I completed the challenge on a warrior last year, I got some tips that I hope will help you guys: -Green quests and mobs (3-5 lvls below) are king, always favour those over yellow quests and mobs -If you run out of doable quests don't jump into another zone where mobs are higher level, you're better off grinding green bois -Judge every quest you do individually, take into consideration a risk/reward ratio and decide if it's worth it, if it's not, dont forget you'll get that xp anyways from grinding fairly quickly -Don't go into caves you know to be sketchy and if you don't know, look it up first -Never get cocky, don't think you'll get away with every 30mins popping retal and sweeping strikes and pulling 6 mobs every time -EVERYWHERE you go, you must figure out an escape plan, whether it be a carved out path you made yourself by killing mobs or as simple as positioning -I strongly recommend engi as a warrior, since your only getaway tools are hamstring and intidimating shout, now you'll have grenades, target dummies and others which saved my life a couple of times, you can also farm dust devils in westfall for magic dust as an extra -Cooking is very important and you should always keep it up to date, having a stam/spirit buff all the time is very useful -Ideally you should pull mobs with a ranged weapon if there's a risk you pull more if you charge there -A ranged weapon can also be useful to cheese some mobs with pathing, so don't neglect a quality ranged weapon Thats what I loved about doing this challenge on a warrior, every single move you do has to have a strategy behind it, if you don't think and just zugzug it there's a good chance you're gonna die.
Wow classic was the first time I played any mmo, needless to say I sucked and lvled as prot war and I learned first hand all your tips are in fact very true and helpful!
One thing I've learned that can really help you is to do 2 starter areas (your own and another one of your faction) to get ahead in XP. Or grind out to level 8 if you don't mind grinding. Those 2 extra levels REALLY help and you'll still notice the effects when you move to your level 12+ zone
Another one is to completely ignore named quest mobs. The time spent waiting and trying to snipe the mob is worst than just farming mats or grinding exp mobs.
I remember leveling a warrior in vanilla. It was pretty challenging. Died so many times(skill issue I know lol), but I enjoyed it. It was the class that really got me into the game.
One reason I liked vanilla is that the best class at end game was the hardest class to level up. Unlike deathknight which skips 55 levels and is OP from start to finish.
If you aren't op by 55/58 in wotlk I'd say it's more to do with not having gear that matches them. Give those dks greens and they aren't so good. My 54 prot pally would be comparable in power, only behind in levels really.
Would be great if blizzard implemented the system, that after hitting lvl 60 on hardcore, you are given a choice: - Stay on hardcore servers and continue onward; - migrate to normal realm with special "Hardcore" character title.
i died 3 times on warrior until i level prot. spec from the beginning combating mobs in def stance. its slower, but you get a lot of revenge procs, combined with improved revenge and shield block, you almost get no damage. plus, you have last stance pretty early. it will be rare to level as prot, but its a marathon, not a sprint, and patience is the key. in addition, early range weapon for save mob pulls is the key as well as beeing an engineer for target dummies and stunning grenades
I've done the same. It's overlooked. Hp is much higher, added stuns. Adds only slightly more time because your not running a 2Hand. If someone likes tanking dungeons with their time, it's absolutely doable.
I just wish revenge did a little more damage. The talent points make it nice but still lacking in the damage. But yea. Leveling prot spec isn’t really bad at all. Screw the meta. Living is king.
Pro tip to aspiring brownies, rend and sunder armor are great when leveling, avoid heroic strike like the plague unless you’re rage capped and always stay in battle stance except for quick swaps to cast whirlwind etc. Rend is one of the best damage per rage abilities, it does fall off in the 40s though. Sunder armor is one of the only armor pen sources in vanilla, it makes your autos hit a lot harder and gives you more rage. Heroic strikes not only costs 15 rage but denies rage generation on your next hit making you really rage starved. The extra crit chance from berserker stance is generally not worth the extra 10% damage taken. And don’t use execute if you have a lot of rage, the rage you use to overkill a mob could’ve been spent killing the next mob much faster.
I think the one thing you missed was warriors get huge hp5 from spirit, like way more than any others. 30 spirit is like an extra 30 hp/2 so it's nice to have one or two pieces with spirit on it, it'll definitely save some silver and downtime when you don't have to eat all the time. And if you really want to go the extra mile, you could have a whole spirit set that you could macro-swap to to circumvent eating entirely, just don't be somewhere unsafe.
@@imnotagamer22 It's not a meme. Grab a few Of the Boar items for str+spirit and a big spirit weapon like odo's ley staff or psyan's old great sword. I didn't have to eat from lv23 to lv35 because i regen so fast.
@@Jackpkmn I lost the roll on that staff last night and the healer was complaining that it wasn't a Warrior-weapon BECAUSE of the Spirit. I told him that was the exact reason why I wanted it (also because 4-5 DPS more then what I had).
A very tiny detail that could possibly help HC players is how to pull mobs in the world... You don't always have to charge in and risk pulling nearby mobs (asspull radius is sometimes greater than mob pull radius when it enters combat), SO it's sometimes HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to use your ranged throw or shoot ability to pull one specific mob, instead of charging it. Losing a bit of rage from not charging is better than losing your life on a horrific chain-pull accident (unforeseen consequences). Another tiny detail is, you need to remember some mobs run, SO it's always great to not just shoot a mob, but also drag the mob further away from its friendlies to like 50-60 yards, so you have some room to chase it after it starts to run. Try to remember/predict which mobs will run (usually humanoid mobs tend to run more than beast mobs. Undeads never run as far as i remember, but if you know of an exception to this please let me know, i'm curious.), and it's great to pre-hamstring mobs before they hit their run threshold. Not sure what that is, but it's around 15%-20%. One last bit of wisdom is, if you aren't sure if a certain mob will chainpull or not, it's worth starting your pull from that said mob, shoot it and see what it pulls with it. Sometimes it's better to see if it will be a catastrophic pull early and have time to run than to find out too late. Example: 2 mobs one of which you need will definitely pull together, but there's a 3rd mob that doesn't interest you in a sus distance away from the 2 and he is in turn in a sus distance away from a 4th and 5th mob that don't interest you. It's better to 'test' it by attacking the 3rd monster from range and being ready to run out (think of your route back and check if any patrols or respawning mobs are in the way, and test if the 3rd mob pulls 4th or 5th, or even 1st and 2nd. If the 3rd mob pulls 4 5 you run. run like the wind. Possibly look for another place where you can find mobs 1 and 2 where it's safer. If it pulls 1 and 2 but not 4 or 5, you might consider pulling them back a bit and killing all 3 if you feel you can handle it, but if nothing pulls it's probably best to pull it back a bit and kill it so as not to risk pulling 45 with 12 when you pull.
No matter how painful the leveling is Warrior will always be my favourite. Other classes have magic, ranged or cunning tricks while Warriors are pure and simple. Get VERY ANGRY and hit stuff with BIG SLABS OF STEEL.
I like it. You have a whole new market in classic wow vids going through hardcore class;s. Then dungeons, areas etc. Good job I love having your vids on background while i play my wow
Almost accidentally, I chose a warrior as my main during Classic when I was still 11 years old. I know it sounds silly, but I think being made to tank made me laugh a better leader and communicator in real life. I died sooooo many times though, lol
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I feel the same way! I played feral and loved to tank dungeons. I think forming my own groups and being party leader for lots of 5-man and 10-man content helped me gain important leadership skills that I employ in my current job all the time. Decisiveness under pressure, playing to team members' strengths, and knowing how to communicate effectively. Super important skills that tanking can help you train!
I wish I could have had this video, back when I tried Classic. I played a warrior, something I never got around to back in vanilla, but found the level up experience really tricky. This guide would for sure have helped, even though I wasn't doing a hardcore run.
