@@indymogul deal. It’s the one camera missing from my “display shelves of camera history” starting with my first ever camera! It was my first 4K Dslr after all!
Indy Mogul inspired me 14-15 years ago when I was just a kid. The original host was hosting, and they were doing prop videos at the time, and I loved it before I even knew I would end up with filmmaking. Can’t say I’ve been following you all along, but I’m always happy to stumble upon you guys and find out you’re still making videos. I’m a little confused about the fact that you haven’t posted a video in over a year, though.
Every now and then because I’m researching some gear I just bought, or something, an Indy Mogul, vid will pop up in my recommendations, and I’ll go, “Oh yeah I remember those guys, let’s see what they’re up to”, and take a trip down memory lane.
Indy Mogul inspired me 14-15 years ago when I was just a child. The original host was hosting (Eric Beck), and they were doing prop videos at the time, and I loved it before I even knew I would (or anyone could) end up with filmmaking. Can’t say I’ve been following them all along, but I’m always happy to stumble upon them and find out they’re still making videos. I’m a little confused about the fact that they haven’t posted a video in over a year, though.
This channel has died and come back to life several times now. Three years seems about right for this channel to surprise us all with a new host and new upload.
wow coming back after all these year's looking to see what new budget builds and such they are making to come back and see them talking about 6000$ cameras man time's have changed
Dude I have to say that I've watched a ton of videos like this and your videos are the only ones that don't put me to sleep. Thanks for keeping it fun and high energy. I don't get how these other so called "film makers" don't understand how to keep their audience engaged. You really take it to the next level so from my eyeballs to yours, thanks.
Would love to see the Z Cam F6 added to this comparison! Having it next to the Komodo really shows how great of a camera it is. The F6 is a great low light performer with it's analog gain, has a slightly larger than FF 4:3 sensor, can do 4k120 in ProRes 422, has tons of interchangeable locking mounts, lasts 3-4 hours with a single NP-F970 battery, a color science I prefer to work with, and just a generally lovely IQ imo.
Dang, this channel died TWICE. I miss you guys. This channel taught me not three point, but FOUR point lighting. I dare anyone reading this to find that particular video, i DARE you
My relationship with Indy Mogul is basically like mine with women. They keep leaving then coming back. I miss them and accept them back thinking they’ll stay but they never do.
Great honest review. So many on comment threads seem to care about sensor specs - what about real world usage, convenience, handling, those begin to be important when you get busy with work and don’t have all day to pull shadows in your bedroom. The C70 looks amazing. And I’m still shooting on the original C300 and I still love the images from it !
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I remember the c300...went into showcase atlanta (before they shut down) and checked it out alongside some 50-60k lenses. Was amazing. But more amazing how far we've come....especially for $5500.
Our church is looking to upgrade video gear in the next year and I’ve been floating between the C70 and Komodo, glad to see this review, I’m settling on recommending a set up of C70s
I think that’s the best choice! It’s a true workhorse and works so well with editors and long form shoots but also has the cinematic look. Feel free to reach out at @davemaze and ask me anything.
I keep trying to convince myself to buy a non-Canon camera but their cinema line just works too perfectly for our style of shooting. I think we will add a C70 soon.
Interesting. I have a a7s3 and c200 but I’m selling the c200 to get a red Komodo because I really don’t care for canon colors and feel like it’s holding me back compared to the a7s3.
@@jamietomas1550 We absolutely love our Canon cinema cameras and have been using them exclusively for like 8 years. The C100MKII is the best run and gun camera I've ever used. It has everything you need built in with quick and easy access. We use the C200 for more controlled shoots and it works great for us. Ordering a C70 this week. I'm only loyal to Canon cinema cameras because I can't find other cameras that work better for our purposes. Reds have the best color but not by so much that it eliminates all other cameras. I'm sure you will love your Komodo, it looks like an incredible camera! I wish it had the features we need.
