No they are also for hollow walls, they are simply not used correctly, apart from using too aggressive screws in the first place, the first one works as intended, second one doesn't because the wood is too thick, that's why you can buy a longer version of the plugs, third one doesn't work either because now the wood is simply too thin. People should just read the datasheets provided by the manufacturer
I've recently discovered these and use them instead of red Rawlplugs, and have to say they are brilliant in concrete and masonry so wtf are they being used in wood for!
This screws are made for wood, the extreme of that screw is like a drill, it cuts and destroys the nylon from inside. Yo should have to use this kind of thread: www.amazon.es/tornillo-inoxidable-tornillos-autorroscantes-redondo/dp/B07F8R8JVJ
Almost like this dude is spreading fake news. I love these things for my masonry gigs. This dudes channel is like the shitty 5-minute crafts of woodworking.
@@thomasdevereux3426too aggressive of a screw. They are those 'Thread All' screws that advertise they can be used in wood, masonry, etc. They're chewing the inside of that anchor up. They work great if used correctly!
@@2288sharinganIn a pinch, they work great in wood! I've used them in a couple applications, mainly hinges in door casings. They're phenomenal for that.
Although they are also made for hollow walls, they are simply not used correctly in this video. Apart from using too aggressive screws in the first place, the first one works as intended, second one doesn't because the wood is too thick, that's why you can buy a longer version of the plugs, third one doesn't work either because now the wood is simply too thin. Just read the datasheets provided by the manufacturer and you have a rock solid solution
@Tool_Tips You should: a. learn how to write and spell b. learn which screws to use in what situation c. when you're done with a and b, then learn how to use these plugs and for which situations are they meant to be. Btw, these are Fischer Duo-Power plugs. Along with other plugs you can see how they work in plaster here: ua-cam.com/video/A75-Ks8iXJI/v-deo.html
Admittedly the quality of these plugs doesn't seem to be what they were. I've got some left from a pack I had years ago and they are way stronger than the exact same ones I bought recently. But also who uses plugs into wood? Just use the appropriate wood screw.
I have a few questions: 1. Why are you using screws that are obviously not designed for plugs? 2. why are you using wall plugs for wood instead of just screwing into it? PS The wall Plug is obviously FAR to big for your thin piece of wood (talking about the third one.
I use these in masonry all the time, here in Europe our houses are built using bricks, they work brilliantly. Your video is tantamount to critical theory, and as such uninformative and ignorant.
@@AlexKall Yes, Europe is pretty big, but in the main we build brick houses more so than the Americans. But for specific purposes, I'm in southern Spain where we build the main structures using reinforced concrete and the rest pretty much breeze blocks.
Well if you know how to use them right that won't happen still work perfect every time no matter how cheap it is you are only supposed to make the hole that you're putting the Anchor in and 1/8 smaller then the actual anchor you're going to pretty much have to get a hammer to hit it into the wall then you put your screw in slowly
Pathetic misleading video. What is shown is work as intended. They work fine in concrete AND wood. The deformation you see (more visible in screw #1) is what gives it a better grip when you pull the screw. Very interestingly, you don't show that part, as it would be damn hard! After you pull the screw (with more force needed than other anchors), they are obviously unusable.
First of all you really need to differentiate between plugs that are mounted directly to the wall vs the ones that are designed to be used through the material you are fastening. These Fischer ones altough they have a flange, that flange is not meant to be used in a through-hole fashion. The flangenis merely there so that the plug doesn't slip further into the hole as you start tightening the screw
@@christiano8088 The dame company makes many different types that have the same design. I used some for concrete block that where the same colors and they worked crazy good. Said concrete only on them but who knows which the ones in the video are for.
I use them literaly on everything. Ypu are just a novise and using it WRONG!!! If you read fhe instruction it clearly states that wall thikness should be at least 12.5mm thick. That wood on the last plast is only about 5-7mm thats why it start spinning.
Congratulations, you used them in probably the only material (wood) where they aren't needed and aren't designed for. Also, check the instructions regarding material thickness...
I had to remove these plugs last week as I left my place. I can tell you, it's nearly impossible. I had to dril each of them out while plugs from other brands were easy to remove 😅
I don't have great experience with using self drilling screws on wall plugs, normal screws would give a stronger grip between plastic and screw threads
Нормальные дюбеля, давно перешёл на них. В пенобетоне держит лучше специального (при малых размерах). Если в бетон ставить, то до усрачки можно закручивать, не провернëт.
Umm, those are meant for holes in concrete. Try reading the instructions before you make ”informative” videos.
I thought the same but these actually seem to be their universal plugs.
1. you don't use Rawl type plugs in wood.
2. They seemed to work, it support the top piece of wood and looked to hold quite well.
No they are also for hollow walls, they are simply not used correctly, apart from using too aggressive screws in the first place, the first one works as intended, second one doesn't because the wood is too thick, that's why you can buy a longer version of the plugs, third one doesn't work either because now the wood is simply too thin. People should just read the datasheets provided by the manufacturer
Right! i was watching it like are u stupid? Wtf🤣
Its their duopower, works for tile, plaster, concrete, wood
I've recently discovered these and use them instead of red Rawlplugs, and have to say they are brilliant in concrete and masonry so wtf are they being used in wood for!
