Honestly, the organizers of that event had a huge hand in this. Every country has cheaters bro - but for moderators to let things get so far before even trying to inspect things makes people think they are too lax about anti-cheat. Hell over here in the USA we’ve had *WAY* more cheaters than you and you guys have like 4 times our population. You just have stricter measures against hackers in future events in India.
I remembered that. I felt really bad for all the players trying to prove that they can compete. Their region had talent and this single action put a pile of dirt on a closed coffin.
@@kopsi.There are far better players in indian cs community but unfortunately he was the one who got the chance to represent it😢 and he shattered the dreams of thousands of players who had the skills and wanted to prove themselves.
ibp at the time had alot of financial impact on the community plus matchfixing is a complete scum level of dishonestly where players will feel less invested in the pro scene. Cheaters will always slip up and are easy to spot.
He only got unbanned from playing developer-sponsored events. No sane team would pick him anyways. Once your fck up your reputation like that, you permaban yourself from playing professional anyways.
Lol, how many pros how many company knew everything but act like they didn't know. CS is a trash game from now like the French justice. If you don't cheat on CS you are just dumb. Everybody is cheating even when you think they are not.
It was not the anti cheat which find it, it is Windows defender :D The windows antivirus detected weird files and send a report to the admin, that is why they didn't checked any further the first time.
5 year ban is probably ok. What team would want to play with him now? Any win will be under massive scrutiny. If he does well, it will be questioned. I think there should be special rules for returning cheaters on lan and that is they don't get to bring their own hardware. Mouse, keyboard, and headset will be provided for them.
@@HajileMalach pretty sure only the pc and the monitor are provided by the organizers. Would be weird having to play with a m&k that you're not used to.
@@HajileMalachagain with this NPC response, idk why people like you feel the need to lie about this. No, nobody is giving the players mice, keyboards or headsets you people are lying about it for like 8 years by now.
Forsaken unbanned before me… using a game exploit on faceit (sound bug) and ban evasion (playing on an alt) is apparently worse than using hacks!? Been banned for 3+ years
Do i really think hid teamates and manager and his staff didnt knew he was cheating but he was the only one blamed why ??? His teamates are still playing why ?
There are people who have used a cheat on their main in matchmaking that probably regret it and get permanently banned but when a guy tries using cheats to win money from a tournament he gets a 5 year ban?
I remember playing on Sostronk (Indian Faceit) and used to have Tyloo players in the lobby in my team they always knew he was hacking. When Optic came to India, they had trials for the team and everybody in the semi pro scene knew the trials were just a pretense and the team was already decided. His teammates in Optic India once substituted themselves in an Indian tournament against us in the first round when they were losing 9-2 and beat us 16-14 and went on to win the Tournament only for them to be DQ'd later.
There are far better players in indian cs community but unfortunately he was the one who got the chance to represent it😢 and he shattered the dreams of thousands of players who had the skills and wanted to prove themselves.
He literally ruined a literal country's chance at proving their skill at the most popular competitive fps game and you had the *audacity* to say "5 years is too much omg" so casually, the balls 5 years is even better for him, dare i say that hes so lucky, most of the time its just *insta perm-banned.* Once its ruined, its over for them, what is broken, is broken.
@@Kurookie It reminds me of Dasani in England and why that failed. Orgs not wanting to attempt again is now on them. They are the ones no longer partaking. You can say it that kids fault, and it is the reason they see it as a risk... but it's the companies who are still deciding not to come back there. It's broken because the organisations have decided they don't want to come back.
There are people in Indian gaming community who would very much like meet this guy in person. We had a good thing going, it was working for us. He destroyed it.
Valve has a rule that if you are vac banned, it’s permanent and remains indefinitely on your account. But this guy can cheat, on a lan, which should also constitute as a VAC ban, but after 5 years, all good man, come on back.
i live in asia and have competed against him twice :) was always sus to us but gave him the benefit of doubt cus who would cheat in a tournament right?
this was one of the dumbest cheating attempts at LAN ... that said, I am certain that there are several pros who are cheating. DEFINITELY cheating to get into the scene and most likely even some undetected cheaters in pro teams.
Valve doesnt give 2 shits about cs, this has has been true since the early days of cs go, only difference is now its getting more agressively blatant... its actually laughable how out of touch with their own community they are on topics such as anti cheat, tickrate and in general which features/aspects of the game are mote important to the community than others...
Both should be a life time ban. Can't trust a cheater, can't trust a match fixer. Harsh? perhaps, but there are more deserving players than those who cheat or lose on purpose to get a few extra bucks/skins.
