my dad's old VHS camcorder that has a CCD. Every CCD camera that I owned after moving away from film._
Why'd you ignore CCD tech? ಥ‿ಥ
Another great video. Yes is actually Blackmagic and RED for me. Blackmagic is an amazing cinema camera. We shot car commercials with it.
I would really like to spend time shooting with Blackmagic, especially their new RBG sensor
These days I have been playing with a Sony a6300. It’s amazing at 4K, can only imagine what newer cameras bring to the table.
Same haha
lol im on a7s 2 I want the Komodo
Thats what i used to use man. it lowkey still holds up if you have proper lighing and a great lens and great eye/skill.
I personally went from having a Sony a6300 to A7iii and soon the Komodo. I’d say that the diminishing returns as you go up is definitely accurate.
Tyler, man... You just made me spend 6K...
Where did you buy a komodo? lol
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Considering the production just went on sale for $6k, i call BS on that (unless it was intended as a flattering joke comment)
@@baddogentertainment6960 Do I need to put a laughing emoji or wave my arms when I tell a joke? 😂
Great video. Something that has really bothered my about the RED Komodo is that in all the footage I've seen, it has this weird color registration issue. If you've ever done CMYK color printing, and one of the color plates is slightly off registration, that is how the Komodo footage looks. I don't know if this is something with the sensor or the method of wavelet compression, but I don't like it. I think the Sony A7SIII can give Red Monstro like footage with amazing autofocus and there are a ton of Zeiss auto focus lenses available. Don't let yourself be suckered into the RED cult. On lower end productions, a Sony A7SIII, Panasonic S5 or Pocket 6K are great options, and for higher end, then rent an Alexa Mini. RED just doesn't have the demand on high end that it used to. I know two RED owners that sold their cameras for Alexa Minis because that's what clients want.
I would much rather a Mini but the price gap is pretty substantial, and the smaller size of the Komodo is a big part of it
Hi Tyler, are you planning on making an A7sIII video? I'm mean, I'm getting it regardless but I'd love to see your video about it 🥰
Wife is phenomenal my man doesn’t miss!
He’s Effin Good , that dude doesn’t miss.
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Ugly face nice body
AD T you serious? The fuck is wrong with you internet people
I am glad you did mention Blackmagic a bit, but I think they are a much bigger part of the conversation. The Ursa Mini Pro G2 is about the same price, and has a lot of advantages, save form factor and overall resolution (which doesn't bother me much). I would take Internal ND vs 6K and day of the week. Slow motion is important to me, and the Komodo is way behind BM.
The Ursa Mini is also the size of a Range Rover and about as reliable as one. I adore Blackmagic, but it's a shame that they didn't advance the original BMCC bodies with modern sensors. They just seem confused as to what they want to be these days.
Film cameras do have a rolling shutter, that's where the term rolling shutter comes from. It used to be a spinning mechanical disk. It would be impossible to expose every part of a film frame at once because no mechanical shutter could ever move faster than the speed of light.
No, you're confusing things. A rotary shutter on a film camera and a rolling shutter (digital image being scanned line by line horizontally) are two different things. In a rotary shutter, the full film frame can be completely exposed but a digital rolling shutter cannot capture all lines at the same time, that's why flashes get cut off on digital and why there's jello effect.
The different angles of the rotary shutter either leaves the film frame to be exposed fully, and at a long exposure per second with more motion blir or a shorter partial exposure, resulting in less motion blur.
@@mariush Maybe read before replying. The comment you replied to was talking history of the term, not denying current usage of the term. And they are correct that no mechanical shutter can expose the whole frame at the same exact time. A mechanical shutter can be way faster than current electronic shutters, but not as fast as the speed of light as the comment above states. At no point does that comment suggest that the writer does not understand how an electronic rolling shutter works, so that was a complete waste of time on your part. In fact, the only reason to point out the historical use of the term is if they do understand the current use of the term...
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 I think you hurt his feelings. Because had you not posted this I might think he had a point. LOL. I love it when the smart ass finds someone smarter.
@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Perhaps mariush assumed that they “do understand” the current use of the term with a “not” added in between...
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 nothing is faster than speed of light. Saying something that can compete with it kind of makes no sense
Dude, the footage is like a movie..
So you can make a good quality indie movie using red komodo?
Thanks so much for this! Can you link us to the gear for running the komodo off an external battery? Im running into an issue balancing with my batteries and my SIRUI 24mm.
that $8900 isnt the correct amount because you didnt add the lens
Can we just applaud Red for making a camera that shoots 6K with autofocus and the Red color science as well as a built in LCD screen for $6k???..