Protip: HEROIC STRIKE IS A NOOB TRAP. Heroic Strike replaces your auto attack, costs rage - and PREVENTS THAT AUTO ATTACK FROM GENERATING RAGE. Spam Sunder Armor to 5. Hope your enemy dodges. Use Overpower.
On a warrior, the key to the first 20-30 levels is to have a decent amount of Spirit on your gear. Spirit give you a very big amount of health back when out of combat. Also stacking Agility is way better then stacking Strength (Crit % is better then dealing a minute amount of extra damage per hit)
@@Andrewz167 You don't want to go overboard with +Spirit on gear. You just have a couple items with the 'of the Boar' or 'of the Wolf' affix for the +Spirit. If you needed 5-7 more Stamina to survive... you should not have pulled that mob in the firstp lace. The extra say 15-20 Spirit you gater by having 3-4 pieces with some extra Spirit (use some Stamina/Spirit food as well) will make you regen over 40 hitpoints every 2 seconds when not incombat which makes you a lot more efficient in leveling without the need of a lot of food/potions. When tanking dungeons you want to swap those Boar/Wolf pieves for either Bear/Monkey obviously since Spirit doesn't do much/anything in there when tanking.
For the Arms leveling talent build I would recommend taking 2h Weapon Spec before Impale as it will actually increase baseline rage gen. Also Impale only works on crits with special attacks, so while gear is lower in quality the talent provides much lesser value than 2h Weapon Spec imho. I would also take a point out of Improved Overpower + Imp Hamstring and put them both into Improved Charge. You will use Charge hundreds upon hundreds of times while leveling, and that constant improved rage gain every 15s really adds up over time.
Another point for fury is the lack of deep wounds which enables you to always get a full bandage using fear + bandage or running away with it. Also I'd argue tanking as fury is sweeter since you get enrage + speed, and I've found the best way to tank is to try and maintain a rage pool throughout the whole dungeon that you spend at start of pool then save up again. Great video!
@@smither7777 usually you can switch between all three if you are not minding to maintan rage (you can charge as arms stance, ww on fury then switch to prot stance) but if you wanna maintain rage you can stay as prot stance and just sunder/demorolize and then taunt to keep all mobs on aggro.. you can pull with shooting too
One tip I have is to get comfortable with stancedancing. Bind Tab to the last spot in your stance actionbar. When in Battle stance, put Berserker stance in that slot. Enter Berserker stance and put Battle stance in that same slot. Now you can switch between Battle and Berserker stance very quickly and easily. You can also change the setup to switch between Defensive and Berserker stance for tanking. So Battle -> Defensive Berserker stance. I don't know what classic looks like, but in the old days, stancechanging (and charge/intercept?) didn't trigger GCD, meaning you can pull off quite intricate manouvers with very little effort. Was also very useful when Taunt only had a 8 yard range. Keep in mind that your ragepool will take a hit from changing stances, but sometimes mobility is worth more than rage.
Two more small tips for warriors; sunder armor is more dps then heroic strike if the mob is going to live more then 4 auto attacks and good weapons can drop from specific mobs in most zones. Ogres in general tend to have a weapon or two that only they can drop in the zone that is very good for warriors.
Good call on the weapons! Most of these guys are just repeating the same weapon path but never give mentions of things like Gargoyle Bite and the other farmable weapons.
The Stages of a Hardcore Warrior: Stage One: Baby’s First Warrior: You’re curious how hard it will actually be. This is either your first Classic Warrior or you mained one before and want another go with Hardcore. You might die early and move on but if not then Stage Two is for you. Stage Two: Determination: You’ve failed a few warriors by this point and now want to at least get a few zones in. At some point you may debate picking up a duo to make it easier or you’ll just continue on solo. Stage Three: Heartbreak: You’ve probably made it to at least Level 30 by now and just lost your Warrior. It’s at this point you truly wonder if being a Warrior is worth it. You will either soldier on or make a new class. The choice is up to you. Stage Four: Success: You did it. You reached level 60 on the hardest class to do it. Now comes a choice. Do you continue into raiding or do you stop playing the toon and start collecting level 60s? Stage Five: Vaelastrasz the Corruptor: You’re a tank. You knew this was coming. I hope your guild knows a trick and don’t expect you to fall on your *insert one hander here* for them to progress.
Bit of misinformation (perhaps just misspeaking) I'd like to quickly clear up; 6:55 Actually it's not the distance from their "spawn point", it's the distance from their place of agro. Mobs such as Sharptalon, Shadumbra, and Ursangous in Ashenvale will spawn and follow a set patrol route that can actually stray quite far from the spawn point. When such a mob is agroed and then reset and then agroed again, the point at which the leash breaks changes because they have progressed further in their route rather than if it were from the fixed spawn point. 7:04 It's not an "invisible leash timer", it's measured using distance, mobs will not stop attacking you after a certain amount of time, you can do circles around the original agro location while leashing without getting hit indefinitely if you want.
@@NyctoGaming After some testing you are indeed correct there appears to be a set time they will stop following you while still in the leashing distance but not being attacked.
Pro-tip, always keep all professions, especially cooking & first aid, at max level if you choose to play a classic warrior. Makes the level process so much easier
@@deadman0315 I think that alch/herb is a pretty popular combo as well for HC. Lot of buff potions you can have on constantly as well as infinite mana and health potions
Shaman is ridiculously hard to reach 60 in hardcore for some reason, made 6 of them and they all died in The Barrens. I don't understand why that is but on Hardcore my Warrior, Hunter, Mage, and Warlock I had a MUCH easier time than with Shaman (despite Shaman being my favorite class in WoW). Tried Enh, Ele, Resto.... something just always went wrong no matter what I did. I am doing a Priest run, then a Rogue eventually but I just will never understand why my Shamans always end up dead. I guess I subconsciously knew that I could heal so I'd get greedy but when shit hit the fan the healing just wasn't good enough to handle spike damage, then I'd go OOM. Earthbind totem would get resisted when it mattered most and I generally died before getting Frost Shock. I'll try Shaman in Hardcore again eventually but that class caused me to nearly quit Hardcore classic altogether.
Leveling warrior in HC is the best fun I've ever had in wow... Especially exploring caves and trying to Solo elites.. warrior is the ultimate experience / challenge.. I've got warrior to 60 twice a 57 38 and 29 .. usually if I die it was because I just did something reckless like trying to solo blood of hero's or save a mage that's cornered by Drakk XD
I started the hardcore aventure with a warrior around 2 weeks ago. I am now lvl 28. So far, so good. The only times I almost died were because of random disconnections, other players or because of roaming elites that surprise you. The rest is just chill. I'm maxing professions asap all the time (alchemy+herbalism and all secondaries). Always potted, always food-buffed. I feel like a beast. Fingers crossed for what is coming past 30 😅
Alchemy/Herbalism is GOATED on hardcore, without it things are easily twice as difficult. I tried other professions and you just can't beat the speed pots and an infinite supply of healing/buff pots.
1:59 if only I had known this back in 2005. I initially rolled a mage, but then after learning what servers were I rolled a warrior on the realm my friends were on. 😂
Warrior was the only class I lvled in HC SoM...funny enough it's the only class I don't have a 80 of in wotlk besides mage. Been really considering lvling again and going full naked. Watching all these HC clips really got the itch going...and I need HC spiced up a bit. Edit: another good tip is to macro mouseover for your charge. Makes things easiest when charging away or if you fall and have a mob nearby, reducing the risk of misclicking the mob
Prot gives Last stand, 45% chance to stun with revenge (unique DR), concussion blow (5sec stun) and double shield block. Alternatively you can get 5% parry with arms and overpower crits but not much else until later levels because you won't be critting often and whirlwind isn't until 36. Fury is the clear choice for DPS single target if the monsters don't dodge but won't get going until enrage. Sweeping strikes is not always great for HC because fighting two enemies can be dangerous. I was using a 2h until 43 and was planning to swap to arms but then I got an epic shield and the damage with shield slam + 1h spec is quite good. Single target I do almost the same damage as 2h and with only 1 bandage every 4 yellow mobs.
