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You’re hysterical. The way you made this video was in it of itself genius. It had great camera angles. It had good sound. It had a real problem with an actual solution and it kept me engaged and entertained. My hats off to you sir.
Good idea although it is not new. Exactly same mechanism was used by Well Done Tips channel 2years ago. I built my castor lift of his video. Works like a charm.
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks This channel is great, can't believe it took so long for youtube to recommend it to me! I just made your super strut panel clamps last week.
For the next version, mount that assembly inside of the bench legs instead of the outside. Then have the steel "lever/latch" extend a bit to the outside edge of the bench, that way you avoid the trip hazard and get a better stance closer to the bench in that edge.Then you can have that lever/latch very close to the bench edge. But you'll need to operate it via the lever/latch instead of applying force to the wood lever. To do this, maybe add a stop to the left of the lever (as oriented in this video) so when you step on the lever as if you were un-latching and releasing the wheel back up, you instead put a downward force on it and it hits the stop, then transfers the force to the wood lever pushing the wheels down. To release, it would still work the same way you have it now. Basically, hiding the wood levers and casters by relocating them to the inside of the bench, leaving only a little of the steel lever/latch exposed. What do you think?
If you look closely you’ll see that in my case, there are cabinets under the bench that prevent mounting inside of the legs. If those weren’t there your idea would probably work.
I still get amazed how I can just stumble on a smaller woodworking channel and find such great production quality right out of the gate. Great stuff all-round.
This is the first video I’ve seen of yours, love it! I really like the way you walk through your ideas/iterations. Fun to try to solve it along with you and very cool little history lesson. You’ve earned a new sub, can’t wait to watch your other videos. Thank you!
Lee, you made me think of the Nevil Shute character who said something like, "An engineer is someone who can do, for $2.75, what any fool can do for $20." Great idea, great execution.
I love those ones that you trashed. it's based on what your needs are. I like that I can remove them since rarely move them. And their dirt cheap since I only need to buy the plates
This is a really great setup. The only way I'd like to see it improved is by somehow moving the wheels and mechanism under the workbench, while still having it be easily operable by foot, AND by having the one lever raise all 4 corners on 4 casters at once. Yes, that's a challenge :) (but now I won't be able to stop thinking about how to achieve it)
I too thought about how this could be moved under the bench. I think the way you could actuate both at the same time is with a 2x4 running between the ends of the two top levers. You extend the levers to outboard side of the bench, running a strut between them - end to end. Therefore, you press down on the central strut (or "step") engaging both locks at the same time. Then, you install a smaller 1x1, dowel, or metal rod (conduit?) between the two latches with a pull string in the center "step".
This video is great for so many reasons. Not only the idea is nice but the entire process to come up with the idea and the injection of culture in some parts, plus the daddy jokes which I find amazing, makes this video an incredible piece of work. I can only imagine the amount of work this took. Do you do your videos alone or is there someone helping you? Maybe this was already answered somewhere but regardless of it being solo or a team work, it doesn't change the fact that this was a great content. Thank you for enriching the woodworking community with this entertaining material.
Love the message bud. And just to clarify for anyone who is unsure, you are absolutely, unequivocally, undeniably, undoubtedly, possibly, maybe, potentially smarter than Edison. But, in all seriousness you have actually solved a genuine issue that we all have. And that is pretty cool. Thank you.
I didn't want to fail 10,000 times or is it 2,000, or ??? any at all, so I decided to forget about making a bench that moves. Instead I thought... how many beers can I drink before I fail at keeping all my fingers attached. Seriously Lee I LOVE your videos. They're fun and informative. They right to the point and help people to think, and NOT worry about making a few mastakes (pun intended). Like Edison, each time we make a mistake we can learn something from it, even if its not to do it again.
Great idea Lee. I have those same casters on my bench and you're right, they are a pain to use. You also mentioned that you would trip over longer levers on those casters. You're right...I know I would do the same because I already trip over the shorter one lol. Thanks for the inspiration!
Happy holidays , I have similar bench casters. they sure seem like a great idea at first. Implementation with them is just a terrible experience. You hints on the fact when releasing them with your foot it takes a ton of pressure and that becomes a bit painful . So the set I purchased some years ago sit in a big box of casters. Thank you for the inspiration to get out in the shop and create something. I also want to thank you for the humor man , you are a riot .
Excelent video. Just an idea that i had when Iwas watching. If you change the position of the piece of iron to inside, it will be a bit more safe for your legs. I imagining myself hitting that at least once a day 😂
Brilliant! I just relocated my planer bench to a spot against a wall where I can only use it if I move it out a couple feet. Conventional kick top casters won't work because I can't access the wall side of the bench. Your solution will be perfect with a minor modification. I'll have to mount the wheels on the inside of the legs rather than outside, but my bench design will allow for that, no problem. Thanks!👍
Thanks for the video. Unless you always wear very sturdy shoes (which I don't) that point at the bottom of the latch is just waiting to poke a hole in the top of your foot. Maybe round that off so it is not an accident waiting to happen.
