Are These CSGO Pros Cheating? | A Cheater's Perspective

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  • @NoHyper
    @NoHyper  2 роки тому +290

    Hopefully you all enjoyed! If you did, please leave a like and subscribe. This is by far the longest video I've ever made, both in length and time to create. Love you guys

    • @futuristic-
      @futuristic- 2 роки тому +14

      These type of videos are way better and way more original. Would love to see more.

    • @kwjc01
      @kwjc01 2 роки тому +5

      i love how unique your vids are compared to the hvh scene. Nice work.

    • @Rootzi
      @Rootzi 2 роки тому +4

      more of these documentary type videos they are brilliant

    • @luke7367
      @luke7367 2 роки тому

      Hi I Need arget helpI bought an account of g2g and Its chinse or smt and idk how to log on or anything about it please add me on discord or help me

    • @verylongchannelhandle
      @verylongchannelhandle 2 роки тому +3

      Did not expect this type of video from you tbh! Very well done and it's clear you put a lot of effort into it! Good job

  • @beeeeeej
    @beeeeeej 2 роки тому +2661

    Honestly it’s so hard to judge some clips because everything we see as a spectator, is not what the players see. Things such as latency, monitor, screen resolution, settings.

    • @JohnWick-ch3ix
      @JohnWick-ch3ix 2 роки тому +182

      The most important you forgot the brain of other player

    • @Mahjoneesi
      @Mahjoneesi 2 роки тому +124

      Especially when people "trace" enemies through walls. It's most of the times just muscle memory doing it's job. Of course in some cases there are cheats involved.

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 2 роки тому +15

      All these variables can be replicated, tested and can be subject to statistical analysis. Essentially measuring how much of these variables actually make a difference and how can we reduce their impact so we can observe and investigate or detect with the least error rate possible.

    • @arizonad8012
      @arizonad8012 2 роки тому +27

      Acually is not.I've played CS 1.6 and now CS GO (started from last year), and I was always able to say who is cheating.Even in the open, based on how the player reacts.The point is that people from organizations don't care.When CS 1.6 was popular there were maps that you can choose, made by various people, each of those maps had admins who took care, so no cheaters could survive.You find someone suspisious, you record him/her using cheats and you ban him/her.End of story.Those were good times.Now you find a cheater, you record him/her, report him/her, and nothing happens which encourages more and more people to use it.

    • @dagroseren
      @dagroseren 2 роки тому +13

      @@Mahjoneesi I have a friend that can track people with sound only, not a good player otherwise, which when watching him do it from spectating looks sketch af

  • @NitishDobhal
    @NitishDobhal 2 роки тому +749

    Its amazing how forsaken single handedly destroyed a potential millions dollar worth of Indian gaming industry

    • @taekwondoinc.2279
      @taekwondoinc.2279 2 роки тому +30

      Yeh no If they were good they wpuldve pushed through all that

    • @lternatively
      @lternatively Рік тому +97

      @@taekwondoinc.2279 oh for sure buddy. you must know all about csgo professional leagues.

    • @nlnd6490
      @nlnd6490 Рік тому +1

      Hahaha

    • @legitfake4786
      @legitfake4786 Рік тому +3

      Valve do not support us look at Valorant they have Indian servers in CSGO we have to play with Singaporean servers. Valorant also supports eSports in India and Asia. Bruh valve is arrogant.

    • @strikefreedom2846
      @strikefreedom2846 Рік тому +39

      @@legitfake4786 valve dpes have indian servers? They even have dubai servers lol

  • @wallthemart
    @wallthemart 2 роки тому +973

    The 1v4 clutch final shot is probably due to spectator tick rate. Any remotely quick flick looks like that when spectating. How you tell its legit is the overtravel. After the shot u can see his crosshair followthrough the swing and swings back to centre. Its quite fluid and normal.

    • @dylanbishop4175
      @dylanbishop4175 Рік тому +17

      People also forget nearly all CSGO pros play on Stretched rez which quite literally makes the players and their hit boxes twice the size, so whilst he may not have been there on a non stretched rez monitor he most likely would be in stretched.. CSGO is skunked for Stretched rez, it literally gives you 2 free rankups

    • @Mixu.
      @Mixu. Рік тому +159

      @@dylanbishop4175 that's... not how that works. The hitboxes are always the same size, and in terms of spectators seeing what the players see, both see the crosshair be either on target or off target always in the same way.
      Stretched simply makes the picture on your screen... stretched. It changes nothing in the engine of the game or the server.

    • @dylanbishop4175
      @dylanbishop4175 Рік тому +4

      @@Mixu. that's quite literally how it works. If you play CS on 16:9 the players are thinner, on 4:3 the players are quite literally stretched and they're larger, if you haven't played CSGO on stretched then don't comment. And if you have, then you're obviously dumb. Especially considering there's UA-cam videos about people using stretch rez for specifically that reason. It's also why stretch is less common on Valorant, because it doesn't do anything on Valo, but the CS game engine changes with different rez

    • @Mixu.
      @Mixu. Рік тому +78

      @@dylanbishop4175 most top players play stretched in Valorant Rainbow six siege and many other games for prefernce reasons-, because it zooms in the view a bit-, and because there's less things on screen to be distracted by (the sides get cut off).
      Go in game, aim at the edge of a character, change resolution and be amazed.
      Or just stay ignorant, won't change my life.

    • @arty6287
      @arty6287 Рік тому +34

      @@dylanbishop4175 No, the players are stretched on your monitor, there’s a difference between client-side and serverside. So while the players are stretched on a 4:3 res on your client, in actuality from the perspective of the server they have the same hitbox.

  • @Astrohhh
    @Astrohhh Рік тому +397

    m0NESY is without a doubt one of the most naturally gifted players I've ever seen. His movement, awareness, and reaction time puts him in a different league, and I always find it funny when people accuse him of cheating. He has over 17k hours played.. more than some pros who have been playing competitively for over 10 years. The kid puts in so much work, and it's pretty cool to see him shining with a S-tier team. He's going to be the next s1mple.

