I shot a custom built SVI Infinity 20 years ago when 40S&W was all the rage and individual mags had to be tuned to function. It was OK, but seems the 2011s were cultish until John Wick came along. My old man musings aside, your video makes me want to try a 2011 again!
Well, AF, that is just about the nicest comment I've received yet ... so THANK YOU very much ! I'm very glad my ramblings somewhat inspired you. Yes, I do feel that many quality pistol manufacturers have now made the double-stacked 1911s / 2011s (and the CZs, Sigs and other quality platforms that function so) the clear-cut pistols to own of today. If you know my channel, you know I'm not a fan of the countless polymer / striker-fired offerings. And, much as I truly do appreciate the aesthetics & 'purity' of traditional 1911s ... giving up that additional capacity at no cost just makes little sense to me. So I certainly do encourage you to find a beautiful, cool DS 1911 / 2011 that fits your hands, grip and natural shooting preferences well, and 'go for it'. I'm 99% sure you will not regret that decision one bit. The only hard part is finding that one that fits the above specifications really well - and at the price range you want too. As I do with all my friends, I'd be happy to give you some suggestions (after some needed input from you), if you want that. Regardless, thank you for commenting & participating. I hope you subscribe to my channel & find most of my content useful. TGIF & have a fantastic weekend ahead (with some shooting thrown in) !
idc about competition but for duty, conceal, really anything when it comes to edcing a gun, id take anything other than a staccato or just wait for the market to release more entry level guns. idk how you can justify dropping 3-5k out the door without a semblance of some buyers remorse for a carry gun, glocks have been the gold standard for a reason and their value is one of them. weird gray area for me cause i dont think your carry should be more than 1-2k, but the performance for 2011s is practically as good as turning cheats on, that alone is making me consider picking up a platypus or a ported bul. idk bro, 1-2k$ 2011s are still a p competitive market and tbh bul has insane value id rather give my money to them.
Thank you for your Comment, Luke - much appreciated ! Sounds like we are on the same page, even though that video was certainly about both of their pricey competition shooters. When it comes to EDC / Car / Carry, I 100% agree with you. Don't need anything fancy to protect yourself, family, innocent public. Just something that's going to work reliably (and still be pleasant & comfortable & accurate to shoot) - and manageable for the specific owner's abilities. As much as I love beautiful & expensive & amazing pistols - my car gun cost me all-in $1,250 all-in & my EDC was $500. You make very good points ! Cheers ! Thanks !
@@PBPistoleergreat vid. In this sequence I have carried 20 plus years daily. 1911 Smith titanium 38 G27 G19 G43 G43x 365 G19 365 legion Staccato cs All would get it done but none at the level of the staccato. Accuracy and times exceed everything else in my hands. I have my own range so I run drills every week. The staccato is just fun to shoot. If it’s affordable to the end user I highly recommend it if it is not a g19 is hard to beat. Getting my gun taken if I were to be in a shoot is the least of my worries. If that is part of the purchase decision you are shopping outside your comfort zone.
Thanks for Commenting, James. Well, you certainly have many more years than me experience in carrying (and having your own range makes me very jealous 😂). Without any question, Staccato is a whole other level than S&Ws, Glocks & even Sigs - so I both understand & agree with your ranking there. If you ever have a chance to get your hands on a Bul, definitely try it out. Some like Staccato more than Bul, others the other way & I view them as interchangeably excellent. I go with Bul as they are a bit less pricey at every level - though you have to be more patient in acquiring one. Thanks for watching / subscribing! Cheers !
I have a Radical 5.7 in 9mm along with a Staccato P and an XC. The Radical stacks up very well in my opinion to the Staccato's, with the longer barrel and sightblock my Radical feels like a 22 with handloads.
Thanks for the meaningful Comment, asierra. Nice collection you have there ! Yeah - my basic point is that I'm HIGHLY certain that the shooting experience between the XL Island Barrel & the Radical will be EXTREMELY similar (as I too recently shot the regular XL). Hence the doubt about the huge $1200+ difference in acquisition costs ... that'll buy you ~4,500 rounds of range ammo ! And I also believe pretty strongly that an undue % of would-be-interested customers don't even know the Radical exists. So, trying to help 'spread the word'. Cheers, my friend & thanks for the good interaction.
That looks more like a site block than an island barrel. I would also say that part of the pricing of the XL is that its a limited run and will likely have additional resale value. The XL is a more attractive gun than the radical (in my humble opinion) and that plays into the price. I would also say that because Bul makes quality guns at a discounted price they are much more difficult to track down than a Staccato. I'm not a Staccato fan boy. I have over 20 2011's. I look at most Staccato and Bul's as entry level 2011s.