Damn, I just ordered the exact same work bench casters and now I have to send them back! 😅 Thank you for this genius video! Yet again, another great idea I will have to steal! (Btw. absolute flawless editing and good humor as always, this is my new favorite video of yours, well done my friend!)
I was thinking of buying the casters you don't like. Thanks for the idea to make my own. Harbor Freight has casters cheap if you haven't saved (like me) for 30+ years and have multiples of almost everything laying around. I'm new to your videos. You do have really good computer skills. Keep it up.
IMO, it's worth looking beyond Harbor Freight. Their business model is pretty simple: - Order stuff in bulk from China - Sell it at prices that undercut domestic alternatives - Have enough markup to support a retail store and offer returns + a minimal amount of after-sales support That worked really, really well for years but was based around the core assumption that it was expensive / difficult / risky to import things yourself. Chinese companies selling directly on Amazon completely upends that: - It's pretty easy to find stuff with both higher quality and lower markup - You get quick shipping + easy returns If you spend $20 on a set of 4 swivel casters with PU wheels right now, here's what you could get: Harbor Freight - Non-locking 2" casters rated for 88lbs each Amazon - Double-locking 5" casters rated for 350lbs each
Great Video. Loved the additional content. As others mentioned, if the latch was moved to the inside then it would be more out of the way and also, maybe then you could move the latch further to the left side still having room to operate the lever with your foot (now that the latch is out of the way). By doing so, it might straighten the right-side caster as there would be less spring back angle? Just a thought.
Excellent design, excellent video! How did you decide on the angle for the catching slot in the metal part? My future workbench will absolutely need this!
I've been looking for some time for a good design for Tip Jacks, as I knew them in my theatre days... I couldn't quite remember all the details of how they were done. This isn't the design we used, but it definitely shares characteristics, and... I think it might just do for my purposes! Anyway, it looks good; thanks for sharing!
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks Thanks! I haven't been doing much woodworking recently, but when I get back to it, I'll hopefully remember this video and give it a shot. :)
Great video! A laugh a minute plus some great ideas. What about a hand-crank trailer jack attached to a t-base with casters? Thanks for the inspiration!
Probably should have used 3" casters... I've seen a couple of other YT videos suggesting the same solution and they used a door hinge and 3" casters... The same kind of Angle iron latch. So I have a question, what is the name of that type of latch? They're not a common hardware item, although they look like they should be.
I got a set of these and the QD mounts for one of those 6 foot HD tables at work. It's big, heavy, and has stuff in the way to prevent my usual moving methods. These worked a treat. And with the QD mounts. I could just use one set of wheels on several tables by getting more mounts. They're lower profile than the wheels mounted 24/7. Although I'd go with something like you cooked up if I was moving the tables regularly.
Yep, I have those on my bench also and even though they are a pain in the butt, they do get the job done. With that said, IMPROVEMENT on an existing idea/product is always well worth the time and your solution is a surprisingly easy one once you actually "see" it. Difficult to come up with but then that "light bulb" (see what I did there?) goes on in your brain and badda bing, you are coming up with an amazing solution. The production value alone in this upload is incredible. I feel like I am watching a show with a huge production budget! As for naked woodworking, yeah, not tuning into that one... yikes!
Whenever I need to move my large workbench, I clip them on, use them and then take them off. They work perfectly as single units. Your videos are great, however. Thanks!
That is a VERY good idea! Question. Only one pair of casters move up and down. So the other one is always ‘movable’. When your workbench is ‘grounded’ - how much the other side moves?
I think this could be tremendously improved by mounting it on the other side of the bench feet. My main gripe with the cheap casters is that they add so much footprint.
I don't think the instability of the store bought ones is as big an issue as you make it to be. Yes it does wobble when one wheel is down. That state is never intended to exist except momentarily until you raise the next lower the next wheel So I don't think that really should be listed as a con for the store bought ones. I just put a board across the two and now they raise and lower together.
@@Mhj96813 For me, my shop floor although concrete, isn't super level. Mine are just flimsy enough that sometimes when moving around if the wheel spins that right spot it will pop mine out of lock. More of an annoying trait than anything to me.
@I’m not sure. I have one, but I only because I had to cut some steel channel for my wife’s project. I’ve never used it and wouldn’t have one if not for that. I was just looking to see if there was some method you used that didn’t require a semi-specialized tool.
Really nice. Though I might suggest turning it around so the catch is against the table instead of being out there where it's going to trip me. Love your videos :)
You could. In Lee’s application, he already has the bench. Was thinking of mounting the legs frames to the outside of the existing legs. Then up on the button would extend the wheels, lifting the the bench. Then just reverse to retract and have the solid footing. Would need to run a cord, but in a shop it’s likely only moving 10’.
Standing desks are usually rotating a threaded rod to jack things up (i.e. a screw, one of those other simple machines) Something like portable car jacks + cheap corded drills + a switch to operate might give you a similar system with higher load capacity and lower cost than a full standing desk.