That's wild to me that he gets 5 when the IBP players got Life. They're both equally harmful to competitive integrity. Steel is finally getting unbanned after 10 years in January, And he's the only one because he made a anti fixing PSA, donated to charity, helped develop the tier 2 NA scene and kept his nose clean. Word.exe dude didn't do shit to get unbanned.
I don't understand how he could cheat for the first time? isn't it easy to just request every pro player to send their pre - game commands before hand and the organisers just set everything up for them before hand? like monitors, cfgs from every player, gpu config and so on? isn't that easier than just let every player install their cheats from their own usb full cheats?
No - I mean maybe there was something on the side where Windows Defender was also going off, but the anti-cheat at the lan was certainly going off multiple times. It was a wild situation.
Lifetime ban wont solve thing. It might be hard to accept, but 5 years is very long time in sport, specially in one where age matters. Those 5 years lost and shadow on him, will be hauntig him forever. Its very unlikely any decent team will want him in, as there is no way of telling if he do it again. Cheating is corruption of mind simillar to drug addiction. Can he accept his fails, or look for shortcut again...hard to say.
My opinion about the 5 years ban is the following: when a Random person cheats in matchmaking and gets banned does It have a Second chance? No. Then why should "pro players" have a second chance? Its a biassed decision in my opinion!!!!
Well to be fair, 2 years, 5 years whatever, i think no org will take this guy on a team after that. He's a literal meme for cheating so its basically a permaban if you ask me.
i think that's fine let him try again it's not an easy to re enter the pro scene you gotta commit and sacrifice your career for going to tournament and if he cheats again just ban him again let him waste his time
i only have one state of a mind - once a cheater, always a cheater! ps: same goes for people they have a Faceit Ban but complain about cheating in a different game. It doesnt matter in fact, they just didnt got detected yet. No one should take away someone's joy about a game. The only thing ruining a Game is a Cheater or a Modder!
Why game developers and all players sign petition to change law for cheater dev, and cheating ppl to suffer by the law fixing matches too should be fine GRAND one, 2000h community work and prison time, and not sitin in jail but hard working. ppl would be scarred to cheat.
A 5 year ban is pretty standard if you compare to bans in other sports codes for like doping or throwing or testing positive for recreational drugs. Very rarely do sports ever dish out lifetime bans and often it is a case of matchfixing which will incur that sort of permanent outcome so I would actually say it's pretty on par with what we see elsewhere. Secondly, it's actually ESIC, Esports Integrity Commission who is responsible for the investigation and the recommendation of the ban length. So it's not a decision made by Valve. Edit: Ian Smith , the commissioner at ESIC was quoted as saying that he hopes he never sees forsaken in professional cs again.
He should have been banned perm. No second chances. You know the consequences of Cheating no matter the age. There are consequences, for ever action you take. In your entire career J man, I've not once see you have to ever resort to cheating. This guy needs to be dealt with properly otherwise Valve will have cheater after cheater competing making money at events cheaters have no business competing in. If not the pro scene will be known across the world as Cheaters club.
"How one guy deleted an entire region from the CS scene"
Honestly, the organizers of that event had a huge hand in this. Every country has cheaters bro - but for moderators to let things get so far before even trying to inspect things makes people think they are too lax about anti-cheat.
Hell over here in the USA we’ve had *WAY* more cheaters than you and you guys have like 4 times our population. You just have stricter measures against hackers in future events in India.
I remembered that. I felt really bad for all the players trying to prove that they can compete. Their region had talent and this single action put a pile of dirt on a closed coffin.
@@kopsi.There are far better players in indian cs community but unfortunately he was the one who got the chance to represent it😢 and he shattered the dreams of thousands of players who had the skills and wanted to prove themselves.
Whats wrong with that?
the audacity to keep hitting aim lock after the first time it clips a wall lol
valve probably figured if everyone else is allowed to cheat in cs2 they might as well unban this guy
hahahaha. not only that, they let a known match fixer to freaking cast their tournaments xDD
i don't care if he get unban since the most crucial aspect is that he destroyed Indians and they are now well know as lier/scammer
LMAO
@@Kelly-dl8hj they always were
@@巾bruh
He didn't shift delete the files, he shift deleted the eSports India for pc
He gets a 5 year and ibp gets a lifetime is insane
Yeah cheating at this level should be lifetime ban. If you can't respect the integrity you shouldn't be able to compete
Ibp is getting unbanned next year
its not 5 years ago, right… RIGHT
@@mrpinguin9189 its actually 6
ibp at the time had alot of financial impact on the community plus matchfixing is a complete scum level of dishonestly where players will feel less invested in the pro scene. Cheaters will always slip up and are easy to spot.