    • @Cr4zy4pple
      @Cr4zy4pple Рік тому +8

      b-b-but simple was banned before on alt account and has a billion suspicious clips lol

    • @Vinicantstopcrying
      @Vinicantstopcrying Рік тому +13

      ​@@Cr4zy4pple
      Anyone can be banned in alter ACC. I once downloaded cheat to test how it looks just to test so I wouldn't accuse everyone of a cheater in my main account..... Testing cheats in alter ACC made me understand who are real cheater or just ( good player/smurf) accurately.....I deleted the account after playing 10 competitive games and it got a game ban later.

    • @Cr4zy4pple
      @Cr4zy4pple Рік тому

      @@Vinicantstopcrying and that's fine cus u aren't deceiving your audience. He hides cheats for a living, pathetic

    • @akeeMM
      @akeeMM Рік тому

      @@Vinicantstopcrying It was ESIC.

    • @Satanascs
      @Satanascs Рік тому

      yeah i think monesy is just good

  • @cradleofgoth
    @cradleofgoth 2 роки тому +200

    Wow, someone discussing cheating without accusing everyone possible and without using made up terms, like a breath of fresh air! Good stuff, although I'm sad you didn't include KQLY, I think if you exclude recency bias he's much better known than forsaken.

    • @LE0619
      @LE0619 Рік тому

      except those "terms" arent made up, ur just not smart enough to understand.

    • @cradleofgoth
      @cradleofgoth Рік тому

      @@LE0619 technically every single term is made up

    • @LE0619
      @LE0619 Рік тому +3

      @@cradleofgoth yea no ur wrong, u dont know what ur talking about

    • @kamay7021
      @kamay7021 Рік тому

      Why would he bring up KQLY? KQLY is known for cheating already

    • @cradleofgoth
      @cradleofgoth Рік тому +4

      @Kamay because if you want to prove others are cheating without anticheat software, you need to look for clues in people who you know were cheating.

  • @yav1d
    @yav1d 2 роки тому +309

    This was honestly a skyscraper jump up from your previous content. Good to see the improvements

  • @lolwhatever7307
    @lolwhatever7307 Рік тому +7

    Imo the most insane thing about akuma drama was gambit destroying blantant cheaters in an unfair fight. It just shows how ridiculously good they were during the online era

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  Рік тому +3

      they might've switch on and off, no clue obviously but it would be impressive if they were still cheating and gambit smashed them

  • @y-qp9rw
    @y-qp9rw Рік тому +24

    it's always been insane and hilarious to me how everyone in the region already knew forsaken was a cheater and his understanding of the game was leagues worse than any of the other players in the Indian competitive scene and Optic still decided to pick him up.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Рік тому +5

      as if orgs give a shit whether their players are cheating

    • @mkzhero
      @mkzhero Рік тому

      Nah. People just overlook it completely all the time in the pro scene, usually it's only when stuff gets too blatant too often that anyone reacts at all. Forsaken was cheating for like TWO HOURS with some very blatant moments, but they allowed him to keep playing and there was no vac detection either, so both the anti cheat and spectators missed or ignored it it entirely.

  • @DigitalTheAlchemist
    @DigitalTheAlchemist 2 роки тому +146

    Love the editing and Documentary-esc style of the video. Would love to see more like this

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому +3

      thanks, I think I will do videos like this every so often

  • @thetrashycan
    @thetrashycan 2 роки тому +186

    Well edited but I think it would be more interesting to investigate cases like JW admitting to pasha that his team was cheating and a lot of the other 2012-2013 cheating/throwing cases and those where it's possible people could have cheated on LAN. Also the smoke bug where you can see someone through it is caused by a nade going off in the smoke

    • @briankim7442
      @briankim7442 2 роки тому +11

      wait what?? JW admitted cheating? I cant believe so... JW is still playing now a days. no one would allow a confessed cheater to keep playing

    • @purplepew3247
      @purplepew3247 2 роки тому

      @@briankim7442 his team*

    • @sharktheprez
      @sharktheprez 2 роки тому +45

      Gonna need a link or source for that JW thing. Wtf?

    • @erty2389
      @erty2389 2 роки тому +16

      That didnt happen

    • @Psycho345
      @Psycho345 2 роки тому

      @@sharktheprez ua-cam.com/video/T379cF9yud8/v-deo.html

  • @t3h51d3w1nd3r
    @t3h51d3w1nd3r 2 роки тому +9

    There was also no delay in streaming the matches to the public, so Akuma could have been using that too, plus I don’t think they recorded players in game info so it’s hard to know what everyone was doing.

  • @casp3r190
    @casp3r190 2 роки тому +42

    I really enjoyed this video, very nicely explained, nicely edited, a lot of information, especially for leaf mouse jump on overpass thing that you did, you explained step by step what could have been leaf's logic and why he played like this, liked this vid, hopefully we will see more, and some more info about Akuma matches, the tournament had no anti-cheat which you mentioned, but you didn't mention that the GOTV had no delay, so people would probably ghost another team, and a lot of people accused Akuma players to use a radar hack, but most likely they were ghosting due to GOTV having no delay, but still a very nice video, keep up the good work man :D

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks Casp3r, didn't even realize that they didn't have a GOTV delay, knowing that it's very possible that they may have had something overlaid on their screens.

  • @WilCraft624
    @WilCraft624 2 роки тому +14

    Looking forward for part 2. Great job keep up the good work!

  • @JavaGenbuAIM
    @JavaGenbuAIM 3 місяці тому

    Nice video. It’s sad to think how difficult it is to detect a cheater nowadays. I remember being disqualified from an important tournament years ago by a team that was banned months later for using cheats.
    It’s very unfair how people like this can ruin tournaments and even careers.

