This Car Travels Farther Than You Push It

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  • @Alleroc
    @Alleroc 9 місяців тому +3409

    As someone who works with 44awg wire all the time, a trick we use to make soldering them easier is to just tie a knot where you want the solder to go, flame it to burn away the enamel, solder. Works well enough and saves a lot of headache.

    • @Allen-R
      @Allen-R 9 місяців тому +35

      ohh

    • @eccomi21
      @eccomi21 9 місяців тому +155

      putting a knot in that thing sounds harder than just soldering it, but ill keep that in mind

    • @wp77978
      @wp77978 9 місяців тому +7

      Flame it with just a lighter or something more aggressive like a blowtorch?

    • @thecatofnineswords
      @thecatofnineswords 9 місяців тому +75

      @@wp77978A match flame will easily burn away the insulation. It doesn't need to be high temperature.

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf 9 місяців тому +39

      @@wp77978 Even with just a lighter you need to be careful to not instantly melt away the copper :D

  • @TheSpacecraftX
    @TheSpacecraftX 9 місяців тому +13590

    Finally! The external combustion engine has arrived!

    • @vcprado
      @vcprado 9 місяців тому +125

      good one

    • @mikoajp.5890
      @mikoajp.5890 9 місяців тому +482

      steam locomotives were external combustion ;)

    • @john_doe668
      @john_doe668 9 місяців тому +350

      @@mikoajp.5890 then why was it an enclosed area where the fire was HUH??? Sounds like an internal combustion…
      Since some of you guys dont have more than a 5th grade reading level, i need to specify this is a joke.

    • @mikoajp.5890
      @mikoajp.5890 9 місяців тому +194

      @@john_doe668it's still external to source of work, that is to cylinders powered by steam

    • @john_doe668
      @john_doe668 9 місяців тому

      @@mikoajp.5890 woosh

  • @NoobOfLore
    @NoobOfLore 8 місяців тому +2513

    There is something incredibly funny about your durdling little car at the end that manages to be sopping wet, made of cheap plastic, and on fire, all at the same time.

    • @Pooopers
      @Pooopers 7 місяців тому +13

      also his ozempic face is funy

    • @dazley8021
      @dazley8021 7 місяців тому +34

      The more elements are involved, the better!

    • @00Unstable
      @00Unstable 6 місяців тому +12

      @@dazley8021 just replace the tries with mud and it will be 40% faster trust me this works

    • @DarkDrai
      @DarkDrai 6 місяців тому +22

      I read this comment and had no idea what to expect, and then suddenly it was exactly as you described.

    • @immortaldiscoveries3038
      @immortaldiscoveries3038 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@00Unstable lovely comments my people. I usually cool down the sopping wet on fire cheap plastic tiny mobile to freezing point so it maintains even more energy. Usually, I add a solar panel on top to keep it going over night. But what really gets it going is when I put a fly on top, wow does he really stir it good, it keeps going in a perfect circle every time.

  • @NicholasRehm
    @NicholasRehm 9 місяців тому +2192

    100% guarantee the discussion on work applied via the push or through the ramp will be a regular question on physics exams now. You even had me scratching my head until you broke out the force arrows, awesome demo!

    • @joelspangler
      @joelspangler 9 місяців тому +36

      Quit commenting on other videos. You need to continue making unimpressive pieces of foam fly.

    • @lookawilduser
      @lookawilduser 9 місяців тому +51

      @@joelspangler Not nice :(

    • @joelspangler
      @joelspangler 9 місяців тому +89

      @@lookawilduser I was trying to reference Nick's video "Taming the Tail-Sitter: Hover to Forward Flight Explained". This video is one of my favorite youtube videos, and I've watched it at least 15 times. At the time stamp of 9 minutes and 52 seconds, he refers to the tailsitter project as a "rather unimpressive piece of foam". I'd sure love to see more unimpressive pieces of foam... I wish I could be brave enough to try to build one of my own.

    • @asdfghyter
      @asdfghyter 9 місяців тому +11

      @@joelspangler it’s still not nice to tell someone else what to do or not on their free time

    • @lookawilduser
      @lookawilduser 9 місяців тому +13

      @@joelspangler mb

  • @mmmm768
    @mmmm768 9 місяців тому +9382

    Your car is 100% efficient, it's just also ever so slightly heating up your room.

    • @mushroomcraft
      @mushroomcraft 9 місяців тому +457

      @TeodoraTacderenfake

    • @jklmnpqrst
      @jklmnpqrst 9 місяців тому +474

      That is not how efficiency is calculated, heat is unwanted. By your logic everything is 100% efficient.

    • @mushroomcraft
      @mushroomcraft 9 місяців тому +1377

      @@jklmnpqrstIt's clearly a joke

    • @Sharpless2
      @Sharpless2 9 місяців тому +816

      @@jklmnpqrst By everyone elses logic, you missed the joke.

    • @chadoftoons
      @chadoftoons 9 місяців тому +138

      @@jklmnpqrstWhat are you gonna do? Stop me from wanting heat? Im about to increase entropy here im the real villain and you cant stop it!

  • @GL-GildedLining
    @GL-GildedLining 8 місяців тому +657

    This video is such a great example of how great it is to live in the 3D printed prototyping era.

    • @zlobzor
      @zlobzor 5 місяців тому +14

      3D prints have been used for prototyping for a very long time.
      The only difference is that it's now cheap enough for the general population to use it.