I just leveled a fury/prot warrior and it was the best as far as fun!!!! I had never played a warrior before and I fell in love 😻. If you want to kill mobs on the way to ur next location use charg its the warriors blink plus taunting u have 2 charges and a taunt so u can kill fast! It took me a month to level to 80. When i would go into an area i was usually finished before anyone else got started lol. AND dont get me started with Prot PVP 😂 u wanna have a smile that wont stop till the end well that’s the warrior! Unfortunately I started leveling a Disc Priest after. So best tip..dont ever try and level anything else after ur warrior they pale in comparison as far as speed.I’m actually considering making my first twink with the priest at 59 bc yea lol. I guess those two 2 handed weapons in fury really are bis in itself 👏. Blizzard has also announced a glyph change for shattering throw so u eont have to change stances to use to be able to use. Good luck!
I would actually recommend a warrior. Why? Because your actions matter. If you mess up: You messed up. So you need to think about every pull. It teaches you how to play well and to use everything you have. Also: Some rather surprising, good early game weapons. Both the Deadmines and the Wailing caverns have a quest to defeat bosses that reward you with a Staff. That thing is extremely good for your level in terms of DPS and can easily last you until 30.
Great video, I'll add some thoughts to the fury thing: Improved intercept is one of the best survivability options warriors have, so be sure to take that instead of dual wield specialization, which doesn't have any benefit while using a shield, and the benefits even while dual wielding aren't great. I value berserker rage over that due to the free intercept and it making up somewhat for the lack of tactical mastery early on (though I usually grab it prior to deep fury). The reason you go fury over arms, even with a 2Her, is due to the better tanking ability, and the synergy between imp intercept and piercing howl, which increase survivability by more than you'd think! Personally I'd drop rend/deep wounds/impale and snag imp overpower along with imp intercept and imp berserker rage (plus two parry to boot!). I'm not a huge fan of imp execute for HC either, and would rather have imp demoralizing shout since I'm using it in every situation that matters, while with execute, a lot of the time I choose not to execute to conserve rage. I'd take some talents out of the talent next to it (whatever it's called, it gives you like a couple rage per swing I think, it isn't that great) to fill it out. Also note that all that advice is for leveling. At 60 the usual advice holds.
yea, he kinda just linked the two major end-game talent builds with little to no thought. There's a few 10-40 builds, a couple 40-59 builds then those two end game builds
I highly recommend NOT putting Points into Rend DW Impale, because a) Rend falls off after lvl 20 even with this talent and wont be used b) DW and Impale (which deals shittsy damage anyways) are random proc and can break your fear in the worst moments. Rather spend these points to get 5/5 parry and improved charge
Rend is your best damage per rage early on providing decent damage during your early levels. Later on deep wounds damage will be quite substantial since you’ll crit a lot with 10% crit from talents and 50% crit on overpower.
I played priest, warrior, mage, warlock, less than 30 levels on hunter and the rest up to 60+ in WOTKL. I like to be chunky and do as much dps as possible. Is this the way to go with end game rewarding result ? I have a healer, I want something to tank and dps with that can mainly melee and prio dps. After doing lots of dps I will want to respec into tank or hybrid to tank dungeons or whatever if I can get there
can't wait for the shaman one :D I'm part of a group of 3 and I've decided I'm gonna enhance so i can tank when needed and when not i can throw out large dps with windfury procs. So far it feels like I'm playing warrior but with much more survivability
Sword spec is best. Almost all the good tanking weapons while leveling are swords, your extra swongs can crit so overall average more rage and it makes cool wooshing noises. Sweeping strikes, whirlwind, cleave, retaliation with sword spec just delete entire dungeon packs. Bonus, put blazing enchant on if Alliance, use thrash blade. Beautiful
If you just want to level up a warrior and don't care about the "challenge" aspect of it, I recommend doing this as a 2nd or 3rd character and using your main characters to feed weapons and armor to your warrior as much as possible.
I recommend to any warrior to go fury dual wield and spamming heroic strike. Don't do the cyclonian quest. You have very good one handed weapons lvl 40. Try to get the sword from the RFD quest and the sword from "into the scarlet monastere" and you will be insane. More than cyclonian holder.
There is another factor regarding leashes, where a mob will re-lease if they're within melee range for a certain amount of time, which I hear is 1.5 seconds. If anyone can confirm the rules behind this I'd be interested to hear them, since I've seen a little evidence that this doesn't effect all mobs or it might be longer than 1.5 seconds (or maybe movement is involved?).
It's not when they're in melee range, it's when they're standing still. And I think it's about a second. If it were just melee range then mobs would never leash off lol. And I think you still need to do something to refresh the leash. It's why people say sometimes you shouldn't stop and heal and should just run because stopping to heal will let them stand still. I don't remember exactly though just watch Calamity's video.
I don't trust the WoW community enough to a raid on a hardcore character. All it takes is for one person to think it'd be funny to run the bomb in the Baron Geddon fight into everybody for all that time to be wasted.
By the time you're raiding I would hope you know your guildmates well enough. Besides they too have put in the effort to level without dying and I doubt they want to throw that away.
I wish this guide was available back in March of 2005. I leveled as Prot. I figured that since I was dying all the time, that if I put more points in defensive abilities, it would help #newblogic
Warriors have a shit ton of disadvantages in HC, but one big advantage: you can tank. Warriors can form their own groups and exclude anybody who might roll on their gear. Sure you can only run the dungeon once, but imagine being a rogue, or worse yet, a warrior who doesn't want to tank. Nothing but quest reward weapons and vendor stuff would be absolutely brutal.
I can't understand how I kept playing WoW back in 2007 when my first character was a warrior and I had no idea what talents mean, nor what weapons I should use. Probably this is the reason why it took me around 40 days of /played to reach level 60.
I accidentally did hardcore with a troll warrior. I don't remember dying with some spirit in the build. Also I was prot. And it definitely wasn't "zero" damage, I just dual-wielded and did maybe 20% less damage than a fury warrior. Like I was so safe as prot, I could pull 2-3 mobs, pull out my shield, and actually out-regenerate them because I was a troll with that in-combat regen.
Yo man, Idea for a series for classic. "noteworthy/ useful gear progression / quest rewards for each class / horde alliance " Maybe even some green drops from good grind spots as well. For example I was lvling my Troll Hunter in the Barrens and the Cat Eye Emerald Quest lead me to a Mine in the way North and as I was farming the goblins around the entrance I got more green leather / green weapons/ my 1st shoulders / a shadow wand in only like 1.5 hours and it felt godlike at that level. Maybe some other spots like this you can think of or just more info on the loot/ reward/ vendor side of things that are "obtainable in HC" I have noticed that many quests in classic are available early but are WAY to insane to try until much much higher lvl. Thanks for all your work on here man, i have been a life long power gamer but just recently got into Classic, been consuming the crap out of your content.
playing a naked warrior, I have to rely on my food and potions and when it safe to use Demoralizing shout or Thunderclap. Go slow and never rush into a mob and always expect the unexpected. Is it a good day to fish?
Id love a guide for the achievements available in hc, I'm doing warrior sword and board run and no one ever speaks of them in guides or some sort of spec aha
Fury slam build was and still is best way to lv war in classic. You turn a 3.5sec 2hander attack into a 1sec attack with rage use while still autoing while casting...