  • @pretzelhugs3751
    @pretzelhugs3751 Рік тому +3

    Great video, only thing that I noticed was leafs "monster flick" the reason I think it was so fast was he was crouched for the spam and uncrouched when he adjusted his xhair up after spraying so it just looked like a big adjustment for only a minute adjustment

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Рік тому

      i have flicked further than that in 1 tick, it can cause some funny looking issues with gotv demos

  • @Vulcan1k
    @Vulcan1k 2 роки тому +170

    I have never liked cheating in games and I dislike the people that do but I respect you for your entertaining videos and how you teach people about the cheats and provide good insight into how they work. I would love to see more of these videos

    • @chronickush420
      @chronickush420 2 роки тому +35

      Biggest npc comment

    • @gusfalk
      @gusfalk 2 роки тому

      @@chronickush420 ye

    • @doktormozg
      @doktormozg 2 роки тому +1

      @@chronickush420 sit

    • @chronickush420
      @chronickush420 2 роки тому

      @@doktormozg this keyboard playing cheating crackhead tryna tell me what to do😂

    • @chronickush420
      @chronickush420 2 роки тому +1

      @@doktormozg lay down the pipe bro😂🤣

  • @thepowerlies
    @thepowerlies 2 роки тому +31

    It always baffles me how Forsaken got so far without anyone noticing the lack of skill

    • @thatcooldudeisawesome876
      @thatcooldudeisawesome876 Рік тому +1

      He was still an extremely skilled player just with cheats ontop

    • @AkshatSTR8EDGE
      @AkshatSTR8EDGE Рік тому +5

      @@thatcooldudeisawesome876 extremely skilled player? No he wasnt. His awareness and aim sucked man 💀

    • @mikehunt7410
      @mikehunt7410 Рік тому

      @@thatcooldudeisawesome876 He was cheating in pugs and qualifiers. He's a bucket of feces.

  • @antond131
    @antond131 2 роки тому +16

    For the case of flusha just look at all the times he messed up, when you play on the biggest stage for that long ofc you gonna hit and do insane stuff

    • @Cornell90
      @Cornell90 2 роки тому

      Thanks for the laugh. Keep being ignorant

    • @dabunnykilla2
      @dabunnykilla2 Рік тому

      Nah, the clear case for me that he was cheating was on mirage where he shot through the wall with no indication a player was there

    • @oat1000
      @oat1000 Рік тому +6

      @@dabunnykilla2 it's a common spot, and flusha knew where he was. Not too crazy for him to take a couple pot shots to try and get a lucky kill

    • @Nooraksi
      @Nooraksi Рік тому +3

      ​@@dabunnykilla2 biggest indication here is that you are a silver bot!!!

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Рік тому +1

      As I always say about Flusha If he was cheating he was smart and got out early before he could get caught

  • @JustDeeR6
    @JustDeeR6 10 місяців тому +15

    Kind of weird for a CS:GO cheater to comment on genuinely a good players skill level. If you're cheating in CS, you're terrible at the game, so it's obvious that when legit players do stuff you need hacks for, you'll think they're also cheating.

    • @Tuho420
      @Tuho420 7 місяців тому +1

      thats not true 😂

    • @JustDeeR6
      @JustDeeR6 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Tuho420 It absolutely is.
      If I can play completely legit at a level that you need cheats to play at, you're going to hackusate me because I'm doing what you can only do while cheating.
      This is mainly directed towards closet cheaters, aka "legit cheaters" - the ones who try to play it off like they're not cheating.

    • @Tuho420
      @Tuho420 7 місяців тому +1

      @@JustDeeR6 bro... im silver without cheats and i know how it looks to play insanely good and 95% of legit cheaters are obivious but its idea is to not get overwatch banned

    • @JustDeeR6
      @JustDeeR6 7 місяців тому +7

      @@Tuho420 You're.. THE LOWEST RANK without cheats and you know how it looks to play insanely good??????? No, no you do not.

    • @dinix2956
      @dinix2956 2 місяці тому

      It's super easy to play with aim only without wallhacks. You'll not be spotted 98% of the time

  • @futuristic-
    @futuristic- 2 роки тому +12

    Cheating as a pro is so messed up

    • @monlizhx
      @monlizhx 2 роки тому +2

      Pov: Controller players in fortnite 😵😵😵

    • @freerobuxgotomychannel7179
      @freerobuxgotomychannel7179 2 роки тому

      @@monlizhx pov: pc players against console

    • @monlizhx
      @monlizhx 2 роки тому

      @@freerobuxgotomychannel7179 pov: most of pro players that use controllers are using zen 😲😳

    • @remuz3561
      @remuz3561 2 місяці тому

      ​@@freerobuxgotomychannel7179 pov: brain damage

  • @AARININ
    @AARININ 2 роки тому +8

    Very nice video mr nohyper. I will honestly wait for part 2 because I didn't know about some of the pro players scandals that you told about in this vid.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      thank you aarinin, part 2 will come out at some point. might make it a series

  • @vvsKap
    @vvsKap 2 роки тому +14

    editing is great in this video, i’d love to see more content like this, keep up the great work man!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому +2

      thanks qubicall

  • @TheMe9595
    @TheMe9595 2 роки тому +3

    The levelheaded approach to figuring out cheaters is really nice to see. People react so passionately and call everything they don’t understand cheating but in a lot of cases, with the proper context, things aren’t suspicious at all. There is definitely a cheating problem in a lot of these games but screaming cheater at every clip isn’t going to fix that issue.

    • @Cornell90
      @Cornell90 2 роки тому

      Thanks for the laugh monkey.

  • @athena.bismuth980
    @athena.bismuth980 2 роки тому +10

    Super interesting perspective we don't get to hear from often. Thanks for sharing your insights!

  • @zenchanted5110
    @zenchanted5110 2 роки тому +5

    very well made video man, i really like this editing style so keep it up. i would like a series about this cus this is a definetly interesting category of cs:go

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      Thanks Zenchanted, appreciate that

  • @dawnpi
    @dawnpi 2 роки тому

    this video was so soothing im ngl, im super high and ur voice is so soothing, and it feels like a horror story in the tone of ur voice. and csgo cheating is stuff ive been on and covered so i was also so interested.