    • @wombatgirl997
      @wombatgirl997 5 місяців тому +6

      It's super cool. Back when I was in grade school my dad and I would spend lots of weekends out in his shop making random stuff. It would take us a whole weekend on the milling machine and lathe to make something like this out of scrap metal. The skill set is a lot different, but 3D printing sure seems more convenient for random projects.

  • @wheelie98
    @wheelie98 9 місяців тому +1235

    50 years ago, for a high school science project, I cobbled together a toy car with an electric motor connected to the wheels and driven as a generator, to demonstrate electric braking into a resistive load. With switch open, my toy car went fast down a ramp. With switch closed, the car went slow down the ramp. I give Tom an A++ for an excellent project!

    • @ReplicateReality
      @ReplicateReality 9 місяців тому +12

      Cool

    • @krishkumar7999
      @krishkumar7999 9 місяців тому +8

      I have an extreme urge on what to reply here but that would just be (probably) like begging

    • @romanjustroman7445
      @romanjustroman7445 8 місяців тому +4

      That makes sense. If you short circuit the two wires of a DC motor the rotor becomes harder to spin, you can even use it to test if two parts of a circuit are isolated from one another or not

    • @threynolds2
      @threynolds2 8 місяців тому +2

      The locomotives you see pulling trains use this to slow down without using the air brakes. There Is a large electrical resistance grid on the roof for what the railroad industry calls "dynamic braking".

    • @akun10years10
      @akun10years10 8 місяців тому +3

      You re both tom and the jury?

  • @glennlane6599
    @glennlane6599 9 місяців тому +791

    As a retired Engineer, I've always really liked your videos. This one is very interesting. Thank you.

    • @bauerm12
      @bauerm12 9 місяців тому +10

      Iam going to be an engineer soon and I like the videos as well 👆

    • @olivierduivestein6541
      @olivierduivestein6541 9 місяців тому

      Cool! Enjoyed it too

    • @robertschnobert9090
      @robertschnobert9090 9 місяців тому +1

      Will you be an engineer soon, or a retired engineer? Big difference haha 🌈 ​@@bauerm12

    • @TotalDec
      @TotalDec 9 місяців тому

      Almost jaw-dropping.

    • @kyererezijeremiah6054
      @kyererezijeremiah6054 5 місяців тому

      Engineers never retire just like scientists

  • @SaucePan_McGee
    @SaucePan_McGee 7 місяців тому +187

    i love these vids that aren’t over edited and have annoying music. just perfect

  • @SuperMadmadman
    @SuperMadmadman 9 місяців тому +272

    That generator trike is strikingly beautiful AND incredibly fascinating... Bravo mate!

  • @rjsc
    @rjsc 9 місяців тому +250

    You should keep the capacitor in the peltier module powered car. The motor draws power in short bursts when a magnet passes the reed switch. And so when the motor is not drawing current the thermoelectric generator is still converting heat into electric current and charging the capacitor. Otherwise, when the reed switch is open, the thermoelectric generator is unable to convert the energy because the current has nowhere to flow.

    • @SqueakyNeb
      @SqueakyNeb 9 місяців тому +15

      I was thinking that too. I don't know if there's any capacitance in the Peltier pad but if there isn't, I would think a capacitor would help.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 9 місяців тому +10

      @@SqueakyNeb There definitely will be some parasitic capacitance in the TEC but it will be very small compared to the electrolytic capacitor.

    • @PromptedHawk
      @PromptedHawk 9 місяців тому +7

      I have little experience with electronics/electrics and no experience with Peltier stuff, so I'm probably talking out of my ass here and feel free to correct me if I am, but I think this might not matter too much?
      The pad generates voltage via temperature differential between the sides, but if you're not drawing any current, surely it doesn't transfer the heat as easily as when current is being drawn, right? If so, when the switch is closed the pad generates a higher voltage due to the higher temperature difference, and you get practically the same effect because the temperature differential is acting as a capacitor anyway, isn't it?
      The way I'm thinking about it is best described as an electric version of a Stirling engine where you intermittently stop the flywheel (between coil pulses) which lets the heat build up which then makes it spin faster.
      At higher speeds where the air rushing by and cooling the pad is more of an issue I can see the sense in adding a capacitor, but again, assuming the stuff I said is accurate, a capacitor would just be another component for energy loss in the system.
      If I am wrong please do correct me, I'd love to learn more about this stuff.

    • @lauriebrooking2429
      @lauriebrooking2429 9 місяців тому +9

      ​@@PromptedHawk Ahh I really want to know the answer to this now. I think theoretically you're all correct. However, my suspicion is that the heat capacitance of the TEC won't be able to respond very quickly compared with the frequency of the motor. Therefore an electrical capacitor will be more efficient at harnessing the energy between pulses and would provide a measurable improvement.

    • @sliceofbread2611
      @sliceofbread2611 9 місяців тому

      would it be useful to place another peltier plate upside down on the first one, and power it when the reed switch is open, in order to keep the ice a bit cooler for longer?

  • @MarkFonts
    @MarkFonts 9 місяців тому +27

    I’m sure the shot at 5:33 was a labor of love to get right, the motion track/stabilization resolve is pretty great and it almost looked like you had a camera dolly/on tracks. the graphics pointing to things and being able to see how the pieces moved in concert was so nice. great job!

    • @Axodus
      @Axodus 7 місяців тому +1

      Looks like he used the AI track feature in Davinci Resolve (or something akin to it)

    • @MarkFonts
      @MarkFonts 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Axodus i see the perspective shifting now, like he walked and handheld it, i thought he had a cineslider..

    • @Axodus
      @Axodus 7 місяців тому +1

      @@MarkFonts It's gotten pretty good at faking professional camera rigs on the fly, it's pretty great tech for lone editors and it works in seconds.