6:26 - 6:29 The way the actress moves her hands makes me think she has a background in ballet
come on china... make a $500 red camera
5:04, no. Film cameras don't have global shutter. While in theory film could be used in conjunction with a global shutter but that is mechanically just not possible (or at least I can't think of any such mechanism), unless you use some very strong electronic polarizer that can block all light at once and let all light in and alternate between them rapidly.
The rolling shutter effect isn't that noticable on film cameras because of the fast "readout" of the mechanical rolling shutter in those cameras. Rolling shutter, hence the term "rolling".
Yes I realized I mistake afterwards. I’d like to know more about the history of global shutters, they been a white whale for so long
@@stalman yeah well the CCD chips use global shutter. It used to be that CCD technology produced much better images in the early days but then the CMOS process became much cheaper, efficient due to the advancements in the semiconductor (computer processors and stuff) making process and thus it became obvious that CMOS was the future. Thus more r&d and soon the CMOS sensors started outperforming the CCD sensors in every way. However, they had one caveat - no global shutter, that is until fairly recently. It's still more expensive to produce those and most people, including me, seem to prefer fast (readout speed) rolling shutter anyway as they look more like film (if I'm not wrong all Arri cameras as well as the other RED cameras use really nice CMOS sensors with rolling shutters.)
If you want to experiment with global shutter sensors for cheap, just get any older camera with CCD sensors from around the 2010s. Could be an interesting video too! 😉
P.S. I'm not a history expert and the order of things may not be accurate. Definitely in the same ballpark though.
Of course red raw is great but this camera doesn't seem worth it (including very slight upgrade X version for people who are really into lame slo mo), I will get the full frame Blackmagic despite the bad rolling shutter, I have no idea what is wrong with the luts you for some reason are using here but it looks horrible, lots of artifacts between the colors, might be UA-cam but I don't know. The orange/cyan looks really, really bad. It breaks up in every shot. Also who uses orange/cyan? Michael Bay was cool in 2002.
Should you upgrade from Mirrorless to Red Komodo.
Me- even Red doesn't have Mirror, technically cinema cameras are also Mirrorless.
ALL cameras you have to learn to use before using them, that's how you get the most out of a camera.
Love the red eco system I hate the red company how they over priced and they try squeeze every dollar off you
decide what do you really need? you told about RED as a cinema camera and you telling about image stabilization? serious? how about autofocus in a cinema camera?)))))) if you are tlking about cinema camera there are no ibis or af and all that marketing stuff! and comparing the RED camera to CANON R? serious? compare to even old BMCC with prores or RAW, and there are better image than EOS R))) awful review, a lot of water, but no really information. You can't understand for what purposes this camera (red komodo) made - this should be the main line of the review, because it is much cheaper that any other indy/documentary cinema cameras, but it is more expensive than mirrorless cameras. Is it for the RED brand or is it really worth the money? GLobal Shutter - YES! GREAT! But is the DR, COLOR, ETC can compare to similar cameras from blackmagic, canon (may be C series), sony (F), or panasonic. Or may be chinnese Z-cam or something in touch of cinema cameras. Not the canon eos R - consumer PHOTO CAMERA. Have a good day
Great video Tyler! The ifootage looks awesome, but I agree that the filmmaker needs to know his/her type of business before getting into the the hype of being a RED user. Regards from Brazil!
OMG. These UA-camrisms, parroted en masse, of gesticulating in front of face swallowing lenses is ghastly and unwatchable. Some people must truly have attention issues to not feel clobbered here. Serious TV preacher vibe. Ciao.
Dear arri please make this
If anyone has to ask this question, then the answer is NO! You will know when and if you should upgrade. You can create some phenomenal footage with Mirrorless cameras. So let the work dictate your moves and not your ego 😊
what cable and battery was powering your komodo? that was such a clever way to loose the weight and portability! You might have been the only one on whole of youtube of to think of this creative simple hack!
Was the gimbal not enough to create a smooth enough shot? im watching the video with no audio cus im at work...
omg that girl looks so beauutiful.
Could you share the komodo colour grading workflow? Is it difficult to expose correctly?
Nice video! There are few points you made that I have questions about. How does the global shutter on the Komodo compare to the minimal rolling shutter on the A7S3? Is it significant?
