Would be great if blizzard implemented the system, that after hitting lvl 60 on hardcore, you are given a choice: - Stay on hardcore servers and continue onward; - migrate to normal realm with special "Hardcore" character title.
I completed the challenge on a warrior last year, I got some tips that I hope will help you guys: -Green quests and mobs (3-5 lvls below) are king, always favour those over yellow quests and mobs -If you run out of doable quests don't jump into another zone where mobs are higher level, you're better off grinding green bois -Judge every quest you do individually, take into consideration a risk/reward ratio and decide if it's worth it, if it's not, dont forget you'll get that xp anyways from grinding fairly quickly -Don't go into caves you know to be sketchy and if you don't know, look it up first -Never get cocky, don't think you'll get away with every 30mins popping retal and sweeping strikes and pulling 6 mobs every time -EVERYWHERE you go, you must figure out an escape plan, whether it be a carved out path you made yourself by killing mobs or as simple as positioning -I strongly recommend engi as a warrior, since your only getaway tools are hamstring and intidimating shout, now you'll have grenades, target dummies and others which saved my life a couple of times, you can also farm dust devils in westfall for magic dust as an extra -Cooking is very important and you should always keep it up to date, having a stam/spirit buff all the time is very useful -Ideally you should pull mobs with a ranged weapon if there's a risk you pull more if you charge there -A ranged weapon can also be useful to cheese some mobs with pathing, so don't neglect a quality ranged weapon Thats what I loved about doing this challenge on a warrior, every single move you do has to have a strategy behind it, if you don't think and just zugzug it there's a good chance you're gonna die.
Wow classic was the first time I played any mmo, needless to say I sucked and lvled as prot war and I learned first hand all your tips are in fact very true and helpful!
I remember leveling a warrior in vanilla. It was pretty challenging. Died so many times(skill issue I know lol), but I enjoyed it. It was the class that really got me into the game.
Protip: HEROIC STRIKE IS A NOOB TRAP. Heroic Strike replaces your auto attack, costs rage - and PREVENTS THAT AUTO ATTACK FROM GENERATING RAGE. Spam Sunder Armor to 5. Hope your enemy dodges. Use Overpower.
Pro tip to aspiring brownies, rend and sunder armor are great when leveling, avoid heroic strike like the plague unless you’re rage capped and always stay in battle stance except for quick swaps to cast whirlwind etc. Rend is one of the best damage per rage abilities, it does fall off in the 40s though. Sunder armor is one of the only armor pen sources in vanilla, it makes your autos hit a lot harder and gives you more rage. Heroic strikes not only costs 15 rage but denies rage generation on your next hit making you really rage starved. The extra crit chance from berserker stance is generally not worth the extra 10% damage taken. And don’t use execute if you have a lot of rage, the rage you use to overkill a mob could’ve been spent killing the next mob much faster.
For the Arms leveling talent build I would recommend taking 2h Weapon Spec before Impale as it will actually increase baseline rage gen. Also Impale only works on crits with special attacks, so while gear is lower in quality the talent provides much lesser value than 2h Weapon Spec imho. I would also take a point out of Improved Overpower + Imp Hamstring and put them both into Improved Charge. You will use Charge hundreds upon hundreds of times while leveling, and that constant improved rage gain every 15s really adds up over time.
Dual wield and Heroic strike queue once you get a big main hand, usually Outlaw Sabre from BFD. You'll absolutely tear through mobs non-stop. The biggest argument against it is the lack of hit you have while leveling, but the chance to miss compared to the white damage is better than a 2h until you get mortal strike
Bit of misinformation (perhaps just misspeaking) I'd like to quickly clear up; 6:55 Actually it's not the distance from their "spawn point", it's the distance from their place of agro. Mobs such as Sharptalon, Shadumbra, and Ursangous in Ashenvale will spawn and follow a set patrol route that can actually stray quite far from the spawn point. When such a mob is agroed and then reset and then agroed again, the point at which the leash breaks changes because they have progressed further in their route rather than if it were from the fixed spawn point. 7:04 It's not an "invisible leash timer", it's measured using distance, mobs will not stop attacking you after a certain amount of time, you can do circles around the original agro location while leashing without getting hit indefinitely if you want.
@@NyctoGaming After some testing you are indeed correct there appears to be a set time they will stop following you while still in the leashing distance but not being attacked.
Sword spec is best. Almost all the good tanking weapons while leveling are swords, your extra swongs can crit so overall average more rage and it makes cool wooshing noises. Sweeping strikes, whirlwind, cleave, retaliation with sword spec just delete entire dungeon packs. Bonus, put blazing enchant on if Alliance, use thrash blade. Beautiful
It's true. Prot gives Last stand, 45% chance to stun with revenge (unique DR), concussion blow (5sec stun) and double shield block. Alternatively you can get 5% parry with arms and overpower but not much else until later levels because you won't be critting often and whirlwind isn't until 36. Fury is the clear choice for DPS single target if the monsters don't dodge but won't get going until enrage. Sweeping strikes is not always great for HC because fighting two enemies can be dangerous. I was using a 2h until 43 and was planning to swap to arms but then I got an epic shield and the damage with shield slam + 1h spec is quite good. Single target I do almost the same damage as 2h and with only 1 bandage every 4 yellow mobs.
Theres vids and builds for it, at least i found a few when i was playing through classic the first time around, specifically for leveling as prot. Were dungeon builds and leveling builds.@@referenceplz5547
I wish this guide was available back in March of 2005. I leveled as Prot. I figured that since I was dying all the time, that if I put more points in defensive abilities, it would help #newblogic
Warrior is a lot stronger in Classic levelling than anyone wants to admit. Strong passive armor and powerful auto attack with good weapon especially heroic strike removing hit problems, sunder removing enemy armor and demo shout being really strong at low levels. Tons of ways to boost survivability and damage passively through professions. Warrior is not good when getting out of problems, most of which can be avoided with smart gameplay and being prepared with consumes and an escape plan. Retaliation, shield wall and recklessness are the most powerful cooldowns in the game but long timers mean you need to be smart when to use them.
played mage in HC but died to storm minotaur bcs it resited 5 spells in a row, ran out of mana.. im thinking about taking a warrior in my next run actually.. I know that in their level exp its quite hard but well.. the zug calls me to arms
Guys, I’ve played warrior since vanilla and I still play warriors up to date. If you plan to lvl up warrior to swag after 60 pls dont. You’ll have the worst game experience there is and without a good willing guild you will be a fkng pest not being able to gather gear without help. The only time I have found warrior bearable was when I was playing with my GF as a shadow priest. So if you just aim 60 - roll ay other class. If you aim AFTER 60 - you might consider a warrior
People who tell you - don’t roll warrior are unfortunately right. They only shine in the end game with a proper gear. Leveling HC is anything but this. During vanilla I had a lot of fun tanking as furry but it does not count when you do HC and mistakes are not welcome
@WillE dudae, while I do like your content and im glad the channel keeps growing, and i respect ur knowledge of the game, you are bad at warriors. Your macro recommendations/bar layout are bad and misleading. You dont skill parry or even talk about it (kek). You dont talk about fishing at all , or any professions, and the addons are lacking. Please next time talk/research a knowledgeable warrior before you post a warrior vid. Since you do have pull on UA-cam, and i think you dont want misleading or even bad info on ur vids. I wish u the best!