He only got unbanned from playing developer-sponsored events. No sane team would pick him anyways. Once your fck up your reputation like that, you permaban yourself from playing professional anyways.
WE WILL SEE
Its 2025 soon man.
Lol, how many pros how many company knew everything but act like they didn't know. CS is a trash game from now like the French justice. If you don't cheat on CS you are just dumb. Everybody is cheating even when you think they are not.
I agree, no one would pick this kid lol😂
Brother no way he got unbanned!
HE'S INNOCENT FREE MY MAN!
@@mlgtactics9911 forsaken is the diddler?!?!
Free forsaken school walkout
He touched the diddler
He wasn't banned permanently
It was not the anti cheat which find it, it is Windows defender :D
The windows antivirus detected weird files and send a report to the admin, that is why they didn't checked any further the first time.
mf was using ezfrags 😭
bro cant even pay for a cheat 😭
Imagine paying for a cheat to play a game you suck at, just to feel good about yourself 😂😂😂
@@TurtleFootMiningthe thing is he’s not even bad tho he just isn’t good enough to be in the love he’s at
Imagine him cheating with Fata or GS
@@nasayunahvh back in the day for sure. now hell no
Forsaken unbanned before gta6, now we have seen it all
Indian CS after this happened📉📉
iBUYPOWER getting a perma ban for match fixing and he gets off after 5 years is nutty.
Or even better more pros allowed to cheat and make money and nothing will ever come of it. Shroud...
@@WhiteWishesHD Yep shroud was pretty obv back in the day
5 year ban is probably ok. What team would want to play with him now? Any win will be under massive scrutiny. If he does well, it will be questioned. I think there should be special rules for returning cheaters on lan and that is they don't get to bring their own hardware. Mouse, keyboard, and headset will be provided for them.
Mouse, keyboard and headset are already all provided by the LAN organisers.
@@HajileMalach pretty sure only the pc and the monitor are provided by the organizers. Would be weird having to play with a m&k that you're not used to.
They also provide communication headset.
there shouldn't be. permanent ban for all cheaters, period.
@@HajileMalachagain with this NPC response, idk why people like you feel the need to lie about this. No, nobody is giving the players mice, keyboards or headsets you people are lying about it for like 8 years by now.
Forsaken unbanned before me… using a game exploit on faceit (sound bug) and ban evasion (playing on an alt) is apparently worse than using hacks!? Been banned for 3+ years
You both cheated though.. He's only unbanned from valve hosted stuff, he's still banned on steam and faceit.
your still cheating so I don't know why you feel your not as guilty as forsaken
Dude.... you cheated. Deal with it.
Sit
@@colethornton9095 i got banned cause I'm a cheater. Keep crying 😢 😭 😪
How tf blud got away with ezfrags 😭
Community: Ban the cheaters.
Valve: Let’s unban the cheaters.
Do i really think hid teamates and manager and his staff didnt knew he was cheating but he was the only one blamed why ??? His teamates are still playing why ?
Not playing this shit anymore. Cheaters on leaderboards and now unbanning them like there is not enough of them. Wild
There are people who have used a cheat on their main in matchmaking that probably regret it and get permanently banned but when a guy tries using cheats to win money from a tournament he gets a 5 year ban?
The difference is, youre making money for a big company. And the jobless friend at thursdays doesnt
Legends says that Clara was the one who supplied the cheats to forsaken.
definitely that alien-eyed girl supplied the cheats
This is not okay
I remember playing on Sostronk (Indian Faceit) and used to have Tyloo players in the lobby in my team they always knew he was hacking. When Optic came to India, they had trials for the team and everybody in the semi pro scene knew the trials were just a pretense and the team was already decided. His teammates in Optic India once substituted themselves in an Indian tournament against us in the first round when they were losing 9-2 and beat us 16-14 and went on to win the Tournament only for them to be DQ'd later.
the forsaken situation is crazy...
So what is the diference between Forsaken locks, and Sheeppa and leaf locks???? No difference at all.
You are absolutely right, mfs locking like it was 2017 and their name was Subroza
forsaken unbanned before brax
him getting unbanned before swag is heresy and a fucking shame.
There are far better players in indian cs community but unfortunately he was the one who got the chance to represent it😢 and he shattered the dreams of thousands of players who had the skills and wanted to prove themselves.
Major MVP,, welcome back!