I put the Rockler casters on my bench and hated the rocking of doing 1 at a time. My solution was to drill holes in the levers and bolt an oak bar between pairs of casters. Step on the bar to lift both casters or lift bar with foot to set bench back to floor.
@@kenerickson4923 I showed those on my JessEm router table about 20 seconds in. Those do work but it makes the leverage even worse because you’re now lifting twice the weight.
Amazing effects that are actually entertaining, not sure I buy into his premise on the removable casters. That they are removable is important for some equipment. With a bench the lifting mechanism is a trip hazard. Removing it when you don’t need mobility makes sense. You won’t stub your toes and gouge your ankles. The lever length issue is also fixable. Make a removable lever if you need one. All of that said, his video was fun to watch. On some equipment the assembly would make sense.
Wow!! Look who it is! You look like a UA-camr that went MIA.😂😂. Well welcome back!! Love the message you’re trying to say. I do see some potential saftey issues with this.😂😂 I believe OHSA might ban this video and you might have to start over. Lol Great video Lee!!
Sorry to say this…but I needed those “trash” casters mounted on the quick remove plates so they can be used on two benches. It took some minor adjusting but they work fine. So the challenge for you is making your design to quickly and easily move from one bench to another…and space is an issue.
@@inherited-shop I don’t think many people are taking the time and trouble to swap these casters between benches, when it would be way easier to just have two sets
@ maybe the fact that not all shops are created equal and there are those that downplay one concept over another. We all do things differently and not everyone’s solution fits everyone’s situation. Glad your build fits yours, and maybe a few others, so well.
I do CAD for 3d printing. I don't think anything has worked for me on the first iteration. See what is working, see what isn't, rinse, repeat. Sometimes walking away from the issue will help you solve it faster than banging your head against the wall. I don't know how many solutions have entered my mind while sleeping, but they work. Oh, yeah, great idea!
I've been looking at an even simpler approach: using larger double-locking casters rated for higher loads. Doing some calculations (assisted by AI): - Assume that you're striking something metal on a 200lb wood workbench - Assume you're striking something metal using a 2lb wood hammer - Swing speed for the hammer is 30ft/s (faster than most people can swing a hammer) - Assume that you're hitting directly over a caster so that it takes the full force of the swing - That means for ~0.01s or so the caster is taking both the dynamic force of the impact + the full weight of the workbench - The wood in a workbench will absorb ~10% of the dynamic force - Total you're looking at ~370lbs of force making its way to the caster 2" casters usually support about 75-150lbs each That's far too low, even to support the momentary loading of the bench's weight on the caster. 6" casters often support 700-800lbs each That should be enough to handle impact, particularly if you add in a thin layer of damping material like Sorbothane / etc. in between the bench frame & top or between the bench & casters to absorb some of the impact. (Even using basic rubber washers when mounting the casters should help) Cons of relying on casters: 1. There's usually a slight amount of play double-locking casters (not a huge deal for most of what I'm doing) 2. Lower surface area in contact with the floor means a higher chance of sliding when hammering or pushing laterally If I find it to be a problem, I'm planning to try something like a block of wood with some grippy rubber on the bottom that I can slide under or have attached with a screw mechanism to lower as needed Pros: 1. Nothing rolls off the surface when locking / unlocking (since the workbench stays at a constant height) 2. Less force is needed -- since you're just engaging the lock vs. lifting the bench 3. The bigger wheels and increased ground clearance make it easier to roll around or roll over bumps In my case this is huge, since I like being able to roll things outside and have a workshop on a slab that's 3/4" higher than the outside is key. 4. Most of the time you can restrict motion enough to keep things stable by just locking opposite corners (or even a single corner) 5. The newer casters I got have a split lever mechanism so that you can both lock & unlock by pushing down 6. Less work to just screw them on and start using them
I think this would totally work as long as you don’t mind the extra play you would have caused by the swiveling. For what I do, I can’t have that, I need mine to have solid floor contact.
Edisen simply gave hundreds of people labs with access to power and different materials to try. He not only didn't pay them, he charged them for access. Then the the ones that found the best materials he hired as interns for a pittance. The very best material, tungsten was discovered much later.
@@robertmceuen3630 None of those are workbenches. It’s a totally different case. You definitely do not want a workbench on casters that don’t retract. You need solid contact to the floor for stability.
This is not a new idea. Carl Holmgren have good videos of retracting casters here on yt. I put it to the test on my heavy workbench a couple of years ago and it works great. Finally got use out of some old casters I had been holding onto for no good reason. But anyway, good video!
Edison was a jerk, Tesla was the true genius. // Great video. I sometimes forget I can use metal in projects because I'm hyper focused on wood all the time, this is a good reminder of using the right tool for the job.
I bought a (not cheap) steel caster base for my 14” bandsaw. The levers to engage the casters are plastic and less than 5”. Both plastic levers broke after only a few uses. Money down the drain. I need to make something like yours.
Take the trash lift casters and bolt levers together with a piece of metal. One foot and both casters go up and down at the same time. I would include a picture but I'm an old guy with NO techno savy!