World buffs should not be allowable in HC. There are too many other rules that I disagree with to begin to accept that. I think I would prefer pretty much only to have soul healers deactivated, but even player resurrections skills allowed. The only rebuttal that I've heard for this is "that it makes the game too easy". So why are world buffs legit then? You didn't farm it, you're getting it from other players. Disqualify!
One thing I've learned that can really help you is to do 2 starter areas (your own and another one of your faction) to get ahead in XP. Or grind out to level 8 if you don't mind grinding. Those 2 extra levels REALLY help and you'll still notice the effects when you move to your level 12+ zone
Another one is to completely ignore named quest mobs. The time spent waiting and trying to snipe the mob is worst than just farming mats or grinding exp mobs.
I think the one thing you missed was warriors get huge hp5 from spirit, like way more than any others. 30 spirit is like an extra 30 hp/2 so it's nice to have one or two pieces with spirit on it, it'll definitely save some silver and downtime when you don't have to eat all the time. And if you really want to go the extra mile, you could have a whole spirit set that you could macro-swap to to circumvent eating entirely, just don't be somewhere unsafe.
@@imnotagamer22 It's not a meme. Grab a few Of the Boar items for str+spirit and a big spirit weapon like odo's ley staff or psyan's old great sword. I didn't have to eat from lv23 to lv35 because i regen so fast.
@@Jackpkmn I lost the roll on that staff last night and the healer was complaining that it wasn't a Warrior-weapon BECAUSE of the Spirit. I told him that was the exact reason why I wanted it (also because 4-5 DPS more then what I had).
One reason I liked vanilla is that the best class at end game was the hardest class to level up. Unlike deathknight which skips 55 levels and is OP from start to finish.
If you aren't op by 55/58 in wotlk I'd say it's more to do with not having gear that matches them. Give those dks greens and they aren't so good. My 54 prot pally would be comparable in power, only behind in levels really.
Almost accidentally, I chose a warrior as my main during Classic when I was still 11 years old. I know it sounds silly, but I think being made to tank made me laugh a better leader and communicator in real life. I died sooooo many times though, lol
People underestimate how multiplayer cooperative video games can contribute to real life social skills. I attribute my leadership and team communication skills IRL to playing overwatch. Nothing could built my patience better
I feel the same way! I played feral and loved to tank dungeons. I think forming my own groups and being party leader for lots of 5-man and 10-man content helped me gain important leadership skills that I employ in my current job all the time. Decisiveness under pressure, playing to team members' strengths, and knowing how to communicate effectively. Super important skills that tanking can help you train!
No matter how painful the leveling is Warrior will always be my favourite. Other classes have magic, ranged or cunning tricks while Warriors are pure and simple. Get VERY ANGRY and hit stuff with BIG SLABS OF STEEL.
I don't trust the WoW community enough to a raid on a hardcore character. All it takes is for one person to think it'd be funny to run the bomb in the Baron Geddon fight into everybody for all that time to be wasted.
By the time you're raiding I would hope you know your guildmates well enough. Besides they too have put in the effort to level without dying and I doubt they want to throw that away.
i died 3 times on warrior until i level prot. spec from the beginning combating mobs in def stance. its slower, but you get a lot of revenge procs, combined with improved revenge and shield block, you almost get no damage. plus, you have last stance pretty early. it will be rare to level as prot, but its a marathon, not a sprint, and patience is the key. in addition, early range weapon for save mob pulls is the key as well as beeing an engineer for target dummies and stunning grenades
I've done the same. It's overlooked. Hp is much higher, added stuns. Adds only slightly more time because your not running a 2Hand. If someone likes tanking dungeons with their time, it's absolutely doable.
I just wish revenge did a little more damage. The talent points make it nice but still lacking in the damage. But yea. Leveling prot spec isn’t really bad at all. Screw the meta. Living is king.
I would actually recommend a warrior. Why? Because your actions matter. If you mess up: You messed up. So you need to think about every pull. It teaches you how to play well and to use everything you have. Also: Some rather surprising, good early game weapons. Both the Deadmines and the Wailing caverns have a quest to defeat bosses that reward you with a Staff. That thing is extremely good for your level in terms of DPS and can easily last you until 30.
@@deadman0315 I think that alch/herb is a pretty popular combo as well for HC. Lot of buff potions you can have on constantly as well as infinite mana and health potions
Shaman is ridiculously hard to reach 60 in hardcore for some reason, made 6 of them and they all died in The Barrens. I don't understand why that is but on Hardcore my Warrior, Hunter, Mage, and Warlock I had a MUCH easier time than with Shaman (despite Shaman being my favorite class in WoW). Tried Enh, Ele, Resto.... something just always went wrong no matter what I did. I am doing a Priest run, then a Rogue eventually but I just will never understand why my Shamans always end up dead. I guess I subconsciously knew that I could heal so I'd get greedy but when shit hit the fan the healing just wasn't good enough to handle spike damage, then I'd go OOM. Earthbind totem would get resisted when it mattered most and I generally died before getting Frost Shock. I'll try Shaman in Hardcore again eventually but that class caused me to nearly quit Hardcore classic altogether.
A very tiny detail that could possibly help HC players is how to pull mobs in the world... You don't always have to charge in and risk pulling nearby mobs (asspull radius is sometimes greater than mob pull radius when it enters combat), SO it's sometimes HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to use your ranged throw or shoot ability to pull one specific mob, instead of charging it. Losing a bit of rage from not charging is better than losing your life on a horrific chain-pull accident (unforeseen consequences). Another tiny detail is, you need to remember some mobs run, SO it's always great to not just shoot a mob, but also drag the mob further away from its friendlies to like 50-60 yards, so you have some room to chase it after it starts to run. Try to remember/predict which mobs will run (usually humanoid mobs tend to run more than beast mobs. Undeads never run as far as i remember, but if you know of an exception to this please let me know, i'm curious.), and it's great to pre-hamstring mobs before they hit their run threshold. Not sure what that is, but it's around 15%-20%. One last bit of wisdom is, if you aren't sure if a certain mob will chainpull or not, it's worth starting your pull from that said mob, shoot it and see what it pulls with it. Sometimes it's better to see if it will be a catastrophic pull early and have time to run than to find out too late. Example: 2 mobs one of which you need will definitely pull together, but there's a 3rd mob that doesn't interest you in a sus distance away from the 2 and he is in turn in a sus distance away from a 4th and 5th mob that don't interest you. It's better to 'test' it by attacking the 3rd monster from range and being ready to run out (think of your route back and check if any patrols or respawning mobs are in the way, and test if the 3rd mob pulls 4th or 5th, or even 1st and 2nd. If the 3rd mob pulls 4 5 you run. run like the wind. Possibly look for another place where you can find mobs 1 and 2 where it's safer. If it pulls 1 and 2 but not 4 or 5, you might consider pulling them back a bit and killing all 3 if you feel you can handle it, but if nothing pulls it's probably best to pull it back a bit and kill it so as not to risk pulling 45 with 12 when you pull.
I highly recommend NOT putting Points into Rend DW Impale, because a) Rend falls off after lvl 20 even with this talent and wont be used b) DW and Impale (which deals shittsy damage anyways) are random proc and can break your fear in the worst moments. Rather spend these points to get 5/5 parry and improved charge
Rend is your best damage per rage early on providing decent damage during your early levels. Later on deep wounds damage will be quite substantial since you’ll crit a lot with 10% crit from talents and 50% crit on overpower.