  • @bilalhijazeen1501
    @bilalhijazeen1501 9 місяців тому +602

    How it evolved from nothing into absolute silly invention just because is so amazing. Love it

  • @makermandan
    @makermandan 9 місяців тому +98

    This is a really elegant and unique way to demonstrate conservation of energy, work, and power. Thanks for sharing.

  • @GinoBrand5
    @GinoBrand5 6 місяців тому +39

    Very cool,. I created almost this exact concept 20years ago In middle school. Didn't have 3D printers then, so they were just concept sketches, nor did I believe I was the only person toying with such ideas. Awesome to see it really work!

    • @themetabaron8722
      @themetabaron8722 4 місяці тому

      Its just like a hybrid electric car with regenerative braking, nothing unusual.

  • @mbunds
    @mbunds 9 місяців тому +112

    That was an excellent macro shot of the reed switch in operation!
    Seeing the tiny contacts closing/opening as a magnetic field passes is difficult to see without magnification.

    • @Michael_Archer78
      @Michael_Archer78 9 місяців тому +1

      I work in a manufacturing facility and our Reed switches are covered in plastic and sealed, so this is the first time I had seen how they actually work instead of just knowing it wasn't working, so replace it.... Now I'm confused as to how the heck they break. Maybe bent back and forth through enough cycles until it broke? Or stuck fused together for some reason? Wondering if I just smack one hard against my leg if it will start working again? Probably go through 2-5 a week across all machines

  • @phlanxsmurf
    @phlanxsmurf 9 місяців тому +252

    That might be the silliest thing you have made on your channel, which says a lot. Awesome video.

  • @tallakbertin
    @tallakbertin 9 місяців тому +37

    Someone should make a scooter with this built in to it. It would not require charging in the usual sense, and it would give a form of exercise to the user whilst still being a viable form of transportation.

    • @Marshbouy
      @Marshbouy 5 місяців тому +13

      regenerative braking is already a thing in scooters, this is basically that

    • @themetabaron8722
      @themetabaron8722 4 місяці тому +4

      bro its just a hybrid electric system storing energy, like when you go downhill and it recharges the battery nothing new

  • @ETG168
    @ETG168 9 місяців тому +72

    If you add a supercapacitor to the output of the peltier, it might be able to run the motor with a lower temp differential. The motor uses current in pulses, so during the off times the capacitor would charge to allow for higher peak current when the coils are engaged

    • @PeterMilanovski
      @PeterMilanovski 9 місяців тому +9

      Exactly what I saw with the Peltier device experiment.... While the motor draws current, the Peltier device will have only so much energy stored within itself in between the motor pulses... A capacitor definitely makes sense in this application....
      Two Peltier devices in series should provide a higher voltage which sent to a capacitor and fed to the motor via a Stepdown DC to DC converter to control the motor speed, should be able to achieve longer run times....

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 9 місяців тому +4

      @@PeterMilanovski A linear regulator would be too inefficient, I think. Maybe a custom switch-mode power supply, with the frequency tuned to the frequency of the motor pulses at your desired speed. At that point you could probably even remove the reed switch, because what you've made is essentially a BLDC motor.

    • @PeterMilanovski
      @PeterMilanovski 9 місяців тому

      @@tissuepaper9962 exactly.... Linear regulators are good at what they do but the goal here is efficiency so a switching low dropout regulator is what's needed...
      I idea is you to remove as much load from the generator so by going with a high voltage low current generator, you are removing some of the load from it and then use a DC to DC Stepdown converter to do the heavy lifting to provide the low voltage high current that the drive motor needs...

  • @SamBarker
    @SamBarker 9 місяців тому +300

    Glad to see the peltier car final go! I never realized how far away I was!

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 4 місяці тому +3

    The little car at the end starts doing a Tokyo Drift because of the slick track it allows the rear wheels to so slide out. It's hilarious to see such a weakly powered vehicle actually drifting. Awesome video! Cheers!

  • @Deja117
    @Deja117 9 місяців тому +19

    This actually had so much good information in it to help get a grasp on the basics of generating electricity, and the losses that occur when doing so. It was under 15 minutes too!
    Much love from Scotland. Can't wait to see where you take this idea next.

  • @RONALDEPAUL
    @RONALDEPAUL 9 місяців тому +194

    every toy car maker should be taking notes - the right implication of this could make self propelled toy cars exponentially more fun

    • @KaavjeSahe
      @KaavjeSahe 9 місяців тому +28

      What notes, this technology is in practice since 1960s. It is used in toy cars for children, when they pull it back, the capacitor pushes the car forwards more than the actual pull.

    • @TlalocTemporal
      @TlalocTemporal 9 місяців тому

      ​@@KaavjeSahe-- Are those electrical capacitors, or mechanical springs with bi-directional gearing?

    • @CosmicFlux
      @CosmicFlux 9 місяців тому +12

      ​@@KaavjeSahe I didn't know those wind-up cars used capacitors. I figured it was mechanical.

    • @KaavjeSahe
      @KaavjeSahe 9 місяців тому +9

      ​@@CosmicFlux Some use Flaps, while some use capitcitors. Expensive ones use capacitors and the cheap ones use flaps.
      As a single capitor cost 13 Euros, cheap toy cars usually have a flap to move them forward.

    • @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683
      @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 9 місяців тому

      @@KaavjeSahe a single capacitor cost like 42 cents, actually it's probably much lower if you buy from the right place (as a factory would)

  • @poni-vw7uc
    @poni-vw7uc 8 місяців тому +2

    6:33
    "travels a fair way along the distance that I moved it"
    "now obviously not the whole distance because it's not 100% efficient"
    Putting distance in a car, I love it!