@@OhanaFilms yeah i get that. They are easy to work with and have features that the Komodo doesn’t. The main thing is built in nd but canon Ef with nd solves that. I’d choose the fx6 over c70 but I have become more partial to Sony recently.
It’s so true I think anyway, the word cinematic, it’ll look cinematic, these cameras make cinematic images. Unless they used to make a feature film that’s shown you know at a cinema... it’s not actually cinematic material/footage. It’s just video with a certain amount of dynamic range, and wide colour space. Buying one of these cameras isn’t going to instantly make everything look “cinematic” like a feature film. Bob going to get some milk from walmart... is not cinematic weather it’s filmed on an iPhone or an Alexa... unless Bob is getting milk from Walmart while embroiled in a tense espionage network fighting to stop nuclear war!. So sick of people loading up ooooh cinematic broll 120 slow motion of someone walking through the bloody woods!. Basically don’t buy one of these expecting to make videos that look like a feature film. It’ll probably look like crap go pro footage instead.
Nope cinema cameras just have a special sauce that makes it feel very different from hybrid/iphone/gopro footage. It's no comparison unless you start to get to the expensive hybrids (a7siii, s1h. Not eos r5 or a7iii)
that walking down the sidewalk looked pretty cinematic. the only thing that scares me is long GOP which destroys motion cadence by not giving each frame equal time per fps. i.e. 15 fps the first half second and 9 fps the last half second (in 24 fps)
Dave convinced me to pull the trigger on the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II, and I'm very happy with it...although there are some things I would change if I could. It's surprisingly strong for photo and video, especially for someone like me who just does it as a hobby. I'm certainly not in the cinema camera target market, although I might be interested in tracking down an old, used one at some point. With regard to the C70, I think Canon could make a mint by selling a GOOD electronic viewfinder for this camera. I know you can buy things like the Zacuto Gratical HD, but if Canon sold something that was good but at a lower price point, I think people would snap it up.
I owned the original C300 and put 7,000 hours on that bad boy. That camera made me close to a million bucks, loved it. I didn’t love when Canon dropped the price from 15k to 6-7k over night. That was a bummer.
I am just getting started shooting video more seriously and this was very helpful. I shot with Canon DSLRs for years and was leaning towards the C70 and this comparison helped solidify my decision on what to buy when the time comes. Thank you!
I remember the times when it was a channel for actual new fimmakers on non-existing budget and not a Gear Hub to watch stuff they can't afford to even rent.
Do you notice the Deity 4 Duo favors one side of the stereo over the other? Mine seems to have much louder input from the left and low gain from the right.
I am so confused. Where are they ? And I was brought here from a diy Star Wars tutorial, how come everything most recent is about filming…lol wtf is going on.
I shot a bit on the C70 last week. I found the formfactor a bit clunky. The handgrip doesn't really allow for confortable hip-shooting like the other C-cameras do, and the placement of the DISP button felt weird compared to the C200 where it's on the screen. I'm sure you can get used to this pretty quickly, but those were my initial thoughts.
Always love your stuff Dave, it got me laughing when you so bluntly but sincerely asked us to be your internet friends 😅 You got an IG follow from me. Although seriously, you doing okay out there? Lose a few people in quarantine? Just being awkward and checking in to make sure because I've been there and we gotta watch out for each other.
I heard that there is a monitor that can control KOMODO wirelessly. It seems to be specially made for KOMODO. Does anyone know? Its brand seems to be called PORTKEYS, and its model seems to be BM5 WR. If you have used it, please introduce it. How does it feel to use it with KOMODO? I want to buy one and try it recently, thank you!
I'm old school too Dave. I heard about 'motion cadence' from Ed David in his tests on EODHD 😅😂. But I ahave been following you, still remember your eoshd post telling us you were going to make content many years ago it seems. Then jumped on Kinotika and now jumped on u here 💪💪💪 *EOSHD
So I guess Ted is going to Harvard so he can build Aputure's brand (twitter post). Dave has two kids so I'm sure he's been busy. But he says he wants to get back into tech reviews in 2022 but do it, "his way." Possible move from IndyMogul? Either way, hard to say when we'll see from this channel again.