This year can't even get any crazier.
once a cheater always a cheater
Not always, people can change. Not many do though.
Nope wrong
How do you think astralis was on top😊
Don’t think anyone in the competitive esports industry will even want to anything with him and it’s just that simple
Im gonna greet him personally is he dares to show up
Oooo we got a tough guy
ur not intimidating
Wasn't he playing as Phorzacan anyway?
The legend is back
5 years is a long time. I don't think anyone should be banned that long tbh. I'm not the same person I was 5 years ago. I doubt he is too.
Agreed
He literally ruined a literal country's chance at proving their skill at the most popular competitive fps game and you had the *audacity* to say "5 years is too much omg" so casually, the balls
5 years is even better for him, dare i say that hes so lucky, most of the time its just *insta perm-banned.*
Once its ruined, its over for them, what is broken, is broken.
@@Kurookie It reminds me of Dasani in England and why that failed. Orgs not wanting to attempt again is now on them. They are the ones no longer partaking. You can say it that kids fault, and it is the reason they see it as a risk... but it's the companies who are still deciding not to come back there. It's broken because the organisations have decided they don't want to come back.
Ibp coming back and have their sticker in gold, that’s the time world explodes
So he gets unbanned but if you cheat in a csgo game an get vac banned you are banned for life. Sounds fair.
There are people in Indian gaming community who would very much like meet this guy in person. We had a good thing going, it was working for us. He destroyed it.
Any cheater should BAN for lifetime!
Valve has a rule that if you are vac banned, it’s permanent and remains indefinitely on your account. But this guy can cheat, on a lan, which should also constitute as a VAC ban, but after 5 years, all good man, come on back.
If it was almost anyone else, ban is permanent!
unbanning hackers from comp is dumb. once a hacker always a hacker. its not hard to not cheat it takes effort to be a pos
Very idealistic statement so what you said can't be true
I got a perm ban for using a skin changer. They got a 5 year ban for cheating. Just think on that.
one word describes this creature starts with P letter. You know it.
Moojeet
God, I miss seeing Train in the map pool. I wonder if he is going to try to make a comeback?
i don't think so. He was sitting on the bomb when it exploded lol
How one guy single handledy destroyed a whole country careers in by giving them tons of scam calls and ruining his country word . Exe is so iconic
the goat is back
Let's see forsaken again in match
i live in asia and have competed against him twice :)
was always sus to us but gave him the benefit of doubt cus who would cheat in a tournament right?
Lol yeah who actually cheats? LOL my god your lQ is room temperature.
this was one of the dumbest cheating attempts at LAN ... that said, I am certain that there are several pros who are cheating. DEFINITELY cheating to get into the scene and most likely even some undetected cheaters in pro teams.
Every cheater in every game that has pvp should be perma'd as long as theres proof and not just they THINK it needs to be definitive proof.
wasn't ez frag the cheat that was getting detected the first 30 minutes of gameplay lmao?
Totally forgotten… 5 years aint enough
This guy ruined india cs. If you go to any indian cs pro tournament stream there are so many people referencing forsaken and txt.exe
2018 ? man , im too old now ....
15 years of ban so he would have only couple of chances during his lifetime to show hes trustworthy
Valve doesnt give 2 shits about cs, this has has been true since the early days of cs go, only difference is now its getting more agressively blatant... its actually laughable how out of touch with their own community they are on topics such as anti cheat, tickrate and in general which features/aspects of the game are mote important to the community than others...
Both should be a life time ban. Can't trust a cheater, can't trust a match fixer.
Harsh? perhaps, but there are more deserving players than those who cheat or lose on purpose to get a few extra bucks/skins.
The punishment doesn't match the crime. So your wrong
@@OnlyShotty-k1s Why not?
I still love that he used ez frags in a pro lan 😂
d4v4i, now famouse Valorant player making a guest appearence
forsaken got unbanned before we got gta 6 😭😭
forsaken gets banned again for as he deleted the region from cs scene with word. exe
that's what that smell was
That's wild to me that he gets 5 when the IBP players got Life. They're both equally harmful to competitive integrity. Steel is finally getting unbanned after 10 years in January, And he's the only one because he made a anti fixing PSA, donated to charity, helped develop the tier 2 NA scene and kept his nose clean. Word.exe dude didn't do shit to get unbanned.
the seal is broken
once a cheater is always a cheater .
That's not true
I don't understand how he could cheat for the first time? isn't it easy to just request every pro player to send their pre - game commands before hand and the organisers just set everything up for them before hand? like monitors, cfgs from every player, gpu config and so on? isn't that easier than just let every player install their cheats from their own usb full cheats?
forsaken > zywoo monesy s1mple donk niko combined
tf u tryna prove?