    • @jonc4403
      @jonc4403 23 дні тому

      I do too! It's why I always try to make sure my car battery isn't at full charge at the top of a mountain.

  • @connorcubed
    @connorcubed 9 місяців тому +30

    I love this video! I am a mechanical engineering student right now, and this video takes some concepts I have learned in dynamics, circuits, and thermo and combines them into two fun projects!

  • @TheMrTape
    @TheMrTape 9 місяців тому +9

    8:18 The generator-car put up a higher resistance/load to you pushing it, demanding more energy than the other car did, by charging the capacitor. When you let them go, you got 2 x the same momentum, but one of them has extra energy stored in the capacitor already, whatever charged up while you accelerated them before letting them roll.

  • @maninalift
    @maninalift 14 днів тому +2

    6:20 the distance that the car moves is not a measure of energy. There are a lot of ways to break down the energy involved in the journey but I think the clearest is to describe it in terms of force × distance . I think it's pretty clear that the car has a much lower force when it is running then when it is pushed, so I think the efficiency is probably actually quite low. It's absolutely awesome and interesting project though. - someone shout at me if I've got this wrong

  • @magicalpencil
    @magicalpencil 9 місяців тому +474

    That blue trike looks really steampunk, I want a hand cranked version to ride around on

    • @erwinzer0
      @erwinzer0 9 місяців тому +8

      I really like the design

    • @intergraphenic
      @intergraphenic 9 місяців тому +25

      A hand cranked motortricycle? Surely legs would work be-
      Oh. That's just a trike.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 9 місяців тому +8

      It looks like a Big Wheel or a Green Machine like kids had in the 70s and 80s.

  • @AndreaFinetti69
    @AndreaFinetti69 9 місяців тому +10

    What a great video! You've condensed three years of high school pyhysics in one gorgeous and elegant model, my sincere congratulations for your ingenuity!

  • @jamesmahoney5436
    @jamesmahoney5436 5 місяців тому +1

    There was true, hidden genius in this video. So many engineering and physics concepts are at play in each of these designs- making this an incredible overview of "how to creatively make something spin". excellent stuff!

  • @edog6504
    @edog6504 9 місяців тому +45

    I've always been fascinated by this concept, not perpetual motion, but very efficient use of energy, so *almost perpetual*. Very cool to see it in action.

    • @NandR
      @NandR 9 місяців тому +4

      Check out lasersaber's videos. He has motors that run on milliwatts of energy. Powered by tritium lights, ionic atmospheric energy, ambient temperature change...

    • @markellii3093
      @markellii3093 9 місяців тому

      The electric trike Tony from Agingwheels made a video on might be up your valley then. It is just insanely efficient. Just don't confuse it for the one with pedals he also made a video on...

    • @NandR
      @NandR 9 місяців тому

      @@markellii3093 Robert not Tony.

    • @baptistedelplanque8859
      @baptistedelplanque8859 9 місяців тому +4

      It's not very efficient, it's just using very little energy.

  • @melkiorwiseman5234
    @melkiorwiseman5234 9 місяців тому +168

    This is just a more complicated version of the old "friction drive" toy cars which used a mechanical flywheel to store some of the energy imparted by the initial push to keep the toy car running for some time after you let it go.

    • @denpries
      @denpries 9 місяців тому +9

      I instantly hear their sound now

    • @HarmonRAB-hp4nk
      @HarmonRAB-hp4nk 8 місяців тому +1

      rubber band around axle car... pull balll on ground and let go lol wooosh...... lol

    • @spyseefan975
      @spyseefan975 6 місяців тому +5

      believe it or not there were also very old candle powered toy vehicles, i believe it was a boat iirc.

    • @pinkfluffyant6335
      @pinkfluffyant6335 6 місяців тому

      Pop pop boats! ​@@spyseefan975

    • @justforplaylists
      @justforplaylists 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@spyseefan975 Pop-pop boats. If you watch Steve Mould maybe you saw it on his channel.

  • @SuperBartet
    @SuperBartet 9 місяців тому +2

    I think I could get this to work in a full size car. What you need is a bungy cord and grappling hook on the front of the car. When you want to start, hook it around a lamp post, get in and release the handbrake, off you go. You just need to remember to park by a lamp post when you stop.

  • @Crackalacking_Z
    @Crackalacking_Z 9 місяців тому +73

    That fire&ice trike was really too funny XD

    • @retromodernart4426
      @retromodernart4426 9 місяців тому +1

      All it needed was some leather and chrome, LOL

  • @StructuralJournals
    @StructuralJournals 9 місяців тому +18

    Bro that was awesome. Such simple concepts, so well explained and visual.. I am astonished. Awesome job!

  • @BikingVikingHH
    @BikingVikingHH 9 місяців тому +1

    8:30 the one with the motor is requiring more force to push it which isn’t noticeable since one stick is used to push them both. That’s where the extra energy comes from.

  • @lis6502
    @lis6502 9 місяців тому +5

    0:58 new Tom's video and he still shows his passion to the science and the distance to himself. What a pleasure to watch

  • @iknowredstone1234
    @iknowredstone1234 9 місяців тому +11

    the reason the generator car can go further than the flywheel car in the ruler test is, that to push it you need more force which gives it more energy to begin with. and it can store more energy (in the flywheel, the magnetic field and the electric field in the capacitor)

  • @Novasux
    @Novasux 9 місяців тому +1

    You have a real talent for explaining complicated topics. I know nothing about electrical engineering but I learned so much from this video.