Hey there, 2ANLA - Thanks for your smart, informed comment. I know your channel well & have seen a ton of your videos -so count me as a true fan ! Your positive, happy attitude shines thru on your channel - and your collection is flat-out impressive & beautiful. Indeed the Bul Radical is a sight block pistol - and the new Stacc is an island barrel. But they are both intended for the exact same purpose on an iron-sighted, Limited-division shooter - to add weight to the muzzle (muzzle rise reduction) and keep the front sight static (not moving with the slide) - so pretty much they're interchangeable. If you watch the only Short I've posted (with the Radical) you'll see it does seem to work - as I don't shoot any of my other pistols that flat (including the heavy & fantastic CZ TS2 Orange). I'm HIGHLY certain that the shooting experience between these 2 specific guns will be EXTREMELY similar (as I've shot the regular XL recently) - hence the skepticism at the $1200+ difference (that'll buy you ~4,500 rounds of range ammo to improve with !). And I also believe that an undue % of would-be-interested customers even know the Radical exists. I don't personally own any ported or comp'd pistols, as I'm using them more for competition & getting better - than for defense / range fun. But there are now so many hot 2011 versions of those - it's hard to keep track. You very very fortunately have a lot of them ! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend - and I view both the Bul & The Stacc pistols as stand-out bad-ass looking. Have 1 and would take the other (if free) in a heartbeat 😁. But I don't think that "prettiness" or calling something "limited addition" should boost a price way above very equal competitors. Indeed, Stacc has mastered the art of making their offerings extremely sought after - and 'must have' items - so kudos to them to marketing & commercial brilliance. Finally - Yes, I totally agree with you as far as availability. That's where Stacc has Bul beaten hands-down ! Again - thanks for the excellent Comment. A pleasure chatting with you. And all the best for your continued success - to a big time Rock Star in the field, from a fledgling newbie 😄.
Just in the past year has Bul started making all their pistol offerings with an optic cut from-factory. Before then, none of them were optics ready. Both of my Radicals are not cut - but I shoot iron sights / Limited division anyway. But still wish it was for the future when my eyes worsen & I inevitably have to make the switch. Anyway, if you order a Radical now (though I've heard rumblings they MAY discontinue this amazing, incredible model) - it'll certainly come optics ready w/ Bul's cool mounting system. Good luck & let me know if you do so. I know it's crazy to call a $3,090 USD pistol a bargain ... but it IS THAT GOOD. Unless you are an A / M / GM, you won't be able to tell the difference between this and a $4,500 - $6,000 semi-custom / custom. Cheers !
Thanks,, CD ! Hope you enjoy my occasional content. Yup - I just can't see any possibility that the new Stacc XL Island Barrel pistol can be any significantly better than our amazing Radical sight-block shooters - as they are SO similar. And paying a $1200+ differential for that just seems ridiculous. But many many many will do so, for sure. They probably don't even know the Radical exists - so I'm doing my part to spread that word. Cheers !
@@Dan-Chrssy Thanks for the heads up. He was a challenge acquiring this as they sold it to me with 9mm magazines but did not have that cal. At this point I am content with the 40 cal I just need to work on my grouping. ✌🏾
I have a P. I also have a Bul Tac 4.25 and Bul Air. I've also got an MPA DS9 Hybrid and Commander. Those are my 2011s. The P isn't a particularly good value when compared to the Buls. Neither are the MPAs, but they're nicer than the P. Anyway, the Bul Tac 4.25 goes toe to toe with the far more expensive P. The P's finish may be better but that's it. The Bul Air compares very faborably with the far more expensive MPA Hybrid. The Hybrid has a bit better fit and trigger but not by much. Their main differences are the Air's polymer grip vs the Hybrid's aluminum grip and the optic sits lower in the Air. That's my long-winded way of saying that Buls are crazy good values that compare very favorably with far more expensive US options. I can't decide if I like the P or Tac more or the Air or Hybrid more. They're that close. I do like the fact that Staccatos and MPAs are US made, and that's why I won them, but dang, the Buls do punch above their weight, and I'm searching for a Radical right now to try. I've no doubt it'd go toe to toe with an XC, especially if I had the sight block cut with a comp.
