I love when the devs get out and fly instead of just pontificating on the bench. I really appreciate your efforts Pawel. Thanks for sharing your adventures. Happy flying amigo. 🍻
Thank you for this video. I hope you post a detailed iNav setup procedure on the Manta as Ardupilot is not much fun to use and learn. It is so general with so many parameters and idiosyncrasies that I find it almost Impossible to use.
The transition is carried out without problem, if you respect the following conditions : if there is wind you must face the wind, you must have a minimum altitude (20 m is good) and above all have a certain speed , otherwise you run the risk of dropping out. For flight modes, Ardupilot is at least as rich as INAV, you just have to look at the documentation a little. On the other hand, fortunately there are videos on the internet about the Manta, the manual is very succinct!
Looking forward to Inav 7.1 on the Manta, have tried to understand Missionplanner for the Fimi Manta, but it is quite overwelming when you are more familiair with Inav. Are you able to share the setings for the Manta running om 7.1?
Do you have the iNav diff for this FC yet? I know Shota has one (obviously) and he helped setup Giz - but I haven't done VTOL still on iNav and have a Manta handy so really want to try it out.
Almost all of the US Maine's V22 Ospreys that crash due to pilot error are in the transition mode. I suspect they transition with too little air speed which I think should be prevented in the FBW software of the craft. Maybe when I'm finally satisfied with my Optical Flow performance I might look into the VTOL setup. That last flight was magical.
With inav for a smooth transition you need a 2 step transition. 1 is Drone. 2 is Drone with 25percent props foward. 3 is Drone with 50percent props foward and stabilized yaw off and 4 is plane mode Drone off
Very interested to see this running inav. I have been trying for several months on and off. The rear motor cuts before the front servos have transitioned to forward flight which causes a flip. Terrible ossilation in transition mode also. The only way i have managed to get this working in some fashion with inav is to take off vertical, get moving forward, kill throttle, full transition to forward flight and then Increase throttle again. Im sure there are ways to do this is programming but beyond my skills. Look forward to the futire developments. Keep up the good work 👍
Ardupilot does the transition differently depending on Q_mode and regular mode you are switching to. For exampe if you are switching to manual or Q_ACRO the transition is immediately completed. Ardupilot has lovkouts for taking off and automatically landing in plane modes that you can enable. This is why you couldn't arm in plane modes.
Hello FPV University, Is it possible to setup a VTOL like Tom Stanton in Inav? If you have not seen the video: In Vertical mode it should act like a normal Bicopter, but in forward flight its Yaw-axis should be controlled by differential thrust, the Roll-axis by tilting the servos (moving the right one up and the left one down would create a left roll) and the pitch-axis by a elevator. Best regards
I love when the devs get out and fly instead of just pontificating on the bench. I really appreciate your efforts Pawel. Thanks for sharing your adventures. Happy flying amigo. 🍻
My pleasure! Happy flying!
Awesome flying, Pawel! 😃
Looking forward to the FPV flight!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
looking forward to the INAV 7 version
Thank you for this video. I hope you post a detailed iNav setup procedure on the Manta as Ardupilot is not much fun to use and learn. It is so general with so many parameters and idiosyncrasies that I find it almost Impossible to use.
Thanks Pavel for this helpful and nice Vid!
I´m looking forward to see it runnin`on Inav!
Happy Flyin` Dude!
You and me both! Happy flying!
The transition is carried out without problem, if you respect the following conditions : if there is wind you must face the wind, you must have a minimum altitude (20 m is good) and above all have a certain speed , otherwise you run the risk of dropping out. For flight modes, Ardupilot is at least as rich as INAV, you just have to look at the documentation a little. On the other hand, fortunately there are videos on the internet about the Manta, the manual is very succinct!
Looking forward to Inav 7.1 on the Manta, have tried to understand Missionplanner for the Fimi Manta, but it is quite overwelming when you are more familiair with Inav. Are you able to share the setings for the Manta running om 7.1?
Hey, could you test manta in more challenging situations than cruising around? Like a bit of acro: loops, rolls etc.
Do you have the iNav diff for this FC yet? I know Shota has one (obviously) and he helped setup Giz - but I haven't done VTOL still on iNav and have a Manta handy so really want to try it out.
Almost all of the US Maine's V22 Ospreys that crash due to pilot error are in the transition mode. I suspect they transition with too little air speed which I think should be prevented in the FBW software of the craft. Maybe when I'm finally satisfied with my Optical Flow performance I might look into the VTOL setup. That last flight was magical.
Hi Pawel, Great video and review of the Manta VTOL. Thanks for the information on this VTOL.
My pleasure! Happy flying!
With inav for a smooth transition you need a 2 step transition. 1 is Drone. 2 is Drone with 25percent props foward. 3 is Drone with 50percent props foward and stabilized yaw off and 4 is plane mode Drone off
Thats not 2, that is 4.
@@skelethornbro haha it's 2 transition modes between Drone and plane
@@craigcupit1917 ahhh.. got it. Sorry
Bravo. THENKS. go Ahead.
Very interested to see this running inav. I have been trying for several months on and off. The rear motor cuts before the front servos have transitioned to forward flight which causes a flip. Terrible ossilation in transition mode also. The only way i have managed to get this working in some fashion with inav is to take off vertical, get moving forward, kill throttle, full transition to forward flight and then Increase throttle again. Im sure there are ways to do this is programming but beyond my skills. Look forward to the futire developments. Keep up the good work 👍
It is about the same I had with the Jumper Xiake. VTOL is still quite a hit-or-miss business it seems.
Ardupilot does the transition differently depending on Q_mode and regular mode you are switching to. For exampe if you are switching to manual or Q_ACRO the transition is immediately completed.
Ardupilot has lovkouts for taking off and automatically landing in plane modes that you can enable. This is why you couldn't arm in plane modes.
Q assist was probably enabled.... That turns it into multicopter under a certain speed to protect from stalls
Are you planning to go back over your setting up of modes, switches etc??
Just got mine. Waiting for no wind to maiden
Hello sir , i want to ask . is that right that inav for vtol only for Servo ? can inav used for 4+1 Vtol ? thanks
Transitions at 50% throttle， 10+ mt above ground for the transitions.
Did some one successful tried VTOL Quad + Pusher on INAV?
Hight and osd is our friend....
BTW, waiting to see INAV 7.1 on that :)
Oh no Pawel on Ardupilot what has the world come to lol
Things happen from time to time :) Happy flying!
More like the much simpler tailsitter concept. Much less weight an complexity just fpf tilt to be solved or a second camera for hovering .......
Inav yes please
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The best comments! Happy flying!
Hello FPV University,
Is it possible to setup a VTOL like Tom Stanton in Inav?
If you have not seen the video: In Vertical mode it should act like a normal Bicopter, but in forward flight its Yaw-axis should be controlled by differential thrust, the Roll-axis by tilting the servos (moving the right one up and the left one down would create a left roll) and the pitch-axis by a elevator.
Best regards
Yes, you have 2 separate mixer profiles. There is no bicopter afaik but you can custom mix it yourself. I did so with tailsitter wing on INAV 7.1