Well, I would argue that the reason most people struggle so much with warrior is that Arms and 2h are so ubiquitous. Fury and DW are infinitely better for leveling as soon as you get to 20. The hit reduction only feels bad. Statistically you generate more rage, deal more damage and are way less vulnerable to bad hit roll chains with a slow 2h.
Few great tips stancedancing through macros is amazing. Example: /cast berserker stance /cast whirlwind (works great for battle stance+overpower too) or /cancelaura bloodrage /cast battle stance /cast charge pre lvl 30, heroic strike and rend have amazing dmg/rage value. keep in mind that heroic strike ''consumes'' or empowers your next auto attack; instead of auto-attacking, you will heroic strike, netting you higher damage but no rage. this means that, especially at lower level, sword and board isn't that bad. although a 2-hander better, using a shield 1-16 as a troll, nelf, gnome, or human, isn't the end of the world at all; more value from heroic strikes (as the static dmg is not influenced by weapon dmg, a quicker main hand is amazing for heroic strike), and if your attack doesn't land - either it's blocked, parried, dodged, or it misses - it doesn't matter as much as it does with a slower weapon. a 3.5 second weapon can miss three times in a row over 12 seconds and mean death, a quicker 1.5 weapon will more quickly approach the averages of your chance to land or miss a hit, and your target's chance to avoid it. in other words, a quicker weapon mitigates mitigation. slow weapons are the best, but heroic strike at lower levels is insane, making quicker weapons extremely viable too! most importantly: hamstring kiting is the best thing there is. as your auto's do about 2-3 times as much dmg as the things you're fighting. considering your hp is higher than most mobs, you will be able to chain-pull without issues, and the game changes from ''stand and hit'' to ''wow i actually have to do things and it matters''
watching this kind of makes me regret never fully levelling my warrior on Era when it was the only content. and looking at what you say in this video, I want to give it a chance. I think I'll join an era server, and just challenge myself to level a warrior to max level Solo Self Found. Not hardcore mind you, but still a challenge
my character on era servers was a fully prot warrior... sword and shield. did all dungeons with that char... only died in dungeons too. i was a noob so the jjourney to lvl 60 was sloe, but real fun! you can do it too
pro tip: just spam sunder armor after rending your target. it doesn't reset your swing timer and it procs a lot of overpowers + the armor reduction actually adds notable damage output. SA has been proven to be better than HS spamming.
I'm not recommending Fury because Arms is probably better, but I will say I think Piercing Howl is really underrated in hardcore. It's very good for the situations where you get in trouble, IE mob respawn/mob from behind/need to run with multiple things on you or your group. AOE 50% slow.
Isn't weapon speed not supposed to affect extra attack damages? As far as I remember weapon speed only affected extra attack damage at the very early stages of vanilla and was never brought to classic, so the only benefit you get for slow 2 hand weapons is higher initial damage (as it does obviously still affect white damage).
Warrior is a lot stronger in Classic levelling than anyone wants to admit. Strong passive armor and powerful auto attack with good weapon especially heroic strike removing hit problems, sunder removing enemy armor and demo shout being really strong at low levels. Tons of ways to boost survivability and damage passively through professions. Warrior is not good when getting out of problems, most of which can be avoided with smart gameplay and being prepared with consumes and an escape plan. Retaliation, shield wall and recklessness are the most powerful cooldowns in the game but long timers mean you need to be smart when to use them.
Despite preferring horde for some odd reason I can't get an Orc warrior over level 30 without dying, best I managed was 27 but I just can't keep them alive despite trying 8 times in total. I made a Dwarf warrior and got him to 60 first try. Not sure why that is the case but Alliance areas just seem more forgiving and by 30-40 I had everything I need to hit 60 no problem. Something about The Barrens/Silverpine just lulls me into making stupid mistakes and all it takes is one and it's over.
I’ve had a warrior as my main since WoW launched. I was excited to relive the experience but the hardcore challenge I don’t even know if I want to try. Part of me wants the challenge though.
You should give it a go! It really brought life back into the game for me. Read through these comments and take some notes. The highs are super high but the lows are super low. If you're alliance, beware Mor'ladim!
People talk down on slam because they've never learned to use it. Very strong ability with a slow weapon and when you time it correctly. If you are wearing all mail or plate gear later on, the pushback isn't very significant.
Haha... "Warrior life ain't easy" is an understatement. And yet, after levelling in Vanilla/BC, I'm still a glutton for punishment and chose a Warrior in Classic (though as an alt this time).
There's a messed up thing about warriors leveling most people don't get. Spirit is a decent stat actually, strength gets btfo by virtually any upgrade to weapon damage. Like for half the game at any low level a quest staff is often the best easily available 2-hander. Dumb but true.
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Nice format
Please to *Warlock* next
I completed the challenge on a warrior last year, I got some tips that I hope will help you guys:
-Green quests and mobs (3-5 lvls below) are king, always favour those over yellow quests and mobs
-If you run out of doable quests don't jump into another zone where mobs are higher level, you're better off grinding green bois
-Judge every quest you do individually, take into consideration a risk/reward ratio and decide if it's worth it, if it's not, dont forget you'll get that xp anyways from grinding fairly quickly
-Don't go into caves you know to be sketchy and if you don't know, look it up first
-Never get cocky, don't think you'll get away with every 30mins popping retal and sweeping strikes and pulling 6 mobs every time
-EVERYWHERE you go, you must figure out an escape plan, whether it be a carved out path you made yourself by killing mobs or as simple as positioning
-I strongly recommend engi as a warrior, since your only getaway tools are hamstring and intidimating shout, now you'll have grenades, target dummies and others which saved my life a couple of times, you can also farm dust devils in westfall for magic dust as an extra
-Cooking is very important and you should always keep it up to date, having a stam/spirit buff all the time is very useful
-Ideally you should pull mobs with a ranged weapon if there's a risk you pull more if you charge there
-A ranged weapon can also be useful to cheese some mobs with pathing, so don't neglect a quality ranged weapon
Thats what I loved about doing this challenge on a warrior, every single move you do has to have a strategy behind it, if you don't think and just zugzug it there's a good chance you're gonna die.
Ty friend! Lv 21 hc Warr here, be blessed 😎
Great advice, 👍
Great tips! Thanks for the insight!
Wow classic was the first time I played any mmo, needless to say I sucked and lvled as prot war and I learned first hand all your tips are in fact very true and helpful!
Thank you!❤ Great tips. Zugzug!
One thing I've learned that can really help you is to do 2 starter areas (your own and another one of your faction) to get ahead in XP. Or grind out to level 8 if you don't mind grinding. Those 2 extra levels REALLY help and you'll still notice the effects when you move to your level 12+ zone
I usually play undead warrior for cannibalize. Heading to Barrens after getting those 2 extra levels in silverpine is so nice
This seems simple but its great advice I dont always see people do in HC
Another one is to completely ignore named quest mobs. The time spent waiting and trying to snipe the mob is worst than just farming mats or grinding exp mobs.
I remember leveling a warrior in vanilla. It was pretty challenging. Died so many times(skill issue I know lol), but I enjoyed it. It was the class that really got me into the game.
I died in almost every cave I entered
One reason I liked vanilla is that the best class at end game was the hardest class to level up. Unlike deathknight which skips 55 levels and is OP from start to finish.
facts
The entire expansion it was released in centered around a death knight… I can’t even be mad I loved that class
If you aren't op by 55/58 in wotlk I'd say it's more to do with not having gear that matches them. Give those dks greens and they aren't so good. My 54 prot pally would be comparable in power, only behind in levels really.
@@lucamckenn5932 u never played original wotlk lol
@@undergroundsubway7023 and I never will and don't want to Mr gatekeeper
Would be great if blizzard implemented the system, that after hitting lvl 60 on hardcore, you are given a choice:
- Stay on hardcore servers and continue onward;
- migrate to normal realm with special "Hardcore" character title.