Well, first off, SEAK, you have a pretty sweet pistol collection there - so congrats on that ! Aside from the Buls & Staccatos - that MPA is hot & really really good, too. ! Thanks for your Comment & thanks for watching my channel. Yes - we are indeed of the same mindset as to value-for-quality in the Bul vs Stacc debate. Extraordinarily similar in their excellent quality - but Bul is lower priced in every category. So, if you can just be a little patient for delivery - and the USA build isn't a full disqualifier - then why not ? And, in that value realm - The Radical is truly exceptional for the $3090 msrp ... honestly don't think it can be topped by anything. I hope you get one soon ! Lemme know if you do & how it works out for you. THANKS AGAIN for participating ... shoot straight & fast ... and Cheers !
@PBPistoleer Sadly, it appears that Bul USA isn't selling Radicals anymore, so I'm stuck scouring the web for a used copy. I found one a couple of months ago, but it wasn't a good time to buy for me, so the hunt goes on...
Hi again, SEAK. You know - I've heard that Bul is going to discontinue The Radical 3 times now. But I still (tonight) see it on the Bul Armory USA website - though not in the Shop section. Did you try to call them in Miami to make a personal try ? Or something else ? I guess my 2 Radicals will become collector items. I guess if they do really discontinue it - then that'll leave only 3 non-custom sight block production guns being produced anywhere (Atlas Artemis @ $6,500, Atlas Nemesis @ $7,000 & and now this Limited Edition Staccato @ $4,300) I hope Bul has a few unsold for you (for an apparently mere $3,090) before they're gone. The sight block really does help in the flat-shooting, lack-of-muzzle-rise arena. Cheers !
@PBPistoleer I do need to call Miami. They're for sure still making them - they were shown at a recent European gun show. It looks like they made a decision not to sell them in the US anymore but I do need confirmation from Miami - good point. I was wondering if they plan on introducing a comped version to compete with the XC, etc. and that's why they older models aren't available but nothing was hinted at during that Euro show. My search will continue. I'll just have to control myself and not spend my Radical money on a Blaze when they come out 😉
Last points I can add ... (1) Blaze is a replacement for the Air, and I visibly don't see any difference - it might just be a name change, but maybe an upgrade or two. (2) They do have comp'd guns already - but not yet to compete with the XC. All their comp'd guns are for Open division - the Ultimate Racer, Ultimate Racer Shorty, Spitfire & Bullesteros. (3) BUT - sometime in 2025 they are launching a comp'd & ported - both - SAS Tac to compete directly with the Stacc XC. ua-cam.com/video/3Zdxkcmuo3g/v-deo.html
I have a staccato P and I enjoy it very much. I have tried to purchase a Bul, I just can’t because they’re always sold out. I tried to get the ultralight awhile back, and then recently the ultralight pro. I asked Bul to notify me if they become available but I’ve yet to receive anything.
Yes, indeed, Dee ... you have found / voiced the one definite & clear weakness with Bul's offerings - availability. I believe the current Israel Gaza war has made things even worse for the past year, with so many citizens called to duty. But it's never been a plentiful & readily available situation, and that's turned off several people ... including my best shooting buddy, who also turned instead to a Staccato P, and absolutely loves it, and shoots it extremely well (now his main Limited Optics pistol). I do hope my main point came across - that they are BOTH fantastic & roughly equal offerings at all sizes & purpose levels. And paying a $300-to-even-$600 difference doesn't matter much, given one's personal preference. But $700 - $1200+ is just too crazy a spread for me to have not weighed in 😁 with my opinion. Still, I didn't bring up your very good point about availability - and that's totally legit (and the MAIN reason my buddy ended up going with his Staccato - and countless others, as well.) Thank you for weighing in ! Cheers !!!
Recently purchased a Sig Sauer P226 X5 Legion.....I have rented the Stacatto XC at my gun range 4 times and have probably put 500 rounds through it - without a doubt one of the most enjoyable guns on the market to shoot, love that gun, not the price!!! The day I bought my Sig, once again rented the Stacatto XC as well as the Stacatto P alongside the SiG P226 X5 Legion. The Sig blew me away as to how comparable it shot to the Stacatto XC, don't believe me, go rent the 2 & shoot them. The Sig X5 Legion has less recoil and shoots BETTER than the Stacatto P hands down, no question..........I love what I am hearing on the BUL Armory guns and will buy their new combination comp - ported gun they will be releasing in 2025 per gun con!! The Sig X 5 Legion is a better gun than the Stacatto P...............
I would go Cz if I was going to go for a competition gun,Staccato is way to overpriced in my opinion.I mean they’re very nice,but not for that price if you ask me.
