Being raised in "The Order" AKA "The Kingston Clan" - Amanda Rae's Story - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Find out what it was like for Amanda Rae to be raised in the polygamous group called "The Order".
Part 2 will be coming Friday, December 10th.
Check out our other video with Amanda Rae comparing "The Order" with the FLDS HERE:
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Tour of my Hometown: • Tour of My Polygamous ...
Sleeping Arrangements: • Sleeping Arrangements ...
What it's like for polygamous girls: • What It's Like For Pol...
What is it like for polygamous Mothers?: • What It's Like for Pol...
How do such big families survive financially?: • How Polygamous Familie...
What are FLDS views on race?: • FLDS Views on Race
My spiritual journey since leaving the FLDS: • My Spiritual Journey S...
Why and How I left Polygamy: • Leaving Polygamy: My H...
What it was like to grow up with 4 Mothers: • Growing Up In Polygamy...
What it was like to grow up wtih 34 siblings: • Growing Up In Polygamy...
Who in my family still believes: • Leaving Polygamy: Who ...
Is there arranged marriage?: • Growing Up in Polygamy...
Biggest culture shocks: • Leaving Polygamy: Cult...
What my education experience was: • Leaving Polygamy: From...
How Warren Jeffs became a prophet: • Leaving Polygamy: How ...
FLDS and the law: • FLDS vs. The Law
Why we didn't believe Warren Jeff's confession: • Warren Jeff's Confessi...
How we met: • How We Met...And Re-met
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I worked for the "Family stores" factory outlet, super circus, all owned by the order. I even dated a Kingston. That guy was the most emotionally stunted child adult. It was unbelievable what this family was like... Glad I RAN!
Well, pressuring mothers to have a child a year definitely insures a cheap workforce and down the road, LOTS of people to tithe to the leaders. I love how articulate the guest is.
Which is ridiculous. There's a lot of complications from getting pregnant less than a year after giving birth. Most obstetricians recommend waiting 18-24 months before conceiving again.
A child every year is also a GREAT way to keep the woman physically weakened, too exhausted , marginally malnourished and mentally frazzled to rebel against the sicko, controlling “husband” she shares with multiple other women.
I can't imagine the toll on the women's bodies. It takes me 3 years to feel back to normal
I love your videos! My boyfriend lives in Colorado City and left FLDS when he was kicked out at 14 and he is literally the most amazing man I have ever met. He is such an inspiration just like you guys!
🙏🎵💜
I’m glad you are continuing this series with Amanda very interesting! Religion can really separate a family! My husband had a rocky relationship before we got married but when his dad refused to come to our wedding that was the last straw for my husband and he hasn’t spoken to him for 18 years! His dad is Muslim and I’m Methodist/Christian. He’s very disappointed in his children since no one has married
/are involved with any Muslims. He disowned his daughter because she married a black man! It’s very sad that his religious beliefs has made him not have relationships with his 4 children!
Absolutely fascinating, and heart breaking all in one. Thank you for answering hard questions, and sharing feelings so honestly, and with respect to each others experiences. Looking forward to part 2.
Thank you so much and thanks for watching! =)
Thank you all so much for this long waited collaboration
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@@GrowingUpinPolygamy I wouldn’t miss it
I love these collabs! Makes me miss escaping polygamy a little less💗
Same! Lol
I read this as “makes me miss polygamy” at first LOL
@@mads597 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah definitely no!
Great interview! I almost didn't watch it because I've listen to Amanda's story a few times but you guys asked questions I haven't heard her answer before. Awesome collab!
Loving all yalls collaborations! 🥰
Thank you! We love them too!
There is something strangely therapeutic about exchanging experiences with people who have come out of similar cults.
You guys rock.
I wish you every happiness.
May you be able to help and inspire many others. ♥️
I'm really proud of you, Sam and Melissa, for highlighting this woman's experience. Kudos, Melissa, for speaking for all of us with your 'WHAT?' moment about the half-sibs.
I find it so interesting that Amanda doesn’t call the other wives’ children her siblings! I have a half sister and I think of her the same as a “full” biological sister. It’s crazy to see how different the dynamic is between The Order and the “normal world”.
It's because they date their half siblings in that cult.
Bc there's so many!
@@ginahatim3088good point.
Wow, that's so many mixed emotions for you as children in this situation have had to face! It is something that seems to become less hurtful with age and as you grow your own family as an adult, but as long as family is still in the cult it is a pain that doesn't seem to ever go away. My heart goes out to those who have to go through this.
It was my birthday this week. I've been celebrating since Wednesday night. I got sick (food poisoning?) early morning on my actual birthday, so I rescheduled everything. My stepmom got me a fancy purse. My uncle got me a Target gift card. My mom got me a new vacuum sweeper. Lots of good food too. We treat birthdays big time. My computer was part of my gift this year too. Happy holidays you two.
This was super interesting. I’ve even watched quite a bit of her story but I loved this format. Melissa you should be a corespondent on a show or something! You do an awesome job asking questions and interacting!
Aww thank you!