As for the casters, rotate the wheel IN instead of out as you did... and then it works easy. I dont mind that one lifts before the other.... Give it a try! Much better than the way you were doing and no extra work. I think your project was great though and I enjoyed it a lot. Probably won't change my casters though.
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You’re hysterical. The way you made this video was in it of itself genius. It had great camera angles. It had good sound. It had a real problem with an actual solution and it kept me engaged and entertained. My hats off to you sir.
Thanks for the kind words. I try to make my videos interesting.
Another, great video!!
Good idea although it is not new. Exactly same mechanism was used by Well Done Tips channel 2years ago. I built my castor lift of his video. Works like a charm.
Honestly can't figure out why you don't have more followers..
We need to spread the word
Yes! You guys need to get on that! 😁
It's ageism with all these kids and their tickity tocks and twitching and stealing all the viewers from quality channels.
I just subscribed!!😃
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks This channel is great, can't believe it took so long for youtube to recommend it to me! I just made your super strut panel clamps last week.
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworksWell, you just got me! Great video!
For the next version, mount that assembly inside of the bench legs instead of the outside. Then have the steel "lever/latch" extend a bit to the outside edge of the bench, that way you avoid the trip hazard and get a better stance closer to the bench in that edge.Then you can have that lever/latch very close to the bench edge. But you'll need to operate it via the lever/latch instead of applying force to the wood lever. To do this, maybe add a stop to the left of the lever (as oriented in this video) so when you step on the lever as if you were un-latching and releasing the wheel back up, you instead put a downward force on it and it hits the stop, then transfers the force to the wood lever pushing the wheels down. To release, it would still work the same way you have it now. Basically, hiding the wood levers and casters by relocating them to the inside of the bench, leaving only a little of the steel lever/latch exposed. What do you think?
If you look closely you’ll see that in my case, there are cabinets under the bench that prevent mounting inside of the legs. If those weren’t there your idea would probably work.
I still get amazed how I can just stumble on a smaller woodworking channel and find such great production quality right out of the gate.
Great stuff all-round.
@@Itslvle thanks so much, there are a few of us out here! 👋
This is the first video I’ve seen of yours, love it! I really like the way you walk through your ideas/iterations. Fun to try to solve it along with you and very cool little history lesson. You’ve earned a new sub, can’t wait to watch your other videos. Thank you!
@@markduncan525 thank you, that’s a very nice compliment
Great idea. Also, that editing/production was phenomenal. Nice work my friend!
Thanks, that’s my favorite part of making these videos!
@BustedKnuckleWoodworks i nees to take some notes and up my game!
Great name. LMAO. Thx.
Lee, you made me think of the Nevil Shute character who said something like, "An engineer is someone who can do, for $2.75, what any fool can do for $20."
Great idea, great execution.
Had to google “Neil Shute” and went down that rabbit hole for a bit but wow, what an interesting guy!
This is amazing! I love what you've built, and those animations are blowing my mind
@@worstworkshop working on finding my voice on here!
Still getting better! 😮 I couldn't stop watching! I do need a new workbench.
Well now you know what to do for wheels 👆
I love those ones that you trashed. it's based on what your needs are. I like that I can remove them since rarely move them. And their dirt cheap since I only need to buy the plates
This is a really great setup. The only way I'd like to see it improved is by somehow moving the wheels and mechanism under the workbench, while still having it be easily operable by foot, AND by having the one lever raise all 4 corners on 4 casters at once. Yes, that's a challenge :) (but now I won't be able to stop thinking about how to achieve it)
I spent quite a while trying to think of a way to drop all four at once. Didn’t come up with anything clever. Hopefully you’ll have better luck 👍
I too thought about how this could be moved under the bench. I think the way you could actuate both at the same time is with a 2x4 running between the ends of the two top levers. You extend the levers to outboard side of the bench, running a strut between them - end to end. Therefore, you press down on the central strut (or "step") engaging both locks at the same time. Then, you install a smaller 1x1, dowel, or metal rod (conduit?) between the two latches with a pull string in the center "step".
Awesome idea! Of course you come up with this video after I already bought and installed my casters. 😅
Ah, well! Now you have a great solution for the future, though. 💪
I bought a set of those and I hate them. They stick out 5 inches on each side and it takes up too much room.
But his idea is 100 times better.
@ thanks my man 👍
This video is great for so many reasons. Not only the idea is nice but the entire process to come up with the idea and the injection of culture in some parts, plus the daddy jokes which I find amazing, makes this video an incredible piece of work. I can only imagine the amount of work this took. Do you do your videos alone or is there someone helping you? Maybe this was already answered somewhere but regardless of it being solo or a team work, it doesn't change the fact that this was a great content.
Thank you for enriching the woodworking community with this entertaining material.
Very kind of you to say. I’m doing this all myself… which is why it took so long since my last video!
Love the message bud. And just to clarify for anyone who is unsure, you are absolutely, unequivocally, undeniably, undoubtedly, possibly, maybe, potentially smarter than Edison. But, in all seriousness you have actually solved a genuine issue that we all have. And that is pretty cool. Thank you.