When you spoke about the Komodo having a 'neutral look' and you not having to worry about picture profiles, is that a pro or a con? By neutral look, do you mean a proper technical analysis has been done, using say vector scopes, that show this is the case or are you talking about the Komodo shooting raw?
As far as I'm aware every camera has a look i.e. a way they interpret colours. It's just how they work. If you're talking about ability to shoot raw, the R5 has this, with limitations off course. The A7S3 has this, through an Atomos ninja V, which you probably need for professional shoots. But the mirrorless cameras also give you the ability to get an image with little to no grading if you wanted, that seems like a pro to me.
Great looking image, but I’m also loving the look of my S1H....
yeah a7s 3 , s1h, Komodo are the cameras to be on right now. all really good and very different feel
This video singlehandedly sold me on the Komodo. I remember watching it a year ago when it came out and being blown away by this review. 12 months later I just got mine and couldn't be happier. Thank you Tyler!
slow motion looks ok, but otherwise, just like Hollywood, all the movies look like video tape. or high end video camera a use by tv stations.
I honestly have not seen any Komodo footage yet that makes me want to buy the camera. I considered it briefly due to the form factor (signed up for the notification list), but 99% of the footage (Joey Helms stuff excluded) I've seen from this cam makes it look very "video". Like a very good documentary camera, but the image (maybe it's just been the colour grading or whatnot) doesn't look "cinema" (yes I'm fully aware it's more about lighting, framing, composing your shots) - hard to describe, it's like overly sharp plasticy - like I would need to use a heap of haze. I know people have been saying they've easily been able to cut footage from komodo with their other red cameras, but I honestly don't see it. The only way people seem to be making the footage look good is by doing slow-mo (with it's limited 40fps or more if WS) pointing it at a sunset through leaves of a tree etc. Again, I don't have the camera, I'm only going on most of the footage I've seen. Bring on the hate.
ok but what option would you get instead?
You have a run and gun (no assistant)b-roll outdoor job(no audio) for web delivery. You need to pick one camera off the shelf. C200 (RAW) or Komodo ?
For that I would choose the Komodo. I would choose the C200 if you do a lot of interviews or maybe a really mobile run and gun doc.
But even then, I might favour the red
Tyler Stalman because of overall image quality, codec or something else?
From a few test I seen the image quality it’s pretty much on par with C 200 raw.
With a C200 you gain awesome auto focus, built-in NDs, no crop at 60p, and is much cheaper. so I’m curious why you would gravitate to the Komodo.
This is like their original red scarlet plan that fell by the waste side
How so?
@@stalman When the scarlet was first announced, a couple years after red one, they said it would be a 4k body, screen, lens mount for 4 grand. Then the scarlet came out and it was $12k for the body.
love red color, but only color itself just not enough for $6000 tag. If this was in 2019, maybe komodo is a good option for $6000. but now, just check all these new cameras and their price, Komodo offers way too little for its price. If BMPCC6K is a cube camera or ursamini pro 4.6k G2 can be the same size like red scarlet w or canon c300 that would be perfect( BMD seems always got some really strange taste on their camera size format and name). Zcam e2s6 seems a great great option for its quality and price, but still too new in the market, need some time for all other software support to catch up.
your audio sounds so good, do you use shotgun mic in the video?
Thanks! It's the new Duo D4 from Deity
Red Komodo is a mirrorless camera... WTF is up with that title?
Whats a word short enough for a title that you would use to distinguish it from the more consumer focused mirrorless cameras from Sony and Canon?
@@stalman Still or hybrid? Mirrorless does not distinguish them at all is my point... Also you could write a wholly different sentence...
Also, if it is an upgrade then everyone would want to do it. Your video supposedly has answers to the question of whether or not it is an upgrade but then you say it is an upgrade in the title... If it is a good choice for me then it is an upgrade even if it is cheaper... If it is not a good choice for me then it is not an upgrade even if it costs more...
Tyler, what cable/system did you need to connect Raveneye to Komodo?
Great video Tyler. Y'all should check out the Z-Cam S6 if R3D codec or a global shutter isn't a must-have for your needs. It's a $2500 cine-camera with a Super 35 sensor, a more pleasant form factor compared to the BMPCC6k, and punches above its weight class. Pair it with the new Dzofilm Pictor zooms and you're set.
I’m very interested in it and would to try it, but I’m not sure I trust it for client work yet
Watching this video because I just color calibrated my monitor and I know your video's are amazingly color graded! Also dang that footage looks clean!