Thanks for the Comment, Dave ! I fully agree with your opinion. If you watch my other videos, you'll see that the new CZ TS2O is now my heavy-use competition gun for Action Steel in the Limited division. And the Bul Radical will become that if I progress up to qualify into the B or A level. I believe that CZ & Bul give you the absolute best shooting-experience-and-value-for-cost equation of (literally) anything on the market today. Cheers & keep shooting straight !
Just to be fair - the difference will not be $1200. It will be $1200 minus $400 for 3 MBX magazines as BUL ones will fall apart just in 2 months if you training for competitions and do reloads and drop them. Also every repair/service with staccato will take weeks vs months with BUL. Also I would strongly recommend to test fire both before buying as even they have many similarities, they feel very different and one may fit you much better than other. Brand wise you can’t go wrong with any of those two - they both are great brands who deliver great products.
Thanks for your informed, thoughtful reply ! Agreed - can't go wrong either way - GREAT pistols. And I hope that point did come thru in the video - as I'm certainly not one to throw shade at Staccato's
I have had literally the opposite experience. Bul mags with TTI plates have literally never given me issues shooting 1-2 times a week for three years. I have gone through 4 MBX mags that either fell apart or had terrible fitment issues. Guess it’s a per user thing
Don't forget that with a Staccato you are paying for multitudes of free guns donated to influencers on YT. the customers are paying for the ultra hype rather than the actual quality of the gun. KnifeMaker
@@michaell397 Thanks for commenting, Michaell. Haha - that's a good one ! As I do think that Staccato makes damn fine pistols ... and very much equal in pretty much all ways to Bul ... I'm not going to rag on them, or throw any shade. BUT, I do agree with you completely that the hype vs reality has gotten quite out of control - and not remotely worth anything nearly approaching a $1,200 differential for a nearly identical offering. Then again, kudos to Stacc for being able to sell such more-than-fully-priced products quite readily to the public. I am a full-blown democracy-loving capitalist - so that has been impressive. Cheers, my friend.
Thanks, Keith. Yup - I don't shoot anything else (I own) that flat - and even the new, heavy CZ TS2O doesn't seem to be in the same neighborhood. The Radical makes shooters (me included) look good :) And, the only pistols I've shot that compares to it are the Laugo Alien - and higher-end ported & comp'd stuff. Cheers !
Buls head is getting too big. They think theyve caught up to staccato. They are upping the price and downing the quality and people are still eating it up. Smh.
Thank you for watching & commenting, BedBass - much appreciated ! Wow - while your situation is certainly going against the far majority of what I've been hearing - the fact that you feel disappointed by your new Bul is legit & bothersome (I'm sure). These are all premium & premium-priced pistol ... and the Quality Control should reflect that. My suggestion - get in touch with Bul USA in Miami & see if / what they can do for you. Tell them you've bought previous Buls & are truly disappointed in the Fit & Finish of your new Tac 4.25 Pro - and that it's just not up to par for such a pricey offering. Maybe they can do something for you ? Maybe they can't ? But give that a chance before quitting on the brand permanently. Just saying what I'd do. Good luck to you, sir ... and thanks again for your feedback. All is useful !
The BUL Could be a better gun and cheaper, I would still buy the Staccato for the fact its made in America by American workers and the company support's Law Enforcement with profits from the company. End of Discussion for me, I would much rather the money I spend feed a family here in America and put funds into our officers hands. But you do you
And that, Mr. Hawk, is a good & legit & smart & solid point you make. I am (literally) a supporter of LE here in Florida - am fully behind our 'men in blue' nationally - and US military personnel, as well. Wasn't commenting (obviously) on that aspect in any way - as I failed to note it. But I did say & made many positive points re: Staccato - wasn't slighting them at all - and think they are a superb company. Was doing a simple gun-to-gun comparative - and re: financial value specifically. Different people define 'value' in different ways. And I certainly respect your American & LE values being at the top, good sir. Cheers !
My 4.25 tac pro slide to frame fit and barrel to slide fit/ lockup is trash for the 2500 paid. Idgaf what anyone says. My xc's tolerance is far superior. My prodigy's barrel lockup has zero play compared to my tac pro. I wont buy another. Js.
I shot a custom built SVI Infinity 20 years ago when 40S&W was all the rage and individual mags had to be tuned to function. It was OK, but seems the 2011s were cultish until John Wick came along. My old man musings aside, your video makes me want to try a 2011 again!