To be honest I had no idea there were so many Edison haters out there 😆
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks OR Lee lovers
I didn't want to fail 10,000 times or is it 2,000, or ??? any at all, so I decided to forget about making a bench that moves. Instead I thought... how many beers can I drink before I fail at keeping all my fingers attached.
Seriously Lee I LOVE your videos. They're fun and informative. They right to the point and help people to think, and NOT worry about making a few mastakes (pun intended).
Like Edison, each time we make a mistake we can learn something from it, even if its not to do it again.
Thanks so much my man, appreciate it
Good morning 🌅, I latched onto your idea very quickly,, from France,
Salut! I will be in Paris next week! I go to France several times a year, my favorite place! Follow me in IG, I post pics! 🇫🇷
For me, this was the right video at the right time. Thanks!
You're welcome! Glad it helped!
Great idea Lee. I have those same casters on my bench and you're right, they are a pain to use. You also mentioned that you would trip over longer levers on those casters. You're right...I know I would do the same because I already trip over the shorter one lol. Thanks for the inspiration!
Thanks for watching my friend
Happy holidays , I have similar bench casters. they sure seem like a great idea at first. Implementation with them is just a terrible experience. You hints on the fact when releasing them with your foot it takes a ton of pressure and that becomes a bit painful . So the set I purchased some years ago sit in a big box of casters. Thank you for the inspiration to get out in the shop and create something. I also want to thank you for the humor man , you are a riot .
I think it's a pretty common problem!
Excelent video. Just an idea that i had when Iwas watching. If you change the position of the piece of iron to inside, it will be a bit more safe for your legs. I imagining myself hitting that at least once a day 😂
Brilliant! I just relocated my planer bench to a spot against a wall where I can only use it if I move it out a couple feet. Conventional kick top casters won't work because I can't access the wall side of the bench. Your solution will be perfect with a minor modification. I'll have to mount the wheels on the inside of the legs rather than outside, but my bench design will allow for that, no problem. Thanks!👍
@@thehappychiselllc nice! Would love to see a pic when you finish it!
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks Will do. I may even shoot video.
Thanks for the video. Unless you always wear very sturdy shoes (which I don't) that point at the bottom of the latch is just waiting to poke a hole in the top of your foot. Maybe round that off so it is not an accident waiting to happen.
Nice idea. You are the wood Magneto.
The detailed description of your though process is as interesting as the solution.
I appreciate the Magneto comparison 😂
Damn, I just ordered the exact same work bench casters and now I have to send them back! 😅 Thank you for this genius video! Yet again, another great idea I will have to steal! (Btw. absolute flawless editing and good humor as always, this is my new favorite video of yours, well done my friend!)
@@adrianwoodworm You are too kind. Not totally flawless but getting there!
You’re totally fine. I have three sets of these in my workshop and they work great just as they are.
I was thinking of buying the casters you don't like. Thanks for the idea to make my own. Harbor Freight has casters cheap if you haven't saved (like me) for 30+ years and have multiples of almost everything laying around. I'm new to your videos. You do have really good computer skills. Keep it up.
Thanks, I try to make these videos look good!
IMO, it's worth looking beyond Harbor Freight.
Their business model is pretty simple:
- Order stuff in bulk from China
- Sell it at prices that undercut domestic alternatives
- Have enough markup to support a retail store and offer returns + a minimal amount of after-sales support
That worked really, really well for years but was based around the core assumption that it was expensive / difficult / risky to import things yourself.
Chinese companies selling directly on Amazon completely upends that:
- It's pretty easy to find stuff with both higher quality and lower markup
- You get quick shipping + easy returns
If you spend $20 on a set of 4 swivel casters with PU wheels right now, here's what you could get:
Harbor Freight
- Non-locking 2" casters rated for 88lbs each
Amazon
- Double-locking 5" casters rated for 350lbs each
Great Video. Loved the additional content. As others mentioned, if the latch was moved to the inside then it would be more out of the way and also, maybe then you could move the latch further to the left side still having room to operate the lever with your foot (now that the latch is out of the way). By doing so, it might straighten the right-side caster as there would be less spring back angle? Just a thought.
I should try that, it might be a good improvement.
Excellent design, excellent video! How did you decide on the angle for the catching slot in the metal part? My future workbench will absolutely need this!
Once you drill the two holes you just need to lay it out with a ruler in such a way that the latch will clear the bottom pin.
I’m going to get started today to made a set. Thank you.
@@robd7703 go for it! Let me know how it goes 👍
I've been looking for some time for a good design for Tip Jacks, as I knew them in my theatre days... I couldn't quite remember all the details of how they were done. This isn't the design we used, but it definitely shares characteristics, and... I think it might just do for my purposes! Anyway, it looks good; thanks for sharing!
Man, I hope it works for you 🤞
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks Thanks! I haven't been doing much woodworking recently, but when I get back to it, I'll hopefully remember this video and give it a shot. :)
Great video! A laugh a minute plus some great ideas. What about a hand-crank trailer jack attached to a t-base with casters? Thanks for the inspiration!
Cool idea!