How about showing these fixings being used in the correct materials & conditions there designed for, that would help us more.
This screws are made for wood, the extreme of that screw is like a drill, it cuts and destroys the nylon from inside. Yo should have to use this kind of thread:
www.amazon.es/tornillo-inoxidable-tornillos-autorroscantes-redondo/dp/B07F8R8JVJ
These actually work really really well in concrete or brick applications.
Almost like this dude is spreading fake news. I love these things for my masonry gigs. This dudes channel is like the shitty 5-minute crafts of woodworking.
Which is what they are made for. Shouldn't need plugs for wood
Maybe just 2 big a screw
@@thomasdevereux3426too aggressive of a screw. They are those 'Thread All' screws that advertise they can be used in wood, masonry, etc. They're chewing the inside of that anchor up. They work great if used correctly!
@@2288sharinganIn a pinch, they work great in wood! I've used them in a couple applications, mainly hinges in door casings. They're phenomenal for that.
You better delete this video. This is called misleading content...
Not if these anchors are advertized for hollow walls, which I believe they are.
Probably some of the best plugs you can find nowadays... wtf vidéo ???
This guys logic is to buy a pet shark put him in the backyard and be shocked it died
Although they are also made for hollow walls, they are simply not used correctly in this video. Apart from using too aggressive screws in the first place, the first one works as intended, second one doesn't because the wood is too thick, that's why you can buy a longer version of the plugs, third one doesn't work either because now the wood is simply too thin. Just read the datasheets provided by the manufacturer and you have a rock solid solution
@Tool_Tips
You should:
a. learn how to write and spell
b. learn which screws to use in what situation
c. when you're done with a and b, then learn how to use these plugs and for which situations are they meant to be.
Btw, these are Fischer Duo-Power plugs. Along with other plugs you can see how they work in plaster here: ua-cam.com/video/A75-Ks8iXJI/v-deo.html
Been using this brand for past few years .. always worked brilliantly
They’re brilliant in plasterboard.
"I used this product incorrectly and it failed! Junk."
First two did EXACTLY what they should. Very good thing.
Honestly how has this account got so many followers 😂😂😂😂 THESE EXACT RAW PLUGS ARE AMAZING ! THIS VIDEO IS SO WRONG
Admittedly the quality of these plugs doesn't seem to be what they were. I've got some left from a pack I had years ago and they are way stronger than the exact same ones I bought recently. But also who uses plugs into wood? Just use the appropriate wood screw.
As someone who works for Fischer this is the way they are supposed to work in hollow substrates. I have gotten loads up to 1 kn
You mean 100kg by pulling straight on them? If yes, that‘s amazing.
@@fabianmayer yes conducting a pull out test on the duopower can get to the 100 kgs mark
How does this video have so many likes? 😳
Peoples is dumb.
The third is mounted in to thin plywood. First two does the job like they should.
I have a few questions: 1. Why are you using screws that are obviously not designed for plugs? 2. why are you using wall plugs for wood instead of just screwing into it?
PS The wall Plug is obviously FAR to big for your thin piece of wood (talking about the third one.
The plug did what’s it’s meant to in hollow Materials like dry wall
Fischer DUO power plugs are the best plugs I have ever used and I would 100% RECOMMEND everyone to use them.
I use these in masonry all the time, here in Europe our houses are built using bricks, they work brilliantly. Your video is tantamount to critical theory, and as such uninformative and ignorant.
"Here in Europe" should probably be a bit more specific as Europe is a large continent 😉
@@AlexKall Yes, Europe is pretty big, but in the main we build brick houses more so than the Americans. But for specific purposes, I'm in southern Spain where we build the main structures using reinforced concrete and the rest pretty much breeze blocks.
Yeah, no shit the anchor is going to deform when nothing is providing force upon it..
Aren't self tapping screws a little rough for plugs in general
I've been using these for a while now. Not had any issues with them
Think these are the best rawlplugs out there
These are the best plugs for concrete walls, but obviously if you use them incorrect.
These plugs work. Your view and comment fishing video also worked.
These meant screw driver don’t use drill because this for only slow and take easy so it will go fine
These plugs are very good, I used a lot in a hollow brick wall. You just showing incompetence, using wrong product for wrong application
Maybe learn to read and use them correctly. They're meant for concrete or bricks, or eventually a big piece of wood, not small planks
No apparently they're also ment for hollow walls.