I started the hardcore aventure with a warrior around 2 weeks ago. I am now lvl 28. So far, so good. The only times I almost died were because of random disconnections, other players or because of roaming elites that surprise you. The rest is just chill. I'm maxing professions asap all the time (alchemy+herbalism and all secondaries). Always potted, always food-buffed. I feel like a beast. Fingers crossed for what is coming past 30 😅
Alchemy/Herbalism is GOATED on hardcore, without it things are easily twice as difficult. I tried other professions and you just can't beat the speed pots and an infinite supply of healing/buff pots.
Pro-tip, always keep all professions, especially cooking & first aid, at max level if you choose to play a classic warrior. Makes the level process so much easier
On a warrior, the key to the first 20-30 levels is to have a decent amount of Spirit on your gear. Spirit give you a very big amount of health back when out of combat. Also stacking Agility is way better then stacking Strength (Crit % is better then dealing a minute amount of extra damage per hit)
@@Andrewz167 You don't want to go overboard with +Spirit on gear. You just have a couple items with the 'of the Boar' or 'of the Wolf' affix for the +Spirit. If you needed 5-7 more Stamina to survive... you should not have pulled that mob in the firstp lace. The extra say 15-20 Spirit you gater by having 3-4 pieces with some extra Spirit (use some Stamina/Spirit food as well) will make you regen over 40 hitpoints every 2 seconds when not incombat which makes you a lot more efficient in leveling without the need of a lot of food/potions. When tanking dungeons you want to swap those Boar/Wolf pieves for either Bear/Monkey obviously since Spirit doesn't do much/anything in there when tanking.
I wish I could have had this video, back when I tried Classic. I played a warrior, something I never got around to back in vanilla, but found the level up experience really tricky. This guide would for sure have helped, even though I wasn't doing a hardcore run.
Also go furry for piercing howl, most life saving ability, allows to kite as many mobs without being in range of melee. Dont execute mobs or use rage ability’s that would do overdamage when a white hit would kill them, build up rage instead.
They truly are. I'd say warriors and mages are by far the most fleshed out classes in the game and it's not even close. I've tried other classes but always quit them by level 30 because they just feel too convoluted with a bunch of niche skills and they just seem too spread thin across the board. I would say Priests are somewhat decent as well but I personally can't stand healing in video games so I'm not a fan of them. Warriors have three very good trees, one focused purely on damage, another on defense, and another is a mix of the two and they each play very well in their own ways and the arms warrior is probably my favorite talent tree in the entire game for levelling. Being able to just charge mobs and chain-kill as well as pull from a distance (unlike paladins) and hamstring/intercept those who attempt to escape is just amazing and the "oh shit" skills like retaliation are badass when your backs against the wall. Yeah, warriors might not have skills like vanish or lay on hands and require more attention and situational awareness but as long as you don't overextend yourself before knowing the area and the spawn locations and keep your potions and scrolls on you you can get through nearly anything save for groups of elites or rare elite roaming mobs which require a hamstring and speed potion to survive generally. I got a warrior to 60 on hardcore and it was very rewarding, lost a good 8-10 toons around the level 20-40 range but after you hit 40 and start gearing up in plate armor and don't get too cocky it just gets easier and easier. Easily my favorite WoW class ever and the others don't even come close other than frost mage which is also a masterpiece class/talent build.
I like it. You have a whole new market in classic wow vids going through hardcore class;s. Then dungeons, areas etc. Good job I love having your vids on background while i play my wow
The Stages of a Hardcore Warrior: Stage One: Baby’s First Warrior: You’re curious how hard it will actually be. This is either your first Classic Warrior or you mained one before and want another go with Hardcore. You might die early and move on but if not then Stage Two is for you. Stage Two: Determination: You’ve failed a few warriors by this point and now want to at least get a few zones in. At some point you may debate picking up a duo to make it easier or you’ll just continue on solo. Stage Three: Heartbreak: You’ve probably made it to at least Level 30 by now and just lost your Warrior. It’s at this point you truly wonder if being a Warrior is worth it. You will either soldier on or make a new class. The choice is up to you. Stage Four: Success: You did it. You reached level 60 on the hardest class to do it. Now comes a choice. Do you continue into raiding or do you stop playing the toon and start collecting level 60s? Stage Five: Vaelastrasz the Corruptor: You’re a tank. You knew this was coming. I hope your guild knows a trick and don’t expect you to fall on your *insert one hander here* for them to progress.
I recommend to any warrior to go fury dual wield and spamming heroic strike. Don't do the cyclonian quest. You have very good one handed weapons lvl 40. Try to get the sword from the RFD quest and the sword from "into the scarlet monastere" and you will be insane. More than cyclonian holder.
Few great tips stancedancing through macros is amazing. Example: /cast berserker stance /cast whirlwind (works great for battle stance+overpower too) or /cancelaura bloodrage /cast battle stance /cast charge pre lvl 30, heroic strike and rend have amazing dmg/rage value. keep in mind that heroic strike ''consumes'' or empowers your next auto attack; instead of auto-attacking, you will heroic strike, netting you higher damage but no rage. this means that, especially at lower level, sword and board isn't that bad. although a 2-hander better, using a shield 1-16 as a troll, nelf, gnome, or human, isn't the end of the world at all; more value from heroic strikes (as the static dmg is not influenced by weapon dmg, a quicker main hand is amazing for heroic strike), and if your attack doesn't land - either it's blocked, parried, dodged, or it misses - it doesn't matter as much as it does with a slower weapon. a 3.5 second weapon can miss three times in a row over 12 seconds and mean death, a quicker 1.5 weapon will more quickly approach the averages of your chance to land or miss a hit, and your target's chance to avoid it. in other words, a quicker weapon mitigates mitigation. slow weapons are the best, but heroic strike at lower levels is insane, making quicker weapons extremely viable too! most importantly: hamstring kiting is the best thing there is. as your auto's do about 2-3 times as much dmg as the things you're fighting. considering your hp is higher than most mobs, you will be able to chain-pull without issues, and the game changes from ''stand and hit'' to ''wow i actually have to do things and it matters''
Leveling as a warrior is ALWAYS should be arms!!!! or prot for tanking dungeons.. but NEVER level fury! ever!!! you can even duel wield as arms and it still better to level arms duel wielrding than fury. your miss chance is just too high and u dont do enough damage. with Arms the over power talent aloneeeee is HUGE... the Over power crit will always hit enemies for 1/3 to 1/4 of their HP. And duel wielding arms ur offhand wep if its quick can make enemies dodge it for a sweet overpower crit. i shriek when i see fury leveling.. its so bad
I'm not recommending Fury because Arms is probably better, but I will say I think Piercing Howl is really underrated in hardcore. It's very good for the situations where you get in trouble, IE mob respawn/mob from behind/need to run with multiple things on you or your group. AOE 50% slow.
Ive died on 4 warriors now. Lvl 7,12,14,16. All my fault, i get a good 2h and feel like i can do more and get over confident every time. Leveling up my priest to funnel money into my next warrior.. do yourself a favor and dont risk it early levels lol
Just level a Druid and bear tank while leveling. You don’t want to raid at 60 anyways. Just enjoy the grind and do some fun dungeons at 60 and enjoy life.