Turtle wow
It’s a good idea but then Era will be affected with a new title.
no thats exactly the same as osrs then u get every 5 sec Im iRoN mAn BtW
i died 3 times on warrior until i level prot. spec from the beginning combating mobs in def stance. its slower, but you get a lot of revenge procs, combined with improved revenge and shield block, you almost get no damage. plus, you have last stance pretty early. it will be rare to level as prot, but its a marathon, not a sprint, and patience is the key. in addition, early range weapon for save mob pulls is the key as well as beeing an engineer for target dummies and stunning grenades
I've done the same. It's overlooked. Hp is much higher, added stuns. Adds only slightly more time because your not running a 2Hand. If someone likes tanking dungeons with their time, it's absolutely doable.
I just wish revenge did a little more damage. The talent points make it nice but still lacking in the damage. But yea. Leveling prot spec isn’t really bad at all. Screw the meta. Living is king.
A very big tip to make Warrior leveling much less painless; Always be doing green quests.
Fighting green monsters massively increases your chance to hit and crit on mobs, as well as remove chance to be hit and crit on yourself.
This is not the way. Zugzug or nothing
But if you’re going to fight green mobs you’re not a warrior. You’re just a guy with an axe or sword
@@conorf8091 🤣😅
@@conorf8091me not that kind of orc
Pro tip to aspiring brownies, rend and sunder armor are great when leveling, avoid heroic strike like the plague unless you’re rage capped and always stay in battle stance except for quick swaps to cast whirlwind etc.
Rend is one of the best damage per rage abilities, it does fall off in the 40s though.
Sunder armor is one of the only armor pen sources in vanilla, it makes your autos hit a lot harder and gives you more rage.
Heroic strikes not only costs 15 rage but denies rage generation on your next hit making you really rage starved.
The extra crit chance from berserker stance is generally not worth the extra 10% damage taken.
And don’t use execute if you have a lot of rage, the rage you use to overkill a mob could’ve been spent killing the next mob much faster.
I think the one thing you missed was warriors get huge hp5 from spirit, like way more than any others. 30 spirit is like an extra 30 hp/2 so it's nice to have one or two pieces with spirit on it, it'll definitely save some silver and downtime when you don't have to eat all the time.
And if you really want to go the extra mile, you could have a whole spirit set that you could macro-swap to to circumvent eating entirely, just don't be somewhere unsafe.
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No just no. Stop this spirit meme
You’re not even a gamer.
@@imnotagamer22 It's not a meme. Grab a few Of the Boar items for str+spirit and a big spirit weapon like odo's ley staff or psyan's old great sword. I didn't have to eat from lv23 to lv35 because i regen so fast.
@@Jackpkmn I lost the roll on that staff last night and the healer was complaining that it wasn't a Warrior-weapon BECAUSE of the Spirit.
I told him that was the exact reason why I wanted it (also because 4-5 DPS more then what I had).
A series on hc dungeons and what to look out for would be awesome too
Second this, I’d love to see a dungeon tour video.
Agreed! Like BFD torch room or the ghosts in Dire Maul West etc. God damn those ghosts hit hard xD
Would love to see priest next! Though truthfully I'd love to see you cover all the classic classes like this, its very entertaining
A very tiny detail that could possibly help HC players is how to pull mobs in the world... You don't always have to charge in and risk pulling nearby mobs (asspull radius is sometimes greater than mob pull radius when it enters combat), SO it's sometimes HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to use your ranged throw or shoot ability to pull one specific mob, instead of charging it. Losing a bit of rage from not charging is better than losing your life on a horrific chain-pull accident (unforeseen consequences).
Another tiny detail is, you need to remember some mobs run, SO it's always great to not just shoot a mob, but also drag the mob further away from its friendlies to like 50-60 yards, so you have some room to chase it after it starts to run. Try to remember/predict which mobs will run (usually humanoid mobs tend to run more than beast mobs. Undeads never run as far as i remember, but if you know of an exception to this please let me know, i'm curious.), and it's great to pre-hamstring mobs before they hit their run threshold. Not sure what that is, but it's around 15%-20%.
One last bit of wisdom is, if you aren't sure if a certain mob will chainpull or not, it's worth starting your pull from that said mob, shoot it and see what it pulls with it. Sometimes it's better to see if it will be a catastrophic pull early and have time to run than to find out too late. Example: 2 mobs one of which you need will definitely pull together, but there's a 3rd mob that doesn't interest you in a sus distance away from the 2 and he is in turn in a sus distance away from a 4th and 5th mob that don't interest you. It's better to 'test' it by attacking the 3rd monster from range and being ready to run out (think of your route back and check if any patrols or respawning mobs are in the way, and test if the 3rd mob pulls 4th or 5th, or even 1st and 2nd. If the 3rd mob pulls 4 5 you run. run like the wind. Possibly look for another place where you can find mobs 1 and 2 where it's safer. If it pulls 1 and 2 but not 4 or 5, you might consider pulling them back a bit and killing all 3 if you feel you can handle it, but if nothing pulls it's probably best to pull it back a bit and kill it so as not to risk pulling 45 with 12 when you pull.
Episode 2 of my new favorite WoW series.
Tip 1: Dont.
Nah cause you're a total Chad if you succeed
Tip 2 : still don't
Fuck I was gonna comment that hahaha
Pusseh! :)
Tip 2: Just... dont.
No matter how painful the leveling is Warrior will always be my favourite. Other classes have magic, ranged or cunning tricks while Warriors are pure and simple. Get VERY ANGRY and hit stuff with BIG SLABS OF STEEL.
The beauty is in the rage filled simplicity 🤣
I like it. You have a whole new market in classic wow vids going through hardcore class;s. Then dungeons, areas etc. Good job
I love having your vids on background while i play my wow
Almost accidentally, I chose a warrior as my main during Classic when I was still 11 years old. I know it sounds silly, but I think being made to tank made me laugh a better leader and communicator in real life.
I died sooooo many times though, lol
People underestimate how multiplayer cooperative video games can contribute to real life social skills. I attribute my leadership and team communication skills IRL to playing overwatch. Nothing could built my patience better
I was 8 and I felt the same. Although having the party ridicule me for 5 years was definitely the learning experience for me 😂.
I feel the same way! I played feral and loved to tank dungeons. I think forming my own groups and being party leader for lots of 5-man and 10-man content helped me gain important leadership skills that I employ in my current job all the time. Decisiveness under pressure, playing to team members' strengths, and knowing how to communicate effectively. Super important skills that tanking can help you train!
I wish I could have had this video, back when I tried Classic.
I played a warrior, something I never got around to back in vanilla, but found the level up experience really tricky. This guide would for sure have helped, even though I wasn't doing a hardcore run.
Protip: HEROIC STRIKE IS A NOOB TRAP.
Heroic Strike replaces your auto attack, costs rage - and PREVENTS THAT AUTO ATTACK FROM GENERATING RAGE. Spam Sunder Armor to 5. Hope your enemy dodges. Use Overpower.
Yep. Heroic strike is a waste of
Sometimes for a finisher in low lvl it’s nice because it‘s a yellow hit. If i‘m not wrong they have hit increase compared to white hits
I may be wrong, but I think It generates more threat. Others Than that I agree, I was aways rage starved.
On a warrior, the key to the first 20-30 levels is to have a decent amount of Spirit on your gear.
Spirit give you a very big amount of health back when out of combat.
Also stacking Agility is way better then stacking Strength (Crit % is better then dealing a minute amount of extra damage per hit)
I think for normal wow spirit is good but for hardcore a little bit extra damage or health instead of spirit could mean life or death.