  • @nzdanrah
    @nzdanrah Рік тому +3

    I'm by no means a pro, but started out my online FPS life as a 10 year old putting many hours into Quake 1 / Quake World Team Fortress on Dialup. Moved on to early beta versions of counterstrike and then many hours in 1.6 & Source including online tournaments, and also putting in many hours into Battlefield 3 & 4.
    Even then, in my 26 years of casual gaming I would have clocked in 10 - 15 hours per week = call it 15,000 hours in my life. You completely zone out, not only does aiming become instinctual (split second flick shots quicker than you even realize it's happened) but also reading the game by combining radar and multiple sound sources, a high level of game sense.
    Yet this Monesy fella for example has 16,000 just in one game, and he's only 18. That amount of hours at such a young age where the brain is going through advanced cognitive development, no wonder he's owning.

  • @1zachd
    @1zachd 2 роки тому +38

    I was very upset with the Leaf situation. I understand that some of the clips looked suspicious but a lot of MIBR fans were sending death threats to all of the members of Chaos. Which was obviously a horrible reaction especially considering there were only accusations, nothing was ever proven.

    • @Yamatsu7
      @Yamatsu7 2 роки тому +10

      Chaos team was so good that after rising up like crazy they all left csgo 1 year after. Clearly cheats.

    • @ens8361
      @ens8361 2 роки тому +23

      @@Yamatsu7 yeah but 3/5 of the team including leaf is now in tier one valorant, NA cs was dying at the time and it was common place for many players to switch over due to the uncertainty of the online era. Hella players left, Stewie, Ethan, and Jamppi. Are they cheaters? No, you’re arguement is terrible

    • @timeoutguy
      @timeoutguy 2 роки тому +8

      @@ens8361 Something that makes Chaos players more suspicious is the fact that a few minutes before the match, the odds for Chaos to win in bets dropped a lot, that is, a large amount of money was bet on them. In the game against Team One, there are also several clips that prove that they are cheaters

    • @coolissimo69
      @coolissimo69 Рік тому

      Chaos were cheating

    • @coolissimo69
      @coolissimo69 Рік тому +1

      @@timeoutguy ofc ,they were cheating. Not only with MIBR also against other Brazilian teams with more obvious locks by xeepaa and leanf especially at train map.

  • @ADHDmeds
    @ADHDmeds 2 роки тому +3

    really good video did not expect such a high quality video from you definitely make a part 2 would watch it 100%

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      Thank you narcian

    • @ZumbieRUST
      @ZumbieRUST 2 роки тому +1

      @@NoHyper [he is implying your videos arent high quality] (144p gang)

  • @no_alias_for_me
    @no_alias_for_me Рік тому +1

    The "tracking players in smokes" - thing is a quite common occurrence I have to say. It happened to me and my team. In 99% of the cases it's due to the smoke bug.

  • @alexanderibakke5659
    @alexanderibakke5659 2 роки тому +7

    The m0nesy clip doesnt come from "backtracking" its simply the ping diff from the server to the spectator or tick output diff which is usually 128-64 on official tournaments. Additionally the bullet in cs doesnt necessearily land where the crosshair is when flicking very fast, but instead where the crosshair "wouldve" ended up as the unscoping of the awp happens a few ticks earlier than the shot. this can be seen in a lot of awp clips from pros or fast casual awpers alike.
    anyway great video!

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Рік тому

      1. the unscoping doesnt happen before the shot, it happens on the same tick as the shot. the bullet then has an animation of a couple frames but this is irrelevant to when or where the shot hits. if there is any delay in the awp unscoping and when the shot actually hits this is just ping and nothing else. unless you are playing with multithreaded rendering on, which will render interpolated frames in which your input isnt processed. this setting is useless, it only adds input lag, makes your input lag more variable, and increases your pc's power consumption by rendering interpolated frames that dont do anything. no one should play with this setting on, no matter how bad your pc is.
      2. the bullet isnt fired at where the crosshair would have ended up, it in fact fires at the spot where your crosshair was at the START of the current game tick. where you move your crosshair during the tick is irrelevant. the position is only updated at the start of the next game tick. this is how source engine works.
      this is also one of the main reasons why csgo, and source engine games in general, have bad hitreg and feel delayed. other shooters such as reflex, quake, unreal, or anything based on quake or unreal engines, dont have this problem, they actually keep track of how far you move your crosshair during a tick before you press M1.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Рік тому

      yeah the whole play looked legit, some lucky shots for sure but definitely legit.

  • @NotoriousBBB
    @NotoriousBBB 8 місяців тому +1

    I do wonder how thorough the hardware checks can be. In the world of normal sports steroids and PEDs are commonly checked for but the tests are easily bypassed .

  • @hammond9866
    @hammond9866 Рік тому +14

    Nohyper: is / was flusha cheating
    Nohyper : shows not even one sus flusha clip

  • @Oscarwienberg
    @Oscarwienberg 2 роки тому +1

    Love that youre trying something new and higher quality

  • @revan22
    @revan22 2 роки тому +3

    What is actually bothering me is how cheating is even possible in a tournament. Just import your CS go settings on a competition PC on which the players can't add anything like a certain program called word.exe, they can choose the mouse etc. I don't see the problem with that. That way you can be sure no one is cheating.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому +4

      Well there are DMA cheats, basically hardware cheats that are installed into a mouse or something like that. Letting them have any control would mean letting them have an avenue to cheat.

  • @s0te
    @s0te Рік тому

    I know I'm 9 months late, but I just want to appreciate how good it is to see this perspective from a cheater, this video made me question my hate for CHAOS in 2020, I was young and very biased as a MIBR fan, and never saw how dumb Xeppaa's "wall tracking" actually was, and all the leaf's clips too.. Good work!!
    You should make a video on Brazil's most controversial player, aspas, that was banned in competitive CSGO here, and then moved to valorant, there he is the best BR player of the game to this day, but still is accused of being an ex-CSGO cheater.