What a great episode; I remember this young woman’s story. This channel is so undervalued! You guys always ask and openly answer the hard questions.
Love Amanda Rae so happy you guys collabed. Thank you for being so open and sharing your stories!
Love your haircut, Melissa!
Thank you so much!
This is such an interesting interview/chat. I started obsessively watching “Escaping Pol” and am so curious about the women’s’ stories.
Made a wrong turn on the internet today and ended up here learning about brand new things I had never thought about. Thank you for sharing. Sidebar you are all so good looking.
Well we are glad you are here! Welcome! And thank you haha. =)
Treat women like breeders. How emotionally horrid to shame a woman for having a miscarriage- cruel !
No wonder his sister's mental capacity was "poor". Can you imagine the disgusting of being " engaged , married" to your own brother -UGH
Don't the Kingstons know the risks to the women and babies if the mother is constantly pregnant?
I loved listening to you guys on her channel and I love listening to her on your channel!
I love Amanda so much ❣️
There's a great book by an LDS author that shows that there's perfect harmony between the prophetic statements concerning the garden of Eden being in Missouri and the Old Testament account concerning the garden of Eden. It's called Canaan, Babylon, and Egypt A Comparative Theological Analysis on Creation sold by Eborn Books.
So interesting to hear her story as well! Loving the collaborations you all are doing together ❤️
Thank you so much!!
Enjoy when the 3 of you do videos and interviews together. It is interesting to hear about the 2 different groups and there similarities and differences.
Thanks for this and for all of your videos. I've learned so much from you 3 on this channel and on Escaping Polygamy. Please keep bringing the truth to light.
Idk how these women do this! I had two babies 12 months and two weeks apart it destroyed my pelvis muscles and nerves I can hardly walk some days it's been 5 years sense I also had another baby and I could never have more I would be done for!
In a sense of Gods energy, brothers and sisters rejoice and a wonderful feeling, to see you all look forward to seeing one again..
Thank you for explaining how the funding comes full circle, when you support eachothers business.. kind of like sponsoring a football team, the people in that team support the sponsoring business.
I just can't get my head around the wives working and raising kids.. children coming home from school to work. Our kids couldn't wait to get home from school and invite a few friends around, squealing and laughing jumping all over the trampoline and the play equipment. I'm so sorry you guys didn't get to do this..
The wonderful thing is now days - they have big swings and slides for adults and you're 'never too old' to have fun at the park..
😅🙌Good for Grandma's too!
Please please please do more videos with Amanda!!!! ♥️♥️♥️
You got it! =)
Great video!
Question: In the Kingston (sect/clan?) Are all children kept from knowing who their father is until a certain age? If so what is the reason?
oh heck yes! I love these collabs! you all are so awesome!
Thank you so much!
Can't wait for part 2!!
So if the expectation was to have a baby every year, what happened to women who had fertility issues and could not have children?
You mentioned Standard Restaurant Supply is a Kingston company. Is there a list of companies that support the Kingston clan? I would really like to avoid them.
Never mind. You just answered my question. It's on Wikipedia.
I plan on looking them up and avoiding them if at all possible!
Amanda introduced me to your channel :) what a wonderful group of people. I love the friendship chemistry, it’s so natural and real
Wow! Fascinating and heartbreaking!
Thank you all for opening up during these videos on both channels!
You guys posting last two days has made my lifeeee😍
You are soo sweet! =)
Melissa!!! Your hair looks adorable!!!! That cut suits you so well
Oh thank you! =)
You guys are fantastic interviewers! What a great interview overall. Great questions and great responses. So fascinating!
Thanks so much!
I'll honestly start a petition to make you guys upload at least two times a week!😂
Hahaha you just made our day! =)
Great interview
It's such an interesting topic. Great conversation, very professional. I'm so sorry that a church/cult tore your families apart, such an un-godly act, for a godly institution?! I was raised Catholic, not 'traditionally' practicing, but wanted to share something that the father of our church told me when I was quite young..... He said 'the only true religion is that which is untouched by mankind.' this has stood with me throughout my life... I believe in kindness and love and being a decent human and I believe in a greater creation, but today men seem to rule the church/ cults.... To sit and think about this shows me that what he said is so true. I wish you all so much happiness and love and kindness. Keep safe 🌻💛
I agree about men. The bible can be your solid rock.
Melissa your new haircut looks great!
Aww thank you so much!
I love the compare and contrast!!
They used to have holiday dances at Standard every so often. The Kingstons (men and wives) always looked like zombie wallflowers.
Melissa, love your haircut!! I just watched y’all on Amanda’s channel and me and my son just talked about all other religions the other day. I so agree with what y’all say!!! I really love y’all’s videos and how open y’all are! Thanks for sharing! Have a great weekend!
Aww thank you so much! Happy Holidays! =)
Thank you 😊
It’s sad that the FLDS appears more “normal” then The Oder lol.
Love to see you guys together again.🤩 Greetings from Germany
Love you guys together. ❤
At 2:00 when Sam his only reaction is to laugh cuz "my dad married his sister" is like totally normal.
I’m joining to hope that the babies were born of IVF. Not the DEED.