@@Andrewz167 You don't want to go overboard with +Spirit on gear.
You just have a couple items with the 'of the Boar' or 'of the Wolf' affix for the +Spirit.
If you needed 5-7 more Stamina to survive... you should not have pulled that mob in the firstp lace.
The extra say 15-20 Spirit you gater by having 3-4 pieces with some extra Spirit (use some Stamina/Spirit food as well) will make you regen over 40 hitpoints every 2 seconds when not incombat which makes you a lot more efficient in leveling without the need of a lot of food/potions.
When tanking dungeons you want to swap those Boar/Wolf pieves for either Bear/Monkey obviously since Spirit doesn't do much/anything in there when tanking.
Been having a lot of fun levelling as dual wield fury. It's not very powerful, but it has style, and I'm not playing to minimax on hardcore
Hs toggle brother
For the Arms leveling talent build I would recommend taking 2h Weapon Spec before Impale as it will actually increase baseline rage gen. Also Impale only works on crits with special attacks, so while gear is lower in quality the talent provides much lesser value than 2h Weapon Spec imho. I would also take a point out of Improved Overpower + Imp Hamstring and put them both into Improved Charge. You will use Charge hundreds upon hundreds of times while leveling, and that constant improved rage gain every 15s really adds up over time.
Another point for fury is the lack of deep wounds which enables you to always get a full bandage using fear + bandage or running away with it.
Also I'd argue tanking as fury is sweeter since you get enrage + speed, and I've found the best way to tank is to try and maintain a rage pool throughout the whole dungeon that you spend at start of pool then save up again. Great video!
Which stance do u use as fury tank?
@@smither7777 usually you can switch between all three if you are not minding to maintan rage (you can charge as arms stance, ww on fury then switch to prot stance) but if you wanna maintain rage you can stay as prot stance and just sunder/demorolize and then taunt to keep all mobs on aggro.. you can pull with shooting too
One tip I have is to get comfortable with stancedancing. Bind Tab to the last spot in your stance actionbar. When in Battle stance, put Berserker stance in that slot. Enter Berserker stance and put Battle stance in that same slot.
Now you can switch between Battle and Berserker stance very quickly and easily.
You can also change the setup to switch between Defensive and Berserker stance for tanking.
So Battle -> Defensive Berserker stance.
I don't know what classic looks like, but in the old days, stancechanging (and charge/intercept?) didn't trigger GCD, meaning you can pull off quite intricate manouvers with very little effort. Was also very useful when Taunt only had a 8 yard range.
Keep in mind that your ragepool will take a hit from changing stances, but sometimes mobility is worth more than rage.
I feel tab is essential for switching targets
@@doctorprepper8106 Any easy to access button would suffice. I had it on mouse4 or 5. And the button above tab was for charge/intercept.
Two more small tips for warriors; sunder armor is more dps then heroic strike if the mob is going to live more then 4 auto attacks and good weapons can drop from specific mobs in most zones. Ogres in general tend to have a weapon or two that only they can drop in the zone that is very good for warriors.
Good call on the weapons! Most of these guys are just repeating the same weapon path but never give mentions of things like Gargoyle Bite and the other farmable weapons.
The Stages of a Hardcore Warrior:
Stage One: Baby’s First Warrior: You’re curious how hard it will actually be. This is either your first Classic Warrior or you mained one before and want another go with Hardcore. You might die early and move on but if not then Stage Two is for you.
Stage Two: Determination: You’ve failed a few warriors by this point and now want to at least get a few zones in. At some point you may debate picking up a duo to make it easier or you’ll just continue on solo.
Stage Three: Heartbreak: You’ve probably made it to at least Level 30 by now and just lost your Warrior. It’s at this point you truly wonder if being a Warrior is worth it. You will either soldier on or make a new class. The choice is up to you.
Stage Four: Success: You did it. You reached level 60 on the hardest class to do it. Now comes a choice. Do you continue into raiding or do you stop playing the toon and start collecting level 60s?
Stage Five: Vaelastrasz the Corruptor: You’re a tank. You knew this was coming. I hope your guild knows a trick and don’t expect you to fall on your *insert one hander here* for them to progress.
Your videos are amazing! I would love you to do this for the rest of the classes!
Thanks for all the great videos, Willie. Warrior is one of my favorite classes but leveling as hardcore is too extreme!
Pretty good coverage here. Leveling's brutal but 60 game play is a blast!
Bit of misinformation (perhaps just misspeaking) I'd like to quickly clear up;
6:55 Actually it's not the distance from their "spawn point", it's the distance from their place of agro. Mobs such as Sharptalon, Shadumbra, and Ursangous in Ashenvale will spawn and follow a set patrol route that can actually stray quite far from the spawn point. When such a mob is agroed and then reset and then agroed again, the point at which the leash breaks changes because they have progressed further in their route rather than if it were from the fixed spawn point.
7:04 It's not an "invisible leash timer", it's measured using distance, mobs will not stop attacking you after a certain amount of time, you can do circles around the original agro location while leashing without getting hit indefinitely if you want.
Your second point is only partially correct.
It is distance related, but there is definitely a leash timer.
@@NyctoGaming After some testing you are indeed correct there appears to be a set time they will stop following you while still in the leashing distance but not being attacked.
Pro-tip, always keep all professions, especially cooking & first aid, at max level if you choose to play a classic warrior. Makes the level process so much easier
I hope to see Warlock or Shaman eventually.
Also wish you'd cover Profession picks for each class. 😊
Every solo should just go mining/engi
@@deadman0315 I think that alch/herb is a pretty popular combo as well for HC. Lot of buff potions you can have on constantly as well as infinite mana and health potions
mining/eng or alch/herb as a slightly "easier" option
Shaman is ridiculously hard to reach 60 in hardcore for some reason, made 6 of them and they all died in The Barrens. I don't understand why that is but on Hardcore my Warrior, Hunter, Mage, and Warlock I had a MUCH easier time than with Shaman (despite Shaman being my favorite class in WoW). Tried Enh, Ele, Resto.... something just always went wrong no matter what I did. I am doing a Priest run, then a Rogue eventually but I just will never understand why my Shamans always end up dead. I guess I subconsciously knew that I could heal so I'd get greedy but when shit hit the fan the healing just wasn't good enough to handle spike damage, then I'd go OOM. Earthbind totem would get resisted when it mattered most and I generally died before getting Frost Shock.
I'll try Shaman in Hardcore again eventually but that class caused me to nearly quit Hardcore classic altogether.
Hi Will!
I'm playing a warrior in HC because I LOVE myself thank you very much. :)
Leveling warrior in HC is the best fun I've ever had in wow... Especially exploring caves and trying to Solo elites.. warrior is the ultimate experience / challenge.. I've got warrior to 60 twice a 57 38 and 29 .. usually if I die it was because I just did something reckless like trying to solo blood of hero's or save a mage that's cornered by Drakk XD
Great video was waiting for a Warrior HC video that goes in depth thanks!
I started the hardcore aventure with a warrior around 2 weeks ago. I am now lvl 28. So far, so good. The only times I almost died were because of random disconnections, other players or because of roaming elites that surprise you. The rest is just chill. I'm maxing professions asap all the time (alchemy+herbalism and all secondaries).
Always potted, always food-buffed. I feel like a beast. Fingers crossed for what is coming past 30 😅
Alchemy/Herbalism is GOATED on hardcore, without it things are easily twice as difficult. I tried other professions and you just can't beat the speed pots and an infinite supply of healing/buff pots.
1:59 if only I had known this back in 2005. I initially rolled a mage, but then after learning what servers were I rolled a warrior on the realm my friends were on. 😂
Warrior was the only class I lvled in HC SoM...funny enough it's the only class I don't have a 80 of in wotlk besides mage.