Great invention! And I appreciate your positive and inspirational mindset.
I appreciate that!
Probably should have used 3" casters... I've seen a couple of other YT videos suggesting the same solution and they used a door hinge and 3" casters... The same kind of Angle iron latch. So I have a question, what is the name of that type of latch? They're not a common hardware item, although they look like they should be.
Closest thing I’ve seen in a store would be a gate latch
Link to vids?
I got a set of these and the QD mounts for one of those 6 foot HD tables at work. It's big, heavy, and has stuff in the way to prevent my usual moving methods. These worked a treat. And with the QD mounts. I could just use one set of wheels on several tables by getting more mounts. They're lower profile than the wheels mounted 24/7. Although I'd go with something like you cooked up if I was moving the tables regularly.
That sounds like a great use for them!
Cool idea. Is there a way to get that mechanism on the inside of the legs?
You could definitely do that as long as there isn’t anything like a cabinet or drawers that could interfere.
That's a great solution! Thanks for sharing your process, and I love the history and physics component ❤
It was a fun video to make
Great idea and implementation Lee! Loved the animations!
Thanks, that's my favorite part
Yep, I have those on my bench also and even though they are a pain in the butt, they do get the job done. With that said, IMPROVEMENT on an existing idea/product is always well worth the time and your solution is a surprisingly easy one once you actually "see" it. Difficult to come up with but then that "light bulb" (see what I did there?) goes on in your brain and badda bing, you are coming up with an amazing solution. The production value alone in this upload is incredible. I feel like I am watching a show with a huge production budget! As for naked woodworking, yeah, not tuning into that one... yikes!
Thanks for watching! The production value isn't as good as you think. I do all of this myself!
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks I know you do and I know your previous background ya humble man. 😜😉 Great job!
I love the ones I put on a bunch of tables they work great and hold a bunch of weight.
Whenever I need to move my large workbench, I clip them on, use them and then take them off. They work perfectly as single units. Your videos are great, however. Thanks!
Not a bad solution if you don’t move it often. I move mine several times a day though, so it saves a lot of time for me.
That is a VERY good idea! Question. Only one pair of casters move up and down. So the other one is always ‘movable’. When your workbench is ‘grounded’ - how much the other side moves?
When the bench is on the floor the one touching the floor doesn’t move at all because it’s only touching very lightly.
@ I am processing this message. please stand by. lol.
@ maybe I didn’t understand your question. I left the old casters on just for filming the video, but now I have the new ones I made on both ends.
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks when bench is on the floor, are all 4 casters are lifted? If just 2, will one side move?
@ correct. Each end works independently
I think this could be tremendously improved by mounting it on the other side of the bench feet. My main gripe with the cheap casters is that they add so much footprint.
@@bazzatron9482 several others have made the same point. I may give it a go!
Interesting. I have some stuff hanging on the ends so the angle iron would get in the way. But you have given me some ideas. Thank you!
Glad I could give you some ideas!
This looks great and functions even better. I have those same casters at the beginning and can verify, they are super annoying and unstable.
Preach brother 🙏
I don't think the instability of the store bought ones is as big an issue as you make it to be. Yes it does wobble when one wheel is down. That state is never intended to exist except momentarily until you raise the next lower the next wheel
So I don't think that really should be listed as a con for the store bought ones. I just put a board across the two and now they raise and lower together.
@ it could be a big liability if you have a project on your bench at the time
@@Mhj96813 For me, my shop floor although concrete, isn't super level. Mine are just flimsy enough that sometimes when moving around if the wheel spins that right spot it will pop mine out of lock. More of an annoying trait than anything to me.
This will improve everything I do in my shop!! such a simple and great idea!
I know, right? Keep it simple I say
@ so good
Nice solution! Yeah I've thought about those as well, but my garage floor is both uneven and slightly sloped, which makes it difficult.
Yeah, that makes it tough for sure
can you mount those in the inside of your bench and still have a way to operate them? Then they wouldn't stick out from the bench at all?
I think you could as long as there wasn’t a cabinet or drawers that would interfere.
One problem. How do you cut the notch in the steel without having to buy extra tools, which counteracts the cost efficiency?
@@WyldfireKeeper don’t most people have an angle grinder already?
@I’m not sure. I have one, but I only because I had to cut some steel channel for my wife’s project. I’ve never used it and wouldn’t have one if not for that. I was just looking to see if there was some method you used that didn’t require a semi-specialized tool.
@ you could use a hacksaw but it would take some effort
I bought a set of these for my bench and I'm looking for replacements.
Give my idea a try, it might work for you!
lol it’s exactly what I did to make my cabinet saw mobile. Great video
Yep, works on anything with casters I would think
Can this be mounted on the insides of the legs?
I think you could, depends on what kind of bench you have and if there is some kind of cabinet that would be in the way.
Really nice. Though I might suggest turning it around so the catch is against the table instead of being out there where it's going to trip me. Love your videos :)
Many have suggested this. I might have to try it out.