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 9 місяців тому +35

    That intro is fun because I truly think figuring out "ALMOST" perpetual energy devices is where everyone should be focused on & forget about "perpetual machines" completely. It's all about perspective. Especially now with all our advancements in tech. If creative enough it is possible for engineering to create very efficient devices. You could make a great kid's toy company with this creation. Could go onto shark tank lol and get it funded to make kids toy cars based off of this. It's pretty cool

    • @Puddlesoak
      @Puddlesoak 9 місяців тому +7

      randos when any youtuber makes anything: "turn it into a whole company bro"

    • @buenom674sk7
      @buenom674sk7 9 місяців тому +1

      it is already what everyone is doing in the energy industry

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 9 місяців тому

      And needs copper. Less then ideal, especially if you can substitute it for more traditional design that can work with only few springs and everything else is plastic.

  • @TGears314
    @TGears314 9 місяців тому +4

    0:30 so as far as I’m aware, there are magnetos in hydroelectric dams that use an air cushion to do exactly this. It’s a spinning disk that helps keep current relatively constant and it has high mass to keep high inertia during outages and to resist power draw lowering amperage.

  • @SuperTauta
    @SuperTauta 3 місяці тому +1

    For anyone wondering, those systems which add inertia by other means than adding pure mass are called inerters. Some mechanical ones were used in Formula1 cars' suspensions up to quite recently

  • @kajatoth9151
    @kajatoth9151 9 місяців тому +7

    I wonder if adding a capacitor to the peltier car would make a difference. Like storing the power from the peltier when the reed switch isn't engaged and releasing it when it is

  • @oliverer3
    @oliverer3 9 місяців тому +4

    It's like an electric stirling engine car! Something about it is just very charming, I also have to say to say that I love the visual design language of this project. I love me some function informed aesthetics!

  • @erikmichels2695
    @erikmichels2695 8 місяців тому +2

    The final result seems like a contraption from a studio gibly film, amazeing!

  • @bcdirttastesbetter
    @bcdirttastesbetter 9 місяців тому +11

    Perfect video to help understand regenerative braking for the Australian GP this weekend.

  • @MakerFarmNL
    @MakerFarmNL 9 місяців тому +4

    What a beautiful design that is!! It is not "just" a capacitor driven car with a self build motor (as if that is something everyone can build)... but is has good looks as well... You are quit exceptional!

  • @RanAn
    @RanAn 4 місяці тому +2

    What a great and thought provoking video. I applaud your dedication to tinkering and testing ideas in order to learn new concepts.

  • @em9594
    @em9594 9 місяців тому +6

    There are versions of lasersaber's motor that have been running for years, so a really nice demo of what you can do with electricity and kinetic energy

  • @DJWHITE_
    @DJWHITE_ 9 місяців тому +73

    Upscale it and ride it?

    • @KorokHaze93
      @KorokHaze93 7 місяців тому +9

      Omg the magnets you'd need...

    • @DJWHITE_
      @DJWHITE_ 7 місяців тому +3

      @@KorokHaze93 Wheeeeeeeeee!

    • @Gringorican
      @Gringorican 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@KorokHaze93 Dangerously big 😬.... Or just use thousands of smaller ones 🤔

    • @luciangamer9882
      @luciangamer9882 27 днів тому +1

      Might not work

    • @ebaiderrick
      @ebaiderrick 12 днів тому +1

      You'll end up magnetic every car in the street

  • @pankakelovers1
    @pankakelovers1 3 місяці тому

    I simply love your progression of your learned thought and how the 3D printed parts that facilitate those thoughts into working models.

  • @NandR
    @NandR 9 місяців тому +6

    LASERSABER! Man is the master of efficiency. Extracting energy from the air and ambient temperature changes.

  • @samuel97ful
    @samuel97ful 9 місяців тому +5

    The lenght you measure was a perfect visual explanation of effiency

  • @chippygr01
    @chippygr01 9 місяців тому +1

    This is brilliant because this could be compared to that kit that converts all electrical components and circuits into a system of cogs and chains that you can link together! Because this is the same as the wind up cars but instead of storing mechanical energy using a mechanical advantage, you’re storing electrical energy with that mechanical(/electrical) advantage! So cool

  • @D4Devil_
    @D4Devil_ 9 місяців тому +8

    I love your desings and how you present them on videos, cool work my dude.

  • @PrincessAngelaXOXO
    @PrincessAngelaXOXO 9 місяців тому +49

    build this on your bicycle, can charge when cycling and it keeps going if you want to take a little brake.

    • @Allexz
      @Allexz 9 місяців тому +9

      I doubt it will keep going if he brakes though! ;)

    • @pumbi69
      @pumbi69 9 місяців тому +8

      I think he already made a capacitor bike

    • @mikoaj2323
      @mikoaj2323 9 місяців тому +12

      As pointed in the video, it would go for a bit, while you are resting, but this energy doesn't come from nowhere. You would feel more resistance when cycling.
      In the end you would be more tired to drive the same distance, as some energy would be lost as heat.
      Also I believe he did "supercapacitor bike"

    • @Gribbo9999
      @Gribbo9999 9 місяців тому +1

      Break

    • @NikhillRao27
      @NikhillRao27 9 місяців тому +2

      If it's less efficient than a flywheel then it won't really work since he already showed that flywheel bikes are impractical

  • @GraemeWight-wx3xz
    @GraemeWight-wx3xz 7 місяців тому +1

    4:15 would not more magnet pairings all round the circumference of the big wheel and another 3 sets of windings help ? I know more is generally better but not always.