Been really considering lvling again and going full naked. Watching all these HC clips really got the itch going...and I need HC spiced up a bit.
Edit: another good tip is to macro mouseover for your charge. Makes things easiest when charging away or if you fall and have a mob nearby, reducing the risk of misclicking the mob
Prot gives Last stand, 45% chance to stun with revenge (unique DR), concussion blow (5sec stun) and double shield block. Alternatively you can get 5% parry with arms and overpower crits but not much else until later levels because you won't be critting often and whirlwind isn't until 36. Fury is the clear choice for DPS single target if the monsters don't dodge but won't get going until enrage. Sweeping strikes is not always great for HC because fighting two enemies can be dangerous.
I was using a 2h until 43 and was planning to swap to arms but then I got an epic shield and the damage with shield slam + 1h spec is quite good. Single target I do almost the same damage as 2h and with only 1 bandage every 4 yellow mobs.
I just leveled a fury/prot warrior and it was the best as far as fun!!!! I had never played a warrior before and I fell in love 😻. If you want to kill mobs on the way to ur next location use charg its the warriors blink plus taunting u have 2 charges and a taunt so u can kill fast! It took me a month to level to 80. When i would go into an area i was usually finished before anyone else got started lol. AND dont get me started with Prot PVP 😂 u wanna have a smile that wont stop till the end well that’s the warrior! Unfortunately I started leveling a Disc Priest after. So best tip..dont ever try and level anything else after ur warrior they pale in comparison as far as speed.I’m actually considering making my first twink with the priest at 59 bc yea lol. I guess those two 2 handed weapons in fury really are bis in itself 👏. Blizzard has also announced a glyph change for shattering throw so u eont have to change stances to use to be able to use. Good luck!
i remember back in classic vanilla....piercing howl (talent) save my warrior so many times
2h fury was way underrated for lower lvl lvling
I would actually recommend a warrior. Why? Because your actions matter. If you mess up: You messed up. So you need to think about every pull.
It teaches you how to play well and to use everything you have.
Also: Some rather surprising, good early game weapons. Both the Deadmines and the Wailing caverns have a quest to defeat bosses that reward you with a Staff. That thing is extremely good for your level in terms of DPS and can easily last you until 30.
umm thanks for the tip but can you please tell me which UI addons are you using in 5:36 mn of your video xD. Its nice and clean haha
A really good 2H axe LVL 29 razorfen crawl I think, long before your warrior class is Corpse Maker! It's something pretty badass! Especially with WF !
I too use WeaponSwingTimer to keep track of when my attack is going to miss/dodged/parried.
I respect anyone who has the patience to level a hc warrior lol
Did my first rfc as warrior and man hc really adds an extra uumphf into dungeons
Always great guides Mr Will ty
Question for HC: does Warrior still have to stance dance just to use basic abilitiew, like charge?
Make one for every class bro ❤
Great video, I'll add some thoughts to the fury thing: Improved intercept is one of the best survivability options warriors have, so be sure to take that instead of dual wield specialization, which doesn't have any benefit while using a shield, and the benefits even while dual wielding aren't great. I value berserker rage over that due to the free intercept and it making up somewhat for the lack of tactical mastery early on (though I usually grab it prior to deep fury). The reason you go fury over arms, even with a 2Her, is due to the better tanking ability, and the synergy between imp intercept and piercing howl, which increase survivability by more than you'd think!
Personally I'd drop rend/deep wounds/impale and snag imp overpower along with imp intercept and imp berserker rage (plus two parry to boot!). I'm not a huge fan of imp execute for HC either, and would rather have imp demoralizing shout since I'm using it in every situation that matters, while with execute, a lot of the time I choose not to execute to conserve rage. I'd take some talents out of the talent next to it (whatever it's called, it gives you like a couple rage per swing I think, it isn't that great) to fill it out.
Also note that all that advice is for leveling. At 60 the usual advice holds.
yea, he kinda just linked the two major end-game talent builds with little to no thought. There's a few 10-40 builds, a couple 40-59 builds then those two end game builds
I highly recommend NOT putting Points into Rend DW Impale, because
a) Rend falls off after lvl 20 even with this talent and wont be used
b) DW and Impale (which deals shittsy damage anyways) are random proc and can break your fear in the worst moments.
Rather spend these points to get 5/5 parry and improved charge
Rend is your best damage per rage early on providing decent damage during your early levels. Later on deep wounds damage will be quite substantial since you’ll crit a lot with 10% crit from talents and 50% crit on overpower.
I played priest, warrior, mage, warlock, less than 30 levels on hunter and the rest up to 60+ in WOTKL.
I like to be chunky and do as much dps as possible. Is this the way to go with end game rewarding result ?
I have a healer, I want something to tank and dps with that can mainly melee and prio dps.
After doing lots of dps I will want to respec into tank or hybrid to tank dungeons or whatever if I can get there
can't wait for the shaman one :D I'm part of a group of 3 and I've decided I'm gonna enhance so i can tank when needed and when not i can throw out large dps with windfury procs.
So far it feels like I'm playing warrior but with much more survivability
Sword spec is best. Almost all the good tanking weapons while leveling are swords, your extra swongs can crit so overall average more rage and it makes cool wooshing noises.
Sweeping strikes, whirlwind, cleave, retaliation with sword spec just delete entire dungeon packs. Bonus, put blazing enchant on if Alliance, use thrash blade. Beautiful
Today I learned to pop sweeping strikes immediately when fighting a tough mob
slam for leveling mates, you wont have rage for MS, you wanna spec arms till sweeping strikes then grab howl, get a swing timer
Is dual boxing allowed? Priest+Warrior might be good?
they did forbid multiboxing 3 years ago
Dude it’s hardcore and you’re asking if having a pocket priest is allowed lmao
Hilariously enough, I'm having so much fun on my Warrior, already made it to level 20.
If you just want to level up a warrior and don't care about the "challenge" aspect of it, I recommend doing this as a 2nd or 3rd character and using your main characters to feed weapons and armor to your warrior as much as possible.
I recommend to any warrior to go fury dual wield and spamming heroic strike. Don't do the cyclonian quest. You have very good one handed weapons lvl 40. Try to get the sword from the RFD quest and the sword from "into the scarlet monastere" and you will be insane. More than cyclonian holder.
There is another factor regarding leashes, where a mob will re-lease if they're within melee range for a certain amount of time, which I hear is 1.5 seconds. If anyone can confirm the rules behind this I'd be interested to hear them, since I've seen a little evidence that this doesn't effect all mobs or it might be longer than 1.5 seconds (or maybe movement is involved?).
It's not when they're in melee range, it's when they're standing still. And I think it's about a second. If it were just melee range then mobs would never leash off lol. And I think you still need to do something to refresh the leash. It's why people say sometimes you shouldn't stop and heal and should just run because stopping to heal will let them stand still. I don't remember exactly though just watch Calamity's video.
@WillE or anyone who knows, Where can I find a WORKING Weapon Swing Timer? Every version I'm running into is busted on Classic ERA
Up until which dungeon do you think arms is viable to tank?
I didnt come for the video I just havent heard Willies Voice in a while and I needed it
I don't trust the WoW community enough to a raid on a hardcore character. All it takes is for one person to think it'd be funny to run the bomb in the Baron Geddon fight into everybody for all that time to be wasted.
By the time you're raiding I would hope you know your guildmates well enough. Besides they too have put in the effort to level without dying and I doubt they want to throw that away.
@@roberteltze4850 Some people live for the long con though. And if it will generate views on youtube people will definitely do it.
I wish this guide was available back in March of 2005. I leveled as Prot. I figured that since I was dying all the time, that if I put more points in defensive abilities, it would help #newblogic
Starting a warrior, is 2h fury viable for levelling?