Such a tough choice. The only advantage the C70 has is you can shoot with it out the box. Toss a lens on and go. Komodo requires a build even if it’s the most minimal you can go. Both great cameras tho
Yeah I remember that time
Blimey you used loads of my footage. Cheeky f*****!!!
@Whatsup Tony. lmao
Hehehe! We gave you credit! You’re The GOAT. Always will be Philip
@@indymogul My lawyers will be in touch. They may settle for your 1DC. 🇬🇧
You can have it! With all those dead pixels 🤣
@@indymogul deal. It’s the one camera missing from my “display shelves of camera history” starting with my first ever camera! It was my first 4K Dslr after all!
Life is empty without new videos from Indy Mogul! 🙁
Man I grew up with these guys, I recently found my old UA-cam account from 2007 and went down a rabbit hole. Idk where they went but I miss them
you don't your just being nostalgic as you found your account you will forget them again...
These guys really just dipped again huh?
just didn't happen for him
Indy Mogul inspired me 14-15 years ago when I was just a kid. The original host was hosting, and they were doing prop videos at the time, and I loved it before I even knew I would end up with filmmaking. Can’t say I’ve been following you all along, but I’m always happy to stumble upon you guys and find out you’re still making videos. I’m a little confused about the fact that you haven’t posted a video in over a year, though.
They stopped 2 years ago and I also was thinking what is going on. do you have any more info?
@@yourhappyuncle6055 same question
Same here, Eric Beck was a G, followed by Zach hosting BYFX.
I think indy mogul might have been sold
It'd be nice if this channel didn't die every couple of years
I miss the old Indy mogul but atleast we have these guys…not anymore
Lol
It's been 10 months as of this writing. I miss Ted.
It’s been dead since they stopped the backyard fx series
Where did these guys go? It's been months and I need Filmmaking tips!
My thoughts exactly!
WHERE IS INDY MOGUL?
Yeah, almost 8 months now... what's going on?
Bro now it’s been longer
almost a year, lets go!
I have the strangest relationship with Indy Mogul. They keep leaving and coming back but I'm always here to accept them with open arms
Bro wild ! I just made a comment asking them to come back with music video “tutorials”
Fr, always loved them since the lightsaber tutorial
Every now and then because I’m researching some gear I just bought, or something, an Indy Mogul, vid will pop up in my recommendations, and I’ll go, “Oh yeah I remember those guys, let’s see what they’re up to”, and take a trip down memory lane.
I'll never leave them cause I trust them to come back. They're in an open UA-cam relationship
Indy Mogul inspired me 14-15 years ago when I was just a child. The original host was hosting (Eric Beck), and they were doing prop videos at the time, and I loved it before I even knew I would (or anyone could) end up with filmmaking. Can’t say I’ve been following them all along, but I’m always happy to stumble upon them and find out they’re still making videos. I’m a little confused about the fact that they haven’t posted a video in over a year, though.
“Infamous Canon Colors”. It always makes me smile when use “infamous” to mean something good.
My bad!
Anyone else really sad that this channel doesn't upload anymore? I used to watch them religiously when I was younger.
This channel has died and come back to life several times now. Three years seems about right for this channel to surprise us all with a new host and new upload.
wow coming back after all these year's looking to see what new budget builds and such they are making to come back and see them talking about 6000$ cameras man time's have changed
Hey we need more videos! Where are you guys?
I'm surprised you chose the C70 over the A7Siii given how much the Sony impressed you. Great video this; great color too.
Dude I have to say that I've watched a ton of videos like this and your videos are the only ones that don't put me to sleep. Thanks for keeping it fun and high energy. I don't get how these other so called "film makers" don't understand how to keep their audience engaged. You really take it to the next level so from my eyeballs to yours, thanks.