Another point for fury is the lack of deep wounds which enables you to always get a full bandage using fear + bandage or running away with it. Also I'd argue tanking as fury is sweeter since you get enrage + speed, and I've found the best way to tank is to try and maintain a rage pool throughout the whole dungeon that you spend at start of pool then save up again. Great video!
@@timschmieder3461 usually you can switch between all three if you are not minding to maintan rage (you can charge as arms stance, ww on fury then switch to prot stance) but if you wanna maintain rage you can stay as prot stance and just sunder/demorolize and then taunt to keep all mobs on aggro.. you can pull with shooting too
pro tip: just spam sunder armor after rending your target. it doesn't reset your swing timer and it procs a lot of overpowers + the armor reduction actually adds notable damage output. SA has been proven to be better than HS spamming.
Why don't you use sunder for your warrior. Thats and rend is basically all you use up to 40. Also you dont say anything about heroic strike queue and how you can use it take make your OH always hit as long as heroic strike is queued when your oh swing goes out. You can turn it off and on with /stopcasting macro.
I can't understand how I kept playing WoW back in 2007 when my first character was a warrior and I had no idea what talents mean, nor what weapons I should use. Probably this is the reason why it took me around 40 days of /played to reach level 60.
I just leveled a fury/prot warrior and it was the best as far as fun!!!! I had never played a warrior before and I fell in love 😻. If you want to kill mobs on the way to ur next location use charg its the warriors blink plus taunting u have 2 charges and a taunt so u can kill fast! It took me a month to level to 80. When i would go into an area i was usually finished before anyone else got started lol. AND dont get me started with Prot PVP 😂 u wanna have a smile that wont stop till the end well that’s the warrior! Unfortunately I started leveling a Disc Priest after. So best tip..dont ever try and level anything else after ur warrior they pale in comparison as far as speed.I’m actually considering making my first twink with the priest at 59 bc yea lol. I guess those two 2 handed weapons in fury really are bis in itself 👏. Blizzard has also announced a glyph change for shattering throw so u eont have to change stances to use to be able to use. Good luck!
Two more small tips for warriors; sunder armor is more dps then heroic strike if the mob is going to live more then 4 auto attacks and good weapons can drop from specific mobs in most zones. Ogres in general tend to have a weapon or two that only they can drop in the zone that is very good for warriors.
Good call on the weapons! Most of these guys are just repeating the same weapon path but never give mentions of things like Gargoyle Bite and the other farmable weapons.
One tip I have is to get comfortable with stancedancing. Bind Tab to the last spot in your stance actionbar. When in Battle stance, put Berserker stance in that slot. Enter Berserker stance and put Battle stance in that same slot. Now you can switch between Battle and Berserker stance very quickly and easily. You can also change the setup to switch between Defensive and Berserker stance for tanking. So Battle -> Defensive Berserker stance. I don't know what classic looks like, but in the old days, stancechanging (and charge/intercept?) didn't trigger GCD, meaning you can pull off quite intricate manouvers with very little effort. Was also very useful when Taunt only had a 8 yard range. Keep in mind that your ragepool will take a hit from changing stances, but sometimes mobility is worth more than rage.
Well, I would argue that the reason most people struggle so much with warrior is that Arms and 2h are so ubiquitous. Fury and DW are infinitely better for leveling as soon as you get to 20. The hit reduction only feels bad. Statistically you generate more rage, deal more damage and are way less vulnerable to bad hit roll chains with a slow 2h.
Warrior was the only class I lvled in HC SoM...funny enough it's the only class I don't have a 80 of in wotlk besides mage. Been really considering lvling again and going full naked. Watching all these HC clips really got the itch going...and I need HC spiced up a bit. Edit: another good tip is to macro mouseover for your charge. Makes things easiest when charging away or if you fall and have a mob nearby, reducing the risk of misclicking the mob
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Nice format
Please to *Warlock* next
Would be great if blizzard implemented the system, that after hitting lvl 60 on hardcore, you are given a choice:
- Stay on hardcore servers and continue onward;
- migrate to normal realm with special "Hardcore" character title.
Turtle wow
It’s a good idea but then Era will be affected with a new title.
no thats exactly the same as osrs then u get every 5 sec Im iRoN mAn BtW
I completed the challenge on a warrior last year, I got some tips that I hope will help you guys:
-Green quests and mobs (3-5 lvls below) are king, always favour those over yellow quests and mobs
-If you run out of doable quests don't jump into another zone where mobs are higher level, you're better off grinding green bois
-Judge every quest you do individually, take into consideration a risk/reward ratio and decide if it's worth it, if it's not, dont forget you'll get that xp anyways from grinding fairly quickly
-Don't go into caves you know to be sketchy and if you don't know, look it up first
-Never get cocky, don't think you'll get away with every 30mins popping retal and sweeping strikes and pulling 6 mobs every time
-EVERYWHERE you go, you must figure out an escape plan, whether it be a carved out path you made yourself by killing mobs or as simple as positioning
-I strongly recommend engi as a warrior, since your only getaway tools are hamstring and intidimating shout, now you'll have grenades, target dummies and others which saved my life a couple of times, you can also farm dust devils in westfall for magic dust as an extra
-Cooking is very important and you should always keep it up to date, having a stam/spirit buff all the time is very useful
-Ideally you should pull mobs with a ranged weapon if there's a risk you pull more if you charge there
-A ranged weapon can also be useful to cheese some mobs with pathing, so don't neglect a quality ranged weapon
Thats what I loved about doing this challenge on a warrior, every single move you do has to have a strategy behind it, if you don't think and just zugzug it there's a good chance you're gonna die.
Ty friend! Lv 21 hc Warr here, be blessed 😎
Great advice, 👍
Great tips! Thanks for the insight!
Wow classic was the first time I played any mmo, needless to say I sucked and lvled as prot war and I learned first hand all your tips are in fact very true and helpful!
Thank you!❤ Great tips. Zugzug!
I remember leveling a warrior in vanilla. It was pretty challenging. Died so many times(skill issue I know lol), but I enjoyed it. It was the class that really got me into the game.
Would love to see priest next! Though truthfully I'd love to see you cover all the classic classes like this, its very entertaining
Protip: HEROIC STRIKE IS A NOOB TRAP.
Heroic Strike replaces your auto attack, costs rage - and PREVENTS THAT AUTO ATTACK FROM GENERATING RAGE. Spam Sunder Armor to 5. Hope your enemy dodges. Use Overpower.
Yep. Heroic strike is a waste of
Sometimes for a finisher in low lvl it’s nice because it‘s a yellow hit. If i‘m not wrong they have hit increase compared to white hits
Pro tip to aspiring brownies, rend and sunder armor are great when leveling, avoid heroic strike like the plague unless you’re rage capped and always stay in battle stance except for quick swaps to cast whirlwind etc.
Rend is one of the best damage per rage abilities, it does fall off in the 40s though.
Sunder armor is one of the only armor pen sources in vanilla, it makes your autos hit a lot harder and gives you more rage.
Heroic strikes not only costs 15 rage but denies rage generation on your next hit making you really rage starved.
The extra crit chance from berserker stance is generally not worth the extra 10% damage taken.
And don’t use execute if you have a lot of rage, the rage you use to overkill a mob could’ve been spent killing the next mob much faster.