I think you’ll see better colors in the other red video, this one was a struggle to grade
What is this Komodo and why is literally everyone on the earth promoting it.....
this is interesting but who is it for really? It still massively glosses over the true cost difference between these types of systems. It's really many of thousands of dollars which small scale users just don't have lying around. idk I guess it could work, but especially now during this pandemic, how tf would someone pay for an upgrade like this? (including support, storage and computer, cases, batteries, etc.) All the red stuff is proprietary so there are no workarounds using any cheaper accessories. I've made my video business work just fine using really crappy knock off batteries, monitors, and sometimes even cheaper storage when there's redundancy. This can't be done with Red. (because my clients are all low budge; non-profits, real people, tiny biz)
I heard that there is a monitor that can control komodo wirelessly. It seems to be specially made for komodo. Does anyone know?
Its brand seems to be called PORTKEYS, and its model seems to be BM5 WR. If you have used it, please tell me, how does it feel to use it with komodo?
I want to buy one and try it recently, thank you!
2020 is just the year of video cameras...so many great choices!
A dream for every video maker. Thanks for that video!
the 2 big draw backs to me with the red komodo, it can event hit 50/60fps in 6k its already a crossed sensor I doesn't like the idea of cropping more just to compensate for that.
How red sees blues in low light
Colorgrade in this film is perfect! Thumbs up!
Hi
Thank you to this tutorial
I would like to ask what did you mean by" POLAR Pro VND"?
Could you post the link of this item?
Thanks
2:56 (top right dark spot) is a great example of how sensor stabilization can cause issues (moving vignettes) when your lens image circle is barely big enough to cover your sensor. This is also the reason cinema cameras don’t have sensor stabilization.
Great video! Just thought that clip was a perfect example of why stabilized sensors aren’t desirable in the world of cinema. ☺️
Edit; either that, or it’s the polarizer shifting slightly. 😅
I know what you mean but in that case it's just lens vignette. This was on the older 16-35mm and it suffers from a lot wide open
I love how people talks about cinema cameras and then put a photo lens on it :D
Camera is the least important thing if you want cinematic image :)
Finally someone that knows how to properly expose the red. 😂 Been watching many other reviews on the Komodo and their exposer and coloring (to me) doesn’t do the red justice. So thank you!
Thanks! Actually it was all a bit underexposed because the only ND we had was way too thick, so it took some extra grading. It’s pretty noisy but UA-cam compression hides it
Tyler Stalman this is the reason ppl love the Red... dynamic range of bringing it back or able to make the look you want. Everyone always says, “I can make my BM look like that”. Or whatever camera they own. Red has its place. We love our Helium and we love our BM. We use what camera is best for the job. Been watching you for the last few months and love your content. Thank you for what you’re doing!!
global shutter is not like in the film days as you say. You still have a rotating shutter, and you can get some form of wobble in certain situations.
Why is there so much chromatic aberration in many of the shots? I don't remember the Sigma being so bad. Is this the way Komodo is processing the images. Look at here ua-cam.com/video/DNEoSSjc2Lk/v-deo.html
Yes. If you’re a videographer you should probably use a video camera not a mirrorless.
Jarred (president of RED) has confirmed the framerates will NOT change on this camera. Do not buy the Komodo with the hopes that the framerates will be changed to a higher limit in the future. It will not happen.
Only experienxe i have in shooting and editiong film is when i use Dji flys auto templates from my random useless mavic mini clips. im not even at a vloggers level. Just one of those weird still shooters. What I’m trying to say here is yes..yes i need this camera in my life
Zcam e2 f6
Nice video good info!
All bmpcc4k/6k user's keep your head Up! We are good. Didn't need the Black magic bashing dou! just saying
Cameras are tools nothing else! Have a nice day.
I hope that Alexa does the same and allows us a camera smaller than the Mini at the Komodo level.
useful and not biased, at least no SO biased review, congrats. Did you test noise levels? I am really interested in play a bit with some straight-out-of-camera clips, if possible. Definitely tempted to get Komodo to pair with my modded leicas R.!!
Could please share how you achieved such great and neat colors. From ND filters, to color corrections. I’m only asking because of awesome the footage looks. It’s bother line commercial. Much thanks 🙏🏿
mute it and watch the ginger rapping 🤣😂🤣😂
RED Komodo Stormtrooper owner . and yes I like it. sold my Canon R5 for it.. and for photo I use the canon 5d MKIV
But ... would you trade your c200 kit for a Red Komodo ? The Red Komodo is so interesting. Thanks for the video.
Whats your business? Are you needing requirements to sell movies / shows. Certain distros require certain specs.