Thanks dude!
Would love to see the Z Cam F6 added to this comparison! Having it next to the Komodo really shows how great of a camera it is.
The F6 is a great low light performer with it's analog gain, has a slightly larger than FF 4:3 sensor, can do 4k120 in ProRes 422, has tons of interchangeable locking mounts, lasts 3-4 hours with a single NP-F970 battery, a color science I prefer to work with, and just a generally lovely IQ imo.
Holy moly! Is that the latest Z cam?
damn is that microphone mounted to an earthquake?
Just my strong arms.
That microphone movement was driving me nuts!! Lol ! Great work Dave !
Flexibility, AF, slomo: C70
IQ, resolution, color: Komodo
Verdict: A7Siii
Too bad they didnt put the s-cinetone in that camera
@@TJIzzy so much for that lol
@@TJIzzy they added it now.
@@soban9685 only because I said that
@@TJIzzy why do you need s-cinetone? Interested in why people wanted that so bad when you can grade slog so easily and get more range.
Dang, this channel died TWICE. I miss you guys. This channel taught me not three point, but FOUR point lighting. I dare anyone reading this to find that particular video, i DARE you
It's actually like the fourth or so time it dies
Man this channel was my go to to turn movie props and costumes into Halloween costumes! Sad to see this is that last upload.
Please come back :( there's so many things I still need to learn
My relationship with Indy Mogul is basically like mine with women. They keep leaving then coming back. I miss them and accept them back thinking they’ll stay but they never do.
Great honest review. So many on comment threads seem to care about sensor specs - what about real world usage, convenience, handling, those begin to be important when you get busy with work and don’t have all day to pull shadows in your bedroom. The C70 looks amazing. And I’m still shooting on the original C300 and I still love the images from it !
I remember the c300...went into showcase atlanta (before they shut down) and checked it out alongside some 50-60k lenses. Was amazing. But more amazing how far we've come....especially for $5500.
Our church is looking to upgrade video gear in the next year and I’ve been floating between the C70 and Komodo, glad to see this review, I’m settling on recommending a set up of C70s
I think that’s the best choice! It’s a true workhorse and works so well with editors and long form shoots but also has the cinematic look. Feel free to reach out at @davemaze and ask me anything.
Why not bmpcc4k, because then you can hook them up to a atem mini pro and control them, or the pana bgh1, for remote control as well
@@jamesshort6856 too cheap 🦀
@@jamesshort6856 because we already have a Ross Carbonite Solo so an atem mini would be a downgrade haha
@@stevenneaves8079 ah right. What cameras are you using atm?
Dave: which one is for you?
me: checks account*
also me: ...none
You can take photos with the C70 for thumbnails, it's built in
Title: which one for you?
Me: Ask my wallet first.
My wallet says 'use your damn camera phone'.
I keep trying to convince myself to buy a non-Canon camera but their cinema line just works too perfectly for our style of shooting. I think we will add a C70 soon.
Interesting. I have a a7s3 and c200 but I’m selling the c200 to get a red Komodo because I really don’t care for canon colors and feel like it’s holding me back compared to the a7s3.
@@jamietomas1550 We absolutely love our Canon cinema cameras and have been using them exclusively for like 8 years. The C100MKII is the best run and gun camera I've ever used. It has everything you need built in with quick and easy access. We use the C200 for more controlled shoots and it works great for us. Ordering a C70 this week. I'm only loyal to Canon cinema cameras because I can't find other cameras that work better for our purposes. Reds have the best color but not by so much that it eliminates all other cameras. I'm sure you will love your Komodo, it looks like an incredible camera! I wish it had the features we need.
@@OhanaFilms yeah i get that. They are easy to work with and have features that the Komodo doesn’t. The main thing is built in nd but canon Ef with nd solves that. I’d choose the fx6 over c70 but I have become more partial to Sony recently.
@@jamietomas1550 why is that curious? I use Canon personally but we use Sony at my work.