  • @MusikCassette
    @MusikCassette 9 місяців тому +61

    3:55 you should really build a dedicated coil winder.

    • @ADBBuild
      @ADBBuild 9 місяців тому +5

      I was thinking you could use the bobbin winder feature on most sewing machines.

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@@ADBBuildtotally, but all electric sewing machines I've messed with were too nasty and rude to wind a delicate wire like that with confidence i think

    • @pacman10182
      @pacman10182 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@crackedemerald4930 stand alone hand winders are still kicking around

    • @MusikCassette
      @MusikCassette 9 місяців тому

      @@ADBBuild you mind wonna actually count the windings.

  • @electrodacus
    @electrodacus 9 місяців тому +14

    This is also a good analogy for the faster than wind (wind only powered cart). In that case the energy is stored as pressure differential on each side of the propeller instead of energy being stored in a capacitor.

    • @andrewsnow7386
      @andrewsnow7386 9 місяців тому

      "the energy is stored as pressure differential on each side of the propeller" -- Would you describe a piston-engine driven airplane the same way?
      For a piston-engine driven airplane, I would say the energy is stored in the fuel.The small pressure difference from one side of the propeller to the other stores a trivial amount of energy. Shut the engine off and pressure difference (AKA thrust) disappears very quickly.
      The same is true for a downwind-faster-than-the-wind cart. The propeller requires a continuous input of power to produce thrust. This power comes from the wheels that are in contact with the ground.

    • @electrodacus
      @electrodacus 9 місяців тому

      @@andrewsnow7386 Yes the amount of stored energy is very small. See my last video where two propellers of about 0.1m^2 swept area moving air at 3.2m/s have less than 2 Joules of stored energy. I demonstrated in my video exactly why that sort of vehicle can exceed wind speed and why that is just temporary proportional with the amount of stored energy.

    • @ruffusgoodman4137
      @ruffusgoodman4137 9 місяців тому

      @@andrewsnow7386Also, check out autorotation aircrafts. Some experimental models employ the same principle. They still get engines, others are part glider part autorotation, but the principle electrodacus said is better employed on those.

    • @andrewsnow7386
      @andrewsnow7386 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@electrodacus I watched your video twice, and it's not clear to me what you are trying to demonstrate. You end with the conclusion: "It's clearly not powered by wind power when above wind speed." We need to parse this before I can say if we agree.
      Are you saying that the difference in motion between your treadmill and the air is not powering your cart? Or are you saying that your experiment has no wind (that is the air is static in the room) and since the wind speed is zero, it can't be powering anything?
      I'm fairly sure you are claiming the first, in which case your own experiment proves you wrong. Consider 2:20 in the video. Using the reference frame of the belt on the treadmill, the cart is moving forward at 5.33 m/s when you are restraining it with a force of Fnet using your hand. Since the cart can travel at 5.33 m/s and still have a positive Fnet, it must have a speed greater than 5.33 m/s where Fnet = 0. The cart must have an equilibrium speed faster than the wind for Fnet to equal zero. If so, then the cart could be powered by the "wind" indefinitely at speed greater than the wind.

    • @electrodacus
      @electrodacus 9 місяців тому

      @@andrewsnow7386 Yes air speed in the room is zero thus there is no wind power. Same way as there is no wind power available to a vehicle traveling direct down wind faster than wind.
      The cart is powered by the treadmill while restricted by hand (is just a treadmill powered fan not a vehicle in that case). When hand is removed the cart accelerates forward powered by the stored pressure differential for about 8 seconds. After those 8 seconds the vehicle will start to decelerate (negative acceleration) as it is powered by the treadmill and if the treadmill was not limited in length the vehicle speed will decrease all the way below wind speed where the steady state will be.
      So steady state is below wind speed and not above wind speed. The video demonstrate that by showing that after 8 seconds when cart acceleration the cart is not at steady state but acceleration becomes negative and so steady state of the setup will be when vehicle is below wind speed.
      I also show why the cart accelerate against the treadmill direction (stored energy in the form of pressure differential or put in a different way air potential kinetic energy) and I'm able to precisely predict that cart will only accelerate to the right for 8 seconds using that less than 2 Joule of stored energy at the start of the experiment.
      So Fnet will be zero twice. First time after 8 seconds from the time cart is released and second time after probably 10 to 12 seconds but treadmill was only long enough to allow another 5 seconds of travel. Still is clear that Fnet was positive starting to decrease from the moment cart was released from hand got to zero after 8 seconds and then became negative for the next 5 seconds before experiment ends.
      With 5.33m/s the cart got to around half the treadmill before starting to decelerate while at 5.66m/s the cart will have had more initial stored energy and so it will have started to decelerate only when it was almost at the end of the treadmill. If treadmill speed was below 5m/s then cart will not have enough stored energy to accelerate at all to the right and thus it will directly start to move to the left (in the direction that treadmill moves).

  • @gnosgrajab2468
    @gnosgrajab2468 8 місяців тому +1

    This would make an amazing bicycle. When peddling it can build up charge and when one gets tired or needs an extra boost for hills, the charger can act like a motor.

  • @brettdeccy9897
    @brettdeccy9897 9 місяців тому +8

    Really amazing designs and valuable explanations, thanks!