Well, AF, that is just about the nicest comment I've received yet ... so THANK YOU very much ! I'm very glad my ramblings somewhat inspired you. Yes, I do feel that many quality pistol manufacturers have now made the double-stacked 1911s / 2011s (and the CZs, Sigs and other quality platforms that function so) the clear-cut pistols to own of today.
If you know my channel, you know I'm not a fan of the countless polymer / striker-fired offerings. And, much as I truly do appreciate the aesthetics & 'purity' of traditional 1911s ... giving up that additional capacity at no cost just makes little sense to me.
So I certainly do encourage you to find a beautiful, cool DS 1911 / 2011 that fits your hands, grip and natural shooting preferences well, and 'go for it'. I'm 99% sure you will not regret that decision one bit. The only hard part is finding that one that fits the above specifications really well - and at the price range you want too. As I do with all my friends, I'd be happy to give you some suggestions (after some needed input from you), if you want that.
Regardless, thank you for commenting & participating. I hope you subscribe to my channel & find most of my content useful. TGIF & have a fantastic weekend ahead (with some shooting thrown in) !
Don't give me a dislike while I babble inanely forever before telling what the "controversy" is all about.
idc about competition but for duty, conceal, really anything when it comes to edcing a gun, id take anything other than a staccato or just wait for the market to release more entry level guns. idk how you can justify dropping 3-5k out the door without a semblance of some buyers remorse for a carry gun, glocks have been the gold standard for a reason and their value is one of them. weird gray area for me cause i dont think your carry should be more than 1-2k, but the performance for 2011s is practically as good as turning cheats on, that alone is making me consider picking up a platypus or a ported bul. idk bro, 1-2k$ 2011s are still a p competitive market and tbh bul has insane value id rather give my money to them.
Thank you for your Comment, Luke - much appreciated ! Sounds like we are on the same page, even though that video was certainly about both of their pricey competition shooters. When it comes to EDC / Car / Carry, I 100% agree with you. Don't need anything fancy to protect yourself, family, innocent public. Just something that's going to work reliably (and still be pleasant & comfortable & accurate to shoot) - and manageable for the specific owner's abilities. As much as I love beautiful & expensive & amazing pistols - my car gun cost me all-in $1,250 all-in & my EDC was $500. You make very good points ! Cheers ! Thanks !
@@PBPistoleergreat vid. In this sequence I have carried 20 plus years daily.
1911
Smith titanium 38
G27
G19
G43
G43x
365
G19
365 legion
Staccato cs
All would get it done but none at the level of the staccato. Accuracy and times exceed everything else in my hands. I have my own range so I run drills every week. The staccato is just fun to shoot. If it’s affordable to the end user I highly recommend it if it is not a g19 is hard to beat.
Getting my gun taken if I were to be in a shoot is the least of my worries. If that is part of the purchase decision you are shopping outside your comfort zone.
Thanks for Commenting, James. Well, you certainly have many more years than me experience in carrying (and having your own range makes me very jealous 😂). Without any question, Staccato is a whole other level than S&Ws, Glocks & even Sigs - so I both understand & agree with your ranking there. If you ever have a chance to get your hands on a Bul, definitely try it out. Some like Staccato more than Bul, others the other way & I view them as interchangeably excellent. I go with Bul as they are a bit less pricey at every level - though you have to be more patient in acquiring one. Thanks for watching / subscribing! Cheers !
I have a Radical 5.7 in 9mm along with a Staccato P and an XC. The Radical stacks up very well in my opinion to the Staccato's, with the longer barrel and sightblock my Radical feels like a 22 with handloads.
Thanks for the meaningful Comment, asierra. Nice collection you have there ! Yeah - my basic point is that I'm HIGHLY certain that the shooting experience between the XL Island Barrel & the Radical will be EXTREMELY similar (as I too recently shot the regular XL).
Hence the doubt about the huge $1200+ difference in acquisition costs ... that'll buy you ~4,500 rounds of range ammo ! And I also believe pretty strongly that an undue % of would-be-interested customers don't even know the Radical exists. So, trying to help 'spread the word'.
Cheers, my friend & thanks for the good interaction.
That looks more like a site block than an island barrel. I would also say that part of the pricing of the XL is that its a limited run and will likely have additional resale value. The XL is a more attractive gun than the radical (in my humble opinion) and that plays into the price. I would also say that because Bul makes quality guns at a discounted price they are much more difficult to track down than a Staccato. I'm not a Staccato fan boy. I have over 20 2011's. I look at most Staccato and Bul's as entry level 2011s.