I have those cheap workbench castors - they work a treat - been using them for years
Ok 👍
I connected both wheels with a piece of angle iron as a step. Step down to raise, lift with one foot to set on the floor. Just that simple.
@@twc6392 my router table has that, as I showed at the beginning, but doesn’t address the issue of lack of leverage
Plus your version isn’t as ugly looking! 😂
Great video and a great message. Thanks Lee
@@jaredvandyke thanks for watching my friend
Great video and great idea Lee. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
How about a mechanized approach? Use the flexispot frame with big casters. Button up, button down.
It would be interesting to see if I could make a decent workbench out of that frame!
You could. In Lee’s application, he already has the bench. Was thinking of mounting the legs frames to the outside of the existing legs. Then up on the button would extend the wheels, lifting the the bench. Then just reverse to retract and have the solid footing. Would need to run a cord, but in a shop it’s likely only moving 10’.
Standing desks are usually rotating a threaded rod to jack things up (i.e. a screw, one of those other simple machines)
Something like portable car jacks + cheap corded drills + a switch to operate might give you a similar system with higher load capacity and lower cost than a full standing desk.
Now to connect both sides together so it only takes one step to lower and raise both sides.
@@toddclement4891 thought of that. I think if I had more empty space under there it would be doable
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks I bet you could figure it out. it might take a double fulcrum. kinda like a train sending force to its wheels.
Wow, I feel like I'm watching myself.... but with wood!
Impressive video. Sub'd. Now diving into your others. They better be just as good!
They are, trust me 😉
I put the Rockler casters on my bench and hated the rocking of doing 1 at a time. My solution was to drill holes in the levers and bolt an oak bar between pairs of casters. Step on the bar to lift both casters or lift bar with foot to set bench back to floor.
@@kenerickson4923 I showed those on my JessEm router table about 20 seconds in. Those do work but it makes the leverage even worse because you’re now lifting twice the weight.
I liked the second solution better. One large lever with two casters - on either side. Just join them, add a latch and you're good to go
Couldn’t think of a way to make a reliable latch for that one
Amazing effects that are actually entertaining, not sure I buy into his premise on the removable casters. That they are removable is important for some equipment. With a bench the lifting mechanism is a trip hazard. Removing it when you don’t need mobility makes sense. You won’t stub your toes and gouge your ankles. The lever length issue is also fixable. Make a removable lever if you need one. All of that said, his video was fun to watch. On some equipment the assembly would make sense.
Wow!! Look who it is! You look like a UA-camr that went MIA.😂😂. Well welcome back!! Love the message you’re trying to say. I do see some potential saftey issues with this.😂😂
I believe OHSA might ban this video and you might have to start over. Lol
Great video Lee!!
@@scottbyrd2157 OSHA would find a lot worse things in my shop than this 😆
Great job! I agree that those other castors are junk and painful
You know it!
Sorry to say this…but I needed those “trash” casters mounted on the quick remove plates so they can be used on two benches. It took some minor adjusting but they work fine. So the challenge for you is making your design to quickly and easily move from one bench to another…and space is an issue.
@@inherited-shop I don’t think many people are taking the time and trouble to swap these casters between benches, when it would be way easier to just have two sets
@ maybe the fact that not all shops are created equal and there are those that downplay one concept over another. We all do things differently and not everyone’s solution fits everyone’s situation. Glad your build fits yours, and maybe a few others, so well.
What if you want to lock the wheels?
@@david2go13 you don’t. You just raise them. The other kind don’t lock either. No need to.
I do CAD for 3d printing. I don't think anything has worked for me on the first iteration. See what is working, see what isn't, rinse, repeat.
Sometimes walking away from the issue will help you solve it faster than banging your head against the wall. I don't know how many solutions have entered my mind while sleeping, but they work.
Oh, yeah, great idea!
I’ve found that when you can’t solve a problem, sometimes the answer just comes to you.
I've been looking at an even simpler approach: using larger double-locking casters rated for higher loads.
Doing some calculations (assisted by AI):
- Assume that you're striking something metal on a 200lb wood workbench
- Assume you're striking something metal using a 2lb wood hammer
- Swing speed for the hammer is 30ft/s (faster than most people can swing a hammer)
- Assume that you're hitting directly over a caster so that it takes the full force of the swing
- That means for ~0.01s or so the caster is taking both the dynamic force of the impact + the full weight of the workbench
- The wood in a workbench will absorb ~10% of the dynamic force
- Total you're looking at ~370lbs of force making its way to the caster
2" casters usually support about 75-150lbs each
That's far too low, even to support the momentary loading of the bench's weight on the caster.
6" casters often support 700-800lbs each
That should be enough to handle impact, particularly if you add in a thin layer of damping material like Sorbothane / etc. in between the bench frame & top or between the bench & casters to absorb some of the impact. (Even using basic rubber washers when mounting the casters should help)
Cons of relying on casters:
1. There's usually a slight amount of play double-locking casters (not a huge deal for most of what I'm doing)
2. Lower surface area in contact with the floor means a higher chance of sliding when hammering or pushing laterally
If I find it to be a problem, I'm planning to try something like a block of wood with some grippy rubber on the bottom that I can slide under or have attached with a screw mechanism to lower as needed
Pros:
1. Nothing rolls off the surface when locking / unlocking (since the workbench stays at a constant height)
2. Less force is needed -- since you're just engaging the lock vs. lifting the bench
3. The bigger wheels and increased ground clearance make it easier to roll around or roll over bumps
In my case this is huge, since I like being able to roll things outside and have a workshop on a slab that's 3/4" higher than the outside is key.