Been having a lot of fun levelling as dual wield fury. It's not very powerful, but it has style, and I'm not playing to minimax on hardcore
Hs toggle brother
For the Arms leveling talent build I would recommend taking 2h Weapon Spec before Impale as it will actually increase baseline rage gen. Also Impale only works on crits with special attacks, so while gear is lower in quality the talent provides much lesser value than 2h Weapon Spec imho. I would also take a point out of Improved Overpower + Imp Hamstring and put them both into Improved Charge. You will use Charge hundreds upon hundreds of times while leveling, and that constant improved rage gain every 15s really adds up over time.
Thanks for all the great videos, Willie. Warrior is one of my favorite classes but leveling as hardcore is too extreme!
Did my first rfc as warrior and man hc really adds an extra uumphf into dungeons
I respect anyone who has the patience to level a hc warrior lol
Today I learned to pop sweeping strikes immediately when fighting a tough mob
Dual wield and Heroic strike queue once you get a big main hand, usually Outlaw Sabre from BFD. You'll absolutely tear through mobs non-stop. The biggest argument against it is the lack of hit you have while leveling, but the chance to miss compared to the white damage is better than a 2h until you get mortal strike
No you can actually HS on your offhand on classic, way better rage gen
Bit of misinformation (perhaps just misspeaking) I'd like to quickly clear up;
6:55 Actually it's not the distance from their "spawn point", it's the distance from their place of agro. Mobs such as Sharptalon, Shadumbra, and Ursangous in Ashenvale will spawn and follow a set patrol route that can actually stray quite far from the spawn point. When such a mob is agroed and then reset and then agroed again, the point at which the leash breaks changes because they have progressed further in their route rather than if it were from the fixed spawn point.
7:04 It's not an "invisible leash timer", it's measured using distance, mobs will not stop attacking you after a certain amount of time, you can do circles around the original agro location while leashing without getting hit indefinitely if you want.
Your second point is only partially correct.
It is distance related, but there is definitely a leash timer.
@@NyctoGaming After some testing you are indeed correct there appears to be a set time they will stop following you while still in the leashing distance but not being attacked.
What I don't like in classic is 30min cooldown for 10seconds and it's not even 100% protection.
Sword spec is best. Almost all the good tanking weapons while leveling are swords, your extra swongs can crit so overall average more rage and it makes cool wooshing noises.
Sweeping strikes, whirlwind, cleave, retaliation with sword spec just delete entire dungeon packs. Bonus, put blazing enchant on if Alliance, use thrash blade. Beautiful
Prot shouldnt be overlooked, especially in hard core. Its not that much slower and the survivability increase is huge.
It's true. Prot gives Last stand, 45% chance to stun with revenge (unique DR), concussion blow (5sec stun) and double shield block. Alternatively you can get 5% parry with arms and overpower but not much else until later levels because you won't be critting often and whirlwind isn't until 36. Fury is the clear choice for DPS single target if the monsters don't dodge but won't get going until enrage. Sweeping strikes is not always great for HC because fighting two enemies can be dangerous.
I was using a 2h until 43 and was planning to swap to arms but then I got an epic shield and the damage with shield slam + 1h spec is quite good. Single target I do almost the same damage as 2h and with only 1 bandage every 4 yellow mobs.
I am looking to try this, I cannot find guides for it. Any tips?
Theres vids and builds for it, at least i found a few when i was playing through classic the first time around, specifically for leveling as prot. Were dungeon builds and leveling builds.@@referenceplz5547
Pro Tip: Group with a healer. You'll both level faster, and have an easier time of it.
I wish this guide was available back in March of 2005. I leveled as Prot. I figured that since I was dying all the time, that if I put more points in defensive abilities, it would help #newblogic
BTW, does someone checked the Classic Era Servers? The Seasons Server are Full as F***
I just got mindblown about.
no reccmomdations of shields?
Warrior is a lot stronger in Classic levelling than anyone wants to admit. Strong passive armor and powerful auto attack with good weapon especially heroic strike removing hit problems, sunder removing enemy armor and demo shout being really strong at low levels. Tons of ways to boost survivability and damage passively through professions. Warrior is not good when getting out of problems, most of which can be avoided with smart gameplay and being prepared with consumes and an escape plan. Retaliation, shield wall and recklessness are the most powerful cooldowns in the game but long timers mean you need to be smart when to use them.
Is dual boxing allowed? Priest+Warrior might be good?
they did forbid multiboxing 3 years ago
Dude it’s hardcore and you’re asking if having a pocket priest is allowed lmao
Need the shaman and Paladin guide
Starting a warrior, is 2h fury viable for levelling?
what is the nameplates that you use?
I’ve done 2 warriors to 60 normal and 1 HC no quest self made and it was honestly SO much fun
Slam is very effective vs 1 mob having a slow 2h weapon. You only need to know when exactly applied it
No
Yes
Dual wield impale spec vs green mobs with imp overpower.
i got to 60 on mine =)
What's the server that i could play hardcore with ppl for eu
played mage in HC but died to storm minotaur bcs it resited 5 spells in a row, ran out of mana.. im thinking about taking a warrior in my next run actually.. I know that in their level exp its quite hard but well.. the zug calls me to arms
and ofc same achievments as on my mage, maybe some more! no professions, no grouping, no leaving the continent where u started!
Guys, I’ve played warrior since vanilla and I still play warriors up to date. If you plan to lvl up warrior to swag after 60 pls dont. You’ll have the worst game experience there is and without a good willing guild you will be a fkng pest not being able to gather gear without help. The only time I have found warrior bearable was when I was playing with my GF as a shadow priest. So if you just aim 60 - roll ay other class. If you aim AFTER 60 - you might consider a warrior
People who tell you - don’t roll warrior are unfortunately right. They only shine in the end game with a proper gear. Leveling HC is anything but this. During vanilla I had a lot of fun tanking as furry but it does not count when you do HC and mistakes are not welcome
@WillE dudae, while I do like your content and im glad the channel keeps growing, and i respect ur knowledge of the game, you are bad at warriors. Your macro recommendations/bar layout are bad and misleading. You dont skill parry or even talk about it (kek). You dont talk about fishing at all , or any professions, and the addons are lacking. Please next time talk/research a knowledgeable warrior before you post a warrior vid. Since you do have pull on UA-cam, and i think you dont want misleading or even bad info on ur vids. I wish u the best!
World buffs should not be allowable in HC. There are too many other rules that I disagree with to begin to accept that. I think I would prefer pretty much only to have soul healers deactivated, but even player resurrections skills allowed. The only rebuttal that I've heard for this is "that it makes the game too easy". So why are world buffs legit then? You didn't farm it, you're getting it from other players. Disqualify!
Tip 1: Dont.
Nah cause you're a total Chad if you succeed
Tip 2 : still don't
Fuck I was gonna comment that hahaha
Pusseh! :)
Tip 2: Just... dont.
One thing I've learned that can really help you is to do 2 starter areas (your own and another one of your faction) to get ahead in XP. Or grind out to level 8 if you don't mind grinding. Those 2 extra levels REALLY help and you'll still notice the effects when you move to your level 12+ zone
I usually play undead warrior for cannibalize. Heading to Barrens after getting those 2 extra levels in silverpine is so nice
This seems simple but its great advice I dont always see people do in HC
Another one is to completely ignore named quest mobs. The time spent waiting and trying to snipe the mob is worst than just farming mats or grinding exp mobs.