Hey there, 2ANLA - Thanks for your smart, informed comment. I know your channel well & have seen a ton of your videos -so count me as a true fan ! Your positive, happy attitude shines thru on your channel - and your collection is flat-out impressive & beautiful.
Indeed the Bul Radical is a sight block pistol - and the new Stacc is an island barrel. But they are both intended for the exact same purpose on an iron-sighted, Limited-division shooter - to add weight to the muzzle (muzzle rise reduction) and keep the front sight static (not moving with the slide) - so pretty much they're interchangeable. If you watch the only Short I've posted (with the Radical) you'll see it does seem to work - as I don't shoot any of my other pistols that flat (including the heavy & fantastic CZ TS2 Orange). I'm HIGHLY certain that the shooting experience between these 2 specific guns will be EXTREMELY similar (as I've shot the regular XL recently) - hence the skepticism at the $1200+ difference (that'll buy you ~4,500 rounds of range ammo to improve with !). And I also believe that an undue % of would-be-interested customers even know the Radical exists.
I don't personally own any ported or comp'd pistols, as I'm using them more for competition & getting better - than for defense / range fun. But there are now so many hot 2011 versions of those - it's hard to keep track. You very very fortunately have a lot of them !
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend - and I view both the Bul & The Stacc pistols as stand-out bad-ass looking. Have 1 and would take the other (if free) in a heartbeat 😁. But I don't think that "prettiness" or calling something "limited addition" should boost a price way above very equal competitors. Indeed, Stacc has mastered the art of making their offerings extremely sought after - and 'must have' items - so kudos to them to marketing & commercial brilliance.
Finally - Yes, I totally agree with you as far as availability. That's where Stacc has Bul beaten hands-down !
Again - thanks for the excellent Comment. A pleasure chatting with you. And all the best for your continued success - to a big time Rock Star in the field, from a fledgling newbie 😄.
I missed out on the BuL Radical as I thought none came with an optics cut.
Just in the past year has Bul started making all their pistol offerings with an optic cut from-factory. Before then, none of them were optics ready. Both of my Radicals are not cut - but I shoot iron sights / Limited division anyway. But still wish it was for the future when my eyes worsen & I inevitably have to make the switch. Anyway, if you order a Radical now (though I've heard rumblings they MAY discontinue this amazing, incredible model) - it'll certainly come optics ready w/ Bul's cool mounting system. Good luck & let me know if you do so. I know it's crazy to call a $3,090 USD pistol a bargain ... but it IS THAT GOOD. Unless you are an A / M / GM, you won't be able to tell the difference between this and a $4,500 - $6,000 semi-custom / custom. Cheers !
Love my radical as well. In 40 s&w as the 9 mm were sold out. Thanks for sharing
Thanks,, CD ! Hope you enjoy my occasional content. Yup - I just can't see any possibility that the new Stacc XL Island Barrel pistol can be any significantly better than our amazing Radical sight-block shooters - as they are SO similar. And paying a $1200+ differential for that just seems ridiculous. But many many many will do so, for sure. They probably don't even know the Radical exists - so I'm doing my part to spread that word. Cheers !
They will sell you a 9mm barrel
@@Dan-Chrssy Thanks for the heads up. He was a challenge acquiring this as they sold it to me with 9mm magazines but did not have that cal. At this point I am content with the 40 cal I just need to work on my grouping. ✌🏾
I have a P. I also have a Bul Tac 4.25 and Bul Air. I've also got an MPA DS9 Hybrid and Commander. Those are my 2011s. The P isn't a particularly good value when compared to the Buls. Neither are the MPAs, but they're nicer than the P. Anyway, the Bul Tac 4.25 goes toe to toe with the far more expensive P. The P's finish may be better but that's it. The Bul Air compares very faborably with the far more expensive MPA Hybrid. The Hybrid has a bit better fit and trigger but not by much. Their main differences are the Air's polymer grip vs the Hybrid's aluminum grip and the optic sits lower in the Air. That's my long-winded way of saying that Buls are crazy good values that compare very favorably with far more expensive US options. I can't decide if I like the P or Tac more or the Air or Hybrid more. They're that close. I do like the fact that Staccatos and MPAs are US made, and that's why I won them, but dang, the Buls do punch above their weight, and I'm searching for a Radical right now to try. I've no doubt it'd go toe to toe with an XC, especially if I had the sight block cut with a comp.