  • @prodjament
    @prodjament 9 місяців тому +5

    Wow. That candle powered generator is really a smart idea but what about using a torch to heat it up? I know this would melt probally but if there was a heat resistant one that can survive that big heat it would be really cool to see a torch powered car. You could cooldown the heatsink with liquid nitrogen or something like that

    • @ADBBuild
      @ADBBuild 9 місяців тому +1

      I didn't think a more intense flame would gain you much. The issue is absorbing all the energy from the flame. A heatsink on the bottom would probably be better, or some kind of nozzle that would spread the fire/heat out more.

    • @prodjament
      @prodjament 9 місяців тому +1

      when he added more knots to the candle it produced more electricity. so maybe im not an scientist but this for me means that more heat = more electricity.

    • @joey_f4ke238
      @joey_f4ke238 9 місяців тому +1

      @@prodjament Lots of heat escape around it in form of hot air, so a heatsink on the hot side would have made an improvement, but the brute force approach is a tried and true method

    • @NandR
      @NandR 9 місяців тому +1

      The main issue is that peltiers are not very efficient. Adding the ice is like adding a battery. It is stored energy in the form of solid water. Adding heat helps but you have to dissipate heat from the cold side just as much to maintain a steady flow of energy. A larger heat sink on the cold side and getting the bike moving faster would allow more airflow to dissipate the heat. There is a heat limit to these devices, where the internal solder starts to break down.

    • @ZeroXSEED
      @ZeroXSEED 9 місяців тому +1

      @@prodjament It's more complicated than that. It's the difference between upper and lower plate. The more difference the better. But too much heat on the bottom might also heat the upper plate and ruin the balance.

  • @VinayPanicker
    @VinayPanicker 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video! Interesting point to note is that using the Lagrange for electrical systems the capacitor can be equivalently thought of as a spring. Thus, an equivalent system would actually be one where a spring is coupled with the free-wheel , edit: so long as (k/2) = (1/2C).

  • @c42cly
    @c42cly 9 місяців тому +5

    Very cool.would be interesting to use the mechanical power to work a clock mechanism.
    Maybe solar power to store up energy during the day to run through the night

  • @AstroBlakeD
    @AstroBlakeD 6 місяців тому +6

    Imagine purposely leaving your car out in the summer sun just to get an extra few miles on your ev.

  • @onionface5835
    @onionface5835 5 місяців тому +1

    When using the ruler to push both cars you are adding friction to the back wheels during the push, since the front wheel is still free to spin the capacitor car has an advantage as it is able to gain energy during that time.

  • @shadeeradicate
    @shadeeradicate 9 місяців тому +3

    This design is pretty cool to see. Thanks for the physics explanations too btw!

  • @ITZZJellePelle
    @ITZZJellePelle 9 місяців тому +6

    build this on your bicycle, can charge when cycling and it keeps going if you want to take a little brake

    • @ADBBuild
      @ADBBuild 9 місяців тому +2

      The problem is it would be harder to pedal than a normal bike, meaning you get tired faster. You would perhaps for less time, but actually use more energy since some is lost converting it to and from electricity.

    • @ITZZJellePelle
      @ITZZJellePelle 9 місяців тому

      the same issue accurs with the bikes that have a generator and engine instead of a chain or belt, you lose alot of energy but there is alot of advantages such as no oily bits and whould be better for services that want to perform little to no maintenance@@ADBBuild

  • @kristiangunderson
    @kristiangunderson 3 місяці тому

    I used to work on remote gas wells, and many of them use what's called a thermo electric generator. Basically just a large thermopile like what you're using here, with either a propane or natural gas burner to heat one side, and a huge heatsink on the cool side. The bigger ones I worked on would put out about 120W, depending on how they were running. I had to fairly regularly check and adjust them, and it was sometimes an all day job to get one adjusted to make it's rated power.

  • @malcolmliang
    @malcolmliang 6 місяців тому +3

    Ice and fire power hybrid LMAO

  • @vipergx
    @vipergx 5 місяців тому +7

    1000 dislikes are from petrol companies 😄

  • @glucid4222
    @glucid4222 5 місяців тому

    It's a given that perpetual motion is not possible in our universe due to the entropy induced energy loss, but watching your tinkering with various ways of capturing, converting and using several manifestations of energy concurrently, you do make it look like you're awfully close to achieving perpetual motion....and this where science can be cleverly manipulated to trick our minds into believing the impossible. Well done.

  • @nodthenbow
    @nodthenbow 9 місяців тому +5

    I'd be really disappointed if any car wasn't able to travel farther than it is pushed. I generally aim for my car to have a mechanical efficiency above 0% lol

  • @phazonxl
    @phazonxl 9 місяців тому +4

    This Car Travels Further Than you Push It.

  • @AnitaSV
    @AnitaSV 3 місяці тому

    6:35 it travels less distance not because of

  • @nitroseeks
    @nitroseeks 9 місяців тому

    The little setup at 9:30 is brilliant! I would have love to have that during my early physics classes

  • @suncitybooksgeraldton335
    @suncitybooksgeraldton335 7 місяців тому

    A smaller front wheel would have done the same as the gearing an o ring works well as a tire. The pelter unit from a fridge will run the 12 volt fan motor when unpluged and for the higher power has many units connected together you can get the complete fridge from a garage sale for $5 box in the ice to stop the water running down to the hot side.

  • @humanbean3
    @humanbean3 6 місяців тому

    i had this exact idea for this magnet motor 20 something years ago when i was 12-13 years old. im glad someone actually made it. later i just assumed there was something i didnt know that would make it inefficient or just not work.

  • @leonardkjellberg729
    @leonardkjellberg729 8 місяців тому

    Tom I am really glad you dared to try the method of using peltier modules. Most people are probably not aware that they can also be used like solar panels. With a lot of fine tuning of the coil size and capacitors etc. a much more efficient device could be achieved.