  • @mnss8247
    @mnss8247 2 роки тому +3

    would like a 2nd part, also great video!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      yeah I'm probably going to make one, it just takes so long to make videos like this

  • @BobBobson-gv3ol
    @BobBobson-gv3ol Рік тому +4

    As someone with over 200 hours on csgo and a $20 dollar headset from wish I can confirm that anyone who has killed me was cheating.

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat Рік тому

      15k hours and alot of play with and against the best players ever before everyone could cheat here. I also know programmers that has worked on big cheats and all pros 100% cheat in every round for 6-7 years at least. Most of them for more than that :) And that is a fact.

    • @BobBobson-gv3ol
      @BobBobson-gv3ol Рік тому

      @@Rpgreat 15k hours and you still think everyone is a cheater. That is real sad bro. Like hall of fame sad.

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat Рік тому

      @@BobBobson-gv3ol I literally know coders of one of the most popular cheats. Not one pro is clean in any game for many years. But WP being so unintelligent and extremely bad at the game that you can't understand that people are cheating when their aim goes crazy and locks on to 10 heads through the walls every game XD

    • @BobBobson-gv3ol
      @BobBobson-gv3ol Рік тому +1

      @@Rpgreat don’t change your story legend. “All pros 100% cheat.” I don’t think it’s me who’s bad at the game. 15k hours and everyone’s locking onto heads. Man what were you doing for 15k hours playing casual hostage or something 😂😂

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat Рік тому

      @@BobBobson-gv3ol Changed NOTHING in my story and you are an idiot. It's like I'm telling you wrestling is rigged and you trying to say I'm bad at wrestling XD WTF

  • @YoSnows
    @YoSnows 2 роки тому +5

    Great Video NoHyper Keep Up the work king!

  • @PWNHUB
    @PWNHUB Рік тому

    The thing is it wasn't long ago that like FaZe and Optic etc would have videos playing in modded lobbies etc for content.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  Рік тому

      Doesn’t mean that it would go into the professional play. Plus I feel like modded lobbies are one of those types of cheating that’s acceptable. Similar to people that make videos on 2B2T, the anarchy Minecraft server.

  • @Megu02
    @Megu02 2 роки тому +6

    This video is very well made! Very enjoyable to watch!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому +1

      thank you Megu

  • @anu1776
    @anu1776 2 роки тому +12

    monesy is honestly just to good, we've all been there, when you're in flowstate mode and absolutely wrecking people, i think that thats what happened in that clip, i also think he flicks so insanely fast, you dont always see it as a spectator

    • @christianb7125
      @christianb7125 Рік тому

      Yeah that guy is legit I’ve been watching him for a while and he is just naturally nasty

    • @WindowsMaker02
      @WindowsMaker02 3 місяці тому

      Right now in CS2 I think he's in his prime.

  • @billyb9358
    @billyb9358 7 місяців тому

    Watching this 1 year late but refreshing to see an objective take from different angles on this stuff by a cheater who actually knows how the game works / is played. I quit CS forever ago but clearly remember the stuff you talked about in the video. COD is currently absolutely infested by youtubers trying to make money off overdosing people with confirmation bias and clickbaiting bad players / actual cheaters with big egos (lol) into believing everyone in the game is cheating, which likely just makes the number of cheaters grow. COD specifically WZ could use someone like you as a contrast to all the "hacker hunters" who spew misinformation and have no clue how the game even works but idk at this point we're probably too deep in the hole.

  • @cuylshepherdton7437
    @cuylshepherdton7437 2 роки тому +29

    Flusha was undoubtedly cheating for a period of time. Obviously he stopped after everyone kept calling him out.

    • @DaddyDagoth
      @DaddyDagoth Рік тому +5

      100%. Most players from 2013-2016 were cheating and blatently so.

    • @MrFlejon
      @MrFlejon Рік тому +7

      It's funny how back then, people laughed at you when you said he was cheating. "They're just that good". There are so many example of people using aimlock as wallhacks, because obviously you couldn't wallhack on lan because there was always someone looking at your screen.
      A lot of the insane flusha clips, you can definitely see a pattern: his crosshair first moves towards the enemy, he goes back to where he was looking, and then magically he kills someone through a smoke or a wall. I believe it is because he toggled for a split second to make sure an enemy is near, then toggles again to get a quick kill. Sometimes unfortunately for him, even though he toggled real quick, his opponent was close enough to magically and coincidently for his crosshair to be right on him through the wall.
      When you check for an angle, especially if you know someone is coming, you don't randomly move your crosshair in his direction, through a wall.
      It was blatant cheating.
      Shox did the same thing.
      They had the best "game sense" yet the are irrelevant now, when people like simple or Niko are still here and kicking ass, and we've never saw them do sketchy shit like this.
      Almost like all the sus players where actually cheating and had to stop because they got constantly accused

    • @CJBeamedYou
      @CJBeamedYou Рік тому +2

      suprised how most youtube videos never use the blatent clips flusha has. Some of his cache clips are insane and make 0 sense

    • @MrFlejon
      @MrFlejon Рік тому +1

      @@CJBeamedYou there's a video called proverwatch #2 that goes over one of the cache clips. It's in my eyes an undeniable evidence he was cheating. It's made by a German hacker and it's really well made

    • @ericcotter1984
      @ericcotter1984 Рік тому

      @@DaddyDagoth evidence?

  • @unboxingabayonet4154
    @unboxingabayonet4154 2 роки тому

    Actually really interesting! Been here since 1k, man! Content still good as ever!

  • @Skillertvv_
    @Skillertvv_ 2 роки тому +3

    For the monesy clip you we're suspicious about: if you flick hard enough with the AWP it looks like you shot where the enemy is not anymore at, where in reality, you did shoot at the target.

    • @Skillertvv_
      @Skillertvv_ 2 роки тому

      Awesome video tho. don't take this as hate :)

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      The frame after the shot wasn’t on his either. Obviously there are a ton of different factors, online I think it the easiest to debunk the clip.