Well, first off, SEAK, you have a pretty sweet pistol collection there - so congrats on that ! Aside from the Buls & Staccatos - that MPA is hot & really really good, too. ! Thanks for your Comment & thanks for watching my channel. Yes - we are indeed of the same mindset as to value-for-quality in the Bul vs Stacc debate. Extraordinarily similar in their excellent quality - but Bul is lower priced in every category. So, if you can just be a little patient for delivery - and the USA build isn't a full disqualifier - then why not ? And, in that value realm - The Radical is truly exceptional for the $3090 msrp ... honestly don't think it can be topped by anything. I hope you get one soon ! Lemme know if you do & how it works out for you. THANKS AGAIN for participating ... shoot straight & fast ... and Cheers !
@PBPistoleer Sadly, it appears that Bul USA isn't selling Radicals anymore, so I'm stuck scouring the web for a used copy. I found one a couple of months ago, but it wasn't a good time to buy for me, so the hunt goes on...
Hi again, SEAK. You know - I've heard that Bul is going to discontinue The Radical 3 times now. But I still (tonight) see it on the Bul Armory USA website - though not in the Shop section. Did you try to call them in Miami to make a personal try ? Or something else ? I guess my 2 Radicals will become collector items. I guess if they do really discontinue it - then that'll leave only 3 non-custom sight block production guns being produced anywhere (Atlas Artemis @ $6,500, Atlas Nemesis @ $7,000 & and now this Limited Edition Staccato @ $4,300) I hope Bul has a few unsold for you (for an apparently mere $3,090) before they're gone. The sight block really does help in the flat-shooting, lack-of-muzzle-rise arena. Cheers !
@PBPistoleer I do need to call Miami. They're for sure still making them - they were shown at a recent European gun show. It looks like they made a decision not to sell them in the US anymore but I do need confirmation from Miami - good point. I was wondering if they plan on introducing a comped version to compete with the XC, etc. and that's why they older models aren't available but nothing was hinted at during that Euro show. My search will continue. I'll just have to control myself and not spend my Radical money on a Blaze when they come out 😉
Last points I can add ... (1) Blaze is a replacement for the Air, and I visibly don't see any difference - it might just be a name change, but maybe an upgrade or two. (2) They do have comp'd guns already - but not yet to compete with the XC. All their comp'd guns are for Open division - the Ultimate Racer, Ultimate Racer Shorty, Spitfire & Bullesteros. (3) BUT - sometime in 2025 they are launching a comp'd & ported - both - SAS Tac to compete directly with the Stacc XC. ua-cam.com/video/3Zdxkcmuo3g/v-deo.html
I have a staccato P and I enjoy it very much.
I have tried to purchase a Bul, I just can’t because they’re always sold out. I tried to get the ultralight awhile back, and then recently the ultralight pro.
I asked Bul to notify me if they become available but I’ve yet to receive anything.
Yes, indeed, Dee ... you have found / voiced the one definite & clear weakness with Bul's offerings - availability. I believe the current Israel Gaza war has made things even worse for the past year, with so many citizens called to duty. But it's never been a plentiful & readily available situation, and that's turned off several people ... including my best shooting buddy, who also turned instead to a Staccato P, and absolutely loves it, and shoots it extremely well (now his main Limited Optics pistol).
I do hope my main point came across - that they are BOTH fantastic & roughly equal offerings at all sizes & purpose levels. And paying a $300-to-even-$600 difference doesn't matter much, given one's personal preference. But $700 - $1200+ is just too crazy a spread for me to have not weighed in 😁 with my opinion.
Still, I didn't bring up your very good point about availability - and that's totally legit (and the MAIN reason my buddy ended up going with his Staccato - and countless others, as well.) Thank you for weighing in ! Cheers !!!
Recently purchased a Sig Sauer P226 X5 Legion.....I have rented the Stacatto XC at my gun range 4 times and have probably put 500 rounds through it - without a doubt one of the most enjoyable guns on the market to shoot, love that gun, not the price!!! The day I bought my Sig, once again rented the Stacatto XC as well as the Stacatto P alongside the SiG P226 X5 Legion. The Sig blew me away as to how comparable it shot to the Stacatto XC, don't believe me, go rent the 2 & shoot them. The Sig X5 Legion has less recoil and shoots BETTER than the Stacatto P hands down, no question..........I love what I am hearing on the BUL Armory guns and will buy their new combination comp - ported gun they will be releasing in 2025 per gun con!! The Sig X 5 Legion is a better gun than the Stacatto P...............
Did you ever get to buy a Bul ? What model, if so ?