A very big tip to make Warrior leveling much less painless; Always be doing green quests.
Fighting green monsters massively increases your chance to hit and crit on mobs, as well as remove chance to be hit and crit on yourself.
This is not the way. Zugzug or nothing
But if you’re going to fight green mobs you’re not a warrior. You’re just a guy with an axe or sword
@@conorf8091 🤣😅
@@conorf8091me not that kind of orc
I think the one thing you missed was warriors get huge hp5 from spirit, like way more than any others. 30 spirit is like an extra 30 hp/2 so it's nice to have one or two pieces with spirit on it, it'll definitely save some silver and downtime when you don't have to eat all the time.
And if you really want to go the extra mile, you could have a whole spirit set that you could macro-swap to to circumvent eating entirely, just don't be somewhere unsafe.
This comment needs more likes!
No just no. Stop this spirit meme
You’re not even a gamer.
@@imnotagamer22 It's not a meme. Grab a few Of the Boar items for str+spirit and a big spirit weapon like odo's ley staff or psyan's old great sword. I didn't have to eat from lv23 to lv35 because i regen so fast.
@@Jackpkmn I lost the roll on that staff last night and the healer was complaining that it wasn't a Warrior-weapon BECAUSE of the Spirit.
I told him that was the exact reason why I wanted it (also because 4-5 DPS more then what I had).
One reason I liked vanilla is that the best class at end game was the hardest class to level up. Unlike deathknight which skips 55 levels and is OP from start to finish.
facts
The entire expansion it was released in centered around a death knight… I can’t even be mad I loved that class
If you aren't op by 55/58 in wotlk I'd say it's more to do with not having gear that matches them. Give those dks greens and they aren't so good. My 54 prot pally would be comparable in power, only behind in levels really.
@@lucamckenn5932 u never played original wotlk lol
@@undergroundsubway7023 and I never will and don't want to Mr gatekeeper
Almost accidentally, I chose a warrior as my main during Classic when I was still 11 years old. I know it sounds silly, but I think being made to tank made me laugh a better leader and communicator in real life.
I died sooooo many times though, lol
People underestimate how multiplayer cooperative video games can contribute to real life social skills. I attribute my leadership and team communication skills IRL to playing overwatch. Nothing could built my patience better
I was 8 and I felt the same. Although having the party ridicule me for 5 years was definitely the learning experience for me 😂.
I feel the same way! I played feral and loved to tank dungeons. I think forming my own groups and being party leader for lots of 5-man and 10-man content helped me gain important leadership skills that I employ in my current job all the time. Decisiveness under pressure, playing to team members' strengths, and knowing how to communicate effectively. Super important skills that tanking can help you train!
No matter how painful the leveling is Warrior will always be my favourite. Other classes have magic, ranged or cunning tricks while Warriors are pure and simple. Get VERY ANGRY and hit stuff with BIG SLABS OF STEEL.
The beauty is in the rage filled simplicity 🤣
A series on hc dungeons and what to look out for would be awesome too
Second this, I’d love to see a dungeon tour video.
Agreed! Like BFD torch room or the ghosts in Dire Maul West etc. God damn those ghosts hit hard xD
I don't trust the WoW community enough to a raid on a hardcore character. All it takes is for one person to think it'd be funny to run the bomb in the Baron Geddon fight into everybody for all that time to be wasted.
By the time you're raiding I would hope you know your guildmates well enough. Besides they too have put in the effort to level without dying and I doubt they want to throw that away.
@@roberteltze4850 Some people live for the long con though. And if it will generate views on youtube people will definitely do it.
i died 3 times on warrior until i level prot. spec from the beginning combating mobs in def stance. its slower, but you get a lot of revenge procs, combined with improved revenge and shield block, you almost get no damage. plus, you have last stance pretty early. it will be rare to level as prot, but its a marathon, not a sprint, and patience is the key. in addition, early range weapon for save mob pulls is the key as well as beeing an engineer for target dummies and stunning grenades
I've done the same. It's overlooked. Hp is much higher, added stuns. Adds only slightly more time because your not running a 2Hand. If someone likes tanking dungeons with their time, it's absolutely doable.
I just wish revenge did a little more damage. The talent points make it nice but still lacking in the damage. But yea. Leveling prot spec isn’t really bad at all. Screw the meta. Living is king.
Episode 2 of my new favorite WoW series.
I would actually recommend a warrior. Why? Because your actions matter. If you mess up: You messed up. So you need to think about every pull.
It teaches you how to play well and to use everything you have.
Also: Some rather surprising, good early game weapons. Both the Deadmines and the Wailing caverns have a quest to defeat bosses that reward you with a Staff. That thing is extremely good for your level in terms of DPS and can easily last you until 30.
I hope to see Warlock or Shaman eventually.
Also wish you'd cover Profession picks for each class. 😊
Every solo should just go mining/engi
@@deadman0315 I think that alch/herb is a pretty popular combo as well for HC. Lot of buff potions you can have on constantly as well as infinite mana and health potions
mining/eng or alch/herb as a slightly "easier" option
Shaman is ridiculously hard to reach 60 in hardcore for some reason, made 6 of them and they all died in The Barrens. I don't understand why that is but on Hardcore my Warrior, Hunter, Mage, and Warlock I had a MUCH easier time than with Shaman (despite Shaman being my favorite class in WoW). Tried Enh, Ele, Resto.... something just always went wrong no matter what I did. I am doing a Priest run, then a Rogue eventually but I just will never understand why my Shamans always end up dead. I guess I subconsciously knew that I could heal so I'd get greedy but when shit hit the fan the healing just wasn't good enough to handle spike damage, then I'd go OOM. Earthbind totem would get resisted when it mattered most and I generally died before getting Frost Shock.
I'll try Shaman in Hardcore again eventually but that class caused me to nearly quit Hardcore classic altogether.
A very tiny detail that could possibly help HC players is how to pull mobs in the world... You don't always have to charge in and risk pulling nearby mobs (asspull radius is sometimes greater than mob pull radius when it enters combat), SO it's sometimes HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to use your ranged throw or shoot ability to pull one specific mob, instead of charging it. Losing a bit of rage from not charging is better than losing your life on a horrific chain-pull accident (unforeseen consequences).
Another tiny detail is, you need to remember some mobs run, SO it's always great to not just shoot a mob, but also drag the mob further away from its friendlies to like 50-60 yards, so you have some room to chase it after it starts to run. Try to remember/predict which mobs will run (usually humanoid mobs tend to run more than beast mobs. Undeads never run as far as i remember, but if you know of an exception to this please let me know, i'm curious.), and it's great to pre-hamstring mobs before they hit their run threshold. Not sure what that is, but it's around 15%-20%.
One last bit of wisdom is, if you aren't sure if a certain mob will chainpull or not, it's worth starting your pull from that said mob, shoot it and see what it pulls with it. Sometimes it's better to see if it will be a catastrophic pull early and have time to run than to find out too late. Example: 2 mobs one of which you need will definitely pull together, but there's a 3rd mob that doesn't interest you in a sus distance away from the 2 and he is in turn in a sus distance away from a 4th and 5th mob that don't interest you. It's better to 'test' it by attacking the 3rd monster from range and being ready to run out (think of your route back and check if any patrols or respawning mobs are in the way, and test if the 3rd mob pulls 4th or 5th, or even 1st and 2nd. If the 3rd mob pulls 4 5 you run. run like the wind. Possibly look for another place where you can find mobs 1 and 2 where it's safer. If it pulls 1 and 2 but not 4 or 5, you might consider pulling them back a bit and killing all 3 if you feel you can handle it, but if nothing pulls it's probably best to pull it back a bit and kill it so as not to risk pulling 45 with 12 when you pull.