  • @steveclouston7515
    @steveclouston7515 2 роки тому +2

    The fact that Forsaken was caught cheating, and some other pro's aim acts in the exact same unhuman manner, surely gives concrete grounds for accusations? The aimlocking, bugged aiming behind walls, etc... Flusha, Shox, Byali, basically the entire Fnatic team at one point. Notice how certain teams also used to aim normally, and suddenly individual "key" players magically start following the same odd aimlocking patterns? It's so obvious.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      I dont think I’ve even seen a clip that was as lockey as forsakens was

  • @Photek24
    @Photek24 Рік тому +6

    theres only one pro ive ever suspected and it was flusha. his clip on cache where he just randomly flicks through the wall onto a player from the ct entrance of tree room through b main is something i cant explain. im sad you didnt go over that and similar clips from flusha during that one event.

  • @SomeRandomBeeGuy
    @SomeRandomBeeGuy Рік тому

    Make more "A Cheaters Perspective" this is very good to listen because of your voice!

  • @coco-pj2he
    @coco-pj2he 2 роки тому +5

    very nice video, love the work and the change in content, keep it up and we'd love to see more videos like this!

  • @ggpl8117
    @ggpl8117 Рік тому +1

    Flusha was confirmed to be a cheater half a decade ago by multiple cheat devs and simply the fact he has the most clearly cheating clips

  • @souls4781
    @souls4781 2 роки тому +4

    Very good video my man! I watched through it all😊 I can’t wait to see how much the future will bring to this channel :D subscribed :)

  • @memes3591
    @memes3591 2 роки тому +2

    I’m absolutely loving this style of video form you please do more

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      ty man, I probably will do more

  • @YehNahYehAyy
    @YehNahYehAyy Рік тому +6

    As a former LoL cheat platform/script developer I also find it so easy to recognize cheats in league of legends, I have never really got into CSGO or it's pro scene but I do enjoy the perspective you give.

    • @cambuurleeuwarden
      @cambuurleeuwarden Рік тому

      Former? What made you stop? Also what kind of income did that generate?

    • @YehNahYehAyy
      @YehNahYehAyy Рік тому +3

      ​@@cambuurleeuwarden I stopped because I lost interest when riot was really clamping down with their anti-cheat (They seem to not care again and scripting is growing once again) I don't remember exactly how much I would make but it was around 1.5 to 2k a week on average a few seasons back.

    • @cambuurleeuwarden
      @cambuurleeuwarden Рік тому +3

      @@YehNahYehAyy Thanks for replying mate. But I've got to say, with that kinda money i'd be pulling scripts out of my ass left and right if I knew how to do it.

    • @trashaccount5106
      @trashaccount5106 Рік тому

      ​@@cambuurleeuwardenI assume you'd have to register a business to legally make all this money, but then it'd be illegal because your business is profiting off of someone else's product and actively losing them players.

  • @prasannagunit
    @prasannagunit 2 роки тому

    Great video! the music, narration, research are spot on. Subbed!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      Thank you :)

    • @Han-D4ror2
      @Han-D4ror2 Рік тому +1

      hes a fucking hacker in csgo unsub. 🙂

  • @cuylshepherdton7437
    @cuylshepherdton7437 2 роки тому +3

    S1mple was banned for cheating by ESL in 2013. So consider that shit.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      I didn’t even talk about s1mple in the video

  • @coooolibri
    @coooolibri 2 роки тому

    okay, im trying to make it short, and hopefully people dont misunderstand.
    im a very dedicated player in cs since around 2004. started with pub and
    clan wars in 1.6, but in csgo i never went the team route. tried to make friends
    along the way, who understand the emphasis of my calling style. in general
    you can say that many highlights you see in the tournaments, ofc not on this lvl,
    but every player who plays for a decade or a little less had these kinda shots before.
    the classic "hiko, are you kidding me" 180 is something ive done probably 3-4 times
    in my whole cs life. now im at around 8600 hours, and when i watch old fragmovies
    from 1.6 now i can understand the full aspect of what these guys did back then.
    im really happy we have people like monesy, im always crossing my fingers watching
    his games. it gives a new hope, and fresh wind into the scene, despite the stale
    mappool we have for a long time now. rotating the maps is something i wish for
    for years.
    the thing is this is all built on trust, and we have to keep it. we have to hope for the
    competitive spirit these players have, cause there are ways to cheat in 2022 from
    home, where you cant even detect it. so its really almost all up to the players themselves.

  • @ax3
    @ax3 2 роки тому +9

    so proud of you brother

  • @HerzogMiku
    @HerzogMiku 2 роки тому +1

    At the Akuma vs 1Win Match the first clip is easily explainable since the bomb sends out waves on the radar when dropped and seen by a CT. As soon as someone picks up the Bomb the waves disappear leading him in knowing when they pick up the bomb and the position of one person.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому +1

      Yes but it doesn't show those waves for that long.

    • @HerzogMiku
      @HerzogMiku 2 роки тому

      @@NoHyper It does. You can see the bomb on the radar for 8 seconds and he killed the bomb carrier at 1:08 and looks at the radar last time at 1:01 so he could still see the waves clearly :)

  • @tr1ckster726
    @tr1ckster726 Рік тому

    That was dope as hell, I watched the whole thing start to finish. Nice work.

  • @ShaunaJagan
    @ShaunaJagan 2 роки тому +3

    A part 2 of Chaos' cheating stuff would be more than welcome
    There's a clip where someone from Chaos tries to wallbang a mibr player throught that "wooden thing" on B site, but the angle he tried isn't "wallbangable"

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      B site on which map? Plus in a high intensity situation, are brains can just do things we normally wouldn’t. I’d have to see the clip to give my opinion

    • @ShaunaJagan
      @ShaunaJagan 2 роки тому

      @@NoHyper On Overpass. The only place I could find the clip is in this Brazilian Edit inspired by SuperstituM ua-cam.com/video/TVI3DMWx5Zo/v-deo.html (already with timestemp in the link) Also, there's a guy trying to replicate the wallbang after, he's a Brazilian Caster who find it sus while casting and went in game to checks it

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      @@ShaunaJagan It is weird but you also have to consider that he was just trying to shoot someone into the cubby and the guy in front of his crosshair and just there by chance.