Warriors have a shit ton of disadvantages in HC, but one big advantage: you can tank. Warriors can form their own groups and exclude anybody who might roll on their gear. Sure you can only run the dungeon once, but imagine being a rogue, or worse yet, a warrior who doesn't want to tank. Nothing but quest reward weapons and vendor stuff would be absolutely brutal.
I can't understand how I kept playing WoW back in 2007 when my first character was a warrior and I had no idea what talents mean, nor what weapons I should use. Probably this is the reason why it took me around 40 days of /played to reach level 60.
I accidentally did hardcore with a troll warrior. I don't remember dying with some spirit in the build. Also I was prot.
And it definitely wasn't "zero" damage, I just dual-wielded and did maybe 20% less damage than a fury warrior.
Like I was so safe as prot, I could pull 2-3 mobs, pull out my shield, and actually out-regenerate them because I was a troll with that in-combat regen.
I remember trying this all the ay back in like 2006
Ahhh man Whirlwind axe quest has killed me plenty of times
Yo man, Idea for a series for classic. "noteworthy/ useful gear progression / quest rewards for each class / horde alliance " Maybe even some green drops from good grind spots as well. For example I was lvling my Troll Hunter in the Barrens and the Cat Eye Emerald Quest lead me to a Mine in the way North and as I was farming the goblins around the entrance I got more green leather / green weapons/ my 1st shoulders / a shadow wand in only like 1.5 hours and it felt godlike at that level. Maybe some other spots like this you can think of or just more info on the loot/ reward/ vendor side of things that are "obtainable in HC" I have noticed that many quests in classic are available early but are WAY to insane to try until much much higher lvl. Thanks for all your work on here man, i have been a life long power gamer but just recently got into Classic, been consuming the crap out of your content.
Just got the Ravager today 😊
playing a naked warrior, I have to rely on my food and potions and when it safe to use Demoralizing shout or Thunderclap. Go slow and never rush into a mob and always expect the unexpected. Is it a good day to fish?
Good Mornin‘! Nice day for fishing ain’t it?
What about protect, im leveling that eay my warrior and it wasnt mention in the video 😢
what is the nameplates that you use?
Id love a guide for the achievements available in hc, I'm doing warrior sword and board run and no one ever speaks of them in guides or some sort of spec aha
Just died yesterday at lvl 17. Stay out of prot stance if you want to shake off mobs, or else they'll follow you to the ends of Azeroth.
Fury slam build was and still is best way to lv war in classic. You turn a 3.5sec 2hander attack into a 1sec attack with rage use while still autoing while casting...
no reccmomdations of shields?
Well, I would argue that the reason most people struggle so much with warrior is that Arms and 2h are so ubiquitous. Fury and DW are infinitely better for leveling as soon as you get to 20. The hit reduction only feels bad. Statistically you generate more rage, deal more damage and are way less vulnerable to bad hit roll chains with a slow 2h.
Pro Tip: Group with a healer. You'll both level faster, and have an easier time of it.
Best race for hc? Troll or tauren ?
What I don't like in classic is 30min cooldown for 10seconds and it's not even 100% protection.
Few great tips
stancedancing through macros is amazing. Example: /cast berserker stance /cast whirlwind (works great for battle stance+overpower too) or /cancelaura bloodrage /cast battle stance /cast charge
pre lvl 30, heroic strike and rend have amazing dmg/rage value. keep in mind that heroic strike ''consumes'' or empowers your next auto attack; instead of auto-attacking, you will heroic strike, netting you higher damage but no rage. this means that, especially at lower level, sword and board isn't that bad. although a 2-hander better, using a shield 1-16 as a troll, nelf, gnome, or human, isn't the end of the world at all; more value from heroic strikes (as the static dmg is not influenced by weapon dmg, a quicker main hand is amazing for heroic strike), and if your attack doesn't land - either it's blocked, parried, dodged, or it misses - it doesn't matter as much as it does with a slower weapon. a 3.5 second weapon can miss three times in a row over 12 seconds and mean death, a quicker 1.5 weapon will more quickly approach the averages of your chance to land or miss a hit, and your target's chance to avoid it. in other words, a quicker weapon mitigates mitigation. slow weapons are the best, but heroic strike at lower levels is insane, making quicker weapons extremely viable too!
most importantly: hamstring kiting is the best thing there is. as your auto's do about 2-3 times as much dmg as the things you're fighting. considering your hp is higher than most mobs, you will be able to chain-pull without issues, and the game changes from ''stand and hit'' to ''wow i actually have to do things and it matters''
watching this kind of makes me regret never fully levelling my warrior on Era when it was the only content.
and looking at what you say in this video, I want to give it a chance. I think I'll join an era server, and just challenge myself to level a warrior to max level Solo Self Found.
Not hardcore mind you, but still a challenge
my character on era servers was a fully prot warrior... sword and shield. did all dungeons with that char... only died in dungeons too. i was a noob so the jjourney to lvl 60 was sloe, but real fun! you can do it too
When you started the video "so you have chosen..." I fully expected it to end "death"
love da vids m8t
pro tip: just spam sunder armor after rending your target. it doesn't reset your swing timer and it procs a lot of overpowers + the armor reduction actually adds notable damage output. SA has been proven to be better than HS spamming.
pro tip; stop using rend after lvl 10
@@Mooxzyea shudnt even talent into it
I'm not recommending Fury because Arms is probably better, but I will say I think Piercing Howl is really underrated in hardcore. It's very good for the situations where you get in trouble, IE mob respawn/mob from behind/need to run with multiple things on you or your group. AOE 50% slow.
Isn't weapon speed not supposed to affect extra attack damages? As far as I remember weapon speed only affected extra attack damage at the very early stages of vanilla and was never brought to classic, so the only benefit you get for slow 2 hand weapons is higher initial damage (as it does obviously still affect white damage).
Warrior is a lot stronger in Classic levelling than anyone wants to admit. Strong passive armor and powerful auto attack with good weapon especially heroic strike removing hit problems, sunder removing enemy armor and demo shout being really strong at low levels. Tons of ways to boost survivability and damage passively through professions. Warrior is not good when getting out of problems, most of which can be avoided with smart gameplay and being prepared with consumes and an escape plan. Retaliation, shield wall and recklessness are the most powerful cooldowns in the game but long timers mean you need to be smart when to use them.
Despite preferring horde for some odd reason I can't get an Orc warrior over level 30 without dying, best I managed was 27 but I just can't keep them alive despite trying 8 times in total. I made a Dwarf warrior and got him to 60 first try. Not sure why that is the case but Alliance areas just seem more forgiving and by 30-40 I had everything I need to hit 60 no problem. Something about The Barrens/Silverpine just lulls me into making stupid mistakes and all it takes is one and it's over.
I’ve had a warrior as my main since WoW launched. I was excited to relive the experience but the hardcore challenge I don’t even know if I want to try. Part of me wants the challenge though.
You should give it a go! It really brought life back into the game for me. Read through these comments and take some notes. The highs are super high but the lows are super low. If you're alliance, beware Mor'ladim!
People talk down on slam because they've never learned to use it. Very strong ability with a slow weapon and when you time it correctly. If you are wearing all mail or plate gear later on, the pushback isn't very significant.
I’ve made 2 warriors and they are beyond geared early. It’s not bad so far.
Haha... "Warrior life ain't easy" is an understatement.
And yet, after levelling in Vanilla/BC, I'm still a glutton for punishment and chose a Warrior in Classic (though as an alt this time).
There's a messed up thing about warriors leveling most people don't get.
Spirit is a decent stat actually, strength gets btfo by virtually any upgrade to weapon damage.
Like for half the game at any low level a quest staff is often the best easily available 2-hander.
Dumb but true.