Pretty good coverage here. Leveling's brutal but 60 game play is a blast!
I highly recommend NOT putting Points into Rend DW Impale, because
a) Rend falls off after lvl 20 even with this talent and wont be used
b) DW and Impale (which deals shittsy damage anyways) are random proc and can break your fear in the worst moments.
Rather spend these points to get 5/5 parry and improved charge
Rend is your best damage per rage early on providing decent damage during your early levels. Later on deep wounds damage will be quite substantial since you’ll crit a lot with 10% crit from talents and 50% crit on overpower.
I started the hardcore aventure with a warrior around 2 weeks ago. I am now lvl 28. So far, so good. The only times I almost died were because of random disconnections, other players or because of roaming elites that surprise you. The rest is just chill. I'm maxing professions asap all the time (alchemy+herbalism and all secondaries).
Always potted, always food-buffed. I feel like a beast. Fingers crossed for what is coming past 30 😅
Alchemy/Herbalism is GOATED on hardcore, without it things are easily twice as difficult. I tried other professions and you just can't beat the speed pots and an infinite supply of healing/buff pots.
Pro-tip, always keep all professions, especially cooking & first aid, at max level if you choose to play a classic warrior. Makes the level process so much easier
Best hidden tip: play mage instead
On a warrior, the key to the first 20-30 levels is to have a decent amount of Spirit on your gear.
Spirit give you a very big amount of health back when out of combat.
Also stacking Agility is way better then stacking Strength (Crit % is better then dealing a minute amount of extra damage per hit)
I think for normal wow spirit is good but for hardcore a little bit extra damage or health instead of spirit could mean life or death.
@@Andrewz167 You don't want to go overboard with +Spirit on gear.
You just have a couple items with the 'of the Boar' or 'of the Wolf' affix for the +Spirit.
If you needed 5-7 more Stamina to survive... you should not have pulled that mob in the firstp lace.
The extra say 15-20 Spirit you gater by having 3-4 pieces with some extra Spirit (use some Stamina/Spirit food as well) will make you regen over 40 hitpoints every 2 seconds when not incombat which makes you a lot more efficient in leveling without the need of a lot of food/potions.
When tanking dungeons you want to swap those Boar/Wolf pieves for either Bear/Monkey obviously since Spirit doesn't do much/anything in there when tanking.
I wish I could have had this video, back when I tried Classic.
I played a warrior, something I never got around to back in vanilla, but found the level up experience really tricky. This guide would for sure have helped, even though I wasn't doing a hardcore run.
Dont mind me im just watching the kiting 🐄
slam for leveling mates, you wont have rage for MS, you wanna spec arms till sweeping strikes then grab howl, get a swing timer
Just died yesterday at lvl 17. Stay out of prot stance if you want to shake off mobs, or else they'll follow you to the ends of Azeroth.
Also go furry for piercing howl, most life saving ability, allows to kite as many mobs without being in range of melee.
Dont execute mobs or use rage ability’s that would do overdamage when a white hit would kill them, build up rage instead.
Imo classic era warrior is a masterpiece of mmo skill expression. Warriors are the main character 😅.
They truly are. I'd say warriors and mages are by far the most fleshed out classes in the game and it's not even close. I've tried other classes but always quit them by level 30 because they just feel too convoluted with a bunch of niche skills and they just seem too spread thin across the board. I would say Priests are somewhat decent as well but I personally can't stand healing in video games so I'm not a fan of them.
Warriors have three very good trees, one focused purely on damage, another on defense, and another is a mix of the two and they each play very well in their own ways and the arms warrior is probably my favorite talent tree in the entire game for levelling. Being able to just charge mobs and chain-kill as well as pull from a distance (unlike paladins) and hamstring/intercept those who attempt to escape is just amazing and the "oh shit" skills like retaliation are badass when your backs against the wall.
Yeah, warriors might not have skills like vanish or lay on hands and require more attention and situational awareness but as long as you don't overextend yourself before knowing the area and the spawn locations and keep your potions and scrolls on you you can get through nearly anything save for groups of elites or rare elite roaming mobs which require a hamstring and speed potion to survive generally.
I got a warrior to 60 on hardcore and it was very rewarding, lost a good 8-10 toons around the level 20-40 range but after you hit 40 and start gearing up in plate armor and don't get too cocky it just gets easier and easier.
Easily my favorite WoW class ever and the others don't even come close other than frost mage which is also a masterpiece class/talent build.
Hi Will!
I'm playing a warrior in HC because I LOVE myself thank you very much. :)
I like it. You have a whole new market in classic wow vids going through hardcore class;s. Then dungeons, areas etc. Good job
I love having your vids on background while i play my wow
The Stages of a Hardcore Warrior:
Stage One: Baby’s First Warrior: You’re curious how hard it will actually be. This is either your first Classic Warrior or you mained one before and want another go with Hardcore. You might die early and move on but if not then Stage Two is for you.
Stage Two: Determination: You’ve failed a few warriors by this point and now want to at least get a few zones in. At some point you may debate picking up a duo to make it easier or you’ll just continue on solo.
Stage Three: Heartbreak: You’ve probably made it to at least Level 30 by now and just lost your Warrior. It’s at this point you truly wonder if being a Warrior is worth it. You will either soldier on or make a new class. The choice is up to you.
Stage Four: Success: You did it. You reached level 60 on the hardest class to do it. Now comes a choice. Do you continue into raiding or do you stop playing the toon and start collecting level 60s?
Stage Five: Vaelastrasz the Corruptor: You’re a tank. You knew this was coming. I hope your guild knows a trick and don’t expect you to fall on your *insert one hander here* for them to progress.
I recommend to any warrior to go fury dual wield and spamming heroic strike. Don't do the cyclonian quest. You have very good one handed weapons lvl 40. Try to get the sword from the RFD quest and the sword from "into the scarlet monastere" and you will be insane. More than cyclonian holder.