    • @ShaunaJagan
      @ShaunaJagan 2 роки тому

      @@NoHyper ye that what I thought, well.. These guy are in Valorant now, right? For me its proves that they didn't cheat, but a video of the topic (or a part 2 of this one) would be welcome for sure :DD

    • @bruno7912
      @bruno7912 2 роки тому

      @@ShaunaJagan Go to 02:00 of the video you send and tell me again this guys ain't cheating lol

  • @wagwan6935
    @wagwan6935 Рік тому +1

    I have a lot of hours in fps, and everyone does things that look like they are cheating occasionally at a high level. It’s consistency or blatant signs that really prove it.

  • @TiredCJ
    @TiredCJ 2 роки тому +3

    This is interesting to watch, i know your a cheater but damn this is one hell of a Documentary style type of video. would like to see more and see your opinions on pros.
    (Story for short) i dont wanna be a guy that hates cheaters when i used to become a cheater once, only to be curious about tho since i did become one of the best OFW and CFW modding in the PS3 modding community, all i ever did is to enjoy the fun stuff and play games seriously then mod for experience or just being nosey if that makes sense, ever since i switched from console to PC was a new learning path for me, tho back then when i used to dislike modding alot more than it should've been. i find out about CSGO cheats and HvH's n stuff like that, tho i wasn't that interested but i also could learn a thing too, so i did what i did and cheat on it, honestly changed my mind a little bit more. tho its boring to cheat nowadays and cheating / modding. i kinda wanna bring entertainment at its finest. I'll always be a cheater but i generally dont wanna touch them anymore and become a pro player or just an entertainer for streaming or videos itself.
    also again, this video do change my views on other ppl but i quite enjoy this style Documentary.

  • @Melv1ns
    @Melv1ns 2 роки тому +2

    If you begin to play CS when you are like 7 and put the work in. It's a very big chance you're gonna be a top tier player when you're 16. In almost all of sports the best players often began before they were under 5.

  • @alreadydeadxx2120
    @alreadydeadxx2120 Рік тому +3

    Sadly I don’t believe there is a way to test true skill in gaming anymore. Unless there was a LAN league that pre bought hardware for all contestants before hand, but that will never happen.

  • @m9wn_
    @m9wn_ 2 роки тому

    Yet another great video! I'm sure G-Dawg thinks otherwise, hes the one that reacted "do" on that stream message

  • @Deadmeatsz
    @Deadmeatsz 2 роки тому +6

    I believe the corruption runs very deep and that the whole cs go pro scene is a joke. i have seen both flusha and m0nesy track and flick to moving targets behind smoke/walls in unortodox/unpredictable positions and still hit more than a few times now for example. Also infolocks through walls seems to be very common amongst many pros.

  • @THEMONSTEREXE
    @THEMONSTEREXE Рік тому

    This is interesting, as for your flusha review. I too do not think he's cheating. I remember seeing a clip from an interview where he stated something along the lines of "... I've been playing this game for so long you kind of just know, what your opponents are going to do." Now, I'm no professional, but playing since CS as a kid till now. I find I also shoot randomly, stare at walls waiting for any info. crazy

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat Рік тому

      He is literally doing things that only cheaters do, because of the cheat they are using. Are you saying you believe he uses cheats but is not cheating? XDDDDD

  • @philipp594
    @philipp594 2 роки тому +3

    There has been a ton of cheating on a pro level. BYOC has always been problematic (there was even a hardware cheat soldered to a ddr2 memory module in the CS Source days). Then when they went to provided pcs we had the workshop cheats, the rubber ducky USB exploits (in mice and keyboards). Tons of amphetamine (adderall) use. Now we have coaching bug / other exploits and match fixing.
    The community is just toxic and it goes all the way to the top. We should have a zero tolerance policy for cheating but instead you find f**king cheaters in ever 3rd-5th match.

  • @septicai9809
    @septicai9809 2 роки тому +1

    amazing video, keep doing these on csgo or other games, very good break downs and research.

  • @rr3zus
    @rr3zus Рік тому +10

    chaos were 100% cheating

  • @bol9332
    @bol9332 2 роки тому

    This is like one of my favorite videos on youtube. Great job!

  • @scorchone2310
    @scorchone2310 Рік тому

    Love your editing and production on this video it’s so smooth and easy to watch, super well done

  • @noelyap7141
    @noelyap7141 2 роки тому +1

    i don’t know about the checking radar thing since i look at the radar way too often too, no matter what i’m clearing. but it does look kinda sus

  • @pitchatan
    @pitchatan Рік тому +1

    The emilio controversy runs deep though.
    Around 2004-2005ish he was more or less caught out cheating at TWO small lan events, specifically asking for spots where he could sit with his back against the wall where officials couldn't spectate him freely.. In both cases he was doing extremely sketchy stuff and in both cases he was moved over to another spot where he could be spectated freely by officials... and in both cases he went from top fragging and single headedly carrying his team to plummeting in frags and being about as effective as a wet blanket.
    Other than that he has a loooong history of gaslighting, lying and just generally being a prick to people.
    And i know all of this because he was adamantly trying to get the team i was running at the time to sponsor him and his cronies (and i say cronies as at least 2 of the people he played with have been caught cheating since then)... mind you, this was around 2007-2008...with that in mind, people DO NOT change that easily...
    My response was that i basically told him to f*** off after doing a bit of research and finding all of this out and went ahead and sponsored another team (which he then proceeded to attack me personally for saying no to them, mind you i never elaborated on why i said no).
    It runs even deeper though as flusha has been playing with emilio for yeaaars even back in 1.6 and both of them has had contact with several cheat developers located in sweden (one of which moved on to work on EAC among other things)... is this proof of flusha cheating?.. no.
    But it's just a weird coincidence that his performance peaked during a time where custom maps injected with "simple" aimbots and RPC vectors (which took 5+ years for valve to finally rectify), as well as hardware dongle based mouse/keyboard modifications injecting a powershell payload were running rampant.
    Events have gotten better at stopping this since then, which is why it's FAIRLY safe to say that no one is cheating today unless it being played online... and explains how certain players have dropped off the face of the earth in terms of their in game performance.

