i play with this loadout a lot, the best party of it is the independence it gives you, you can survive anywhere, you don’t need medics or health packs, you do like a true american and do it by yourself, and yes the best way to play whith black box conch is aggressive and live at the enemy spawn.
@@Stutteringmania I am fan of highlander where sometimes I don't have enought rockets to kill/jump or I can lose too much hp by rocket jumping. Defense I meant steel/payload maps. On casual I also play this loadout but tbh, you have to be lucky to find good scout, soldier, sniper, heavy mains
You should try the box with the buff banner. The health stacking with conch is good and I totally agree with the argument about this being good for aggressive plays, but I find the minicrits from banner guaranteeing your max regen during banner pops is really nice for making up the difference and helps you make up the BB's lowered damage output for big plays when you need it. I think that combo is the one that really shines for passive play and defending objectives compared to a lot of other options in Soldier's kit.
BB plus BB is the true passive players combo, yeah. You take so long to build charges that it really pays off to hang back, I just always die before the dumb thing gets going xD
I was thinking about which rocket launcher I should use, but if you're gonna break my legs, then I already have made my decision. (except when I get the market gardener XD)
@Randomdud751 Ahah!! Well as somebody who has a ton of experience using the kunai, it doesn't really. Being able to escape death immediately after a stab is the point of the weapon; as soon as the target dies, you have a big survivability boost to get away (or go back in). But a spy at 210 health doesn't stay there! The overheal drains quite rapidly, and all it takes is a persistent pyro or scout (or heavy) to chew through all that health. A kunai spy is very dangerous, yes; but I don't think it removes the downsides unless your so good at trick stabbing that every single person who chases you is another health boost (and even then, that's more the fault of players not understanding trick stabbing more so than the spy being too strong) What counters all trick stabbers is airblast. There's nothing a spy can do to stop you from launching him into the air, and once he's up there, he's helpless. The kunai gives a temporary (though strong) boost, and the downside is only ever temporarily nullified. The bazaar bargain, say, completely nullifies it's own downside along with the eyelander.
These guys, I fight 'em with stock, And dang, These 'immortal' soldiers lose it when i know that i can press M2, Are all of these guys sore losers or just the ones i fight? I suppose an all stock pyro with no cosmetics killing you instantly and pulling off combos with a shotgun would definitely be frustrating, And you'd most likely get pissed that a seemingly new player is doing all this with the basic items, But...Like, None of them are chill, In pubs anyway. Is this just a thing i specifically am running into?
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its also known as the "My Medic GF isn't online" Loadout.
I don't have a medic GF so this is my main loadout 😂
@@Stutteringmania Well i just happen to be a medic main. lol
I knew it your pfp is furry
Based comment ;-;
@@Stutteringmania jokes on u furries get all the bitches
also known as "Our medic don't heal us enough" loadout, other than that I prefer stock, gunboats and market gardener
I don’t play soldier all that much, but this loadout actually seems fun now. I usually just do autistic scout tho
Best kind of scout scout
Titanic set of training wheels and free refills at the theater got me lol
i play with this loadout a lot, the best party of it is the independence it gives you, you can survive anywhere, you don’t need medics or health packs, you do like a true american and do it by yourself, and yes the best way to play whith black box conch is aggressive and live at the enemy spawn.
I love you, never stop the uploading.
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For defense, Yes. For offense, stock + gunboats/batalion's backup should be better.
I was just saying this is a great offense Loadout! It heals you so much, why play passive with it?
@@Stutteringmania I am fan of highlander where sometimes I don't have enought rockets to kill/jump or I can lose too much hp by rocket jumping. Defense I meant steel/payload maps. On casual I also play this loadout but tbh, you have to be lucky to find good scout, soldier, sniper, heavy mains
Bah, gunboats! I ONLY rocket jump to go towards the enemy and then DIE.
Despite the video being about a dumb loadout, it is actually really smart
So called "immortal" soldiers when a Australian clicks on his head: 💀
Snipers overrated
You should try the box with the buff banner. The health stacking with conch is good and I totally agree with the argument about this being good for aggressive plays, but I find the minicrits from banner guaranteeing your max regen during banner pops is really nice for making up the difference and helps you make up the BB's lowered damage output for big plays when you need it. I think that combo is the one that really shines for passive play and defending objectives compared to a lot of other options in Soldier's kit.
BB plus BB is the true passive players combo, yeah. You take so long to build charges that it really pays off to hang back, I just always die before the dumb thing gets going xD
@@Stutteringmania I feel that. Half the time I'm on the combo I forget I'm not using gunboats until I check my health when it's too late
Stock + conch or stock + gunboats. Always missing the 4th rocket when using black box
Ah yes, the Crutch loadout.
I mean, as long as it works
I was thinking about which rocket launcher I should use, but if you're gonna break my legs, then I already have made my decision. (except when I get the market gardener XD)
İ think muselk said it first like about 10 years ago?
This video is great XD
(btw, we still havn't finished the Kunai discussion, do you remember?)
Huh? Ive had so many discussions I honestly don't remember. Remind me what we were blabbing about?
@@Stutteringmania We were talking about the Kunai eliminating it's downsides after 1 backstab and thus being a straight upgrade.
@Randomdud751 Ahah!! Well as somebody who has a ton of experience using the kunai, it doesn't really. Being able to escape death immediately after a stab is the point of the weapon; as soon as the target dies, you have a big survivability boost to get away (or go back in). But a spy at 210 health doesn't stay there! The overheal drains quite rapidly, and all it takes is a persistent pyro or scout (or heavy) to chew through all that health. A kunai spy is very dangerous, yes; but I don't think it removes the downsides unless your so good at trick stabbing that every single person who chases you is another health boost (and even then, that's more the fault of players not understanding trick stabbing more so than the spy being too strong)
What counters all trick stabbers is airblast. There's nothing a spy can do to stop you from launching him into the air, and once he's up there, he's helpless. The kunai gives a temporary (though strong) boost, and the downside is only ever temporarily nullified. The bazaar bargain, say, completely nullifies it's own downside along with the eyelander.
Damn you, Stutteringmania! Your points are too strong! You defeated me! Nooooo!
But seriously, I still think the Kunai should be nerfed just a tad so it's not that oppresssive in Casual
1:49 point invalidated u just got a rare high moment
Not so rare when you play soldier
These guys, I fight 'em with stock, And dang, These 'immortal' soldiers lose it when i know that i can press M2, Are all of these guys sore losers or just the ones i fight? I suppose an all stock pyro with no cosmetics killing you instantly and pulling off combos with a shotgun would definitely be frustrating, And you'd most likely get pissed that a seemingly new player is doing all this with the basic items, But...Like, None of them are chill, In pubs anyway. Is this just a thing i specifically am running into?
Eh, no idea! I've never encountered it, but I don't doubt it's happened. Probably just sore losers lmao
2:07 😂🤣
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OHH YEAHHH--the Kool aid mam
I’m laughing but you didn’t make me laugh
I laugh at the fact that you think you are funny
Still made you laugh
Still funny
I win