Where did u guys go silly goose
Why did the man stop uploading?🎉
When are we going to have new videos? We miss you guys
I remember when you had a muppet that spun the price wheel. You can't outrun your past
Those were the days indeed
What I’m really excited about is the RF mount compatibility with the vazen 40mm Anamorphic lens!
Where are you guys? why you're not posting videos? Is eveything okay?
Dave. Keep at it. You have an infectious excitement that gets me stoked about filmmaking.
You know you're rich when you can walk away from 1.32M Loyal Subscribers for 2 years good god lol
It’s so true I think anyway, the word cinematic, it’ll look cinematic, these cameras make cinematic images. Unless they used to make a feature film that’s shown you know at a cinema... it’s not actually cinematic material/footage. It’s just video with a certain amount of dynamic range, and wide colour space. Buying one of these cameras isn’t going to instantly make everything look “cinematic” like a feature film. Bob going to get some milk from walmart... is not cinematic weather it’s filmed on an iPhone or an Alexa... unless Bob is getting milk from Walmart while embroiled in a tense espionage network fighting to stop nuclear war!. So sick of people loading up ooooh cinematic broll 120 slow motion of someone walking through the bloody woods!. Basically don’t buy one of these expecting to make videos that look like a feature film. It’ll probably look like crap go pro footage instead.
Nope cinema cameras just have a special sauce that makes it feel very different from hybrid/iphone/gopro footage. It's no comparison unless you start to get to the expensive hybrids (a7siii, s1h. Not eos r5 or a7iii)
that walking down the sidewalk looked pretty cinematic. the only thing that scares me is long GOP which destroys motion cadence by not giving each frame equal time per fps. i.e. 15 fps the first half second and 9 fps the last half second (in 24 fps)
Where’s Indy Mogul?
Dave convinced me to pull the trigger on the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II, and I'm very happy with it...although there are some things I would change if I could. It's surprisingly strong for photo and video, especially for someone like me who just does it as a hobby. I'm certainly not in the cinema camera target market, although I might be interested in tracking down an old, used one at some point.
With regard to the C70, I think Canon could make a mint by selling a GOOD electronic viewfinder for this camera. I know you can buy things like the Zacuto Gratical HD, but if Canon sold something that was good but at a lower price point, I think people would snap it up.
What happened to the Indy Mogul channel? No new content in over a year.
Thank you for keeping the audio part of the intro
I want both! Different tools for different jobs
Any update, new video? Miss you guys!
so what happened to Indy Mogul????
no posts since two years..
Someone needs to make "The rise and fall of Indy Mogul"
Man this channel just can’t catch a break can it
I owned the original C300 and put 7,000 hours on that bad boy. That camera made me close to a million bucks, loved it. I didn’t love when Canon dropped the price from 15k to 6-7k over night. That was a bummer.
darn it Indy Mogul post some new vids already!!
Yo my man , please consider bringing this channel back to life with music video tutorials
I kind of wish you guys would bring back BFX
I am just getting started shooting video more seriously and this was very helpful. I shot with Canon DSLRs for years and was leaning towards the C70 and this comparison helped solidify my decision on what to buy when the time comes. Thank you!
I remember the times when it was a channel for actual new fimmakers on non-existing budget and not a Gear Hub to watch stuff they can't afford to even rent.
5:11 huh? R3D is smaller than ProRes and runs really smooth
As a C70 owner... I am very happy to hear this.
You’ve found your new 1Dc again, in the form of the C70 👍😊
C70 for the win
Over a year since your last video! Time to make more content!
YES!
Sadness creeps in as the reality you may be gone for good settles in my heart. Come back to us!!!
Do you have any insight about why the channel has died?
Any chance of a Black Friday recommended list this year?
Do you notice the Deity 4 Duo favors one side of the stereo over the other? Mine seems to have much louder input from the left and low gain from the right.