Everyone getting triggered lol Uploaded this for the views and comments. 🤣🤣
Well if you know how to use them right that won't happen still work perfect every time no matter how cheap it is you are only supposed to make the hole that you're putting the Anchor in and 1/8 smaller then the actual anchor you're going to pretty much have to get a hammer to hit it into the wall then you put your screw in slowly
Pathetic misleading video. What is shown is work as intended. They work fine in concrete AND wood. The deformation you see (more visible in screw #1) is what gives it a better grip when you pull the screw. Very interestingly, you don't show that part, as it would be damn hard! After you pull the screw (with more force needed than other anchors), they are obviously unusable.
Oh yes another video of somebody using something improperly and claiming it doesn't work
If other all have said good but you so something wrong with this video. pls provide the facts video if Fisher is not good...
Not even worth a validating comment. Author please do your homework.
Thanks.
Not how they meant to be used at all. The fact that you think this is how to use a wall plug and your giving out tool tips is a joke.
First of all you really need to differentiate between plugs that are mounted directly to the wall vs the ones that are designed to be used through the material you are fastening. These Fischer ones altough they have a flange, that flange is not meant to be used in a through-hole fashion. The flangenis merely there so that the plug doesn't slip further into the hole as you start tightening the screw
I’ve used these plugs for a couple of years now. Always a solid fixing. Ignore this video
Screws could be shorter. Not meant for extreme secure affixing. Would work fine for light duty stuff like picture or tiny shelf hanging.
They are designed for heavy duty plasterboard hanging use. And they are excellent for this purpose.
@@christiano8088 The dame company makes many different types that have the same design. I used some for concrete block that where the same colors and they worked crazy good. Said concrete only on them but who knows which the ones in the video are for.
Want hand tight and not screws that strip the plastic. Using wrong screws and over tightening them.
Not meant for hollow installiaon. Requires a sleeve formed by drilling solid material.
These plugs do exactly what they are supposed to do. You just use them incorrectly
I use them literaly on everything. Ypu are just a novise and using it WRONG!!! If you read fhe instruction it clearly states that wall thikness should be at least 12.5mm thick. That wood on the last plast is only about 5-7mm thats why it start spinning.
You haven't got anything between the screw and plug, so there's nothing stopping the screw from pulling itself into the plug.
They are also meant to be used in plasterboard hollow walls and dot and dab. Bought a pack....utterly useless!!
Absolute shite I've been using these for 3 years no problem.
These plugs work with mortar too, don't diss them
В дерево, пробки? Как так то?
You shouldn't be using those type of screws. They're too rough.
RTFM, these are CONCRETE anchors.
Ok, do not buy this, do not buy this tip and info
No wonder when you don't even know how to use it😂
You’re using them incorrectly.
Plugs are meant to be in holes 😮
the best plastic style plugs you can buy
Uhh…this is a concrete sleeve anchor.
You are using these incorrectly...they are. supposed to be used in a solid matrix. Did no one ever teach you how to use wall plugs?
Your not using them tidy.
Congratulations, you used them in probably the only material (wood) where they aren't needed and aren't designed for. Also, check the instructions regarding material thickness...
use correct screws... not those
This is misleading as it's Wrong bloody screws they look like cutting ones not regular woodscrews
Fucking vrius county!
Perfect in hollow mansory or when you reach occasionally some voids in Concrete. Perfect for fastening into hollow concrete slabs.
Fischer plugs are no1 in the world, except a china copy cat add creator finds a not recommended usage. In this cases they suck
I had to remove these plugs last week as I left my place. I can tell you, it's nearly impossible. I had to dril each of them out while plugs from other brands were easy to remove 😅
do we really need a plug for wood? [report]
Can't believe all the likes on this video! They are pretty good in my experience!
They are good,just unhandy fools can not work with them
Well you failed
You used the wrong screw. The screw started to eat away at the plug which failed.
Put this in wood??
Been using these for a few years and they are hands down the best plugs I have used.
You are not meant to use then screws bc they remove to much material from the plug
Do dot buy why?
Best plug available…
Creator of this video is in the picture.
Thick as 2 short planks.
Thank s
Nope, they are actually great plugs. Wouldn’t buy anything else.
I don't have great experience with using self drilling screws on wall plugs, normal screws would give a stronger grip between plastic and screw threads
Bro, you use wrong screw !!!
Read the instructions and use them for what they are designed for Einstein
Ive never seen these anchors come with that kind of screw.
Don't worry, I will "dot" buy them.
These are the left handed screwdriver ones
These are meant to be used in concrete 🤣🤦
Мда, как говорится, кг/ам
Wie kann man so sehr keine Ahnung haben. Die sind super!
Screws go into wood just fine
BRING BACK SHERIFF LOBO!
Try using bigger plugs before showing video that literally teaches you nothing
Do dot buy this!
“DO DOT”???? 🤔🤔
That is not how their are supposed to be used
Нормальные дюбеля, давно перешёл на них. В пенобетоне держит лучше специального (при малых размерах). Если в бетон ставить, то до усрачки можно закручивать, не провернëт.
You're lucky you haven't been sued for this video, this is defamation.
Because you are using it wrong
It's for concrete man...i bet u flip pancakes for a living
They are for concrete lol