Theses are amazingly good stories to tell and getting off your chest I'm happy you're living your best life
Thank you!
Thanks for the video! Amanda is such a great speaker.
Our pleasure!
Imagine the doppelgangers you would see on a regular basis walking into that church every Sunday.
That was way to short! We need more. :)
Part two coming this next Friday! =)
❤️❤️❤️ great job you guys on the collaboration I've enjoyed your last few videos
Thank you so much!
Y'all need to start selling something because I will buy IT lol
I feel silly for trying to make light before finishing the whole video. What the heck
Haha thank you! Stay tuned! We are working on it right now! =)
Great video can't wait to watch part 2
This stuff is so interesting and so messed up.
Fascinating video. Thank you
.... We in Europe heard about Flds but I was not aware of the other polygamist groups. Can you make a "family tree" of Polygamy religion from beginning to today??? Thank you..... 300 kids..... Jesus. He is close to beat Charles II the merry King of England( about 350 illegitime kids). I'm curious do he knows all their names??? How do you secure a future for 300 kids??? 😱😱
AUB is pretty much the same thing as the order and they have a large congregation here and in UK. Religious cults are everywhere. 😬
AUB stands for United Apostolic Brethren, there's the Kingston group, countless others I'm sure, but those are two of the main ones
I have tons of questions, but first...how in the world do they fit 10,000 people in a warehouse/church??
Oh by the wat beautiful Christmas Tree
What happened to 'NO LIES SHALL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN'.
Awesome video!!!😍
I was born and raised as a Jehovah’s Witness and was the first to leave and I completely understand the shunning. People don’t understand how hard it is to leave, you loose everything, your family, friends, your community and the ‘’world’’ is terrifying as you’ve been brainwashed into fearing everyone. It’s quite a journey and you see alot going back because they feel guilty and lonely. Staying away and rebuilding yourself and your life is difficult but it becomes easier with time. It’s nice to know we are never alone, there is always someone out there going thru something similar.
Loved this!
Wait, what? A party at Wheeler farm??? We only did field trips there back in the day.
I love to watch the mainsteam mormons stories.. Lot ppl don't realizes that we are parts of this LDS histories.. those are beleive in Prophet Joesph Smith history.....Thank you for worthy to watch stories.. I will NEVER miss the stories..
Sam Jeffs(?) has crazy radio voice, seriously look into voice overs Sam!
Christmas 🎄
What about the fact that you can't take material things with you? LDS mormons believe you can take material things to the afterlife? Reminds me of ancient Egypt
I know it's not the point of the video, but your Xmas decorations are gorgeous!!!
Aww thank you! Happy Holidays! =)
Love this but get a digital mic
Fascinating
What show is she talking about???
I have a stepmom I call her by her first name. My mom has a boyfriend I call him by his first name. My nephew gets confused though?
I have a feeling Sam is uncomfortable with the word Cult, it’s funny how so much can be the same yet so different,
What the actual Fudge???????
I’m baffled that a woman raised on the outside would decide to join into a Plural marriage 😮
Um by the way
im splitting all marriage and only giving the youngest girls men to handle- and my boys will play with us and we will decide who gets to play- im the high priest of all churches and i am head of the mormon church i live in washington dc
True meaning of barefoot and pregnant!
If I had children, I'd only have one. (I still don't know if my sister wants more than one child or not?) My sister is 4 and 1/2 years younger than me, and I think her pregnancy was hard (did she have an emergency C-section, I don't remember). I'm childless by choice. I'm a girl so I can't pass on the family name anyways, so it doesn't matter.
Some people hyphenate the children's surnames, or make the child's middle name the mother's family name.
Just because one pregnancy was hard doesnt mean the rest will be. Having said that i completely respect that not everyone needs to have kids. In fact i wish we as society would stop asking people when they would have kids because it is such a personal question and it may not even necessarily be their choice to not have kids. Women are more than just birthing vessels.
Unfortunately in these groups the women don't have a choice. Birth control is not permitted and the women are expected to keep having kids until they reach menopause or they are deemed "unworthy" and sent away to live an isolated life and "repent", but that's a whole other video lol
I wonder if you learned Street Epistemology if you could have conversations with your families and convince them of their actual situation. Watch Anthony Magnabosco’s UA-cam channel once or twice and see if it might work with polygamists. It’s a definite possibility. Maybe your mom can be reasoned with to leave. This is a pretty successful thing you can learn. They are training people right now to learn this method. I think it’s free.
Is it easy to divorce in this group?
No, because after the first legal wife the others aren't legally married, they have no legal standing at all in the courts as far as child support, etc. They are basically concubines. However, the leadership can decide that a man isn't worthy of his wives and take them away from him, or the women can, in the eyes of leadership commit some "wrong" , have her kids taken away and be sent away to "repent" while living in isolation
This guy looks just like warren Jeff’s. I feel bad.
Too bad y'all can't get the other side of her story :) guess you will never know
I accidentally hit dislike 👎
I am loving the collaborations between you guys! Is Amanda still married? Sorry if that is a rude question. 🤍