  • @Jared-n7s
    @Jared-n7s 26 днів тому

    Hi! I make coils out of 42 AWG wire as part of my job. It’s easier and leads to less breakage to just set the spool on the floor between your feet and have your winder on the table in front of you. Hope this saves you some trouble in future projects!

  • @Wannabearborist
    @Wannabearborist 8 місяців тому

    Another example of this (9:21) is a gasoline generator, you hear the rpm’s go up when it is putting out power, the rpm’s go up so there is more available torque what is needed to generate electricity

  • @scienceofart9121
    @scienceofart9121 8 місяців тому +2

    This was an amazing well structured video. Thanks a lot Tom, I just subscribed.

  • @PixscleArt
    @PixscleArt 8 місяців тому

    This is super cool. It's so obvious when you explain why it happens, but to see the generator car actually travel slower down the ramp because it's charging a capacitor is super interesting.

  • @tgerm
    @tgerm 5 місяців тому

    my grandfather had a few patents based around magnetic engines/generators. one is a type of engine, and the other is to help assist wind generated power. the patents are public as of 2019. I cant make sense of them, but this reminded me of my late grandfather.

  • @CharleyCycoNerd
    @CharleyCycoNerd 5 місяців тому

    Tom Stanton, you bring a whole new meaning to the term "Candlepower"! Very fascinating experiment.

  • @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683
    @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 9 місяців тому

    8:57 okay so, my first thought is that the car is actually braking slightly as it charges the capacitor, causing it to be harder to push, because this energy is not lost (as it is stored in the capacitor) it actually gains more energy from the push than the freewheel car, I think that it is just getting more energy out of the push, it would be kind of like if you had a dense heavy wheel and a light wheel side by side and you pushed them on a low friction surface, the heavy wheel and the light wheel would be accelerated to the same velocity, but the heavy wheel would have more energy

  • @jamcof
    @jamcof 7 місяців тому

    8:26 I guess that your capacitor isn't really fully discharged. I think it has around 0.6V already from last push? So it has more energy stored, giving some more advantage? What do you think guys?

  • @telejeff
    @telejeff 9 місяців тому

    cool concept and video. I’m glad you included the end explanation to “debunk” the seeming paradox of the push test. But I’m surprised you didn’t catch and correct your earlier comment about it not going as far as you pushed it because it’s “not 100% efficient.” That would have been a good learning moment to explain that a 100% efficient car would go infinitely far, completely independent of how far you pushed. And with your not perfect efficiency. the distance traveled has more to do with how hard you push over the distance, not just the distance you push. Anyway, thanks for the upload and thanks for mot making a perpetual motion device.

  • @jfb112697
    @jfb112697 3 місяці тому

    the carbon buildup on the bottom of the pad is definitely insulating it a decent amount from the candle heat, maybe add some o2 circulation somehow or use fully mixed butane if that doesnt burn the thing completely and i think youd get some pretty decent speeds ngl. fun stuff.

  • @ltsky311
    @ltsky311 3 місяці тому

    Next time you want to solder fine wires or tin wires, you can use a thimble like device that you melt solder into and you just dip the wires in and pull out after being fluxed, viola, soldered wires super easy.

  • @williamwightman8409
    @williamwightman8409 7 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant. I love the synergy of the smart new scientists and engineers with the new toys available such as Lithium Ion batteries, 3D printing, controller boards, Python. Leaves us old guys in the dust, as it should be....Don't forget that the resistance of the freewheel to motion is non-linear to the rotational speed of the freewheel. These devices would be better tested in a vacuum, a bit harder.

  • @WarChallenger
    @WarChallenger 6 місяців тому

    Keep this one evolving, man! You're getting closer and closer to the way a nuclear submarine works with the heat sink and candle setup. And to be fair, an RTG-powered vehicle sounds awesome.

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones 6 місяців тому

    Phenomenal: a workshop master!
    The most fun I've seen in one place since I worked for prototype maker Maxwell Moffat Associates, lo, these many years ago..

  • @VictorF0326
    @VictorF0326 6 місяців тому +1

    Eyooo Lasersaber! One of the first channels I subscribed nearly 12 years ago!!

  • @magneplanar777
    @magneplanar777 Місяць тому

    Happy to see Tom experimenting this concept , and making it working, because using coils each side of a magnet in series , is the most advanced way to negate lens law and create new concepts of alternate energy. Bravo ! A concept that was used by Nicola Tesla

  • @al_in_philly5832
    @al_in_philly5832 6 місяців тому +1

    Since the freewheel car moves faster since it's not encumbered with the electro-mechanical drag of the generator car, the mechanical drag on the wheels is higher, requiring more force to move the same distance; or, in this case the same amount of force moves the faster car a shorter distance.

  • @Thermodynamicool
    @Thermodynamicool 2 місяці тому

    Earned my sub with this lil gem of a demonstration. Thanks!

  • @jjsupah
    @jjsupah 6 місяців тому

    This is really cool. I think your designs and executions are getting way better.

  • @huntcringedown2721
    @huntcringedown2721 9 місяців тому

    You could use it, as well as the heated air with the right design, to candle holders with moving elements. It may have some small models moving around, or a carillon playing without any batteries, just because you put a candle in it

  • @Magneticitist
    @Magneticitist 9 місяців тому

    Man that's pretty cool. Assuming it's just a relatively arbitrary reed switch alignment, gearing and mesh, magnet strength etc just to get it going, that's some impressive efficiency as-is. It's even got 'room' for lighter parts and more coils.