0:38 q u a l i t y
Great video Tyler. I totally agree with your statement at the end regarding going to UA-cam for your answer of which camera you should shoot on. It should depend on your needs and your work. Thanks for sharing your take on this unique camera!
Thanks Griffin! I get too many DMs asking “should I buy x or y” and the real answer is usually “what are using it for and how much money do you have in the bank”?
i don understand, its supuse that red komodo use reguar batteries and regulas media, dont need the RED ones like other red cameras
what lens did you use here? i liked the bokeh
happy holidays ! appreciate this video. made me think if red komodo is. righ fit for my gigs and projects. thanks again!
Should you upgrade from mirrorless? I don't think this is an upgrade from a mirrorless. Especially the A7Siii
Tyler, I loved your footage, but I figured you'd be shooting handheld because it was really wobbly. Why was the gimbal footage so shaky?
Yeah I don’t really know what happened, we were having gimbal issues all day and should have just gone handheld
This camera or Sony a7sIII?
I know! I think a7s iii is a hell of a deal n it’s cheaper but then again red for this price not bad
The most honest guy I’ve met. Bin a Subscriber for a while. Btw I love your music transition towards the end you really do engage with the viewer can’t wait to see you have multiple million subscribers you will be there!
Hmmm 10k or 5k 🤔😅
да этот ронин S нихера не стабилизирует, смысл на него снимать? Плечевой упор возьми и снимай, плавней получится... 😂 нет, ну вы видели? Замедлил видео раза в два и там жопа, а не стабилизация)))
Really curious what a head to head of this Red Komono vs Sony A7Slll would look like. I wonder if anyone could really tell the difference?
I would love to see that too
Dude, do some lenses that are a bit off the beaten path. Like the old Olympus OM Zuikos, those things were dope!
Why is there some chromatic aberration ( Purple/green lines) around the subjects? 2:50
My Answer : Should
Tyler, would you recommend Sony Alpha a7S III or the red Komodo? I’m worried red Komodo might had a lot bugs when they officially launch it.... like Tesla.
Using the beta version we actually didn't run into any bugs at all. There is a currently some weird issues with FCP on MacBooks but that was all.
Love the colours of your vlog man. Preach 🙌🏽
Why go out on without the gimbal balanced ? is this what I get if I employ you?
😂 nope, that’s why it’s a video about our first day with the camera, not a show reel of camera operation
@@stalman BUt it is handy to know if one will need to buy a bunch of bits to balance or maybe the cam cant be set at all on a smaller gimbal.. or maybe if one is to hoping appreciate the global shutter or if the AF bounces and jitters one needs a stable core shot to see that stuff.
Would you say that there should be some subjectivity to sensor performance? Arri sensors tend to flatter skin tones and are an industry favorite.
I'm sure that Red can see the future of cine cameras lies in the more compact... Large cine camera and non autofocus lenses will slowly fade away.. A bit like stills photography, which is contracting too.. I used to use 10x8 Sinar's back int he day.....Where are they now ?
It's been really interesting hearing Roger Deakins thoughts on this, he says the same thing. Can't imagine going back to the larger formats.
Damn best footage from this camera ive seen 🤗. Btw, I use x2 BMPCC 6K's for work and omg this RED footage looks so cinematic. I've used RED cameras a few times (and C300 mkii & others) but I've mostly used Blackmagic for the past several years.
Should I get a pocket 6pro. C70. Or Komodo for a run and gun, long form shooting, one man band !?
@@pkonttinen I'm a producer at a large university. I'll probably get a 6k Pro for freelance stuff 😎
@@GorilieVR what’s your reasoning when compared to the others
@@pkonttinen price, and menu layouts are best by far. Most hated aspect is ergonomics which is a bitch to mount on gimbals/gyro because of weight imbalance with lens mount not being centered. The internal batteries are pointless and not feasible since they only last
@@GorilieVR this makes the pocket pro sound worse than the Komodo. Or c70?!
Using a variabel ND has nothing to do with cinematic footage, its a no go (i learned) because it has a polarizing effect
Which Lens are you using for blogging? I like that wide angle. Nice review, thank you!
I was heavily considering the komodo but With the EOS C70 announcement im gonna give this a miss
May I ask what lens you are using for the shots of you (maybe in a courtyard?) that produced the slightly blurry edges? ... I rather enjoyed that look.
I feel like the crop that comes with slow motion is as a result of the camera having global shutter.
What colors method did you use? do you have Luts for sell ?