I would go Cz if I was going to go for a competition gun,Staccato is way to overpriced in my opinion.I mean they’re very nice,but not for that price if you ask me.
Thanks for the Comment, Dave ! I fully agree with your opinion. If you watch my other videos, you'll see that the new CZ TS2O is now my heavy-use competition gun for Action Steel in the Limited division. And the Bul Radical will become that if I progress up to qualify into the B or A level. I believe that CZ & Bul give you the absolute best shooting-experience-and-value-for-cost equation of (literally) anything on the market today.
Cheers & keep shooting straight !
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Just to be fair - the difference will not be $1200. It will be $1200 minus $400 for 3 MBX magazines as BUL ones will fall apart just in 2 months if you training for competitions and do reloads and drop them. Also every repair/service with staccato will take weeks vs months with BUL. Also I would strongly recommend to test fire both before buying as even they have many similarities, they feel very different and one may fit you much better than other. Brand wise you can’t go wrong with any of those two - they both are great brands who deliver great products.
Thanks for your informed, thoughtful reply ! Agreed - can't go wrong either way - GREAT pistols. And I hope that point did come thru in the video - as I'm certainly not one to throw shade at Staccato's
I have had literally the opposite experience. Bul mags with TTI plates have literally never given me issues shooting 1-2 times a week for three years. I have gone through 4 MBX mags that either fell apart or had terrible fitment issues. Guess it’s a per user thing
Also I have MBX mags for my LO staccato P and have literally had no issues
Don't forget that with a Staccato you are paying for multitudes of free guns donated to influencers on YT. the customers are paying for the ultra hype rather than the actual quality of the gun.
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@@michaell397 Thanks for commenting, Michaell. Haha - that's a good one ! As I do think that Staccato makes damn fine pistols ... and very much equal in pretty much all ways to Bul ... I'm not going to rag on them, or throw any shade. BUT, I do agree with you completely that the hype vs reality has gotten quite out of control - and not remotely worth anything nearly approaching a $1,200 differential for a nearly identical offering. Then again, kudos to Stacc for being able to sell such more-than-fully-priced products quite readily to the public. I am a full-blown democracy-loving capitalist - so that has been impressive. Cheers, my friend.
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Agreed
Watched your short, very nice and flat!
Thanks, Keith. Yup - I don't shoot anything else (I own) that flat - and even the new, heavy CZ TS2O doesn't seem to be in the same neighborhood. The Radical makes shooters (me included) look good :) And, the only pistols I've shot that compares to it are the Laugo Alien - and higher-end ported & comp'd stuff. Cheers !
Buls head is getting too big. They think theyve caught up to staccato. They are upping the price and downing the quality and people are still eating it up. Smh.
My 23' 3.25ul quality is far batter than my 24' 4.25 tac pro. Last year was worth it, this year...nah.
Thank you for watching & commenting, BedBass - much appreciated ! Wow - while your situation is certainly going against the far majority of what I've been hearing - the fact that you feel disappointed by your new Bul is legit & bothersome (I'm sure). These are all premium & premium-priced pistol ... and the Quality Control should reflect that. My suggestion - get in touch with Bul USA in Miami & see if / what they can do for you. Tell them you've bought previous Buls & are truly disappointed in the Fit & Finish of your new Tac 4.25 Pro - and that it's just not up to par for such a pricey offering. Maybe they can do something for you ? Maybe they can't ? But give that a chance before quitting on the brand permanently. Just saying what I'd do. Good luck to you, sir ... and thanks again for your feedback. All is useful !
The BUL Could be a better gun and cheaper, I would still buy the Staccato for the fact its made in America by American workers and the company support's Law Enforcement with profits from the company. End of Discussion for me, I would much rather the money I spend feed a family here in America and put funds into our officers hands. But you do you
And that, Mr. Hawk, is a good & legit & smart & solid point you make. I am (literally) a supporter of LE here in Florida - am fully behind our 'men in blue' nationally - and US military personnel, as well. Wasn't commenting (obviously) on that aspect in any way - as I failed to note it. But I did say & made many positive points re: Staccato - wasn't slighting them at all - and think they are a superb company. Was doing a simple gun-to-gun comparative - and re: financial value specifically. Different people define 'value' in different ways. And I certainly respect your American & LE values being at the top, good sir. Cheers !
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My 4.25 tac pro slide to frame fit and barrel to slide fit/ lockup is trash for the 2500 paid. Idgaf what anyone says. My xc's tolerance is far superior. My prodigy's barrel lockup has zero play compared to my tac pro. I wont buy another. Js.