That cs is easier with hax and hax in cs is easy@@sauravtank8389
@@sauravtank8389sarcasm boy
Optic would have brought India to the tier1 CSGO on same level with China had they didnt signed forsaken
These rules make no sense, he shouldn't be allowed to touch the game ever again, let alone competing in tournaments
Was it not that it actually WINDOWS DEFENDER that flagged his cheat and NOT an anti-cheat itself??
No - I mean maybe there was something on the side where Windows Defender was also going off, but the anti-cheat at the lan was certainly going off multiple times. It was a wild situation.
@@sephondranzerno the anticheat was not “going off”, it is manual review from admins that did file recovery of the ezfrags he deleted in front of them
Id understand if you're gonna cheat to join the pro, but in the actual scene bruh.
Lifetime ban wont solve thing. It might be hard to accept, but 5 years is very long time in sport, specially in one where age matters. Those 5 years lost and shadow on him, will be hauntig him forever. Its very unlikely any decent team will want him in, as there is no way of telling if he do it again. Cheating is corruption of mind simillar to drug addiction. Can he accept his fails, or look for shortcut again...hard to say.
Now 95% of the playersbase cheats way harder than him. Good Job Valve for doing literally nothing.
when i get a perm ban for using cheats in a 1v1 with a friend then he should also be perm banned
😢
Maybe Valve can start a hvh pro scene. Maybe.
My opinion about the 5 years ban is the following: when a Random person cheats in matchmaking and gets banned does It have a Second chance? No.
Then why should "pro players" have a second chance?
Its a biassed decision in my opinion!!!!
If Windows has a better anti cheat than anyone else...
should've been permanent
should've been permanent i agree
and poggu is still banned for fixing bugs
funniest thing is that ezfrags is a meme cheat lmao it's just bait for new cheaters to get vac banned
Bans should life. And banned from every tournament..
Well to be fair, 2 years, 5 years whatever, i think no org will take this guy on a team after that. He's a literal meme for cheating so its basically a permaban if you ask me.
yet brax is still banned for matchfixing this is complete bs lmao
5 years was enough
excel.exe coming soon 👽👽
zoom.exe
i think that's fine let him try again it's not an easy to re enter the pro scene you gotta commit and sacrifice your career for going to tournament and if he cheats again just ban him again let him waste his time
Washed up or not, don't let these people play in the 'big stage' ever again. Especially on how he tried to cover up his cheating.
Foreskin now back to cs 😢
what is his steam id
first ban - 5 years 2nd ban - he shouldnt be allowed to play cs competitively ever. thats how i see it.
NAVI,G2,Team liquad,team spirit,,faze clan buy forsaken now before its too late the king is back
both ibuypower and forsaken should have gotten perma ban...
Nope that's overkill
i only have one state of a mind - once a cheater, always a cheater!
ps: same goes for people they have a Faceit Ban but complain about cheating in a different game. It doesnt matter in fact, they just didnt got detected yet.
No one should take away someone's joy about a game. The only thing ruining a Game is a Cheater or a Modder!
Why game developers and all players sign petition to change law for cheater dev, and cheating ppl to suffer by the law
fixing matches too
should be fine GRAND one, 2000h community work
and prison time, and not sitin in jail but hard working.
ppl would be scarred to cheat.
A 5 year ban is pretty standard if you compare to bans in other sports codes for like doping or throwing or testing positive for recreational drugs. Very rarely do sports ever dish out lifetime bans and often it is a case of matchfixing which will incur that sort of permanent outcome so I would actually say it's pretty on par with what we see elsewhere. Secondly, it's actually ESIC, Esports Integrity Commission who is responsible for the investigation and the recommendation of the ban length. So it's not a decision made by Valve. Edit: Ian Smith , the commissioner at ESIC was quoted as saying that he hopes he never sees forsaken in professional cs again.
Valve's priorities are fucked. Period.
His name should be Forgotten 😂
He has faceit level 7 movement. Wtf bro 🤣🤣🤣
Brother ewwww
he gets a 5 year ban where ibp's braxton gets a perma ban make that shit make sense
He should have been banned perm. No second chances. You know the consequences of Cheating no matter the age. There are consequences, for ever action you take. In your entire career J man, I've not once see you have to ever resort to cheating. This guy needs to be dealt with properly otherwise Valve will have cheater after cheater competing making money at events cheaters have no business competing in. If not the pro scene will be known across the world as Cheaters club.