This channel taught me how to build a crash teet dummy in 2010 lol
A really good breakdown. Very similar prices, but completely different use cases.
Please come back from getting eggs and milk :(
When are you going to post more vids??? I miss your channel!!!
Last video was about 11 months ago!
Where is he? Is he on a break?
Where are you guys?
They upload individually on their own channels. They just did a camera review. ua-cam.com/video/DqlCZvctqZQ/v-deo.html
@@VillanuevaMedia thank you btw can you tell me their all the individual channel names
I can't afford either of these! 😂😂 But it was very entertaining! Thank you
Great video as always Dave! I can’t wait to get a C70!
great video Dave!
I am so confused. Where are they ? And I was brought here from a diy Star Wars tutorial, how come everything most recent is about filming…lol wtf is going on.
So is Indy Mogul coming back again? xD
Hey, does the Canon have a limiter? Canon with a good preamp? That is novel. Thanks for your vid.
I shot a bit on the C70 last week. I found the formfactor a bit clunky. The handgrip doesn't really allow for confortable hip-shooting like the other C-cameras do, and the placement of the DISP button felt weird compared to the C200 where it's on the screen. I'm sure you can get used to this pretty quickly, but those were my initial thoughts.
kinotika fans here🙌
Always love your stuff Dave, it got me laughing when you so bluntly but sincerely asked us to be your internet friends 😅 You got an IG follow from me. Although seriously, you doing okay out there? Lose a few people in quarantine? Just being awkward and checking in to make sure because I've been there and we gotta watch out for each other.
I got P4K just got quoted £500 for repair for £1000 camera and the C70 looks even more appealing now for me (mainly videography).
Yo guy where y’all at 😢
We miss you guys come back
What happend to this channel?
Similar comparison between C70 and A7s III would be much much appreciated!
This was cool to watch thanks heaps
I came back in time from August 2021 to tell you to get a more stable mic stand
WHERE IS INDY MOGGULE?
I heard that there is a monitor that can control KOMODO wirelessly. It seems to be specially made for KOMODO. Does anyone know?
Its brand seems to be called PORTKEYS, and its model seems to be BM5 WR. If you have used it, please introduce it. How does it feel to use it with KOMODO?
I want to buy one and try it recently, thank you!
a shame such a beloved channel as indymogul has lost its way and gone dark.
Is indy mogul based in indiana or Indianapolis? If so thatd be dope ! Also ... BRING BACK ZACH !!
I'm old school too Dave. I heard about 'motion cadence' from Ed David in his tests on EODHD 😅😂. But I ahave been following you, still remember your eoshd post telling us you were going to make content many years ago it seems. Then jumped on Kinotika and now jumped on u here 💪💪💪 *EOSHD
What teleprompter are you using?
So I guess Ted is going to Harvard so he can build Aputure's brand (twitter post). Dave has two kids so I'm sure he's been busy. But he says he wants to get back into tech reviews in 2022 but do it, "his way." Possible move from IndyMogul? Either way, hard to say when we'll see from this channel again.
well back in 2012, Canon announced their price at $19K for the c300 and then dropped it to $16000
Wow 3 years felt like nothing
Where are you?
Hi Indy Mogul crew, I am looking for a cinematic camera under £500 and don’t know whether I should get the Sony a6300, Canon M50 or the Lumix gh4.
And just like that. Theyre gone
Which one is for me? Neither...too expensive for me, but nothing wrong with dreaming. Good video!
It's been 11 months now....we need new Indy Mogul content
Heyyy You filmed at my local park ! Sante Fe Dam !
Such a tough choice. The only advantage the C70 has is you can shoot with it out the box. Toss a lens on and go. Komodo requires a build even if it’s the most minimal you can go. Both great cameras tho
And the in Camera-audio-Capabilities and build in ND-Filters sound really sexy for my type of work.
Yeah you weren’t paying attention there’s a lot of advantages the c70 has
Happy anniversary of your last post. Come back soon!