  • @bakatraitless
    @bakatraitless Рік тому

    W content. Refreshing to see an in-depth perspective like this.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  Рік тому

      thank you baka, I appreciate that

  • @sm0oth552
    @sm0oth552 2 роки тому +1

    watched the whole thing, great job man!

  • @WiffHvH
    @WiffHvH 2 роки тому

    Looks like you found the perfect style of content, no skeet invite needed.

  • @spamacc21
    @spamacc21 2 роки тому

    oahh man cmon i wanted to quit CSGO cheating tehn I saw this video and my pation and flames for the CSGO HvH community got lit up again like no one gives a damn but i started in 2017 and then started to code my own cheats in 2018-2019 but in like late 2021 I lost all my motivation or something and after this video which has like no context to what I was doing it just brung my motivation back thanks my guy never stop making videos

  • @bluefish808
    @bluefish808 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, would love to see more in this style.

  • @xavierromeo7781
    @xavierromeo7781 2 роки тому

    I heard that, after a long period of time, VAC bans are hidden from the public profile, but are still active, and prevent to play on VAC-secured servers.

  • @bAs7ar0
    @bAs7ar0 2 роки тому +1

    Keep it up man! I would like to see more video like this!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      More will come

  • @LagartoChicloso
    @LagartoChicloso Рік тому +1

    Spectator mode makes everyone look like they are using backtracking tbh

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  Рік тому

      If it’s a live demo I don’t think it would. It’s being played back at 128 tick.

    • @LagartoChicloso
      @LagartoChicloso Рік тому +1

      @@NoHyper i dont know becouse i downloaded my demos from gamers club (faceit for south America) and i looked at a 4 kills all headshot flicks that i did and literally every shot was me shooting at the air killing someone that i am not looking and then the camera moves to the guy.
      And gamers club is 128 ticks and works really well

  • @9RepeatingMonkeys
    @9RepeatingMonkeys Рік тому

    The monesy clip can happen for so many reasons, tick rate, refresh rate, bad demo, etc it’s so unlikely to be the backtrack

  • @siqsteen
    @siqsteen Рік тому +1

    nobody ever cheats, tens of thousands of hours can give you the ability to lock on through walls.

  • @kipchickensout
    @kipchickensout Рік тому +2

    i don't think the backtrack looking thing has much to do with the ping, but more with the crosshair being so out of sync with what the actual player sees. I've seen hundreds of shots that weren't on the enemy in demos because they were just flicked
    edit: the only time i really think of backtrack sometimes is when i go behind a wall and die by getting teleported outside again, which happens quite frequently, that's an example of the ping

  • @Mr.TsarBomba
    @Mr.TsarBomba Рік тому

    I love these videos! I would love it if you could make more of these commentary videos! Literally the best UA-cam videos that I know of. Maybe you could make a CSGO cheats evolution like Golden did, however since you're a cheater yourself I think it would make it 200% more interesting ♥️

  • @mtgfanmtg9739
    @mtgfanmtg9739 10 місяців тому +1

    “Everybody is on steroids” - Nate Diaz

  • @dabest7405
    @dabest7405 Рік тому

    One of the most enjoyable videos I've watched in a long while, good work

  • @jrvilla1321
    @jrvilla1321 Рік тому

    I love the background music, sounds like background music of a 1975 murder mystery film, and two detectives are in a dark alleyway with steam coming out of the ground and its pouring rain..."I never knew this job would take me to the darkest of places" - "If its not us then who johnny!? that girl needs us"...*flicks cigarette and walks away*

  • @v9idistic
    @v9idistic Рік тому +2

    I personally despise cheaters but this video is very well made

  • @michaelfreemanbaseball7672
    @michaelfreemanbaseball7672 2 роки тому +1

    In Monesy’s case the awp can kill even if the crosshairs is off particularly when at close range and scoped in, and as you stated it’s only been the one play that was questionable.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      It’ll only do that when you’re in motion, he wasn’t.

    • @CKr14
      @CKr14 2 роки тому

      Pretty sure it was just slight lag on the Spectator side

  • @stonedmountainunicorn9532
    @stonedmountainunicorn9532 Рік тому

    The look on Marzil's face when forsaken gets caught

  • @zackthex1
    @zackthex1 2 роки тому

    2022’s biggest banger finally out

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  2 роки тому

      thanks for the help zack :)

  • @ChaosCSGO
    @ChaosCSGO 2 роки тому

    Love this type of video and that intro was really sweet 💯

  • @Trainors22
    @Trainors22 Рік тому +1

    the clips of the Akuma guys looking at the radar is inaccurate. There's a pretty obvious delay from the ingame character to their web cam. u can tell on the last clip when he dies, it takes another second for him to react. To me, it seems like enough of a delay to make it seem like ur swinging while looking at the radar.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  Рік тому

      The delay isn’t that much but assuming you’re correct, why look at your radar in the first place?

  • @twilightenvoy
    @twilightenvoy 8 місяців тому

    “My opinion on them, as a CSGO cheater”
    I was like “wait what” 😂

  • @rexyCS
    @rexyCS Рік тому +1

    I hit alot of shots with awp in a place where enemy "was" I think csgo has some built in backtrack

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  Рік тому

      Most likely just ping then

    • @rexyCS
      @rexyCS Рік тому

      @@NoHyper my ping is low now however when I was playing at 100+ ping it was happening much more often

  • @wolf-xf6hf
    @wolf-xf6hf Рік тому

    First video of yours I’ve seen and it was fantastic I loved every second of it