Few great tips
stancedancing through macros is amazing. Example: /cast berserker stance /cast whirlwind (works great for battle stance+overpower too) or /cancelaura bloodrage /cast battle stance /cast charge
pre lvl 30, heroic strike and rend have amazing dmg/rage value. keep in mind that heroic strike ''consumes'' or empowers your next auto attack; instead of auto-attacking, you will heroic strike, netting you higher damage but no rage. this means that, especially at lower level, sword and board isn't that bad. although a 2-hander better, using a shield 1-16 as a troll, nelf, gnome, or human, isn't the end of the world at all; more value from heroic strikes (as the static dmg is not influenced by weapon dmg, a quicker main hand is amazing for heroic strike), and if your attack doesn't land - either it's blocked, parried, dodged, or it misses - it doesn't matter as much as it does with a slower weapon. a 3.5 second weapon can miss three times in a row over 12 seconds and mean death, a quicker 1.5 weapon will more quickly approach the averages of your chance to land or miss a hit, and your target's chance to avoid it. in other words, a quicker weapon mitigates mitigation. slow weapons are the best, but heroic strike at lower levels is insane, making quicker weapons extremely viable too!
most importantly: hamstring kiting is the best thing there is. as your auto's do about 2-3 times as much dmg as the things you're fighting. considering your hp is higher than most mobs, you will be able to chain-pull without issues, and the game changes from ''stand and hit'' to ''wow i actually have to do things and it matters''
Leveling as a warrior is ALWAYS should be arms!!!! or prot for tanking dungeons.. but NEVER level fury! ever!!! you can even duel wield as arms and it still better to level arms duel wielrding than fury. your miss chance is just too high and u dont do enough damage. with Arms the over power talent aloneeeee is HUGE... the Over power crit will always hit enemies for 1/3 to 1/4 of their HP. And duel wielding arms ur offhand wep if its quick can make enemies dodge it for a sweet overpower crit. i shriek when i see fury leveling.. its so bad
I'm not recommending Fury because Arms is probably better, but I will say I think Piercing Howl is really underrated in hardcore. It's very good for the situations where you get in trouble, IE mob respawn/mob from behind/need to run with multiple things on you or your group. AOE 50% slow.
Ive died on 4 warriors now. Lvl 7,12,14,16. All my fault, i get a good 2h and feel like i can do more and get over confident every time. Leveling up my priest to funnel money into my next warrior.. do yourself a favor and dont risk it early levels lol
"Until warriors reaches level 60, then becomes an unstoppable killing machine"
*Warlocks are mushrooms*
Just level a Druid and bear tank while leveling. You don’t want to raid at 60 anyways. Just enjoy the grind and do some fun dungeons at 60 and enjoy life.
Fury 4 Life ❤
For all my dualwielding warriors: Look up HS toggle. I dont wanna see you with crescent staff bois! :P MOOOOH
The fact xar did this without a chest piece is kinda nuts although he was basically full buffed lol so maybe not.
No hit until about lvl 53.
A team of devs actually sat down and agreeded, lets give them no hit at all.
Such morons.
Another point for fury is the lack of deep wounds which enables you to always get a full bandage using fear + bandage or running away with it.
Also I'd argue tanking as fury is sweeter since you get enrage + speed, and I've found the best way to tank is to try and maintain a rage pool throughout the whole dungeon that you spend at start of pool then save up again. Great video!
Which stance do u use as fury tank?
@@timschmieder3461 usually you can switch between all three if you are not minding to maintan rage (you can charge as arms stance, ww on fury then switch to prot stance) but if you wanna maintain rage you can stay as prot stance and just sunder/demorolize and then taunt to keep all mobs on aggro.. you can pull with shooting too
got to 15 on my warrior and died. i thought it was fun despite feeling slow. now im leveling a priest and its literally ez mode
you want to play a warrior HC but have never played a warrior in classic? don't. save other players the pain plz
Hilariously enough, I'm having so much fun on my Warrior, already made it to level 20.
Warrior is easy. Just only do green adds and quest. I outfarming and outquesting at least 4 level ahead.
leveling as prot in hardcore isnt as bad as this video says, especially before like level 40 or 50
So fun update. Warrior has the highest percentile to reach 60. Check the statistics out.
16 year warrior main here. Go Night Elf. Shadowmeld, when used properly; WILL save your ass.
Im NE warrior 37 lvl. There's no NE warriors 60 lvl on HC wow at all for now 😂
What about protect, im leveling that eay my warrior and it wasnt mention in the video 😢
pro tip: just spam sunder armor after rending your target. it doesn't reset your swing timer and it procs a lot of overpowers + the armor reduction actually adds notable damage output. SA has been proven to be better than HS spamming.
pro tip; stop using rend after lvl 10
@@Mooxzyea shudnt even talent into it
Ahhh man Whirlwind axe quest has killed me plenty of times
Why don't you use sunder for your warrior. Thats and rend is basically all you use up to 40. Also you dont say anything about heroic strike queue and how you can use it take make your OH always hit as long as heroic strike is queued when your oh swing goes out. You can turn it off and on with /stopcasting macro.
Whats OH? Thanks
I can't understand how I kept playing WoW back in 2007 when my first character was a warrior and I had no idea what talents mean, nor what weapons I should use. Probably this is the reason why it took me around 40 days of /played to reach level 60.
I just leveled a fury/prot warrior and it was the best as far as fun!!!! I had never played a warrior before and I fell in love 😻. If you want to kill mobs on the way to ur next location use charg its the warriors blink plus taunting u have 2 charges and a taunt so u can kill fast! It took me a month to level to 80. When i would go into an area i was usually finished before anyone else got started lol. AND dont get me started with Prot PVP 😂 u wanna have a smile that wont stop till the end well that’s the warrior! Unfortunately I started leveling a Disc Priest after. So best tip..dont ever try and level anything else after ur warrior they pale in comparison as far as speed.I’m actually considering making my first twink with the priest at 59 bc yea lol. I guess those two 2 handed weapons in fury really are bis in itself 👏. Blizzard has also announced a glyph change for shattering throw so u eont have to change stances to use to be able to use. Good luck!
Two more small tips for warriors; sunder armor is more dps then heroic strike if the mob is going to live more then 4 auto attacks and good weapons can drop from specific mobs in most zones. Ogres in general tend to have a weapon or two that only they can drop in the zone that is very good for warriors.
Good call on the weapons! Most of these guys are just repeating the same weapon path but never give mentions of things like Gargoyle Bite and the other farmable weapons.
One tip I have is to get comfortable with stancedancing. Bind Tab to the last spot in your stance actionbar. When in Battle stance, put Berserker stance in that slot. Enter Berserker stance and put Battle stance in that same slot.
Now you can switch between Battle and Berserker stance very quickly and easily.
You can also change the setup to switch between Defensive and Berserker stance for tanking.
So Battle -> Defensive Berserker stance.
I don't know what classic looks like, but in the old days, stancechanging (and charge/intercept?) didn't trigger GCD, meaning you can pull off quite intricate manouvers with very little effort. Was also very useful when Taunt only had a 8 yard range.
Keep in mind that your ragepool will take a hit from changing stances, but sometimes mobility is worth more than rage.
I feel tab is essential for switching targets
@@doctorprepper8106 Any easy to access button would suffice. I had it on mouse4 or 5. And the button above tab was for charge/intercept.
Well, I would argue that the reason most people struggle so much with warrior is that Arms and 2h are so ubiquitous. Fury and DW are infinitely better for leveling as soon as you get to 20. The hit reduction only feels bad. Statistically you generate more rage, deal more damage and are way less vulnerable to bad hit roll chains with a slow 2h.
Warrior was the only class I lvled in HC SoM...funny enough it's the only class I don't have a 80 of in wotlk besides mage.
Been really considering lvling again and going full naked. Watching all these HC clips really got the itch going...and I need HC spiced up a bit.
Edit: another good tip is to macro mouseover for your charge. Makes things easiest when charging away or if you fall and have a mob nearby, reducing the risk of misclicking the mob
Make one for every class bro ❤
Can't wit to see all the warriors and yet there still be no tanks in game.
do paladin next
had it been wotlk this video would be takin a 180 turn xd
@WillE or anyone who knows, Where can I find a WORKING Weapon Swing Timer? Every version I'm running into is busted on Classic ERA
Your videos are amazing! I would love you to do this for the rest of the classes!