4. Most of the time you can restrict motion enough to keep things stable by just locking opposite corners (or even a single corner)
5. The newer casters I got have a split lever mechanism so that you can both lock & unlock by pushing down
6. Less work to just screw them on and start using them
I think this would totally work as long as you don’t mind the extra play you would have caused by the swiveling. For what I do, I can’t have that, I need mine to have solid floor contact.
That was more brilliant than Edison's light bulb. Kol HaKavod!
Haha I wish 😆
Love this channel
It loves you right back
Great job. Thank you 😊
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Edisen simply gave hundreds of people labs with access to power and different materials to try. He not only didn't pay them, he charged them for access. Then the the ones that found the best materials he hired as interns for a pittance. The very best material, tungsten was discovered much later.
I had no idea people hated this guy so hard.
All my machinery is on lockable, swivel casters. Never encountered any problems. Saw, plane, joint, sand with no distractions.
@@robertmceuen3630 None of those are workbenches. It’s a totally different case. You definitely do not want a workbench on casters that don’t retract. You need solid contact to the floor for stability.
You replied in 2 minutes! Thanks. Ya, my workbench doesn't move. Well, I should say its not mobile. If I move it, it's by dragging.
This is not a new idea. Carl Holmgren have good videos of retracting casters here on yt. I put it to the test on my heavy workbench a couple of years ago and it works great. Finally got use out of some old casters I had been holding onto for no good reason. But anyway, good video!
Thanks for the info
Edison was a jerk, Tesla was the true genius. // Great video. I sometimes forget I can use metal in projects because I'm hyper focused on wood all the time, this is a good reminder of using the right tool for the job.
I hear ya on the Edison/Tesla debate! It's all about using the right tools, right?
Thanks for the info. And more importantly, the much needed laughs !!!!
Oh yeah...looking forward to the next video 😜
Edison found that one invention out of 10,000 that's worth stealing.
@@elmouto3883 Yep :-)
I bought a (not cheap) steel caster base for my 14” bandsaw. The levers to engage the casters are plastic and less than 5”. Both plastic levers broke after only a few uses. Money down the drain. I need to make something like yours.
I know that feeling, sometimes cheap parts are the worst kind of expensive.
I have absolutely no complaints with mine
👍
Great video and great concept. Easy, cheap and effective. That also means you won’t make any money from it. 😂😂
Yeah, that’s probably true… I’m ok with that
@ Well if you ever develop it into something more than a diy item, I’ll buy one from you. ❤️
Great idea!!
Thanks!
Great idea!
I think so too!
That's a fulcrum good idea.
I like where your head’s at. 😁
Good stuff!
Thanks!
nice work
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent idea and video. Change the title for it to be easier to find. You might get more hits.
@@normandcharette2794 what title do you suggest?
@@BustedKnuckleWoodworks I came up with better stronger easier workbench caster
Merci 🤩. Un abonné suplémentaire 👏💪
Merci et bienvenue ☺️
Now you tell me?! My order just arrived!
@@wh0tube sorry 🤷🏻♂️ 😉
@ no problem, as a way of compensation I will leverage (i.e.: steal) your ideas and incorporate the trash casters I just received into them! 😁
@ that would be interesting. Send pics if it works!
Regarding your new Naked Wood Working show: will it be on in the morning? 😂😂😂
Late late late night only!
I did something very similar 30 years ago
Edison invented the light bulb the same way steve jobs invented the computer.
He didn't.
@@Six_Gorillion so I’ve learned
I like it!
Thanks 🙏
never forget Edison didn't invent the lightbulb (or anything else for that matter) he just owned the company where the inventors worked.
True, many have mentioned that
Take the trash lift casters and bolt levers together with a piece of metal. One foot and both casters go up and down at the same time. I would include a picture but I'm an old guy with NO techno savy!
That’s exactly what I showed like 20 seconds into the video
I feel like I have seen this design before
I suppose it’s possible
As for the casters, rotate the wheel IN instead of out as you did... and then it works easy. I dont mind that one lifts before the other.... Give it a try! Much better than the way you were doing and no extra work.
I think your project was great though and I enjoyed it a lot. Probably won't change my casters though.
@@arick_mnc that’s fine, no worries
I remind myself they are there and then proceed to trip on them every few mins.
😂
Good thinking you have there, you, thinker…
Pro tip: fast-forward to 8:00 to skip a whole lot of filler.
@@rivernet62 and miss all of my brilliance?
glorious - 🤪
The caster are not trash and work very easily. No need to add a metal spike to side of your work bench.
Okay 🤷🏻♂️